hello, it's 9 o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire, a senior cabinet minister is warning that britain's heading for a no—deal brexit unless the eu changes its mind on the irish border issue. what the european union is asking in and around northern ireland is simply impossible for any uk government to accept. and actually, if they stick with that position there will be no deal, because no uk government, certainly not this one, the labour party has said the same, could possibly accept any kind of border in the irish sea. it comes after the president of the european council, donald tusk, said theresa may's proposed trade plan "won't work". we'll talk to a range of politicians and ask what might happen next. this programme has been told that thousands of patients given contaminated blood in the 19705 and 80s after childbirth or an operation may not realise they're living with a life—threatening illness. i got over the operation, thought everything was fine, and then in 2011 discovered that the four units of blood that had actually saved my life was killing me. jackie britton has cirrosis

of the liver caused by hepatitis c. we'll hear her story and ask how many other people might have been affected by the worst ever nhs treatment scandal and not even know it. and the finale of the biggest new drama on british television in a decade is on bbc one on sunday. why wasn't i informed earlier about this new line of enquiry? i'm sorry, ma'am... who initiated it? i'm acting on information from david budd. bodyguard actor stuart bowman, who plays m15 chief stephen hunter—dunn, is here in the studio. hello, welcome to the programme. we're live until 11am this morning. there are 39 different sets of rules for what can be put in plastic recycling collections

across the country, according to new analysis by the bbc. and now the government is looking at how to simplify things. do you argue with your family about what plastic you can and can't recycle? according to a new survey, 47% of people do. if that's you, do get in touch. use the hashtag victorialive. if you're emailing and are happy for us to contact you and maybe want to take part in the programme, please include your phone number in your message. if you text, you'll be charged at the standard network rate. our top story today... a senior cabinet minister has warned that britain is heading for a no—deal brexit unless the eu softens its position on the issue of the irish border. the transport secretary, chris grayling, says it's impossible for the government to agree to northern ireland having customs rules that are different to the rest of the uk. yesterday, at the end of the salzburg summit, theresa may's chequers plan was rejected by eu leaders. but she insists it's the only credible option. here's our political correspondent chris mason. it was hoped there would be some harmony at this meeting in salzburg,

the setting for the sound of music. instead, eu leaders gave theresa may's brexit plan a bit of a kicking. everybody shares the view that, while there are positive elements in the chequers proposal, the suggested framework for economic cooperation will not work. but the prime minister did not back down, standing by her brexit blueprint, seemingly angry at how things went. so, yes, concerns have been raised. i want to know what those concerns are. there's a lot of hard work to be done, but i believe that there is a willingness to do a deal but let nobody be in any doubt that, as i've always said, we are preparing for no deal. so, two rather different song sheets among eu leaders as the talks reach a crucial stage. both sides say they do want a deal but there is still stuff they can't agree on,

not least how to avoid a hard irish border. at the moment, what the european union is asking in and around northern ireland is simply impossible for any uk government to accept and actually, if they stick with that position, there will be no deal because no uk government, certainly not this one — the labour party has said the same — could possibly accept any kind of border in the irish sea. critics at home who don't like the prime minister's plan are saying i told you so. the former brexit secretary david davis told the huffington post there's a rock—solid core of probably 30 or a0 conservative mps prepared to vote against it. theresa may might have wanted helpful mood music to take home. instead, the noise left ringing in her ears is not quite so tuneful. chris mason, bbc news. chris is in salford. what happens next? back to the

drawing board? that's a good question and i'm not quite sure the a nswer question and i'm not quite sure the answer which tells you the scale of the issue. the chequers plan, so—called, the prime minister's idea thatis so—called, the prime minister's idea that is on the table, is a bit about exaggeration to say it is friendless but not much. we know the noises in the conservative party here at home around it, those who think it simply will not wash, and we now know the european union does not like it either will stop so there is very little time for the prime minister to try to find a solution. between 110w to try to find a solution. between now and the summit in brussels next month there is the small matter of the conservative party conference where you have a lot of conservative activists and mps cooped up in a secure zone for the best part of a week with ample opportunity to fall out in public in front of the cameras. this is now getting towards crunch time. yes, in eu negotiations

there are theatrics and both sides wa nt there are theatrics and both sides want a deal and want to be seen to be getting a good one. you have to factor in some of that when you see what happened in salzburg. but nobody is pretending this will be easy. thank you very much. we will be speaking to iain duncan smith later and, with six months to go until the uk is due to leave the eu, we are looking at many aspects of brexit this week on bbc news. and we're putting your questions to the experts. at 12:30pm this lunchtime we'll be getting the answers about the uk's future outside the eu, what it means for healthcare and the nhs. what do you want to know? text your questions to 611211. email to askthis@bbc.co.uk. or tweet using the hashtag bbcaskthis. and in duncan smith will be coming up and in duncan smith will be coming up after a and in duncan smith will be coming up aftera summary and in duncan smith will be coming up after a summary of the news. annita mcveigh is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the day's news. the metropolitan police have admitted for the first time that an undercover officer had a sexual

relationship with an environmental activist with the knowledge of his bosses. legal documents seen by the bbc show that mark kennedy's cover officers and line manager knew about his relationship with kate wilson and allowed it to continue. up to now the police have always maintained these relationships would not be sanctioned by senior officers. here's our home affairs correspondent, june kelly. he posed as mark stone, an environmental activist and a single man. in reality, he was mark kennedy, an undercover police officer married with children. one of the number of officers who had relationships with women campaigners they were spying on. 15 years ago, mark kennedy began a two—year relationship with kate wilson. as a result, she is currently involved in legal actions against the metropolitan police. in her case, the police have now admitted for the first time that mark kennedy's cover officers and his line manager knew about this relationship

and allowed it to continue. kate wilson is currently abroad. via skype, she spoke of how this new information from the police contradicts what they told her when they paid her compensation. it gave me an apology in our civil claim where they say, these relationships should never have happened, they would never have been authorised and they were a case of failures in supervision and management and that's just not the taste. management were absolutely complicit in what was going on. is in a statement, scotland yard said that, "as a result of the ongoing legal action, it would be inappropriate to comment at this stage." adding again that, "those relationships were wrong and should not have happened." the question now being asked is whether police bosses knew about all mark kennedy's undercover relationships and those of the other police spies. june kelly, bbc news. at least a0 people have died

after a ferry carrying hundreds of people capsized on lake victoria in tanzania. officials have said the ferry was carrying more than 400 passengers. it is thought the overloaded vessel toppled over when crowds on board moved to one side as it docked. security concerns have been raised about the imminent release from prison of the radical preacher anjem choudary and other followers of the banned al—muhajiroun group. choudary was jailed for five and a half years in 2016 for his support of the so—called islamic state. a former al—muhajiroun member has told the bbc choudary‘s release comes at the same time as the threat of far right extremism is growing, which could create a potentially "disastrous cocktail." bbc news has discovered that councils across the uk have nearly a0 different sets of rules for recycling plastic, while some authorities don't take any plastic. the government has said it wants to make the process more straightforward and to increase

domestic recycling rates. italy's competition watchdog, antitrust, has opened an inquiry into ryanair‘s decision to charge people to take hand luggage onto the plane. from november, passengers will still be able to take a small personal bag into the cabin, as long as it fits under the seat in front. but they will have to pay nine euros, or £8, to take on a 10kg bag. antitrust said hand luggage was "an essential element of transport" and should be included in the ticket price. the rap producer suge knight has admitted manslaughter over a hit and run death in los angeles three years ago. the death row records founder knocked down two men in compton, killing one of them. as part of a plea deal, a murder charge has been dropped, but he still faces 28 years in prison. parts of the uk have been hit by heavy rain, flooding and strong winds from storm bronagh. this is the moment a passer—by

rescued an elderly lady from her flooded car. richard hamshaw is seen wading through the water to get to the driver after she became trapped. the storm moved eastwards across wales and england overnight, and police warned motorists to take extra care during the morning rush hour. wolf alice are this year's mercury prize winners. the group's album, visions of a life, beat the likes of noel gallagher, arctic monkeys and lily allen. the london four—piece were almost lost for words as they took to the stage to accept the £25,000 prize. the group say they plan to invest the money by building a studio to record their third album next year. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. more at 9:30am. thank you. let us know what you think about the subjects we are covering, particularly recycling. 39 different ways of recycling plastic 01’ different ways of recycling plastic or different things you can recycle depending which area you are in. is

it confusing? how much are you recycling? do get in touch. include your number if you would like to join the conversation. let's get some sport. olly foster is at the bbc sport centre. not a bad night for english clubs in europe last night. no, but slightly worrying attendances. we saw manchester city losing in the champions league, with about 20,000 empty seats and last night we had the opening round of europa league group games, the second tier of european competition. arsenal's first game in the competition, the clu b first game in the competition, the club said it was a sell—out with 59,000 at the emirates but clearly there were not and it was about half full or half empty, whichever way you want to look at it. a few clubs do this, claiming that season ticket

holders are there, they don't count people through the turnstiles. one of those empty seats. but they did win, it was never going to be the biggest draw and they won fairly easily with pierre—emerick aubameyang scoring twice. they went a-o aubameyang scoring twice. they went a—0 up and it finished a—2. clearly the fans want them to be in the champions league but it is important to the new manager, unai emery, who w011 to the new manager, unai emery, who won the rob lever three years in a i’ow won the rob lever three years in a row with sevilla, his previous club —— the europa league. he has called on fans to embrace it. i think it is step—by—step. i am sure they are going to come little by little more supporters here with us. but also it is our work to bring them here. so, arsenal winning at home, chelsea were on the road on northern greece, paok salonika. willian with the goal in their1—0 win. both english clubs getting their

europa league group matches under way with victories. and a great night for rangers and celtic? yes, fantastic for the scottish teams. rangers had a really tough opening group game, away at villareal in spain. they were losing with 16 minutes to play but kyle lafferty equalised. his first european goal. it finished 2—2. rangers are unbeaten in nine european matches this season. their qualifying campaign started back injuly. they've played more europa league matches than domestic games. celtic have started their group stage with a win — the first time they've done that in 17 years. they left it very late. leigh griffiths with the winner against rosenborg in the 87th minute at celtic park. a good start for rangers and celtic. and a big world title fight tomorrow at wembley? yes, anthonyjoshua goes against eczema povetkin, the

