tv The Papers BBC News September 14, 2018 11:30pm-12:00am BST
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first, the headlines. four people have died as storm florence hits the us east coast, knocking out power to 600,000 homes and causing buildings to crumble. there are also warnings of serious destruction in the philippines. more than 4 million people are directly in the path of typhoon mangkhut, which has 160—mile—an—hour winds and torrential rains. donald trump's former campaign chairman, paul manafort, has made a deal to plead guilty to two criminal charges and avoid a second trial. "distressing" and "vivid" footage of the moment pc keith palmer was stabbed outside parliament during last year's westminster attack has been shown at an inquest into the victims‘ deaths. hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be
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bringing us tomorrow. with me are the independent‘s deputy political editor, rob merrick, and the author and broadcaster, natalie haynes. many of tomorrow's front pages are already in. the ft weekend leads on brexit, reporting that labour will vote against theresa may's deal for britain's exit from the eu. comments by a government advisor that parents should turn their phones off at night to set a positive example for their children make the front page of the telegraph. the i weekend leads with a scientific "brea kthrough. " it says british researchers are developing a blood test for identifying those at risk of heart disease and strokes. an effort to rescue payday lender wonga, which collapsed last month, is to be led by the archbishop of canterbury to help the poor, the guardian reports.
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the duchess of cambridge makes the front page of the daily mail. the paper says she is launching a campaign to help disadvantaged children. the express is reporting that dame esther rantzen‘s charity helpline for older people will not recieve further funding. and the times dedicates its whole front page to a new book which claims mi6 believed michael foot had been a paid informant of the soviet union and was prepared to warn the queen of his past when he stood to be prime minister. so, those are the front pages. let's chat to our guests, natalie and rob. we begin with the telegraph. boris says he wants to deck be —— ditch the chequers plan. not the prime minister? i don't believe a word of
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it. an unusual soundbite form. it is not about changing prime minister, he says, it is about chucking chequers. you can imagine how pleased he was with that rhyme. 0stensibly he is suggesting that they want to ditch the planned but not the prime minister, which would bea not the prime minister, which would be a plausible styles if he hadn't been throwing verbal rocks at her for the last... how many months? years? ijust for the last... how many months? years? i just don't for the last... how many months? years? ijust don't buy it. why can't you just take him at his word, natalie? laughter . i know, so many people always say that. of course, it is absolute nonsense. it might as well be dracula saying he doesn't really like blood. it isjust implausible. borisjohnson yearns to like blood. it isjust implausible. boris johnson yearns to be prime minister, he goes to bed thinking about it. i don't want to think about it. i don't want to think about anything else in that sentence. of course he wants to be prime minister. what he might be waking up to is the fact that,
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almost inevitably and politics, the person who wields the knife doesn't wear the crown. you can't be the assess and if you want to be the next leader and it may well be that borisjohnson realises he needs to turn down the volume. —— bv assassin. but i think it is too late, because everybody knows now that his mission is to get rid of theresa may, it is about personal ambition to get to downing street. i think it is probably too late for him. ithink think it is probably too late for him. i think his ambition is too obvious. and he has made a lot of enemies in the tory party. yes, so when it comes to the future leadership election, whenever it comes, under the conservative system remembers get to choose the next leader but they only get to choose from a shortlist of two. that shortlist is decided by the mps, and it is increasingly unlikely that tory mps who really fear the impact of boris and don't really trust him, that they will put him on that shortlist, i think that is most unlikely. how do you think dominic crowther is doing? i think he is a much better communicated than his
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predecessor, david davis. ithink he is more of the details person. i think even david davis' friends would agree he sometimes struggled with the details of the brexit negotiations. dominic raub was a highflying lawyer and he is in top of his brief. in a sense that doesn't really matter. the policy hasn't changed. the uk's problems haven't changed, namely, that the eu has rejected the chequers proposals. they simply will not happen. there will only be a deal if and when britain makes further concessions, and that is not really an option for dominic raub. i think better presentation is the only thing you can say has changed. what do you think? he doesn't present such fa ntastically think? he doesn't present such fantastically negative imagery, does he? that was the problem with david davis in many ways, he was cheerfully turn up to meetings without so much as a notebook and a pencil. the eu had piles of perfectly neat files. itjust looked very amateur. the not he was a mature, the visuals he put out were
