it makes you want much now it's time for a look at the weather with helen willetts. looks like we are stepping into a spell of autumnal, wet and windy weather. still some rain in behind, our next area of low pressure from the atlantic. wind and rain on its way. through the evening and overnight, drizzly rain, misty over the hills. behind it, clear skies, a bit cooler with showers toward the north. already by the time you get to monday we will start to see the next area of wet weather starting to move in. the remnants of ex—hurricane helene, so some tropical endings there will be quite a lot of rain. in the south, despite misty, murky weather, it is improving a bright with sunshine and warm as well, even across the eastern side of scotland. turning windy through monday night,

a spell of gales of the irish sea and that wet weather. more gales on wednesday. hello this is bbc news — the headlines: theresa may has revealed her frustration with the continued speculation over her leadership, as the prime minister defends her brexit plan. the mayor of london, sadiq khan, has called for a second eu referendum and attacked the government's handling of brexit. around 50 people have been killed by flooding and landslides in the philippines, as typhoon mangkhut makes landfall on the china coast. now on bbc news, a special report by inside out into the disruption experienced by train passengers in the north of england. this is for northern, crossing the border. bringing us mismanaged

timetable trauma. delays for the rich, just as bad for the poor. displayed on chaotic led boards. the hordes of commuters, they slowly grow older, still waiting but late, stood shoulder—to—shoulder. poor service, it tests our passengers' brains. they know they'll be rammed inside two tiny trains. and as they step forward to make their approaches, a loud tinny tannoy blares out a new notice. this train is now cancelled, a robot voice misers. today's problem due to a shortage of drivers. but new rolling stock is coming. our wait‘s nearly ended. can our railway be mended? good evening and welcome to a special edition of the programme coming live from the national railway museum in york. this japanese bullet train is designed to travel

at more than 200 miles an hour. but passengers in the north of england say their speeds are more a snail‘s pace. for the first time in the history of the programme, our programmes across the north of england have come together to ask if we are getting a raw deal when it comes to investment in the railways. passengers across the north have had a miserable summer of travel disruption. i've had two occasions where the person stood next to me has passed out. a little old ladyjust slumped down the back of my legs. on the east coast main line, virgin became the third private operator to face financial meltdown. which franchise will be next? you've not only got what is just

generally known as northern fail, but you'll also have problems on the trans—pennine route. but are our trains really as bad as we think? we've taken to trains, planes and automobiles to find out. i thought this was going to be the easy bit. £93. we're joined this evening by the northern powerhouse ministerjake berry, and lindsey howley representing passengers, and we hope to have in salford the mayor of manchester, andy burnham. in may, a new timetable was introduced and it caused chaos. passengers who use northern rail have been the worst affected. according to figures, the problems on northern rail alone cost our region £38 million.

at the height of these timetabling issues, over 15% of the companies' cross—pennine trains were very late or cancelled. we've been out with passengers to find out how bad things have been. these trains are a joke. they're always packed out. we're travelling on a third—world train service. you can hear the rattling now. overcrowding, heat. the whole experience isjust grim. whatever your destination, travelling round the north this summer has been anything but fun. the service is rubbish. we are sorry... leeds railway station, where it's every man and woman for themselves. if it's a three—carriage, we'll need to hot—step it up the platform when we see the train

coming round the corner in a minute. gemma's waiting for the train running from middlesbrough to manchester airport. tonight, it's late. and little. yes, it's three carriages. we'll have to run up this end to try and get on. we do apologise... this is normal. people behind you can't physically get on the train. it really isn't a good end to the day at all. trans—pennine has promised more carriages later this year but they don't seem to be on track with that now. in fact, they took the dubious award for passengers being the most squeezed last autumn, with two of their trains recorded carrying double the capacity. when a new timetable came into force in may, northern rail cancelled more

than 160 services. the line from oxon to windermere closed completely for a month. commuters like dan were hoping a new timetable would signal a new beginning. dan travels on a northern service to manchester. i've had two occasions where the person stood next to me has passed out. one little old ladyjust slumped down the back of my legs. i was fortunate enough to live in belgium for a year and the train service over there was fantastic. i'd take that. i don't understand why they can do it and we can't. for one man, the summer of disruption was the final straw. the trains have got so bad recently, i've had to learn how to drive. stephen commutes on a northern train to manchester but he hopes

