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today at 5pm, eu leaders dismiss the prime minister's plans for brexit, and warn time is running out for a deal. the head of the european council says theresa may's proposals won't work, because they risk undermining the single market. everybody shared the view that while there are positive elements in the chequers proposal, the suggested framework for economic cooperation will not work. the prime minister admits there's still hard bargaining to be done, but insists her proposals are the only "serious and credible" way forward. there's a lot of work to be done, and we will be doing that, obviously, over the next few weeks. and what will continue to drive me will be delivering for the british people. i'm christian fraser and it's fair to say this summit has not gone to theresa may's plan. we'll have all the latest reaction, including from westminster.
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the other main stories on the bbc news at 5pm: the world anti—doping agency lifts its ban on russia, imposed over the scandal surrounding state—sponsored cheating. there's a damning verdict on this summer's rail chaos, as a report finds "nobody took charge," as new timetables disrupted hundreds of services. and lily allen, noel gallagher and the arctic monkeys are among the heavyweight contenders for tonight's prestigious mercury prize. it's 5pm. our top story is that the eu summit in salzburg has ended, with theresa may continuing to insist that her proposals for brexit are the only way forward.
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let's go to my colleague christian fraser, who's in salzburg. hello from salzburg. theresa may might have expected pushback but you might have expected pushback but you might have expected in october. last night to machine ten minutes, her first opportunity to present her chequers proposal to them. but we got from the press conferences in last yours was a universal rejection of that plan from the european union. downing street has spoken in the last few minutes in saying they're not very happy with the reaction from the european european union of southlake. in the words of one official "of throwing an elbow." and perhaps theresa may would have been able to resist that play from her colleagues were that she does not have the support of her own
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party. there are remainers that reject the chequers proposal, there are brexiteers that reject it outright. the latest mike penning. he sat in the daily telegraph that as far as he concerned, chequers was "dead as a dodo." nonetheless, theresa may came out to her press conference in a fairly bullish mood. she said her plan was the only plan on the table to avoid a hard border between northern ireland and the republic. the only proposal on the table at the moment that will deliver on that frictionless movement of goods across the table is the proposal that we have put forward in the white paper. so, yes, concerns have been raised. i want to know what those concerns are. there's a lot of hard work to be done. but i believe that there is a willingness to do a deal. but let nobody be in any doubt that, as i've always said, you know, we are preparing for no deal so that
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if we get to the position where it is not possible to reach a deal, then the british people could be confident that we will have done what is necessary to ensure we make a success of leaving the european union, regardless of the terms on which we do so. and have the chances of no dealjust gone up? we are continuing to work for a good deal. i think you will have heard both president tusk and a number of the eu leaders saying that they are looking and working to that good deal, but there's a lot of work to be done. problem is that nobody here really believes that the uk is ready for a new deal. mark rutter, of the netherlands... perhaps those people theresa may was looking for some copper mines but
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donald tusk, when he came up for his press c0 nfe re nce , donald tusk, when he came up for his press conference, stood full square behind european commission negotiator michel barnier. he said there would be no withdrawal agreement without a technically operational asked up in the namely that in a deal, the other set of negotiation, northern ireland would remain in the customs union and within large parts of the single market. take a listen. we reconfirmed that there will be no withdrawal agreement without a solid, operational and legally binding irish backstop, and we continue to fully support michel barnier in his efforts to find such a model. second, we agreed to have a joint political declaration that provides as much clarity as possible on the future relations. everybody shares the view that while there are positive elements in the chequers proposal, the suggested framework for economic cooperation will not work, not least because it risks undermining the single market.