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incredibly, well, let's hope for the best. that is not a great look when you are doing international negotiations, oddly enough. i think the high—powered lawyer look is more professional. let's put aside the fa ct professional. let's put aside the fact that boris johnson is professional. let's put aside the fact that borisjohnson is linked to this. do you think theresa may is going to survive brexit?” this. do you think theresa may is going to survive brexit? i think she might have to do for a little while longer because i don't think anybody else is going to want to drink from that profoundly and overtly poisoned chalice. it is not like the bit in snow white where you do not know the apple is poisoned. everybody knows there is no way of getting through this and making everybody happy. you are going to upset and anger an enormous quantity of people, literally whatever you do. so the only smart thing to do if you are a king in waiting or a queen in waiting is to wait for her to be entirely destroyed by that. i realise that sounds heartless, but there it is. and then walk in, don't even sweep the mess, just walk in and say, here i am. i can fix it. and of course that is not that far away. we are leaving the eu
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according to a timetable next year. at the independent we have a campaign fray second referendum, we hope everybody will sign that petition... do you think that'll happen? we think the people the best day. we had one blind brexit, if you like, two years when we voted. i think it is pretty obvious people didn't realise what they were voting for at the time, certainly not the chaos that would result. that is where we are heading again. the only way there will be ideal as if there isa way there will be ideal as if there is a blind brexit, where the prime ministers signed to the necessary details and a withdrawal agreement, but we will have no clue on our future trading relationship with the eu. it is like getting to the end of the gangplank and jumping. the idea that that is what people voted for two years ago is just a fiction. i think there is a groundswell of opinion in favour of another referendum. what it is not clear how we will get to that stage. -- but it is not. 0ur we will get to that stage. -- but it is not. our second paper, the guardian. the church leads bid to
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buy wonga loans to help the poor. natalie? it is a really interesting story. 0bviously justin welby natalie? it is a really interesting story. 0bviouslyjustin welby has campaigned pretty vociferously against wonga, although not as successfully, perhaps, as stella creasy. now we find ourselves in a position where wonga collapsed last month, so what happens to their book? does it yet bought by another company who will then demanding probably high interest rates? although how you would go past wonga at 1500%, iam not although how you would go past wonga at 1500%, i am not sure. although how you would go past wonga at 1500%, iam not sure. the although how you would go past wonga at 1500%, i am not sure. the law was changed. they were captain pretty 15. i suppose the question a cynical person might ask is given that the church of england has £7 billion in and the loan book of wonga is £400 million, they could buy them and write them off. 200,000 borrowers, and the debt is £400 million. i make that an average of £2000 per person. that is an enormous sum of money if you are reclaiming it from benefit cheques, which is what they are
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suggesting here, and people's banks charge a nominal rates for short—term loans, they could be paid directly back from benefit cheques. i thing most people on benefits don't have an enormous quantity of money to spare to pay off debts. idc had ui than allowing people to renege on debt, but i find myself thinking that when you have £7 billion in assets, you can probably live with that. there was a statement earlier, wasn't there, when the story came out, comments regarding amazon and the church of england investments, justin welby doesn't really take part in the investment portfolio. but he was an investment portfolio. but he was an investment banker. he was. he was in the oil industry. which is famously more ethical than amazon, 0k. yes, so... he doesn't appear to make those detailed decisions about the church of england's investments. but if this plan were to come into effect it would clearly be driven by justin welby. he has a real history with wonga. a few years ago he announced he wanted to drive wonga
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out of business and lo and behold, wonga has been driven out of business. that goes to show, don't mess with the man from god. it actually it was about the capping of high—cost loans rather than the church of england's attempts to set off —— church of england's attempts to set off — — set church of england's attempts to set off —— set up credit unions. it is not surprising he wants to come back to the subject. there was a proposal that church of england used its own loa n that church of england used its own loan book, but they now seem to be trying to put together a rescue consortium. which would seem to be more difficult, wouldn't it? rather than using the own money. so whether it will come to fruition, who can say? doesn't that then make them a payday lender? if they are charging high interest rates, yes, of course it does. obviously they wouldn't, would they? but presumably they would they? but presumably they would try to operate in the way of a credit union, which has much lower rates. ok, let's go to the times. i haven't had a chance to read through this. what did you get from this? an
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amazing story to see on the front, isn't it? a real blast from the past. suddenly we are being told mi5 believes that the former labour leader, michael foot, was a believes that the former labour leader, michaelfoot, was a paid informant of the soviet union. a book has been written by the times columnist, ben mcintyre, who is highly respected in the field. he can definitely right. yes. the history here, of course, is that michael foot sued the times and one, sorry, sued the sunday times, i should say, over what he called the big lie, claims that he was a kgb spy. this was 23 years ago. so they are returning to this subject. of course what we now know is that in the 1970s services were out of control. you might remember the spycatcher book, peter wright talking about how they bungled and burgled their way across london. it is entirely unsurprising mi6 would
