hello it's monday, it's 9 o'clock, i'm joanna gosling, welcome to the programme. natasha was just 15 years old when she died, after an allergic reaction to a sandwich that contained sesame. the coroner said the labelling was inadequate. her parents have said that food labelling laws played russian roulette with their daughter's life. we'll be speaking to them live in a few minutes‘ time. the indonesian government has called for international help to get food and aid to people on the island of sulawesi, in the aftermath of a devastating earthquake and tsunami. translation: what we need is more medical help. we can't do operations because we have no power. we don't have a generator so we because we have no power. we don't have a generator so we are very have a generator so we are very limited have a generator so we are very limited in what we can do. we be hearing from aid agencies trying to get to the worst affected areas. and can the conservatives use their party conference to unify around a plan for brexit? one former cabinet minister, justine greening, tells us some serving ministers now accept that there does need to be another referendum on the deal. i think there are ministers

and other backbenchers who recognise that this is quite possibly where we will end up. we'll ask a treasury minister if she agrees. hello. welcome to the programme. we're live until iiam. do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about. do you think food labelling laws need an overhaul? we'll also be talking about a new plan to force restaurants to hand over all tips to waiting staff. get in touch and let us know what you think. use the hashtag victoria live. if you re emailing and are happy for us to contact you, and maybe want to take part in the programme, please include your phone number in your message. if you text, you ll be charged at the standard network rate. our top story today. business and brexit are set to dominate the agenda on the second day of the conservative party conference in birmingham.

the chancellor philip hammond will use his speech at the conference to mount a defence of business, which he'll tell delegates is a force for good. the cbi has said a change of tone would be "enormously welcome". but a major tory donor has accused theresa may of personally failing to champion the business community. our assistant political editor norman smith is at the conference. over to you, brexit is clearly going to dominate again. brexit always dominates but today, the chancellor will try and take a slight twist away from that to reassure the business community, whose relations with the tory party have been profoundly bruised and strained by brexit. mr hammond will go out of his way to say that capitalism can bea his way to say that capitalism can be a force for good in society, that enterprise can drive up pay and wages and he will set out the case

for so—called 21st—century capitalism. in part, that is an attempt to rip off some of the jeremy corbyn narrative which we heard last week about how capitalism amounted to greed is good. but in pa rt amounted to greed is good. but in part two, it is an attempt to just try to salvage relations with the business community. it is telling, really, that mr hammond is having to make this kind of speech because you would normally think that being pro—business was just part and parcel of being a tory. of course, mr hammond will also touch on brexit, this morning stressing that he believed mrs may would be able to secure a brexit deal. the mood is undoubtedly that people want to do a deal with the uk, people want to minimise the disruption of the uk's departure from the european union, they want to continue to have a good relationship with us and smooth trading partnership in the future, and that is the message we hear pretty much universally from across the 27 member states. elsewhere, the backlash against

borisjohnson continues elsewhere, the backlash against boris johnson continues apace, elsewhere, the backlash against borisjohnson continues apace, with mr hammond this morning saying he is fine at the big picture stuff but what you need when it comes to brexit is meticulous attention to detail. we have heard a number of voices hitting back at borisjohnson over the past 2a hours or so. we had ruth davidson, the old sparring partner of borisjohnson, saying he likes to talk about his time as mayor of london but not so keen to talk about his time as foreign secretary when you was actually involved in brexit and even some of his close colleagues like david davis, saying he is good at the headlines but not so good at policy. this of course before borisjohnson even arrives at conference. what will be interesting is to see the sort of reception he gets and then the sort of reception theresa may and other senior ministers get because i bet you borisjohnson may well get enthusiast it reception ——

a more enthusiastic reception from delegates than some of the other names. thanks, norman. annita mcveigh is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the day's news. good morning. indonesia has called for international help to deal with the aftermath of an earthquake and a tsunami. the quake struck the island of sulawesi three days ago, and now officials are scrambling to get food, aid and equipment to the affected area. more than 840 people are known to have died, but there are fears that number could rise further. our correspondent jenny kumah reports. the brutal force of nature. with hundreds dead, mass burials are due to begin to stop the spread of disease. meanwhile, the authorities struggle to dig out the living. dozens of people are thought to be under the rubble of this hotel in the city of palu. it's a race against the clock to respond to the shouts for help. in this case, it came too late. translation: looking at the conditions there, there are still bodies unidentified

as well as victims buried under rubble. there are also remote areas yet to be reached by the search and rescue teams. the powerful earthquake struck on friday, crumbling this shopping centre and destroying this road bridge. it also triggered a tsunami, waves ten feet high captured by this mobile phone. there was a warning but there wasn't long enough to get to higher ground before the flooding swept in. the government has promised to speed up aid but for some, it's not coming fast enough, with desperate residents taking matters into their own hands. translation: we need to eat. we don't have any other choice, we must get food. translatiom: we are in a crisis, we have nothing for our basic needs. food, water — we desperately need them. with homes destroyed, survivors take shelter in tents until they can rebuild their lives.

jenny kumah, bbc news. restaurants are to be forced to hand over all tips to their staff. the prime minister wants to introduce new laws to stop employers making deductions from money left by customers. in recent years, some restaurants have come under fire from unions for deducting up to 10% of tips in administration fees. two british women have been killed after they were hit by a car as they got off a tour bus in oman. they were on an organised trip to a traditional market in the city of salalah. another british man remains in a stable condition in hospital. theirfamilies have been informed. six prison officers have been injured after violence broke out at a high securityjail in worcestershire. three members of staff at long lartin prison sustained head injuries and one has a broken arm. the incident started on sunday morning after officers searched a wing of the jail. it took seven hours to regain control. ford has offered to refund thousands of pounds to customers whose engines have failed,

following a bbc investigation. hundreds of customers have said their cars with ford ecoboost engines have overheated, causing engine failure. many drivers of one—litre cars had been told they had to pay for repairs themselves, but ford has now said it will cover the cost. others have reported their cars with bigger engines have burst into flames while they were driving. the price of gas and electricity is set to rise for millions of customers today as british gas increases its standard variable tariff. the increase of 3.8% will affect 3.5 million customers. ofgem's safeguard tariff will rise by £47 per household. it says it is a result of higher wholesale gas and electricity costs. a referendum in macedonia on changing the country's name has failed to get a high enough turnout to be valid. adding the word "north" to the name would have ended a 30—year row with greece, which has its own province

called macedonia. the dispute has blocked the former yugoslav republic from joining both the european union and nato. the us and canada have reportedly reached a deal to reform the north american free trade agreement after last—minute negotiations. the deal, which governs nearly £800 billion in trade between the two countries and mexico, is said to involve more us access to canada's dairy market and a cap on canada's car exports to america. sharon osborne has pulled out of this year's x factor. the formerjudge was due to return for the live shows of the itv talent show, but has decided she is not needed. in a statement, the 65—year—old wished the programme continued success, but said she would "feel odd" coming in at this point. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. more at 9.30. let's get some sport and join holly hamilton at the bbc sport centre. europe celebrating after the ryder

cup. yes, morning, joanna, what a weekend it's been, the ryder cup backin weekend it's been, the ryder cup back in european hands once more but ultimately i think this sentiment of your‘s victory has been about this, teamwork. led by thomas bjorn, of course, this group of golfers just clicked. from those partnerships that we saw formed during the four balls and foursomes on friday and saturday, to that moment when we saw francesco molinari beating phil mickelson to get europe to the all—important14.5 points mickelson to get europe to the all—important 14.5 points winning mark. all—important14.5 points winning mark. it all seemed to come together. there were some standout individual performances and achievements as well. molinari became the first european in history to claim all five points across the three days. tommy fleetwood, you can see him celebrate there, it was molinari and fleetwood's pairing that was the talk of the weekend, a bit of a bromance blossoming on and off the course. the italian admitted

that he would like to spend some more time with his friend. you know, we have done great with tommy. tommy has been amazing. i love him, like i said the other day! we need to spend more time together, i think. i feel so far. we need to spend more time together, ithink. ifeel so far. i know! we're to —— are going to be a lot more of those two, they've already been dubbed moliwood which i love. what about the social media reaction? as you can imagine, there's been an outpouring ofjoy on instagram and twitter. let's look at a few, starting with tyrrell hatton. he said being part of a winning ryder cup team is a dream come true and used a lot of emojis. ian poulter, this one could make your emotional, he tweeted about a author himself with son luke and set as a parent, the moments you get to spend with one another are sometimes hear

and far between but when moments like this, round, he was not letting his boy down and luke lived every shot with them during the week. that's a bit emotional! finally, something tells me captain thomas bjorn may have had a rather good night, tweeting this at about 7:30am, saying, "when you need to go to bed but you don't want to let go!"| to bed but you don't want to let go!" i don't think he has quite let go!" i don't think he has quite let go of the winning momentjust yet. and some other quite spectacular celebration pictures? that's right, this will probably be one of the image is —— images of this year's ryder cup, they say the postman a lwa ys ryder cup, they say the postman always delivers, the nickname ian poulter has been given over the yea rs poulter has been given over the years because, well, when it matters, he tends to deliver the results and he did this weekend, being involved in one of the most dramatic of yesterday's singles matches, beating dustinjohnson, two up. of course, he donned a postbox

outfits during the celebrations! one of the fan is handed it to him just after the winning moment, and he was caught up in the celebrations. but he told reporters he might go and deliver some letters wearing it when you get home to florida. i think that would really depend on whether the outfits made it through the night or not. i'm not sure about that. i'm sure we will see some photos of the celebrations overnight with him still wearing a postbox! but everybody delivered, what a weekend and what a win for team europe. thank you, holly. on friday, the inquest into the death of 15—year—old natasha ednan—laperouse — who died after eating a sandwich containing sesame seed — found that the label on its packaging was inadequate. natasha died injuly 2016 after suffering a cardiac arrest during a flight. she suffered an allergic reaction to the pret a manger baguette containing sesame which she'd bought at heathrow airport. natasha had checked the packaging before buying the sandwich, and the ingredient wasn't listed.

