hello. it's wednesday, it's nine o'clock. i'm victoria derbyshire. welcome to the programme. what will brexit mean for you? in six months' time, we should know how yourjob, your way of life, will be affected by the decision this country took to leave the european union. these 1a people will all be affected by whatever the government negotiates in the coming months — a care worker, a car plant worker, a fishmonger, a student, an eu citizen planning to pack their bags and leave the uk country. how do they feel with six months to go? iam i am still certain our best days lie ahead. i am uncertain and ill—prepared. ahead. i am uncertain and ill-prepared. brexit brings opportunity for agriculture.” ill-prepared. brexit brings opportunity for agriculture. i am feeling scared and uncertain. we will be following their lives over the coming months and years.

these three politicians all want different outcomes — whether that's to walk away with no deal to negotiate on the terms theresa may has outlined, or hold a second referendum on the deal. can they persuade our brexit bunch that their way is best? and with so much at stake how do we know what to believe? i'm chris morris. iam the i am the reality check correspondent trying to separate the facts about brexit from all those opinions. also today — the mayor of london launches another scheme to tackle violent crime in the capital — based on a successful one in glasgow we told you about at the start of this year. callum told us that scheme in scotland saved his life. i have nearly had my arms severed off and stabbed in the head, fractured skulls, i have been stabbed in the back, punctured lungs. we'll bring together people behind that glasgow idea and the london one, just after 10 o'clock. and if you've been affected by violent crime in london — tell us, is this the thing to stop the killings? hello.

welcome to the programme. we're live until 11 this morning. no doubt you've thought about how your life, yourjob, your family is likely to be affected by brexit. perhaps you're already feeling the effects, even though it's still six months. do you even know what might happen, depending on what kind of deal we get, or are you confused, bewildered, totally bored by it? we hope the next hour will enlighten you! let us know your thoughts and send us your qtns —— questions about brexit — use the hashtag victoria live. if you re e—mailing and are happy use the hashtag victoria live. and maybe want to take part in the programme, please include your phone number in your message. if you text, you ll be charged at the standard network rate. our top story today... the eu's chief brexit negotiator, michel barnier, says he is willing to improve his offer to the uk over the irish border. the uk and eu both want to avoid a hard border with cameras or guard posts, but can't agree on how.

his proposal comes as theresa may prepares for a meeting of eu leaders in salzburg, where she will try to win support for her brexit plan. our europe correspondent, damian grammaticas, is in salzburg. what will she say? mr barnier will be here later to brief eu leaders but, before that, theresa may will be here this evening and she will be at the dinner that the leaders will have when they gather here this evening and she will be in that dinner, pushing her ideas for this brexit plan, her chequers plan for the future, trying to say to the eu leaders, by my ideas because of the political need to get a deal through

at home. her difficulty as they are very unconvinced by that and they we re very unconvinced by that and they were then hear from very unconvinced by that and they were then hearfrom mr barnier, the eu chief negotiator tomorrow morning at the beginning of their brexit session and mr barnier is sticking and the eu leaders are sticking to their side, or their plan, and the eu leaders are sticking to theirside, ortheir plan, which and the eu leaders are sticking to their side, or their plan, which is that they need this backstop, this guarantee, that there will never be a border between northern ireland and ireland whatever the circumstances in the future. mr barnier said last night he can soften the proposal a little bit, make it a little bit more palatable with the idea of having checks, not between northern ireland and ireland but between northern ireland and the uk at ports like liverpool. they can be moved to factories, markets and distribution centres where paperwork and customs clearance and other regulatory checks can be done, the paperwork is ready so good is can

pass through freely. that is what he is saying, not changing the idea fundamentally. the problem is the uk does not like that idea fundamentally even though has committed to saying there will be an open border in ireland. still the real difficulty at the heart of the negotiations. hand mrs may push eu leaders today towards her view? we will have to see what words they come out with at the end. we will talk to our temper macro bunch in a moment and politicians. wherever you are, send us your views. —— we will talk to our brexit bunch. joanna gosling is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the day's news. £2 billion of new funding to build affordable and social housing in england has been announced by theresa may this morning. housing associations, local authorities and other organisations will be able to bid for money to spend on projects that will start development after 2021. the national housing federation, which represents housing associations in england, says the announcement is "extremely welcome". winds of up to 80 mph could put

lives at risk and disrupt travel and power supplies across parts of the the uk. an amber, "be prepared", weather warning is in force in northern ireland, scotland and northern england, and heavy rain is forecast. belfast city council has closed all parks, playgrounds and playing fields because of the storm. storm ali is the uk's first named storm of the season. four million people have been charged more than they need to for their mobile phones according to research by citizen's advice bureau. it says three of britain's biggest mobile phone networks — ee, 3 and vodafone — routinely carry on charging customers for their handsets after the cost has been paid off. the industry regulator, ofcom, says it has set out plans to force companies to tell customers when their minimum contract ends. a british satellite has for the first time successfully thrown a net into orbit to demonstrate how to capture a piece of space debris. there are millions of items of space junk floating around the earth, which pose a risk to operational spacecraft and satellites.

scientists say this experimental clean up operation will have to become routine if we want to keep exploring and using space. tv host and comedy writer denis norden has died aged 96. his family said he passed away after spending weeks at the royal free hospital in north london. the presenter was famed for his dry delivery and iconic clipboard introducing bloopers and outtakes on it'll be alright on the night. so, it was rudyard kipling who said, "if you can smile while all about you is going wrong, then you're probably gathering more material for another cock—up programme." it's been exactly what our researchers have been doing all year. welcome to this 10th collection of alright outtakes, 112 in all, each one guaranteed morning—fresh, lemon—scented, and just the type of thing they don't tell you about on media training courses. as usual, i'm the price you have

to pay for the funny bits! i used to love watching him and i was a kid. that is a summary of the news. do get in touch with us throughout the morning — use the hashtage victoria live and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. there is e—mail as well. with six months to go until brexit "exit day", until britain leaves the european union, today we've brought together 14 people from right across the uk, who all have very different views, and whose lives will all be affected — in some cases quite seriously — by whatever the government negotiates over the next six months. these 14 people are our very own brexit family. we are going to follow brexit through them and their lives over the coming vital months and years, so we can all hear first—hand how these decisions are affecting them, and many others just like them. this could be the start of a

beautiful relationship that we stay friends over the next few years. also here we have three politicians with very different views on what should happen over the next few months. conservative mp george freeman, he used to be close to theresa may, in that he chaired her policy board, and last week said he will put his name forward to be the next tory leader if "asked to". has anyone asked you yet? there is a very long queue. we will not hold oui’ very long queue. we will not hold our breath. he supports theresa may, and her negotiating position. conservative mp john redwood doesn't. he wants the uk to leave the eu on our own terms — a full uk brexit, as he puts it. and labour mp wes streeting. he's part of the people's vote campaign, which means he wants to offer the country a second referendum on whatever deal mrs may reality check correspondent, is here too.

you have such a difficultjob working out what is fact and fiction but hopefully you will be able to do that. there is so much debate about the very basics. i think people deserve to know the basis on which they are making decisions. good morning. first of all, a big broad question. how do you think the government has handled brexit negotiations? drea dfully. dreadfully. i think they have all handled it very wrong league. i do not think they listened to the people whatsoever, they squabbled like a load of children at school, in the playground. one wants the ball and they will not share. they are not getting on with it and i am very disappointed.” are not getting on with it and i am very disappointed. i agree with that. infighting in government is not good for the better not do us any favours when we are negotiating such a big deal going forward and it is important that they get on with

it. i think the international world is confused by us completely and i think our politicians are not putting forward a great face on who we are on a global environment. quite frankly, i am embarrassed. we used to be fantastic in great britain. i would like to come back on that point. the argument that we the country are not fantastic, we are not good, i think that is com pletely are not good, i think that is completely ridiculous. we are a great, global trading nation. completely ridiculous. we are a great, globaltrading nation. howard eu think politicians are handling it? with brexit, nobody has done it before. it is the first time anyone has done it. a lot of respect for to re ce nt has done it. a lot of respect for to recent me, she has a very difficult job. i may not agree with the way she has gone about it but she is doing a very difficult job that no other politicians want to do. doing a very difficult job that no other politicians want to dom doing a very difficult job that no other politicians want to do. it is a lack of clarity and it is not helping industry. there needs to be

clarity of what is happening and things need to be put into place. the clock is ticking. we see on tv, 183 days or whatever to brexit. there is not the time to put the infrastructure in place for a hard brexit with full customs formalities fully being with —— a hard brexit with full customs for international haulage. i am very worried. i started to attend meetings with chris grayling, the transport secretary. i have been to three of those meetings. we still have no clarity. the clock is ticking. there is no time to get the customs infrastructure in place, customs office rs infrastructure in place, customs officers and agents at the ports. the french have not started putting anything together regarding customs infrastructure at the other side of the channel. a hard brexit will be

disaster for british industry and the economy. opposition politicians can labour, snp, how are they handling brexit? every party except the greens and lib dems and snp have treated eu citizens very, very appallingly. we have been 817 days in limbo with no guarantees on our stage, on our rights by that is for eu citizens in the country as well as for the british in europe.|j thought eu citizens' rights were guaranteed almost immediately. no, they are not. sorry v—chip in there. that is probably another debate. the home office hostile environment has been dreadful. a number of eu citizens have been in the country for many, many years and they have been refused an application for permanent residency. that is the

precursor to the settled status application. sorry to interrupt. tell people what you are doing next month? iam tell people what you are doing next month? i am leaving the country. how long have you been here? for19 yea rs. we have long have you been here? for19 years. we have sold our house, we have sold the business and i have had to do my resignation at work and we are moving to germany. why are you doing that? we need to secure ourselves and we do not have confidence in the british government and british politics at the moment and british politics at the moment and we have made that very difficult decision, which is heartbreaking. i'm going to bring in politicians to a nswer i'm going to bring in politicians to answer the broad question. you are a conservative activist who is at school. welcome to the programme. he says theresa may has a really impossiblejob. broadly says theresa may has a really impossible job. broadly speaking, with this small sample of people, they are not impressed with