39—year—old russian —— alexander povetkin. it is for all three of his world heavyweight titles. povetkin failed two separate drugs tests a few years ago. one of them for meldonium, the drug that maria sharapova fell foul of. he also failed a test for a steroid—like substance before one of his fights. he was banned indefinitely, but that was controversially overturned quite soon after and he has hasn't missed much time out of the ring. he has only lost once in his career, that was to vladimir klitschko, who joshua beat at wembley a year ago. but there are many who feel that the russain shouldn't have been given the opportunity to fight again. my my opinion is, you know, if you are on drugs, you get banned, simple as that, yeah? number two, on drugs, you get banned, simple as that, yeah? numbertwo, is not for me to make that decision, i'm not pa rt me to make that decision, i'm not part of the committee, but i do believe a fair fight. it's not like golf or something and i'm trying to improve my swing. i'm going in there

to enhance my performance, knock you out and it damages my opponent's health if that was me. i think there should be more severe cautions. but i have always been in the business in boxing on focusing on myself. not worried about what the committees, thejudges or the worried about what the committees, the judges or the referees are doing. wembley is expected to sell out on saturday night and the two fighters are weighing in later today. that's all the sport for now. with the president of the european council saying a key part of theresa may's brexit deal "won't work", are we getting closer and closer to a no—deal brexit? a senior cabinet minister — transport secretary chris grayling — says we are, unless the eu changes its mind on the irish border issue. so what does all this mean for the prime minister, the government, brexit and you and me? we can speak now to the former leader of the conservative party and brexiteer, iain duncan smith. thank you forjoining us. the papers are summing it up this morning with one word... humiliation. is that

what it is? there are two elements to this. first of all, i was never in favour of this arrangement because i didn't think the european union could ever accept it because it gave a peculiar access to the single market and customs union which they never wanted. in a funny way i don't understand why the advisers do this up and persuaded the prime minister this was ok. it was never ok. the other bit about the personal behaviour of various leaders in the eu, i have to tell you, notwithstanding my personal disagreement with the prime minister over the agreement, i thought it was appalling. to go out of your way to try to ridicule an individual like this rather revealed one of the reasons why people wanted to leave, which was the bullying and this centralised dictatorship that comes from the eu. it upsets lots of people and lots of countries. i think they played to their worst instincts. in a sense i can understand why they couldn't accept the agreement but there were better ways to say to her than that. the

same thing has been coming from our side as well, hasn't it? isn't it a tit for tat and this is what happens in these types of negotiations?” think when you are in meetings like this, you have disagreements and your views on it, but you ultimately behave in a civil way. it's because they all leaders of their countries and this kind of personalised... what did you take particular objection to? i think donald tusk's instagram post was appalling. the ca ke instagram post was appalling. the cake with the cherry and the rest of it. after it was all done, i thought it. after it was all done, i thought it was pretty insulting from somebody who doesn't even run a country and wasn't elected. but the overall tenor of it. vat is a big problem on the arrangement and i agree over all it doesn't work. i think the eu has been sending strong signals from the beginning, and over the last four weeks, they don't like the last four weeks, they don't like the agreement but they are prepared to sit down and discuss a proper free trade arrangement, specialised for the

free trade arrangement, specialised forthe uk, as free trade arrangement, specialised for the uk, as michel barnier and jean—claude juncker have both for the uk, as michel barnier and jean—claudejuncker have both said, because we have a special relationship with you. they don't like the check thing, and on this chris grayling is right, the thing that stands in their way is the in existence over their backstop, is that it existence over their backstop, is thatitis existence over their backstop, is that it is unfeasible to detach northern ireland from the rest of uk and have separate arrangement in the customs union. that has never been possible for any uk government. they have to go back and revisit this. if they want an arrangement, and i believe they genuinely don't want the uk to go to wto, they have to revisit that with the uk government. but what is the answer? first of all, the border it self, a paper produced a few weeks ago, by lots of experts including people like mr carlson and others involved in customs and they say there is absolutely no need for a hard border and most trading relationships could be done well behind the borders by trusted trader schemes and coordinating vat issues. it's not

vast new technology, but both sides agree there is a resolution to do this. what has happened up until now is no engagement from the eu or irish about this. but if they do wa nt irish about this. but if they do want the government to look at free trade, they have to be prepared now to go back and revisit this. the question now is to put the ball back to the eu and simply say, if you don't like checkers and you want a deal, the only deal we can do and the one that will satisfy both sides will be a free trade deal, let's get on with it now, but you need to revisit the border. it is a situation that was surely absolutely predictable before brexit. could it not be seen, in no way, like a situation where a couple are getting divorced and one of the parties says, i'm not happy with this because i will be living alone. how are you going to make that better for me. the other party will say, well, this is exactly what you voted for. it's what you wanted and you should have foreseen that was going

to happen. i don't have any issue about disputes and disagreements, thatis about disputes and disagreements, that is what negotiations are about. but it is a pretty insoluble one.” don't think it is. nothing is insoluble when it comes to the european union. i am convinced the eu wants a deal because ireland would be devastated if we went to wto because their trade is so significant with the uk. it is not in their interest or the european union's interest to head into that. the problem is we have become fixated with the chequers deal, which was never going to be the solution, partly because it didn't deliver to the public what they asked for, which was to take back control of borders, laws and money which was promised in the lancaster house speech. more importantly, from eu standpoint, it allowed a privileged access to the customs union, they thought. there were real objections on either side. i hope the prime minister says this, but we have to say, you don't like checkers and you have made it clear. free trade is the real deal that we will

get to if you are prepared to be flexible in that negotiation over the backstop issue which was an invention of leo varadkar at the last moment. enda kenny, who preceded him, had already started the process of looking at the border and getting it sorted and not making and getting it sorted and not making a problem. when prime minister verratti came in, he threw it all out and verratti came in, he threw it all outand said, verratti came in, he threw it all out and said, we will not do that and thrown it out. —— prime minister varadkar. but and thrown it out. —— prime minister va radkar. but now and thrown it out. —— prime minister varadkar. but now we have to get on with it. if chequers is dead, can the prime minister survive? theresa may is prime minister in a difficult situation. i don't agree with the chequers stuff but i do agree she has to find a solution to allow us to unlock the free trade arrangement. she has to go through this now and go back to them and say, if you want to play ball, this is what we are offering. if you don't want that, then the world trade organisation, which is how the

rest of the world trades, including the eu, is where we will be. the eu doesn't want that either. emmanuel macron has been very critical of those who said a deal after brexit would be easy. injuly of 2017 liam fox said a post brexit deal with the eu should be one of the easiest in human history, and then in the summer he put the chances of a deal at 60-a0 summer he put the chances of a deal at 60—a0 and the chance of a no deal seems to be getting greater. how would you rate those chances now?” still think it's much more 50—50. the view is that the eu, i believe, ultimately wants to get to an arrangement. they have been sending these strong signals for the last three weeks that they would like to doa three weeks that they would like to do a free—trade deal. michel barnier and juncker have both said it, among other politicians. the issue that lies in the middle is one they need to resolve with the uk, which is the demand about the backstop which came out of a change in the taoiseach in

ireland and also a presidential election where sinn fein caused the president governing party a problem, basically being stubborn and tough on the uk became a vote winner for them. when you come through all of that, the practical elements on how to resolve that are clear. but there has to be a political determination to do that if we want to get two free trade. there was a difference when the election happened and theresa may's government became dependent on the dup.” theresa may's government became dependent on the dup. i don't think any british government, with or without the dup's support, no british government would allow northern ireland to be separated from the uk in this regard. it was agreed previously... my big issue, backin agreed previously... my big issue, back in december, was that the government should never have agreed the backstop position as they did. but it did. in march, they said they we re but it did. in march, they said they were not binding it in legally and it wasn't a done deal, so they changed their position. was that because of the dup or something else? they realise that having

allowed that to happen in december, they locked out the thing they could have done, which was to get an arrangement with the eu, and the eu knows that as well. check is simply wasn't feasible for the eu and it isn't feasible for us. —— chequers simply wasn't feasible. so it has been a catalogue of errors. we were told it was all right and it has all been shown to the eu and they are fine on it and we'll get to that and agreed. clearly they were not fine on it so somebody has really screwed up on it so somebody has really screwed up in terms of the advice that is coming to her. my question to them now is, are you going to sit tight and simply say, we are not budging, or will you actually say, let's find a way through this in terms of free trade, not in terms of the customs issue, which is what they all object to. i think that makes common sense to. i think that makes common sense to me and that is what the negotiation is all about. david davis has said there are comfortably 30 or a0 davis has said there are comfortably 30 ora0 mps davis has said there are comfortably 30 or a0 mps who would vote against chequers. is it a bluff, really, to

be threatening theresa may with the prospect of them potentially going toa prospect of them potentially going to a general election? is that something the tory party would actually want to see? we are not going to a general election, that's for certain. the reality is that the chequers deal is an option they were going to put on the table. but i think yesterday told us that is not an option that is coming back. because of the eu doesn't like it, and your own party, and i understand the labour party have said they don't like it, i don't see where this thing goes other than, if you wa nt to this thing goes other than, if you want to call it chequers, by all means call it, but you have to drop whole sections from it which are simply not wanted by the eu, and not wa nted simply not wanted by the eu, and not wanted by parliament. free trade is the answer. at what point does a leader's credibility go? theresa may was a remainer, and she is leading a government that is taking us out of the eu. she threw her weight behind chequers, and that looks like it's

on its way out. i know you have said that with previous decisions that we re that with previous decisions that were made you blame advisers for not giving the correct advice. but in the end there has been a lot of com pletes the end there has been a lot of completes changing of positions and cana completes changing of positions and can a leader keep on doing that?” think this is such a peculiar arrangement that we can't see it through the normal prism of normal government politics. i think this is a process of finding an arrangement that suits both sides ultimately and that suits both sides ultimately and that requires as much the eu to recognise what is standing in the way, and what would really get through the house of commons and be acceptable, which is a properfree trade arrangement, which they have kind of offered but they now need to ta ke kind of offered but they now need to take the next step. i think for the government, my advice, if it would be taken by them! my advice would be, don't get a ludicrously stubborn about the chequers deal and recognise you made an effort. i don't think it was going to work,

but you made an effort and they don't want it. now you have to say, the only thing on the table is free—trade. you have to decide what you will do to bend to get that particular element and put the ball in their court. or to stand firm and say, actually, do they want no deal less tha n say, actually, do they want no deal less than we do? it's much the same. say to them, if you don't want anything and you are not prepared to agree or be flexible in any way, then we go to the world trade organisation and we make those preparations. ireland will certainly suffer very badly and the eu knows that will have an impact on their ownjobs as much that will have an impact on their own jobs as much as we have it. that will have an impact on their ownjobs as much as we have it. my general view is that ultimately we will be all right under wto. but i would prefer to see a good relationship with the eu on free trade. that's the music coming out of downing street. they are right about it, prepare what you think will be the final end point if you think the eu is not prepared to be flexible. if they really want free trade, the ball is in their court.