the coroner dr sean cummings said he will be reporting to the government whether the food labelling rules for chains like pret a manger need to change. natasha's parents have said that the food labelling laws "played russian roulette with natasha's life". and we can speak now to natasha's parents, tanya and nadim. thank you forjoining us. absolutely everybody‘s hearts went out to you, as we saw the detail and heard the details through the inquest which must have been awful, obviously, for you both to have to sit through, two yea rs you both to have to sit through, two years after the death of your daughter. how did you feel going through the process and having to hear the evidence that was being put forward ? hear the evidence that was being put forward? i think for me, and for our whole family, my wife tanya and our son, alex, was there as well, throughout the inquest, it was

sincerely traumatic, actually, to go through and hear every detail uncovered of the matter is proceeding her death, during her death and after her death, and hearing evidence that came to light that we were completely unaware of. it was really quite shocking. two years on, to hear evidence that you have still not heard, how did you have still not heard, how did you feel? every day was a complete shock, every day brought something new hope that we didn't even know about and it was the worst, worst time, it was terrible. it is two years since we have lost natasha and it felt like it was happening every day all over again. at the inquest, the coroner spoke about that summer and said natasha had a number of trips planned. this

was just one of them. she was very excited. tel us, both of you, how she was, what the hopes were for the summer, what she was like. she had this four—day trip planned, it was a real treat for her and her best friend to go to nice for four days. it was the first time we had not gone away as a family but she was doing something more grown—up, almost a long weekend with her best friend, and she was so excited, the girls had been planning what they we re girls had been planning what they were going to do, they had an itinerary, they knew everything. it was a plan that had been going for six months with intricate planning. and when she got back, she was going to go toa and when she got back, she was going to go to a festival for a week, that was planned, that she had been to before, she was looking forward to that. and after that, we were going to go to greece for two weeks as a

family. it was a really exciting summer family. it was a really exciting summer but didn't really even get started because the first sunday of the summer holidays was the day that she took the trip. that was to nice with her father and bethany. it was nadim, you took the girls. when did you first realise something was happening and was causing natasha difficulties? we bought a sandwich in the pret a manger terminalfive we bought a sandwich in the pret a manger terminal five heathrow outlet and we sat in the seating area there and we sat in the seating area there and quickly ate the sandwich and i ate some food myself, as did her best friend. and ashes to the —— and then she felt itchy in her throat and she took some regard, and under his pity —— antihistamine and that was fine. we proceeded to board the plane which was close by to the

actual restaurant. we boarded the plane and some 35 minutes later into the flight, the tasha became severely unwell and what ensued was really quite shocking. did it occur to any of you at the start to think it might be sesame? she had checked the packaging and there was nothing to indicate there was any sesame and what she was eating. absolutely, she was very vigilant, asi absolutely, she was very vigilant, as i think anyone who has severe allergies would be. she had good eyesight as well, being young and she chose the sandwich which contained olives and artichokes. two of her most favourite foods that she would eat at home regularly. she chose that sandwich, she showed it to bethany, her best friend, and said, look, this sam is fine for me, it is good. i looked at it myself and it was fine. there was no

information on it whatsoever to say it contained a deadly poison for her, sesame seeds. we bought the sandwich in good faith and then she ate it. and you said on the plane, when it became clear that the allergy was starting to take hold, it must have been horrendous. describe what happened. it was really quite shocking. i had never seen it was really quite shocking. i had never seen anything like that before. her mixed—race, she lifted up before. her mixed—race, she lifted up her shirt, and what she had seen in the bathroom, she was totally covered in what looked like very large jellyfish stings, covered in what looked like very largejellyfish stings, big red rash they all over her body, not visible on the face, but on her torso. i knew something was really bad in that moment on something terrible was happening, she was having a serious allergic reaction. we had no

idea what it was from, really no idea what it was from, really no idea at all. so how did you react immediately? so how did you react immediately? so the first thought was stunned, i try to stay calm and i i stopped one of the cabin crew going along the island said my daughter was having an anaphylactic reaction, the tasha said she needed the injection, and eppy pen said she needed the injection, and eppy pen injection. can you do it now? i stopped the cabin crew and told them and we proceeded immediately to the toilets at the front of the aeroplane where within seconds i injected her into her thigh with the adrenaline auto injector pen. unfortunately, to my supplies, great surprise, that didn't appear to make any difference at all and natasha started to fade away in front of me within minutes. she said, daddy, please get the

second pen. inject me with that. i ran to the plane where we were seated, grabbed the second epipen, because she always carried two. i ran back, a matter of seconds, and injected her with the second pen. at this point, i would have never done this point, i would have never done this before, i would have never administered at pen, but i knew what to do and did it very calmly, really checking i was doing it really well following the instructions i have learned. unbelievably, she did not get back at all —— should not get a better at all and collapsed in the toilers feedback toilets. i called the attendant, as crew who were just outside and we moved herfrom the attendant, as crew who were just outside and we moved her from the toilets to the plane jump seat which is another word for where the steward would sit at take—off. i

told him to get the oxygen tank immediately, which he did, and we put a face mask on and sasha. she was slumped and losing consciousness and falling over in the seat. we put the face mask on her and turned up the face mask on her and turned up the oxygen tank to full blast. you had the help of a junior doctor who happened to be on the plane. yes, i told the cabin crew immediately, i said, yes, i told the cabin crew immediately, isaid, col fora doctor, seve there is a doctor. tha nkfully doctor, seve there is a doctor. thankfully within a minute, a junior doctor appeared from nowhere and i briefed him on what had happened and things frankly got much worse very rapidly from then on. it was quite a

catastrophic and visually dramatic situation. how long after that was a bad until you landed ? how long after that was a bad until you landed? because you obviously did everything that you could do but you were stuck on a plane in midair. being stuck in the plane, and at a nightmare with no access to any equipment or any proper facilities, medicalfacilities. it was equipment or any proper facilities, medical facilities. it was like a war zone, really, is medical facilities. it was like a warzone, really, is how medical facilities. it was like a war zone, really, is how! medical facilities. it was like a war zone, really, is how i would describe it, a battlefield situation. this was around 40 minutes, so natasha fell ill and i injected her with the first adrenaline pen around 45 or so minutes before landing on the plane. what happened when you landed? was there every team they're ready to ta ke there every team they're ready to take you straight off to the hospital? yes, when the plane eventually landed, and it seems like an eternity giving the unfolding

severity of the situation, there was a french paramedic waiting at the gate and as soon as the door opened, five paramedics walked straight in and surrounded natasha. because i speak french, i briefed them in french on what had happened and they proceeded to do, undertake resuscitation and try to help natasha, who was completely unconscious already for quite some time. so when was the last moment you were able to actually have any communication with the natasha? the last moment was in the toilet of the plane when she said, please, please get the second pen, i can't breathe, i can't breathe, help me. those were her final words. ta nya, those were her final words. tanya, you were act in england. when was the first he knew of what was

happening? —— you knew of what was happening? i had happening? ihada happening? i had a phone call about half past nine, the plane was about to land and nadim called me to tell me that natasha was seriously ill and i had to get a plane out as soon as i could. and i didn't... isaid, are you sure? how can she be so ill? are you sure? how can she be so ill? are you sure? how can she be so ill? are you sure she is not going to be ok? he was so sure it was so severe and he kept insisting something has happened, she has had an anaphylactic reaction. i immediately started looking at flights. it was ha rd started looking at flights. it was hard because it was the first day of the summer holidays and i managed to find one flight from stansted going that evening at six o'clock. so i got up to stansted airport. when i

arrived, i was told that i didn't have a seat after all, that i was too late, at which point i burst into tears and said, told the lady i had to get on that fight because my daughter was really ill. she went away, said i was on the flight, it is ok. i waited at the gate and we we re is ok. i waited at the gate and we were told there was a six hour delay. the plane actually left at midnight rather than at six o'clock as was originally scheduled. and venue had to take a call from now deem while you are in the airport is telling you that you were not going to make it in time. yes. so, he called me and said, she is going to go completely in the next minute, maybe two. you have to say goodbye to her right now, right now, quickly. iam putting the say goodbye to her right now, right now, quickly. i am putting the phone by her ears so she can hear you. if

she can hear you, she will hear you. that is when i said goodbye to her. asi that is when i said goodbye to her. as i finished, hejust said thank you, hope up to then call up and speak to her brother who would also getan speak to her brother who would also get an opportunity to say goodbye to her. i actually phoned my parents, natasha's grandparents from my side of the family and tanya's, and our son who was 13 at the time was just being looked after by a grandmother, and all of them in quick succession had a chance to say goodbye and just about if you minutes before her heart completely stopped and she flat lined. unimaginable that you all had to go