politicians generally. if a failure of the political class? the last few years has been shambolic. i was a business minister who voted to remain. ithink business minister who voted to remain. i think brexit has been an expression for a lot of public anger. politicians, all others, have to respond and challenge it into a positive brexit. iwas to respond and challenge it into a positive brexit. i was business ministerand if we positive brexit. i was business minister and if we tried to tell the british public they were wrong we would unleash an even bigger crisis. we must get on with it. with respect to my two friends on the left, i do not think they are hard brexit, crash out and show we are tough enough, ido crash out and show we are tough enough, i do not think that is sensible for industry or business. is it guilty as charged? the political class that let people down. obviously because a lot of mps and peers don't accept the will of the british people and a lot of them

have been working with the eu against britain... but a lot of people here are talking about... would you like to hear my view? yes. asi would you like to hear my view? yes. as i say, the lords and people with in the commons have been doing deals with the eu, when we need unity to negotiate a sensible exit and they have used every parliamentary trick in the book to stop legislation going through and delay legislation. i'm a democrat and am in favour of a lively parliament and want to restore its powers but parliament should not set itself against the verdict of the british people because we the parliament gave people the vote and we the parliament told them, and the government sent a letter to every household saying it was their decision. it is parliament'sjob to get on with it and i'm afraid parliament has failed to do that in a sensible and unified way which has undermined our position in negotiations. how has mrs may handle

the negotiations? i think her checkers idea is illjudged and i will oppose it if it makes progress. but i don't think it can carry parliament and it can't carry the eu. sol parliament and it can't carry the eu. so i am urging herto move on and come up with a proposal now for and come up with a proposal now for a free trade for which i think would make sense. opposition politicians don't necessarily come out of it well either in the last two years.” thinkjohn‘s characterisation is not fair. a majority of peers and mps voted to remain in the european union, but a majority also voted to trigger article 50. i am a remainer but voted with the outcome of the referendum. for me the fundamental betrayal of the last couple of years is that the brexit that was promised cannot be delivered. all the promises taken together cannot be delivered. all the promises ta ken together cannot cannot be delivered. all the promises taken together cannot be delivered, so we are in a position where the prime minister is trying to meet the best of a bad job, getting what she can out of the negotiations. and it is difficult, whoever was in that job negotiations. and it is difficult, whoever was in thatjob would find it difficult. the point is, whatever

comes back will look very different to what is promised. that's one of the reasons, apart from parliamentary deadlock as john the reasons, apart from parliamentary deadlock asjohn has acknowledged, the checkers deal couldn't even keep the cabinet together and doesn't command a majority in parliament. there are two reasons why i support a people's vote on the final deal. the first is that parliamentary deadlock means i can't see any deal commanding a majority. the second thing is, this is so fundamental. it's not like a general election where you might not like the party that is in but you could throw them out next time. unlike that, this will have an impact for generations to come. given the deal itself will look very different to the leaver prospectus, it's only right people get the opportunity. what specifically cannot be delivered that would be promised? £350 million to the nhs. something specific. it was plastered on the side of a... but taken together. there is a huge amount of

money that goes to the eu that we need to spend in our country. i want my money for the schools and hospitals in my local area and i am sure you do. we need to see tax cuts so sure you do. we need to see tax cuts so people have income growth and can spend more on themselves that there isa spend more on themselves that there is a huge pile of money going to the eu. why do you want to keep giving them 12 billion a year that we don't have, or 39 billion? this is one of the prime minister's difficulties, and it's a challenge, whether you ta ke and it's a challenge, whether you take agriculture, universities, research funding, the government will not make a promise to match the funding that these sectors get from the eu right now. if there was a case that we got a great exit dividend and we would be swimming in money after brexit, we would all vote for it, but that isn't the case. let's hear from agriculture workers now. eleanor, you are a farm manager on your parents' big farm in south yorkshire. how are you feeling about brexit? initially i voted to

remain, i about brexit? initially i voted to remain, lam about brexit? initially i voted to remain, i am open about that, but at the minute we are trying to make the best out of the opportunity we have got. i think the worst thing, especially from a young person's perspective is that you politicians have absolutely no idea what it is like for us on the ground. i spent every day working land producing food and you have no idea what that is like. you just keep pumping money into other things and chopping off our hands with the deals that are coming and they're not coming. all you are interested in is making the country money, but then you are pumping it in all the wrong places. i think the problem with brexit at the minute is it is not user friendly. it is not one size fits all and friendly. it is not one size fits allandl friendly. it is not one size fits all and i appreciate it isn't going to be, but it needs to be more in touch with people. is brexit is dividing british society? has it done? it was a 50-50 choice. i don't

think a second referendum would be any less divisive. i don't think you will solve the division by creating another referendum and going through all that again. i another referendum and going through allthat again. i hear another referendum and going through all that again. i hear what wes streeting is saying, but i don't think it's a solution to the problem he has identified. i think we actually want stability and the problem we have at the moment is that even in government the stability is not there. every business needs to actually know what the future holds for them because they are making plans now, but they can't make plans if they don't know what... this is a really important point. we expect them to be more businesslike about this. if it was a board decision, i think, john, businesslike about this. if it was a board decision, ithink, john, it would be reckless to say, we will crash out and we will survive. we will not crash out, we will leave and have wto terms that will work fine. let him finish. then chris morris will explain those wto terms.

support the prime minister in finding a compromise. everybody will have to find a compromise on this. the promises that were made will not all be delivered. we have to find something that works for the whole country. a solution with the course is the european free trade area, not subject to the ecj, we will not be in the customs union but it will give business the reassurance it needs and it's a solution this country could live with outside european union but with access to the market. george, why do you make everything so difficult? the north sea, the uk's natural biggest asset, the north sea, fishing, oiland sea, the uk's natural biggest asset, the north sea, fishing, oil and gas, wind energy and aggregates. in fishing, we have allowed our waters to be raped by europe for 40 years. what we want is now is to take full control of our waters... let me finish. we want to take full control of our waters and the fish within it, and we want to get on with our jobs. we don't want any subsidies.

all you want to do is to be allowed to catch our own fish in our waters. how simple is that, george? chris morris, the reality check correspondence, the term wto terms, what does it mean? first of all, two broad points. the first, it is clear that we voted to leave two years ago but there is no agreement what that means and that is a problem. the other word we keep hearing, all across the country, is uncertainty. i think that's the biggest problem in this whole process for businesses and consumers. the wto rules... we have two negotiations going on, one is on the withdrawal agreement, trying to set the terms on which we leave the eu, the divorce, if you like. if there is no agreement then we will leave the eu and default on toa we will leave the eu and default on to a new way of trading which will be on the basic rules of the world trade organisation. the problem there is you have different opinions

on what that means. people likejohn redwood and the european reform group of mps say it would be great and the economy would grow and we would gain billions of pounds over several years. i thinkjohn would agree the majority of economists... you might think they are wrong, but they disagree with that and they save trading on those sick terms like that would be difficult. —— trading on those basic terms. jeff necklace from wales works for an alarm company and des mcdonald works for ford as a research engineer. —— jack nicklaus. i want to talk about the potential impact on your factory. our factory where i work, we are expanding. we have applied to the local council for an expansion of the factory. and that's in management and also on the ground with the workforce. so it's looking bright as i predicted a year ago.” think in the automobile industry,

especially, where i work, we are going through a huge sea change a nyway going through a huge sea change anyway with electrification and everything else. this is one other major problem that is being given to our business when it tries to plan what it does for the future. they have to invest in new technologies very quickly and very smartly. things are moving so rapidly that every day where there isn't a decision on whether there will be a border... our components transfer across the borders hundreds and hundreds of times. if we have world trade tariffs on the components than the cost of the vehicles will be put out of the reach of most people. are you worried? i am worried about it, and the jobs. i'm worried about opportunities for young people to come into the industry afterwards. if there is no opportunity forjobs because investment has been put somewhere else. i'm really concerned investment will go outside the uk because they know there is a stable platform for them to invest in those

areas. you work at crown cabinets in burnley and import a lot of wood thatis burnley and import a lot of wood that is pre—cut. what would be the ideal brexit scenario for your cabinet—making company, because you don't want to have to pay more on imports? i did more research on that and a lot of our goods are manufactured in the uk. it'sjust specific products we import and from a single manufacturer we import from in germany. i'm not worried about it at all, because the way we have created our business, we are a small and mobile business. so if we do get tariffs, in the market we are in at the moment becomes unprofitable, we have invested in a core technology where we can shift to different products and more bespoke products. you have to be able to shift and adapt in the market. ford is a

massive company, so they can afford this way more than my company can, so this way more than my company can, so they shouldn't be worried. there is nothing to worry about. so they shouldn't be worried. there is nothing to worry aboutm ta riffs is nothing to worry aboutm tariffs go up then your imports go up, then it would be as simple as readjusting your business model? we would change our product. you also need to understand that we would decide our tariffs when we leave and i recommend is that we have a zero tariff system in place. there is no reason why we shouldn't take the tariff down on non—eu and impose a tariff down on non—eu and impose a tariff on the eu when we go to our own schedule. i'm urging liam fox, international trade secretary, to do that as soon as possible. you need to know from march next year what we will be facing and i regret you have zero tariffs on imported components from the motor industry. we could even make them in this country. do you rememberwhen we even make them in this country. do you remember when we used to do that nestor unfortunately, —— do you rememberwhen we nestor unfortunately, —— do you