you come back and tell us how you'll resolve the backstop and irish border, which we think is wholly soluble in terms of practical elements, nothing to do with grandstanding. i think that is the way through. iain duncan smith, thank you. radek sikorski, who was foreign minister of poland when donald tusk — now president of the eu council — was prime minister. thank you forjoining us. what is your perspective on how things are unfolding? well, it's turning out that there are trade—offs whether you are inside the european union or outside the european union. it's just when you are inside you have a veto and much more influence. so this eurosceptic, brexit fantasy that britain can enter a world in which it gets all the arrangements that it likes without any obligations and trade—offs, that fa ntasy obligations and trade—offs, that fantasy is now being verified. you

are saying that effectively your view is that it was never going to bea view is that it was never going to be a negotiation? it's not a divorce, it's a resignation. the clu b divorce, it's a resignation. the club continues with 27 members. and britain says we are the resigning. we didn't like the fee or the bylaws of the club. but after we leave the club, we still want to use the club facilities. and the committee says, well, no, actually. we have our rules, and overseas membership is not something we like. it's a good analogy, but obviously it's not as straightforward as that because the eu trade is with the uk and has things to lose as well in the event of the uk leaving without a deal. it does but the conviction in

brussels is that, because britain has a huge deficit in the trade of goods, and it makes up for it somewhat with the trade in services, and under wto rules, customs on goods are very minimal and britain would be cut off from easy access to the trade in services, and also because, for the eu, britain is about 15% of our trade, whereas for you, trade with the continent is up toa you, trade with the continent is up to a half of your trade, so the conviction is that britain would be effected between three and five times more than the eu. what do you think about the way theresa may has handled all of this? she is trying to square the ideologues in her own

party with the realities of eu law. the eu is not going to get involved in the negotiations in various factions in the tory party, that's not what we do. what we do is defend the integrity of the single market is written down in the treaties. and also we will obviously protect the interests of a member state, ireland, which has to decide what is the bigger interest for ireland, trade with britain or the lack of a border on the island. but britain's position in this is weakening by the month. soon enough, britain will not have a veto. how would you rate the chances of a deal now?” have a veto. how would you rate the chances of a deal now? i don't think chequers was acceptable to the eu for legal reasons and this has been clearly stated now so i suspect we

will have to go to a full—blown wto style brexit. the brexiteerfan city —— fantasy has to be tested in reality and we will see the consequences. thank you forjoining us. still to come... lily allen joked that she'd been robbed as indie band wolf alice won this year's mercury prize. we'll bring you all the gossip from the night injust a moment. time for the latest news. here's annita. the headlines on bbc news. a senior cabinet minister has warned that britain is heading for a no—deal brexit unless the eu softens its position on the issue of the irish border. the transport secretary, chris grayling, says it's impossible for the government to agree to northern ireland having customs rules that are different to the rest of the uk. yesterday, at the end of the salzburg summit, theresa may's chequers plan was rejected by eu leaders. but she insists it's the only credible option. at 12:30pm this lunchtime

on the bbc news channel, we'll be getting the answers about the uk's future outside the eu means for healthcare and the nhs. what do you want to know? text your questions to 6112a. email to askthis@bbc.co.uk. or tweet using the hashtag bbcaskthis. the metropolitan police has admitted for the first time that an undercover officer had a sexual relationship with an environmental activist with the knowledge of his bosses. officer mark kennedy posed as mark stone and had a two—year relationship with kate wilson. legal documents seen by the bbc show that his bosses knew about the relationship and allowed it to continue. scotland yard said it would be inappropriate to comment because of ongoing legal action. rescue teams in northern tanzania have resumed their efforts to find survivors of a ferry that capsized on lake victoria, after halting operations overnight.

local media say at least 80 people have died, with many still missing. officials have said the ferry was carrying more than a00 passengers. parts of the uk have been hit by heavy rain, flooding and strong winds from storm bronagh. this is the moment a passer—by rescued an elderly lady from her flooded car. richard hamshaw is seen wading through the water to get to the driver after she became trapped. the storm moved eastwards across wales and england overnight, and police warned motorists to take extra care during the morning rush hour. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. thank you. it's one of the most prestigious awards in music, for the best british or irish album. and last night the mercury prize went to... wolf alice... cheering. ..for their album visions of a life. cheering.

the group beat the likes of noel gallagher, arctic monkeys and lily allen to lift the trophy, with their album, visions of a life, praised byjudges as "an exuberant tapestry of swirling pop, grunge and indie guitar rock." let's hear some more from them. this is don't delete the kisses, # what if it's not meant for me? # love...# our entertainment correspondent colin paterson was at the ceremony, and joins me now. it is always my time to feel like a

real fogey when this comes at! it is always my time to feel like a real fogey when this comes aflm helps people catch up, that is the idea, these 12 albums and you can try it out. one of the reasons they have the big names is to entice people in and then the smaller acts but wolf alice are in the middle. they are well known to music fans, they headlined the radio one stage at reading and leeds and the album went to number two in the charts, only chennai twain kept it off number one! for many people it will be a case of them not knowing them. that exuberant tapestry description is not bad, it sums them up. favourite of many film directors. danny boyle used their music in trainspotting 2. they have celebrity fans. and what

will winning the monetary prize do for them? it will give them and immediate sales boost —— the mercury prize. as i said next year they will be on the main stages of a lot of festivals, especially with organisers on the lookout for female fronted bands. it's the first female fronted bands. it's the first female fronted act to win the mercury prize since pj harvey seven years ago and the band were taken aback as you could see on stage. they gave a shambolic acceptance speech! there was a lot of swearing but i grabbed them afterwards and i could see how moved they were so why did it mean so much to them? i think i've always found being a musician, being a performer, the whole music industry, extremely intimidating and been scared about it and not

known what i was doing. but here we are, we're all best friends and we still don't know what we're doing, but we're here. you know, it means everything. i don't know... i don't know the answer to that question. i'm just so happy! she laughs. we're too happy to even talk on it right now. it's very much an award for an album. why does the album still matter in 2018? we're probably one of the last generations that grew up listening to albums and cds and stuff. that's how we got into music, that's what we love, and i think it's an important medium. i think things will progress, obviously, but it's up to you, you know? this is the trophy, hold it up for the camera. there's a £25,000 prize which they say they're going to spend the rest of the evening deciding how to spend. i expect they have decided a lot of exciting things by now! you ask them about the album in general. how

popular are album sales? year on year they are down 26% which is a majorfall and year they are down 26% which is a major fall and that includes streaming. if you stream something on apple music or spotify, it counts towards these album sales. the very notion of listening to a collection of songs is something that new music fa ns of songs is something that new music fans are simply not doing in the way that people did in the past but then you have acts like wolf alice who say just how much you have acts like wolf alice who sayjust how much the album still means to them, it was the reason they went into music, to make a body of work. you have this strange contradiction where the artists love making albums but the consumers might notand making albums but the consumers might not and maybe a new generation of artists might not have the respect for the album as previous ones. thank you. coming up... with just days before the bbc hit drama series bodyguard reaches its climax, we have an exclusive preview of the final episode and will be joined by one of its stars. some universities are being accused

of making misleading, unverifiable claims about their standing in university league tables and rankings. the consumer association which says one university claimed to be in the top 35 in all university ranking tables, despite no information being given to substantiate the claim. another university said it was in the top 1% when it was actually in the top 15%. while another ambiguously claimed to be "ranked consistently among the world stop universities", but did not verify what that meant anywhere on its website. let's talk to neena bhati, head of campaigns at which? conor ryan, from the office for students, the independent regulator of higher education. charles heymann, communications and reputation advisor. he was head of communications at reading university who, last year, were ordered to stop using the claim that they were in the top 1% of universities globally. welcome to all of you and thank you

for joining welcome to all of you and thank you forjoining us. neena, tell us about your concerns. we know that students are bombarded with information when applying for university and many universities make claims about being in the top percent of world rankings. we were concerned that not all of these claims were true or could be potentially misleading and breaching advertising laws. we looked across some of the top universities in the league tables in the uk and at some of the claims they made and found that six universities were making claims they could not substantiate about their rankings and what their leadership in certain areas. when we presented these two universities, five out of six make changes to their website to either make the claim more accurate or remove them entirely. charles, you were head of communications at reading university which was

criticised for doing exactly this. are the universities knowingly stretching a claim about how they stand in terms of rankings?” stretching a claim about how they stand in terms of rankings? i think certainly in the case of reading we did not set out to materially mislead. i think there is a blurring of the line where the two main university rankings say that if you're in the top 200, that equates to being in the top 1%. because there were 20,000 universities? the only rank a thousand each and that was the sticking point that the advertising standards authority found when they came to investigate reading. reading was one of the first universities last year to been found in breach of advertising code. for us it was a fair cop, we put our hands up. we faced it out. and we actually went public with it. we thought it was important for the

advertising standards authority to actively and progressively police the system but also we wanted to tell other universities to learn the lessons here. you are no different to any other business. you have a responsibility to be a fair and responsible advertiser but also a responsibility to students as well to give them impartial, unbiased and independently verified information. so we got a statement from the university of reading which said they applauded tap! which for the review, they were proud to take the lead on the issue and they want the same high standards in the ads as they have in their classrooms and lecture theatres. if a university is ranked ina lecture theatres. if a university is ranked in a global study as being in the top 200 when there are 20,000 universities globally, it is not actually wrong, is it? to sate your in the top 1%? actually wrong, is it? to sate your in the top 196? it is up to universities to make sure they are substantiating those claims on the website and make it clear how they

