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see the podium and ready to go but let'sjoin our see the podium and ready to go but let's join our correspondent who is live for us in westminster. it's been a rather tough and tumultuous time for her. it has been really turbulent. this is a very unusual occurrence. we don't often see the prime minister do a live broadcast from downing street. i don't think the content of what she has disabled the content of what she has disabled the incredibly dramatic, not quite matching the moment in some ways i fear she is going to recommit to the check ‘s proposal that got such a hammering from eu leaders less today. number ten had a today, they could have gone to ground, let the heat go out of this row, wait for the political focus to switch to the labour party conference that begins over the weekend or the prime minister could come out swinging which is what she seems to be doing this afternoon we do expect her to
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address why there is this problem with chequers but ultimately does she does feel there is the right course for her to be do marking on. the issue years. yesterday, i was in salzburg photo with european leaders. while both sides want a deal, we have to face up sides want a deal, we have to face up to the fact that despite the progress we have made, there are two big issue where we remain a long way apart. the first is our economic relationship after we have left. here, and the eu is still only us two options. the first option would involve the uk staying in the european economic area and a customs union with the eu. in plain english,
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this would mean we would still have to abide by all the eu rules. uncontrolled immigration from the eu would continue. we could not do trade deals. that we want, with other countries. that would make a mockery of the referendum we had two years ago. the second option would bea years ago. the second option would be a basic free trade agreement for great britain that would introduce checks at the great writ in border. even worse, northern ireland would effectively remain in a customs union and parts of the single market. permanently separated, economic lee from the rest of the uk bya economic lee from the rest of the uk by a border down the irish is e. parliament has already unanimously rejected this idea. —— a border down the irish sea. creating any form of
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customs border between northern ireland and the rest of the uk would not respect that northern ireland is an integral part of the united kingdom. in line with the principle of consent as set out clearly in the belfast good friday agreement. it is something i will never agree to, indeed, in my judgment something i will never agree to, indeed, in myjudgment it is something no british prime minister would ever agree to. if the eu believe i will, they are making a fundamental mistake. anything which fails to respect the referendum on which effectively divides our country in two would be a bad deal. i have always said no deal is better thana i have always said no deal is better than a bad deal. but i have also been clear that the best outcome is for the uk to leave with a deal. that is why following months of intensive work and detailed
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discussions, we proposed a third option for our future economic relationship based on the frictionless trade in goods. that is the best way to protect jobs frictionless trade in goods. that is the best way to protectjobs here and in the eu and to avoid a hard border between ireland and northern ireland while respecting the referendum result and the integrity of the united kingdom. yesterday, donald tusk said our proposals would undermine the single market. he did not explain how in any detail or make any counterproposal. we are at an impasse. the second issue is connected to the first. we both agree that the withdrawal agreement needs to include a backstop to ensure that if there is a delay in implementing our new relationship, there still won't be a hard border between ireland and northern ireland. but the eu is proposing to achieve this by effectively keeping northern ireland in the customs
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union. as i have already said, that is unacceptable. we will never agree to it. it would mean breaking up our country. we will set out our alternative that preserves the integrity of the uk and it will be in line with the commitments we made backin in line with the commitments we made back in december, including the commitment that no new regulatory barriers should be created between northern ireland and the rest of the uk, unless the northern ireland executive and assembly agree. as i told eu leaders, neither side should demand the unacceptable of the other. we cannot accept anything that threatens the integrity of our unionjust as that threatens the integrity of our union just as they cannot accept anything that threatens the integrity of theirs. we cannot acce pt integrity of theirs. we cannot accept anything that does not respect the result of the referendum, just as they cannot acce pt referendum, just as they cannot accept anything that is not in the
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interests of their citizens. throughout this process, i have treated the eu with nothing but respect. the uk expects the same. a good relationship at the end of this process depends on it. at this late stage in the negotiations it is not a cce pta ble stage in the negotiations it is not acceptable to simply reject the other sides proposals without a detailed explanation and counterproposals. we now need to hear from the eu what the real issues are and what they alternative is, so we can discuss them. until we do, we cannot make progress. in the meantime, we must and will continue the work of preparing ourselves for no deal. in particular, i want to clarify our approach to two issues. first, there are over 3 million eu
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citizens living in the uk who will be understandably worried about what the outcome of yesterday's summit means for their future. i want to be clear with you that even in the event of no deal, your rights will be protected. you are our friends, our neighbours, our colleagues. we wa nt our neighbours, our colleagues. we want you to stay. second, i want to reassure the people of northern ireland that in the event of no deal, we will do everything in our power to prevent a return to a hard border. let me also say this. the referendum was the largest democratic exercise this country has ever undergone. to deny its legitimacy or frustrate its ross —— frustrate its results threatens our trust and democracy. that is why for over two years i have worked day and
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night to deliver a deal that sees the uk leave the eu. i have worked to bring people with me, even when thatis to bring people with me, even when that is not always seemed possible. no one wants a good deal more than me, but the eu should be clear, i will not overturn the result of the referendum nor will i break up my country. we need serious engagement on resolving the two big problems in the negotiations. and we stand ready. a fairly short and one might even say tell speech from theresa may there, giving her response to those one might say failed talks in salzburg. let's return to our correspondent ben wright. the word she used was impasse but the tone was rather over my dead body, i might say? it was an extraordinary statement in some ways, given how
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close we are hard to the date in the diary, everyone agrees needs to be met for there to be a deal which is really october, november latest. here we have the prime minister saying these negotiations are in real trouble because we are at an impasse when it comes to working out future eu uk economic relationship, that political agreement. on the northern ireland backstop issue, she accepts that they are still a very long way apart and that compromise needs to be needed. she has said the uk will put forward new plans soon but one of the most telling thing is, and she did have a very terse tone, was when she said she had a lwa ys tone, was when she said she had always treated the eu with respect and expects the same in return. i think she feels very bruised about what happened in salzburg. i think she feels she was unfairly ostracised by other eu leaders, that she was meant to look foolish and her response is this statement today. it was interesting as well
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that she really spelled—out the fact that she really spelled—out the fact that she really spelled—out the fact that she wants a detailed explanation from the eu about why they are not going for what she is saying and counterproposal will stop she says the ball is in their court now. she is. i think she says the ball is in their court now. she is. ithink the she says the ball is in their court now. she is. i think the eu will be looking at that statement, bats with some incredulity. i think they would argue they have always set out to the uk that with that future economic relationship there are really only two options, either a deep, head a free trade agreement along a canada style model or you could have a relationship with the european union, single market in the same way norway does do the eea. in that statement again, theresa may set out again why she feels both those options are not acceptable to the uk. the norway model she said would not obey the result of the referendum because it would probably require the continuation of free movement, it would make a mockery of the referendum and it simple free trade deal would cause too much economic friction between the uk and
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the eu. crucially, would bring about some sort of border on the island of ireland. neither of those things she thinks are acceptable. she is asking the eu to help, with a proposal, she says i have put chequers on the table, you have to engage on the details of how how that might work. significantly, she clearly is making the argument again that she is prepared to walk away. no deal is something which needs to be countenanced which is a viable course for the uk to take if they don't think the deal is good enough. she said once again no deal is better than a bad deal. interesting clarity also an eu citizens' rights. uk ministers including the prime minister have suggested in recent weeks that if there was to be no deal, that eu citizens who are already in the uk would not be chucked out a day after brexit. she said their current rights will be protected. an unequivocal commitment
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that whatever happens, even a com plete that whatever happens, even a complete breakdown, no deal, a cliff edge, eu citizens here will be ok. i think she is trying to take the moral high ground on. thank you. let's speak now to the former cabinet minister, justine greening, who is a remain supporter. the conservative mp mark garnier was theresa may's trade minister untiljanuary this year. hejoins us now from kidderminster. i think ithinki i think i can describe you, mark garnier, as in remainer he now accepts brexit and hearing from theresa may who was a woman in much the same position, my goodness me some tough words from her now. what do you make of what she said?|j thought do you make of what she said?” thought her british bulldog approach to this is something that will stir the heart of quite a lot of people on both sides. we still don't have a solution. one of the interesting things over the next few days that will emerge is how the european union responds. at the end of the day, don't forget it is us initiating the sole problem, we are
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the ones who want to leave the eu and we're also the ones asking for them to change their rules or alter their rules to accommodate accommodate us. we must wait and see what they say. what would you expect to hear from them? what they say. what would you expect to hearfrom them? it what they say. what would you expect to hear from them? it seems to what they say. what would you expect to hearfrom them? it seems to me the tone has soured somewhat and this weekend has been quite a wake—up call for both sides. this weekend has been quite a wake-up call for both sides. the eu of course may turn around and stick by their plants. essentially they are saying we do an fta, free trade agreement which could result in a ha rd always agreement which could result in a hard always stay within the european economic area which effectively feels like being in the eu without the influence. the thing about chequers is what it's trying to do is find a happy medium in the middle of all that. but it's only really doing is upsetting everybody, at the remain and, just dean will tell you how she thinks it's a bad idea, as welljacob rees—mogg telly at the ha rd welljacob rees—mogg telly at the hard brexiteer end. i'm in the middle so i can live with chequers but i see both ends of the argument will find this pretty unhappy. it's
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entirely possible the eu may come back and say you've only got one or other choice. either a fta or eea. you can't have a hybrid in the middle and if you want to go for a full fta brexit, you must go even further. let me bring in justine greening. you have been quite critical of theresa may in recent weeks in her approach, what did you make of this steely performance that shejust make of this steely performance that she just gave? i make of this steely performance that shejust gave? i think it make of this steely performance that she just gave? i think it was clear to me back injuly that chequers she just gave? i think it was clear to me back in july that chequers was an unworkable deal, it does not supported by the british public, it's not supported by mps in parliament and of course in her party, and i think it's something that's already dead. i think we have wasted time over the last two months effectively flogging a that strategy will not succeed. i think the prime minister now needs to listen to what people are saying to her here in the
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uk, and then come up with a viable route forward that actually has a chance of success. the clock is ticking on brexit, we have to find a route forward. i have set out what my route forward is, i think we can only find a resolution to this and i think people feel like we're going round in circles and we need to put those choices back to them. i would describe myself as a pragmatist on europe and brexit, i did not come into politics to spend all this time on this particular issue. the things that fire me up around social mobility, opportunity, housing, social care, we have to find a route through this in order to be able to get onto the real challenges that our country faces. the prime minister now needs to start listening to people around her and in her party that chequers is not the route that people support going forward. mark garnier, i can see you nodding. you were saying on the other hand you could live with chequers but what we have heard from
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theresa may on the economic setup that she will not accept either a situation which sees the uk in an e a customs union or a free trade agreement which would be so problematic for northern ireland. what is compromise? chequers of course is a compromise position but i don't think we will find an agreement within the next six months. there are proposals coming forward from people like just dean reynolds nick balls which are probably quite good ideas which is maybe in the next two—year period allocated for transition arrangements, we should move into the european economic area which will bias a lot more time to be able to think long and hard about the type of brexit we want and whether we can find a compromise. we have spent two years just trying to get the cabinet to agree on a position, that two dozen people who agreed on chequers for three days only. that gives an idea of how ferociously complex this is. i would not want to
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be in the prime minister's position right now but there are people who are going to have to give something andi are going to have to give something and i don't think it's going to be donein and i don't think it's going to be done in six months which is why the eea option for an interim period is probably the last one. justine greening, do you see us sort of barge webby we buy more time?” certainly hope not. -- moving towards some sort of fudge where we buy more time? what people want to see if a resolution on the path past brexit. in the end we have reached an impasse clearly with the eu and most importantly perhaps as well in parliament. that is why we now will have to go back to the british public and ask them, which of these different routes that the prime minister herself effectively set out? i think people seem to feel that chequers and all those routes that chequers and all those routes that leave us half in, half out, having rules without any say really the worst of all worlds. it seems to
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me that part of the problem with chequers and i would argue with even the eea strategy is it feels like a fudge fudge to people. therefore i do think we need to go back to people and ask them what the route forward is that they want. whichever we pick, there will be some advantages but also some disadvantages and i think it's important that actually we go down this next important step in to our future with our eyes wide open. on that point, let me stay with you for a moment, because this idea of a further referendum going back to the people you are advocating there, again, theresa may shows no signs she's willing to do that. the are changing changing her mind?” she's willing to do that. the are changing changing her mind? i don't know. for any government on an issue so important as brexit, is strategy of guessing what the british public wa nt of guessing what the british public want and then hoping it will work out ok, from my perspective, is simply need fair nor sensible. that's why i think it would be wise
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for her to start listening to mps in her own party and indeed people in the country. the latest opinion poll showed just 14% of people supporting chequers. that is not carrying out the will of the british people and people like david davis who campaigned for brexit and said this chequers deal is simply not the brexit he campaigned for should be listened to. on that issue mark garnier, if you word, the idea that they go back to the public and will get to have another go?” they go back to the public and will get to have another go? i half agree andi get to have another go? i half agree and i half don't. ithink get to have another go? i half agree and i half don't. i think if we were to go back and have a referendum which said, one of the questions was, do you want to remain, i think people would be rightly outraged. 62% of people here in my constituency voted to leave even though i was a very strong remain campaign. ican though i was a very strong remain campaign. i can genuinely cvrd meant that we may have to go back and say there are two options to brexit, one
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isa there are two options to brexit, one is a hard brexit where we will have ha rd is a hard brexit where we will have hard borders and it be potentially difficult for the economy, or we go for a much softer brexit which will be similarto for a much softer brexit which will be similar to the european economic area and ask people that. to reiterate, i don't think asking people again if they want to remain in the uk would be acceptable. the second issue that theresa may spent some time addressing in her speech just a short while ago was of course the very thorny issue of northern ireland. how close do think we are to getting any resolution on matt and where is the compromise to be made? on that, i absolutely share her concerns. anything that puts at risk the union is something that we should absolutely be implacably against. my concern with the chequers deal is it hard wire that isa chequers deal is it hard wire that is a problem for the foreseeable future because any time you want to update the common rule but yet again, we would be having to have very difficult discussions about how we could maintain a fiction border
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with northern ireland. —— frictionless border. these issues are perhaps impossible to resolve andi are perhaps impossible to resolve and i think that's what coming out of this which is why in the end we will have some choices to make around what's most important to us. i think those choices are ones that can really only be made by the british people. i think in the end, whatever parliament does, it seems to be reaching some kind of an impasse itself, a stalemate, ithink the only route forward on brexit will be unblocked by going back to the people. iwould will be unblocked by going back to the people. i would like to reiterate that we must get through this to be able to get on to tackling the big issues that britain faces in the 21st. whilst ever we remain myopically focused on brexit, perhaps understandably that will prevent us from moving onto tackling the things that people want to see improved in their day—to—day lives whether it's education, housing, opportunity, jobs, these are the things that for all of us really matter week by week and yet we are not discussing those at the moment
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because of this whole issue on brexit. we have to stop going round in circles, find a route forward, ta ke in circles, find a route forward, take a decision and then get on with that. i will return to that point but first, mark garnier, northern ireland and the huge amount of controversy that whole issue throws up, where is the compromise? i'm not sure. i think theresa may's point and everybody‘s point that northern ireland is absolutely part of the union, any idea we would have a border between great britain and northern ireland would be completely outrageous even if it's only a customs border. it's also really important that we maintain the spirit of the good friday agreement and have that soft border with the southern ireland. i can see this is really tricky to try to sort out not least because the wto says that a customs union or a customs country has to maintainers customs borders. that is where the whole thing becomes intractable. it's very difficult to resolve. we must find a