remember when we used to do that? u nfortu nately we remember when we used to do that? unfortunately we can't do that, and there are other places in the globe where they could move to. they will not build a new facility in the uk when there is all this uncertainty. this is a really important point, the economy and world is changing. there are big markets around the world but we don't see ourselves up to access those markets by ripping ourselves out of existing supply chains. john, you are so bullish about this, that you think pulling out and telling the eu to get stuff would be good for the country. but i don't think it would for businesses in this country. the european free trade agreement would give us an opportunity to transition to a bold new future. i don't think a second vote would solve anything. people voted for a clean break, out of the customs union. efta is out of the customs union. efta is out of the customs union. efta is out of the

customs union. but we want a clean break because that is what we voted for. that's what the remaining campaign said. sadiq khan said once we're out, we are out, that's what we're out, we are out, that's what we voted for and that's what needs to happen. the prime minister said brexit means brexit. she has backtracked, george.” brexit means brexit. she has backtracked, george. ithink brexit needs to work in the interest of the whole nation. but she has backtracked. you can't agree with heron backtracked. you can't agree with her on that. she has backtracked on loads of occasions. i think she's trying to do the hardest job loads of occasions. i think she's trying to do the hardestjob in politics. then she can't do that job then. she's trying. she hasn't finished yet. we will see what she comes back with. john seems to know what he's talking about. let me bring injohn. what he's talking about. let me bring in john. tell what he's talking about. let me bring injohn. tell people... what he's talking about. let me bring in john. tell people... it's going to end like checkmate the it is going. john, can i bring you in. tell people what you do and what would be your ideal brexit scenario? i have been listening very carefully

and want to pick up on something john said. i pick fruit and vegetables, very simply. i hope all you eat fruit and vegetables and if you eat fruit and vegetables and if you have brussels sprouts on your christmas dinner plate then i probably picked them. i also picked strawbridge. if we crashed out on march 30 next year with no transitional period, then within three weeks we will have no fruit and vegetables on english shells. because i will not have any staff, without freedom of movement. of course you will have staff. we will control our own migration policies and we are talking about seasonal worker provisions for exactly your position. it's your government and you can persuade them and we will make our own decisions and stop what is wrong with taking back control for britain's interests? i voted to leave i will stick by

that. the scheme has been launched which is great. 2500 people when i need 60,000 people. where is the shortfall going to come from? there was a big migration report yesterday. excuse me. chris morris, the big migration report yesterday. it is big onjohn's mind and others who work in agriculture. immigration was a big factor in the referendum. i would be interested to hear what our brexit bunch think about it. the government asked for opinions on what a post—brexit immigration policy should look like. it said free movement should come to an end and there should be no preference for workers from the eu in the future but we should try to encourage more high skilled workers to come from everywhere around the world, rather than low skilled workers. this was one of the

interesting quotes from the report saying that migration is not a major factor in the wages of uk workers. a lot of people think migrants come here because there are more people our wages go down. according to experts, some evidence that lower skilled workers face a negative impact but overall, interesting to know what you think, the fact there are migrant workers here does not suppress the wages of native uk born workers. did we not pick sprouts and strawberries before we went into the eu? did we not eat strawberries and sprouts? there are not enough british workers to take the place of europeans workers. most of the workforce are europeans. we want higher wages and more technology and we will be fine. a lot of people are saying we should be using welfare claimants and i totally agree.

whether hotspots are of unemployment are nowhere near geographically where workers are positive we look at kent, for instance, the biggest producer of strawberries, there is one of the lowest points of unemployment. how can i try and attract somebody to come in pics trowbridge from ten, 15, 20 miles away? —— pick strawberries. trowbridge from ten, 15, 20 miles away? -- pick strawberries. we are told, do not worry, we can get uk workers to dojobs told, do not worry, we can get uk workers to do jobs performed told, do not worry, we can get uk workers to dojobs performed by eu migrants. we have near full employment. there are not huge numbers of unemployed people to go around and even if there are they are not necessarily in the right areas. the reason why sabine's case horrified me is not because morally i find it sad that someone who has beenin i find it sad that someone who has been in this country for so many years and has given so much is choosing to leave due to uncertainty. we are facing a massive shortage of people working in children social work, keeping kids

safe and keeping kids alive. we are struggling to recruit them and keep them. the idea that social workers from the eu are going back to the european continent should worry us. my local anc would not have survived. it was really dependent on nurses from portugal. these are dependent on people from our country. i want to bring in someone who has worked in the care to. country. i want to bring in someone who has worked in the care tom clearly shows that we are going to be troubled. we were suffering to recruit and retain people in the la st recruit and retain people in the last year and it is worse for us. we have cases, we have a british girl in ourteam, we're have cases, we have a british girl in our team, we're company that don't pay the minimum wage, we paid the minimum wage and not the low... we pay, sorry... the living wage,

the minimum wage, but still we are struggling to recruit people. british people tend not to want to work in care. that is the reality. there are some jobs that a lot of people are not willing. maybe because they are low skilled jobs or, i don't know the reason, but we are struggling a lot will stop paying more than the living wage. what is wrong with that?” paying more than the living wage. what is wrong with that? i came here 19 years ago as an eu citizen. after the referendum, became an immigrant. straightaway. that made me feel unwelcome. let me talk. i have applied, i have become naturalised. that was another very horrific experience. i am onjools citizen.

what is the problem? ifi experience. i am onjools citizen. what is the problem? if i tell you my experience with the home office and the hostile environment... i was horrified. going back to the migration report, another really important fact that has not been said is that eu citizens have in fa ct said is that eu citizens have in fact contributed the net benefit per eu citizen is £23,000. no, it is 2300. that is the adult average will stop it is massive. these messages from people watching you discuss this. i self and my french wives are leaving uk in december. —— myself or she has been subjected to open xenophobia will stop i am believed for my company with brexit planning

and the issues we face will trade and the issues we face will trade and people are enormous. our daughter was told back to go to her country. in school. my daughter was ordered out of the park for speaking hungarian. we are scared to speak any other language than english on the street because we are scared. i voted to leave the eu not to remove the naming keep the perks. we have heard this. i voted for a black—and—white brexit and i will not compromise. it has been an appalling process... have to end the brexit civil war. you started it, she said. championing their own sides. we have to find a compromise. in my constituency enough that we are reliant on agriculture, haulage, ca re are reliant on agriculture, haulage, care in the nhs. bail or haemorrhage

—— they are all heavily reliant on migrant labour. if we do not —— we do not do that by crashing out next spring. we can make a decision. we do not have to get rid of people and we do not want to lose people. mac there is a net increase. you all have different experiences in different sectors. jason... i am a director of a food company, we importa director of a food company, we import a lot of stuff from all over the world. in the last couple of yea rs the world. in the last couple of years since the referendum decision, we have seen huge difficulty in finding low skilled or high skilled workforce, already before the exit has even happened. i think the reality of the situation on the

ground is, that bought a small to medium—sized business, it is more difficult to plan and try to understand the maze that is brexit and understand where we will be in a year or to macro. a lot of people arejust year or to macro. a lot of people are just coasting along and hoping for the best. —— or to macro.” are just coasting along and hoping for the best. -- or to macro. i am cautiously optimistic. what i am most fearful about is not the result that will come out at the end of it. i have some faith. i am concerned about the divisiveness and the incivility. i am over 60 and have never seen incivility. i am over 60 and have never seen this stuff, on facebook, people calling friends the worst thing is possible. people dare not say which way they voted. i have never come across this and it is like the whole process of the politicians going towards brexit is on along the whole journey with the squabbling children in the car or

juxtaposition in full something or other. we need to get there as smoothly and kindly or as nicely as possible. would it make a difference if politicians were all united question what would it set an example? —— were all united? question what would it set an example? -- were all united? we should stop using it as a weapon for power and moving ourselves into a new position. is that your message to boris johnson? it might be. i think the behaviour of the labour party has largely been about getting out the tories in conjunction with eve ryo ne out the tories in conjunction with everyone else. it has been a power a pure power play will stop nothing has been in the national interest in respect ofjeremy corbyn. jeremy corbyn will jump on respect ofjeremy corbyn. jeremy corbyn willjump on anything that will simply get rid of the tories

and brexit and the people and the referendum result is of no interest to him. i have been on your programme before. i do not pull my punches when it comes to criticising my leader when he does not do things i agree with. when you look at constituencies voting labour we represent the most remain constituencies in the country and the most leave in the country. voters in streatham and stoke on trent have very different views on this. we try to come up with a way forward to make the best of the situation. we have campaigned to remain in the european union but we are trying to get into a position where, if we were in government which we are not, if we were in government we would try to frame the debate about what temp awould look like it when managed by... —— about

what brexit would look like. are enough of you prepared to vote against whatever kind of deal the prime minister gets from brussels which could lead to a no deal, which most of you say you do not want? we do not want to know deal but we do not want to give the prime minister a blank check to make this country poorer and less safe and worse. she says if you do not vote for her deal, it is no deal. what she is saying is, it is my way or the highway. most of us think that no deal would be a total disaster, the worst possible situation. she wants a scenario where she comes back and says, my way or the highway. you wa nt says, my way or the highway. you want a second referendum. that is outrageous and the disrespect to hold for us... how can you say, on one hand, we have consent to the people when we're arguing that the people when we're arguing that the people should be given the same. you

got it wrong the first time. you insult people who voted leave, that is what you do. this is what happens when we discussed brexit. everyone gets emotional. we have to go back to what the discussion is about and thatis to what the discussion is about and that is what will be the trade arrangements and relationship. that is fundamental. take emotion and votes a nd is fundamental. take emotion and votes and take that out, michel barnier wanted to have a backstop border in northern ireland, that is something i'm interested in. he needed that because the initial conservative proposals were magical thinking. this weekend that we have michel barnier coming up with technical solutions to his backstop, which is magical thinking. both mr barnier and theresa may on her