through that. tanya, you then went out to nice and you were together and had to deal with what had happened to your daughter. how did you cope in those hours and days after that? we we re after that? we were in awe to shock, absolute shock. the city had closed down itself because of the killings there had been, a terrorist attack three days before where someone had driven into the promenade and there was a lot of grief in the city already, it was hard to even get to the mortuary to see natasha the next day. we were in complete and utter shock, we did not know at that point how on earth this could have happened. nadim called his mother to go into a pret a mangerto called his mother to go into a pret a manger to buy the exact same beget

that natasha had eaten, kenya that is all she had had that morning, which she did, so that gave us some indication of what had happened, but it was such a big thing. we had to get her back, bring her body back and there is so much bureaucracy, red tape, it is a lengthy process, but we managed because he speaks french. we managed to get her back within the week. it was only after we we re within the week. it was only after we were back that we could start finding out more about what had happened. how was it that you found out eventually then that there had been sesame in that beget? —— beget? what happened, as she was dying in a hospital on that sunday, i spoke to my mother back in london and i said please go and buy the same sandwich from your local pret a manger right

now and call me back. and go and check if our art allergens in the sandwich, speak to them. she did and she called me back and she told me, before natasha as she was dying, she went to the local sandwich shop, pret a manger, bought the same sandwich, there was no allergy warnings in sight at all, but she went to the counter and asked the staff where you pay. she said, is there any thing in this much to be concerned about? my granddaughter has allergies. the staff then went back to somewhere in the back room and handed my mother a folder, the typicalfolder and handed my mother a folder, the typical folder you would find in any office. and said, there is some information in there. my mother then looked through it through lots of information, and there was one sheet

there of paper, like an excel spreadsheet, listing most of the sandwiches and on one side, and if you carefully run your finger across in very small writing, it highlighted the allergens in each sandwich and my mother noticed that immediately sesame seeds were highlighted as allergen in the sandwich. and my mother was stunned, she recounted, she said to the staff, where are the sesame seeds? they are not visible to the naked eye. she was told by the staff that they are it baked into the dough. my mother screamed and she said, you have murdered my grandchild. and thatis have murdered my grandchild. and that is how she recounted that story to me on the phone. that was as natasha was dying in hospital. and then we realised, i knew completely that that is why she had died, she had had a full allergic reaction to a very, very powerful allergen that

is like a poison to the body for those that are allergic to sesame. unwittingly, she had eaten a huge dose, hugh hundreds of says miss seeds that were baked into the dough, and that is why she died. pret have said, "we are deeply sorry for natasha's death and cannot comment and the pain herfamily have gone through and agreed they continue to feel. we have heard everything that the coroner and natasha's family have said this week and we are committed to leading the changes across the industry. maul has always operated in accordance to uk laws related to food labelling but clearly these laws are inadequate for severe allergy sufferers. the coroner was critical of the laws, has written to the government, to the food standards agency and also pret. what do you think about the laws and what needs

to happen? do you want to answer that? yeah, those laws absolutely have to change. society as a whole has to take it much more seriously and it starts with the law stating that if anything is pre—packaged, it has to have a list of one of... there are 14 allergens, only 14 allergens that are listed by the food standards agency and they have to be easily, easily seen by anybody buying anything that is pre—packaged and that means a sticker on the packaging. it is a legal issue, obviously, there's been this schedule five which has allowed larger companies do not put labelling on, but this could be changed tomorrow. it does not even have to be a change in the law. if there are warnings to your company that people are having allergic reactions to your food, that people

are being hospitalised because they are being hospitalised because they are eating food that you sell, you don't have to wait for a law change to start putting stickers listing the allergens on the foods that you sell. you can just the allergens on the foods that you sell. you canjust do it because it's the right thing to do. saying that, overall, what we want to do now, what we are really, absolutely we are a voice for so many people, adults who are allergic, families with allergic children, there needs to be some peace of mind to know that when you buy something, you have faith in the product and you know exactly what is in that and if it is dangerous or not to you or your child. you have had to wait two yea rs your child. you have had to wait two years for the inquest to happen and for there to be this conversation about labelling that we and many others are obviously having right now. in that time, nothing has changed. how do you feel about that? what has it been like, waiting, knowing what happened to your daughter and that the packaging was

unchanged ? daughter and that the packaging was unchanged? it's unbelievable, actually, and i think the public have also expressed that. for us as a family, it is incredible that nothing has really changed that is meaningful. it is a sort of cursory change, that somebody like pret a manger have done, to put allergen information on shelf stickers but not yet on the actual packaging of the sandwich. the point is, if someone the sandwich. the point is, if someone is allergic and there are hundreds of thousands of people who are allergic in the uk, they need to have that information on the packaging, not somewhere else. it must be adhered to the printed packaging. and to still not have done that, not only over two years since our child has died as a result but many more years since many

people have been hospitalised, and it is on record that that is the case with pret a manger‘s records of allergic incidents, it is now years and they still actually haven't done it. i think anyone in their right minds knows it is common sense, it isa minds knows it is common sense, it is a matter of responsibility and a matter of trust as a large food operator to at least have the decency to put the allergens on the packaging and not somewhere else where there could be a dissociation between a product and the label. the chief executive of pret a manger has said that they do want there to be meaningful change and they will make sure it does happen. how important is it to you that there is change? it's extremely important. we both have been talking about this, tanya

and myself, in the last days. it is so important because with every minute and hour that passes, we are sitting and the uk is sitting on a time bomb of someone dying yet again. that is how serious it is. ask anyone, do we want anyone to die ain? ask anyone, do we want anyone to die again? no, nobody wants anyone to die, not even pret a manger. if that is the case, then do something. not words, but deeds, right now. you must have been, i'm sure, living with so many different emotions since natasha died. obviously, devastation, sadness, anger. how would you describe where you are now and how you can, how you see things going forward? two years of not being able to move forward with this was really difficult. i would pick up was really difficult. i would pick up the was really difficult. i would pick er was really difficult. i would pick up the paperor on was really difficult. i would pick up the paper or on the news there would be a story of someone who had

died, a young person, quite often of allergies in the two years since. it was always such a shock that these things are still happening but it does not seem to be taken as seriously as we felt it should be. i mean, i made a comment on the last day of the inquest, that i felt that we we re day of the inquest, that i felt that we were finally on a train that was going somewhere, we're on a journey. it felt like had just got on, after being stuck in the same place for a long time. itjust feels now, we are finally moving slowly and that is something that we're both really, really grateful for, and it is something that we definitely want to ta ke something that we definitely want to take of, that we can do this and we can really bring this forward to happen as quickly as possible. you obviously want to do everything that you can to make sure that no family ever has to go through what your

family has gone through. that's right. how will you remember natasha? we remember her every minute of every day. she was... she was full of life. she was happy. she was full of life. she was happy. she was a teenager. she was at that point where she was, she had a bit more freedom and she was excited. she had good friends. she had a great relationship with us and her brother. we were very close family. and there was so much look forward to. life had a lot to offer. as parents, we were excited to see what direction she was going to go in. and to lose that, to not see your child ever again is incomprehensible and unless you live through it, even then, it is difficult and unexplainable, it really is. we

really thank you both very much indeed for your time this morning and send you all of our best wishes. thank you. thank you. rescuers in indonesia are still digging through wreckage and mud in a desperate hunt for more survivors after last week's devastating earthquake and tsunami, with many victims feared trapped in the rubble. the indonesian government has called for international help as the number of dead continues to rise — at least 1200 people are reported to have been killed, hundreds are injured or missing, and many thousands are now homeless and without shelter. the authorities are scrambling to get food, aid and heavy equipment to central sulawesi and the coastal city of palu, the worst affected region. aid agencies from around the world have reached jakarta and the provincial capital, makassar, but are struggling to get to palu city because the local airport and roads have been badly damaged.

efforts continue to move people out of the affected areas. food is short, there are power cuts, and many of the victims have had to be buried in mass graves. a state of emergency has been declared. our indonesia editor rebecca henschke is one of the first journalists to reach palu and she sent this update this morning. well, the relief and rescue efforts are frustratingly slow for people here who, as you can see, have lost lost everything. families are camping out among the rubble of their homes. they say they desperately need clean food and water. they are running out of supplies. we have seen very little aid reaching the area. we had a long and difficult journey to reach here and many of the medical and aid trucks are stuck because of landslides.

so people here are increasingly frustrated and a few minutes ago, whilst we were driving along, rioting broke out. there are people looting shops to get what they need. what is making the situation worse is that there is continuing after—shocks. just a short while ago, a strong 5.4 quake hit this area, making people flee once again and keeping them on edge. the hopes of finding people alive trapped in the rubble now are getting slimmer. what we are finding as we go along is rows of bodies in plastic bags. in some cases, we have seen bodies just covered with corrugated iron. around me now, there is a smell of decomposing bodies, and the locals here say that they know there are people trapped, dead bodies here, but they can't do anything about it at the moment without some kind of support, heavy lifting equipment. the government is digging a huge mass grave for more than 300 bodies,

they have said, to try and bury these people in a muslim and a christian ceremony as a way to stop the disease spreading here, because there is no power and limited clean water. we haven't seen any international aid where we are, although we have been along this area here that has been the first that we have met that is the hardest hit, so they may be working in other areas. but we are still hearing from the area of dongala and three other cities that were closest to the epicentre of that huge 7.5 magnitude quake. that area is still largely cut off, and we are just getting small reports in of the death toll there. there are stories about a village of around 300 people that has been completely submerged by the sea, so very much an evolving picture there, and overall, aid very slow to come in.