are representing those statistics that if they say they are in the top 196, that if they say they are in the top 1%, explain it is because they are in the top 200 out of 20,000, not compelling to other league tables where students will look for information. looking across different website and at different claims, we found it very hard to find exactly what the facts and figures were that universities were using to ensure those claims were accurate. how important is it to stu d e nts accurate. how important is it to students when they are picking a university and they see this sort of stuff? university and they see this sort of stuff ? h ow university and they see this sort of stuff? how much is a decision based on i think it's really important that students, and the parents and teachers advising on, look for impartial advice. don't teachers advising on, look for impartialadvice. don'tjust teachers advising on, look for impartial advice. don't just look at the university website. they have a duty to provide the impartial advice we are talking about, but look at sites like uni stats .com, where students will offer their own

opinions and you can look at job offers and earnings. there are independent sites like student room where you can hear from students. don't take at face value what you get from the university. with the best will in the world, marketing departments are accept your waiting — — acce ntuating departments are accept your waiting —— accentuating the positive. departments are accept your waiting -- accentuating the positive. but stu d e nts -- accentuating the positive. but students have made decisions on the basis of those claims. if that is on the official paperwork or on a website, why would you suspect it is not actually true? you might think you don't need to scrutinise that any more. i think it's really important to look at independent sites, weather is good work being done, but it's also to universities to recognise they have legal responsibilities under consumer protection law and advertising law, so protection law and advertising law, so they are legally required to do this. as the regulator, one of the things we are looking at is, are they having due regard to consumer protection law, because we are there

to pick the interests of students on this. it is hard to get into university these days. there is that doublethink, students desperately trying to get into the university do wa nt trying to get into the university do want and universities desperately trying to attract. it is tempting for universities to really sell themselves. at the moment universities operate in a buyers market. there is a smaller number of 18—year—olds in the uk. they have got a much greater choice of universities to go to. and that means universities are operating in a very tough and very competitive market for students. and actually it's a relatively immature market for students. a number of years ago, consumer law and complying with advertising regulationsjust consumer law and complying with advertising regulations just wasn't

on universities‘ agendas. advertising regulations just wasn‘t on universities‘ agendas. i think the great thing that which? are doing today is highlighting that this is an issue. it‘s a wake—up call for universities to get their house in order. it's not actually that many universities doing this. six out of 130 identified by which? it isa six out of 130 identified by which? it is a small number, but we believe the stakes are high for students when they apply for university. a lot of effort goes into deciding where to go, visiting campuses and looking at all the information and making sure it's the right choice for them, because it making sure it's the right choice forthem, because it is making sure it's the right choice for them, because it is a huge financial impact that it will have on them in terms of investment. and also around how that degree will help them move on to their future careers and where they want to go next. what we say is that they need factual information, presented to them, so they can make the best choices for them and their futures. thank you all very much for coming bodyguard is the biggest new drama on british

television in over a decade, pulling in 10.a million viewers with the first episode alone. with average audience figures of 8 million for the latest episode, the story of troubled police sergeant david budd has continued to grip the nation and set social media alight with conspiracy theories. the mystery will be concluding this sunday on bbc one in an extended 75—minute special. so what can we expect from the finale? here‘s a sneak peak. luke akins. we are exploring whether he played a role in the assassination of the home secretary. possible motivation could be to prevent increased scrutiny in coming occasions. and a play in organised crime, and he has always successfully avoided criminal charges. as i know. yes, i saw in the file. you led the organised crime unit? across the investigation

into the activities? that for some time ago. why wasn't i informed earlier about enquiry? who initiated it. i'm acting on the enquiry from david. a little preview of what we can expect on sunday. speaking to kirsty wark on newsnight last night, bodyguard creatorjed mercurio faced a tricky question from a particularly important fan of the show. such is the interest in the show that we asked its fans earlier on twitter to send us questions from them. amongst those who replied was the actress keeley hawes who urged us to ask: is julia montague alive? so, of course, i did. well, i'm going to say what everyone is expecting me to say, which is you'lljust have to wait. keeley and i were exchanging texts today and we're kind of enjoying the experience of winding everyone up, so we're looking forward to what the reaction will be on sunday night. let‘s speak now to

stuart bowman, who plays stephen hunter—dunn, director general of the security service m15. thanks for coming in. there‘s literally no point asking that question but how much fun is it being a part of all of this? having a major secret that 10 million people want to know the answer to... it's people want to know the answer to... it‘s a lot of fun. it‘s great. if i said the final scene on sunday night at10:10pm said the final scene on sunday night at 10:10pm was julie montague‘s zombie hand coming out and grabbing david budd and dragging him into the underworld, people would believe it. is it? it might be. people arejust desperate to know and not to know same time. it‘s been lovely. desperate to know and not to know same time. it's been lovely. have you ever been involved in anything like this before? it‘s been massive. i don‘t think anyone has been

involved in anything like this before. it‘s the biggest show in ten or 12 years, the biggest opening viewing figures. no, i definitely haven‘t been, but it feels like the shared experience, which is lovely. i watched it live for the first time with my partner last week and watching her gasping and knowing that seven or 8 million people were watching and doing the same thing at the same time was a lovely feeling. i think everyone watching it is aware of that, that the rest of the nation is watching at the same time and going through the same emotions. do you have to get sworn to secrecy? i don‘t know if i did sign anything, actually. that‘s a point, i could tell you... actually. that‘s a point, i could tell you. .. no actually. that‘s a point, i could tell you... no one is listening! but why would you. you want to play the game. it must be all anyone is talking to you about. do you get recognised? not at all. no, which i‘m quite glad about. because once

you start talking about it, that‘s the only thing you talk about. i went to the theatre the other night to see little shop of horrors at regents park. he was fabulous, my friend, and the show was fabulous and stop my friend and i were gushing about this thing we had just seen. but my friend was saying, no, let‘s talk about bodyguard. we can get away from it. it‘s lovely. let‘s talk about bodyguard. we can get away from it. it's lovely.” have to admit, last week‘s episode i found pretty confusing. like a lot of people, i think, i found pretty confusing. like a lot of people, ithink, i hope... there are so many red herrings out there that you don‘t trust anybody. there are so many loose ends. there are at the moment. they get tied up. the last episode is genius. in that it does everything everything comes together. i don‘t think there is anything that‘s unsatisfactory. that‘s good. that‘s what i was

worrying about. it you have invested all this time in something, all the excitement, talking about it, and if it is unsatisfactory at the end and something niggling at who does get tied up... i don't think there is anything. i have to look at the last episode again a couple of days ago and it is deeply satisfying. —— i had to look. it is fabulous, it really is. there are extraordinary things happening. when did you first know how it ended? did you know at the beginning? no, we didn't get the second set of three scripts until about three days before we started shooting them, i think. so we had the weekend, after finishing shooting them, i think. so we had the weekend, afterfinishing on friday, and we had the weekend to read the scripts. when did you film it? it was september of last year that i started. september, october. i was doing versailles before that and we finished filming that in

paris, and then i quickly packed up my apartment in paris and came over here and started work on bodyguard a week after i finished the site. do you have a window in your schedule for series two? i do have a window, yes? have you signed up? i don't think anyone has signed anything, as far as think anyone has signed anything, as farasi think anyone has signed anything, as faras i am think anyone has signed anything, as far as i am aware. do you expect there to be a second series?” far as i am aware. do you expect there to be a second series? i would be amazed if there wasn‘t. there to be a second series? i would be amazed if there wasn't. but if they tie everything up, how could there be? it is called bodyguard. there are many options with a name like bodyguard. is that a clue? could david budd not be in the next series? could he end up meeting the same fate as julia? it‘s series? could he end up meeting the same fate asjulia? it‘sjed mercurio, anything is possible. you have said all the excitement

afterwards has been a great thing but what was it like working on it? it was quite intense. most of my scenes were one on one with keeley, and we were in cahoots and it was kind of light relief because could twinkle a little. but the stuff in the home office were high—stakes scenes, soap jeanna the home office were high—stakes scenes, soapjeanna mckee and i were in conflict. —— so tempo mac and i. and the stuff with mike as well. —— so gina mckee and i. it moved quite quickly, we got on with the shoot, so there wasn‘t much time to hang around. but watching the other performances you were thinking, these people are good, this is good, and it‘s a nice thing to be apart of. you feel a pressure to perform

and get it right when you are with so many actors. will you all get together on sunday to watch it? that would be fun. it would, but i think eve ryo ne would be fun. it would, but i think everyone is off at work doing other things. it would be a bit weird as well. i am things. it would be a bit weird as well. iam having things. it would be a bit weird as well. i am having a few folk round. i think six people are coming round to the house and eating lasagne and watching bodyguard. that would be a nice thing to be of. and jed mercurio has been quite defensive about people saying... it‘s not realistic. there are people involved who are well informed who played a pa rt who are well informed who played a part in making it what it is.” trusted him implicitly on what this is and his reaction shows how much he cares and how much attention he has paid to these things. i think he has paid to these things. i think he has been quite insulted by things saying that hasn‘t happened when it clearly has. so i can understand his

ire. loads of people are watching, but not everyone, so they will have to try to not see any spoilers from here on to catch up on the whole thing. you would be crazy not to watch it live on sunday because how would you avoid spoilers? if they have avoided them so far you‘re doing well. i have known it from watching football matches. it‘s almost impossible, somebody gives something away. i think the viewing figures, if the sensible, will go up enormously on sunday. still time to binge watch before sunday if you are not up to speed. thank you for coming in. my pleasure. let‘s catch up with the weather now. things could turned stormy this weekend. stormy last night. a huge

amount of rain in the last 2a hours. sheffield had 61 millimetres falling in the space of a day, that‘s close toa in the space of a day, that‘s close to a month‘s worth of rainfall. goodbye to storm bronagh, which is now heading to scandinavia. we are opening the door to air from the north atlantic. still blustery out there and it will feel substantially cooler than some of you have experienced this week, most notably the further south you are. the radar shows the more persistent rain is limited to northern parts of scotland, a scattering of showers elsewhere across western parts and still a blustery wind. could still see wind blast at around gale force but the ease down compared to what some of you saw overnight. showers to the west will come with the odd rumble of thunder and some hail as well. enough of a breeze to push east. longer spells of rain mixed in among that. one or two spots in the south—east of england and later this afternoon across northern scotland will stay largely dry with some sunshine. with the northwest wind, especially with showers coming your

way, it will feel much cooler than it has done. temperatures today, 10 degrees in lowick, 13 in glasgow and belfast, a high of 17 in london, that‘s 63 fahrenheit, down on the mid—20s we have seen this week. a cooler day, showers fading away and the wind becoming lighter. showers continuing over the weekend across the north—west of the uk, but clear skies in rural areas will see temperatures drop below. these are the city centre values but we could see a touch of frost on the ground. the far north of scotland and the far south of england, a lovely start, but quickly turning hazy from the south—west with rain pushing in an spreading across south wales and southern counties of england in the afternoon and maybe the south midlands. north of that, the sunshine turning hazy this afternoon with isolated showers, but the vast majority stay dry. not an especially warm day. a cool night to take us into sunday. we turn our attention to this area of low pressure that is set to develop as it moves to our

shores, coming with a certain degree of uncertainty. how deep and stormy that loco be and how far north and south. the core of the low pressure system moving along the south coast is what we see at the moment. heaviest across england and wales. as it pulls away the wind could become strong later on. scotland and northern ireland having the best of weather throughout the weekend. hello, it‘s friday, it‘s ten o‘clock. brexiteers hit back at eu leaders‘ behaviour after they dismiss theresa may‘s plan as unworkable. i thought it was appalling. i think to have gone out of your way to try to ridicule an individual like this was rather revealing — one of the reasons why people wanted to leave. but the eu argues that the uk can‘t just cherry pick what it wants. we will have to go to a full—blown, wto—style brexit. the brexiteer fantasy has to be tested in reality. and then we will see the consequences.