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resolution because if nothing nothing else, we are a unionist party and holding the country together has to be one of the most important things we can do. let's move away from the details and pick up move away from the details and pick up that point you made, about how brexit is so consuming the political agenda for so long now, in terms of your party, how damaging do you think the whole fact of having to wrestle with so many conflicting ideas and opinions on her party, how damaging on the whole issue of brexit has that been due theresa may's leadership? part of the problem has been a cross parliament. the way westminster works is on party political lines and of course brexit cuts across all that. it's beena brexit cuts across all that. it's been a little of it like trying to put diesel into an unleaded car. i think it is surprising perhaps that the conservative party is the party in government and has maybe struggled the course with being in that position. it's also why we must respect the very genuine and
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passionately held different views that colleagues across the conservative party have. i certainly do. i have my own views and i think we should listen to everyone else. i think it underlines the reason that in the end, we need to find a route through, we need to draw a resolution to brexit, draw a line under it and then get onto i think the day to day issues that people really wa nt the day to day issues that people really want to see their government focused on. do you think theresa may will end up being the leader who got us will end up being the leader who got us through brexit in whatever way and then was dropped like a hot potato? i think she runs the risk but i don't think it's a theresa may problem, it's a brexit problem for any prime minister. the problem with brexit is there such a wide spectrum of opinion that no matter what solution the prime minister comes up with, the majority people will be unhappy. that's just a fact of life. it is like washing in nerve agent every morning, every time you get up talking about this stuff you attract more and more discontent. i think
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when it comes to that process of brexit, we need somebody beyond that you can be fresh with a vision for the future, just dealers right, there's a whole host of things we must be dealing with. —— justine greening is right. it's notjust about trade and global britain and being independent, it's about how we look after the nhs and how we tackle the right end of problems in the nhs. any number of different things. we must have somebody who will not be detoxified by brexit to take this forward. that's why it's not a theresa may problem, it's whoever is prime minister at this time problem. fascinating stuff, great to have a nice amount of time to talk to both of you. justine greening and mark garnier, thank you for your time. now it's time for a look at the weather with louise lear. today has been a little bit more straightforward, breezy spells and scattered showers for most. the wind
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direction has changed from the north—west and a cooler fuel for all, 11 to 18 and the best. through the night to night, a ridge of high pressure building, quietening things down, a chilly night to come before we see more wet weather pushing into the south—west. a cool start but a sunny one. cloud gathers as this spring arrives from the south—west, some of it quite persistent across the south coast, south—west england and into south wales. that will make it feel cool across southern areas, 13 to 15 degrees. a little more then tra nsfer 13 to 15 degrees. a little more then transfer north, 11 to 13. more wet and windy weather to come on sunday for england and wales, the best dry, bright weather up into the far north west. as the rain clears, the wind will become more of a feature, gail is likely as well. keep watching the forecast for further details on sundays sundays weather. this is bbc news. our latest headlines: in the last half an hour prime minister theresa may has urged the european union to come up
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with an alternative to her brexit proposals and warned she would never accept a break—up of the united kingdom. mrs may made a statement at downing street on the state of brexit negotiations following a summit of eu leaders in salzburg. throughout this process i have treated the eu with nothing but respect. the uk expects the same. a good relationship at the end of this process depends on it. two major pharmaceutical companies lose a legal bid to prevent the nhs prescribing a cancer drug to treat a debilitating eye condition. the drug, avastin, could save the nhs £500 million a year. the metropolitan police have admitted for the first time that bosses knew about a sexual relationship that an undercover officer was having with an environmental activist. legal documents seen by the bbc show they knew about mark kennedy's relationship with kate wilson and allowed it to continue. theresa may has warned
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the european union that it should come up with an alternative to her brexit proposals — warning she will never acccept a break—up the united kingdom. in a strongly worded statement in the last half hour the prime minister said the negotiations were at an impasse. in an unusual and uncompromising live, televised address from downing street, theresa may has directly challenged eu leaders over their proposals for britain's relationship with the brussels once the uk leaves the eu. the prime minister said the uk could not make further progress until the eu offered whast she she described as "serious engagment" of alternative proposals on the proposed economic relationship and the issue of the irish border. yesterday i was in salzburg for talks with european leaders. i a lwa ys talks with european leaders. i always said these negotiations would be tough and they are going to be
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toughest in the final straight. we have to face up to the fact that despite the progress we have made, there are two big issues where we remaina there are two big issues where we remain a long way apart. the first is our economic relationship after we have left. here, the eu is still only offering us two options. the first option would involve the uk staying in the european economic area and a customs union with the eu. in plain english, this would mean we would still have to abide by all the eu rules. uncontrolled immigration from the eu would continue and we couldn't do trade deals we want with other countries. that would make a mockery of the referendum we had to years ago. the second option would be a basic free
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trade agreement for great britain and that would introduce checks at the great britain, eu border. but even worse, northern ireland would effectively remain in the customs union and parts of the single market, permanently separated economic league from the rest of the uk bya economic league from the rest of the uk by a border down the irish sea. parliament has already unanimously rejected this idea. creating any form of customs border between northern ireland and the rest of the uk would not respect that northern ireland is an integral part of the united kingdom, in line with the principle of consent, as set out in the good friday agreement. it is something i will never agree to. indeed, in my judgment, something i will never agree to. indeed, in myjudgment, it is something no british prime minister would ever agree to. if the eu
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believe i will, they are making a fundamental mistake. anything which fails to respect the referendum or which effectively divide our country in two would be a bad deal. i have a lwa ys in two would be a bad deal. i have always said no deal is better than a bad deal. but i have also been clear that the best outcome is for the uk to leave with a deal. that is why, following months of intensive work and detailed discussions, we proposed a third option for our future economic relationship based on the frictionless trade in goods. that is the best way to protectjobs here and in the eu and to avoid a ha rd here and in the eu and to avoid a hard border between ireland and northern ireland, while respecting the referendum result and the integrity of the united kingdom. yesterday, donald tusk said our
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proposals would undermine the single market. he didn't explain how in any detail or make any counterproposal, so we are at an impasse. the second issueis so we are at an impasse. the second issue is connected to the first. we both agreed that the withdrawal agreement needs to include a backstop agreement needs to include a ba cksto p to agreement needs to include a backstop to ensure that if there is a delay in implementing our new relationship, they still won't be a ha rd relationship, they still won't be a hard border between ireland and northern ireland. but the eu is proposing to achieve this by effectively keeping northern ireland in the customs union. as i have already said, that is unacceptable. we will never agree to it. it would mean breaking up our country. we will set out our alternative that preserves the integrity of the uk and it will be in line with the commitments we made back in december, including the commitment that no new regulatory barriers should be created between northern
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ireland and the rest of the uk u nless ireland and the rest of the uk unless the northern ireland executive and assembly agree. as i told eu leaders, neither side should demand the unacceptable of the other. we cannot accept anything that threatens the integrity of our union, just as they cannot accept anything that threatens the integrity of theirs. we cannot accept anything that does not respect the result of the referendum, just as they cannot accept anything that is not in the interests of their citizens. throughout this process, i have treated the eu with nothing but respect. the uk expects the same. a good relationship at the end of this process depends on it. at this late stage in the negotiations, it is not a cce pta ble stage in the negotiations, it is not acceptable to simply reject the other side's proposals without a
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detailed explanation and counterproposals. so we now need to hear from the counterproposals. so we now need to hearfrom the eu counterproposals. so we now need to hear from the eu what the real issues are and what their alternative is so that we can discuss them. until we do, we cannot make progress. in the meantime, we must and will continue the work of preparing ourselves for no deal. in particular, i want to clarify our approach to two issues. first, there are over 300 million eu citizens living in the uk who will be understandably worried about what the outcome of yesterday's summit means for the future. i want to be clear with you that even in the event of no deal, your rights will be protected. you are our friends, our neighbours, our colleagues. we wa nt our neighbours, our colleagues. we want you just pay. second, —— we
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wa nt want you just pay. second, —— we want you just pay. second, —— we want you to stay. secondly, we want to reassure the people of northern ireland, we will do everything in our power to prevent the return of a ha rd our power to prevent the return of a hard border. let me also say this, the referendum was the largest democratic exercise this country has ever undergone. to deny its legitimacy or frustrate its result threatens public trust in our democracy. that is why for over two yea rs i have democracy. that is why for over two years i have worked day and night to deliver a deal that sees the uk leave the eu. i have worked to bring people with me, even when that has not always seemed possible. no one wa nts a not always seemed possible. no one wants a good deal more than me. but the eu should be clear, i will not overturn the result of the referendum, nor will i break my country. we need serious engagement on resolving the two big problems in
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the negotiations. and we stand ready. as you can see, a fairly steely performance from the prime minister, talking about the sticking points in the negotiations. one of the key ones, the northern irish question, and we have just been getting a response from nigel dodds, deputy leader of the dup. like salzburg demonstrated, the editor in flexibility and the bullying tactics of the eu when they clubbed together to reject out of hand, without giving any reason is, proposals being put forward by the british side and it demonstrates what we have believed for a long time, the u is not negotiating in good faith and when it comes to northern ireland they are not even negotiating within the parameters of the belfast agreement or any
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subsequent agreements, and it seems to be their way or no way. the prime minister has stated in downing street is very firmly once again, no customs border down the irish sea. is there in your view any scope for any kind of regulatory checks between northern ireland and the rest of the uk? i think it is time now the prime minister demonstrates publicly, privately and to everyone in her own party and to europe, to parliament... she is not going to be bullied, she is not going to be coerced into either doing a bad deal for the uk or breaking up the united kingdom, soi or breaking up the united kingdom, so i welcome what she has said today in those terms. as far as we are concerned, we are absolutely determined to ensure they will be no break—up of the uk, no border down the irish sea, either customs or
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regulatory. the prime minister said today they would be no regulatory barriers between northern ireland and the rest of the uk. i have heard and the rest of the uk. i have heard a lot speculation on this. if you go back to the joint account in december, it explicitly confirmed they will be no new regulatory barriers. the view of the executive and the assembly in northern ireland, we will never be supporting anything that divides northern ireland from the rest of the uk. we heard from leo varadkar saying there were some discussions as to what type of checks could take place. he used the example of agricultural products being checked between northern ireland and the rest of the uk, but as far as you are concerned, rest of the uk, but as far as you are concerned , no rest of the uk, but as far as you are concerned, no new checks at all. the checks that exists currently are only in small, specific areas, such as animal health. you only need checks between
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northern ireland and the rest of the uk if you are having different regimes operating and different rules being imposed on northern ireland compared to the rest of the uk. that is unacceptable, the prime minister has made that clear today. i welcome that and we remain very focused on that important priority for northern ireland. so how does the border issue, in particular this issue of the backstop, how can it be resolved? the issue of northern ireland, the critical process, peace, has been massively abused and manipulated by remain as and the irish government and brussels to try to force the uk into a particular view of brexit and how it operates. equally, the border issue has been elevated to a far greater extent than it should. we
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already have a vat border, we already have a vat border, we already have a physical border, we have a political border, we have a counterterrorist border, they already exist and they are managed perfectly well, and so can it be after we leave the european union. so hearing there from nigel dodds, deputy leader of the dup. let's have a look at our headlines now. theresa may has vowed she will "not break up her country" or "disrespect the referendum result" after the eu summit in salzburg. the health service could save hundreds of millions of pounds every year after two drug firms failed in their legal efforts to block the use a cheaper treatment for an eye condition. for the first time police admit they did know an undercover officer was having a sexual relationship with an environmental activist, and bosses were aware. here's your business headlines on afternoon live
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government borrowing rose by more than expected last month following lower tax receipts and an increase in spending. borrowing jumped to £6.75bn last month from £4.35bn a year earlier. however, borrowing for the year to date is just over 30 per cent lower than last year at £17.8bn. discount supermarket chain lidl has announced that it will stop using black plastic packaging across its range of vegetables and fruit. the supermarket says it could save an estimated 50 tonnes of black plastic waste a year. other supermarkets including waitrose have also pledge to stop using such containers new research published today by eef, the manufacturers' organisation, shows that one in six manufacturers say business would become untenable if there is a no—deal brexit. we normally do the markets at the
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end but we have been watching theresa may give a very firm, very steely speech, and obviously looking like brexit negotiations are a little bit wobbly, shall we say, and the markets don't like that. they don't like uncertainty and there is an awful lot of uncertainty around. we don't know what's happening, with the direction will be. investors have reacted, currency traders selling of sterling. currency has fallen against all its major peers. against the dollar, you can see on the board, and specifically against the board, and specifically against the euro. the ftse 100, the board, and specifically against the euro. the ftse100, that has risen. and also, the ftse shrugging of those ongoing trade concerns between the us and china. but certainly it seems, as far as brexit negotiations are concerned, although sterling had risen earlier in the week over more optimism for a better reception to the chequers deal at
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the summit, that has reversed, and there is real concern about what will happen. theresa may has now pushed the ball back into the european court, asking for more detail on those plans. we will keep an eye on what effect that has on the market. people always eight theresa may is robotic, she was a robotic in that, just jolly cross. we are talking about those home robots. there are great plans to make them do a lot more, effectively ta ke make them do a lot more, effectively take over the house. a lot of people use things like alexa, to maybe turn on music, or increase the volume, or maybe listen to some jokes. but the tech giants say they have a vision for these devices to do a lot more and effectively control the lights, the locks, even cooking, and so yesterday, alexa hunches was
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launched, and is on's new product, and it will use artificial intelligence to replicate human curiosity. for example, you turn of the tv when you are going to bed, if you don't do that, it will say, you haven't turned off the tv, i can do it for you, and can do that. but to do that, you have to make sure all these devices are smart, so they are connected to the internet. so and on have launched a range of smart devices, starting off with a budget microwave. it will pick up any of your commands. and also other companies are also going this way. dave lee was at the launch yesterday and he asked what they are doing. it is really for one big reason, which is a large number of devices not only in your kitchen but
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throughout your house aren't yet connected to this great thing on the internet. why would i want you, with a microwave? i asked myself that when we first thought about the product but now having used it for a couple of months, you would be surprised at how complicated they are. you end upjust using your microwave for simple use cases because the hard ones are hard. and what about the future of this deal between tesla and a chinese company? there is fierce competition right across the car industry and other industries to try and secure supplies needed for batteries as more and more countries —— companies try to develop electric vehicles. this deal between tesla and ganfeng lithium is for tesla to buy ganfeng lithium is for tesla to buy ganfeng lithium and to make sure there is a continuity of supply. this comes as a backdrop to this ongoing trade war between the us and china. you can
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tell is a little bit more about it, because it is quite a surprise move, given the tit—for—tat over trade this week. absolutely, but when it comes to this specific product, lithium, it isa this specific product, lithium, it is a key ingredient in order for these electric batteries to be made, so it is in very good news for tesla to have secured that contract, one that can be extended for the next couple of years. with regard to the overall lithium market, china is the dominant player, supplying about 80% of that, so there really is no sense that these parts —— tariffs are going to be impacting that market altogether, that people are going to be moving away from china, or even try and develop it here in the us. there is absolutely no sense that is going to happen nor a sense that the
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tariffs on this will have an impact on the overall market. very important for tesla are given all the supply problems, and the production line it as it has had. lots of customers are still waiting for their cars, aren't they? absolutely, and this is finally some good news for tesla, who is a company that has been making a lot of news lately because of a lot of things that don't really have much to do with their cars. in fact, another top executive is leaving the company after just three another top executive is leaving the company afterjust three years of being with it. ukip's leader gerard batten, has told his party's autumn conference, that britain should be dictating to the eu how it would leave the european union, rather than asking for a deal. (00v) he was speaking at the opening of ukip's conference in birmingham, which coincides with the party's 25th anniversary.