from jakarta this morning, we're joined by jan gelfand from the international federation of the red cross and red crescent societies' country cluster team for indonesia, tom howells is the director of programme implementation at save the children and yenni suryani is the country manager in indonesia for catholic relief services. thank you forjoining us. tell us, have you got anybody actually in palu at the moment? i can confirm our first team just arrived this morning so we do now have a team in ayes. the airport has been open for more than 20 rows. —— 18 in palu. we had an initial report from the start. what have they said about what they

are encountering? there are lots of people at the airport saying there are people trying to get out. the other information is similar to the information is similar to the information in your report. obviously there are lots of people in need and aid has not got through yet because of the challenge and difficulties with access and we need to do everything we can to get aid to do everything we can to get aid to people. do you have any team, any members of your team do you have any team, any members of yourteam in do you have any team, any members of your team in palu at the moment? we have people throughout the area now, recognising ourselves as the red cross, we work through the indonesian red cross which has many volunteers, many from that area. we have 178 people on the ground, field kitchens, things coming in by sea,

25 water tanks coming in. but this isa drop 25 water tanks coming in. but this is a drop in the booklet to what the need so we have to do find creative ways to get there, we do not know what the damages in the areas that are more remote, ourteams that what the damages in the areas that are more remote, our teams that had to come in to 12 to 15 hours to get m, to come in to 12 to 15 hours to get in, so it is going to take a while before the assessment is done, but we have a true picture of the situation. we need to re—establish from a links because people from outside the area do not know what has happened to their areas. we are also involved in the management of those people that have died, so to help to curb disease. we are now in a process of bringing in a lot more things, things are opening up a bit more, but this is, the event is very

serious and it is a long—term process. how difficult is it doing with all of those issues immediately in the aftermath that was just described there? i will confirm what he has said because it is really difficult even to get a flight from jakarta to palu which has been impossible for the la st which has been impossible for the last few days and maybe for the next few days as well. our team, they will be reaching palu towards the end of today either early evening by night today because we have to take, they have to drive up to palu and i heard from the team that the road up to palu is clogged up with traffic because some of the road is in very bad condition. could expect more

delays in getting to palu for this team. you said it is going to be sometime before a full assessment can be made of exactly what the needs are and the help that your team are able to deliver at the time, you say it is a drop in the bucket in terms of what is needed. how long do you think it will take to assess? it is going to be incredibly difficult for people to get the island. it is quite a process and we recognise we are clear people are frustrated, that is why we send psychosocial support, the frustration, the hopelessness that people have that they've lost everything. it is going to take a while because the focus right now still remains on search and rescue because the way that people, the volunteers of the indonesian red cross, the monetary organisations work until they find everyone alive

or unfortunately but they have died. —— that they have died. you try to give people the initial things they need so the number of people that have died does not rise because people were not able to get the basic things they needed like water or medical care field. as that happens, there is a process of assessment that takes a while and we have to do it together so we do not duplicate of weight to its —— waste supplies. thank you all very much forjoining us. people living in a russian village, 5000 miles outside of moscow have told the bbc that they recognise one of the key suspects in the salisbury poisoning as a decorated "hero of russia". a bbc team visited the area following reports that the man identified as civilian ruslan boshirov was in fact a military intelligence agent called anatoliy chepiga. the village is close

to the border with china, and chepiga grew up there. our correspondent sarah rainsford is in moscow for us right now and can tell us more. what has been discovered that? this is an village along way from moscow but we sent a team that to the village, it is 5000 miles from here to the east of moscow and that is where we note that colonel anatoliy chepiga drop. a week ago he was identified by the investigative tea m was identified by the investigative team as the true identity of one of the suspects. we wanted to check that. in the village, we showed the photo of anatoliy chepiga and also the photograph provided by british police as one of the key salisbury suspects to damages. they warned there who want to remain anonymous, she was nervous, she confirmed straightway not knowing anything about the story, she said it was anatoliy chepiga, she described him as asa anatoliy chepiga, she described him as as a military officer, a hero of

russia and she was adamant that this was one and the same man. there have been other journalists was one and the same man. there have been otherjournalists that have got to the people in the village to confirm the same thing. other background information we have managed to find out is to confirm that he certainly graduated from a local military college, we know he served in chechnya, and that he served in chechnya, and that he served in chechnya, and that he served in eastern ukraine as well. that is where we think he got his medalfor, as a hero of that is where we think he got his medal for, as a hero of russia, because the kremlin claims it does not have information about that. it is all very slow to come out, it is a difficult man to find out information about, but what we are managing to find out now on the ground is contradictory to what the man himself who appeared on russian state television two weeks ago set to claim he was a tourist in salisbury, a civilian working in fitness nutrition and he travelled there to see the cathedral. the picture emerging is very different,

despite the fact russia continues to deny any involvement in the salisbury poisoning and the kremlin last week told us that they don't wa nt to last week told us that they don't want to discuss this any further, they said many people look alike, that this is simply an informal investigation and they do not to wa nt to investigation and they do not to want to comment further on the case at all. thank you, sarah. how would you feel about befriending a convicted killer? for the last 30 years, a british charity has been helping the public make contact with prisoners on america's death row who otherwise would have no links to anyone beyond the prison walls. their only contact with the outside world is the people who befriend them, and write them letters. in this report, we meet two women who have chosen murderers for pen friends. "it was so good to hear from you. "so glad to know that you are doing better now. "i am always good to hear from you." i don't see them as monsters. i see them as people. "dear, luke, thank you for your latest used letter and artwork.

looking at the date, it seems we might have had a crossover of letters." to them, it is, in some of them, the only way they can experience the outside world. and that is the last time they will probably experience the outside world. they are somebody‘s son, or brother, orfather. i think people open up more on paper than they often do in person, so it can be very revealing. the idea that people would write and befriend folk on death row is just enormously important, it is what humanity is all about. very few of them seem to come from a two—parent normal upbringing. there is usually quite often something traumatic

that has happened, or, you know, and it is not condoning or excusing at all. itjust helps you to understand how they came to be where they are. and that, you know... it is not my place to judge them. they have already been judged and condemned. it is a very oppressive set of circumstances to be in, and then they get a letter out of the blue from someone with a strange stamp on it, and the whole door opens for them. we talk about everything. where i have been, what i have done, what colour my hair is. what is in the garden, what is growing. they always want to know what is growing in the garden. what i have been cooking. "what have you been cooking?" they are very interested in what goes on here and in my life

because not much happens in their life, really. you know, they go on lockdown or, you know, somebody is sick or somebody is executed, unfortunately, and we talk about that. i want them to tell me when they are ready, and if they are never ready, then obviously, you know, they are there for a reason. william was executed on the last day of february this year. i had been writing to william for 12 years. i didn't know what his crime was until he was executed. i think one of the things that caught my attention with a luther

was the fact he was honest from word go. there was no pretending, no cover—up, there was no excuses. he wanted to be up front because he's probably aware that a lot of people wouldn't want to entertain any communication with someone who has been a mass shooter. i threw it on the bar and took out the nine millimetres semiautomatic from its holster and put my back to the wall and opened fire. a nine—millimetre semiautomatic has an ugly rate of fire. it's almost like a machine gun. he admits his guilt. i don't think he couldn't say that he hadn't done it.

and he wanted to share his story. i think there's a little part of me that still remains detached. i don't get myself emotionally involved. i think that is quite important sometimes when you are doing this. whatever they did, they did. i cannot change that. i cannot bring back the person that lost their life and nor can execution, either, actually. everybody deserves a friend, in my eyes. i know not everybody would agree, but i don't agree with what everybody else would want me to agree with. you know, ithink... they are just people. when you've got absolutely nothing, and you're under threat of death, so huge psychological pressures, and someone, a stranger, befriends you, it can be very powerful. they live their life through us,

through people that write. for those that are not literate, life is very difficult. there are thousands of people who have written to folk on death row, probably more people in britain who have written to people on death row than there are in america. that is wonderful. what i've seen over the years is the impact that has had on the human beings there. some of the prisons have said that they actively welcome our presence as it seems to have an effect on morale and discipline because people have that extra element in their lives. i'm theirfriend...