chequers deal, which only exists due to be backstop, which is not an issue because we can deal with this with technology, they need to sit down, ditch the dogma and organiser deal about how we trade and deal with people. politicians cannot do that. we will talk about the island border with you. i work in the technology industry and i work with a myriad of technology founders, investors in technology industry and innovation ministers, so, actually, i worked directly with the eu innovation minister. we want whatever helps us as an industry and country move forward. practically, a practical discussion, in the tech industry, by very nature, we are global. we are very highly skilled. we need to do business with the eu and the rest of the world. for

example, one of the parts of the agreement is about removing the digital single market. that means the removal of e—commerce barriers, cyber security. there was the ba hack a couple of weeks ago. all of these things are important and releva nt these things are important and relevant and we will not be a part of that. secondly we need the certainty because ultimately we need to do business globally from day one. i know at least one or to macro technology start—ups who have relocated to berlin because the majority of employees work there with the skill sets. we have a big skill shortage with technology and it continues to be a problem with two thirds of the companies we have spoken to as part of a lobby group i am part of. who do you work for? i am part of. who do you work for? i am an entrepreneur. i work for

myself. do you work for the eu?” am an entrepreneur. i work for myself. do you work for the eu? i do not. i work for myself, i am british. i was raised in a couple of other countries. i worked directly with entrepreneurs and technology founders. i used to work for microsoft. can any of the politicians answer the question that has come up most this morning, when will we get certainty? you're hearing a strong demand for certainty, rightly. you will know soon, in six weeks the prime minister will come back from the summitand prime minister will come back from the summit and we will have to decide before christmas. by march, we have to have a solution. john thinks we don't and we will crash out and be fine. wes streeting thinks a second vote will solve it. i think we have to find a compromise. we got into this mess and we have to find a way out. john redwood, when do we get certainty? all talk at once

i would like us to have certainty as soon as i would like us to have certainty as soon as the blood it would be good for the prime minister to set a deadline for the talks so we can prepare for no deal properly in the next few months if there is not a deal on offer we like. but i don't think that will happen and talks will go right up to the wire by the looks of it. i am much against having another 21 months still in the eu under this so—called transition, which isn't a transition at all, is another 21 months of awful uncertainty. but it's a certainty for business. and continuing rows about what will happen. there is no guarantee we will end happen. there is no guarantee we willend up happen. there is no guarantee we will end up with a good result, so i have always said before the vote as well as abbey, prepare for no deal, that's fine, but we could get a better deal, particularly if they really believe we will leave anyway. potentially the worst thing about this is people are hoping the prime minister will come back with a deal that gives certainty for the long—term. that's not what big the negotiations are about. this stage

is only about negotiating the terms of the exit. there is no expectation there will be a long—term trade deal so there will be a long—term trade deal so in that sense we will wait a long time for certainty. that's why one of the good things that has come out of the good things that has come out of the good things that has come out of the process so far is that there is some stability through a transition period so we don't fall off a cliff edge at the end of march. it's why i find what john says so reckless. there is a cliff, john, i voted for remain, i sit on the treasury committee. forget the big numbers and the prophecies of doom, the thing i found most frightening on the treasury committee was when you get into precisely the detail that is described, things like data sharing and how you move parts from one country to another. customs arrangements, queueing at calais and dover. it's the practicalities.” wa nt to dover. it's the practicalities.” want to ask kevin... how do chinese goods getting at the moment? because there are clearly understood rules and they work with the eu. kevin

does this for a living committee has 60 trucks and has had three meetings with the transport secretary and has not been reassured by the third meeting was that can you talk to us about the potential friction that might happen after we leave in the coming weeks? i am not reassured because we want a united government and politicians to stand together to find a solution with the eu. interestingly, i'm not a brexiteer, i'm nota interestingly, i'm not a brexiteer, i'm not a remainer, interestingly, i'm not a brexiteer, i'm nota remainer, i'm a businessman. 50% of my clients are in the eu. i have been called to meetings in germany, italy, france. you want things to remain smooth between the uk and the rest of europe after much? excuse me for using the word crash out. if we do not get a deal and go to hard borders and we go to full customs formalities... what does it mean in practical terms, explain its to the audience? you have explained it

right now, you are another deluded politician who doesn't know what they are talking about. excuse me for saying that. i have lived in this world and done what i have done since i was 21. i am now 60 and i know my industry. i remember in 1982 when wejoined the know my industry. i remember in 1982 when we joined the common market and prior to that i drove for this company and am now part owner of the business and employ 104 people who rely on me for their livelihoods. they asked me what is happening. what are we going to do? we worked on the international transport business, so what will happen to the industry? my clients are asking me that. only yesterday somebody called me and asked the same question. they asked me for answers. i'm asking the government for answers. i have been to three meetings with chris grayling at the department for transport and came away with absolutely nothing. i am not a politician basher that i am a businessman who is very concerned that the clock is ticking. —— but i

ama that the clock is ticking. —— but i am a businessman. kevin, if there we re am a businessman. kevin, if there were ha rd am a businessman. kevin, if there were hard borders, what impact would it have on your business?” were hard borders, what impact would it have on your business? i can tell you 150%, because i know because i do it for a living, it would be catastrophic for british industry and the economy. explain why that is. it would. you talk about goods flying in from china and clearing customs. that is a day to day occurrence. 5000 trucks crossed the channel each way every day, 10,000 trucks in total. they would have to stop that customs... they would not have to do is stop. at the moment you have goods coming in and you need to clear vat and customs and excise... i am a businessman and have the big exporting industry as well. mr redwood, you don't need to shout at him. he is genuinely

worried and you don't need to shout. sitting in queues for six hours, ten hours and longer. how long does it ta ke hours and longer. how long does it take a truck to going to russia? please explain. john carney you just said you know more about this than he does. i know about dover. tell me how long it used to take for a truck to leave dover and shipped to france before clearing customs in france as well. please tell me because you are more knowledgeable than i am. let me tell you. dover will be under uk control when we left. i don't know of any proposals from the british government to have additional checks that will delay your trucks at dover. it's not in our interest to delay. any extra that needs to be done, for example paying customers, will be done electronically, just as vat is done. there is an automated syste m vat is done. there is an automated system of operation. there will not

be delays at dover. the factory where the goods are loaded, or will it take place at the port? if it ta kes pla ce it take place at the port? if it takes place at port, there is no infrastructure at the port for 5000 trucks to park. chris grayling, the secretary for transport, said that he hung his hat in the last meeting he hung his hat in the last meeting he had on a truck parked on the end 24 5000 trucks that would be full in two days. —— on the m20 for 5000 trucks. the auto industry is very worried if there was a hard border. it'sjustified. already this worried if there was a hard border. it's justified. already this week, bmw have announced they will move their shut down to a period just after brexit. all talk at once they do not know what the impact will be. i know they have investment

all the time going into the auto industry in new technology and everything else. aston martin ships most of its cars outside the european area. they don't actually ship many cars into europe, but most go to other areas. nissan in europe, it's very different. every car company in this country has a different way of operating. just to bring in chris morris, the reality check corresponded. just some numbers to illustrate kevin's point about the number of trucks coming through dover. its 2.6 million handled in dover in 2017. another 1.6 million using eurotunnel. it's a challenge for imports, and also for exports. if the british government decides they don't want to check things, there is an issue where a lot of stuff going across the channel is food, which comes in every day, or we export food. the

european union, and this is also a problem, as david will know from the border in ireland bag, the european union has very strict rules about food and live animals. they have particular border inspection posts for veterinary posts. at the moment calle isn't designated as one of those. there would be a problem trying to export food to europe. —— at the moment calais isn't one of those. there are technological issues that could ease some problems but it's the sheer numbers of lorries that poses the challenge compare to goods coming from china and elsewhere in the world. its small numbers of consignment going in and out every day. and medicine as well. sue says that food is being used by businesses as scaremongering. they are trying to avoid investing in people in the upcoming generations. businesses should be investing in future generations to fulfil the jobs

needing doing. visas can be used in farming to attract seasonal workers and funding should be used in the nhs. and a text who doesn't leave their name says the discussion is not to stop immigration, but to stop uncontrolled immigration. and being able to say no. because we don't have the infrastructure to cope with the influx of people coming into the country. david on e—mail says the tone of the argument by the brexiteers, that the conservative backbench mps who would like a hard brexit or more, is a real concern. we need to understand that people tend to do business with people that they like. we come across as an unpleasant country with an extremely unfriendly attitude towards any foreigners, notjust unfriendly attitude towards any foreigners, not just eu unfriendly attitude towards any foreigners, notjust eu immigrants. that's not fair! we might be already ina that's not fair! we might be already in a continual decline as a consequence in how we are viewed by the rest of the world. another

texted says they are a german citizen by birth but don't have family in germany any more. my stepmother is british and my entire family lives in the uk. i have moved into the uk in 2015 for work and all my friends and family are here. britain is my home and i hope it doesn't change after we leave the eu without a deal. what do you want the government to do in the next few months, going round each one of you. and be quick. a cross-party agreement, move forward with harmony. it's never going to happen! but that's what i want. you have given me a magic wand. that's what i want. i want reassurance, given me a magic wand. that's what i want. iwant reassurance, asi given me a magic wand. that's what i want. iwant reassurance, as i was not allowed to vote in the referendum, as none of the other eu citizens in the country did. you don't have uk passports. only in the la st don't have uk passports. only in the last few months. i would want the government to provide reassurance that there would be a people's vote with eu nationals... but you are leaving next month. yes, but a lot