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it was his first speech as leader. he also told delegates that the party would target the constituencies of remain—supporting mps, at the next general election. we can now speak to the ukip leader, gerard batten. let's start with brexit, because we have just heard, i am not sure whether you were able to listen to the prime minister's response, but given that you were saying britain should be dictating a little more, it was quite a feisty performance.” wasn't able to hear it all, i'm afraid, because i have been quite busy year, but i think i got the gist of it because it was a load of waffle from theresa may, it doesn't move anything forward, and the point i was making at the conference was what i have been seen for 25 years, the only way we are ever going to leave the eu is if we do it on our own terms. we should repeal the 1972 european communities act as a first step and then we should explain to
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the european union how it is going to work. if we keep on asking them how we are going to leave, we're not going to get an answer because they don't want us to leave and they have no incentive to make it easy for us. you spoke at length for your vision for a full and complete brexit, as you might call it, but you were also launching your manifesto and putting to the four other policies aside from what people naturally associate ukip with. how do you see the party going forward? what i said to the conference is, i want our policy is to be popular with the voters. i wa nt to be popular with the voters. i want us to represent ordinary people... i feel they are want us to represent ordinary people... ifeel they are not represented by the big interests of the conservatives or the marxist ideas of the labour party. those are
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the people we should be reporting. —— supporting. the people we should be reporting. -- supporting. apologies, we are having some trouble hearing you because of the wind against your microphone but let me try another question. you talked about making yourselves a populist party, you also said you want to be a radical party. there are many interpretations of that word but they have been criticisms that radical means extreme and people have talked about a lurch to the right within ukip, particularly towards anti—islamic stance and so on. how do you respond to those accusations? i don't take them seriously. anyone now who to the left ofjeremy corbyn is considered to be right wing. if you look at what i have built my political career on, it is trying to return this country to the status of an independent, democratic, sovereign nation that elects politicians that form a government that we can then sacked at election time and will run the country in accordance with our traditional laws and constitution.
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if that makes you right wing or extreme, people have a very strange idea of what those terms mean. thank you very much indeed. apologies for the sound quality on that but i hope people got a sense of what was being said that. let's return to the whole issue of brexit, specifically theresa may's response after the salzburg talks. i am joined by the shadow brexit secretary, keir starmer. thank you for being with us. starmer. thank you for being with us. we heard the prime minister talk ofan us. we heard the prime minister talk of an impasse and the fact that the ball is now in the court of the eu negotiators. well, the prime minister's negotiating strategy is collapsing around her. that is why we are in this impasse. and now the country is staring down the barrel of no deal and i think the levels of anxiety are going up around the country day after day and the prime minister, i think, country day after day and the prime minister, ithink, is country day after day and the prime minister, i think, is appearing to be in denial. i don't understand why she has failed to hear the message
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that the chequers proposal wasn't going to be accepted by the eu and it's not going to be accepted by her own party. that has been rolling news for weeks on end, so i'm not sure why this has come as a surprise to her. and simply repeating the mantra that nothing has changed, the chequers is the deal she is proposing, is not very convincing. what she has said is that she feels that what she was saying has been rejected without any detailed explanation and without any counter proposals from the eu. do you think they have been short on detail?” think both sides need to be flexible, i think both sides need to be respectable as we go into these final weeks. there are only four weeks until the october summit and there is a gap between the parties and that has to be bridged, otherwise we are going to be ended with no deal, which would be catastrophic. the question is this, how does the prime minister bridge that gap? her own party is challenging her over the chequers
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plan. how on earth does she negotiate from there because the moment she tries to bridge the gap between way she is and with the eu is, the own party will challenge, so the root of this problem is right here back in the uk with divided conservative party. there are many people who would say that is rather rich coming from what could be described as a divided labour party. reports in the papers in the last few days that you yourself almost resigned over the issue of brexit. we have got to get this in perspective, we have got four weeks to go in the most important negotiations since the second world warand a negotiations since the second world war and a decades long war on europe from the conservative party now risks the negotiation. that is a huge divide in the party. i am not pretending the labour party are united on everything but there is a massive difference between the sorts of things the labour party is concerned with and the imminent challenge of closing the gap with
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the eu. if we end up with no deal, because the tory party is too divided to allow negotiations to succeed, that is a calamity, and so these are different orders of events. thank you very much for your time. we are keeping things short, we have got so much to get in. we wa nt to we have got so much to get in. we want to get you to the weather. today has been a little bit more straightforward. but the wind direction has changed and there is a cooler feel for all. as we direction has changed and there is a coolerfeel for all. as we move through the night, we see this little ridge of high pressure building. a chilly night to come. we will see more wet weather pushing into the south—west. a cool start but a sunny one for many. cloud gathers as this rain arrives from the south—west. that really will make it feel quite cool across southern areas, 13 — 15 degrees.
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more wet and windy weather to come on sunday for england and wales. the best of the drier, brighter weather will be in the far north—west but as the rain clears, the wind will become more of a feature. gales are likely as well. keep watching the forecast for further details on sunday's weather. hello, you're watching afternoon live. i'm rachel schofield. today at 3pm: theresa may demands the eu breaks the impasse in brexit talks — after her plan was rejected by european leaders.
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yesterday donald tusk said our proposals would undermine the single market. he did not explain how in any detail or make any counterproposal. so, we are at an impasse. speaking after an eu summit in salzburg, the prime minister also urged the other european leaders to show her respect. throughout this process, i have treated the eu with nothing but respect. the uk expects the same. a good relationship at the end of this process depends on it. the health service could save hundreds of millions of pounds every year, after two drug firms failed in their legal efforts to block the use a cheaper treatment for an eye condition. the great recycling confusion — bbc research shows families don't know which bin to put their waste plastics into. coming up on afternoon
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this is afternoon live. the prime minister has delivered an ultimatum to the eu — demanding its leaders engage seriously over the two deadlocked issues of trade and the irish border, and that they put forward fresh counterproposals. in a highly unusual television address from downing street theresa may said the two sides had reached an ‘impasse' with the eu making a mockery of the referendum result. striking a defiant tone said she would prefer no deal to anything which failed to respect the referendum or divided the united kingdom. here, the eu is still only offering us two options. the first option
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would involve the uk staying in the european economic area and a customs union with the eu. in plain english, this would mean we would still have to abide by all the eu rules. uncontrolled immigration from the eu would continue and we couldn't do trade deals we want with other countries. that would make a mockery of the referendum we had two years ago. creating any form of customs border between northern ireland and the rest of the uk would not respect that northern ireland is an integral part of the united kingdom, in line with the principle of consent, as set out the good friday agreement. it is something i will never agree to. indeed, in my judgment, it is something no british prime minister would ever agree to. if the eu believe i will,
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they are making a fundamental mistake. anything which fails to respect the referendum or which effectively divides our country in two would be a bad deal. i have always said no deal is better than a bad deal. we both agreed that the withdrawal agreement needs to include a backstop to ensure that if there is a delay in implementing our new relationship, they still won't be a hard border between ireland and northern ireland. but the eu is proposing to achieve this by effectively keeping northern ireland in the customs union. as i have already said, that is unacceptable. we will never agree to it. it would mean breaking up our country. we will set out our alternative, that preserves the integrity of the uk and it will be in line with the commitments we made back in december, including the commitment
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that no new regulatory barriers should be created between northern ireland and the rest of the uk unless the northern ireland executive and assembly agree. as i told eu leaders, neither side should demand the unacceptable of the other. we cannot accept anything that threatens the integrity of our union, just as they cannot accept anything that threatens the integrity of theirs. we cannot accept anything that does not respect the result of the referendum, just as they cannot accept anything that is not in the interests of their citizens. no one wants a good deal more than me. but the eu should be clear, i will not overturn the result of the referendum, nor will i break my country. we need serious engagement on resolving the two big problems in the negotiations.