and that's all they are to me, friends. they are just friends. and if people think that's strange, then i can't change that, really, can i? "sending love and blessings as always. "write when you can. "from ann." that report will be inside out east midlands at 7:30pm tonight and on the iplayer afterwards. lots of you have been getting into it after the interview with the pa rents of it after the interview with the parents of a tasha who died from a sesame allergy after eating a sandwich from pret a manger. jennifer on e—mail, says our hearts

go out to the family, the former of having to deal with the situation, the delays and losing a loving daughter cannot begin to fathom how they feel. very brave to go public. their behaviour makes us feel inadequate. kate on e—mail, i a paediatrician who ran an allergy clinic for 20 years. i also have severe allergies myself. i endorse the law has to change so manufacturers clearly display all allergens. i have some sympathy for pret a manger because my own experiences they are better than most food outlets. there needs to be improvement in training for cabin staff and emergency medication on players. an anonymous text, companies must exercise moral response bulleted than hide behind a minimum requirements of the law and mark on twitter, the law on food labelling should be changed immediately, we need proper regulations in the uk. thank you for the messages, keep them coming in. now the weather with simon. the start of the month brought a

rather chilly start but lots of sunshine so far this morning, particularly across england and wales. we have had a fairly decent sunrise, with clear skies. as we go through today, for many, it will stay mostly sunny. this was the scene this morning, just down the road in greater manchester, in trafford, lovely son coming through the trees, and autumnal feel the things now we're into october. lots of sunshine through this morning and across of sunshine through this morning and a cross m ost of sunshine through this morning and across most areas of england and wales. 12 showers wheezed his areas, mostly clearing away, cloud thickening across scotland and northern ireland and some rain moving in later. the breeze picking up moving in later. the breeze picking up as well. actually quite a cool feeling day, temperatures below the average for the time of year, up to 15 degrees in the south—east. through this evening and night, keeping a lot of cloud, rain and drizzle moving southwards. quite a lot of mist and merck on tuesday morning, temperatures not quite as

low as they were last night. during tuesday, it will be a cloudy day, misty and murky for some but a warmer day, temperatures up to 20. goodbye for now. hello it's monday, it's 10 o'clock, i'm joanna gosling. natasha ednan—laperouse was just 15 years old when she died of an allergic reaction to a sandwich that contained sesame. the coroner said the labelling was inadequate. her parents told us without action, the same thing could happen again. with every minute and every hour that passes, we are sitting, and the uk is sitting on a time bomb of somebody dying yet again. that is how serious it is. ask anyone, do we wa nt how serious it is. ask anyone, do we want anyone to die again? no. can the conservatives unify around a plan for brexit at their party conference? one former cabinet minister — justine greening — tells us some serving ministers now accept that there does need to be another referendum on the deal. i think there are ministers and other backbenchers who recognise that this is quite possibly where we will end up. we'll ask a treasury

minister if she agrees. and restaurants will be prevented from taking a share of the tips under new proposals from the prime minister. but should tipping be banned altogether, and staffjust paid more? do let us know what you think. good morning. it's 10 o'clock. here's annita mcveigh is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the day's news. good morning. the parents of a 15—year—old girl who died after a severe allergic reaction to a pret a manger baguette have told this programme that the laws on labelling and pre—packaged food need to change. natasha ednan—laperouse died after eating a sandwich containing sesame seeds on a flight to nice in 2016. last week an inquest into her death found that the label on the packaging was inadequate. natasha's parents said they found it incredible that despite their daughter's death two years ago,

pret a manger have not changed their policy and put stickers on their pre—prepared food listing allergens. if there are warnings to your company that people are having allergic reactions to your food, that people are being hospitalised, because they are eating food that you sell, you don't have to wait for a law changed to start putting stickers on listing the allergens on the foods that you sell. you can just do it because it's the right thing to do. business and brexit are expected to dominate the second day of the conservative party conference in birmingham. the chancellor philip hammond will tell delegates today that business is a force for good. the cbi has said a change of tone would be "enormously welcome". but a major tory donor has accused theresa may of personally failing to champion the business community. speaking to the bbc about leaving the european union, mr hammond said he was confident that britain would make a deal. the mood is undoubtedly that people want to do a deal with the uk, people want to minimise the disruption of the uk's departure from the european union,

they want to continue to have a good relationship with us and smooth trading partnership in the future, and that is the message we hear pretty much universally from across the 27 member states. indonesia has called for international help to deal with the aftermath of an earthquake and a tsunami, which struck the island of sulawesi three days ago. officials are scrambling to get food, aid and equipment to the affected area. more than 840 people are known to have died, but there are fears that number could rise further. dozens of others are reported to be trapped in rubble in the city of palu. hundreds more are thought to be buried in landslides. restaurants are to be forced to hand over all tips to their staff. the prime minister wants to introduce new laws to stop employers making deductions from money left by customers. in recent years, some restaurants have come under fire from unions for deducting up to 10% of tips in administration fees. ford has offered to refund thousands of pounds to customers whose

engines have failed, following a bbc investigation. hundreds of customers have said their cars with ford ecoboost engines have overheated, causing engine failure. many drivers of one litre cars had been told they had to pay for repairs themselves, but ford has now said it will cover the cost. others have reported their cars with bigger engines have burst into flames while they were driving. six prison officers have been injured after violence broke out at a high securityjail in worcestershire. three members of staff at long lartin prison sustained head injuries, and one has a broken arm. the incident started on sunday morning after officers searched a wing of the jail. it took seven hours to regain control. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. more at 10.30. do get in touch with us throughout the morning — use the hashtag victoria live. let us know what you think about

tipping in restaurants, we will be talking about late later with the government saying it will be illegal for restaurants to keep a share tips. also let us know your thoughts on and allergies and labelling after that interview with natasha and another is's parents. if you're emailing and are happy for us to contact you — and maybe want to take part in the programme — please include your phone number in your message. if you text, you'll be charged at the standard network rate. let's get some sport now — holly is at the bbc sport centre. it was a long night of partying in paris for europe's golfers after they thrashed the united states to thomas bjorn's side won by 17.5—10.5 at le golf national, sparking jubilant scenes as ben croucher reports. in safe hands. this is the european team who didn't

just conquer one of the strongest ever american sides, they thrashed them. heading into sunday's singles, europe already had a healthy lead all the early defeat for rory mcilroy did little to settle the heart rate. but jon mcilroy did little to settle the heart rate. butjon rahm did, beating tiger woods and beating his chest. i wonder where he learned that from? 0h, chest. i wonder where he learned that from? oh, yes. look at him go, look at him go! ian poulter is many mr ryder cup and when he beat world number one dustin johnson, europe we re number one dustin johnson, europe were on the brink. then phil mickelson stuck it in the drink and the ryder cup was staying beside of the ryder cup was staying beside of the pond. they said it be done but what do you think now? this european team was questioned, people question the pics, question the quality we had, andl the pics, question the quality we had, and i think we showed this week what togetherness we have. rory, rory, rory! and how it worked, for three days outside paris, this was a

europe united. ben proud, bbc news. lewis hamilton has taken a big step towards a fifth world championship after a controversial victory at the russian grand prix. mercedes bosses ordered his team—mate valtteri bottas to let hamilton by to boost his chances of beating title rival sebastian vettel. his championship lead is now 50 points with five races remaining. he was a real gentleman to let me by. obviously, he's now not fighting for the championship is where we are. it's just been such a great weekend for the team. the team have done such an exceptionaljob to have this advantage on ferrari and have a one—two. usually i would just be elated but i can understand how difficult it was for valtteri, but really, he did a fantasticjob today and deserved to win. in the premier league, burnley have moved up to 12th in the table after beating cardiff 2—1. welsh striker sam vokes scored the winning goal for the clarets. cardiff remain in the relegation zone and still haven't won since being promoted back to the top flight.

steven gerrard suffered just the second defeat of his rangers managerial career after a 1—0 defeat away to newly—promoted livingston in the scottish premiership. dolly menga with the only goal of the game after a well—worked move. the result means rangers miss the chance to go second whilst livingston are up to third. that's all the sport for now. back to you. theresa may is hoping to use this week's conservative party confence in birmingham to unite the party around her brexit plans before time runs out. the brexit secretary will tell the conference today that the government is prepared to walk away from the talks with no deal, if the eu tries to lock the uk into the customs union. in a moment, we'll be hearing from the former cabinet ministerjustine greening, and also from the treasury minister liz truss. now let's speak to our political guru norman smith, who's

at the conservative party conference in birmingham. over to you. i think they ought to be dishing out these four people coming in, a bit ofa hard hat to protect people from all of the rocks and mortars and sundry masonry the different brexit camps are chucking at each other. brexit is an issue which divides the party like no other. there are those who asked deb off the loyal to theresa may and are sticking with her on the check is planned. there are those who think the only way to resolve this is do have another referendum. —— the chequers plan. there are those like borisjohnson chequers plan. there are those like boris johnson and jacob rees—mogg you take the view there needs to be a clean break with the eu, something more like the canada deal and we are kind of going around in circles. it isa kind of going around in circles. it is a bit like a modern version of the magic roundabout, round and round we go, there are no new arguments and no new thoughts. everyone is just arguments and no new thoughts. everyone isjust going round and round, saying the same thing. i

think that this conference is probably not going to resolve anything. it is a bit like when you get asked to spend the weekend with friends you would rather not spend a weekend with and you just say to your better half, look, let's try to get through this and that is what this conference is like, mrs may just wants to get through it without too many blows to the head, as it were, to get to the end of the week with the party to be just about still in one piece. norman, thank you very much. a short while ago, i spoke to the former education secretaryjustine greening. she resigned from the government injanuary and supports another referendum on the brexit deal. i began by asking her what she made of the brexit secretary dominic raab's comments that if the eu tried to lock the uk into a customs union then there would be no deal. well, look, ithink well, look, i think we obviously wa nt to well, look, i think we obviously want to see the prime minister comeback with a deal. want to see the prime minister comeback with a deallj want to see the prime minister comeback with a deal. i think she is hamstrung by the fact that the chequers deal she is trying to get through is something which does not