of my friends are staying. david cameron went to brussels before the referendum and he couldn't get anything off them. so what do you wa nt anything off them. so what do you want this government to do? for them to crack on with no deal.” want this government to do? for them to crack on with no deal. i want a ha rd to crack on with no deal. i want a hard brexit. iwant to crack on with no deal. i want a hard brexit. i want theresa may to go out and do the right thing for my industry, the fishing industry. i wa nt to ta ke industry, the fishing industry. i want to take full control of 200 miles, not 12, and get on with it. simple asa miles, not 12, and get on with it. simple as a pimple. the thing that gets me is with this discussion, everybody looks at low resolution and immediate. when we have left, that's it. from now until whatever the next decision is. despite what we are being led to believe, the government does not create wealth, nor the bank of england, it's the people. and we have not changed and we have not lost our desire for success. first world country is not a label, it's a mindset. i want the

government to get on with a hard brexit. i would like to see a cross—party cohesive brexit. i would like to see a cross— party cohesive approach brexit. i would like to see a cross—party cohesive approach with just an ounce of business acumen would be great. i want government to show clarity so that industry can move on and start to plan.” show clarity so that industry can move on and start to plan. i agree. clarity is the most important thing. we need certainty as to what will happen. with an idea of the way forward. i now think... iwas happen. with an idea of the way forward. i now think... i was a remainer, i now think the decision has been made and let's get on with it. let's get the points across as fa st it. let's get the points across as fast as you can. i want politicians to simply stop talking our country down. we are a great country and people come here to live and work, like my parents did. at i have made the uk my home, as they did, and that's where the opportunities lie. we want people to be proud of the country and move forward together. our best days lie ahead. you can't

follow that, because i think politicians need to get together. they need to give as a brexit, we need transition and when we get there there will be lots of things to do as we go through the process of being out. i think businesses can then plan and do things. but until we getan then plan and do things. but until we get an absolute deal, there is no... there can be no plan in place. communication is their way through that. i mean... either, people who wa nt that. i mean... either, people who want hard brexit or soft brexit, they need to sit all at the table because it's the future and its british future. i want clarity and communication and away to move forward so we can continue to be the awesome, global country and a we have been seen to be. i believe we need other people's vote to vote on the terms that have

been agreed by this parliament.” just think both the eu and theresa may's men have themselves into a hole entirely of their own making andl hole entirely of their own making and i think they need to grow up, sit down at the table, sort out a. there will be a transition period because i do not think either the eu or the because i do not think either the eu orthe uk is because i do not think either the eu or the uk is ready to deal with the chaos at calais and dover. no issue on the table is uniform across the whole of the continent in terms of moving forward with trade and relationship. i think we need to move forward. the decision has been made. we need to get on with it, basically. the price of food will inevitably go up also how much are you willing to pay for your food when it happens? eat fish. absolutely. any chance of some politicians getting together in a

room and agreeing on something? yes. i think it is coming this winter. there is a very strong message from the audience. they want certainty and to leave the european union in a way that does not damage business. i think we will end up out of the customs union with access to the single market. you have made clear a number of times what you want.” still give the same advice. prepare for us leaving without the special deal with the eu. we may end up with a deal... there will be all sorts of deals. we have a complex set of relationships and we warmed towards the countries on the continent and the countries on the continent and the people living there. it is not anti foreigner. we'll carry on trading with friends and enjoy cultures. we will have very open borders. will not be stopping people

coming through. let's just borders. will not be stopping people coming through. let'sjust get on with it. i think there will be ple nty of with it. i think there will be plenty of time to plan a perfectly smooth exit without a deal. last from our brexit bunch but i think one person applauded. the problem is, the brexit that was promised cannot be delivered. on that basis, ona cannot be delivered. on that basis, on a purely democratic point of principle, people should be given a final vote on the deal and we should decide our way forward. the problem is, ijust do not see, given the arithmetic of parliament and a hung parliament, i do not see how parliament will be able to agree. i think people should be given a final say and i think we should replace chris grayling with this chap because he can sort out customs. thank you all so much to our brexit

family, our brexit bunch today. thank you so much. and to our politicians for engaging in conversation. we really appreciate it. give yourself a round of applause. just before 11 o'clock we are going to hear more from our brexit bunch to find out if the conversation has helped them in a nyway conversation has helped them in anyway and also any specific questions you have to put to chris, our reality check correspondent. you can our reality check correspondent. you ca n text our reality check correspondent. you can text and you can message us on facebook. what else is there? whatsapp as well. now for the latest weather. turbulent times ahead with the weather as the winds continued to

strengthen. amber weather warnings out in the north. it is these areas will be a likely to see damaging gusts up to 70,80 miles an hour. a few trees could be down with transport disruption likely. it is not just here transport disruption likely. it is notjust here we will see the strong wind. at the moment we are seeing wins to the west of ireland gusting around 90 miles an hour. it is on the end of storm ali. in the centre you will see the wind picking up, dell fourth in the afternoon. in the midlands and the north of england winds could gust up to 60, 70, 80 miles an hour. the rain has largely cleared. outbreaks of rain across much of scotland. heaviest and most persistent by the end of the morning will be in the north. showers working into england and wales in

the morning which will push their way southwards and eastwards. writing up in east anglia and the south—east after a bit of a great start. windy revie u r. temperature is highest in the south. —— windy wherever you are. you'll winds will remain strong in the evening. frequent showers with hail and thunder. in the south, the showers will fade to be replaced by more persistent rain in wales, south—east england and lincolnshire. cooler and mile to the south and fresher in the north. —— and mild. there will be showers, some of them heavy and most persistent in the north of scotland. this zone from the wash, in the midlands and south west will turn heavier and more persistent later and push their way into parts of

north—west england and caused minor flooding. low pressure will head across as on friday night. wet weather on friday night. blustery showers on friday. some of them will be frequent in the west, heavy with and hailand be frequent in the west, heavy with and hail and thunder. be frequent in the west, heavy with and hailand thunder. do be frequent in the west, heavy with and hail and thunder. do not forget, through the rest of the day, these are the warning areas. we'll keep you up to date with the latest on bbc news. hello. it's wednesday. it's just after 10 o'clock. i'm victoria derbyshire. six months to go before we really the eu. we will be following a group over the next few months and years. they all have one thing in common, they want clarity from politicians about the future. i think they have all handled it very wrongly. i do not think they listened to the people whatsoever. they squabbled like a load of children at school

in the playground. one wants the ball and they will not share. they are not getting on with it and i am very disappointed. the clock is ticking. there is no time to get the customs infrastructure in place, customs office rs infrastructure in place, customs officers and agents at the ports. the french have not started to put anything together regarding customs infrastructure at the other side of the channel. a hard brexit will mean disaster for british industry and the economy. people voted for a clean break. we wa nt people voted for a clean break. we want to be out of the customs union. we want a clean break because that is what we voted for. that was what was sold by david cameron. if we crash out on the 30th of march next year with no transitional period, within three weeks we will have no fruit and vegetables on english else. in the next hour, we want to hear your questions about brexit and we will try to answer them.

also today, the mayor of london launches another scheme to tackle violent crime in the capital, based on a successful one in glasgow we told you about at the start of this year. callum tells us that scheme in scotland is the reason he is still alive. i was running out of chances. i've got more lives than a siamese cat, do you know what i mean? it's just unbelievable how many times i've diced with death. we'll ask the mother of a boy who was killed on the streets of london if this is the answer. and how to clear space junk with nets and harpoons. a british satellite has for the first time successfully netted a piece of space debris. we will find out how they did it. on the remove debris mission, they will be testing the smaller brother of this one to show that we can successfully capture a piece of space debris in space using a harpoon. a little later than usual, for

obvious reasons, here isjoanna with the news. the eu's chief breixt negotiator, michel barnier, says he is willing to improve his offer to the uk over the irish border. the uk and eu both want to avoid a hard border with cameras or guard posts, but can't agree on how. his proposal comes as theresa may prepares for a meeting of eu leaders in salzburg, where she will try to win support for her brexit plan. our europe reporter, gavin lee, has more. michel barnier spent last night briefing eu ministers on the latest brexit negotiations ahead of today's summit in salzburg, where theresa may will stress that her chequers plan is the only way to avoid a no—deal, and will ask the eu to show willingness to compromise. mr barnier says eu leaders are now ready to offer an improved proposal to prevent the need for a hard border in ireland. he went further than before, stating that eu and british

officials could work together and come up with locations to carry out technical checks of goods coming to northern ireland from the rest of the uk, on sites away from ports and airports. we are clarifying which goods arriving in northern ireland from the rest of the uk would need to be checked, and where, when and by whom these checks could be performed. we can also clarify that most checks can take place away from the border. but that proposal would mean britain agreeing to the eu's so—called backstop plan, that would effectively keep northern ireland in the eu's single market and customs union, while the rest of the uk leaves. as for a new, improved proposal, that is not the kind of compromise theresa may is looking for. british officials have described it as unacceptable, and a threat to the constitutional integrity of the uk. it is unlikely to loosen the deadlock ahead of tonight's summit in salzburg. gavin lee, bbc news, brussels.

a caravan has blown off a cliff with a woman believed to be inside as high winds from storm ali batter the west of ireland. police and emergency services are at the scene in county galway. the woman is thought to be in herfifties. storm ali is the uk's first named storm of the season. an amber, "be prepared", weather warning is in force in northern ireland, scotland and northern england, and heavy rain is forecast. £2 billion of new funding to build affordable and social housing in england will be announced by the government later. housing associations and local authorities will be able to bid for money to spend on projects after 2021. the national housing federation, which represents housing associations in england, says the announcement is "extremely welcome". our news correspondent, dan johnson has more. there is still not enough of this going on. there aren't enough of these going up. now, the prime minister believes

housing associations can help. so they will get £2 billion secure funding for long—term planning over the next decade, so more affordable homes get built. and theresa may will address what she calls the stigma that still clings to social housing. she will talk of residents feeling marginalised and looked down upon by others, including politicians. mrand mrs parkerapplied to buy their house... a different conservative prime minister gave council house tenants the right to buy their homes. those who could afford it did. many of those who couldn't were stuck on estates neglected and decaying. morning, morning. david cameron rebooted the policy, and tried to extend it. but the labour party says funding has been cut, and numbers of new social rented homes are lower than ever. we have heard plenty of talk of building more homes before, but it is a difficult issue. the money isn't always there.