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and we stand ready. our political correspondent, leila nathoo is at westminster. there was sort of a bubbling anger underneath what the prime minister was saying. what did you make of it? i think this was a deliberately defiant tone, a very stern word therefrom theresa may. if you contrast that to the initial reaction to what the eu leaders say where she appeared visibly frustrated and angered by effectively having been undermined by their assertion that her plans on the table are unworkable. in a sense, what else could theresa may do but come out fighting to try to be gain some momentum? get on the front but in these negotiations and stay again defiantly sticking with her proposals. setting out on a bit
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more detail why she sees her chequers proposals for the future relationship with the eu as the only ones that would be acceptable to the uk. whether or not this tone will change anything materially is another question, because she says she's putting the ball in the eu's court, it's up to you too, with proposals to try to make this this work, she says we have gone far enough to set out our plans on the future relationship, it's up to you. ido future relationship, it's up to you. i do not think the eu will buy that, they will not see it being up to them to lay out there and framework. certainly in terms of the opposition to the chequers proposal also from within her own party, from brexiteer and remainer wings, it's difficult to see how this defiant tone and strong words will have any affect on what they think about the proposals, too. of course, all this set against a clock that is rather rapidly ticking down. absolutely. we heard from donald tusk yesterday saying october was the make or break moment
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for these talks. that is when the deal must be done, merely a few weeks away. you heard the prime minister say again, stressing how ready the uk was to walk away from nests, to say we are preparing for a no deal, repeating the phrase we have heard so often from the prime minister that no deal is better than a bad deal. i think she wanted it to be known from the eu that britain is still prepared to walk away from less. in this last hour, she was saying it's up to them to move a little bit towards the uk. she feels the uk has moved on offered what it can. the pressure is really on now andi can. the pressure is really on now and i think that the prime minister wa nts to and i think that the prime minister wants to go into the weekend, into the conservative party conference, to try to have these headlines of humiliation, embarrassment, having been undermined by this summit that to the uk by surprise in terms of the tone coming out from eu leaders, she wants to be gain some momentum to say i am still the person to be in charge of this. she is sticking
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to her chequers proposals which seemingly have been rejected from all sides. thank you. that brings you up to speed on what's been happening this afternoon. let's now talk to stephen kinnock, labour mp for aberavon and member of brexit select committee. we should say, a remainer. thanks for being with us, we were hearing bell theresa may's defiant tone, a sense perhaps she had been disrespected by her colleagues in the eu. what did you make of it?” think we have seen the writing on the wall for some time, the brexit select committee went to meet with michel barnier right back at the beginning of september. we told the prime minister, i told dominic raab, this deal was dead and it is now very clearly dead as dead as a dodo. i don't know why the prime minister refuses to listen when the eu simply says, we have got our position on the single market, we can't see anything that undermines the integrity of the single market, it is as simple as that. she says now
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we are waiting for the eu to come forward with proposals but it's the uk that is leaving the eu. it occurred years to get chequers agreed by her cabinet. —— it took her two years. agreed by her cabinet. —— it took her two yea rs. clearly agreed by her cabinet. —— it took her two years. clearly in that time she had not done any alignment with the eu so we're in this absurd is situation, she had produced a chequers agreement from her cabinet which had been in no way landed or agreed with the eu. no wonder we are in this chaotic and shambolic situation. it is rapidly turning our country into a laughing stock, frankly. does that not take all onus off the eu to compromise in any way? your position seems to be we must keep going back to them with a new position until they say yes, we are happy. position until they say yes, we are happy- why position until they say yes, we are happy. why don't they have to meet halfway as theresa may might suggest? i lived and worked in brussels for many years, the way the european union works is on the basis of models. like it or loathe it, thatis
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of models. like it or loathe it, that is simply the reality. it's been clear from the start, you either have a canada style model or you have a european economic area style model. what you do with the european union is agreed a basic foundations, it's like building a house. get the foundations in place, the blueprint, then you can argue about the doors, windows and the colour of the curtains. because the government utterly failed and spent two years arguing amongst themselves, they have not got the basic foundation of a deal in place. if we had gone to the eu from the start which is what i have been saying for years now, saying we need the european economic area as the basic model, we won't solve the northern irish model unless we are in some form of customs union and single market but we need serious reform on the way free movement of labour works. articles 112 and 113 of the agreement actually enable the suspension and reform of any one of the four freedoms that underpin the single market. first you must agree the basic foundations of the deal. rather than try to pull a rabbit out
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of the hat and create something create something really new, which the eu looks at and says, this is just going to undermine the integrity of the single market which is our red line. i'm afraid the prime minister has utterly failed to understand the way that the european union works. i'm afraid she is surrounded by advisers and other conservative mps who also don't understand the way the process works. get the foundations in place, then you can actually have a negotiation about the key issues you may have within that framework. thank you. joining me now on the line is the liberal democrat leader sir vince cable. thank you for being with us. let's get your response first of all to what the prime minister said about her frustration with these negotiations and the fact she feels they have reached an impasse.” com pletely they have reached an impasse.” completely agree with what stephen kennan was telling you i think that was a very fair analysis. the
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problem is not the eu. the chequers plan as it was described had already been killed off in the uk before she went to the european union. trying to blame the europeans for it is just unhelpful. it has been very clear from the just unhelpful. it has been very clearfrom the beginning of just unhelpful. it has been very clear from the beginning of the negotiations that the northern ireland border issue had to be resolved and it had to be resolved ina way resolved and it had to be resolved in a way that did not involve obstacles in a way that did not involve o bsta cles to in a way that did not involve obstacles to trade across the irish frontier. obstacles to trade within the uk. this is a clear position and there is a way of reconciling, as stephen kennan pointed out, you adopt one of two different models. the preferable one would be for britain to remain within the customs union. continuing to bash our head against that brick wall is com pletely against that brick wall is completely foolish. likely to lead to lots of damage as well. you say com pletely to lots of damage as well. you say completely foolish but we did hear
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from the prime minister that that proposal would mean abiding by eu rules, with no ability to make trade deals on her own, she said she would utterly reject that proposal. presumably she would say that is because she is negotiating a longer term set by the brexit referendum and she is sticking to the will of the british people. this has nothing to do with the brexit referendum. red lines which are set out in the lancaster speech and which she is observing strictly not actually fundamental to brexit, you could have a form of brexit which does respect the single markets, albeit modified, and the customs union. that is one variant of brexit which is so obviously sensible and would bea is so obviously sensible and would be a compromise between the various positions but she is locked in to rigid position is dictated her critics in the conservative party. asa critics in the conservative party. as a result, the whole country is
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being put at risk. when you say put at risk, do you believe we are now headed towards crashing out of the european union with no deal. that is a possibility and a worrying one. actually, i think what many of us see as now most likely is that we get into what people are beginning to call a blind brexit where some form of fudge is agreed with the european union to get past march next year, and then all these difficult technical issues which are actually fundamental to our economic relationship around trade are just kicked down the road. this is a slow puncture rather than a blow out. you get a flat tyre at the end of it. it's not at all helpful to the uk. thank you. where does the uk's relationship with the eu now stand? we can speak to the foreign minister of poland
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when donald tusk of the eu council was prime minister. thank you for taking time to speak to us here on bbc news. we see now is situation where this is described as an impasse, is there a way is described as an impasse, is there a way out? britain must decide what it wants within the existing eu treaties, within what is conceivable, doable in the state of eu law. much time has been wasted because she has not decided which model of the relationship it once. the normal model, the turkey model, the canada model, and britain needs to externalise the fact that each model implies trade—offs. between sectors of the economy but also between the economy and sovereignty. just like membership did, or does. except that of course from a nonmembership perspective, you are
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— your nonmembership perspective, you are —— your negotiating position is weaker. this is not believe yet realised in the conservative party i think. presumably you would say that the prime minister is still trying to put forward a model that is as spoke to the uk and has not grasped that the european union will never accept that? —— a model that is best spoke to the uk. britain is trying to do what it is always tried to do which is kept on the eu all bits that are convenient and advantageous to britain without all the annoying ones. for a long time, to britain without all the annoying ones. fora long time, it to britain without all the annoying ones. for a long time, it was getting it, it got the agricultural jobs, opt out from the euro and schengen and so on. but what is achievable for the member states that we will be terror is not a cce pta ble that we will be terror is not acceptable for a third country. it's interesting to hear you say that because it gives us the perspective
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of someone looking in on the uk and it sounds like there would be plenty of european leaders who are rolling their eyes at this point saying, here go britain again.” their eyes at this point saying, here go britain again. i suspect they might do that. the continent wa nts to they might do that. the continent wants to have the best possible relationship with britain and we regret very much that britain is leaving. britain has its interests and we have ours. ourfirst leaving. britain has its interests and we have ours. our first interest is to preserve the source of our prosperity, which is the single market. the single market may not be corrupted by unclear or illegal relationships with third countries. a final thought, you worked alongside donald tusk, you would have known him well both personally and more importantly as a negotiator, as a leader. do you see him asa negotiator, as a leader. do you see him as a man who is now running out of patience? no, ithink him as a man who is now running out of patience? no, i think he regrets
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that he sees brexit as a defeat of his, it's not a good thing for a member state to be leaving for his president of the council. he would like this process to be as smooth as possible but remember his first duty is to protect the interests of the member states. in this case, not just the 27 but in particular ireland. britain is finding out that it is faced with this club that you are leaving, but the club continues. the membership and the committee have their views about overseas members. good to have your analysis, thank you. in the last hour nigel dodds has told the bbc, it's important theresa may shows she "won't be bullied by brussels." the answer in flexibility and the
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bullying tactics of the eu when they clubbed together to reject out of hand, without giving any reason is, proposals being put forward by the british side, it demonstrates what we have believed for a long time, the eu is not negotiating in good faith. when it comes to northern ireland they are not even negotiating within the parameters of the belfast agreement or any subsequent agreements, and it seems to be their way or no way. the prime minister has stated in downing street very firmly once again, no customs border down the irish sea. is there in your view any scope for any kind of regulatory checks between northern ireland and the rest of the uk? i think it is time now the prime minister demonstrates publicly, privately and to everyone in her own party and to europe, to parliament... she is not going to be bullied, she is not going to be coerced into either doing a bad dealfor the uk or breaking up the united kingdom,
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so i welcome what she has said today in those terms. as far as we are concerned, we are absolutely determined to ensure there will be no break—up of the uk, no border down the irish sea, either customs or regulatory. the prime minister said today they would be no regulatory barriers between northern ireland and the rest of the uk. i have heard a lot speculation on this. if you go back to the joint account in december, it explicitly confirmed they will be no new regulatory barriers. the view of the executive and the assembly in northern ireland, we will never be supporting anything that divides northern ireland from the rest of the uk. two major drugs companies have failed in a legal bid
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to prevent nhs doctors prescribing a cheaper treatment for a debilitating eye condition. the drug avastin is just as effective as the two existing treatments for wet age—related macular degeneration and the decision could save the nhs as much as 500 million pounds a year. our health correspondent dominic hughes has been assessing today's ruling. there are around 26,000 people who suffer from this. there are two existing treatments used to help people with this condition which is very debilitating, it can lead to rapid eye loss and inhibit people in their day—to—day lives but there is a third treatment that doctors in 12 clinical commissioning groups in the north of england wanted to be able to offer their patients, that is this drug avastin which is normally
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used to treat cancerous tumours but for more than a decade it's been known to be very effective in also treating wet amd. it's widely used in the united states and parts of the european union but it's not licensed for the treating of that particular condition in this country. doctors in these 12 commissioning groups in the north of england wanted to be able to offer that treatment and here is the crucial thing, it's also much cheaper than the two existing treatments. as well as being as effective and safe as the existing treatments, it would save the nhs and awful lot of money. the two drug companies which produce the two existing treatments wanted a judicial review of that decision. that has been found to have failed in the high court today. we heard from doctor david hamilton who is the chief officer of the south tyneside ccg, one of the groups that was trying to introduce this new policy, he has told us this was a
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great day for patients and a great day for the nhs. we've always said that we think it's important that patients have the choice of an effective treatment for amd. and it's actually a fraction of the cost of the other alternatives. so, i think what we plan to do now is offer patients that choice. we believe very strongly that they will support having a very cost—effective and very safe treatment and saving the nhs generally a lot of money. a lot of money indeed because the amount could total up to £500 million across the uk. the drug companies, the two drug companies took a different view, saying it's a bad day for patients and a bad day for the nhs and a bad day for doctors. they say it undermines the legal and regulatory framework that protected patients for years and allows doctors to prescribe with confidence. they say they are considering an appeal against the decision, but in the meantime it's being seen by many practitioners and clinicians as a big win for the nhs. let's take you live
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to glasgow where we can speak to mike burdon, president at the royal college of opthalmologists. he was part of the decision—making process which enabled doctors to prescribe avastin. thanks for being with as. talk us through the kind of considerations you had to give to this decision.” was not part of the actualjudicial review but i'm proud of the work the royal college of ophthalmology at this has done in facilitating the discussion between the various professional bodies that have allowed m rs professional bodies that have allowed mrs justice were professional bodies that have allowed mrsjustice were able to make a very comprehensive, very well argumentjudgment make a very comprehensive, very well argument judgment today. i make a very comprehensive, very well argumentjudgment today. i was not there in the trial but i was there working with others to facilitate the debate that has been coming on for the last six years. given that has been such a long—running debate, why has it taken so long to come to
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closure in this way? i think it's because of some very complicated licensing issues, these licensing laws are there for good reason. to protect patients. but i think we have got to the position where this particular drug, avastin, has been shown to be as safe as they alternatives and far cheaper. therefore in the context of a resource limited nhs, in the context of ophthalmologists working in a hugely under resourced by department, seeing excessive money being spent on the treatment which did not need to be spent, has driven us did not need to be spent, has driven us forward to make this happen. i can see all the reasons why this has occurred and why it's taken so long but i'm very grateful this landmark ruling has come out today. in terms of the implications perhaps more widely, you talked about the complexities of the licensing system. we heard from dominic hughes that the two companies who have the more expensive drugs said this undermined the regulatory framework and that they were not happy with
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the challenge to the licensing system. do you think we are going to see that loosen up a bit so there can be lawfully fluidity on some of these decisions? a very good question and i'm afraid i'm not qualified to answer it. it's been very interesting to try and identify in the last three years who is able to a nswer in the last three years who is able to answer that question. i think the key thing mrs justice to answer that question. i think the key thing mrsjustice whipple has done today is clarify the legal position in a way ijust can't. my impression of her judgment position in a way ijust can't. my impression of herjudgment is that she sees this as a unique judgment that does not necessarily compromise the very appropriate licensing regulations we have in this country. thank you. particularly for having a go ata thank you. particularly for having a go at a question that rather came out of the blue. time for a look at the weather..... the autumn equinox is on the cards? i feel i should be standing here with a dog with flappy ears in the
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wind to light the tone with all these brexit owns a bit! i am going to bring it down even more, summer is over. this weekend, an equal day of daylight and darkness, saturday into sunday which is really quite fitting when have just had storm ali and broner. it feels quite autumnal. it normally comes between the 23rd to the 24th but this weekend it's overnight saturday into sunday. from sunday onwards, daylight hours starting to get a little bit less each day. the good news is it will quieten down after all this upheaval in the weather and up evil? you can't predict the political scene but the weather might quieten down? is easier to predict the weather! we might seea is easier to predict the weather! we might see a little less stormy weather on the dry weather set to return into next week. an unsettled weekend ahead but let's just end of a bit more of an optimistic note. i pressure set to return next week, a
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really quiet week, all those gale force winds we have seen, very nice indeed. before that, some pretty miserable weather into the weekend i'm afraid. storm broner bought a month's worth of rain if you haven't already heard across sheffield, over 60 millimetres of rain fell. the storm has eased but it has allowed a change of wind direction. if you've been out, you will know about it. the wind, the isobars, quite tightly packed together, coming from a north—westerly direction. a cooler fuel across the country and that is having quite an impact as well. quite blustery those wins, they will continue to ease down do this evening and the sunny spells and scattered showers we have seen, hopefully those showers will ease away as well. for the remainder of the afternoon, it is sunny spells and scattered showers, a cool breeze and scattered showers, a cool breeze and temperatures down in southern areas. a maximum of 11 to 16 or 17
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degrees. through tonight, those showers will fade and we will see sky clearing. with the exception into the far north of scotland, it continues to stay breezy care with a scattering of showers. with clear skies, temperatures will fall so potentially a chilly start a saturday morning but it should be dry with light winds and sunshine coming through, quite a promising start. it's not going to last. the cloud. to gather into the south—west and for some of us we will see a pretty wet and windy end to the day. the worst affected areas, the south coast, along with southwest, into south wales. not bad for scotland and northern ireland, despite cloud will stay dry for much of eastern england noticeably cooler, i must stress this, 11 to 15 degrees. we have seen temperatures in the low 20s across southern england, it's worth bearing in mind, particularly if you were caught in wind and rain, thatis if you were caught in wind and rain, that is going to feel really autumnal. even once we get out of
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saturday into sunday, a significant area of low pressure looks likely to threaten across england and wales. this will bring yet more wet and windy weather, potentially as the rain starts to edge it sways steadily east we could see gales picking up behind but the best of the weather for the weekend, scotla nd the weather for the weekend, scotland and northern ireland. it will be cool for all but you get some dry weather with some sunny spells. this is bbc news, our latest headlines. theresa may issues a defiant statement on brexit, accusing eu leaders of bringing talks to an impasse. speaking from downing street the prime minister accused eu leaders of rejecting her plans without offering a detailed explanation and counter—proposals. no one wants a good deal more than me, but the eu should be clear. i will not overturn the result of the referendum, nor will i break up my country. we need serious engagement on resolving the two big problems in the negotiations.
