tv Beyond 100 Days BBC News September 12, 2018 7:00pm-8:01pm BST
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you're watching beyond 100 days. hurricane florence shifts path as us coastal cities prepare for a massive storm that could lingerfor days. traffic is backed up as more than a million people under mandatory evacuation orders try to get out before it's too late. out at sea, florence is now tossing up waves 25 metres high — a terrifying indication of how powerful this storm is. the surf is already up here in north carolina as the storm of a lifetime heads towards us. people flee the coastline. they're just civilians who happened to be there. mr putin denies the two men accused of trying to murder sergei skripal worked for him. but the british government isn't buying it. also on the programme... the european commission president sets out an expansive vision of the future in which he dreams of the eu one day becoming a major sovereign power. and a day in the life of...
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actor mark whalberg lays out his extraordinary daily routine, which starts with a full work out before 5am. fair to say it's a little different to my schedule. i'm katty kay in washington and christian fraser is in london. time is fast running out for millions of people on the us atlantic coast to finalise their preparations ahead of hurricane florence. they need to use these final hours to get the sandbags in, board windows, stock up on water and petrol and — if they're in the path of a direct hit — evacuate now. out at sea, we're told florence is tossing up monster waves — some 25 metres high. its path has shifted and it could now linger on the coast, dumping huge amounts of rain. america is used to hurricanes but this one is being taken very seriously. good morning. it is wednesday, september 12th, 2018. welcome to cbs this morning. hurricane florence is being called the storm of a lifetime as millions evactuate the carolina coastline.
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today is your last day to get out of the areas that have been placed under evacuation orders. the storm surge could be between nine and 13 feet and that is higher than some homes. this storm is big and it is vicious. people in north carolina are used to storms but this one is different. we're telling people they are putting their lives at risk. they have not seen anything like what is coming at us in 25, 30 years — maybe ever. it is tremendously big and tremendously wet. we are talking about almost like a washing machine, for 48—hours for some folks. rain could go up to 40 inches, storm surge up to 13 feet. we're talking about words. the national hurricane centre. uninhabitable and no power for weeks on end. we want people out of those states because we just cannot get to them if something happens. let's get the latest from our correspondent, laura trevelyan, who's in wilmington, north carolina. laura, that storm will hit exactly
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where you are standing in about 2k to 48—hour is time. what will change between now and then? -- 48 hours. we are expecting life threatening storm surge, high winds and we are expecting titanic amounts of flooding. weak that have 35, even 40 inches of rainfall. just imagine! behind me the surf is already up. in the four or five hours we have been on this beach it has been increasing in strength. the hurricane is 35 miles south—east of where i am standing. people are taking no chances. i just spoke to a standing. people are taking no chances. ijust spoke to a couple, charlotte and bill. charlotte was here as a child in 1954 when hurricane hazel hit this beach and
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brought devastation. they are heading out of town for the very few people are staying behind for that there is a mandatory evacuation orderfor 8pm tonight there is a mandatory evacuation order for 8pm tonight and a turning off the power at 6pm to make sure people get out. i am looking at the beach behind you. it looks pretty it... but the sun is shining and there is no evidence, apart from the bigger waves, of the storm yet. from what you cant help our people heeding evacuation order and getting out in the numbers they need to? they definitely are here. there have been so many warnings. the police have been going up and down the beachfront homes that are just in front of me with the loud—hailer, reminding people they need to go. the couple i talked to who would just fleeing, they said their neighbour is staying because he has ridden out every single storm in living memory. everyone else is going. i have spoken to swimmers on the beach you are enjoying the surf.
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they are all heading out of town foot there will be titanic amount of rain and winds over 100 marcin hour. even though it is possible that the storm will not make land, it will not make any difference. it would be parallel to the coast and 48 hours we could have this incredible rainfall and strong winds. we can see frenzy at the shopping centres as people stuck up with food and supplies. if you're in a mandatory evacuation zone and you take a decision not to go, what risks are you running? are you on your own? is that how it works? if the police have told you to get out and you stayed put, you cannot expect a first responder to come and rescue you ina first responder to come and rescue you in a life—threatening situation. the risk you are taking is you are deciding you will ride out and then ask for help when the storm has passed. it is a very tricky
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situation. 0fficials passed. it is a very tricky situation. officials are really telling people straight this will be mike tyson punch to the carolina coastline. take no chances and four. this is a big one. you would be very brave to stay behind. thank you very much indeed. joe allbaugh is the former director of fema in the bush administration. we can speak to him now on the phone from oklahoma. thank you very much for being with us. thank you very much for being with us. we talk about the winds and flop you talk about hurricanes because they are so extraordinary. 150 miles an hour in this case. we sometimes forget about the storm surge. in your experience, is the surge more deadly? it is, a combination of the winds and the storm surge as well as flooding in low—lying areas. power lines go down because the high winds will do it be very difficult for