thousands of patients given contaminated blood in the 19705 and 80s after childbirth or an operation may not realise they‘re living with a life threatening illness. this programme hears from those who‘ve been affected. every six months i think, am i going to dodge the bullet this time? and the mental trauma now is awful. because, how many six—month tests can i be lucky for? when is my time going to be up? jackie britton has cirrosis of the liver caused by hepatitis c. we‘ll hear her story and ask how many other people might have been affected by the worst ever nhs treatment scandal and not even know it. do you row over recycling? bbc research shows families don‘t know which bin to put their waste plastics into and almost half of us argue about it. here‘s annita mcveigh

is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the day‘s news. good morning. a senior cabinet minister has warned that britain is heading for a no—deal brexit unless the eu softens its position on the issue of the irish border. the transport secretary, chris grayling, says it‘s impossible for the government to agree to northern ireland having customs rules that are different to the rest of the uk. yesterday, at the end of the salzburg summit, theresa may‘s chequers plan was rejected by eu leaders. but she insists it‘s the only credible option. at 12:30pm on the bbc news channel we‘ll be asking what a post—brexit future holds for health care and the nhs. put your questions to us now foran nhs. put your questions to us now for an expert to answer. the metropolitan police has admitted for the first time that

an undercover officer had a sexual relationship with an environmental activist with the knowledge of his bosses. officer mark kennedy posed as mark stone and had a two—year relationship with kate wilson. legal documents seen by the bbc show that his bosses knew about the relationship and allowed it to continue. scotland yard said it would be inappropriate to comment because of ongoing legal action. rescue teams in northern tanzania have resumed their efforts to find survivors of a ferry that capsized on lake victoria, after halting operations overnight. local media say at least 80 people have died, with many still missing. officials have said the ferry was carrying more than a00 passengers. security concerns have been raised about the imminent release from prison of the radical preacher anjem choudary and other followers of the banned al—muhajiroun group. choudary was jailed for five and a half years in 2016 for his support of the so—called islamic state. a former al—muhajiroun member has

told the bbc choudary‘s release comes at the same time as the threat of far right extremism is growing, which could create a potentially "disastrous cocktail." bbc news has discovered that councils across the uk have nearly a0 different sets of rules for recycling plastic, while some authorities don‘t take any plastic. the government has said it wants to make the process more straightforward and to increase domestic recycling rates. this programme has been told that thousands of patients given contaminated blood in the 19705 and 80s after childbirth or an operation may not realise they‘re living with a life threatening illness. next week a major public inquiry starts into the scandal, which is often called the worst treatment disaster in the history of the nhs. we‘ll be hearing from those who‘ve been affected. wolf alice are this year‘s mercury prize winners. the group‘s album, ‘visions of a life‘, beat the likes of noel gallagher, arctic monkeys and lily allen. the london four—piece were almost lost for words as they took to the stage to accept

the £25,000 prize. the group say they plan to invest the money by building a studio to record their third album next year. that‘s a summary of the latest bbc news. more at 10:30am. thank you. let‘s get some sport now. olly is at the bbc sport centre. good morning. the arsenal manager, unai emery, has asked the club‘s fans and his team to embrace the europa league. they won their opening match in the group stage last night but the emirates stadium was only half—full. they beat ukrainian side vorskla poltava a—2. pierre—emerick aubameyang scored twice as they went a—0 up. emery won the europa league three years in a row with sevilla and he says it is an important competition. i think it step—by—step. i am sure they are going to come little by

little more, more supporters here with us but also it is our work to bring them here. so, arsenal winning at home, chelsea were on the road in northern greece, they were quite wasteful with some of their finishing against paok salonika but still won 1—0. willian with the goal. it was also a good night for the two scottish sides in the europa league. rangers had a really tough opening match away at villareal in spain. they were losing with 15 minutes to play but kyle lafferty equalised, his first european goal. it finished 2—2. rangers are unbeaten in nine european matches this season. their qualifying campaign started back injuly. they‘ve played more europa league matches than domestic games. celtic have started the group stage with a win — the first time they‘ve done that in 17 years in europe. they left it very late. leigh griffiths with the winner against rosenborg in the 87th minute at celtic park. sergio aguero has signed a one—year contract extension with manchester city to take him through to 2021. the 30—year—old joined

the club in 2011 and is their record goalscorer. the argentine has scored 20a goals and won three premier league titles with three different managers. tiger woods looks to be in good form ahead of next week‘s ryder cup. he has a share of the lead on 5—under—par with us team—mate rickie fowler after the first round of the tour championship in atlanta. justin rose is one shot off the lead. anthony joshua and alexander povetkin will weigh in later today for their heavyweight world title fight at wembley tomorrow night. joshua is putting all three of his belts on the line against his russian opponent. potevkin failed two separate drugs tests a couple of years ago. one of them for meldonium, the drug that maria sharapova fell foul of and he also tested positive for a steroid—like substance, before one of his fights. he escaped a lengthy ban. my opinion is, you know,

if you are on drugs, you get banned, simple as that, yeah? number two, it‘s not for me to make that decision, i‘m not part of the committee, but i do believe in a fairfight. it‘s not like golf or something and i‘m trying to improve my swing. i‘m going in there to enhance my performance, knock you out and it damages my opponent‘s health if that was me. i think there should be more severe cautions. but i have always been in the business, in boxing, on focusing on myself. not worried about what the committees, the judges or the referees are doing. wembley is expected to be a sell—out of 80,000 for that fight tomorrow evening. thank you. what is next for brexit? the leader of the european council said that theresa may‘s trade plan would not work. laura

kuenssberg has treated as saying that chapter this morning about a big statement from the pm with number ten sources saying it will not happen. who knows what happens by the time we land? we can speak now to the conservative mp and former cabinet minister dominic grieve, who believes the prime minister should not be blamed if there is no deal, and is urging her not to step down. thank you forjoining us. do you think there will be no deal? there isa think there will be no deal? there is a risk there will be no deal. it is a risk there will be no deal. it is more likely they will offer us a deal. i think the eu wants to give us want the difficulty is whether it a cce pta ble us want the difficulty is whether it acceptable and the prime minister or parliament can live with it and i‘m afraid that was inherent in these negotiations. it is not the fault of the prime minister. she has been asked to do is a big boys trying to do the big as a result of the referendum result that is extremely difficult and that is to have the advantages of having mentorship of eu whilst not being in it. the eu is

an international treaty organisation underpinned by a rule book so that‘ll be a very difficult thing to get. have we all been sold a pup? we we re get. have we all been sold a pup? we were in the referendum because the leaders said it would be easy and it was obvious at the time that it wasn‘t and it was immensely, bigoted and unless you believe, like jacob rees—mogg believes, that the uk should sever all ties with the eu, then the sort of halfway house we are trying to negotiate which is really what is happening was always going to be very congregated. the trouble is, for my mind, jacob rees—mogg‘s proposal is completely crazy. it will ruin our economy, put thousands of people out ofjobs and in the long term badly affect our well—being. there are inherent flaws in the entire brexit project. the imf has said there would be dire consequences of the uk leaving with no deal, reduced growth, increased

budget deficit, depreciation of the currency and a reduction in the size of the economy in relatively short order. how worried should we be? we should be worried about it, it is an appalling consequence and i can‘t think of any government in peace time that has deliberately set out to deliver to the british people a reduction in their living standards. but that is one of the consequences thatis but that is one of the consequences that is now flowing from brexit if we can‘t get the right outcome. that is now flowing from brexit if we can't get the right outcomem terms of the right outcome, what would that look like? there are a number of possibilities. one is that the prime minister succeed in persuading our eu partners to give as the exceptional deal she has been talking about which i‘m afraid i think is quite unlikely or the alternative is she has to go back to the british public and explain to them what the realities are which we re them what the realities are which were not around two years ago, and ask them what they want to do. do

they want a jacob rees—mogg style brexit of the kind the imf characterises as being economically disastrous or do they want to stay in the eu? but the people have spoken, they want to leave. people speak in general elections all the time and five years later they change their mind. the idea that a decision is immutable when circumstances change is complete nonsense. when i ask you about being sold a pup, what i meant more about was the kind of negotiations in terms of, sort of indicating a negotiation is possible because what is coming out of europe just has not changed from the beginning, has it? they are saying that these are the terms and they are not budging at all. they have been fairly consistent. that is not to say they will not budge. all negotiations showed some flexible day but i think there was a fundamental misunderstanding about the amount of flexibility the eu can show as an international treaty organisation towards a country that is no longer

a member. they can show great sensibility towards their members but when they are negotiating a third country trade deals as it talking about, it is much more complicated. i spoke to the former polish foreign minister earlier visit is not a divorce but a resignation and if you don‘t like the club, you leave it and you can‘t change the rules. he has a perfectly legitimate point. they are under no obligation to alter their rules to accommodate us. of course it is in the interest to have long—term trading agreement with the uk but that has to be balanced against the other interests, one of which is maintaining the cohesion of the eu itself and what it was set up to achieve available plane filled for trading goods and services. we are asking for exceptional privileges and complaining when we have difficulty getting them when it was inherent this would be a problem and it should have been properly understood at the time we voted to go. from everything you are saying,