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third, we also discussed the timetable for further negotiations. the moment of truth for brexit negotiations will be the october european council. we have a very tight timetable now. two weeks to the end of the month and then two weeks until the october summit. in donald tusk‘s words, "a punch line in october. as what do you see —— do not be surprised if that timeslips again. let us go to vicky young in westminster. warm words for theresa may as they try to pf°p up words for theresa may as they try to prop up before the party conference. but we heard today was a rejection
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of the claims she's put on the table. absolutely. they have not given the warm words are the hope she would have hoped for. they have given a kick in the shins, really, haven't they? and she did not look happy in that press conference. she looked flustered. she was angry too. a little earlier, i spoke to another one of those here in her own party, jacob rees mogg, does not back her so—called chequers plan. he says he was not the least surprised what happened at the summit. well, so far in the negotiations, every time the eu has dug its heels in, it's got what it's wanted. so you could understand why, from a tactical point of view, the eu has been quite stubborn. i think the time has come for mrs may to say, "this is not going to work. chequers has not landed where i thought it would." we need to go back to the lancaster house speech, back to doing a trade deal that's deliverable and can be passed into law. the house of commons would be sympathetic to it. but if we leave on world trade organisation terms,
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that's not the end of the world. it has to be said, jacob reese mogg is in it has to be said, jacob reese mogg isina it has to be said, jacob reese mogg is in a minority in parliament that leaving on wto rules would be ok and that he could live with it. we heard from theresa may that all sides are still pushing for a deal. let's discuss this a little bit more. i am joined by a labour mp... discuss this a little bit more. i am joined bya labour mp... what do discuss this a little bit more. i am joined by a labour mp... what do you make of what has happened in salzburg today? the fundamentals have not changed. we knew the european union were unlikely duke ce ntre european union were unlikely duke centre proposals. —— to accept or proposals. we know jacob centre proposals. —— to accept or proposals. we knowjacob reese mogg and the hard right of her party would not accept her proposals either because seeking this very clean break, extreme break in our relationship with the european union, people like me don't like proposals because essentially they
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cover 20% of the economy but leave out 80% of our economy, services. ultimately, your viewers, nobody... they did not vote for this mess and they do not think it was going to go like this. we were told we would definitely have a deal. we were not told we would have a warty billion pound divorce bill, which is what we are looking at and we were told we can have all the economic benefits without the obligations. and the eu has said, "no, that is likely to happen." has said, "no, that is likely to happen. " i do has said, "no, that is likely to happen." i do not see how in the intimate resolve the way in which we leave the european union other than actually referring it back to our viewers, the people, to make a determination. because it is a real mess. but lots of people will say thatis mess. but lots of people will say that is not accepting the result of the referendum. you're doing to be with you always do, which is, they go to with you always do, which is, they gotoa with you always do, which is, they go to a country and say, "have another vote." that go to a country and say, "have another vote. " that is go to a country and say, "have another vote." that is not democratic. the european union have
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said this is very clear that it is for the british people. in the end, thatis for the british people. in the end, that is for the people to decide. ultimately, i do get a bit bemused by this argument that says that if you go and consult with the people get people to vote, you're defying democracy. how is that possible if ultimately, the people and not 650 mps are making a determination of this? the original referendum was abided by because the prime minister is doing a negotiation, we are in it article 50 process. there are so many new facts that have emerged since that original but which was essentially a hypothetical discussion about what may or may not be able to get in this negotiation. now we actually know. why not actually give people the say? what are you so actually give people the say? what are you so afraid of? it's not like you got me orjacob reese mogg sitting in the letterbox saying this
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and that. particularly young people have got no... there's over a million young people who could vote who have not had to say on this. thank you very much. theresa may has promised a new plan on the table when it comes to that issue of northern ireland border. we will have to wait and see what you comes up have to wait and see what you comes up with. back to you. —— see what she comes up with. that is the point. she has made this the central point. she has made this the central point of the negotiation. part of the united kingdom being cleaved away, in her view, she said that would undermine the constitution of the united kingdom. where to begin with this? let's go to patrick smyth, who's europe editor at the irish times. one of the things being put on the sidelines is... a regulatory border, would network? certainly some form a
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break —— of a regulatory border. the problem is we're not sure whether mrs is willing to come up with proposals that northern ireland is effectively treated as somewhat a pa rt effectively treated as somewhat a part of the rest of united kingdom. if you have that regulatory border, you would not have a hard post. that's right. it would be certainly largely frictionless, but there are some things which would have to be checked on the boats in the irish sea. we are not sure that this is what she has in mind. people are clutching at straws with this because they heard her last night saying there is no way she was going to go down this road at all, and is it possible that actually, she's going to come up with a proposal that does the same thing in a