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first responders to try to reach back for the individuals who are stubborn and refused to heed the warning. your reporter is absolutely right. 0nce warning. your reporter is absolutely right. once you have been warned you cannot expect people to put lives on the line to come in and extract here. i am very proud of the governor of north carolina and the governor of north carolina and the governor of north carolina and the governor of south carolina. their emergency management teams have a world of experience. all the assets they need right now. the director of they need right now. the director of the men these days, you can have up better person. if you have not left yet, please leave today. it is not too late. please leave today because tomorrow will be too late.|j too late. please leave today because tomorrow will be too late. i was trying to work out why people would not heed the advice when there are
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so many weather reports and people conceived the hurricane approaching. i read today in an american newspaper that sometimes the weather forecasts confuse people. we see that cohn and the hurricane in the cone and two thirds of the time it stays in the cone for that is the cone doesn't cover my town or my pa rt cone doesn't cover my town or my part of the coast, i do not need to evacuate. either side it is equally devastating. sometimes more devastating. sometimes more devastating. then you have the water surge. i think the water is warm enough that this storm will go offshore. i am enough that this storm will go offshore. iam not enough that this storm will go offshore. i am not a meteorologist. i think we seem to have a problem with the line to the former director of fema. 0ne with the line to the former director of fema. one thing we did a very
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clearly, from what he said that if you have not got out now, do so, there is still time today that there will not be tomorrow but do not risk putting lives of other first responders at risk because that is what you're doing if you stay in place. we should just talk incidentally about this other typhoon in the pacific. we are focusing only on florence today. there a typhoon on the same scale as florence. sustained wind speeds of around 125, 130 miles an hour. it is used of manila and will bring huge storm surges, heavy rain, flash flooding and wind damage. spare a thought for people who will get into the path of the typhoon. i have spoken to a correspondent and said they'd get this quite a lot. they are right in the path of it. four or five times every year they get battered by the typhoons which blow
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through. the maps look eerily similar, both of those, when you see the big storms approaching. same thing happening in the philippines as the united states. first, russia said it didn't know the two men in the cctv footage. now vladimir putin says they do and he insists they are not criminals. britain accuses the pair of being russian intelligence officers, sent to the uk — to salisbury — to murder the former spy, sergei skripal. mr putin, speaking against the backdrop of russia's biggest ever war games, said he hopes the two men will now come forward and comment for themselves. and, given the russian president's power, it's fair enough to expect they'll do just that. britain doesn't seem convinced by mr putin's denials. theresa may's spokesman said all they've got from moscow are lies. captured on camera, the two men accused of a nerve agent attack on the streets of salisbury. it is a week since british police released these pictures and named the suspects as russian intelligence agents —
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a week russia has spent denying that any of this is evidence. now vladimir putin has addressed the claims directly. on stage at an economic forum, he announced the men were no agents but civilians. translation: we know who they are. we found them. i hope they will appear and explain everything. this would be best for everyone. there is nothing special here, nothing criminal, i assure you. the president's tone matches this. other officials have been busy mocking the british case as absurd — a soap opera — even claiming cctv footage was faked. british police say the names of the suspects are likely to be aliases, so it is possible, whoever russia has now found, it is not the men who travelled to salisbury at all. with these surprise comments, vladimir putin has raised the prospect that the suspects in the salisbury poisoning could appear in public perhaps very soon.
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but, all along, moscow has dismissed the allegations coming from london as nonsense. so, whatever happens now, it seems unlikely to take the british investigation any further. this former kgb officer told me russia could be behind the salisbury attack though the culprits never expected to be discovered. so, behind their public statements, he thinks russian officials are worried. translation: all of the elite understands the mess that russia is now in. the leadership sets the tone. they say the british made it all up, that is all rubbish. that is just laddish bravado. everyone knows that the consequences will be serious. the poisoning of sergei skripal and his daughter has already led to diplomatic expulsions and sanctions. now, all eyes are on moscow for a first glimpse of the key suspects but, whoever appears, the chances of them facing criminal charges in britain are as slim as ever. sarah rainsford, bbc news, moscow.