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two major pharmaceutical companies lose a legal bid to prevent the nhs prescribing a cancer drug to treat a debilitating eye condition. the drug, avastin,could save the nhs £500 million a year. bbc research suggests councils across the uk employ nearly forty different sets of rules on recycling plastics. while almost all authorities collect plastic bottles, very few will accept plant pots and clingfilm. the poll indicates that many householders are confused by what can be taken. wolf alice. indie band wolf alice, are surprise winners of the mercury prize, for their album ‘visions of a life.‘ sport now on afternoon live with olly foster
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at the bbc sport centre, and it's been a special day for european golf olly to talk about oliver fisher shooting a 59. there's a big fight tomorrow at wembley as anthonyjoshua defends his titles. a hole in one, that a special, very few players achieve that. especially professionals in their careers. this is really the holy grail, the lowest score, managing to go around on a golf course in on their 60 strokes, very few players have done that and history has been made, the portugal masters, englishman oliver fisher sought —— shot the first sub 60 were round on the door, 69 strokes on his second round. this is the 18th green. he had that birdie putt for around a 58, the call close came. he just missed out on that, left himself a tap in for 59, a just missed out on that, left himselfa tap infor59, a round just missed out on that, left himself a tap in for 59, a round of 12 under par, just the one
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tournament in his career, reached a high of 161, today's round is all the more remarkable because he could only go around in bar yesterday. the more remarkable because he could only go around in bar yesterdaym feels great to make history in portugal. it's a great tournament, it's a great mark for the european tour. going out, trying to make the cut at level par and then shooting that's is a great day all around. what a great day indeed, a break in the 60 strokes barrier has been done afairfew times the 60 strokes barrier has been done a fairfew times on the 60 strokes barrier has been done a fair few times on the us pga tour, perhaps it easier or perhaps they arejust perhaps it easier or perhaps they are just better. the perhaps it easier or perhaps they arejust better. the us ryder cup captain we will see more of the next week in france, he has done it twice but fisher, the first to do it on the european tour, quite something. we will go with the idea that it's easier. talk to us about boxing, it's the heavyweights who are limbering up ready for tomorrow. weighing each other up, have weighed
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in at it —— ahead of the title defence, anthonyjoshua in at it —— ahead of the title defence, anthony joshua is in at it —— ahead of the title defence, anthonyjoshua is facing alexander, it's going to be a sell—out that will be tomorrow night, not sure about the weather, i think some of the seats will get very wet. joshua is almost too stone heavier than the russian, a lot of pre—fight talk is centred on the challenges doping record, he failed to separate tests a couple of years ago and because of boxing it's very different doping protocols between the sanctioning bodies and sometimes inconsistent testing procedures followed —— as well. he has avoided an indie band and gets the pipes anthonyjoshua. an indie band and gets the pipes anthony joshua. my job in this issue is to show the none drug cheat is a stronger and better fighter and that's what i have to do and that's why i have to fight. if they were so concerned about drug cheats he would be in the position to fight me saturday night but obviously the powers that be have let it happen, andi powers that be have let it happen, and i have to deal with that. some
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others for its news for you now, england have named their test score for franca and the last couple of minutes, there have been call ups for the county championship top run scorer, also of the batsmen who has helped his country get promotion back to the top division. that could be the new england opening partnership with alastair cook now a retired. although keatonjennings has been retained in a 16 man squad. also first test call up, he may be one—day squad for the shirlington as well also for the spinnerjack, england are going to play three tests in november. the scotland by tests in november. the scotland rugby union fullback stuart is going to miss all four matches in the international seaweed, he has had surgery on an ankle problem, he's going to be out for up to three months. he was injured playing for glasgow a few weeks ago, he will mix —— missed the november matches against wales, fiji, south africa, and argentina. that's all the sport
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for now. thank you very much. more now on the latest developments around brexit. in the past half an hour, in an unusual and uncompromising live, televised address from downing street, theresa may directly challenged eu leaders over their proposals for britain's relationship with the brussels once the uk leaves the eu. the prime minister said the uk could not make further progress in talks until the eu offered whast she she described as "serious engagement" on two negotiating issues: a future economic relationship and the question of the irish border. the eu is still only offering us two options. the first option which involved the uk staying in the european economic area and a customs union with the eu. in plain english, this would mean we still have to abide by all the eu rules, uncontrolled immigration for the eu would continue and we couldn't do trade deals we want with other countries. that would make a mockery of the referendum we had two years
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ago. creating any form of customs border between northern ireland and the rest of the uk would not respect that northern ireland is an integral part of the united kingdom. in line with the principle of consent as set out clearly in the belfast good friday agreement. it is something i will never agree to. indeed in myjudgement, it is something no british prime minister would ever agree to. if the eu believe i will, they are making a fundamental mistake. anything which fails to respect the referendum or which effectively divides our country in two would be a bad deal. i have always said, no deal is better than a bad deal. we both agree that the withdrawal agreement needs to include a backstop to ensure that if there is a delay in implementing our new relationship
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there still won't be a hard border between ireland and northern ireland. but the eu is posing to achieve this by effectively keeping northern ireland in the customs union. as i have already said, that is unacceptable. we will never agree to it. it would mean breaking up our country. we will set out our alternative that preserves the integrity of the uk and it will be in line with the commitments we made back in december, including the commitment that no eu regulatory barriers should be created between northern ireland and the rest of the uk, unless the northern ireland executive and assembly agree. as i told eu leaders, neither side should demand the unacceptable of the other. we cannot accept anything that
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threatens the integrity of our union just as they cannot accept anything that threatens the integrity of bears. we cannot accept anything that does not respect the results of the referendum, just as they cannot accept anything which is nothing the interest of their citizens. no one wants a good deal than me, but the eu should be clear, i will not overturn the result of the referendum, nor will i break up the country. we need serious engagement on resolving the two big problems in the negotiations and we stand ready. earlier i spoke to the shadow brexit secretary, sir keir starmer. he said the prime minister's statement showed her strategy was not working. the prime minister's negotiation strategy is collapsing around her, and that's why we in this impasse. and now the country has turned down the barrel of no deal, i think of apples of anxiety
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going on around the country day after day and the minister i think it appearing to be in denial. i don't understand why she's failed to hear the message that the proposal was not when to be accepted by the eu and frankly, it's not going to be accepted by our own party, that's been rolling news for weeks on end. so i'm not sure why this is, as surprise to her. and simply repeating the mantra that nothing has changed, thatjeopardised the deal which she's proposing is not really very convincing. what she said though is that she feels what she was saying has been rejected without any detailed explanation and without any counterproposals from the eu, the thing they have been short on detail? i think both sides need to be flexible. i certainly think both sides need to be respectful as we go into these final weeks. there are only four weeks till
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the october summit and there's a gap between the parties and that gap has to be bridged because otherwise we're going to end up with no deal. which is going to be catastrophic, the question i suppose is this, how does the prime minister bridge that gap? because, her own party is challenging her over the checkers brand and how on earth does she negotiate from there was mad because the moment she tries to bridge the gap between where she is a gritty eu her own party will challenge her, so the roots of this problem is right here back in the uk with a divided conservative party. there are many people who say that's rather rich coming from what could be described as a divided labour party, reports in papers in the last few days you yourself almost resigned over your sprint forjeremy corbyn on the issue of brexit. i think we have got to get this in perspective, you have got four weeks to go on the most important negotiations and the second world war and a decades long war on europe in the conservative party. now risks the negotiation.
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that is a huge divide in the party. i'm not pretending the labour party are all united on everything, there's a massive difference between the sorts of things that labour party is concerned with and the imminent challenge of closing the gap with the eu. if we end up with no deal because the tory party is too divided to allow the negotiation to succeed, that is a calamity and so these are different orders of events. plenty of reaction coming out following that televised statements by the prime minister, just to give you a flavour of some of the other political party than what they have been saying. the reaction from sinn fein dare, brexit spokesman david saying theresa may was given a hard dose of reality at salzburg, checkers is a dead duck, it's not
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workable, everybody knows that he says including i suspect theresa may herself. he says she's put too much political capital into it to let go and move to a viable alternative. but crucially as you would expect, it says regardless of the merits of checkers or not, one thing is certain, according to sinn fein, there can be no withdrawal agreement without a backstop for the north. so at going the whole importance of northern ireland to the border question sinn fein dare. reaction on —— reaction coming in from scotland's first minister, nicola sturgeon, a dreadful start meant that statement she refers to me by the prime minister. another reference to checkers as a dead duck, she said she blamed the eu for ano duck, she said she blamed the eu for a no deal and she's doing huge damage to all those supposed to serve. they are the solutions she say is the only remotely workable way to do brexit is to stay in the single market and the customs union. if the prime minister is now prepared to do that, brexit should not happen. but according to the as
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and be. and then finally you will recall in that speech that theresa may gave she was very critical of eu leaders and said they had rejected the uk's proposals without any detailed reasons, that has been strongly refuted in a comment from an official to the bbc. this official saying michelle barney is provided complete parity throughout the negotiation process as to why they would reject the key part of they would reject the key part of the checkers brand. this is not an outcome that has, as this official says out of the blue. they are not surprised though that theresa may said what she did because of the ha rd said what she did because of the hard times she received in the british press this morning and the suggestion that perhaps she needed an excuse to be seen to come out fighting. so, strong reaction there and a rebuttal essentially of the prime minister's claimed that are really this was unfair of the eu to not give any details and they say there have been plenty of detail and
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plenty of warning that her proposal was unacceptable to them. we will have plenty more to come on all of that but now a change of tone. thousands of artifacts salvaged from the wreck of the titanic are to be auctioned. british museums are raising money to help keep them in public hands. more than 5000 artefacts will go under the hammer after the company that owns them went bankrupt, but there's also huge interest in the items from hedge funds in the us. the director of the royal museums greenwich dr kevin fewsterjoins me now. you have the task of trying to co—ordinate this bit on the half of british museums and will come to that in a moment but first of all its fascinating that there is this number of artifacts available to be bought, tell us more about where they have been sitting all this time and the kind of things that they are. the shipwreck was in 1985 -- a very famous oceanographer. he to
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leave everything where it wanted was so he did not raise anything and this man because the ship was lying in international waters, nor magic laws were applied. two years later and american groups at himself up as and american groups at himself up as a company with the intention of raising material from the debris field around where the ship went down. so, over the field around where the ship went down. so, overthe next field around where the ship went down. so, over the next ten, 12 yea rs down. so, over the next ten, 12 years they'll raise some five objects, everything from literally bits of the ship itself which broke away when the ship broke into, fittings and fixtures from the ships and personal items like that including fascinating things like soup —— food casings and what a pack for entrepreneur before a new life and then have been kept on the ocean floor because they've been protected within a case. so, the collection has been in the hands of the company called titanic incorporated, they got bought out several times, it's now owned by a larger company called
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premier exhibitions and they went bankrupt in 2016. this is now being sold off, all of these artifacts and they are a lot of interest as to who might bid for eight and of course from your point of view, the natural home for these things is in museums. yes, the moment they're owned by a commercial company so what has happened now happen again. if they are sold one of the commercial company, they have the same financial problems or just company, they have the same financial problems orjust decide to try and make it quick and equally though, there's archaeological collections like this should be together for researchers and the public and for future generations. there is a real risk that this collection could be sold off piecemeal, individual objects sold off and once that happens of course it would be impossible to bring a collection back together and keep it and bring it back into the wholeness of one collection whereas if it comes to us as britain but buzz national maritime museum working in conjunction with colleagues in northern ireland and belfast, we
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would bring it into the national collection and it would be preserved forever more intact is a collection forever more intact is a collection for us and children and all generations. i think i am for us and children and all generations. i think! am right in saying in order to have a chance of buying this you have to find around £19 million. no, dollarsl buying this you have to find around £19 million. no, dollars i am pleased to say. tell us to think, how you're doing towards that target and secondly how to mistake you are because clearly there are a lot of private bidders will be interested in this collection. yes, several things, we are doing well, we are doing very well and we are fund—raising from a stand start and so we are well on the way to reaching that target. or should i say at this stage because we are not the buyer and so we can only ask major supporters for pledges in the hope that we get to that position. second thing is you say about major collectors, collectors might usually wa nt to collectors, collectors might usually want to buy one or two things or have a small id., we are talking here about five and a half thousand
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objects so to do that you need rather more special conditions, storage and the rights of environmental conditions and the right sort of staff, we of course have all those things at the national maritime museum in greenwich and that's why we are the most appropriate place for this collection to be housed in perpetuity. that is taking into account i understand we can't go into details but i can swing it for you not just about who into details but i can swing it for you notjust about who has the most money there are all sorts of considerations. exactly, you have ba n kru ptcy considerations. exactly, you have ba nkru ptcy courts considerations. exactly, you have bankruptcy courts but also there's what we call britain court and a court for many years has been charged with who is best to care for and protect these collections. so evenif and protect these collections. so even if we don't win in the ba n kru ptcy even if we don't win in the bankruptcy court, i hope we do, even if we don't win this other court accident that who is the most appropriate institutions to hold onto these and look after them for the future. we wish you well with that process. thank you very much for telling us all about it. the indie rock band wolf alice, is the winner of this
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year's prestigious mercury prize. their second album, ‘visions of a life', beat more established acts like noel gallagher, the arctic monkeys and lily allen, who appears not to have been very happy about losing out. colin paterson has more. wolf alice. cheering. indie band wolf alice, winners of the mercury prize for their second album, ‘visions of a life'. the judges said it combined the epic and intimate in equal measure. they were visibly shocked by the result. thank you so much! cheering. # she's beautifully unconventional # she seems to be # from the best place in the world #. this was the second time they had made the mercury shortlist, but theirfirst win. in fact, no female—fronted act had triumphed since pj harvey seven years ago. immediately after they came off stage, they told me why it meant so much to them. i think i have always found being a musician, being a performer, the whole music industry, extremely intimidating and i've been scared about it and not
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known what i was doing. but here we are, four best friends and we still don't know what we're doing. but we're here. you know... it means everything. i don't know. i don't know the answer to that question. i'm just so happy! that wasn't the case with everyone. lily allen was seen on camera in tears and later took to social media to say "someone call 999, i've been robbed". as for wolf alice, they can expect a big post—mercury sales boost, with visions of a life set to shoot back up the charts. colin paterson, bbc news. susannah streeter is here, in a moment she will be telling us what's hot and what's not in the business news. first a look at the headlines on afternoon live. theresa may demands the eu breaks the impasse in brexit talks, after her plan was rejected by european leaders. the health service
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could save hundreds of millions of pounds every year, after two drug firms failed in their legal efforts, to block the use a cheaper treatment for an eye condition. here's your business headlines on afternoon live: the pound's fall against the dollar and the euro has deepened following theresa may's statement that "no deal is better than a bad deal". sterling was already trading lower after had eu leaders warned the uk must make compromises on trade and the irish border to secure a brexit trade deal. government borrowing rose by more than expected last month following lower tax receipts and an increase in spending. borrowing jumped to £6.75bn last month from £4.35bn a year earlier. however, borrowing for the year to date is just over 30% lower than last year at £17.8bn. discount supermarket chain lidl has announced that it will stop using black plastic packaging across its range of
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vegetables and fruit. the supermarket says it could save an estimated 50 tonnes of black plastic waste a year. other supermarkets including waitrose have also pledge to stop using such containers. we heard from theresa may today, brexit not going smoothly and of course not having an impact. it's having an impact on starting in particular, sterling is heading for its biggest one—day fall this year, its biggest one—day fall this year, it was already falling against a basket of currencies following the eu summit 20 became clear that the eu summit 20 became clear that the eu leaders did not think that that checkers brexit plan was workable. and since then theresa may began her speech sterling fell even further today, i don't know if you can see on the board but i can tell you. we have big pictures of coins.”