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different language? if she won't accept it, if ireland is a fundamental printable for her, if the brexiteers won't accept that, where are we? we are in very serious difficulties. the leaders said again there will be no withdrawal agreement unless there is agreement on the backstop. it means a precipitous departure by the british from the eu on the 29th of march. and if we don't have the chequers plan, which has been outright rejected here today, let's face it, we are back to norway, belonging to the eea, or probably where michel barnier is, some goodies thrown in but that does not include services thrown in. is that where we are back to? it certainly means customs
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borders. even though you may have free trade, in goods, they have to be checked at our border.m certainly does not help in the backstop front. i think the norway is pretty much ruled out because of the british government's adamant refusal to consider staying part of the single market. for the rejections the tory backbenchers have two the northern backstop is i think precisely related to regulatory issues. and thatis related to regulatory issues. and that is very problematic. pat smyth, thank you very much for your insight. we have heard from the european leaders today. they will discuss plans with theresa may but not if it separates goods and services. one german official said
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to me today, it's half past eight. christian, thank you. christian fraser there in salzburg. coming up later in the programme, at 5.35pm, we're giving you the opportunity to ask our europe correspondent damien grammaticas, any burning questions you may have about the uk's future outside the eu. and many of you have been sending us your questions throughout the day, so stay tuned for that. you're watching the bbc news at 5pm. our top stories this afternoon: there's a blunt message for theresa may in salzburg, with the head of the european council warns her brexit plan risks undermining the single market. the world anti—doping agency lifts it's ban on russia, imposed over the scandal surrounding state—sponsored doping. there's a damning verdict on this summer's rail chaos, as a report finds "nobody took charge," as new timetables disrupted hundreds of services. and in sport, a couple of key
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players were left at home but chelsea still put out a strong side for their opening europa league group game in greece. danny cipriani is left out of england's item training camp at eddiejones says he has as good a chance as anybody to be in the world cup, which starts a year today. and anthony joshua be in the world cup, which starts a year today. and anthonyjoshua says hisjob is to prove nondrug sheets are stronger and better as he prepares to defend his world titles againstan prepares to defend his world titles against an opponent who failed to doping tests. i will have all the stories at just doping tests. i will have all the stories atjust half past five. local police in the us state of maryland say there have been multiple fatalities in a shooting in the town of aberdeen, near the city of baltimore. the incident happened at a distribution centre, which has been placed on lock—down. police have advised people to stay away from the area. at about 9:06am this morning, a report came into a dispatch centre
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from the destruction centre of shots fired. immediately, deputies and officers, troopers, otherfirst responders responded. we were on scene just responders responded. we were on scenejust in over responders responded. we were on scene just in over five minutes, arriving, law enforcement and ems quickly paired up together, got into the building to renderfirst aid where appropriate. treat patients in an attempt to locate a suspect or suspects. at this time, i can confirm with what wounded and multiple fatalities. based on what we know right now, and again, very preliminary, the lone suspect is in custody and it is in serious condition in a local hospital. it appears to be a single weapon used, appears to be a single weapon used, a single handgun, and there were no shots fired by law enforcement officers responded to the scene. we do not believe there is an additional threat anywhere to our
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community. the latest on that shooting in maryland in the united states. any more and we'll bring that to you. the suspension of russia's anti—doping agency has been lifted, despite widespread opposition. the ban had been in place since 2015, following allegations of state sponsored cheating. the world anti—doping agency's executive committee says it's been given assurances from the russian sports ministry that failings have been acknowledged. our sports correspondent alex capstick is here with me. is this a surprise, the lifting of the band ? is this a surprise, the lifting of the band? it is not given the fact that i was the recommendation from a panel called the compliance review committee. they came back to the executive committee with a recommendation to reinstate russia because they had compromised on two key issues, two sticking points that had caused an impasse in this, a stalemate. wada felt they had to do something so they offered this copper mice. —— they offered this compromise. it affected more than
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8000 athletes in over 30 different sports and they also had to open their doors at the moscow laboratory to hand over staples. russia has agreed to do it but on a watered—down basis. it agreed to some of the contents, not all of them, and it has not opened its doors but has agreed to supply the raw data. wada says that's enough. but there are some who are critical. one suggestion has been that this is a kick in the teeth for clean athletes. lots of devastating blow for clea n athletes. lots of devastating blow for clean sport. the vice president of wada says this undermines the credibility of wada. wada knows this is, because it's been a hugely divisive issue in the world of sport. not to have been suspended, they were not expecting the contents
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of the mclaren report. athletes have said it is not fair. it was not fair on athletes cheated out of metal. russia perhaps will not hand over this data in the time allowed. it has to be by the end of this year. if sceptical about that. they are also sceptical about the timing, the way of this being done, on the eve of this executive committee. we'll leave it there. alex capstick. an inquest has been told that the westminster bridge attacker, khalid masood, attended the same mosque as extremists convicted of plotting a series of bomb attacks, after he converted to islam in jail. masood was shot dead after driving into pedestrians on westminster bridge and fatally stabbing a police officer. jenny kumah is at the old bailey. what more did the inquest today? this afternoon, we heard evidence from khalid masood's mother, and she