you‘re saying you hope there is a deal, but how would you rate the chances of it? it does not sound that it chances of it? it does not sound thatitis chances of it? it does not sound that it is likely now. i must say i‘m not very optimistic that we will get a deal that will satisfy people at that slightly different. i think we‘ll be offered something at the end of this process, i don‘t think the eu wishes to bring the negotiations to a complete grinding halt and say, go away with no deal, but what they are likely to offer us is going to be very difficult for the promised or sections of the public or parliament to accept which is why i think we will have to reconsider what were doing. and what about theresa may? her position? there is no point in blaming her because she took this job on in very difficult circumstances and it was inherently problematic. if you were to replace her, iam problematic. if you were to replace her, i am convinced in my mind that her, i am convinced in my mind that her replacement would not find this issue any easier. are there enough

tory mps that would want to see her replaced to make that happen? well, there might be, that‘s possible. but i don‘t happen to think it would be in the national interest to do it. does she have credibility, though? she has put forward chequers, saying it is my deal or no deal. it was pretty embarrassing what happened in salzburg. i think salzburg can be exaggerated. there will always be negotiating glitches and moments that would appear embarrassing in negotiations. it doesn‘t get you away from the fundamental problem of the negotiations, though. we are asking for something that the eu, as an international treaty organisation, cannot readily give us. who do you blame for the situation we are in? well, i blame those who misled the british public in the referendum about the ease with which brexit could be carried out. yes, i do have a strong measure of blame towards those who said

things that were in fact completely inaccurate, and obviously inaccurate at the time they did it. but don't people on the other side have to ta ke people on the other side have to take responsibility as well, for not having had the sort of discussions that we are having now? there is absolutely no reason why the reports that are being done now couldn‘t have been done pre—brexit, that the irish border issue couldn‘t have been foreseen and debated properly before bust up i accept that entirely. -- properly before. i accept that entirely. i thought the remaining campaign was handled badly at the time and a lot of issues that needed to be discussed were not. the referendum had a lot of negative aspects on both sides. but the fa ntasy aspects on both sides. but the fantasy element, the nature of the future relationship, wasn‘t i —— was entirely beat rachel notley leave campaign. where will we be in six months‘ time? —— was entirely the

creation of the leave campaign.” have no idea, but i think would be best to ask the opinion of the british public. do letters know your opinion. use the usual hashtag. coming up... the bbc has found that there as many as 39 different sets of council coming up... confused over recycling? the bbc has found that there as many as 39 different sets of council rules for recycling plastic. so talk us through what can be recycled and what can‘t and to plastic. a great tip for people is when you are recycling a plastic bottle, the best way is to make sure it is empty, give it a squish... squish the air out of it. get the lid back on those that means the lid will go on to be recycled as well as the bottle. idid not i did not know that. and helen will be us injust a moment with more tips about what you should and shouldn‘t throw away. some victims of the worst treatment scandal in nhs history may still be living ? undiagnosed ? with a life threatening disease, this programme has been told.

thousands were infected with hepatitis c and hiv after being given contaminated blood in the 19705 and 805. this programme has reported extensively on adults and children with the blood disorder haemophilia. but less is known about a second group ? patients given donated blood after childbirth or an operation. next week a major public inquiry starts into the scandal, as jim reed reports. you‘ve got to face your demons. that‘s what this enquiry is about. facing down the demons, getting the answers and moving on. jackie britton outside the hospital in portsmouth that saved her life. in 1983, she gave birth here. her baby daughter was fine. jackie, though, later 5tarted haemorrhaging and needed donated blood. i got over the operation, thought everything was fine, and then in 2011 di5covered

that the four units of blood that had actually saved my life was killing me. there are still people dying of ignorance, not knowing that they are infected. the blood jackie was given was infected with hepatitis c. the virus went undetected in her body for years, 5lowly damaging her liver. she didn‘t notice any symptoms until she was in her mid—505. it was ab5olute fatigue. it was like i‘d run a marathon. i would feel physically sick. i would start retching, just stood up cooking a meal, because of the effort and the energy that it was taking out of me. a new generation of drugs means jackie has now cleared the virus itself from her body. but the damage has already been done. she has cirrhosis of the liver and needs checks every six months to make sure it hasn‘t lead to cancer. last year, her friend and fellow campaigner sally vickers

died of the disease. every six months i think, am i going to dodge the bullet this time? and the mental trauma of this now is awful. because how many six—month tests can i be lucky for? when is my time going to be up? i saw sally die last year. she was a shadow... ..of the person, the beautiful, funny, lovely and strong per5on. just a shadow lying in the bed. it was an awful sight that i‘ll never forget. and my daughter was with me, and iju5t pray that her death isn‘t going to be my death. the contaminated blood scandal of the ‘705 and ‘805 is often called the worst treatment di5aster in the history of the nhs.

two major groups were affected. fir5t, people with the blood disorder haemophilia. almost 5,000 were given a treatment contaminated with hepatitis, and in many cases, hiv. then a second group, those like jackie, who received a blood transfusion after childbirth or an operation. the most high profile example is anita ruddock. the body shop founder died in 2007 after contracting hepatitis cfrom donated blood. exactly how many transfusion patients were infected, we just don‘t know for sure. estimates range from 5,000, right up to 28,000. that means there will be some living with hepatitis c today who have not yet been diagnosed. through that whole year, it was really bad. really bad cramps. i was crying, it was so painful. the impacts, not just

on individuals, but also theirfamilies, has been huge. it really went downhill badly. i couldn't do anything. my body was just shot. for bob leary, it all started in 1986 with a burst intestine. rushed to hospital and given a transfusion, he didn‘t think much more of it until four years later when he tested positive for hepatitis c. so, we talked about it and he told me that it was a bad virus. it was having big effects on people, and from the information he had, people were living up to about 15 years. which, as you can imagine, was a very serious shock, because i wasn't very old at the time. they said you had 15 years left? 15 years, that's all they could guarantee. by 2012, bob‘5 liver had started to fail. he becamejaundiced and lost weight drastically. with just weeks left, a liver transplant saved his life. so, looking back, do

you attach blame to anyone, any organisation, for infecting you in the first place? well, at first when the news came out on what had happened and the contaminated bloods, it does obviously go through your mind. you curse and swear to yourself about the people that did this. but at the end of the day, you have got it. so, i don't want to get into the blame culture. i could be bitter all my life, if i go into that area. i would just like to make sure that everybody in politics, in the nhs, they take a lesson from it. we need to try and make sure nothing like this ever happens again. that‘s one reason why a public enquiry open5 in westminster next week. it comes after years of campaigning from victims and their families. tho5e infected through transfusions want some key questions answered. blood screening for hepatitis c was only introduced in this country in 1991.

could the government have moved faster? and did officials know about the risks of contamination but decide, for whatever reason, not to tell the public? forjackie, this is about far more than her life and her health. the sad reality of this scandal is that many of those infected are no longer here. alan lost his wife sally last summer. she just loved living. but she thought she would have longer than what she had. i mean, she was a constant fire. i mean, she was a constant fighter. i think that‘s what took a lot more of her energy away. sally vickers was infected in 1982 after being given donated blood as part of an operation. she died suddenly of liver cancer caused by the hepatitis c. she just passed away, 12:30 on august11th.

it was just so, so quick, iju5t didn‘t... you know, she shouldn‘t have gone. she should not have gone. for both sally and her husband, this was never about her doctors or her care in hospital. in5tead, any anger is directed at the people responsible for the whole blood donation system at the time. she was absolutely fuming. people say, you must hate the nhs. we didn‘t, they were great, the staff and nurses were great. it‘s the actual department of health. they are the people that organised for the bloods to come in. as i say, i want someone held accountable for it. i mean, somebody has got to be accountable for this. not just. .. you know. next week, then, the public enquiry sits. the start of a long process that the families hope will finally answer some of those questions.

the government said in a statement... "the infected blood inquiry is a priority for the government. it is extremely important that all those that have suffered so terribly can get the answers they have spent decades waiting for and lessons can be learnt so that a tragedy of this scale can never happen again. government is committed to providing the inquiry with all the support it needs." let‘s speak now to rachel halford who is deputy chief executive at the hepatitis c trust. thank you for coming in. we got a real sense from the report there about how absolutely devastating this has been for people. and you fear there are people out there who simply don‘t know they have hepatitis c as a result of a blood transfusion from decades ago. absolutely. we have a helpline we have run for many years. on a weekly basis we receive calls from people who have recently been diagnosed, or we re who have recently been diagnosed, or were perhaps diagnosed a little while ago but had no idea that their

hepatitis c was contracted through infected blood. quite often they are given a diagnosis and then they ring up given a diagnosis and then they ring up because they are distressed and wa nt up because they are distressed and want support. it‘s only through delving into their story that it comes to light that actually their hepatitis c was contracted through infected blood many years ago, which they quite possibly would not associate with themselves because it happened 30 or a0 years ago. it might have been a car accident, maybe a woman giving birth who was given a transfusion at the time. so yes, lots of calls. what's the age range of people coming forward? does it tend to be older people?m range of people coming forward? does it tend to be older people? it tends to be older people, people in their 505, and we have a woman who rings regularly at the moment who is in her 805. that‘s not to say... there have been examples recently where there are younger women, in their 305 or a05, who were given blood transfusions as babies. it is a

small percentage, but it doesn‘t exclude people who are given blood transfusions in their 305. exclude people who are given blood transfusions in their 30s. would you necessarily know if you had a blood transfusion? you would like to think you would, wouldn‘t you? but life is full. if you had a blood transfusion 30 or a0 years ago, quite often so much changes that you don‘t associate that part of your life, or you forget. it doesn‘t necessarily stay on your doctor‘s records. there are many people, when they find out they are diagnosed, they can‘t find a record of their transfusion. it leads to much more, located —— leads to much more complicated ways of getting support. there are government funds available for people who have been infected but you have to prove that you had a transfusion. if you can‘t prove it because the record doesn‘t exist, you can‘t secure the funds. because the record doesn‘t exist, you can't secure the funds. you can live with it for a very long time

without knowing you have it. when people get tested all this time later, what‘s the story, what‘s going on and what leads to them getting tested and discovering? hepatitis c, they call it a silent killer. you can live with it at least 20 years, probably not feeling anything. maybe things you would associate, you might feel tired. we heard jackie, she used to feel really tired. later on, a bit of brain fade, but you wouldn‘t associate it with necessarily feeling unwell. you just might not feeling unwell. you just might not feel quite right. it can be other illnesses that you are having checks for, or you may have been diagnosed with me. we will hear people have beeniu with me. we will hear people have been ill for a long time and they go to hospitalfor adult been ill for a long time and they go to hospital for adult blood tests and something else is picked up in a liver tests, and they discover they have hepatitis c. it is not commonly looked for. the enquiry starts next week and we will have coverage of that. thank you for coming in. still to come...