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on the board but i can tell you. we have big pictures of coins. i can tell you it did all the work, down to as low as $130.8 against the dollar, 1.4% on the day, day, it's really because investors fear we are edging closer to a no go brexit scenario. they say that is very worrying because there's a really uncertain outcome for the uk economy, we had a report out today from the ees, the manufacturers organisation saying that this would become untenable for one in six manufacturers they say that as part of this survey today. early on the week starting had been on the rise but certainty that confidence has ebbed away today. you've been looking at consumer rights, what to do if you bought something that's fa u lty do if you bought something that's faulty and you're not happy about it. this was prompted by a report coming out today which has found that last year, consumers spent many millions of pounds on goods without adequate protection. to find out more lives have a chat to matthew was the chief executive of the service. was particular sectors are most concerned about? we found the
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sectors most under protected tended to be in areas like travel, retail, gambling as well was one of the other once we're there is no automatic right for people to be able to go to independent free third—party dispute resolution. able to go to independent free third-party dispute resolution. what kind of dispute resolution and what kind of dispute resolution and what kind of dispute resolution and what kind of guarantees should consumers expect? we think it's important that whenever you're buying any product or service, a something goes wrong you should have a clear way of getting that right, and in many of these sectors where there is not an obvious route it can be confusing because there's too many bodies providing or because itjust is not an obvious mandatory right to go there it means that people left the expose. it means they're going to court much more quickly? yes, that tends to be more stressful and time—consuming and expensive process. what should companies do, make it much more clear particularly on value at what our rights are?” think that's part of the answer,
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yes, companies where there is alternative this beaut resolutions where there are independent third—party groups, you know signing up third—party groups, you know signing up to them and making it clear to customers that they have got the right to go there, that is a really important part of it. part of the problem here is that's not something that's required in every sector. so consumers can be that's really under protected when they are making some purchases. thank you. that's all the business units from me for now, let's have a full market round up in the next hour. let's go and look at the next hour. let's go and look at the weather prospects. today has been a breezy day, sunny stall than scattered showers, the wind direction is changed from the northwesterly a nd wind direction is changed from the northwesterly and is a cooler fuel for all 11 through 18 degrees at the very best. as we move through the night tonight to let the dismissal ridge of high pressure building, whitening things down, junie chilly night to come before we see more wet weather pushing into the southwest.
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so it's a cool start but if anyone from any, club gathers this way and arise from the southwest, some of it quite persistent towards the south coast, southwest england and into south wales and i will make it feel quite cool across southern areas, 13 to 15 degrees. more sunshine further north, 11 through 13 degrees is the high here as well. more wet and windy weather to come on sunday for england and wales, the brighter weather will be open to the far northwest but as the rain clears, the wind will become more of a feature, deals are likely as well. keep watching the forecast for further details on sunday's weather. goodbye. hello, you're watching afternoon live.
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i'm rachel schofield. today at apm: theresa may demands the eu breaks the impasse in brexit talks — and vows to defend the referendum result. no—one wants a good deal more than me. but the eu should be clear, i will not overturn the result of the referendum, nor will i break up my country. speaking after her brexit plan was rejected at an eu summit in salzburg, the prime minister said other european leaders should show the uk respect. throughout this process, i have treated the eu with nothing but respect. the uk expects the same. a good relationship at the end of this process depends on it.
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the pound tumbles — and heads for its biggest one—day fall this year — after the pm's statement renews fears of a no—deal brexit. the health service could save hundreds of millions of pounds every year, after two drug firms failed in their legal efforts, to block the use a cheaper treatment for an eye condition. a male model has been given a life sentence at the old bailey for murdering a rival in a row over a girlfriend. george koh stabbed 25—year—old harry uzoka during a fight in west london injanuary. coming up on afternoon live all the sport. ollie has been covering golf, boxing, you've got it all? we have a bit more for you. a record score on the european golf tour and in the last half an hour, england have named their test squad for the tool to sri lanka. who will open the
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batting? i love these little teases. we will wait and find out. louise, we never its been stormy out there, will it continue that way?” we never its been stormy out there, will it continue that way? i will give you a tease as well because we would all like some of this for the weekend but are we going to get it? wet and windy weather continues for some but not all. thank you. also coming up... indie band wolf alice, are surprise winners of the mercury prize, for their album ‘visions of a life.‘ hello, everyone. this is afternoon live. the prime minister has issued a defiant response to eu leaders who rejected her brexit proposals, calling on them to treat britain with respect and to engage seriously with the negotiations.
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in an unusual televised address from downing street theresa may demanded that european leaders needed to offer counterproposals on two deadlocked issues — namely trade and the irish border. she said the eu was making what she called a "fundamental mistake" if it believed she would agree to anything which undermined the referendum or divided northern ireland from the rest of the united kingdom. the eu is still only offering us two options. the first option would involve the uk staying in the european economic area and a customs union with the eu. in plain english, this would mean we would still have to abide by all the eu rules. uncontrolled immigration from the eu would continue and we couldn't do trade deals we want with other countries. that would make a mockery of
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the referendum we had two years ago. creating any form of customs border between northern ireland and the rest of the uk would not respect that northern ireland is an integral part of the united kingdom, in line with the principle of consent, as set out clearly in the belfast good friday agreement. it is something i will never agree to. indeed, in my judgment, it is something no british prime minister would ever agree to. if the eu believe i will, they are making a fundamental mistake. anything which fails to respect the referendum or which effectively divides our country in two would be a bad deal. i have always said no deal is better than a bad deal. we both agree that the withdrawal agreement needs to include
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a backstop to ensure that if there is a delay in implementing our new relationship, there still won't be a hard border between ireland and northern ireland. but the eu is proposing to achieve this by effectively keeping northern ireland in the customs union. as i have already said, that is unacceptable. we will never agree to it. it would mean breaking up our country. we will set out our alternative that preserves the integrity of the uk and it will be in line with the commitments we made back in december, including the commitment that no new regulatory barriers should be created between northern ireland and the rest of the uk, unless the northern ireland executive and assembly agree. as i told eu leaders, neither side should demand the unacceptable of the other. we cannot accept anything that threatens the integrity of our union
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just as they cannot accept anything that threatens the integrity of theirs. we cannot accept anything that does not respect the result of the referendum, just as they cannot accept anything that is not in the interests of their citizens. no—one wants a good deal more than me. but the eu should be clear, i will not overturn the result of the referendum, nor will i break up my country. we need serious engagement on resolving the two big problems in the negotiations. and we stand ready. our political correspondent, leila nathoo is at westminster. a defiant tone from the prime minister. that's right, she could not really have gone for any other
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tone. she was left after yesterday's gathering of eu leaders in salzburg humiliated, embarrassed, undermined by their dismissal of her favoured proposals for the future relationship between the uk and the eu. she has chosen to come out fighting with a dog insistence that she will stick to those chequers plans and in that tone, that many say seemed to anger the eu over the last couple of days, rejecting an overture from michel barnier before the summit who said he was ready to improve their offer. the insurance policy offer on northern ireland, theresa may effectively saying to them, it's chequers or nothing. that seemed to ruffle feathers among eu leaders. here she is again striking that very defiant tone, repeating that very defiant tone, repeating that chequers was the only proposal
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that chequers was the only proposal that was acceptable to the uk. remember, chequers is the proposal that has been roundly rejected by especially in the brexiteers in her own party but also they remain a win, too. she has on both the toner of chequers or nothing and her commitment to those chequers proposals themselves. although the tone will have been aimed to try and regain some momentum, get back on the front but after damaging headlines this morning, the substance of the situation has not materially changed. indeed, it was interesting seeing an eu official talking to the bbc privately, but saying essentially that they are surprised theresa may has said she needs more detail and needs more rationality why this has been rejected because they made it very clear it was not going to find favour with them. that's right. she is trying to put the ball in the
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eu's court and say it's up to you now to come up with your own detailed proposals, counterproposals if you are so critical of my plan, but the eu would argue they have been consistent from the very start. there is only two options, as she laid out, one that respects the integrity of the single market or one that puts the uk at some distance economically away from the eu. that would allow the uk to do its own trade deals. the eu would say, we have not deviated at all from what we said at the very outset and the prime minister clear that she thinks it's up to them and now to try and move their red lines. they say the exact opposite, it is you who is trying to have it all, cake, eat it, cherries, all of those food metaphors are being used again. theresa may clear that she thinks this is her best strategy now, remember we are going into the tory
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conference in a week so she is trying to shore up her position in charge of these brexit negotiations ahead of that. and to try and say in these final weeks of the brexit negotiations before the october summit to say it's up to you, brussels, to move towards me. thank you. i'm nowjoined by stephanie liechtenstein who's a freelance journalist and diplomatic correspondent in austria. the prime minister talking about an impasse. do you think we have reached a stalemate now? yes, i think there is a problem here. because both sides have now made their position is very clear and it looks like there is a stalemate. i do think that we have to see this as big big bargaining games. time is
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running out, all the negotiations i have witnessed in the past year, thatis have witnessed in the past year, that is the typical characteristics. the last time you have, the more pressure you try to build up. i do think that both of these are sticking points, the irish border and the future trade relationship, there are actually communication channels going on in the background and ideas being exchanged between the two sides. it's just that both are now in a position where they are really trying to build up pressure to get their viewpoints across. where do you think the areas for compromise are on those two issues? theresa may in her televised statement was very clear that she is not prepared to budge from her position on the economic relationship. indeed, she was very ha rd relationship. indeed, she was very hard about her red lines on northern ireland. yes, that's a good
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question. from what i heard yesterday, there might be some light at the end of the tunnel with regards to the irish border question. michel barnier, who negotiates for the european side, a p pa re ntly negotiates for the european side, apparently made suggestions that goods that are entering ireland could be checked not at the border but for example inside factories or at sea ports. that would be a compromise in the sense that the border would be kept open and there would be no hard border between northern ireland and ireland, which isa northern ireland and ireland, which is a red line that is so important for the european union. a compromise is urging on that sticking point. the other issue with regard to the future trade relationship is, in my opinion, much more difficult. people now saying with the clock ticking,
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as you rightly said, that a no—deal brexit starts to look more likely, how do you feel eu leaders would countenance that idea ? how do you feel eu leaders would countenance that idea? what appetite is there to stick to their guns so much it ends with deal?” is there to stick to their guns so much it ends with deal? i don't think it's in the interests of the european union, any of the member states, to have a no—deal brexit. it not only affects as we see today the markets in the uk, it affects all of europe. it cannot be in the interest of europe to having no—deal brexit. nevertheless, i think the main point now is that both sides have made their red lines are clear, and since time is running out, no one is at least now publicly willing to compromise on any of the red lines. i think compromise on any of the red lines. ithinka compromise on any of the red lines. i think a no deal scenario is possible, but so are two other scenarios which would be a deal or even a deal which is then maybe not
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accepted in the uk parliament. all three are possible. i think the no deal is not in the interest, neither of the european union nor the uk. we can speculate now which is more likely. absolutely. thank you. let's leave brexit for a short while and turn elsewhere. two major drugs companies have failed in a legal bid to prevent nhs doctors prescribing a cheaper treatment for a debilitating eye condition. the drug avastin is just as effective as the two existing treatments for wet age—related macular degeneration and the decision could save the nhs as much as 500 million pounds a year. our health correspondent dominic hughes has been assessing today's ruling. there are around 26,000 people who suffer from wet amd. there are two existing treatments used to help people with this condition which is very
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debilitating, it can lead to rapid eye loss and inhibit people in their day—to—day lives but there is a third treatment that doctors in 12 clinical commissioning groups in the north of england wanted to be able to to offer their patients, that is this drug, avastin, which is normally used to treat cancerous tumours but for more than a decade it's been known to be very effective in also treating wet amd. it's widely used in the united states and parts of the european union but it's not licensed for the treating of that particular condition in this country. doctors in these 12 commissioning groups in the north of england wanted to be able to offer that treatment and here is the crucial thing, it's also much cheaper than the two existing treatments. as well as being as effective and safe as the existing treatments, it would save the nhs and awful lot of money. the two drug companies which produce the two existing treatments wanted a judicial review of that decision.