really have the support of the british public. my view is whatever she comes back with, parliament is in stalemate. i've said this before the summer. if mps can't find a route forward on brexit, it will have to be the british public. you we re have to be the british public. you were the first former cabinet minister to come out and say there should be a second referendum. have you had many conversations with others in the party about the level of support now for the second referendum? yes, i have and i think there is a growing recognition from conservative mps that if we are not going to be able to get a route through on brexit past parliament because you have different groups of different mps blocking each route forward , different mps blocking each route forward, then there is only one way to unblock that and that is through a final say given back to the british people. some would say in the labour party, let's have a general election but the challenge with brexit is that it totally cuts across party lines. that is one of

the reasons why i think all of the westminster parties have had so many problems trying to work the way through on this. my view has always been that the only way you can break the deadlock is by giving the routes that we have ahead of us back to the british people and like most people, idid not british people and like most people, i did not come into politics to spend my whole time debating brexit. i'm interested in the issues that affect the daily lives of people around the country. i think that is what most people want parliament to get back onto and it is vital now that we resolve brexit and find a way to move on to the other stuff that really matters. can you estimate the number of tory mps who are now backing the second referendum? there's obviously several who have come out in public. i think there are ministers and other backbenchers who recognise that this is quite possibly where we will end up. my argument to them has a lwa ys will end up. my argument to them has always been that parliament should be planning ahead on behalf of the british people. we shouldn'tjust get to that moment in the autumn when the prime minister comes back with a deal and then vote it down

and not have a game plan as to what happens next. we all have to be responsible, which is why i would say to tory mps watching this, think what you will need to do on behalf of your communities if we do reach the deadlock that i believe we will in parliament. you said you think there are ministers that think that we will end up with a second referendum. is that cabinet level ministers? it's at the cabinet level andi ministers? it's at the cabinet level and i would say it is also a junior ministerial level. is that because you've had direct conversations? direct conversations with cabinet ministers about this? i've been talking to ministers and backbenchers around parliament about why i think we have reached an impasse and why i think it is the responsibility of parliament to make sure that we have a route through if we get to that impasse which i believe we will in the autumn. if we end up there, can we survive?

we have philip hammond describe in borisjohnson as someone who cannot do grown—up politics. how would you describe what is going on within the tory party right now? what is frustrating for me is whilst we are obsessing over the route for brexit, i think some people in our country think the things that matter in day—to—day lives, whether it is health, education, decent housing and homes, those issues seemed to be second place brexit and i think what i have been talking about here is the need for the party to have a clear mission on something like social mobility commission quality of opportunity for young people wherever they are growing up in our country. i think if you looked at the 2016 referendum, or if you look at the 2017 general election and how people were voting and white, a lot of it was around lack of opportunity for too many people in our country. whatever happens on brexit, that issue, the profound issue will still be there and that is why my perspective, that is why the party

should step up to the plate on social mobility and opportunity and that will be the core mission that we wa nt that will be the core mission that we want to share with the british people. publicly, the government is saying that the cabinet is fully behind chequers. when you say you believe there are cabinet ministers who think it is possible we will end up with a second referendum, it does not sound like privately everyone is so not sound like privately everyone is so confident. i think everybody can see the possible routes for the final deal and discussion around that deal and the final months around that. how that might work out. i do not think it isa that might work out. i do not think it is a surprise that people are trying to work a way through. we'll theresa may be read at this time next year? —— we'll theresa may be read at this time next year? she needs to get on with herjob. what is ahead, who knows? we are in

and uncertain period but i know people in my community have slightly lost the will to live on brexit. they want to find a route forward and drawa they want to find a route forward and draw a line under it and they wa nt and draw a line under it and they want the uk parliament and mp stood debate the matter is that relate to them day—to—day. you talk about what them day—to—day. you talk about what the people in the country want to hear. what they hear from the tory party isjeremy what they hear from the tory party is jeremy hunt describing what they hear from the tory party isjeremy hunt describing the european union tactics on a negotiation being like the soviet union and punishing the uk for wanting to leave. philip hammond says boris johnson wanting to leave. philip hammond says borisjohnson cannot do grown—up politics, you have jacob rees—mogg st bede chequers plan is the deadest of dying ducks. how do you think people feel when the hear all about? i think what they see is two years after the brexit vote, we feel like we're going round in circles and i

think people felt by now the pieces would have fallen into place and yet we still seem to be debating some of the most basic fundamental political questions and economic questions that are around brexit and i think alone massively worries many, many people seeing what is happening in parliament. that is justine parliament. that isjustine greening talking to me earlier saying that she understands their rack cabinet ministers and ministers at lower level who think that a referendum is going to be what ends up happening. if on e—mail says, why cannot the mps get it in their heads that the people have spoken and we elect them to speak for... go for another referendum and the country will be in turmoil. we would be able to call for our election results to be run again if we do not like the results, wa ke again if we do not like the results, wake up. brian on e—mail — a

referendum must be between no deal and a deal, not include voting to remain in the european union. if they cannot work out the best of a complicated situation, how can the public? this is what mps are elected for so public? this is what mps are elected forso an public? this is what mps are elected for so an empathetic node to another referendum. the brexit secretary will be speaking at the conference ina will be speaking at the conference in a short while. he has said, will be saying, that his party will not accept any attempt at via the for the eu "lock us in" into a custom union and would leave us no choice but to leave with a no deal. we go to the conference for now. there is a possibility dominic raab has been introduced. no, that is not him. we expect him to speak sharply. i think

this is ashley fox, the leader of the conservatives in the european parliament. he will speak for five minutes or so and then dominic raab will be speaking. dominic raab will save the uk's willingness to compromise is not without limits and later on philip hammond will be speaking, attempting to look beyond brexit in a speech about plans to raise salaries and that is something justine greening was talking about when i spoke to her earlier, saying she did not go into politics to speak about brexit and once the concerns of ordinary people in their day—to—day lives to be more of a focus. of course it is a brexit dominating as the countdown continues to the deadline for a final deal. the government still saying that chequers remains the only deal on the table. the cabinet is signed up to it, even though

others are not and the labour party and made clear at their party conference last week that they are most likely to vote against a deal and would support a second referendum. we are hoping to speak to liz truss, the chief secretary to the treasury, but we cannot speak to her about the moment so we will try to get in touch with her sharply. tens of thousands of pounds may have been stolen in a charity fundraising scam after people posing as a fundraising company disappeared with the money that was raised by people shaking tins on the street. vertigo child solutions, promised the funds would be passed on to help vulnerable children and support london's homeless and needy. but instead, both the charities that were supposed to benefit — haven't received a penny. vertigo child solutions has since disappeared from its whitechapel offices in east london. earlier i spoke to solomon smith, who runs brixton soup kitchen, alex gordon who collected money for the charity before

realising it was a scam, and sarah atkinson from the charity commission. alex told me that she became increasingly suspicious with collection tins being stuffed into duffel bags at the end of the day. so i worked for them for three weeks and then after those three weeks, we found out it was sort of a scam company. and obviously i stopped work immediately and this is when i was talking to the police and the charity commission. and we tried to tell as many people as possible that we had found out it was a scam, but we didn't have everyone's numbers because there was just so many different people involved. so i think it was people who were there for the last sort of two weeks after i left that this was happening to. how did you find out it was a scam company? so, there was a few things over the few weeks that sort of where adding up the scene a bit strange, and i think,

i was saying this the other day, i think because, everyone that worked there was in the position that they needed the money, so we just, i think we didn't want to believe that it wasn't a real company at first. but, yeah, things started to add up thatjust seemed a bit strange. so we had spoken to the second charity, brixton soup kitchen, which is what solomon's from, and we sent him an e—mail and he said he had heard from the company, vertigo child solutions. and so when he said he had heard of them, we thought, maybe they are actually working together. but it turned out they had just sent him one e—mail just make sure they were talking to him and that was it. and so the way that we finally found out that it definitely was a scam was that one day we suddenly thought, why don't we just ring the first charity we were supposed to be working for and check whether they ever received any money? and obviously, as soon as we spoke to them, they said, no, we never received any money from this company, we never agreed to work with them, and we have also sent them a cease and desist because they keep using our name. so this was the charity we were raising for before brixton soup kitchen.

ok, so, solomon, you are with brixton soup kitchen. yeah. you were contacted by alex. was that the first inkling that you had about what might be happening? yeah. it was, like, alex first called me and then i wasjust getting calls each day. and i wasjust like, is this really going on? because it was like even when we tried to contact them, we couldn't get through to them. did you know that they were fund—raising in your name from the start? they contacted us injuly. we said this is what we rely on, we rely on donations. but again, they couldn't send us any information. so, speaking to the team, and it wasjust, like, doesn't sound right. so when we were trying to call them back to say this is something we do not want to be a part of, we literally couldn't get through to them. we tried to e—mail them, couldn't get through to them, and we just didn't hear nothing until we heard back from the employees.