the bricks and mortar don't always follow. dan johnson, bbc news. four million people have been charged more than they need to for their mobile phones according to research by citizen's advice bureau. it says three of britain's biggest mobile phone networks — ee, 3 and vodafone — routinely carry on charging customers for their handsets after the cost has been paid off. the industry regulator, ofcom says it has set out plans to force companies to tell customers when their minimum contract ends. the leaders of north and south korea have signed a declaration with the goal of ridding the peninsula of nuclear weapons. the president of south korea, moonjae—in, has been on a three day visit to pyongyang and said both leaders wanted to eliminate the risk of war. they also discussed plans to allow family reunions and co—host the 2032 olympics. more than 5 million children are at risk of famine in yemen, as the ongoing war increases food and fuel prices, according to the charity save the children.

it said disruption to supplies coming through the embattled port of hodeida could cause starvation on an unprecedented scale. save the children say two thirds of yemen's population already don't know where their next meal is coming from. a british satellite has for the first time successfully thrown a net into orbit to demonstrate how to capture a piece of space debris. there are millions of items of space junk floating around the earth, which pose a risk to operational spacecraft and satellites. scientists say this experimental clean up operation will have to become routine if we want to keep exploring and using space. tv host and comedy writer denis norden has died aged 96. his family said he passed away after spending weeks at the royal free hospital in north london. the presenter was famed for his dry delivery and for holding a clipboard, as he introduced bloopers and outtakes on it'll be alright on the night. let's get some sport now.

holly hamilton is at the bbc sport centre. it was one of those special champions league nights at anfield as liverpool left it very late to beat paris saint germain, but it was a different story for tottenham who'll still be wondering how they lost to inter milan at the san siro, as andy swiss reports. another spine—tingling roar. would it be another special night? anfield hoped, and their heroes soon obliged. daniel sturridge's first champions league start in six years. talk about an impact. paris st germain boast the two priciest players in history, but both neymar and kylian mbappe were wayward and psg were all at sea. a penalty converted by james milner. liverpool in dreamland. but then a bolt from the blue. thomas meunier pulled one back at the break. it was breathless stuff. the second half was no different. with ten minutes left, psg thought they'd snatched a draw as mbappe ruthlessly levelled it up. but deep in stoppage time,

the fairy tale finish, as roberto firmino fired liverpool to a 3—2 win. drama, glory... just your average anfield night. earlier, tottenham began their campaign at inter milan where they seemed to be heading for three points. christian eriksen's first effort kept out, but not his second. hardly pretty, but spurs were hardly bothered. in truth, they should have had more. and how they'll wish they had. with five minutes left, mauro icardi's volley giving inter the most spectacular of equalisers. suddenly tottenham were clinging on. deep into injury time they capitulated. matias vecino headed inter into a 2—1victory. spurs will be wondering quite how they lost. a first night drama they could have done without. andy swiss, bbc news. the chair of uk sport, dame katherine grainger, has added her voice to calls for russia to remain banned from world athletics.

the world anti—doping agency's executive committee is expected to end a three—year suspension of russia's anti—doping agency when they meet on thursday. the move has been criticised by athletes, anti—doping bodies and now the most powerful figure in british olympic and paralympic sport. grainger says... "the integrity of sport and competition has to be protected to maintain public trust and support. this responsibility rests with leaders at every level. ben stokes and alex hales will find out today if they've been selected for england's one day squad for the tour of sri lanka. yesterday both men were charged with bringing the game into disrepute after an incident outside a nightclub in bristol. they'll face a disciplinary hearing in december. and remember the england netball squad's incredible victory in the final against australia at the commonwealth games? well, today, the two sides will face each other in a rematch of that nailbiter on the gold coast

— this time in the quad series with tracey neville's squad chasing their first ever title at this event. that match starting in newcastle, australia, ataround 10:30am. we'll be bringing you the latest throughout the morning. the mayor of london is today launching a new scheme to try and tackle violent crime across the capital. sadiq khan 5 new violence reduction unit aims to bring together public health and local government to try and tackle the causes of violence. the new strategy will invest £500,000 and will build on the work of the knife crime strategy he set up injune 2017. sadiq khan took over as mayor in 2016, and all violent crime has gone up in london in that time. between 2015 and 2018, there has been a 21% increase in violent crimes reported to the police in london. there were 96 murders in the year

ending august 2015 and 136 murders in the year ending august 2018. the number of robberies reported across the capital rose by 52% in that time. and the number of offences involving a knife also rose by 52% across london between 2015 and 2018, to more than 14,500 in the year ending march 2018. what's being luanched in london mirrors a similar scheme in glasgow which we first reported on at the beginning of this year. it's helped to reduce the rate of violent crime over the last decade. here's our reporter louis lee ray meeting callum who was helped out of a life of violence by the scottish scheme. i remember getting brought home by the police when i was 13 years of age. it was for gang fighting and having an offensive weapon.

and thatjust seemed normal for where i was from. and what kinds of things were you doing? assaults, robbing and rioting, carrying offensive weapons. breach of the peaces. continuously getting myself in bother with the police. you have been injured a lot, i think, in fights. i've lost count. that gives you some sort of pointer for how many times i have been in accident and emergency. i've nearly had my arm severed off. i've been stabbed in the head, have had fractured skulls. been stabbed in the back, punctured lungs. cou ntless, cou ntless ti mes. it's amazing i'm still alive, to be honest with you. it's all fear—driven. you carry a knife because of fear. then you have the fear that you've got a knife on you. it's just riddled with ten different forms of fear. i've been in and out of a&e for a long time.

i hadn't met anybody in there who said to me, have you had enough of that lifestyle you are leading? we can show you how to maybe step away from that. and that's what happened. because i reached the moment for me where i had a desire to change. and i grabbed it with both hands, because i kind of knew that i was running out of chances. i've got more lives than a siamese cat, do you know what i mean?! it's just unbelievable, how many times that i've diced with death. i knew if i didn't make a change then then my days were probably numbered in that lifestyle. whatever happens in england and wales, for callum, things are working out. he is now part of another of the violence reduction unit's programmes, street & arrow, which provides employment, mentoring and support to offenders with violent pasts on this food truck. i wanted to be a role model to my children. i didn't want to be running about leading that life i was leading any more. my life, it's night and day. i was a guy whose life

was totally unmanageable, involved in a lot of chaos, violence, didn't know where i was going in life. i used a look at people and go, they know where they are going, they know what they are doing with their life. i don't know what i'm doing with my life. and i come here and get a purpose. and there's nothing more rewarding at the end of the day, when you have done an honest day's work. just the satisfaction from that is amazing. when i'm leaving my house in the morning, waving my kids off, and coming to work. and then when i'm finished i'm going in the house and my son is there waiting on me and all of that, i'm responsible, you know what i mean? there isn't anything that beats that. i don't even know if i'd be alive. so it has literally saved my life. and it's saved other people's lives. the ripple effect this has, with just engaging with me, is massive. it's helped my son, it's helped my daughter, it's helped my mother. it's helped everybody in my community. because callum isn't running about trying... getting involved in violence any more, you know what i mean? so, the impact it has is massive. that was our report from january

this year. let's speak now to: sophie linden, deputy mayor of london for policing and crime; will linden, deputy director of the violence reduction unit in glasgow; sephton henry, former gang member and now an intervention worker for gangsline; and keesha mcleod. her 14—year—old son, coreyjunior davis, was killed in a shooting just over a year ago. thank you for coming on the programme. can you tell our audience what happened to your boy? my son was killed on monday, the 4th of september at 3pm in a playground, which is about two minutes away from my father's home. he was sat on a wall and a my father's home. he was sat on a walland a carcame my father's home. he was sat on a wall and a car came up and let out shots and my son was fatally shot in his head. how do you cope with that? by his head. how do you cope with that?

by speaking out in regards to what's actually occurred, because i could never imagine that i would be here sitting with you now having this kind of conversation. and the fact i am no longer raising my son is what spurs me on because me and my son had a very good relationship and good understanding. but what was going on in that area was the problem. for me it was about having support, what was going on in that area, and what happened to my son, i am still in disbelief to this day. sophie linden, the deputy mayor of london for policing and crime. how will this scheme in london work and will this scheme in london work and will it stop the killings?” will this scheme in london work and will it stop the killings? i really hope that by setting up this unit we can add to the capacity and take better action and longer term action to make sure mothers don't suffer like keisha has. i have met many

victims of murder, and their families, and we want to build on the work that has already taken place. the met police are taking enforcement action, there is investment in youth services to ensure there are activities for young people to do. but what needs to happen now is a long—term strategic approach. you are putting £500,000 in, that it?! it's half £1 million to set up the unit. that's on top of £140 million to the metropolitan police. the youth fund is £45 million of money going into communities in london and already a lot the money is out of the door to support parents and families. to make sure that long—term preventative work is happening. we saw the example from glasgow. what will happen in london as a result of this unit? this new unit will build on the work already happening. in

practical terms it means that when i go out into communities and talk to local authorities, they ask me what is working, where does it work and how can we do that here. this unit will bring those programmes and actions together, that are already working, and spread it through training, leadership and ensure good practices spread. just to be clear, are you approaching this kind of crime as a public health matter, which is what the scotland example does? i have been up to scotland, i have spoken to will about the really good work undertaken in glasgow and across scotland. this took or than ten years, it was set up more than ten years, it was set up more than ten years, it was set up more than ten years ago in scotland and it will take a long time in london to get a step change. but in terms of what will make a difference in london, it is enforcement and long—term preventative activities, working with families and communities and in hospitals and schools. keisha, what does it sound like to you? i welcome this

approach, because all those approaches, those sectors and apartments, that's what's needed. prevention is better than cure, we need to look at the problems and roots. we look at what is taught in schools and the safety of children in schools. my son was a child who had adhd. he had aspects of disruptive behaviour. we can't look at that as always labelling the child and then thinking exclusion is necessary when it is disruptive and pa rt necessary when it is disruptive and part of their illness. we have to to look at what services we are looking at in the people referral units. what safety measures do we look at in these units because we can'tjust put them in a box and leave them. will linden, deputy director of the violence reduction unit in glasgow. they are doing the same here, so it's a great compliment to you. will it's a great compliment to you. will it work in london like it has in glasgow? there is no reason to think

otherwise. it's a question of how we apply what we have done in scotland to london. it's not about copying what we have done, because we have done it initially within a glasgow context and then the whole of scotland. to do so, lift and lay it, you would have problems. you have to learn from not only we have done but from other areas of the world. that's what we did, we looked at best practices across the world and then adapted it to glasgow, edinburgh and dundee contexts. it's notjust edinburgh and dundee contexts. it's not just about doing a violence reduction unit, its about what you do next. as a former gang member and is now an intervention worker, how do you react to this new violence reduction unit being set up in the capital? i'm the voice of the people. i just want to say that if we put this through, it needs to be the right people in power to do it.