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leave foot was a spy. i think they believed all left—wing labour politicians were spies at the time, that was the mindset. what the book doesn't try to claim is that it has evidence that foot was a kgb spy, just that the depth of belief mi6 had that he was. i'm not convinced that tells us too much. it feels like revenge from beyond the grave for ten par, because he like revenge from beyond the grave forten par, because he is like revenge from beyond the grave for ten par, because he is dead and he can't see them. would you buy it or read it? i would. he can't see them. would you buy it or read it? iwould. ithink he can't see them. would you buy it or read it? i would. i think they have done an excellentjob of making you want to know more. it is a tremendous advert. so, yes, fair enough. i would absolutely read it. and mcintyre is a really good journalistic writer and he has written incredibly well on this period and earlier. —— ben mcintyre. i don't see why this wouldn't be interesting, well researched and well argued, it usually is. and the article brings margaret thatcher
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into it. the file, the information which is far too politically incendiary, says the article, to be passed to margaret thatcher, the prime minister. well, you would hope so. she was the political opponent. she would have loved this information. it is fascinating, isn't it? we had the kgb in that era, and now we are seeing the russian intelligence agency, in the news recently, with the events taking place in salisbury as well. yes, those cathedral visits. they are efficient, aren't they, the russians? we have to give them that. let's go back to the telegraph. pa rents a re let's go back to the telegraph. parents are being asked to set an example for their children and turn off their phones at night and not use them at the dinner table. off their phones at night and not use them at the dinner tablelj off their phones at night and not use them at the dinner table. i have already horrified you by taking my phone to bed at night, not having any children to be any samples, and not having a dinner table. can't
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make this work. first off, why do you take your phone to bed? do you consciously take it? because i don't sleep. i have never slept, since long before mobile phones existed. i will sleep for two hours, then be awake are another few hours, and if iam awake are another few hours, and if i am lucky i might then get back to sleep. those few hours are both boring and lonely when everybody else is asleep and you have nobody to talk to. isn't the fact that you are using an electric device making the insomnia was? i honestly don't believe that, not least because it was already terrible long before they were mobile phones. so i will deal with it the way i have to, i think. it is one of those things where you have to live with it. i go through phases where i don't sleep well at all, then i go through phases where i sleep better, and either way i would take my phone, because that is where i charge it. but if i am lucky and i go through a block of time i can actually sleep, i wouldn't use it. what are you
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doing on it? generally, just reading the news. that is not a weird thing to be doing! playing around and texting friends who live in different time zones. i've got friends in new zealand and california. i've got some friends in australia. it is lovely to be able to hear from australia. it is lovely to be able to hearfrom them, it is australia. it is lovely to be able to hear from them, it is that is the time of night when you think, yeah, because during the day, when i have work to do, i can't reply to a big email, at three o'clock in the morning when i haven't been asleep an hourand a morning when i haven't been asleep an hour and a half and morning when i haven't been asleep an hourand a halfand i'm not going to be asleep for an hour and a half, you can text a friend. do you take your phone to bed? and do you have children? i don't have children and i don't ta ke i don't have children and i don't take my phone to bed. you are good example. as a parent i think it is fairly basic advice. it shouldn't be that difficult. they shouldn't be such big challenges for parents trying to cope with children and their desire to use their new technology all the time. to limit
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that technology can be difficult. i was talking earlier about how difficult it is to not let them use their phones in their bedroom, which is other advice made baby government's relationships and sex education advisor. when it comes to turning the phone off at night and living outside the bedroom door, it is not that easy. i can see why it is not that easy. i can see why it is easy to persuade children to do their parents do it as well. two children listen to parents? the pa rents a re children listen to parents? the parents are on the phone the whole time anyway —— two children listen to pa re nts ? time anyway —— two children listen to parents? just don't have a table. honestly, you can solve this problem. it can be very difficult to restrict your own access to the phone. i think it is difficult during the day rather than at night. is this a problem of social media or is ita is this a problem of social media or is it a problem of technology? for children in particular? i think it is probably a problem of social