not for much longer. major problems are cancellations, overfilling, having to stand against doors, being squashed against doors. people fainting, passing out. and the train then being even later. i have to thank the people running them at the moment — it's putting business my way. northern says it's also bringing in new trains. on top of the timetable chaos, passengers have also enjoyed strikes in a dispute over the use of guards. with more industrial action planned, northern says it's working to find a solution. and if it's not staff striking... it's the lightning. there was a hissing sound and everything was cancelled or delayed. at the end ofjuly, the east coast main line

was paralysed by a lightning strike, causing more than 500 cancellations, and cost millions of pounds. gemma has squeezed off in one piece at dewsbury. i had to climb over someone's suitcase to get out. that's not unusual either. someone lost their shoes. he stepped on my foot and my shoe fell off underneath the platform. my shoe's in leeds! missing trains, missing shoes — after the summer of chaos, travellers across the north have a simple message. we're ignored in the north. chris grayling should come up and see how bad the problem is. do what you say you're going to do. put the trains out on time and send the right number of carriages. the east coast main line should be the jewel in the crown of britain's railways but it has become the line that no—one can handle. three rail companies

have failed to see out their contracts since 2006. chris has been trying to find out why, and along the way he's been discovering that the next generation of trains could be taking the slow lane in the north. it should be a model service but time and again the service has hit the buffers. last may, the transport secretary made this announcement. i will terminate virgin trains east coast contract on the 24th ofjune 2018. he stepped in because the partnership running the line couldn't make £2 billion worth of payments to the government. it's a bit like buying a car or buying a house and being told that if your income does not work out, you can of course escape the obligation to repay. and say, i don't really know what it is worth,

but it's yours, mate. to keep the trains running, the government took over. enter london north eastern railway. its trains look the same and so did its managing director. david horne had been the managing director of the failing company and now he is the new managing director. i find it very surprising that the same managing director is in place and very surprised the government will not answer my questions about how much he is being paid because he was paid a huge salary for running a failing train service for virgin and stagecoach. and so it's really business as usual. the company said his salary has not changed but it would not give a figure. what of the future? it looks a bit bumpy. lner is due to get faster trains in december. but we've been told there's

an extraordinary problem with them. industry insiders say the electronics interfere with things like points and level crossings. it only affects older equipment, which is here in the north, so from december, the new high—tech, high—speed train will be faster, cleaner electric in the south and slower, dirtier diesel in the north. i ordered those trains when i was transport secretary ten years ago. they had ten years to get these signalling issues right. so they will be slower, more expensive to operate, they will have less capacity and hundreds of millions of pounds of public money is being wasted again. this should be sorted out and it is chris grayling's responsibility. the companies say they are working

on a fix to all the signals. the plan is still to introduce the new system in december. what's more, east coast is not only franchise that may be in trouble. there are big concerns about the state at the moment with trans—pennin, and i would not bet against there being real problems there and that would be a real double whammy for the north of england. it is generally referred to by the public as northern fail. trans—pennine told us it is committed to investment, more seats and more new trains in the next two years. so what is the solution? perhaps it is one of these, a fat controller. i think there should be a commissioner of transport for the north whose job is to see that the advertised service is being delivered. and to give instructions to the privatised rail companies and to network rail

to see that that happens. instead, it has been decided that trains on the east coast line will be run by a partnership between the government and a private company from 2020. it is already predicted that will hit the buffers, too. i think within two years, it will be discovered it is impossible finding a private company that would be prepared to go into something where it is not in control of all the risk, particularly where network rail has a poor track record literally at the moment of delivering what it has promised and delivering value for money. so, don't throw out the virgin liveryjust yet. the government has not yet ruled out giving the company another chance to make a go on one of the most troubled lines in england. we are in a position in september

