it up, john iii u; v ilsa "m (def wan" headline sums it up, john mcdonnell the shadow chancellor earlier this morning said we are unlikely to rerun the referendum of 2016 and if we have people's vote it will be only about the nature of the deal, and the option of remaining in the eu would not be on the table, but a few hours later, his brexit secretary, seems to contradict him, saying we were not ruling out options and nobody is ruling out the main, so there does seem to be some disjunction between those two pieces. chuka umunna says trying to sell at people's vote without i remain option would be like selling a car without a reverse gear —— without a remain option. but it would be idiotic, there is such clamourfor a second would be idiotic, there is such clamour for a second referendum that is not to give people the remain option would seem perverse. 60 million people voted to remain in the last referendum so not to give them another chance to address that would be perverse ——. them another chance to address that

would be perverse --. mixed messages here within their own party and if they can't get the message right through, i will be supposed to get elected to understand —— the electorate? you've elected to understand —— the electorate ? you've got elected to understand —— the electorate? you've got to have consistent messages but this is a co nfe re nce consistent messages but this is a conference where one is saying one thing and another is saying another. john mcdonnell has been asked this evening and he has clarified that remain could be an option on the table but all options are open. remain is on the table. interestingly made that point that it is his divisions that have hampered effort about brexit by the conservatives. because labour are equally in a muddle, nobody has made political headway. you need to be careful what you demand could you might not be able to deliver which is the ultimate we're having now

with theresa may and this isn't an easyjob to do, but we haven't got an opposition party that knows what it wants to do because there were members are indecisive —— their own members are indecisive —— their own members are indecisive —— their own members are indecisive. if you look at the whole political picture, it seems to me that this is a pretty terrible government and it is in disarray and jeremy corbyn has a massive open goal with brexit and he has run up to kick the ball and has hinted he missed the ball and followed on his face. he's as bad as she is, he's in a complete mess, his party is split down the middle and both of them seem to be in chaos. helen, tucked away at the top of the briefing column in the financial times is more information coming out about the possibility of a no—deal brexit. we have seen this release by government departments as a contingency plan and this is to do with what might happen with flights

and travel for all of us if there is no deal. we don't know what he's going to do but it might affect flights, it might affect animals abroad. the pet passports. never made a human passport, we have trouble with pet passports! . some of this feels like scaremongering. let'sjust see what of this feels like scaremongering. let's just see what we're going to deal with. let's see what theresa may comes up with because the matter what, it is always a cost to us but if it is affecting our four—legged friends, i'm worried about two legged friends. this is in small print and we've got to be careful about what this small print means to individuals are two companies, because it is important and we need to be able to travel, not just to go on holiday, but businesses have to travel, so we have to be careful what we do as we got to look at the finer print to ensure people understand that. the government has

been attempting to drip out these different departmental guides so we get a sense of what might happen. but to me it seems utterly terrifying. this doomsday scenario that we're getting, dover will be a car park for six months. this is the one that will really terrified people today, we add a nation of absolute animal lovers. if you are saying it will take four months to get your pet into europe, that to be a disaster for both tory and labour voters, a disaster for both tory and labour voters , eve ryo ne a disaster for both tory and labour voters, everyone loves animals in this country. theresa may is meeting donald trump, how much worse can things get? it is cats, dogs and ferrets on animal passports. i didn't know people were travelling with ferrets! takers to the daily telegraph because a lot these lines coming out on the labour party conference in liverpool, the daily telegraph leading on reports that

following john mcdonnell, the shadow chancellor's announcement about how he might change businesses and talk about renationalisation, we got the rebuttal essentially from people like the confederation of british industry saying that lives in the chilly economic future. industry saying that lives in the chilly economic futurelj industry saying that lives in the chilly economic future. i think we need to really listen to this because it is going back to archaic times. it is as relevant today as it was 100 years ago and the message for young people is, was 100 years ago and the message foryoung people is, it was 100 years ago and the message for young people is, it is using the wealth as a tool to doom and gloom. actually, we should be more creative, we should be a spy ring people —— we should be inspiring people —— we should be inspiring people and we are creating an enemy that a lot of the younger generation don't understand about taxes and these are eloquent people, they know their businesses, and we've also got to understand where taxes go to create the country we've got, police, health service and taxpayers money, that line has become such a

horrible, acidic word to people and everybody is scared of it when actually we should look at it like a good thing because we have a country that has a lot of things going for it. we don't want to be like greece we re it. we don't want to be like greece were nobody pays anything so these are very good individuals and why are very good individuals and why are they the enemy? john mcdonnell makes a point that it is about giving workers are sharing their company and a sense of investment, both little government literal and metaphorical. i absolutely agree with helen that the message she is sending out, he is vilifying business and turning it into the enemy —— he is sending out. renationalising the water companies, that would cost £150 billion, and the railways, that would put the economy in a deep freeze. if businesses are failing, we would have tax revenues to run the health