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describes the final moments she spent with her son. she explained how he visited her six days before the attack. they were preparing a meal and he asked her to repeat certain religious phrases, one of which was "a lot is the one true god and mohammed is his prophet." she said she repeated these phrases. she said she repeated these phrases. she said she repeated these phrases. she said she is not a religious person but she repeated them. she knew her son was a devout muslim so she repeated the. and the following morning, he again asked her to repeat those phrases. again, she did so. repeat those phrases. again, she did so. his final to her as they were going her separate ways the following morning work "they will say i'm a terrorist. i am not." she explained she was confused by the phrase was that she had no idea what she was planning —— what he was planning. she thought his violent past was a hind him. it did not occur to her step she said that she
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learned of the attack on the ten o'clock news. she said as soon as she saw the body, she knew it was him and she said it all made sense to her, what he had said. during her evidence, it made it clear they were difficult moments during their relationship. she said that he was an angry person, a fiery person but there was only one time that he had shown anger to her. and it was over a chicken dinner. she said that he switched like the incredible hulk was stopped the inquest was shown some e—mails that show the difficulties in their relationship, but she said, ending her evidence, she was sorry to the families, the victims. and we also heard evidence from his partner at the time. she said she had no idea she was married to someone so evil and she said she wished she had been more vigilant. 0k, wished she had been more vigilant. ok, jenny, thank you for that. jenny kumah at the old bailey. let's take a look at some of the day's other top stories. the chief executive of the prison
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and probation service, michael spurr, has been told to leave his post after almost nine years in charge. it comes as a number of prisons in england and wales face record levels of violence, drug—taking and self—harm. mr spurr has agreed to step down, and will leave next march. police investigating a suspected poisoning at a restaurant in salisbury on sunday are examining whether it was a hoax. the emergency services declared a major incident, after alex king and his wife, anna shapiro, were apparently taken ill. they were admitted to hospital and later discharged. police say the so—called croydon cat killer doesn't exist. the metropolitan police began an investigation three years ago, after several reports of mutilated cats being found. 25 postmortem examinations were carried out, but no evidence was found of "human involvement". scotland yard now says the injuries were likely to be "the result of predation or scavenging by wildlife on cats, killed in vehicle collisions." a total ban on advertisements
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for gambling during live sporting events is being proposed by the labour party, as a way to combat addiction. the party's deputy leader, tom watson, says problem gambling has now become "a public health emergency". our sports correspondent richard conway has more. voice over: think fast, act faster, in play. you can watch it and you can get involved in it. it matters more when there's money on it — that's the message gambling companies often sell to viewers of live sport, but labour are concerned problem gambling has become a public health emergency and are pledging limits on when ads can be shown during sporting events. with nearly half a million gambling addicts, and the gambling commission telling us that sitting behind them are 2 million problem gamblers who are at risk of becoming gambling addicts,
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i think as a country, we've got to say enough is enough, and we need better regulation and new laws to trim the worst excesses of the gambling industry. the party also wants to introduce a mandatory levy to fund treatments for addicts, and stop betting by credit cards. adam bradford's father went to prison after stealing over £50,000 to fund his gambling habit and believes the proposals are much needed. if measures like this were in place a few years ago when my dad was at the height of his gambling addiction, we wouldn't be in the position we're in now. he used credit cards, he was sucked in by the adverts, the free bets. every sports game, the betting was there. if this regulation was in place then, i don't think he would have gone to prison. the conservatives have criticised labour for liberalising the gambling market when it was in power, which included allowing tv commercials. why don't you put a few quid on? i am going to. i'm going to have a cheeky punt. and the advertising industry believes change is unnecessary. we've already got very strict rules in place. in fact, probably the strictest rules of any advertising sector.
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advertising for gambling is overseen by the gambling commission and the advertising standards authority. it's subject to constant review. sport, particularly football, has become increasingly reliant on revenue from gambling companies in recent years. this season, almost 60% of clubs in england's top two divisions have the names of bookmakers on their shirts. and the links in other sports are growing. this week, formula one announced it would now allow in—play betting and is seeking over £75 million of investment from gambling firms. and we see everything. for now, the ads will continue to roll. and we gamble responsibly. but the issue of betting advertising around sport is now firmly part of a wider political debate. richard conway, bbc news. the rail regulator says "nobody took charge" when new timetables were introduced in may, leading to weeks of chaos and thousands of services being cancelled. the office of rail and road says network rail, the two train companies involved
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and the department of transport all made mistakes and the failings were systemic. our transport correspondent tom burridge reports. for people commuting in and out of manchester, like marcus, it's been so bad recently, he's sometimes been forced off the train. it's just been absolutely terrible. ram—packed on the train. obviously, the cost of it just keeps going up. i get this train every morning. sometimes, i've not actually been able to get on the train because it's been that packed. new timetables in may brought chaos here. 300 scheduled trains didn't run each day. on govia thameslink, nearly 500 services in and out of london disappeared into thin air. today, a report by the rail regulator. it finds network rail mainly to blame for causing the chaos on northern. infrastructure upgrades overran, and northern wasn't left with enough time to draw up and implement complicated new timetables.