and the timetable has stabilised. we will see the start of the new trains arriving and every single train in the north of england is either being replaced with a brand—new train or a completely refurbish new train. the old pacer trains are going to the scrap yard. so i'm really sorry for the disruption this summer. i'm not sorry we are doing a big investment programme in the railways in the north which will give people newer and better trains. it north which will give people newer and bettertrains. it isjust north which will give people newer and better trains. it isjust a frustration that we've had for the disruption. but ultimately does the running of the railways stopped with you? ourjob is to take the railway forward was so it's why we've done all the modernisation, the investment, the modernisation in preston, blackpool, liverpool. you

had to take the east coast back in hand. if the privatised railway a model that doesn't work the way it is franchised at the moment? model that doesn't work the way it is franchised at the moment7m model that doesn't work the way it is franchised at the moment? it is not about franchise or ownership. our railway is busting at the seams. it wouldn't matter if it was run by the government or a private company. it would still be full. it is about new trains, smarterworking, new technology. so you are optimistic? i'm optimistic about our goals. i don't underestimate the challenge. this summer has been a sobering experience for everybody in the railways. i feel deeply sorry for the passengers affected and sorry that they were affected, but i'm not sorry we are putting money into sort out problems this summer, but more particularly, the problems with the railway in north. we are joined now by the mayor greater manchester, andy burnham.

he also sits on the transport for the north board. that is a bit like transport for london but with less power. according to chris grayling, everything is going to be fine? not if you speak to people in greater manchester. we have had another terrible day on the trains. people unable to get into work. we have had four months of chaos and itjust goes on and on. we need a solution from chris grayling. he needs to work with transport for the north to find a solution and i would say that is to bring in a troubleshooter who can bang heads together and get services back on track. we cannot carry on in this position. as a passenger, is that not something you would welcome? i think so, i hope so. what really needs to be done isjust the demand, northern leaders need to get together and demand of westminster that the investment in transport in the north is not only integrated but is made on a par with investment in the south. as the minister for the north, effectively, if i can call you that, that is yourjob? i have good news.

in this spending review period, we are spending more on improving northern transport than we are in the south of the country. and that is because of decades of underinvestment. when we launched the northern powerhouse, we said let's put a line in the concrete, we accept there is groaning infrastructure in the north of england and we need to move beyond that and talk about the investment and make those investments, so if you live in the north of england, what does that feel like today? i would say travel anywhere in the north of england or the motorways and you will see the improvements. there is a commitment to improving systems. the figures you quoted, you are being very selective, you are not including all the public money that goes into transport for london. because of a funding change, they do not appear in the figures any more. i don't accept that. what transport for london does

is use the fare box that people pay to then borrow more money and they also have the power for example to raise business rate levies on the businesses in london to pay for infrastructure. if you want to talk about the question of whether transport for the north should have similar powers, i think now is a great time to start but conversation. what is required is for northern leaders to volunteer to use those things to borrow money and invest across the north in a strategic way. is that something you welcome, andy burnham? i welcome the recognition that the north of england needs more power. we can never go through a summer like the one we have just had where we have been calling all summer on the government to help us sort things out and that call has gone unanswered. you cannot say this for the north of england and to pay for this

as he seemed to say, north of england. it was the government promised the north a northern powerhouse and it is time they delivered it. i am not suggesting for one moment it is the north who pays for it on their own but a great first step if you want to mirror the powers of transport for london is for the revenues to be invested back in northern transport and just to be clear about the disruption over this summer, i have said on repeated occasions it has been completely unacceptable, the service we have seen, on northern rail, but it is quite complicated because those new timetables were notjust introduced by the government, transport for the north satjointly with the government and i have heard government ministers, chris grayling and myself saying sorry for the disruption, what i have not heard are the representatives from transport for the north who are on that committee saying

sorry and apologising for their part, who were on that committee. that is your chance to, andy burnham. i did not design a timetable. i am not responsible for running the railways. i am trying to sort things out but we have a situation where would this is a partnership with the government. the government did not turn up to our last meeting of transport for the north. we cannot take the decisions the north needs to get things back contract. if this had been happening in the south of england, we would never have heard the end of it and everything possible would have been thrown at it to sort it out and that is the discrepancy, isn't it? we don't get the same attention. as a journalist, somebody who does not drive a car, you are faced with the reality of what these people are talking about, these politicians are talking about? do you get any comfort from this? not really, no. even transport for the north having greater powers, a conversation,