because if it's not the right people in power to do it, then it's not going to have the same effect. in glasgow, the majority of people that are white but in london, the majority of people there are black. we are talking about black kids. the thing is, racism and discrimination is public health problem. it's also a mental health problem. economic suppression, post—traumatic slave syndrome, inferiority complexes, they all have to be tackled. and we have got to understand, as the black community, that it is a damage on our minds, and that is the problem. that is part of the problem. there are so many that is part of the problem. there are so many different factors to the situation. that is one thing we must

look at, the fact we are dealing with children. stop looking at stereotypes are the only being a certain select of children. that happens in different areas. in my area, it is notjust black children, there are asian and white was we have to factor all areas. what she is true. we have to educate our own. that is the other side. we have to give correct ways of teaching, not just to know you are a black child going through this. it has to be a community venture. in most communities it is black populated where these situations are taking place. we have to look at that. when i was going through this situation, lam i was going through this situation, i am looking out, this is what is going on here, how do i not let this affect me question if it is not the fa ct affect me question if it is not the fact that my son is involved in a gang, which he is not... it is outside influences. i would have to

ta ke outside influences. i would have to take him out of that environment. housing did not do what was adequate and necessary. that is a big factor. with regard to behavioural needs, you are putting him in a box making him feel like he is doing wrong for something he cannot really control. it is putting him somewhere that is not for him. let me ask sophie, how long to people in the capital have to wait till the rate of murder start to decrease? the metropolitan police is already taking effective enforcement action. the mayor has put millions of pounds into a violent crime task force. the rate of crime is beginning to fall. with regard to how long it will take to ta ke regard to how long it will take to take effect, it will take a long—term strategy and long—term action. all the complexity of what we talked about today shows how entrenched some of the difficulties

are. thank you for coming in. i appreciate it. a british satellite has successfully deployed a net in orbit to demonstrate how to capture space debris. it's the first experiment of its kind and it took place more than 300 km above the earth. it was part of a series of trials that will showcase different technologies to remove all the redundant hardware and junk now circling the earth. around 7,500 tonnes is said to be drifting aimlessly overhead and it poses a collision hazard. there are now millions of discarded pieces of metal and other materials in orbit — everything from old rocket segments to accidentally dropped astronaut tools. the fear is that if we don't soon start taking this litter out of the sky, it'll become a significant threat to active satellites. from old bits of rocket to small tools dropped by spacewalking astronauts, there is more than 7,500 tons of space junk littering earth's orbit. there is so much, this rubbish

could cause problems for our gps systems, phone and television signals, and the systems we use to predict the weather. so scientists have devised this satellite, called remove debris. launched injune, it has now successfully fired a net and captured a piece of rubbish. the idea now — that the junk will burn up when dragged back to earth. but the net isn't the only cleaning method the satellite has to test. next up is the on—board harpoon. this is the harpoon that we've been developing, and on the remove debris mission, they're going to be testing the kind of smaller brother of this one, to show that we can successfully capture a piece of space debris in space using a harpoon. some had questioned whether the problem of spacejunk could really be solved by adding more devices to the earth's orbit, but these early results suggest low—cost techniques such as these

could work, though this project is still at an early stage, and more tests need to be done before it can be used to collect every piece of rubbish. laura foster, bbc news. let's talk to richard teague, the station manager at surrey university. —— duke. station manager at surrey university. -- duke. for this mission we are trying to demonstrate technology gossip to do that we are taking a couple of cube satz up as test 5 pa ce taking a couple of cube satz up as test spacejunk. taking a couple of cube satz up as test space junk. you check it out and try to catch it with a net. we object the menus and net to capture the space debris. what about the once you have failed to capture? we have only attempted one and it has

successful. how difficult is it? it is really difficult. the net is made ina bus is really difficult. the net is made in a bus and it is really difficult. when you are in space you have no gravity in notepad. the dynamics and how everything works is very different. —— gravity in no air. that is the first experiment which has been successful. then we move on to other spammers like the harpoon. this is a bit of a sample of spacecraft, this is what spacecraft are normally made off with this aluminium structure. you can see test firings from the harpoon we did on the ground. and, when it is in orbit, what happens? very similar to the net, hopefully, we release this target on a long, carbon fibre boom

and we will fire the harpoon to make sure the harpoon hits the target and make sure that is a viable way to deal with space debris. you say this is successful but you must be really excited it has worked. i know it is just one. the implications are massive, aren't they? for our satellites, we are getting every day what we call alerts. this is when it's of debris are coming close to our satellite. —— bits of debris. they are having to move the satellite out of the way the debris. it is becoming very dangerous because this debris is moving around 75,500 miles an hour. even with tiny debris, it is catastrophic. how would we notice satellites being knocked out by debris? would it affect mobile phones and wi—fi signals? any technology like gps,

mobile satellites, tv satellites broadcasting your tv and also the things we do not normally see bike or your mapping and crop analysis and things like that, which are all done from space. if you lose your satellite you cannot do that. who has paid for this? it is a european commission funded project. so, european taxpayers? european taxpayers fund it and at the university really do large consortium of engineers all over europe to make this happen. —— we lead a large consortium. thank you. holly is back with the sport.

there was late drama at anfield as liverpool opened their champions league campaign with a win. they had been leading paris st germain 2—0 before the french side fought back to level. however substitute roberto firmino grabbed a winner in stoppage time. meanwhile, tottenham manager mauricio pochettino says they deserved much more from their 2—1 champions league defeat away to inter milan last night. spurs conceded two late goals, but pochettino said it was their best performance of the season. ben stokes and alex hales will find out today if they've been selected for england's one day squad for the tour of sri lanka. yesterday both men were charged with bringing the game into disrepute after an incident outside a nightclub in bristol. and england's netball squad will face australia in their second quad series match later this morning. the hosts will be seeking revenge after their defeat to england in the final of the commonwealth games in april. that's all the sport for now. more on the bbc news channel throughout the day. so let's return to our brexit bunch —

they have given up more than two hours of their wednesday morning to be with us today. 14 people who've agreed to let us follow them over the next few months and years — as it becomes clearer — maybe — what the impact of brexit is going to be on their lives and the lives of people like them. we spoke tojune, she auctions fish in lowestoft, who wants us to get out of the eu asap, to bindi who works in tech and wants the deal the pm negotiates to be put to the people of the uk in a second vote. les works in a car plant and is worried jobs like his could go overseas, and to sabine, who's german and leaving the uk in a matter of weeks because she's had enough. david thinks the border issue

of northern ireland and ireland can be settled, but kevin who runs a haulage company is really worried about the impact of border controls on his livelihood. reality check correspondent chris morris is still here to answer any questions they've got, and any questions you've got. we'll so had three politicians here earlier. —— we also had. —— we also had. from sylvia: i just want to find out if leaving the eu will leave non eu migrants worse off and will it affect our rights to naturalization as british citizens. ? people who are already in this country but not from the eu. it

should not. what is interesting is, in general, what will happen to immigration after brexit. there will probably be fewer europeans coming which ironically means for people voting for brexit it is likely there will be more people coming in for the —— from the rest of the world than there are now. any more questions for chris? i absolutely agree. as you probably have gathered, brexit is a huge human rights issue affecting so many people. i was born into what is now the european union. jake is looking bewildered and horrified at you saying it is a human rights issue. why was that expression on your face? why is it a human rights issue? did we not have human rights before? the

issue? did we not have human rights before ? the changing? issue? did we not have human rights before? the changing? why don't you let sabine answer. if i am before? the changing? why don't you let sabine answer. if! am being racially abused because of being german weather is a human rights issue for me. that is racial discrimination, for example, if families are being torn apart, that isa human families are being torn apart, that is a human rights issue. there is so much uncertainty. we have been in limbo for 817 days. do you have sympathy for her? if there is an abuse, that is a criminal offence. that is dealt with in—laws that already exist. we will deal with those issues. there is a lot of emotion around there some people will be taking different attitudes. reports at the weekend of a french journalist who has taken his british passport and is moving to the uk permanently. we will see ebbs and

flows, people deciding is not for them and many deciding because they think they want the freedoms that britain has. bearing in mind we are on at10:45am and britain has. bearing in mind we are on at 10:45am and warning and some words are particularly offensive, what kind of racist abuse have you been subjected to? please choose your words carefully. just plain references to 1945, that is standard, to the third rights and nazi germany. you are saying this is since the vote? people tend to shut with that out of arguments. is there evidence that hate crime has gone up towards people like sabine since the boat two years ago? there were studies done about people from eastern europe and there was