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iam quite i am quite looking forward to hearing about this weekend trip from russia to salisbury and how they explain it away. bit of tourism. interesting to see if they name them and give them the proper names which i assume the manager robert police or de nos. we shall see. —— the metropolitan police. one woman who has spent her fair share of time sitting across the table from russia is wendy sherman. she served as undersecretary of state during the 0bama administration and was a key negotiator of the iran nuclear deal. she is out with a new book — not for the faint of heart — and she joins us to discuss the current state of us foreign policy. let's start with russia. what more could western countries be doing in the light of the skripal attack against russia which would be politically acceptable? we all need to be united in sanctioning russia
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for this kind of behaviour which has affected europe in ways has affected the united states as well. we should also think strategically. in the introduction you mentioned the negotiations with iran. the president is about to reimpose sanctions to send the price of oil sky high. that started today. the dollar is cheap and russian oil companies dealing in us dollars for oil trade. that puts russia in a stronger economic position, which is not in our national—security interests. i do not want to harm russian people. they have a right to live decent lives but we're not thinking strategically about what we need to do to weaken vladimir putin's control in this country. that is a good lesson in the intended consequences of foreign policy. 0ne calculation the british government needs to make when it assesses how toughly to respond to
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russia is what impact that could have four example on the cost of housing in london. they are caught in this faustian pact. we do not wa nt to in this faustian pact. we do not want to put too much pressure on russia because that might affect house prices if they come out of london. you need the importance of courage was a backhand zappacosta you have to pay a price. i learned this lesson early in my life. —— courage and you have to pay a price. everything comes at a price. i hope those in great britain will think ha rd those in great britain will think hard about what is important and ta ke hard about what is important and take a longer view about the immediate cost of housing.“ take a longer view about the immediate cost of housing. if the price of oil goes up, that will benefit the iranians as well. given the amount of time you spent negotiating the nuclear deal, give me your thoughts. do think it is possible to keep it alive without the united states in it? it will be very tough to do. i am tremendously
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admiring of european efforts to try to create a facility is so small and medium enterprises can invest in iran. the sanctions which will come on at the beginning of november our economic and tough measures saying if you deal with the central bank of iran you cannot deal with than american bank. that makes it hard for any company to do business in iran. you are right that the price of oil going up of iran if the sanctions, which also include an oil embargo by the united states, and put pressure on other countries not to deal in oil orface put pressure on other countries not to deal in oil or face secondary economic sanctions by the united states, would put pressure back on europe in terms of whether it will embargo iranians oil and the last time we did this, when we wanted to get them to the bigger sheeting table, they lost a significant piece of their economy because of a decline in oil sales. —— the negotiating table. it strikes me,
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when i look at your book and read what you have written the sometimes we overlook the blood sweat and tea rs we overlook the blood sweat and tears that goes into one of these negotiations and the personal sacrifices that you make. you particularly. at one point in this negotiation are calling for your head in iran. indeed. it is blood, sweat and tears. what people do not fully understand is they may know about president 0bama and maybe meet, they do not know the hundreds of people in the us government who have worked on this over the years let alone other nations like russia and china who are engaged in this effort. it is an incredible slob and ta kes a effort. it is an incredible slob and takes a lot of preparation and detail. —— slog. there was a point when the iranians got very angry at me and my family had to listen to death to wendy sherman on the
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streets of tehran. that is not the most comfortable place to be. we got past it. i had e—mails that came to me and came to my daughter's gmail account saying that my husband was having an affair with someone in europe well i was negotiating. it was not true but it was unnerving. i have some ideas can be going back to the beginning of your story berrahee might have put the e—mails into the hopper but, nonetheless you have to get used to a lot of disquieting things and really persist in trying to reach the objective that you and your colleagues have set out. thank your colleagues have set out. thank you forjoining us in the studio. the point that ambassador sherman was making about the kind of personal attacks which can be levied on people and in particular women in this situation. 0thers on people and in particular women in this situation. others were involved. we have had a slew of female secretaries of state in the
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united states. for women in these positions there still can be an added burden and you can still be susceptible to the kind of online, and now online, abuse that wendy sherman was describing that perhaps some men are not put under the pressure of. not easy, those jobs. theresa may is resisting pressure to chuck the chequers plan. today the leading brexiteers in her party presented their approach which they believe would answer the irish question. 0wen patterson, who we will hear from later in the programme admits there is "absolutely nothing new" in the proposal. but they believe that with existing technology and systems already in place they could avoid that hard border with ireland. in brussels, the european commission president was laying out his plan in his final state of the union address. he wants the eu to be a bigger global player, with the euro rivalling the dollar. and there was just a bit of support for the pm's chequer‘s plan although he was careful not to say too much. 0ur brussels reporter adam fleming is in strasbourg and has been talking with the commission president.
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do you want the eu to be a superpower? i don't know what that really means. i want the eu to become a major player in the global scene. superpower? i don't like that expression. we have to be super but not a superpower. that was adam talking tojean—claude juncker. when it comes to what he was setting out today, never mind the brexiteers. there will be in number of people on the remaining side who do not want to belong to a sovereign europe. —— remain. jean—claude juncker, when he sovereign europe. —— remain. jean—claudejuncker, when he does a speech like this, he comes up with more ways to be more europe. he was talking about making the eu a bigger player on the world stage with one
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suggestion was, when it comes to foreign policy, member states give up foreign policy, member states give up their vetoes in some areas of foreign policy. he says that would make it easier for the foreign policy. he says that would make it easierfor the eu to foreign policy. he says that would make it easier for the eu to speak with one voice. his officials say it would make it harderfor say china to hijack eu foreign policy by calling upjust to hijack eu foreign policy by calling up just one, to hijack eu foreign policy by calling upjust one, friendly eu member state. 0thers calling upjust one, friendly eu member state. others say, foreign policy is something that should be done by individual countries and nation states rather than the eu, so why isn't this a bit of a power grab? that is why put it to him about was this him trying to turn the eu into a superpower? he talks about sovereignty and the unity of the european union on the same day that sanctions had been taken against viktor 0rban of hungary and we face the prospect of wrecks it. how much unity is there really? —— brexit. great timing. you get meps
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making history by voting to discipline a member state on the same day as jean—claude juncker discipline a member state on the same day asjean—claudejuncker is trying to set out a vision of eu harmony. you could not make it up. this has been a fascinating day with jean—claude juncker trying to make the case we are sticking together, in the modern world who can only have national sovereignty and protect europeans by all working together for the 24 hours before he had victor 0rban, the controversial prime minister of hungary, telling this lot to bat out of his international affairs. you can see the drama being played out in one of the drama being played out in one of the political groupings here. that is how the system works. the biggest one is the centre—right, the european people's party. victor 0rban is in that. people have been unhappy with him for a while. the reason the article seven vote was triggered was because his allies in
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that political group turn back on him. they have had enough of him and lost their patience with him. their votes but the article seven process three. what happens at european parliament elections next year? does victor aubin side with people in that group or what about his mate, the far right interior minister of italy. people are asking these questions. waller tile times at the moment. —— volatile times. the hollywood actor, mark wahlberg, has posted his daily routine on instagram. he has revealed to fans that on a typical day he wakes at 2:30am every morning and manages to pack in a workout, golf, even a visit to the cyro chamber before most of us have drunk our morning coffee. and that's not even mentioning the meetings, lunch, a second workout and family time, before heading to bed at the very respectable hour of 7:30pm.