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media. that fear of missing out, the sense that other people are doing stuff and if you are not doing it you will be socially excluded in real life as well is your online life. and the distinction between those lives is gossamer thin for the next generation in a way that it just isn't for me. i am happy for an online existence and an off—line existence and for them to have money connections. i don't think that is true for younger people. i think it is very easy for us to stay put the phone down —— minor connections. it is incredibly difficult if everyone else you know or you feel like eve ryo ne else you know or you feel like everyone else you know, you are at your most rival as a teenager, you need to be part of a social group, if that is how they are communicating you will be excluded —— tribal. judging young people that seems incredibly stupid and rather unkind. this is the first time i have heard about the rse,
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relationship and sex education, which is going to be part of the curriculum come september 2020. perfect timing. that is exactly when people start having relationships and sex, september 20 20. we have not needed it before. perfect timing. there is a lot of criticism for the government for taking so long to update relationship education school to reflect the things that are the mafia. technology, social media, online pornography —— things that are happening now. it seems as though the lessons will be far more in tune with reality that children face today. i think there will be the ability for them to opt out. as a parent, do you think you are up to date with everything children have access to the loads —— later social media apps? it must be incredibly difficult for all parents. i don't think i know about all aspects of
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social media. i don't know what people in their 20s are doing. social media. i don't know what people in their 20s are doingm social media. i don't know what people in their 20s are doing. it is ha rd people in their 20s are doing. it is hard to keep up. part of the rse is teaching the children. i find that i am behind and i used to programme computers. if you can't do i definitely can't. we will go back to the ft. fast food chain defies florence. this looks like a fairly light story, once it has been taken very seriously by female. it is. waffles are crucial bellwethers. —— vuelta a espa na. waffles are crucial bellwethers. —— vuelta a espana. there is a waffle index about weather in the us and particularly in the deep south, where waffle house stays open and when they can stay open, such as when they can stay open, such as when hurricane katrina happened, this creates a red waffle alert and you know things are seriously
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problematic. if they stay open but only have a limited menu, and amber waffle alert. then you know things area bit waffle alert. then you know things are a bit shaky. it is a genuine way of measuring how businesses are coping in difficult weather conditions, if they have had to board up the front of the buildings and they want and get in or out, the red waffle alert tells you the weather conditions are pretty bad. if they are on an amber waffle alert it tells you that things will be back up and running as normal relatively soon. i am delighted to discover that they waffle is a way of measuring both weather and prosperity and i fully intend to use it in my own life on an hourly basis from now on. and the good news is i will be away to do it. you will! it looks like the ft has been overtaken by events. fast food chain defies florence. i think we were reading that at least a dozen waffle houses have closed. red waffle alert? they
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are issuing red waffle alert as the storm sweeps through the carolinas. they're not quite defying florence in the webby ft suggests. this waffle index was first set in 201! —— in the way the ft suggests. there we re —— in the way the ft suggests. there were half a dozen, a dozen. keep ta bs were half a dozen, a dozen. keep tabs on the waffle in dax overnight —— index. tabs on the waffle in dax overnight -- index. banks, ending on waffles. got me hungry. ice cream or cream? cream. that's it for the papers tonight. don't forget, you can see the front pages of the papers online on the bbc news website. it's all there for you seven days a week at bbc.co.uk/papers. and if you miss the programme any evening you can watch it later on bbc iplayer. thank you, rob and natalie. from all of us, goodnight. good evening. losses for tonight.
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0n the verge of a first grand tour title, simon yates climbs to a huge lead in the vuelta a espana. gloucester came back from being ten points down at half—time to win the west derby against bristol, 35—13. the bears, promoted at the end of last season were leading 13— three at the break. gloucester scored five tries in the second half, two from charlie sharples. 0spreys' unbeaten start to the season in the proi4 has come to a crushing end. they were beaten 49—13 by munster in limerick. 0spreys had won their opening two league matches but conceded seven tries to munster, including this one finished by wing darren sweetnam. meanwhile, edinburgh held on for their first win of the season
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at home to connacht. duhan van der merwe's first half try put them on their way to a 17—10 victory. st helens won rugby league super league's league leaders' shield after a comfortable victory at home to hull fc. they only needed a point to secure their top placing, but did it in style — winning 38—12. celtic remain second in the scottish premiership after a goalless d raw with st mirren tonight. they had to play much of the game with just ten men after 0livier ntcham was sent—off for a second yellow in the first half. it was 0ran kearney‘s first game in charge of st mirren. hearts are still top of the table two points ahead of celtic. west brom missed the chance to move into the championship top three after being held to a 1—1 draw against birmingham in tonight's west midlands derby. birmingham's point takes them clear of the bottom three but they were dominant for long periods of this game. they took the lead when jota scored from close range in the first half but the spaniard then missed the chance to put garry monk's side two up from the penalty spot.