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problems on govia thameslink were partly caused by a late decision by the department for transport on how to phase the changes in. then the train company failed to train enough drivers on new routes. the chief executive of the gtr stepped down. you must have considered your position at some point. well, look, this issue is about sorting out the problems for passengers. myjob is to make sure that we have a railway that is fit for purpose going forward. passengers have been let down this summer. they've been let down by a system. the report says very clearly that there are problems all the way across the rail industry. what ourjob in government is... myjob now is to make sure we have a better way going forward. today the government, which was forced to take control of the east coast main line, is launching a review of the railways. industry sources admit the system isn't fit for purpose. the review will look at fundamental questions, like whether the contracts between the government and the companies that run these trains need to be more flexible, how to integrate the public track
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and the private trains, and whether the railways across the country need to be managed more at a regional level. that's been the case on scotrail — some say the track and trains there are more closely co—ordinated. the body representing the rail operators says substantial change is needed. we know we need to improve. we know we need to change, and we're hoping that the review will help us unlock those systemic issues and deliver a service that passengers want to take, that they'll look forward to getting on the train in the morning. however, the government's review will not consider labour's policy — that the whole system should be nationalised again. tom burridge, bbc news. coming up. stay with us. time for a look at all the weather news. different day, different storm, but
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still potentially producing some issues. it's storm bronagh really producing some really heavy rainfall as we speak, and i will continue to move its way steadily up to the southwest, affecting wales, the midlands and northern england over the next few hours. behind it, as the next few hours. behind it, as the rain clears, we could see squally winds as well. if you are out on the risk and be prepared for some of that weather to be an issue. winds gusting in excess of 60 miles an hour over the night across the midlands. it could be a bit tricky first thing in the morning. the rain will linger but it's not going to last long. it'll move its way off into the north sea, and then behind, a day of sunny spells and scattered showers. a real difference with tamara's story is the winds government more with wesley —— tamara's story is that the winds come from a moral northwesterly
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direction. things getting a little worse unsettled for the second half of the weekend but saturday, at the moment, looks promising. welcome back to the bbc news at five, our top stories this afternoon. in a blow to the prime minister, the head of the european council has told theresa may, that her plans for brexit "won't work". everybody shared the view that while there are positive elements in the chequers proposal, the suggested framework for economic cooperation will not work. theresa may inisits that her plan is the only one to ensure the integrity of the uk and frictionless trade. there is a lot of work to be done and we will be doing that, obviously, over the next few weeks. what will continue to dry me is to continue to deliver for the british people. the world anti—doping agency have agreed to lift a ban imposed on russia in 2015 over allegations
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of state—backed doping. "nobody took charge" when new rail timetables the rail regulator says mistakes were made and failings were systemic. time for the sport. good evening. two of the four british clubs opening their europa league group campaigns are just 20 minutes away from kick—off. rangers have already played eight games in the competition to get this far. and are in spain to play villarreal. while chelsea have travelled a little further — to greece — where they face paok salonika. chelsea have left behind several key players including eden hazard, mateo kovacic and david luiz. but maurizio sarri has still named a pretty strong team. they start at 5:55pm. only for the little injury in the
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game against cardiff. the last one is eden hazard because they don't need that for the national team and after the match against cardiff, he was a little bit tired so i thought it was better to have training and to rest. so chelsea and rangers are the early kick—offs with arsenal and celtic to follow later. they start at 8pm. with arsenal's new boss unai emery having won this competition three times before. they play vorskla poltava from ukraine and celtic take on rosenborg. gloucester fly—half danny cipriani has been left out of next week's england rugby union training squad. head coach eddiejones says cipriani hasn't been included purely
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for rugby reasons, after the fly—half was fined by a jersey magistrate last month after being charged with common assault for an incident outside a nightclub, even though he's been in good form for his club gloucester. our correspondnetjoe wilson spoke tojones today. eddie, it is a year until the beginning of the world cup. do you think there is any chance danny cipriani will play in the world cup? 100%. cipriani will play in the world cup? ioo%. great chance. ijust spent five minutes discussing their years, so he's got as much opportunity as any of the other players in the squad and outside the squad. and manu tuilagi? will it be a better tea m and manu tuilagi? will it be a better team with him in it? ita better team with him in it? it a lot can happen in 12 months. it isa it a lot can happen in 12 months. it is a long time in sport. those guys, it's a great thing for us. i've probably never been as excited about announcing a squad in england is today because of the fact i can sense with the players, they are all
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much fitter, all much more fiery than they were last year. anthonyjoshua claims it's hisjob to "show the non—drug cheat is a stronger and better fighter" as he prepares to defend his world heavyweight titles against alexander povetkin. a russian who failed two doping tests in 2016. the two meet on saturday in front of an expected sell—out at wembley stadium. the weigh—in is tomorrow. there's been no trash talk in the build up. russian povetkin has promised fans a good fight and joshua thinks it'll be close. skills apart, technique apart, i think we've both got big hearts and we can dig deep, so that always turns up the good fight. we both stayed in there and dug deep against klitschko and we will do it again. we will put our skills on the line andi we will put our skills on the line and i think the one who is toughest will come out victorious. sergio garcia's showed he is in decent form ahead of next week's ryder cup by shooting a five—under par first round at the portugal masters. the spaniard raised a few eyebrows when he was given
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a wildcard for the european team but has insisted he has nothing to prove. he's two shots off the lead held by england's matt wallace and eddie pepperell. neither of those men have made the ryder cup team. the british number one johanna konta is out of the pan pacific open injapan. she was beaten in straight sets in the second round by donna vekic. konta was 4—1 up in the second set before the croatian fought back. that's all the sport for now. you can find more on all those stories on the bbc sport website. live text commentary from the europa league and details of kent's promotion in county cricket and warwickshire looking likejoining them. chris mitchell will have more for you in sportsday at 6:30pm. there are so many questions remaining about what the uk's future relationship with the eu will look like after brexit, so it's time once again to take your questions in ask this.