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i wonder what he has a breakfast? three techie birders —— turkey burgers and sweet potato. it's inspirational, this. it makes you want to strive to do better. so, i thought, firstjob, to compare and contrast walberg and fraser's typical day. and, yes, there is room for improvement on my side. he isa he is a little older than me, he is 47. iam he is a little older than me, he is 47. i am quite impressed he gets up at 2:30am on what he packs in. i compare to looked at mine. i notice that my daughter gets in the way of my work—out. he does not have the school run in the middle of it. if you scroll down... how long does it ta ke to you scroll down... how long does it take to get the uniform on? with the shoes invariably under the sofa."
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look at my afternoon. another person is there quite regularly, pretty demanding. equally demanding. and then i finally get home for that there is my work—out at 10:50pm at night, which i think you will agree iam night, which i think you will agree i am looking better on. in my defence that when i don't e—mail you, i get notes from use saying you never e—mail or call. you never send flowers either. —— you saying you cannot fault mark warburg. he looks good on it. this is beyond 100 days from the bbc. coming up for viewers on the bbc news channel and bbc world news... facebook has been in the spotlight recently for all the wrong reasons. can the social media giant recover from the bad publicity? and ten years after the lehman brothers crash, we'll talk about how the economy has recovered. that's still to come. in contrast to the weather across
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the other side of the atlantic, the weather close to home is looking very quiet for the next few days. ill get cold tonight in areas a bit like this where the cloud was late to break. temperatures did not rise very much. this and of cloud responsible for rain and drizzle, slowly moving southwards and stop the next band of rain is coming in from the atlantic. a narrowing band of rain. to the south we will see the rain breaking in the south east. the lowest temperatures tonight will be across the midlands and the east of england. in role areas we could be down to three, four degrees. —— in rural areas. be down to three, four degrees. —— in ruralareas. 0n be down to three, four degrees. —— in rural areas. on thursday bit more detail. into scotland we have the band of rain moving down into the
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central belt into northern ireland. you can see how little rain that is. to the south, for england and wales, are generally dry and sunny start. some clout left over in the extreme south—east to push away. the weather front we have tends to move down into the far north of england. it may well linger in northern ireland and southern scotland. it will push back northwards later in the day. further south temperatures are likely to be higher than today, a bit more sunshine around. we have a weather front across northern areas coming back in again as the next weather system arrives. that will bring probably bit more rain around during the day on friday across scotland, northern ireland, into northern england. eventually sunshine and showers followed into the north west. a few more showers in wales and the south west of
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england. east anglia and the south—east probably drive. temperatures not far off 20 degrees or so. “— temperatures not far off 20 degrees or so. —— probably temperatures not far off 20 degrees orso. —— probably dry. into temperatures not far off 20 degrees or so. —— probably dry. into the weekend the wind will pick up. for most of the weekend it'll be dry, sunny and warm. some rain starting to get its way into england and wales on sunday. this is beyond 100 days, with me katty kay in washington. christian fraser is in london. our top stories: out at sea florence is now tossing up waves 25 meters high, which gives us a terrifying indication of how powerful this storm is. the eurosceptics put down their counter—proposal to theresa may's brexit plan. the irish government says it is a reheat of ideas already rejected. coming up in the next half hour: as facebook tries to get over the scandals and the public scrutiny, some people are asking how can mark zuckerberg fix his creation before it breaks down democracy?