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that has been found to have failed in the high court today. we heard from doctor david hamilton who is the chief officer of the south tyneside ccg, one of the groups that was trying to introduce this new policy, he has told us this was a great day for patients and a great day for the nhs. we've always said that we think it's important that patients have the choice of an effective treatment for wet amd. and it's actually a fraction of the cost of the other alternatives. so, i think what we plan to do now is offer patients that choice. we believe very strongly that they will support having a very cost—effective and very safe treatment and saving the nhs generally a lot of money. a lot of money indeed because the amount could total up to £500 million across the uk. the drug companies, the two drug companies took a different view, saying it's a bad day for patients and a bad day for the nhs
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and a bad day for doctors. they say it undermines the legal and regulatory framework that protected patients for years and allows doctors to prescribe with confidence. they say they are considering an appeal against the decision, but in the meantime it's being seen by many practitioners and clinicians as a big win for the nhs. you're watching afternoon live, these are our headlines theresa may demands the eu breaks the impasse in brexit talks — after her plan was rejected by european leaders. the health service could save hundreds of millions of pounds every year — after two drug firms failed in their legal efforts, to block the use a cheaper treatment for an eye condition. the great recycling confusion — bbc research shows families don't know which bin to put their waste plastics into. englishman oliver fisher has become the first player to shoot
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a sub—60 round round on the european tour. he went round in 59 in the second round of the portugal masters. surrey batsman rory burns has been called into the england test squad for the first time. olly stone and joe denly have also been inclduded on the tour to sri lanka. world heavyweight champion anthony joshua has weighed in ahead of his title defence against alexander povetkin at wembley. he is almost two stone heavier than his russian opponent. a male model has beenjailed for at least 25 years for murdering his more successful fashion rival in a row about a girlfriend. george koh stabbed harry uzoka in the heart outside his house in shepherds bush in west london. a third manjonathan okigbo, who was convicted of manslaughter, will serve 1a years in prison. our correspondent, adina campbell has been following the case at the old bailey. the men showed no mention
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stick—macro emotion as the ruling was past year. the sentencing, a statement was read out on behalf of harry's mother, josephine jackson, which said his death has left a gaping hole, a void, a crack in our family, our lives changed forever when i got that phone call. the trauma has affected us emotionally and financially, he was an inspiration to all, a beautiful boy who will never be forgotten. today, george koh, who was described as the ringleader during this violent attack, was sentenced to life in prison with a minimum ofjust over 20 four years in prison. most
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candour, also convicted of murder and possessing and possessing an offensive weapon was sentenced to life in prison with a minimum term of 22 years in jail. jonathan ike ugbo was convicted of manslaughter and today was given a sentence of a0 yea rs and today was given a sentence of a0 years injail. and today was given a sentence of a0 years in jail. before and today was given a sentence of a0 years injail. before his death —— a sentence of 1a years. there had been a dispute that george had slept with harry's. bob friend and various m essa 9 es we re harry's. bob friend and various messages were sent which resulted in a fight. messages were sent which resulted in afight. on messages were sent which resulted in a fight. on the day of the fight, cctv showed the three men surrounding harry, the fight lasting a few minutes but harry was seen stumbling off watching his stomach after being stabbed in recent times, in the chest, shoulder and the. harry was described as a rising star within the modelling industry, taking part in big fashion campaigns
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with high street does designer labels and had just been offered a role within a british girl. during sentencing —— a british film. harry uzoka was said to be bowl remarkable talent and role model. she went on to say george koh's relationship with him was something between excessive admiration and spite. the coroner overseeing the inquests into the grenfell tower fire has called for an nhs screening programme for people who may have been exposed to smoke and dust. in a letter doctor fiona wilcox says there could be long—term health problems for survivors, emergency service teams and people working on the site. the main concern is that the building contained asbestos. the metropolitan police has admitted for the first time, that an undercover officer had a sexual relationship with an environmental activist, with the knowledge of his bosses. legal documents seen by the bbc, show that mark kennedy 5 line manager and several other officers, knew about his relationship with kate wilson, and allowed it to continue. up to now the police have maintained
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such relationships wouldn't have been sanctioned by senior officers. here's our home affairs correspondent, june kelly. he posed as mark stone, an environmental activist and a single man. in reality, he was mark kennedy, an undercover police officer, married with children. one of a number of officers who had relationships with women campaigners they were spying on. 15 years ago, mark kennedy began a two—year relationship with kate wilson. as a result, she is currently involved in legal action against the metropolitan police. in her case, the police have now admitted for the first time that mark kennedy's cover officers and his line manager knew about this relationship and allowed it to continue. so, we have been told... kate wilson is currently abroad.
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via skype she spoke about how this new information from the police contradicts what they told her when they paid her compensation. they gave me an apology in our civil claim where they say these relationships should never have happened, they would never have been authorised, and they were a case of failures of supervision and management, and that is just not the case. management were absolutely complicit in what was going on. mark kennedy, here with the newspaper, during his years undercover. kate wilson thought he was her political soulmate. kate was involved in socialjustice and environmental campaigning. she does not expect that the state could actually order or allow or acquiesce in an undercover officer having a sexual relationship in order to facilitate his gathering of intelligence. it's a very, very shocking revelation in a so—called democratic society. in a statement, scotland yard said that as a result of the ongoing legal action it would be
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inappropriate to comment at this stage. adding again that those relationships were wrong and should not have happened. kate wilson was just one of the women who was duped into a relationship with mark kennedy. the question now being asked is whether police bosses knew about all his undercover relationships, and those of the other police spies. june kelly, bbc news. the bbc has found that there are no less than 39 different sets of rules for plastics recycling across the uk, and understandably households are mightily confused as to what can, and cannot be put in recycling bins. now the government is considering changing the guidelines to make it all easierfor us, and crucially, boost domestic recycling rates. here's our science editor, david shukman. in swansea in south wales, pink bags are for plastic recycling. all over the country,
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different councils recycle plastic in different ways. in north oxfordshire, plastic goes into blue bins, along with all the other recycling, to be sorted later. in waltham forest in east london, black boxes are for plastic, and each council has its own rules about which kinds of plastic it'll take. confused? well, sue raymond lives near bracknell in berkshire, and like many, she isn't clear what to do. i don't know if i can put that in the bin, and whether that will get discarded the other end or whether they will recycle that. you will you assume you can or will you assume you can't? i will put that in. because you think it will probably be ok? i'd rather try, and put it in my recycling bin, rather than put it in my rubbish. to help sue with her plastic, we take her to the local recycling centre in reading for a look behind the scenes. the centre's manager adrian clarke is her guide. that will be made into food trays again. here, bottles, yoghurt pots and food
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cartons are all accepted. staff check everything is being sorted correctly. sue learns that if she gets things slightly wrong, the system can handle it. they seem quite tolerant with the amount of plastics that can go into the recycling bin, and they can do things with it. so i think i'm doing the right thing by putting it in. if i'm in any doubt, put it in. but other councils aren't so relaxed. some of them only want the most valuable plastic — the bottles — which can fetch several hundred pounds a tonne. that's why in greater manchester, officials are out telling householders only to recycle bottles, not to bother with other types of plastic. we only want plastic bottles, so other types of plastic we want in the general waste bin. it's true a lot of residents think they're doing the right thing because it must be plastic and it's all the same, but it's not. it's very complicated, i understand that. a few councils don't recycle any plastic at all.
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some of them accept as many as 15 different types of plastic. around the country, we've worked out there are as many 39 different plastic recycling schemes. so there's a lot of confusion, and perhaps it's not surprising that our opinion poll has found that as many as a7% of people admit to having a disagreement in the household about whether a particular plastic item can be recycled. amid all the confusion, the government wants to boost plastic recycling, maybe with better labels or having the same rules across the country. we'll find out later this year. david shukman, bbc news. time for a look at the weather. here's louise. with her alluring photo of rainbows and son but it's not been like that. it's been pretty rubbish, the weather. but proper. that plus
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brexit, we have decided we needed to light the load a bit and cheer everybody up. bring the dog back! we have got to have the dog photographs! i can allow this dog to return. i promised you a dog... there you go. a windswept dog. it illustrates there is a weather story to this. this is what it's been like, very windy and really cool. if you've been out walking the dog he will certainly know about it. i'm sure the owner and the dog were busted on the beach. it is exhilarating the wind, let's look at it that way. it has been pretty miserable and to add insult to injury, if you don't like the change of seasons, i'm afraid it is the equinox this weekend which means daylight hours on sunday onwards get a bit shorter each day. eating our tea in the dark before we know it. it's on its way, we cannot stop it, autumn and winter. we will be talking about
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christmas soon dare i say it. this is what's been happening across the uk as the storm moved steadily eastwards, behind it it did introduce something a bit cooler and pressure from the north—west. these strong winds driving across the country, you really notice the difference with the feel if you've been out there today, it's been driving ina been out there today, it's been driving in a frequent rash of showers across the north and west in particular some of those starting to ease a bit, they will continue to do so overnight tonight. into the far north of scotland, still breezy and pretty shaurya but elsewhere, we keep clear skies and temperatures are likely to fall away so it will bea are likely to fall away so it will be a chilly start to saturday morning and just a bit of a heads up as to what's to come in terms of the feel of the weather through the the weekend. it will start off chilly but we will see some sunshine and a bit of clouds starting to creep in from the south—west as they go through the day because this weather front will move into south—west england along the south coast into wales and it will bring some wet
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weather with it. underneath the cloud and rain with that north westerly flow, it will feel quite disappointing, 1a, 15. i can't emphasise enough across central and southern parts of england, we have seen temperatures earlier one this week in the 20s so get a maximum of 14 week in the 20s so get a maximum of 1a and you are under the cloud and rain, it's not going to feel great. that weather front will move away but another area of low pressure moves in from the west for the second half that weekend. still a level of uncertainty how far north this area of low pressure will be barred for england and wales it looks pretty miserable. the best of the weather the far north of england, scotland and northern ireland, sunny spells and scattered showers. once the rain clears we could see some winds, strengthening gales potentially and that will just exacerbate that cool feel. 11 to 1a degrees down on where we should be for this time of year. if you have not got the message, this weekend the best of the west are likely in
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the best of the west are likely in the north. wet and windy at times but cool for all this time of year. further details on sunday's weather. goodbye. this is bbc news, our latest headlines. theresa may has called on the european union to treat britain with respect, after it rejected her brexit strategy as unworkable. in a rare televised statement from inside downing street, mrs may said talks were now deadlocked because the eu had not put forward any counter proposals. no one wants a good deal more than me but the eu should be clear, i will not overturn the result of the referendum, nor would i break up my country. we need serious engagement on resolving the two big problems in the negotiations. two major pharmaceutical companies lose a legal bid to prevent the nhs prescribing a cancer drug to treat a debilitating eye condition. the drug, avastin, could
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save the nhs £500 million a year. a model has been given a life sentence for murdering a rival in a row over a girlfriend. george koh, who's 2a, stabbed 25—year—old harry uzoka in the heart during a fight in west london in january. he will serve a minimum of 2a years in prison. bbc research has revealed councils across the uk have nearly a0 different sets of rules for recycling plastic. while some authorities collect up to 15 types of plastic others don't pick up any at all. the poll indicates many families are confused by what can be taken. sport now on afternoon live with olly foster at the bbc sport centre, and it's been a special day for european golf olly to talk about oliver fisher shooting a 59. it's really special, something of a
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holy grail this is for professional golfers to get below 60 in a single round of golf, something very special indeed. it's never been achieved on the european tour until today. it happened at the portugal masters, englishman oliver fisher did it, he broke the sub 60 rounds on the european tour, he made it in a59 on the european tour, he made it in a 59 strokes, this is the 18th green at villa mora. had that birdie putts for a round of 58, the call close he got, just missed out on that. but he had to tap in for a part of 59 on the final green. that's a round of 12 under ten birdies in there. that was his second round, the 30—year—old has won one tournament in his career and he was a record 161 in the world rankings. but the highest he's been, what a record. 161 in the world rankings. but the highest he's been, what a recordm
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feels great to make history in portugal, it's a great tournament and it's a great night for the european tour and obviously myself to shoot 59 so going out, trying to make the cuts at level par and shooting that is a great day all around. that's a european first, it's been done ten times i think on the american tour. jim furyk, the us ryder cup captain has done it twice. but a very special date for oliver fischer nonetheless. absolutely, he had a smile on his face. the england cricket selectors have named their squad for the tour to sri lanka, do we know who'll be opening the batting? it's all about who opened the batting, we can make a pretty good guess because england arejust entering this post alastair cook era, he's retired after 12 years or so, it can be a very different look about the top of the order for england for their tour of shrank off. two of the three new players called up our openers, let's start
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with a man in form, 28—year—old has scored over 1000 runs for surrey this season. helping them to the cou nty this season. helping them to the county championship title. he's averaged almost 70. perhaps surprise is the first time he has been included in an england test squad. a 16 strong touring party, joe denly, he's 32, played limited overs cricket for england eight years ago, but he has helped tens dayan promotion to the top division, and you could open the batting with burns although pete tim jennings you could see he still in there, he cooks him over the summer, he has been retained. first test call up in the air done who has made the one—day squad for sri lanka. one of three specialist spinners going to try and go. they will play three tests in november. anthonyjoshua has weighed in ahead of his world heavyweight title defence against
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alexander at wembley tomorrow evening. he's almost too stone heavier than the russian. a lot of the pre—fight talk is centred on his doping record, failing to separate tests two years ago, because of boxing but was buried the doping protocols, he's actually avoided an indie band. my job in this issue is to show that a nondrug cheat is a stronger and better fighter, that's what i have to do and that's why i have to fight. but if they were so concerned about drug cheats he would not be in a position to bite me saturday night but obviously the powers that be have let it happen and he seems to be there and they have to deal with that. that should bea have to deal with that. that should be a sell—out at wembley. looking at the weather forecast that think the weather can have a factor there a moral evening. let's hope not. that's all the sport for now. more now on the latest developments around brexit. in a defiant, televised address from downing street, theresa may has directly challenged eu leaders over their proposals for britain's relationship with the brussels once the uk leaves the eu.
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the prime minister said the uk could not make further progress in talks until the eu offered whast she she described as "serious engagement" on two negotiating issues where there is deadlock: trade and the irish border. yesterday i was in salzburg for talks with european leaders. i've always said that these negotiations would be tough, and they were always found the toughest in the finest rate. while both sides want a deal, we have to face up to the fact that despite the progress we have made, there are two big issues where we remain a long way apart. the first is our economic relationship after we have left. here, the eu is still only offering us two options. the first option would involve the uk staying in the european economic area and a customs union with the eu.