it should have already happened. why has transport for london been exempt from so much of the deregulation? why is the announcement only coming out after £35 billion has been spent on crossrail? can we start to bring public transport in the north up to the levels of the 20th century before going... ? it is in the 19th! it is a line in the concrete. what i would say is, sorry seems to be the hardest word. we need to go right now. our timetable has come to an end. last week, we decided to test the transport system

across the north of england. we set off to see who could get to radio newcastle the quickest. but who came out on top? here is how we got on. i don't even know what time the flight is. liverpool lime street, here we come. press the clutch fully. my flight leaves in less than an hour. and we are stuck in traffic afterjust one minute. £93. really?! the sign said long delays. we are never going to win this.

we got to the airport with 13 minutes to go and i had to run the gate. my shoelaces are still undone from security. we have news our train has been diverted because of an incident on the line ahead. whether that means we will be slower faster, we don't know. i don't take this route very often but i hear from colleagues who do who do travel on the m62 that it is a nightmare and i am learning first—hand that is true. made it, just. we are about to hit rush hour and just look at the traffic already. bbc newcastle. as quickly as you can.

winners! but who was actually the quickest? tell us. i got there in four hours and 31 minutes. i was not far behind, i was second. and i cannot believe this but i was last in the car. four hours and 36 minutes. it is interesting how close it all was. it is hard to draw any conclusion because we all had a similar experience and similarjourney time. you pay your money and you take your choice. it depends on which mode you prefer. at least i got a seat. i got a seat for half of the journey but it is all about that passenger experience and do you know what?

we have asked for your comments and you have not held back at all. thank you very much for all of your contributions. we know these issues plague you on a daily basis. we are about to depart from this particular platform but keep your comments coming in. hello. we had the autumnal chilly start with a little mist and fog recently. this week we have autumnal gales with soaking rain in the forecast. we've had a little rain around this weekend and through sunday it's made its way further south across england and wales, as we saw in wigan. this is the main band of rain but all the time it is petering out. a lot of rain and low cloud with it.

to the north, brighter with showers and sunshine either side to end the day. through the evening and overnight, that misty drizzly weather will sink to southern areas, and behind it, turning a tad chilly with mist and fog around and generally light winds. we already see the signs of a change coming into the south west of ireland, and that will be the first of the rain associated with the remnants of that hurricane, so the tropical air gives it some soaking rain and some strong to galeforce winds up through the irish sea, so autumnal gales are on the way before it whisks away, and we could have more on wednesday. interestingly, as well as the wet and windy weather, we will also see temperatures lifting as the warm and humid air drags its way into southern areas, so the tropical air will also have the effect of giving southern parts temperatures into the mid—20s with sunshine as well. but clearly concern about the heavy rain we are getting, which could cause disruption through monday evening and overnight into tuesday.

on monday, grey and drizzly with mist and fog across the hills, and a gradual improvement through england and wales, but for scotland and northern ireland, a lot of cloud around with heavy rain for a time, but where it stays dry, 18 or 19, but 2a, 25 in the south and east, so feeling quite summer—like again. monday evening and overnight, more rain with that deepening area of low pressure moving northwards, bringing more rain and gales to the irish coast, perhaps some for scotland as well, so a very mild night and these temperatures akin with the average day temperatures for this time of year. by tuesday, that starts to move out of the way, so a windy start to tuesday morning, and then we look to the atlantic for this next area of low pressure, with potentially stronger winds and severe gales to the north and west. in

this is bbc news i'm lukwesa burak. the headlines at 5: theresa may defends her brexit plan, as the prime minister hits out at speculation over her future. this is where i get a little bit irritated — this is not, this debate is not about my future. this debate is about the future of the people of the uk and the future of the united kingdom. the mayor of london, sadiq khan, calls for a second eu referendum — as he attacks the government's handling of brexit. in other news. around 50 people are killed in flooding and landslides in the philippines casued by typhoon mangkhut, which has now made landfall on the china coast. the french far right leader, marine le pen re—launches her party in the philippines casued by typhoon mangkhut,

the french far right leader, marine le pen re—launches her party to try and broaden its appeal.