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ten years ago, it was the lehman brothers crash. since then the us economy has recovered, but what happened to some of those worst hit by the crisis? it's often noted that if facebook were a country, it would have the largest population on earth. which begs the simple question, what does that make mark zuckerberg? clearly the company's ceo has enormous power and that power is now being tested as the social media giant faces the biggest crisis since it's founding just 14 years ago. today facebook is being asked serious questions about the meddling in western elections and how he intends to protect the data his company gathers on all of us. these are big issues of free speech, liberty, democracy. mr zuckerberg is undoubtedly a tech genius but does the 34—year—old have the capacity, indeed the energy, to tackle these enormous problems? evan 0snos has addressed just this
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in an article for the new yorker, aptly named "can mark zuckerberg fix facebook, before it breaks democracy?" evan joins us now. first of all, how critical is this moment for facebook? this is the ha rd est moment for facebook? this is the hardest thing they have been through in the started in 2004 and they realise that this is not the kind of ordinary business crisis that you get to. this is an existential risk to the future of the company. he had a huge ambition to grow this company. i guess the question is can you now take that same ambition to fixing the problems in their company? does he have the will to do that? he has the power to do it, does he have the will? in some ways, it isa does he have the will? in some ways, it is a unique predicament he is in because many of the lessons he learned over 14 years, the things he used to survive, to succeed, like looking past criticisms from
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sceptics, pushing the boundaries of privacy and focusing above all on growth, those things today are gradually going to work against him. he has to be willing to put some of those learnings aside and address these really hard questions about politics, democracy and the health of social media in our lives. politics, democracy and the health of social media in our liveslj politics, democracy and the health of social media in our lives. i was slightly frightened, i have to say, by the conclusion you came to in this article. it is a brilliant article, but use a the caricature of mark zuckerberg is one of an automaton with little regard for the human dimensions of his work. between speech and truth, he chose the. between speed and energy neutral speed and between scale and safety, he chose scale. he will have to embrace, won't he, at some point the fact that he is notjust to embrace, won't he, at some point the fact that he is not just a disrupter, he is now a protector of the peace? right. that was the conclusion i reached after spending time with him over the last few months. i realise that in some ways he is ina months. i realise that in some ways he is in a position he never wanted to be in. he is now a gatekeeper, a
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person who is, i have to say it, pa rt person who is, i have to say it, part of the establishment. he is the kind of person who has to protect a civil, reasonable discussion online without venturing too far into censoring free speech. these are ha rd censoring free speech. these are hard questions and frankly they are not the questions early computer programmer sets out to adjudicate in his life, but they are now the ones that are now squarely in his lap. what was it like spending time with him? years actually a more normal person, frankly, then i think the public imagines. there was then usually —— there was the movie, but he is not the same guy as he was 20. in some ways, he is more supreme than you might expect for a company thatis than you might expect for a company that is in a crisis that you might expect. —— more supreme. he seems to be on the right track. he doesn't need to make the fundamental changes he is wanted to. in the conversations you have with him in his home and office, you spoke to
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his home and office, you spoke to his people, people who worked with him, did you come away with a clear sense of what marks of a bird —— mark zuckerberg fears most for the future of his company, his baby? he said not long ago that he wants to build a company that his daughters can be proud of, and frankly it's rare moment that he says something which has an emotional contact that a rare moment that he says something which has an emotional contact that it caught people's attention. for a long time, he said the thing he feared most company as far and fast is heated now he has a very different problem which is that if he continues to grow with that kind of reckless ambition, add a certain point, it will undermine what he has achieved and so he is trying to figure out how to become, in a sense, almost like a statesman rather than the buccaneering capitalist that he was. thank you very much forjoining us. my pleasure. christian, something i have wondered about for a moment with facebook as it faces the prospect of regulation and anti—trust and being broken up is whether facebook‘s problem is not my
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12—year—old daughter because when i say to her, what are you doing social media? say to her, what are you doing social media ? have say to her, what are you doing social media? have you got friends on facebook? she looks at me as if i ama on facebook? she looks at me as if i am a dinosaurand on facebook? she looks at me as if i am a dinosaur and laughs. the idea for her that anyone would be on facebook is still antiquated that i wonder that is not really a company's problem, that they are losing a new generation of young social media users who are on other social media users who are on other social media users who are on other social media networks. interesting, you think she has moved past it? yes, none of her friends are on it. but you said that he has 2 billion users. everyone is on it. it would be the biggest company on the world, so will all be older people are using it, but the young people are using it, but the young people are using it, but the young people are not. it's been ten years since the start of the worst financial crisis in living memory, one which saw millions of americans who'd borrowed easy mortgages lose their homes. the us economy has recovered since then, but some of those worst hit in that crash have not. rajini vaidya nathan went to revisit a family the bbc met during the crisis, to see how they are faring now. september 2008.