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and you've been sending in your queries throughout the day, so thanks for that, and the man with all the answers, is our europe correspondent damian grammaticas. good afternoon. it is good to see you and thanks forjoining us. the first question for you is from katherine who got in touch via e—mail, and she says... she is asking what happens if there is no deal at the end of all the talks. i will do my best to give you an answer. this is an important question and it is tricky so give me a little bit of time. i think what she means is the world trade organisation. this is the organisation that exists to underpin world trade rules, to help trade
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flow fairly and smoothly. about 160 plus countries are members so most of the world, accounting for 95% of world trade. it exists as a negotiating forum, a place where countries come together to agree common. what they do then is they agree commitments, that's their basic sort of commitment they will put on the table and respect eve ryo ne put on the table and respect everyone they trade with, things like lowering customs duties and opening access for the eu for example, from cars it is basic duty at 10% if you want to import a car to the eu. the last thing that exists is the dispute resolution. the thing to say here is this is like the basic sort of foundations for trade. it underpins the eu in what it does. what countries then do is they are negotiate agreements and trade deals on top. the eu is like a
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superior trade deal that facilitates movement of trade. the countries then, one of the important things is then, one of the important things is the most—favoured—nation principal. if you move out of the eu then you start to be treated like any other country got some say this principle is you can't discriminate any country on a basic level. take cars for example. the minute they trade freely, when the e uk moves outside the eu, the eu will treat it the same as any country with which it trades without a special arrangement. so a 10% tariff would apply, the same as for american ca rs. apply, the same as for american cars. so it is sort of a step backwards from where we are now. others point to other parts of the world trade rules, which is about facilitating trade. the eu would have to make things easy. but an important part of the world trade rules also is that countries can protect their own
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markets in order to protect consumers, maybe, protect sectors like agriculture sometimes. the eu can say a car that comes in has to be checked for safety standards to check that it's safe for people inside to dry. it doesn't make trade free, it provides the underpinning swore it. those are the basic rules. at the minute the uk is covered by the eu's tariff. if it moves outside, it will have to set up its own list of schedules, of commitment and the wto and would it keep that 10% or change it as a basic level? that negotiation is ongoing and it is not simple because it involves agreements with every other country, and that is not simple. 0k, and that is not simple. ok, thanks for that, and that is not simple. ok, thanks forthat, damien. i've got alun, who got in touch via e—mail. he says... 0k,
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ok, a good question. and i think what i was just saying, if you follow that logic through, the commitment at the minute is the irish border is open. it's totally free. trade flows freely. if we move and go into wto rules, those basic ta riffs and go into wto rules, those basic tariffs will apply to goods will have to be stopped or checked or pay those terrorists crossing the border. those standards checks like i was mentioning would also apply, soa it i was mentioning would also apply, so a it would have to be checked for standards, which is why falling back on wto rules does not mean the irish border could stay open. in fact, the opposite. that would be a border that the eu would need to apply its rules to every country to the uk and every other country importing across the border. so it doesn't answer the irish border question. that is the big question at the
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moment. john has got in touch. he says... another good question and one that quite a lot of people ask. i think you could point to a few things. you could point to the issue of money, that exit bill, as it is sometimes called, the financial commitment. on that there had been all sorts of figures talked about. interestingly the eu itself had never pointed to one number. some estimates have put it up as high as reaching 60, 80100 billion. with the negotiations had happened, that has been, that figure has been put in the region of perhaps a0 billion. we still don't know because it still depends on how we negotiation, how the figures will be calculated at the end of the day.