radical preacher anjem choudary is due to be released from prison soon along with other followers of the banned extremist group al—muhajiroun. now security concerns are being raised. rowing over recycling — bbc research shows half of us are arguing over which bin our waste plastic goes into. the government is now considering changing the way plastic is recycled in england. time for the latest news. here‘s annita. the bbc news headlines this morning... a senior cabinet minister has warned that britain is heading for a no—deal brexit unless the eu softens its position on the issue of the irish border. the transport secretary, chris grayling, says it‘s impossible for the government to agree to northern ireland having customs rules that are different to the rest of the uk. yesterday, at the end of the salzburg summit, theresa may‘s chequers plan was rejected by eu leaders. but she insists it‘s the only credible option. at 12:30pm today on the bbc news channel, we‘ll be asking what a post—brexit future holds

for healthcare and the nhs. you can put your questions to us now for an expert to answer. text your questions to 6112a, email to askthis@bbc.co.uk, or tweet using the hashtag bbcaskthis. the metropolitan police has admitted for the first time that an undercover officer had a sexual relationship with an environmental activist with the knowledge of his bosses. officer mark kennedy posed as mark stone and had a two—year relationship with kate wilson. legal documents seen by the bbc show that his bosses knew about the relationship and allowed it to continue. scotland yard said it would be inappropriate to comment because of ongoing legal action. rescue teams in northern tanzania have resumed their efforts to find survivors of a ferry that capsized on lake victoria, after halting operations overnight. local media say at least 86 people have died, with many still missing. officials have said the ferry was carrying more than a00 passengers.

wolf alice are this year‘s mercury prize winners. the group‘s album, ‘visions of a life‘, beat the likes of noel gallagher, arctic monkeys and lily allen. the london four—piece were almost lost for words as they took to the stage to accept the £25,000 prize. the group say they plan to invest the money by building a studio to record their third album next year. that‘s a summary of the latest bbc news. thank you. here‘s some sport now with olly. these are our headlines this morning. arsenal won their opening europa league group game a—2 at the emirates. pierre—emerick aubameyang scored twice against ukrainian side vorskla poltava. chelsea won 1—0 away at paok salonika. rangers came from behind twice to draw 2—2 at villareal. they are unbeaten in nine europa league matches this season. celtic beat rosenborg 1—0. sergio aguero has signed a one—year contract extension

with manchester city to take him through to 2021. the 30—year—old joined the club in 2011 and is their record goalscorer. tiger woods looks to be in good form ahead of next week‘s ryder cup. he has a share of the lead with us team—mate rickie fowler after the first round of the tour championship in atlanta. justin rose is one off the lead. that‘s all the sport for now. thank you. security concerns have been raised about the imminent release from prison of the radical preacher anjem choudary and other followers of the banned extremist group al—muhajiroun. the former head of counter—terrorism command at the metropolitan police told the bbc that no one should understimate the harmful impact of the group. i‘m joined by our home affairs correspondent daniel sandford. tell us more about this group. al—muhajiroun, which anjem choudary

was leader of for many years, was a group that espoused an extreme version of islamist take on islam and basically wanted to set up a worldwide caliphate. that was their idea and they didn‘t have any qualms about encouraging violence in certain circumstances. they existed in britain for quite a long time, managing to skirt on the right side of the law and they were eventually banned in 2010 but managed to continue operating under anjem choudary under different names and it was not until 2016 that he was jailed as a result of espousing support for so—called islamic state. since then the group has been reasonably silent but the problem is there is a fear that is about to change. so how much is coming from him? he was very much the charismatic figurehead, the man that did a lot of the meeting behind the scenes but also he was the public

face. he would turn up briefly at demonstrations, he would be the star attraction is it worth and the concern is that when he comes out he will eventually reactivate his followers. in the last few months something like a dozen of his followers have been released from various prison sentences they have been serving or are about to be released and there are some b but on the terrorism prevention measures in rabat to come off those —— are some people. there is a central group that used to be in al—muhajiroun operating and come into much more toxic mix than they used to operate. the far right has now become much more active and a lot of the focus of the far right has been anti—islam. a lot of the charismatic figures on the far right are co nsta ntly figures on the far right are constantly attacking islam so you suddenly have two opposing groups and that is causing a lot of concern. what will happen when they come out? will they be monitored? there are things that can be done.

people serving these senators automatically come out halfway through. he was given five and a half years and he comes up next month and that cannot be stopped but he will be on licence and you can impose license conditions, you can be banned from attending demonstrations or meeting certain people and there might be ways of controlling access to the internet. you could impose one of these terrorism prevention and investigation meshes although we not know if that will be done because people love that applied to them have anonymity —— measures. it‘s someone breaches those conditions they can be taken back into prisons but the concern is that what is going on in prisons is there is so much chaos and a lack of order in prisons that any attempt to de—radicalise people either in their sentences or if they are recalled into prisons is pretty ineffective because there is not the time and resources being spent on that. you have a situation where radicals... al—muhajiroun, 66 of the 269 people

involved in terrorism that i‘ve ended up in the month death or a trial, 66 out of the 269 people in 79 years were linked to al—muhajiroun in some way and the fear is that will become reactivated u nless fear is that will become reactivated unless a serious amount of control can be put on anjem choudary and his supporters. thank you very much. adam deen, former member of al—muhajiroun, who now works for the think tank quilliam. professor richard ekins is head of policy exchange‘s judicial power project. policy exchange is a centre—right thinktank. and haneef qadir is the ceo of the active change foundation, a london—based organization he co—founded in 2003 to encourage young people away from being radicalized. thank you all forjoining us. adam, you have experience of al—muhajiroun and now work against exactly that. what are your thoughts on the

release not just of what are your thoughts on the release notjust of anjem choudary but the others we were hearing about? i'm concerned and i think we should all be. i think it is highly unlikely that anjem has become a reformed extremist and without a doubt his imprisonment would have served as a kind of self fulfilling prophecy and he would have gained a lot of credence in the eyes of his followers and i expect he will rejuvenate their activities. how much of a threat is he? he has always been a threat on no matter if he is in prison or outside. he is too clever and too cunning and the damage has already been done. the seeds are bearing fruit. his activities are going on. distributing leaflets in the street unchallenged. his team, his soldiers are operating today. daniel said it has gone quite quiet since he went

inside. they are not doing the demonstrations that they used to but their soldiers are out there, online and off—line, going into local communities and disrepute into nonsense like this but also encouraging and recruiting young men and women as we speak. the damages that he has done, it is about repairing that that he has done, it is about re pairing that now. that he has done, it is about repairing that now. whether he comes out .com he is a hero to his people. we heard from daniel that 66 of 269 incidents linked to al—muhajiroun, how much has taking anjem choudary out of the picture while he has been in jail out of the picture while he has been injail had an impact on trying to diminish its power? i'm not sure what the answer is i'm afraid. i'm sure it's a good thing to have him detained and i shared the assessment of the damage he has done thus far and the risk of his release after such a short time. it shows a

problem in the law as it stands that he only gets a sentence of five emma is released after halfway seems grossly inadequate —— and he is released. the fact that he has encouraged so people to take up arms against our country and to serve with isis abroad and other very wicked things. how would you quantify the damage that has been done? the statistics show, you look at any kind of terrorist attack, the majority we can draw a straight line with anjem or a member of al—muhajiroun. that is going to continue. the benefit for anjem now is that he has kind of become more astute in terms of what he can and cannot say but what actually compounds the problem is that two yea rs

compounds the problem is that two years back the environment was very different. now what we have is an environment where far right extremism is on the rise, their voices are becoming louder, and the main focus is anti—muslim hate. the entire premise of the al—muhajiroun ideology and propaganda is based on the idea that week, muslims that is, have to be against non—muslims and non—muslims are the enemies of islam. consider that and then you have the growing far right problem of anti—muslim hate is a vicious cocktail. unfortunately, if there are no restrictions on anjem‘s activities and his access to the internet and whom he meets then we are back to square one. there will be restrictions it seems on what he can do because it‘s being released

on licence so access to the internet can be looked at, attending a big gatherings or whatever else. what restrictions would you expect?” think your correspondent outlined what they would involve an obviously it is better than nothing but not as good as continued detention. and the conditions will lapse after two and a half more years when he reaches the end of the overall sentence. he should be sentenced to life imprisonment. the policy exchange report, which i helped write, we should be restoring the law of treason and the kind of actions he undertook were a betrayal of our country and he should be liable to being charged with treason and sentenced to life. tell us more about that, how it would look and what sort of conversations you have had around it. is it something that is being considered? our report was taken up by some senior people, former top counterterrorism police

thatis former top counterterrorism police that is a very serious proposal and the idea is that we have at the law of treason on the books for almost 700 years but has lapsed and fallen into disuse and it would be hard to use the existing law to busted somebody like chaudhry or anyone for treason, it has begun a dead letter —— to treason, it has begun a dead letter — — to prosecute treason, it has begun a dead letter —— to prosecute someone like choudary. we want to follow the lead of someone like australia which changed its law on treason as re ce ntly changed its law on treason as recently as a few months ago to update it. we should restore the law to make it clear that if you help a group or state that is preparing to or is attacking the united kingdom or is attacking the united kingdom or where the group is engaged in combat with uk forces, if you intentionally aid a group like that and help prepare for a tax, helped their intelligence operations or recruit soldiers to their cause, thatis recruit soldiers to their cause, that is the crime of treason. the default punishment for that should be life imprisonment. would you like