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the us stock market is sent into a panic after the collapse of the investment bank lehman brothers. these images of staff leaving with boxes are a reminder of the day confidence in wall street turns to crisis. main street america was hit hard. across the country, millions lost their homes and unemployment skyrocketed and here in the country's smallest state, rhode island, some of the biggest impact was felt with more than one in ten people left out of work. so, what has changed a decade on? at the height of the recession, we met holly heymann, a mother of five, who had lost her business, her home and her marriage. it's not easy as a mom to not know if you are going to be able to feed your kids. coming home and hearing them say, "i'm hungry." today, she has a good job and is renting a home. i don't live in fear any more. holly has bounced back through her hard work, but she's
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still angry the banks were bailed out by the government while she struggled on her own. the government didn't step in and say, hey, we see that you need some help with your mortgage, here's some help. no, it went to the corporations, the banks, to bail them out, but where was the bailout for the people that were affected? i mean, it literally took me up until this year to get out of debt. for the generation who grew up with the crisis, the economic future looked uncertain. i wasjust so sad and angry and ijust didn't want to be around any more. holly's daughter is now 24 and a mother to a five—year—old. yeah, she's so cute. i love her so much. with unemployment rates falling, she's found work but lives with her dad. having your own home remains a distant dream for her and many other millennials. trying to make your paycheque stretch and, you know, "0h, mommy, i want that
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lollipop," i can't give it to you because mommy's got a budget and i have to make this cheque go as long as i can. i'm sorry, kid, i can't give you that lollipop. it's tough. it was the worst financial crisis in living memory. although the data shows the recovery‘s strong, a decade on, the ripples from that crisis are still being felt far and wide. and you know that family well because you met them just after the crash in 2010. yes, i was the person who went and did that report with holly and her family and it's so good to see her now looking better. she looks more relaxed, healthier, she was so stressed when i went to see her. she had been a successful businesswoman with several businesses and she lost everything in the crash. the business, her home. when i met in 2010, she said it was terrifying not knowing if there would be enough
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money to put food on the table for the five children, but her daughter, thatis the five children, but her daughter, that is interesting, the whole thing about the financial crashes that the next generation will be worse off than the current generation that has not happened in america and there you have it. holly is doing 0k, not happened in america and there you have it. holly is doing ok, but her daughter, skylynn, still needs to live with her father and with a cheque to pay cheque. that is not what people think about when they think of the american dream and it isa think of the american dream and it is a direct result of the crash. the ifs says people now aged in their 30s have been worst affected by the resulting recession, which was the deepest to hit the uk since world war ii. the governor of the bank of england, mark carney, said the uk's debt level still caused some concerns. the british households have worked hard, they've paid off a lot of debt over the course of the last decade. that's been tough for them to do. they've put themselves and the system as a whole in a better position but the level of debt is still relatively high, even after that, and there are pockets where there is quite significant debt so what we get concerned about is those areas taking on a lot more debt. lord skidelsky sits as a cross bench
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peer in the house of lords. he's also a well known economist and author of money and government: a challenge to mainstream economics. he is with me in the studio. he has advised both labour and conservative governments after the 12 misses crash. mark twain said history does not repeat itself but it rhymes. do you think we have done enough to prevent another financial crash that we experienced back then? what we did was prevent another great depression. it could have been really bad, back to the 1930s, but the governments of the world did intervene. they had a stimulus and they had learned enough, but i am not sure they have learned enough from the latest 2008 crash. i think there is still much too much debt, i think the banking system has not been sufficiently performed, i do not think they have done enough
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about inequality, all those things make the economic system very fragile. and something, some small thing could start a big run, a cumulative downturn and i do not think we are really taking enough precautions against that. there are several things going on, there is the economics that you apply to the situation and with hindsight you can say whether that is right or wrong, the cameron and 0sborne years, but the cameron and 0sborne years, but the other thing that is going on as they are trying to regulate the banks but it is not the banks in isolation in britain, they are all interconnected. exactly. how do you, asa interconnected. exactly. how do you, as a government, reform the banking sector we knew we have hold of one pa rt sector we knew we have hold of one part of it? you have to do something to break up the global banking system. you have to limit the amount that banks can lend abroad and borrow abroad. i think that's the only way. you haven't got a world banking government system and you
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are not going to get one and therefore banks, to that extent, are going to remain, unless you do something, unregulated. when they are unregulated and can take in each other‘s dirty washing and each other‘s dirty washing and each other‘s assets which turn out to be toxic, you get a collapse in one pa rt toxic, you get a collapse in one part of the banking system sending the whole system crashing down. i do not think we have done enough to stop that. we have to cut some of the financial links which tie together the world bank ‘s. i do not think anyone is thinking about that. plenty of resistance to that. yes, when you look at what happened here in the united states after 2008, there is an argument being made is that the people who were in charge of it, they understood the economics of this but they didn't quite grasp the politics of the situation. while there could have been a much bigger push to help homeowners, like the family we have just seen in rhode island, the politics did not allow for that and
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that and then pushed back growth recovery here in the united states and you could argue that a whole host of problems have come about because of that, but if they had been able to handle the politics better, they could have produced a better, they could have produced a better outcome, quicker growth recovery. i think there is something in that, but i do not think they understood the economic is very well either. i think they thought that pumping a lot of money into the economy would actually produce a much stronger recovery than turned out to be the case. there was some, it is some good, but basically, they bought into the idea that in this downturn you had to have fiscal austerity, you had to... government had to balance the books and, i mean, the monetary stimulus was nearly enough to offset the fiscal tightening, but they, of course, we re tightening, but they, of course, were right. the politics made it very, very difficult. if you have a very, very difficult. if you have a very large downturn, government deficits and government debts rise
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astronomically and then you have an almost irresistible political pressure to cut down on the deficit, on government spending, so they were tough. the real lesson is stop these things from happening before they do. 0nce things from happening before they do. once they have happened, it's actually very difficult, politically and economically, to get a rapid recovery. right. thank you very much indeed for being with us. the irony, of course, is we are in a period of high growth and we have big debt and deficits as well in a very different situation than 2008, but we still have those ballooning deficits. this is beyond 100 days. still to come: how bob woodward's new book on trump's white house is flying off the shelves, selling more than 750,000 copies on its first day of publication. two men have been convicted of involvement in a half a million pound armed robbery at one of scotland's most exclusive hotels.