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some could say that the eu has given a bit of ground there. the other area, the idea that these negotiations was going to happen in phases. the eu was going to have all the divorce, the x it issues cleared up the divorce, the x it issues cleared up first. remember last december, the eu agreed to move forward and we are still discussing the irish border. that issue wasn't sorted out last december. there were commitments and the eu said, let's move forward. you could say that somewhere where the uk had won some ground. another area, if there is a transition period, the uk had wanted to be able to do trade deals in that time and the eu had said no. the eu has said you can go and negotiate them, that's fine, but you can't bring them into effect until the end of the transition. so that is something of a transition as well. also on the issue of citizens'
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rights after brexit, the eu had been talking about having its court of justice overseeing those, enforcing that in the uk. we think it's now going to be a joint committee so in a way slightly stepping back from that, which was an important british confessing woodwork concession. paul has got in touch. he says... yes, an important question for many people. this is the european health insurance system where you travel from the uk or other european countries around the eu, you get the ca rd countries around the eu, you get the card and if you get sick you can go and get treated in a hospital under the same basis as you would at home, or anyone locally would. so it allows you to move freely and benefit from health care. if there
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is it recession period, everything stays in place for another couple of yea rs stays in place for another couple of years —— a transition period. if there is no transition period, there is no deal in the uk falls out at the end of march next year, that system will come to an end and equally, at the end of the transition period, we still don't know what happens then. it depends what is negotiated, with the uk negotiates. it is unclear but at the moment that system goes what you have to do is rather than travel with a card to entitle you to health care, you would need insurance, just as you were to go to america. thank you for that. finally and briefly, if you could. stan says... not as much, is the very simple answer. at this summit here, the eu
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issue has been the migration crisis and the political divisions around that. it took up much more time at this summit than the brexit issue did. much of the european coverage has focused on that for example, but there are many other issues— relations with donald trump, vladimir putin, the euro sceptic parties who are now in power in italy. those things are important for european news but i have to say, as brexit is coming, it is rising up the european news agenda as well. thanks. and thanks for taking some of those questions and thanks to you for getting in touch with your queries over what the future relationship could be between the european union and britain once we leave the eu. tomorrow on bbc news,
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with six months to go until the uk leaves the eu how will brexit affect your health? our health editor hugh pym will be here just after 11:30 in tomorrow's newsroom live. this evening the winner of the mercury prize will be announced. nominees include lily allen, the arctic monkeys and noel gallagher. let's go live to the red carpet and talk to our entertainment correspondent colin paterson. is it getting exciting their? the shortlist are arriving. you mentioned a lot of the big names. so many established names. you got florence and the machine. lily allen
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is over there. it means a lot to some of the acts who could break through if they wind tonight, including nadine. you are on the shortlist. explain how much it means to you to be on the shortlist. the mercury prize historically has always been a platform for artists who aren't hugely commercial and you don't hear about all the time so it's a way to get your music out to a larger audience. for me, it's a way to get your music out to a largeraudience. for me, making it's a way to get your music out to a larger audience. for me, making a political record and getting a larger audience to hear what i was speaking about on the album is most important to me. it isa important to me. it is a political album, the syrian crisis motivated you. what was it about that that captivated you? the one thing that was really shocking that i was seeing the most of was obviously, there is this rise in nationalism but it is that coupled with a decline in empathy, and that's what i wanted to do,
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because i was hearing a response to how people were reacting to syrians and eritreans arriving on the coast of greece, and it wasn't a warm welcome for lots of people and there we re welcome for lots of people and there were some disgusting things being said, soi were some disgusting things being said, so i wanted to document that rhetoric. i should be clear that it is not a doom and gloom album. you can still dance to it. listen, stevie wonder is my favourite artist of all time, but some of his songs we re of all time, but some of his songs were hugely political. they haven't all got to be dour. living for the city, it is uplifting. when i play these songs live, people leave the room feeling energised and they have their activism reenergised and it is hopeful. i know your parents have supported you are not. have you managed to get them tickets tonight? yes, they are in. they come down from newcastle. my mother spent
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more on her dress ban on my outfit. they are super excited because i think it's been very frustrating for them, watching my career, knowing that i've always been making quite alternative music and worrying about whether people will hear it, whether it is weird, and then i'm seeing the press with the mercury prize, i think it's given them a little bit of comfort that i might be all right. validation. like a good school report. there weren't a lot of those. give them a quick name check. heather and imtiaz. will they be out of their seats if you win? they can't be bothered with that. they can't be bothered with that. they will be pleased. sales of artist albums are down 26% year on year and part of that is because ed sheron sold so much last year, but
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how much does the album still matter? for me as an artist i like making a coherent body of work. i like taking a theme and making ten or 12 songs around that theme, and that's howl work. but i understand there are artists who want to put out a single here and there. i don't know, i'm 32. i don't know her younger people ingest music but for me it's getting a record, taking it home and giving it time to listen to it. you were on the news this morning saying he wanted the 25 grand because noel gallagher would only spend it on trousers. what would you spend it on? at the minute it's very practical, i'm very practical things. i need minute it's very practical, i'm very practicalthings. i need a minute it's very practical, i'm very practical things. i need a fancy hoover. very boring things. hopefully we won't because otherwise all my friends have put bets on and i can't pay them all back, so... thanks forjoining us.