to see that come into effect? for people like him, of course. there are a numberof people like him, of course. there are a number of challenges we face with people like him. like i said, the damage he has done is greater than we anticipated and appreciate really. with individuals like him, he is too clever to be caught out again. the licence conditions will be very stringent, probably more so... be very stringent, probably more so... he will be more contained outside than inside a prison actually. i work with individuals who have come out on these offences and his conditions will be very harsh but it will not make the difference to the narrative that he has created. his ambition over the years has been to create this month was “— years has been to create this month was —— monstrosity and give wind to the sales of the far right extremists. yet achieved that and now we have these two monsters competing within our communities for

the same human resource. our young men and women in our communities. hisjob is done, really, he has created his foot soldiers. the problem is that we have not been prepared and we are still not prepared and we are still not prepared to tackle the narrative and the ideology he espouses. adam was talking about the changing picture with the far right. absolutely, this is the damage that was done, this was his objective, to create that competing forces. his job basically has been done. the far right is now on such an increase that it right is now on such an increase thatitis right is now on such an increase that it is estimated there are more individuals referred from the far right extremist element than islamic extremists. what he set out to do, he has achieved that. he is now sitting back and letting things unfold. and that is where the challenge is, organisations and

governments, that's what they are facing. thank you forjoining us. the metropolitan police has admitted for the first time that an undercover officer had a sexual relationship with an environmental activist with the knowledge of his bosses. legal documents, seen by the bbc, reveal that mark kennedy‘s line manager and several other officers knew about his relationship with kate wilson and allowed it to continue. ms wilson — who is currently involved in legal action against the met police told the bbc... "the police have said that these cases were a failure well, in 2012, victoria spoke exclusively to mark kennedy, who‘d spent seven years undercover infiltrating protest groups. during that time he had more than one sexual relationship with women he was spying on. the person i was in love with wasn‘t really involved with situations where i needed to pass on intelligence about her. and in fact, i never did do that. certainly, there were people...

but if you had needed to, would you have done it? would your loyalty have been to the police or to her? in those circumstances, i don‘t think i would have done. so therefore, it was unprofessional. yes. you could say that. but i think i was in a position where... imean... she was a person that was very independent, and still is, i‘m sure. and she is a person who would make up her own mind and decisions about what she wanted to do. and i totally respected that. if she went on something and was arrested for it, that‘s very much her way of doing things, and if that‘s what she wanted to do then she has to stand by that. and i‘m sure she would, as do many other people. but some campaigners said that by having this relationship, by sleeping with this woman, they described it as state—sanctioned abuse, because this woman could not give her informed consent to sleeping with you... that‘s right. because she didn‘t know

who you really were. well, that‘s certainly something that is being addressed by eight women who claim to have had relationships with undercover police officers. but how do you feel about being accused of state—sanctioned abuse? i know that the relationship that we had outside of what names were, was probably one of the most loving experiences i have ever had. but you were lying to her. i was lying to her about my name and who i was, yes. and it‘s very hard to know that‘s really hurt her and she is terribly upset about that. and it‘s something which i‘m still finding very hard to deal with. and will for a long time to come. all i do know is that what we shared and how we shared our lives for four and a half, five years, was an amazing time in the sense that we both supported each other through some very difficult times in our personal lives.

it‘s just very sad that the way and how we fell in love happens to be under the circumstances. do you and your family often disagree about what kind of rubbish you can recycle? research from the bbc has found that almost half of families argue over which bin a plastic item should go in when throwing it away. different councils have different rules on what can be collected — the analysis by the bbc has found as many as 39 variations across the country. the government has now announced a review into how we recycle our plastic. helen bird is the recycling and collections advisor at the recycling charity wrap. margaret bates is professor of sustainable wastes management at the university of northampton. thank you both for coming in. we all know it is confusing. so to help us all out you have brought in a whole load of stuff. i really want to know

what we can actually recycle and what we can actually recycle and what we can actually recycle and what we can‘t. talk is through it. what we can actually recycle and what we can't. talk is through it. really good number of local authorities are now collecting a wide range of plastics. we have gone in the last ten years from 18% to nearly 80% collecting. a good deal of what we call these rigid plastics. it can be a little bit confusing because there are different types of them and that‘s what our research consistently says. take this, for example, the trigger spray cleaning bottle. this could actually be recycled as it is. you don‘t need to worry about removing the top here. or you could reuse it. i reuse things like that a lot. you only need so many, but you can. some of them are tamper—proof and can be tricky to take off, but you are absolutely right. what about this? when you are faced with that, can it all go in the bin? actually, this

film is a different type of plastic to the tray. indeed, ie you have something else, a different type of plastic ear. if you are recycling an item like that, you need to take these bits off. and then you can put this tray into the recycling. this would need to be disposed of in your rubbish bin. interestingly, this is actually the same type of plastic as carrier bags. and although not many local authorities collected film such as these from householders, what you can do is get them together with bread bags and other carrier bags and take them to your supermarkets because most of the biggest supermarkets have got collection points for this film specifically. but you couldn't put it in your recycle bin? the majority of local authorities will not collect those types of films separately. and little plastic

forks? this is an interesting one. actually, i don‘t know what type of plastic this is made of. it could be that it would be eight polypropylene, which that it would be eight polypropylene, which is that it would be eight polypropylene, which is the same as this, which is good strong end markets but i don‘t do what it is. it could also be a compostable plastic. compostable plastics are put in the same recycling stream as these are the ones, it causes contamination issues. so i would not put that in my recycling. but it's possible it could be. even you, the expert, doesn‘t know. possible it could be. even you, the expert, doesn't know. that's correct. how could the rest of us be expected to know and why is it so congregated? i think labelling doesn't help. personally i would like to see mandatory labelling. this, for example, has nothing on it that identifies whether it can be re cycled that identifies whether it can be re cycle d or that identifies whether it can be recycled or not. confusingly, it has

a green dot scheme, which doesn't apply in the uk. people think that means it can be recycled.” apply in the uk. people think that means it can be recycled. i always thought it meant it has been made from recycled material. does it not mean that? no, that's a common misconception. it doesn't apply in the uk. that's weird, why is it there? because they don'tjust make it for the there? because they don'tjust make it forthe uk, there? because they don'tjust make it for the uk, they mated for the european market. it means that the producers of the packaging have paid into a scheme to recover that material, but not here in the uk. it's material, but not here in the uk. it‘s applicable in other countries in europe. i was interested in the report earlier, you were saying that the thing to do with something like this, squash it down and screw the lid back on and the whole thing can be recycled. i get rid of them separately because i thought they couldn‘t be recycled. and then obviously you can‘t scratch that down. in the majority of local authority areas, that‘s absolutely what we would like people to do. it's what we would like people to do. it‘s important to make sure the

bottle is empty. otherwise when it goes through the recycling process it could end up in a different stream. you could give it a really quick rinse, but we would never ask people to spend lots of time and energy and water washing plastics, because they do go through an industrial process. but yes, absolutely, getting the air out of it to make sure we transport these materials efficiently and get the lid back on, that makes sure the lid is recycled as well as the bottle. if the lid goes in separately, when it goes through the recycling process , it goes through the recycling process, one of the first things that happens is that it goes through a piece of machinery with holes in it that is designed to remove small items with contamination. so the lid would be lost. that's the issue with straws, why they can‘t be recycled, they are just too little. that‘s the big thing with plastic straws. that‘s right, with straws, it‘s a challenge to get them through that process when they are mixed with

other materials. it‘s also a challenge to get them into the process to begin with. with items like straws i guess we have to start questioning, actually do we even need them? but i hate paper straws! it's need them? but i hate paper straws! it‘s almost better to do without. there are some people with disabilities and health issues who really need plastic straws so we need to balance it out.” really need plastic straws so we need to balance it out. i am sure i have seen the ones that do actually decompose in the way you‘re talking about. but you need to know what happens to your waist. for example, if you have something that says it is compostable, you need to check it is compostable, you need to check it is going to the composting. otherwise the safest thing is to put it in your residual bin. we have had lots of comments. one e—mail, i had terrible trouble trying to get information on what is acceptable for recycling. i have moved three different places in 20 years and all have different acceptable items. i am now in edinburgh and nobody seems to know what items they can put in

the recycling bin. an anonymous text, in weston—super—mare we have ha rd text, in weston—super—mare we have hard plastic elected. i worry about the amount of packaging like crisp packets that is sent to landfill. another text, is it not better for householders to shred and cut up plastic bags and coated plastic bags for easier degradation in landfill? not really. i wouldn't worry about that kind of thing. one of the troubles when you have people writing in and saying, i don't know and nobody will help me, is with austerity, a lot of local authorities had dedicated people whose job was to help people understand the systems. and unfortunately in cuts they are one of the first people to go. we're almost out of time. if you‘re not clear, is it better to put everything in the recycling and trust somebody at the other end will filter it out? you said you sometimes opt the other way.” filter it out? you said you sometimes opt the other way. i think not, what is really important is material quality. the waste management companies and local

authorities do a fantasticjob and are able to recycle a lot of plastics. but if you are not sure, it‘s better to leave it out. if is in doubt, leave it out. if you want to find out more you can go to the bbc website with a detailed set of information on what you can and can‘t recycle. have a lovely weekend. goodbye. some of us woke up to some disruption courtesy of storm bronagh this morning. it is clearing, but we saw some heavy rainfall and gusty winds. some rain this morning has been clearing north and east with a scattering of showers largely in the west. as we go through the rest of the day, some showers, possibly heavy and thundery, gradually working easter on the blustery wind. a0 or 50 working easter on the blustery wind. a0 or50 mph working easter on the blustery wind. a0 or 50 mph across england and wales with temperatures cooler than they have been in the south. in the

low teens in the north, perhaps 17 or 18 low teens in the north, perhaps 17 or18 in the low teens in the north, perhaps 17 or 18 in the south—east. this evening and overnight, becoming dry, exceptin evening and overnight, becoming dry, except in the north—west where we see some showers. cloud increasing in the south—west and a chilly night with temperatures in the single figures. a bright start for many tomorrow but cloud and outbreaks of rain will spread in from the south—west, largely dry for northern ireland and northern england, the best of the brightness in scotland. one or two showers here with temperatures not up to much. further windy weather on sunday with the potential for some disruption. this is bbc news. i‘m annita mcveigh. these are the top stories developing at 11. the government stands by theresa may‘s chequers

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