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west brom punished them soon after with matt phillips finding the equaliser, but a point keeps the baggies three points off the league leaders. dan da n eva ns dan evans beat denis istomin in five sets. cameron norrie has lost tonight. gb is without andy murray and kyle edmund. they must win the best—of—5 tie to be seeded in next few‘s new look david scott format. steph curry is regarded as one of nba's best point guards. the highest paid player in the league and considered by many as an all—time great. well, today, he's in east london inspiring a new generation of basketball players on this side of the atlantic. he took some time out to tell our sports editor dan roan that he can relate to
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serena williams‘ outburst on court during the us open final and says it's important to start a conversation. i think on the court we all have reactions to things that happen, i have drawn mouthpieces before, had outbursts that you might want to ta ke outbursts that you might want to take back. the way she handled it's, how eloquently she put her sentiments around gender equality in her sport, it created a conversation that we all can assess for ourselves —— how she handled it afterwards. at think it did not take away from naomi. it was her time to shine as a champion. there were issues that serena williams wanted to deal with. those conversations will keep going and it is because of how she took a stand. that is all the sport. plenty more on the website, including more on simon yates. he has increased his
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lead at the vuelta a espana to more than a minute and a half with one competitive stage to go, going for his first went to a victory. that is on the website. that is the sport. we have some warm tropical air heading our way this week. strong winds as well. today the warmest air was in the far south—west, cornal and devon. about 20 degrees in one or two places in the sunshine. —— cornall. the best of the weather will be in the south east. we will up, blowing rain into the north was that will push into england and miles on sunday. not a great deal of rain through the rest of tonight. we have this link of cloud across northern england, back into northern ireland. they will be pockets of light rain and drizzle and maybe the odd shower in the north—west of scotland. coldest in scotland, especially the north—east, three or four degrees, marred if you had further south, ten or ii celsius. a
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pretty cloudy day across the far north of england. we see the crowd—pleasing in northern ireland. a more widely later in the daily, that will push its way into scotland. sunny spells for much of wales and southern england, where it may be warmer than it was today. we have some weather systems on the way. these are pushing in from the north—west. 0vernight, saturday night into sunday, we will seek heavy rain and strong winds for scotla nd heavy rain and strong winds for scotland and northern ireland. that should be followed by sunshine and showers on sunday. quite a few showers on sunday. quite a few showers in the north—west. the band of rain get stuck across northern england and wales, not far away from the south—west. we happy sunny skies in the south—east and east and there, that is where you can see it is warmer. quite a contrast to the cooler and fresh air and eagle attempt is in the north—west of scotland. 23 is quite likely. as we head into the early part of next
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week, this area of low pressure contains rem na nts week, this area of low pressure contains remnants of ex— hurricane helene. it looks like it will be driven quickly north. mainly at the western side of the uk. the winds are going to strengthen all the while. the air is going to be coming up while. the air is going to be coming up from while. the air is going to be coming upfrom a while. the air is going to be coming up from a long way south, from the tropics. it will feel particularly warm across the eastern side of the uk. not as warm further north and west across the uk. there will be stronger winds for a while. briefly a spell of rain. heading south—east, we will find temperatures peaking on tuesday, 25, 20 six degrees. —— 26. this is bbc news. i'm nuala mcgovern. our top stories: hurricane florence is pounding the carolina coast with powerful winds and devastating rains. the first fatailities are reported, and the worst could be still to come. as far as
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as farasi as far as i know, the eye is still off the coast and it is heading south, so we could be in this wind for a long time. super typhoon mangkhut has made landfall in the northwestern philippines, with winds of over 200km per hour. thousands of people are being moved to safety. the manager of this hotel has taped up the manager of this hotel has taped up the windows to stop them from blowing in the comes. livelihoods, properties and lives are all at risk tonight.
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