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it's like the generation game. if you win you get a hoover. we might get noel gallagher in a minute. i don't want you looking in the background. away with you! if you do get noel gallagher, join us again. we've got him no! you got him no. go for it. here we go. noel gallagher. it's very quiet. you are live on the news channel. they've been doing the brexit special all—day. they've broken out over it for the mercury prize. who? the news channel. would you like to be on that? the brexit thing? no. nominated for the first time in 22 years, what are the first time in 22 years, what are the memories of that evening? i don't think it got nominated. it did.
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i've only ever been to one, which was. . . definitely maybe. you have forgotten the name of your first album! iremember it the name of your first album! i remember it was in a hotel restaurant. it wasn't like this. i don't know, i can't remember. this is the first time you've been nominated as a solo act with who built the moon. what does it mean to you? i was genuinely shocked when somebody said i had been nominated for an mna. i thought it was a mixed martial arts award. it's good. it's good. and what about florence and the machine with mac she is my mate. i like her. nadine is one of the favourites. she was asked about what she made of the shortlist and she was complaining there are lots of
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established acts like yourself, florence, lily allen. she said you don't need it as much as she does. what would you say to that? i've nothing to say to that. £25,000 prize — the theory is you would spend it on trousers. what would spend it on trousers. what would you spend it on? i would spend it on trainers. i would probably spend it on going out tonight. is that all it is? 25 grand? it was that in the 90s! why isn't it more? you need to find an organiser. who sponsors this nonsense? let's not give them a mention. do i get the impression you aren't taking this seriously? i'm not, no. why are you coming to support it? we don't get many chances to get a night out any more. we are coming for a night out and if i win i will be flabbergasted. it is nice to come
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out. for all the people who worked on the record, producers and all the people who played on it at all the girls in the office, it means something. a bit ofa something. a bit of a 90s throwback, a big night out. there is about 20 of us tonight as we are going to have a great night and got! we are going to have a great night and got i don't think i will win. 25 grand would help with that. it would be amazing. i would donate it to save the hedgehog or something. colin, many thanks. you got him, you got your man in the end. time for a look at the weather. the weather is not very pleasant this evening. it is wet and turning increasingly windy as well. we have another means storm across the uk, this time affecting parts of wales,
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central and northern parts of england. the wind will be more of an issue through the night and in the early hours we will see some squally and potentially damaging gusts of wind with the system. the rain at the moment is really horrendous for the moment is really horrendous for the early evening rush hour, lots of whether from this weather front moving through as wisbech. to the south, that is where the wind will strengthen. 50 or 60 mph gusts. over the next few hours the wettest weather across west wales, moving up through the northwest of england, stretching across the peaks and pennines up into newcastle with heavy, relentless rain for a time and it will make driving conditions relentless. the rain will start to ease away and that's where the strongest wind will pick up. we could see this in excess of 50 or 60 mph through the midlands, south east and the south facing coasts as well. a pretty blustery start for some to
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friday morning, a wet one for others as well. the rain will ease away and behind we should see an improving picture with the wind slowing down and turning direction to a north westerly flow, adding a fresh feel right across the country. sunny spells and scattered showers the order of the day tomorrow with a maximum temperature of 11—18d so a real difference in the south—east, where we have seen the low 20s for the last few days. billyoakes friday into saturday, we will keep the quieter story into saturday morning. this little ridge of high pressure will build, allowing the temperatures to fall away. a potentially chilly start to saturday morning before we could potentially season
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wet weather pushing into the south—west. generally speaking, the start of the weekend is promising that eventually some rain in the south—west of england and wales. sandwiched in between after the chilly start, try and bright but look at the temperatures. 11—15. it will be a bit of a shock to the system. eu leaders tell the prime minister that her chequers brexit plan will not work. theresa may went to salzburg hoping for support for her proposals. but the response was clear. the suggested framework for economic cooporation will not work, not least because it risks undermining the single market. if there are concerns from the european union let's hear what those concerns and let's sit down and look at those concerns. but what we need to ensure is that at the end of the day the deal that comes out of this is one that for the is one that delivers for the british people. no breakthrough, instead of
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