sarah, from the charity commission, what do you think about this, how easy a scam is this for somebody to pull off? it is important to say first up that situations like this, although they happen, they are rare, so most charity fundraising is legitimate and all in a good cause. but occasionally it can happen because of the good name of charities like solomon's, it can happen that somebody will try to exploit that for their own ends. so there are important things that people can do when they are giving money to make checks. it is also important, exactly as alex did here, but if you think something is wrong and you are involved in this at any level that you put the warning out, let us know, let the police know, because, as i say, unfortunately, there can be people who want to abuse charity. and of course, the sooner we can identify that and stop it, the better we can protect charities. vertigo child solutions is a company, it is not a charity, so you cannot get involved in what happens with that company because it is beyond your remit.

in terms of preventing it, you have said people can ask questions, but questions were being asked and yet they still manage to get away with it. so what alex describes, where something doesn't feel right and people ask questions, that is a great protection. for charities that are approached, for individuals approached for work, for people who are approached on the street to give, if you ask questions — and it is absolutely right to ask questions. people sometimes feel uncomfortable when charity's involved to seem suspicious and to ask questions. that protection, to ask questions and trust your instincts, if it doesn't feel right, you can give another day, another way, and letting us know if something doesn't feel right, to letters macro so we can check into it is the most important thing you can do. she has

done an important thing to raise the alarm and it heavily prevents more charities getting involved and more money going astray. how do you feel about your charity being caught up in this? tarah welsh. the reason being because i have to put in 15% work —— 50% work and 50% protection and sometimes it feels like i have to do (50% sometimes it feels like i have to do 60% protection because it is easy for someone to get somebody's charity registry number, get online, get a bucket and fundraise. and one of the main thing is what i decided to do this is because i feel their run lots of charities doing a lot of fantastic work and there is lots of fantastic work and there is lots of fantastic people giving money to charities and i don't want that to ever stop. still to come... restaurants face a ban on taking workers tips — but should tips be banned altogether and servers simply paid a better wage? lots of you getting intojohn lewis.

we can bring your comments into the conversation in just we can bring your comments into the conversation injust a we can bring your comments into the conversation in just a short while. the parents of a 15—year—old girl who died after a severe allergic reaction to a pret a manger baguette have told the victoria derbyshire programme that the laws on labelling and pre—packaged food need to change. natasha ednan—laperouse died after eating a sandwich containing sesame seeds on a flight to nice in 2016. last week an inquest into her death found that the label on the packaging was inadequate. natasha'a parents said they found it incredible that despite their daughter's death two years ago, pret a manager have not changed their policy and put stickers on their pre—prepared food listing allergens. if there are warnings to your company that people are having allergic reactions to your food, that people are being hospitalised

because they are eating food that you sell, you don't have to wait for a law change to start putting stickers listing the allergens on the foods that you sell. you canjust do it because it's the right thing to do. business and brexit are expected to dominate the second day of the conservative party conference in birmingham. the chancellor philip hammond will tell delegates today that business is a force for good. the cbi has said a change of tone would be "enormously welcome". but a major tory donor has accused theresa may of personally failing to champion the business community. indonesia has called for international help to deal with the aftermath of an earthquake and a tsunami, which struck the island of sulawesi three days ago. officials are scrambling to get food, aid and equipment to the affected area. more than 840 people are known to have died, but there are fears that number could rise further. dozens of others are reported to be trapped in rubble in the city of palu. hundreds more are thought to be buried in landslides. restaurants are to be forced to hand

over all tips to their staff. the prime minister wants to introduce new laws to stop employers making deductions from money left by customers. in recent years, some restaurants have come under fire from unions for deducting up to 10% of tips in administration fees. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. let's go back to the conservative conference now — and the continuing questions over brexit — so we're joined from birmingham by liz truss, the chief secretary to the treasury. good morning, victoria! it is joanna, actually but welcome to the problem. —— to the programme. joanna, actually but welcome to the problem. -- to the programme. sorry, i can't see you. it's ok, justine greening earlier said that there are cabinet ministers and lower ranking ministers do it accept they'll we are going to end up in the second

referendum. do you agree? absolutely not, people were very clear in voting for brexit, we are getting on with it and the prime minister is doing a greatjob of negotiating with the eu and i believe we will get a deal very shortly. of course it would always be a tricky process but the last thing we need is a second referendum, reopening the uncertainty when the british people we re very uncertainty when the british people were very clear about what they wanted. there is a parliamentary stalemate, though, isn't there? you have got labour saying they would support a deal if it meant staying in the customs union and the government say there is absolutely no way. we will hear from dominic raab today that there is no deal that will involve staying in the customs union and in that case, it would be no—deal brexit. what is the route through parliament? would be no—deal brexit. what is the route through pa rliament7|j would be no—deal brexit. what is the route through parliament? i don't agree that those are the choices. there is a very clear choice which is we secure a deal, we are not part of the customs union but we have tariff free trade, both with the eu

and the opportunity to strike it with countries around the world. that is what the prime minister is negotiating. that is what we have got on the table. that is negotiable with the eu but i believe it will also command the support of parliamentary colleagues. sorry, why do you believe that that would command the support of parliament to collea g u es command the support of parliament to colleagues when it is clear that there are some on your own side you don't agree and it was spelt out by the labour party last week at their conference? it might not be the perfect choice but ultimately, i think when theresa may comes back with a deal that respect the views of the british people, who want to leave the eu, at the same time as delivering that tariff free access with the eu, i believe our party will come behind that and support it. we have got to remember what the alternatives are common here, another referendum would be a disaster, i think it would be com pletely disaster, i think it would be completely anti—democratic, and also the idea that we would have a general election and jeremy corbyn

would be a complete disaster that the country at large. you have said previously that he voted to remain but you back leave because you believe you were wrong about the economic damage of leave and he would vote for brexit if there was another vote. why do you think you we re another vote. why do you think you were wrong about the economic damage when we hear a report from the european reform for analysis that echoes analysis done by other groups as well, indicating that the cost of brexit, £500 million per week, and the economy is 2.5% smaller than it would have been if the uk had voted to remain. there were all these predictions of armageddon, if you remember, before the brexit vote and those didn't come to pass. i'm sorry, this isn't a prediction, they are saying this is what is actually happening. no, what is actually happening. no, what is actually happening in our economy is we have the lowest unemployment since 1975, we have got positive growth rates, we have got positive growth rates, we have got more businesses

investing comic that is what is actually happening in the economy. i don't recognise what that report is saying. so it isn't costing £500 million a week? from what i understand you are saying, that is against a counterfactual that hasn't happened. what we are talking about isa happened. what we are talking about is a positive economy, a strong and robust british economy. of course we wa nt to robust british economy. of course we want to secure a deal, that is the best possible option for britain but in any eventuality, i know that we have a strong economy and we will do well. i mean, just to put to you exactly what it is the centre for european reform analysis says, it is already costing the public purse £500 million a week and the economy is 2.5% smaller, public finances have been dead by £26 billion per year which is more than half of the defence budget. —— has been dented by £26 billion per year. that is their analysis of the actual impact

right now. i don't recognise that analysis. ok. boris johnson continues to be a larger—than—life figure in the tory party. he certainly does! he has been described by philip hammond as someone described by philip hammond as someone who is unlikely to ever be prime minister and has no grasp of detail. do you agree with that? we have already got a prime minister who is doing a fantasticjob. it is really important that as a party we back her and her negotiation with the eu. it is vitally important we get a good deal and that is what i'm interested in. what philip hammond is going to be saying today in his speech is being unashamedly pro—business, backing business because that is what we need, we need economic growth to deliver more jobs and higher living standards for people. all this other stuff is tittle tattle, as far as i'm concerned. philip hammond says he has no grasp of detail, that is some

are obviously very high up in your party who is talking about it. —— someone very party who is talking about it. —— someone very high up. what philip hammond is talking about is the economy and the fact we are making the apprenticeship levy more flexible so we can get more young people into training, the work we are doing to build more infrastructure across our country to boost growth. that is what is really important for the people watching, ami important for the people watching, am i going to get a betterjob? are my children going to have a better future? that is what we are working on as future? that is what we are working onasa future? that is what we are working on as a conservative party. on the economy, philip hammond spoke this morning and he said there has clearly been a hit to the economy through the uncertainty caused by brexit and that has an impact on the british economy. it is certainly true there are people out there ready to make investments should we secure the good deal which i believe we will. i think that will open up more investment coming into the country which is good. but let's not

talk down the economy. we've got the lowest unemployment since 1975. we've got a record number of people in work. there are fewer children in workless households than before. yes, we need to do more but we are seeing real wages increasing and we are seeing real investment in areas like technology that wasn't happening before. liz truss, thank you forjoining us. we are going straight to dominic raab. the brexit secretary is speaking at the conference right now. this time, we will claim that no deal means patients would get their medicines, mobile phone charges will go through the roof and debris will fall from the roof and debris will fall from the sky. —— they will claim. honestly, it would be pathetic if it wasn't so dangerous. underjeremy corbyn, the labour party has now opened the door to reversing brexit,

a clear breach of their manifesto promise, a deliberate tactic to wea ken promise, a deliberate tactic to weaken the negotiating position of the uk for their own narrow political gain. applause just imagine for a moment if they succeeded. trust in our democracy would all but vanished. most people, whether they voted to leave or to remain, would see it for what it is, a shameless ruse by an establishment that thinks it has the right to keep asking the same question until it gets the answer it wants. applause and who would benefit? if there is mass disillusionment with the system, then it is the populists, the far left, the outright, who will