evidence it had gone up a little bit, no dramatic increase but anecdotally you hear from a lot of people who say, and let's face is tiny minority people in this country who will make comments like that but maybe the maybe the atmosphere, the divisive, political atmosphere, gives some people the impression they were more free to make those comments. most people do not think like that. the french attacked our fishermen two weeks ago. so, what is that question they were throwing flares and stones onto fishing boats. one of the worst abuses i had when i was demonstrating against nigel farage miss losing dashes are misusing the fishermen in which double... we were there defending the transitional period. the uk national government has a lot

to a nswer the uk national government has a lot to answerfor, the uk national government has a lot to answer for, but instead of holding government... roux you can go back to the eu so you will be all right then. it's very easy to blame the eu for it. maybe this is something to fact check, so what has that eu done for the uk? what kind of money has flowed from the eu to the uk? money that was ours anyway. there has been a lot of eu investment in the uk, especially in poorer regions of the uk, although places that still voted to leave like cornwall and wales. overall we put more money into the eu budget then we get back out of it. one of then we get back out of it. one of the reasons for that is we want to encourage economic development in places like poland, hungary, romania, because if they are the more developed than they will do

more developed than they will do more trade for us. you're kind of making an investment for the future. it's difficult to say that there is an absolute balance of here is what we got out of it. but one thing we do get out of it, as people like kevin will know, is the guarantee of open borders for business. it's not a lwa ys open borders for business. it's not always useful to try and put a figure or number on it. it's also about the way we trade and do business. obviously on the panel there are different views about whether it has been good or not. my main concern is food. if we leave the regulatory aligned mint, everything being the same in terms of standards and regulations and so on, and start importing food from places like the us where genetically modified crops are used and chicken is bleached etc, will it mean food is bleached etc, will it mean food is cheaper here but off a lower standard? to begin with, under legislation, we will import all the rules and regulations into uk law,

so regulations on food safety and everything will stay the same. after that, it is then a sovereign choice of the uk parliament so do you want to start repealing the laws and changing rules and regulations? if you take the chequers plan of theresa may then it will be difficult to do that because she talks about a common rule book with the eu on goods and food so there will be limited ways to do that. but if you want to do a free—trade deal with the united states in the future, it's not just with the united states in the future, it's notjust is going to be americans and say, this is what we want, they will ask for things as well and they are bigger than we are. a lot of their businesses will wa nt are. a lot of their businesses will want better access into the uk for food, and they do have different standards with things like chlorinated chicken and gm 0 crops. we will have to make a decision as a country, do we want to have lower or different standards, whatever you wa nt to different standards, whatever you want to call it. that will be up to parliamentarians. should it not be up parliamentarians. should it not be up to consumers? well, consumers vote for people in the end. but it is part of the national

conversation. if it is a way to bring prices down and consumer choice will win out. we do import a decent proportions of the ethnic food we sell. what is your view on this in terms of food prices? we should be proud of the level of food safety standards we have in this country. whether that is through the eu or ourown doing. country. whether that is through the eu or our own doing. i don't think that we should weaken those rules. i think it's important, consumer choice is important, however, the safety and standards of the food we eat are paramount, really, and i don't think we should give in on that front. the other point worth making, we import on a daily basis is roughly a third of our food from the european union. it comes back to, everybody wants it, but we need to, everybody wants it, but we need to have these open borders. will they not sell it to us now? who will they not sell it to us now? who will they sell it to? is not necessarily that they won't sell it, but there

are delays at the borders. if they wa nt are delays at the borders. if they want to sell their lettuces out to us, then... june, you can't have a go at chris! obviously they will still send food over here.” go at chris! obviously they will still send food over here. i have a question for you. you are very passionate about the fishing industry, so you want control over british waters. fishing will be part of the bigger negotiations. as you probably know, we sell about £1 billion worth of fish produce to the european union, they are a big market for our producers. you know what the eu will say, if you want access to our market, we want access to your waters. there will be eight temptation to negotiate. we will catch herring off my coast, tonnes of stuff because it is there, and we will send it to china. we don't have to rely on the eu. they are more worried about... they want our fish. what about parts of the fishing

industry that don't want to send to china, they want to send fresh produce across the channel to france. they want our fish. i trade with holland now. trade is between two people. no government has got to teach me how to trade. i know how to trade, it's what i do for a living. they need us a lot more than we need them. do you think the eu is dependent on british fishery? jess on twitter says, i'm not a business person, i don't employ anybody, but iam person, i don't employ anybody, but i am concerned about the implication of brexit, especially what a note deal would have for me. including things like pet passport and the european health cards. a lot of people asking about the practical stuff. the european health cards come if theresa may comes back with a deal in the next few weeks and that deal goes through then there is a21 that deal goes through then there is a 21 months transition period after leaving next march. during that time

everything would stay the same. after that, from the end of 2020 onwards, we don't yet know whether those european health insurance cards will continue. the government says it wants it to continue come but one of the big frustrations about a lot of brexit, you keep coming across the sentence, it depends what is negotiated. there is no guarantee the european health insurance cards will continue.” always buy my insurance before i leave. its £12 for two weeks. it's not horrific. some people don't do that. what do you mean they can't afford it? and drivers licenses as well, that's another thing. the eu, from a paper they released in january this year, they say they will not recognise uk driving licence is when we come out of the eu. and financial services. if you try to take a lot of stuff to

europe, the lorry is goods, but the driver provides a service. at the moment in the chequers plan, the prime minister wants rules on goods to be closely aligned but be very separate on services. the question is how do those drivers drive the stuff across. it sounds mad and you think they can surely sort it out, but the technical detail of doing it ta kes but the technical detail of doing it takes time. it's not about what that uk wants. it's what the eu says will happen. it's in the white paper. they are bullies. they are bullying is because they are frightened other countries will leave. that's all they are doing. they are worried sick. if we start getting better tread than other people will start looking. on the front row. what about the financial services? the uk and london, until about about the financial services? the uk and london, untilabout a about the financial services? the uk and london, until about a week ago was the number one world financial

centre. banks on a global basis are leaving and setting up shop in the eu. they are never coming back. the question is, what about passporting? so financial services here will have to get a passport to work and have their businesses run across the eu. it's no big deal! practically, how will we get banking and our money in the eu? let's be practical about this. you are right to say it will be losing services into the eu. london has always reinvented itself. everybody said the big bang would be the end of london and it wasn't. i would have less concern for london than other parts of the country that have less ability to adapt. taking a financial services, and coming back to the point of trade services, financial services are roughly 7% of the economy. agriculture is 1%.

fishing is about a 0.1%. if they all go intoa fishing is about a 0.1%. if they all go into a pot in the negotiation, which are the ones that will be defended most strongly? that is the fearfor defended most strongly? that is the fear for the defended most strongly? that is the fearfor the smaller defended most strongly? that is the fear for the smaller industries. are they sold down the river at the last minute? jane, did you have a question. i didn't, but i can chip in any time! my apologies, i thought you did. this is from and it who says uk nationals living in the eu are being ignored in these discussions. will our pensions be operated each year and will pensioners' health care be paid by the uk government? this is a really complicated area and more than a million brits live elsewhere in the eu and it's a pretty important thing. on health care, nothing is agreed until everything is agreed, but the proposal is that if you live in spain, for example, then your health care would be guaranteed in

spain, but no longer guaranteed if you went across the board to france, as it is now. it would be specific to the country where you live. as for pensions being uprated along the lines of the cost of living, at the moment it comes back to my least favourite sentence, it depends what is negotiated. at the moment the government says it wants to negotiate reciprocal deals where pensions automatically go up of inflation, but it is not guaranteed at the moment. that's why for a lot of brits elsewhere in the eu, there isa of brits elsewhere in the eu, there is a concern of whether they can afford to live in the country they have made their home. do you think we will get brexit in name only?fi depends what you mean by brexit in name only. theresa may was quoted this week as saying, it's my deal or no deal. i don't think that is true. what is happening at the moment is that the negotiating at the moment is how we leave, the terms of the divorce. the negotiation on where we go in the future and what trading

relationship we will have in the future, it is coming around at the moment but only starts in earnest the day after we leave because legally the eu cannot negotiate with us until that happens. you could say that my deal is chequers, but who will be the prime minister in a year? we could potentially stay in the single market. we could leave and have a free trade deal without any relationship with the single market at all. it kind of depends what you mean by brexit in name only. so it's total disk and bob elation all—round? only. so it's total disk and bob elation all-round? that seems like a good base to end the programme. -- totally discombobulated all— round.” think this will continue for years. we have 30 seconds until the end of the programme. very quickly. has there been any surety on bringing people in who have skills to help us? the report yesterday from the migration advisory committee said they wanted more high skilled workers to come in. thank you so

much again. will you come back? thank you! is that a yes from all of you? yes! but you are going to germany next month. we appreciate your time. and thank you to chris morris. these are the latest arrests, in excess of 50 mph. there is a warning in force for much of scotland and northern ireland where we could see gusts of 60 to 75 mph. those are

damaging and destructive winds, they will continue in towards lunchtime and the early part of this afternoon. away from the north—west, some fairly strong winds elsewhere across the uk, north wales, northern england. those gusts up to 40 or 50 mph. some rain moving south and east was. brighter skies in the south east and north of england. still quite sure across scotland. some temperatures, 19 to 23 degrees. this is bbc news i'mjoanna gosling. these are the top stories developing at 11. the eu's chief brexit negotiator says it is "ready to improve"

its offer on the irish border, ahead of a meeting of eu leaders in salzburg this evening. most checks can take place away from the border. at company premises or in the markets. we need to dejohnette ties the checks that are needed. a woman has died after the caravan she was in was blown off a cliff in the west of ireland. an amber warning is in force for parts of the uk as storm ali sweeps in with high winds and heavy rain. the prime minister will pledge £2 billion to build new homes in england, and says she wants to remove the "stigma" of social housing.