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in plain english, this would mean we still have to abide by all the eu rules, uncontrolled immigration for the eu would continue, and we couldn't do trade deals we want with other countries. that would make a mockery of the referendum we had two years ago. the second option would be a basic free agreement for great britain that would introduce checks at the great britain, eu border. but even worse, northern ireland would effectively remain in the customs union and parts of the single market permanently separated economically from the rest of the uk by a border down the irish sea. parliament has already unanimously rejected this idea. creating any form of customs border
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between northern ireland and the rest of the uk, would not respect that northern ireland is an integral part of the united kingdom, in line with the principle of consent as set out clearly in the belfast good friday agreement. it is something i will never agree to. indeed, in myjudgement, it is something no british prime minister would ever agree to. if the eu believe i will, they are making a fundamental mistake. anything which fails to respect the referendum or in two will be a bad deal and i have always said no deal is better than a bad deal. but i've also been clear that the best outcome is for the uk to leave with a deal.
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that is why following months of intensive work and detailed discussions, we proposed a third option for a future economic relationship based on the friction trade in goods. that is the best way to protectjobs here and in the eu and to avoid the hard border between ireland and northern ireland. while respecting the referendum results and the integrity of the united kingdom. yesterday, donald tusk set out proposals would undermine the single market. he didn't explain how in any detail or make any counterproposal. so, we are at an impasse. the second issue is connected to the first. we both agree that the withdrawal agreement needs to include a backstop to ensure that if there's a delay in implementing our new relationship, there still won't be a hard border between ireland and northern ireland. but the eu is proposing to achieve this by effectively keeping northern ireland
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in the customs union. as i've already said, that is unacceptable. we will never agree to it. it would mean breaking up our country. we will set out our alternative that preserves the integrity of the uk. and its will be in line with the commitments we've made back in december, including the commitments that no new beginning to read barriers should be created between northern ireland and the uk, unless the northern ireland executive and smb agree. as i told eu leaders, neither side should demand the unacceptable of the other. we cannot accept anything that threatens the integrity of our union, just as they cannot accept anything that threatens the integrity of theirs. we cannot accept anything that does not respect the results of the referendum. just as they cannot accept
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anything that is not in the interest of their citizens. throughout this process, i have treated the eu with nothing but respect. the uk expects the same. a good relationship at the end of this process depends on it. at this late stage in the negotiations, it is not acceptable to simply reject the other side's proposals without a detailed explanation and counterproposal. so we now need to hear from the eu what the real issues are and what their alternative is so that we can discuss them. until we do, we cannot make progress. in the meantime, we must and will continue the work of preparing ourselves for no deal. in particular, i want to clarify our approach to two issues.
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first, there are over 3 million eu citizens living in the uk who will be understandably worried about what the outcome of yesterdays some it means for their future i want to be clear with you that even in the event of no deal, your rights will be protected. you are ourfriends, our neighbours, our colleagues. we want you to stay. second, i want to reassure the people of northern ireland, that in the event of mobile, we will do everything in our power to prevent a return to a hard border. let me also say this, the referendum was the largest democratic exercise this country has ever undergone. to deny its legitimacy, or frustrated results threatened public trust in our democracy. that is why for over two years,
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i have worked day and night to deliver a deal that sees the uk leave the eu. i have worked to bring people with me, even when that is not always seemed possible. no one wants a good deal more than me, but the eu should be clear, i will not overturn the results of the referendum, nor will i break up the country. we need serious engagement on resolving the two big problems in the negotiations. and we stand ready. earlier i spoke to the shadow brexit secretary, sir keir starmer. he said the prime minister's statement showed her strategy was not working. the country is tearing down the
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barrel of no deal, the levels of anxiety going up around the country day after day and the prime minister i think is appearing to be in denial, i think i don't understand why she has failed to hear the message that the checkers proposal will not be accepted by the eu and frankly it will not be accepted by her on party, that's been rolling use for weeks on end. i'm not sure why this has come as a surprise to her when to be accepted by the eu and frankly, it's not going to be her and frankly, it's not going to be accepted by our own party, that's been rolling news for weeks on end. so i'm not sure why this is, as surprise to her. and simply repeating the mantra that nothing has changed, thatjeopardised the deal which she's proposing is not really very convincing. what she said though is that she feels what she was saying has been rejected without any detailed explanation and without any counterproposals from the eu, the thing they have been short on detail? i think both sides need to be flexible. i certainly think both sides need to be respectful as we go into these final weeks. there are only four weeks till
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the october summit and there's a gap between the parties and that gap has to be bridged because otherwise we're going to end up with no deal. which is going to be catastrophic, the question i suppose is this, how does the prime minister bridge that gap? because, her own party is challenging her over the checkers plan and how on earth does she negotiate from there was mad because the moment she tries to bridge the gap between where she is a gritty eu her own party will challenge her, so the roots of this problem is right here back in the uk with a divided conservative party. there are many people who say that's rather rich coming from what could be described as a divided labour party, reports in papers in the last few days you yourself almost resigned over your split with jeremy corbyn on the issue of brexit. i think we have got to get this in perspective, you have got four weeks to go on the most important negotiations and the second world war and a decades long war on europe in the conservative party. now risks the negotiation. that is a huge divide in the party.
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i'm not pretending the labour party are all united on everything, there's a massive difference between the sorts of things that labour party is concerned with and the imminent challenge of closing the gap with the eu. if we end up with no deal because the tory party is too divided to allow the negotiation to succeed, that is a calamity and so these are different orders of events. susannah streeter is here, in a moment she will be telling us what's hot and what's not in the business news. first a look at the headlines on afternoon live: theresa may demands the eu breaks the impasse in brexit talks, and vows to defend the referendum result. the health service could save hundreds of millions of pounds every year, after two drug firms failed in their legal efforts, to block the use a cheaper treatment for an eye condition. a male model has been given a life sentence at the old bailey for murdering a rival, in a row over a girlfriend.
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here's your business headlines on afternoon live. uk public borrowing has fallen. the ons said borrowing in the financial year to date, excluding banks, was £17.8 billion, which is £7.8 billion less than during the same period in 2017. this was the lowest year—to—date totalfor 16 years. new research published today by eef, the manufacturers organisation, shows that one in six manufacturers say business would become untenable if there is a no—deal brexit. the pound falls today — is this off the back of theresa may's brexit negotiations? yes it had already been on a downward slide againt a basket of currencies following the rejection of the infamous chequers deal by eu leaders at the summit in salzberg. it tumbled further after theresa may's speech today —
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when she called on the eu to come up with alternative proposals. the fear is among investors is that we've edged much closer to a no deal scenario with a very uncertain outcome for the uk economy (read on) on the other hand global shares have hit their highest levels in more than six months? falling trade conflict concerns and improvement in emerging market that's put their profits in dollars but also there does seem to be fewer concerns about the global trade war escalating further, partly because some investors believe ashley china will read its economy with extra money to offset any negative impact on its economy and an impact on the rest of the world economy as well. another story worth watching as well is what's happening with just eats,
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the ftse listed company because its share price has fallen back today and that was following reports that uber is in talks to its rival, let's find out more about the stories. first of all, let's talk about starting heading for its biggest one—day loss this year. a real change from the optimism we saw earlier in the week. , we have seen starting being a lot weaker today and of course that comes after the summit and of course the speech we have just heard. what we know as investors if that how europe deals with internal negotiations as it will do with the brexit negotiation is that it will leave it to the last moment and to many, it's not such a big surprise that the eu has not responded to theresa may but general uncertainty has risen and that means sterling has sold off. as you have
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mentioned, that has worked in person before uk shares as multinational companies that book their profits in foreign currencies have gone up. this has been driven also by the mining companies for example that have been going up a lot today given the others story that you mentioned was china. china really looking to stimulate its economy in the face of the street wars which allows them to conduct a much more infrastructure spending which has it in mind for some of this mining input such as steel and iron ore those big mining companies in the uk to produce. it's not really that these trade concerns have gone away completely, it's more the impact of them what will happen in china's economy as a result because certainly with the trade deals being signed to mexico and also to continuing with canada, perhaps china is looking more isolated. these trade wars or these
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trade tensions are going to last for a long time. you can call it the new cold war between the us and china whether it's cold war between the us and china whether its technology, with its trade across many different aspects, we think that these two economies are growing to but heads for a long time to come. when we look at the nasa deal where the us is trained to make a deal with mexico and not canada, again the us we can see is trying to get the best for its workers and trying to make sure that the deal is better for itself rather than look that the whole degenerates prosperous for everyone. a bit closer to home, let's talk about this it seems as though uber is on all march to dominate this market, it already has uber eats and now it has its sights on delivering. we know uber had a big cash infusion by one of its new investors which has askedit one of its new investors which has asked it to go out and expand and
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this uk home—grown company which has now become a very international business is becoming something that uber can see as an addition to its business, its shares fell about 5% today in response because this would bea today in response because this would be a consolidated competitor for it and then therefore hitting on its revenues. thank you very much for giving us that updates on the financial markets. shaniel ramjee, senior investment manager, pictet asset management. you can see the pound really has fallen following the events that we have seen after that eu summit. try to be uplifted by the green at the top. thank you very much. thousands of artifacts salvaged from the wreck of the titanic are to be auctioned.
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british museums are raising money to help keep them in public hands. more than 5 thousands artefacts will go under the hammer after the company that owns them went bankrupt — but there's also huge interest in the items from hedge funds in the us. a short while ago, i talked to the director of the royal museums greenwich dr kevin fewster and asked him where they have been sitting all this time? bishopric found in 1985 by bob ballard , bishopric found in 1985 by bob ballard, a very famous oceanographer, he wanted to leave everything where it was and so he did not write anything which meant that because the ship rise in international waters, nor mahlo salvage laws opera —— applies so two yea rs later salvage laws opera —— applies so two years later and american groups at himself up with the intention of raising material from the debris fields around where the ship went down. so, over the fields around where the ship went down. so, overthe next fields around where the ship went down. so, over the next ten, 12 yea rs, down. so, over the next ten, 12 years, they raised five and a half thousand objects, everything from bits of the ship itself which broke
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away when the ship broke into, to the fittings and fixtures from the ship and personal items as well including fascinating things like suitcases were you have someone's entire possessions and what they had packed for such a trip probably for a new life. and then have been kept on the ocean and then preserve in the ocean floor because they've been ina the ocean floor because they've been in a case. so the collection has beenin in a case. so the collection has been in the hands of a company called in —— titanic incorporated hook got bought out several times and it's now owned by a larger company called premier exhibitions and they went bankrupt in 2016. this is not being sold off, and the earth a lot of interest as to who might pay for it and of course, from your point of view a natural home for these things is in museums. yes, the moment they are owned by a commercial company, to what has happened now could happen again. if there are sold one of the commercial company, they have the same financial problems or just company, they have the same financial problems orjust decide to try and make a quick, and equally
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though, there are, tickle collections like this should be together for researchers and the public and for future generations. there is a real risk that this collection could be sold off piecemeal individual objects sold off and once that happens of course, it would be impossible to bring a collection back together and bring it and keep it into that whole mess of one collection whereas if it comes to us as britain's national maritime museum, working in conduction with colleagues in northern ireland and belfast, we would bring it into the national collection and it would preserve for every more intact as a collection for us and our children and our generations. the indie rock band wolf alice, is the winner of this year's prestigious mercury prize. their second album, ‘visions of a life', beat more established acts like noel gallagher, the arctic monkeys and lily allen, who appears not to have been very happy about losing out. colin paterson has more. wolf alice. cheering. indie band wolf alice, winners of the mercury prize for their second album, ‘visions of a life'. the judges said it combined the epic
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and intimate in equal measure. they were visibly shocked by the result. thank you so much! cheering. # she's beautifully unconventional # she seems to be # from the best place in the world #. this was the second time they had made the mercury shortlist, but theirfirst win. in fact, no female—fronted act had triumphed since pj harvey seven years ago. immediately after they came off stage, they told me why it meant so much to them. i think i have always found being a musician, being a performer, the whole music industry, extremely intimidating and i've been scared about it and not known what i was doing. but here we are, four best friends and we still don't know what we're doing. but we're here. you know... it means everything. i don't know. i don't know the answer to that question. i'm just so happy!
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that wasn't the case with everyone. lily allen was seen on camera in tears and later took to social media to say "someone call 999, i've been robbed". as for wolf alice, they can expect a big post—mercury sales boost, with visions of a life set to shoot back up the charts. that's it from your afternoon live team for today, next the bbc news at 5. time for a look at the weather. here's louise lear. good afternoon, today has been more straightforward, a breezy day, sunny stalled and scattered showers for most. the wind direction has changed from the northwesterly and is a cooler fuel for all, from the northwesterly and is a coolerfuel for all, 11 to from the northwesterly and is a cooler fuel for all, 11 to 18 degrees at the very best. as he moved to the night tonight we see this ridge of high pressure building, pointing things down, jenny night to come before we see more wet weather pushing into the
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southwest. so it means a cool start but as anyone for crowd gathers as this rain arrives from the southwest, some of it quite persistent into south wales. i really will make it feel quite cool across southern areas. 13 to 15 degrees. more sunshine further north, 11 to 13 degrees as the high here as well. more wet and windy weather to come on sunday for england and wales, the best of the dry weather will be open to the far northwest but as the rain clears the wind will become more and guilt are likely as well. keep watching the forecast for further details on sunday's weather. take care. today at five, after being snubbed by eu leaders over her brexit plans, theresa may delivers a terse response. in an unusual televised address, a defiant prime minister says the eu must treat the uk with respect and she won't overturn the result of the referendum. yesterday, donald tusk said our
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proposals would undermine the single market. he didn't explain how in any detail or make any counterproposal. so, we are and a pass. the negotiation strategy is collapsing around herand negotiation strategy is collapsing around her and that is why we are in this impasse. and now the country is staring down the barrels of no deal. the levels of anxiety are going up around country day after day. we'll have the latest reaction to the prime minister's statement
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