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a jury today found 42—year—old richard fleming guilty of assault and armed robbery during the raid at a jewellers inside the gleneagles hotel. 30—year—old liam richardson admitted his involvement in the robbery 0ur scotland correspondent lorna gordon brings us back to the heist that shook the quiet golf resort. late morning, june last year and three masked men enter one of scotland's most prestigious hotels. they are armed with a gun, machete and hammers and in the space of little over a minute, smash their way into display cabinets, snatching luxury watches worth £500,000. one of the gleneagles guests said she initially thought she was watching watching a film shoot. but the reality was, this was a brazen, violent heist which had been planned weeks in advance. as the masked men ran from the hotel to their getaway car, one of them brandishing a gun, threatened a member of staff here, saying, "move and you're dead." to another he said, "call the police and i will kill you." the gang then sped down this road at high speed.
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we saw that the car had screeched to a halt. the feeling went from, well, this is all a bit bizarre, to this is a bit sinister. because the two guys who got out were dressed in dark grey/black balaclavas, their faces were covered and then immediately starting spraying the car. all the things which you don't regularly see in rural perthshire. the robbers had been trying to cover their tracks by spraying their car with a bleach—like substance. the police trolled thousands of hours of cctv pictures to place the gang at the scene of the crime. with the dramatic footage showing the robbery unfold, this was a case not of what happened, but whodunnit. as to the watches which were stolen, they have never been recovered. the uk will not pay an agreed 35 to 39 billion euros to brussels
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if it doesn't get a good brexit deal. so says prime minister theresa may who is in the midst of another white knuckle week. an influential group of her own backbenchers met last night to discuss replacing her. and today a group of tory mps have set alternative ideas for the future of the irish border. one suggestion is the continuation of common regulations on agricultural goods between the uk and the eu on the island of ireland. this alternative plan is being sold as a way past the stalemate. this is about unlocking the negotiations. the only way we can do that is by engaging at a practical level, which this paper does in a way which the union has not yet done. the former northern ireland secretary 0wen paterson is among the tories backing the ideas and hejoins us now from westminster. good to see you. i appreciate, and
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you are going to tell me that you are lobbying the prime minister to change direction on chequers, but there is no evidence that number ten is going to do that, so if she does not change from her position, what are you going to do? well, hello. we are you going to do? well, hello. we are going to try and persuade her. we are convinced that checkers is not going to work. we have heard from mr younger today that he does not like it. in the time we have been preparing this paper, we have talked to a lot of customs experts. they are amazed the government is still pursuing it. they say it is a com plete still pursuing it. they say it is a complete nonstarter. so we would like her to change the policy and thatis like her to change the policy and that is why we came forward with the paper today on the border between northern ireland and the republic of ireland which currently appears to be one of the big stumbling blocks. the is a view that it is intractable and the only way the european union can keep the integrity of its single
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market and the customs union is by, quote, having a hard border, which means more infrastructure on the border. which is a complete nonsense, but we have got stuck on this. there is a border now, there is an excise border, a vat border, a tax border, a currency board, very importantly there is a security border and it is all managed with existing technologies and administrative systems and there is no need for extra infrastructure and our paper shows that using existing methods, a controlled border can be maintained once we leave the european union. these are all existing techniques. 0k, all right, so existing techniques. 0k, all right, so they are existing systems and technologies already there although some say that you are putting a lot of faith in the european union allowing you to have access to some of these systems, but we will move past that. cani past that. can ijust... past that. can i just... you're past that. can ijust... you're going to need a
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lot of good faith from the irish side and what we hear from the minister for private affairs that this is a wiki is, in his words, of something that has already been shown to be unusable. something that has already been shown to be unusablelj something that has already been shown to be unusable. i am disappointed that he would say that, but has this is the direction in which the european union and the world trade organisation want to move. all their drive for the future is to have less restriction on borders, more pretesting, pre—checking and more use of electronic technology and all of which exists at the moment. that is the whole drive for borders, that the whole drive for borders, that the border is to be treated like a tax point. it is not an inspection and 80 control point. that is where all borders are going and that is worthy european union's biggs paper is going. we picking up on that and we are showing that these
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technologies and administration systems could be employed and it would mean that the trade that does ta ke would mean that the trade that does take place between northern ireland and the republic would carry on. so, do you want to get rid of the prime minister orjust get rid of her plan? we want her to change the policy and go back to what she said at the lancaster house speech, what she said in the general election where there was a clear commitment that the uk would leave by leaving the single market, by leaving the customs union, by leaving the remit of the european court ofjustice, so we are loyal to the manifesto and thatis we are loyal to the manifesto and that is what the vast majority of our supporters want out in the country. so we would want her to go back... to me, it looks like checkers is a dead duck. with the european union do not like it, if the technicians we are talking to do not like it, it is very unpopular with the conservative party and supporters, let's look at practical solutions and we are genuinely