services and police and schools, they will all suffer. i don't live anyone has told john mcdonnell but the soviet union failed. this form of gross soviet approach to the economy does not work. we will move the metro. biggest tragedy ever in the metro. biggest tragedy ever in the nhs, the blood donation inquiry launched today. when you read about this, lights have been lost, over 7500 people have lost their lives. many pearly people even today there may be criminal cases at the end of this. i absolutely concur

with helen, it is right that this is a huge headline. the biggest tragedy everin a huge headline. the biggest tragedy ever in the nhs. it is truly shocking. even since the inquiry was announced last july, shocking. even since the inquiry was announced lastjuly, 100 victims have died, people are dying all the time and it is being passed down the generations, it's an absolute scandal and it's great that it is happening now but should it have happened a few years ago? many families say, my father or mother died before they could getjustice. the daily mail is all about scammers, we're always hearing about scams, this is our bank scam. this is one of the negative sides of the internet world in which we live. it's very easy to con people if you cannot see them face—to—face, they send you begging letters, about

investing in a new business and ask you to transfer money, £1 million a day is being lost in bank scams and banks say, you authorise the transfer, we cannot refund you, but if you add a victim of that, it may be worse than reported because people feel ashamed and stupid, understandably, if they have fallen for it. it is very sad, there is pride and emotion, and it is a scam for the elderly, police and trading supermarkets to ask questions because there are a lot of people that need help and banks need to be more supportive. the banks are making a point on this scam that if it is all about people authorising over the phone and saying yes, you can transfer this money because they have been conned, but because they have been conned, but because they have been conned, but because they have been given —— because they have given permission, the banks are saying, your problem. by personally

sometimes i go to the shops and make sometimes i go to the shops and make some accounts things and they phoned me and stop my car because of fraud scams so me and stop my car because of fraud scams so why aren't you doing that with huge amounts here?|j scams so why aren't you doing that with huge amounts here? i really use this phrase, but i agree with the daily mail, banks blame victims, and that seems to be what they do to make it the victim's fault but they have been unfortunate but to doubly punished them by their not refunding them seems very cruel. authorise it seems to be the grey area. the guardian, lovely picture, the doctor who cast members. we two weeks away from jodie whitaker's lodge is the first female doctor. i'm excited. bradley was, he's not on the chase any more. some of the chasers are

scarier than the daleks! there are going to be no monsters that we have seen going to be no monsters that we have seen before, including daleks. all new monsters. we have had 30 middle—aged white men as the doctors before, the bbc‘s logan has been, it's about time a double entendre on what the doctor does, he or she travels through time so it is about time we had a female doctor. 7th of 0ctober, that's when it starts. that's it from us this hour, but we'll be back with james and helen at 11:30pm. you can see the front pages of the papers online on the bbc news website. if you missed the programme, you can watch it later on

bbc i player. we started the week with a chill in the air, particularly at night, another cold night for many of us tonight. the further north you are, not quite as cold as last night and a satellite picture shows you part of the reason why, this extra cloud now streaming its way across parts of northern ireland and scotland,, we will see some rain here but also strengthening wind, cloud and wind are the kind of weather ingredients that mean temperatures will hold up a little bit better whereas further south, under clear, starry skies, it will chilly again, these pale rain colours, even blue shades on our temperature chart, temperatures of three, four, five celsius in the countryside, some sportster to

freezing or below. southern and eastern areas getting down to a chilly start tomorrow but the bright side, further north and west, extra cloud streaming in outbreaks of rain, especially for west of scotla nd rain, especially for west of scotland and an increasingly strong wind whereas further south after the cool start, temperatures will recover nicely, 17 in plymouth and cardiff and lots of sunshine. a bit more of a wind across north wales. we do see black arrows, wind gusts as expected and in scotland, we could see gusts of 50, 60, 65 mph. with that, outbreaks of heavy rain across the western side of scotland, east of scotland getting away with a bit of shower and sunshine. a wet weather piling into west of scotland get stranded in this westerly wind as we go into wednesday so again we will see some persistent rain across the hills and mountains of western scotland, eastern scotland getting away with brightness, northern ireland and england getting away, it

will be breezy but another chilly start, another grey day but those temperatures a little bit higher, 20 celsius in london, up to 20 in aberdeen as well so as we move into thursday, the rain becomes confined to the far north of scotland but behind that, we have cooler air to the out of it, thursday is going to be the warmest day of the week. temperatures could rise to around 23 celsius but it won't last. the cooler air will then pushed outwards for all of us on friday. this is bbc news.

i'm rachel schofield. the headlines at 11: a public inquiry begins into the contaminated blood scandal, which is estimated to have killed nearly 3,000 people since the 1970s. labour has come under increasing pressure today —— theresa may is to meet president trump in new york on wednesday. they are expected to discuss brexit and a bilateral trade deals. —— trade deal. labour has come under increasing pressure today to clarify its position on a possible new referendum on brexit. what a no—deal brexit could mean for flights to europe, now the government outlines its contingency travel plans. the father of a teenage girl who died after a severe allergic reaction tells an inquest how she pleaded for help before losing consciousness. also coming up, the pioneering radiotherapy machine that might transform treatment for cancer patients.