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trying to be helpful. thank you very much for your thoughts. tests carried out in egypt on the bodies of a british couple who died while on holiday last month suggest that the cause was e coli — a type of bacteria that can be very dangerous. john and susan cooper from burnley were staying in a resort in the egyptian city of hurghada when they fell seriously ill, but their daughter isn't accepting the finding. here's yunus mulla. we have been waiting to hear from the egyptian authorities for a number of days over what they feel caused the deaths ofjohn and susan cooper from burnley and today, we have official confirmation of a medical examination that was carried out following their debts and they say that e. coli was a factor in the deaths of bothjohn and susan. in the case ofjohn cooper, they say it caused acute intestinal dysentery and because of his underlying heart condition, that proved fatal. in the case of his wife, susan, they
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believe the e. coli called an infection and it was linked to gastroenteritis and that led to her death. these findings appear to confirm what thomas cook bound to its independent experts. they told us its independent experts. they told us last week they found high levels of e. coli bacteria at the hotel in hurghada, that at the time, thomas cook said they could not link e. coli to the couple's death. the couple were on holiday with their daughter who has previously spoken to the bbc. she has described these findings by the egyptian authorities as utter rubbish. she does not believe them. she believes the authorities are trying to blame someone. authorities are trying to blame someone. what she wants now is a new postmortem carried out on the bodies of her parents. they were repatriated and flown back to the uk. she is hoping a new postmortem will then establish what she
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believes is the real cause of death. iam i am pleased by that because, full disclosure, susan was my father's cousin and she was a bridesmaid at his wedding so we are glad to have some answers for that because the family have found it very difficult in the last few weeks and so our sympathies to them. 0ur sympathies to them. our thoughts go out to your dad as well. fear may be its title, but bob woodward certainly has nothing to worry about when it comes to actually selling copies of his new book. yes, the title — which details the first year of the trump administration — is the fastest—selling adult book in three years according to barnes and noble, with more than a million hard cover copies printed so far. and it was only published this week! 750,000 copies by the end of the first day. i have officially got a case of author envy. i have got to write a bestseller. the publisher says this is the ninth
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printing... get on with it! the total number of hard copies in print is1.1 the total number of hard copies in print is 1.1 million. it is top of the charts in canada, the uk, germany, 16 countries currently selling the books and i do not have one. do you have one? i have a book, it hasn't sold that many. but that schedule you gamers at the start of the programme comparing yourself to mark wahlberg, where is the right address celebrating that endured a? you need to fit that in! forget the press ups, pick up the pen, quite right. in contrast to the weather across the other side of the atlantic, the weather close to home is looking very quiet for the next few days. it will get cold tonight in areas like this where the cloud was late to break and as a result, temperatures did not rise very much. this band of cloud here has been responsible for rain and drizzle. it is very slowly moving southwards. the next band of cloud is coming in more quickly from
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the atlantic and that will replace the atlantic and that will replace the showers in scotland and northern ireland with some strengthening winds and a narrowing band of rain. to the south of that, we eventually see the cloud breaking in the south—east. clear skies following on, lighter winds, too, south—east. clear skies following on, lighterwinds, too, so south—east. clear skies following on, lighter winds, too, so the lowest temperatures tonight will be across the midlands and eastern england. in rural areas, across the midlands and eastern england. in ruralareas, it across the midlands and eastern england. in rural areas, it could be down to around three or 4 degrees. let's move into thursday morning. pick upa let's move into thursday morning. pick up a bit more detail on the weather for early in the morning. pick up a bit more detail on the weatherfor early in the morning. it is garland, we have that band of rain moving its way down through the central belt into northern ireland. you can see how little rain is on that, shower was beginning to follow into the north west of scotland. bring in and wales, a generally dry and sunny start. maybe some cloud left over in the extreme south—east to push away and we will see cloud bubbling up through the day, but fairweather cloud. that weather front we have tends to move down into the far north of england. it may linger in northern ireland and across southern scotland with a bit
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more rain and drizzle beginning to push back northwards later role in the days of will depress the temperatures here. further south, temperatures here. further south, temperatures likely to be higher than today with a bit more sunshine around. we have is whetherfront which stalled for a while across northern areas and then comes back in again as the next weather system arrives and that is going to bring probably a bit more rain around during the day on friday. across scotland, northern ireland into northern england, eventually sunshine and showers falling into the north—west. we could catch a few more showers for wales and the south—west of england, the midlands, east anglia and the south—east, probably drive. this is where we will see some sunshine and temperatures not far off 20 degrees or so. temperatures not far off 20 degrees or so. as we move into the weekend, we will find the winds will pick up. across the south—east of the uk, for most of the weekend, it will be dry, sunny and warm. bring in the north—west, though, and that will start edging its way into england and wales on saturday. this is bbc news.
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the headlines at eight. leading pro—brexit conservative mps insist they are not planning to oust theresa may — despite meeting to discuss alternatives to the prime minister's chequers proposals — including plans to avoid a hard border on the island of ireland egypt's public prosecutor says e.coli was a factor in the death of a british couple at a hotel in the resort of hurghada russian president vladimir putin describes the two men accused of poisoning sergei and yulia skripal in salisbury as ‘civilians, not criminals‘ translation: we obviously looked at who these people are. we found them, they will appear soon, i hope, and tell you everything themselves.
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