rea p the far left, the outright, who will reap the reward as they have in other countries where the establishment has ignored people's concerns, where voters have been told their hopes and fears are not imported because the establishment knows best. because of that in many of those countries, extremists are on the march, that is where this kind of disdain for democracy leads. you don't think it could happen here? just take a look at the labour party. a few years ago, the moderates of new labour were in charge. we had our differences with tony blair and gordon brown. big differences. that is dominic raab, the brexit secretary, speaking at the brexit secretary, speaking at the tory party conference and we will be back at conference at the end of the programme, and talking to norman smith. high street restaurant chains will be forced to hand over tips to their staff under new government plans. the prime minister wants to introduce new laws to stop employers making deductions from money left for workers by customers. in recent years, some restaurants have come under fire from unions

for deducting up to 10% of tips in administration fees. dave turnbull is a regional officer for the unite union and has been campaiging for fairer tipping rules. jay rayner is a restaurant critic who thinks tips are outdated. and kate nicholls is chief executive of the trade association hospitality uk. shejoined us representing the restau ra nts. shejoined us representing the restaurants. thank you forjoining us. restaurants. thank you forjoining us. what do you think, tips on the right thing anyway? first of all, clarity is these will bring. i've been writing about restaurants for 19 years and even i get confused as to where the money goes and what happens to it. some form of clarity, evenif happens to it. some form of clarity, even if the tories have stolen this policy from labour who announced it a few months ago. some sort of clarity is a marvellous thing. but in the long term, i find the idea that people working in restaurants are dependent on a reasonable income

on the caprices of their customers really rather demeaning. you are not going to get an extra fiver off the editors are doing a good job. i'd much prefer it if all service charges were wrapped up in the cost ofa charges were wrapped up in the cost of a meal which would mean the headline prices would go up but at least you would know that the people serving you were on a reasonable wage and all the confusion would go away. kate, what do you think? the government now says there will be new laws to stop employers taking money from tips. we don't think new laws are necessarily the right answer. this issue first came up in consultation with government two or three years ago and as a result, the industry put its house in order, jay rayner is right, this is about transparency and making sure that customers and the teams that work with us know exactly what happens to theirtips and where with us know exactly what happens to their tips and where it goes. as a result of government concerns two years ago, we put in place a self—regulatory code of practice, together with unite, to address the issue and we feel that is a better

way of taking it forward and we won't have any unforeseen consequences, won't have any unforeseen consequences, rather than the blunt instrument of legislation. dave turnbull, how do you see it? kate is right, we drew up a code of practice but we don't think that's necessarily addresses the issue. i would agree withjay, necessarily addresses the issue. i would agree with jay, there necessarily addresses the issue. i would agree withjay, there needs to be clarity because the problem is different restaurants have different policies and different interpretations. we have been through quite a challenging time re ce ntly through quite a challenging time recently with tgi friday, and whether or not they comply with the code we have agreed with the employer. we welcome the announcement that there is going to be legislation. just explain again because it is ready confusing, a service charge means something quite different from a tip? —— really confusing. to simplify set anyone understand, a service charge or any money you leave on a credit or debit ca rd money you leave on a credit or debit card technically, legally, belongs to the employer until they decide

what is going to happen to it. that is where we find a lot of the problems arise. and so will the government proposals make a difference to that? if the government proposal is that 100% of tips and service charges should go to the staff, then that would address the issue because there would be no reason for an employer to be taking any money out of that. but obviously, we have yet to see the detail and we are yet to analyse exactly what it is the government is proposing. how does it work? do restau ra nts proposing. how does it work? do restaurants use the money that comes in from tips and service charges to effectively get around the minimum wage, so it is a supplement, a movable feast? explain from that perspective. it used to be lawful for employers to use tips to contribute towards the minimum wage but we campaigned against that and the law was changed in 2009 by the

la st the law was changed in 2009 by the last labour government. that is no longer lawful. what kind of happens is exactly as jay said, there is a low pay in economy within the restaurants where everybody is paid minimum wage and then relies on tips to make a living wage. it is something we would support, the notion staff deserve a living wage and it is really down to the customer to decide if they leave a tip. kate, you want to determine. there is no question about trying to undercut wages, tips remain a reward for good service, it is right the good service can be shared amongst the whole team and not just the way to because it is made up of a whole team delivering it. it is not a question of who pay. the sector is paying above the national minimum wage. and tips are coming in and

supplementing income and providing a top up where people are rewarding good service. what we don't want to see... i want to let jay see... i want to letjay comment. we know there are restaurants are not paying a reasonable wage, but the idea to go back to this thing of rewarding good service and it is all dependent on mood and any number of different factors, it doesn't happen in 90% of our economy, why should the restaurant business be any different? make sure they're being paid a proper wage to make sure the diner is not confused as well. it is not voluntary deed 10% addition as a service charge. having done thisjob addition as a service charge. having done this job for so many yea rs, having done this job for so many years, i get confused between service charge, voluntary service charge already added to the bill, the idea of what happens if you put cash on the table. it is incredibly confusing. the government's announcement, which i have to say,

they have had a little domestic policy and if this is all they have got it is rather tragic, they have not given us any clarity on this and i wish them well wading into the complexities of the system because it has destroyed lesser people than mine. cani mine. can i say, the service charge is volu nta ry, can i say, the service charge is voluntary, and additional tip is volu nta ry voluntary, and additional tip is voluntary and there is already a requirement, since 2009, four restaurants to make clear what happens to the monier and this is about transparency for the workers and customers and they can make a decision as to how they want to proceed. thank you all very much. we have had lots of people get in touch. scott on e—mail— tips are a great excuse for business owners to pay their staff less. i would like to cnn ‘s to this culture and genuine gratitude with words. that would have a better impact. simple, staff should be paid a simple wage. rachel

on twitter — tipping is an excuse not to play? pay decent wages. they should be paid enough not to rely on tips. harry on e—mail — just returned on a holiday to the usa the stock despite being prewired, we dismayed at the tip culture there. it appears there be moves to ban it and make it voluntary. they should be for good service. they should be made to pay higher wages and not deduct any percentage for admin. sean on text, removing tipping will remove good service as they will not be over accommodating in hope of a good step and just do the basics. thank you for your views as well. thank you for your views as well. thank you for your views as well. thank you very much. more now on our top story. on friday, the inquest into the death of 15—year—old natasha ednan—laperouse, who died after eating a sandwich containing sesame found that the label

on its packaging was inadequate. natasha died injuly 2016 after suffering a cardiac arrest during a flight. she became unwell after eating a baguette from pret a manger that contained sesame, which she was allergic to. natasha had checked the packaging before buying the sandwich and the ingredient wasn't listed on. the coroner dr sean cummings said he will be reporting to the government whether the food labelling rules for chains like pret a manger need to change. earlier we spoke to natasha's parents, who told us about their daughter's last moments he called me and said, she is going to go completely in the next minute, maybe two. you have to say goodbye to her right now, right now, quickly. i am putting the phone by her ear so she can hear you. if she can hear you, she will hear you. that is when i said goodbye to her. as i finished, he just said, thank you, hung up to then call up

and speak to her brother who would also get an opportunity to say goodbye to her. i actually phoned my parents, natasha's grandparents from my side of the family and tanya's, and our son, who was 13 at the time, was just being looked after by a grandmother, and all of them in quick succession had a chance to say goodbye and just about a few minutes before her heart completely stopped and she flat lined. what happened, as she was dying in a hospital on that sunday, i spoke to my mother back in london and i said please go and buy the same sandwich from your local pret a manger right now and call me back.

and go and check if there are allergens in the sandwich, speak to them. she did and she called me back and she told me, as natasha was dying, she went to the local sandwich shop, pret a manger, bought the same sandwich, there was no allergy warnings in sight at all, but she went to the counter and asked the staff where you pay. she said, is there any thing in this much to be concerned about? my granddaughter has allergies. the staff then went back to somewhere in the back room and handed my mother a folder — the typical folder you would find in any office. and said, there is some information in there. my mother then looked through it, through lots of information, and there was one sheet there of paper, like an excel spreadsheet, listing most

of the sandwiches on one side, and if you carefully run yourfinger across, in very small writing, mother noticed there immediately sesame seeds were highlighted as allergen in the sandwich. and my mother was stunned, she recounted, she said to the staff, where are the sesame seeds? cos they are not visible to the naked eye. she was told by the staff that they are it baked into the dough. my mother screamed and she said, you have murdered my grandchild. society as a whole has to take it much more seriously and it starts with the law stating that if anything is pre—packaged, it has to have a list of one of... there are 14 allergens, only 14 allergens that are listed by the food standards agency, and they have to be easily, easily seen by anybody buying

anything that is pre—packaged and that means a sticker on the packaging. it is a legal issue, obviously, there's been this schedule five which has allowed larger companies do not put labelling on, but this could be changed tomorrow. it does not even have to be a change in the law. if there are warnings to your company that people are having allergic reactions to your food, that people are being hospitalised because they are eating food that you sell, you don't have to wait for a law change to start putting stickers listing the allergens on the foods that you sell. you canjust do it because it's the right thing to do. saying that, overall, what we want to do now, what we are really, absolutely we are a voice for so many people, adults who are allergic, families with allergic children, there needs to be some peace of mind to know that when you buy something,

you have faith in the product and you know exactly what is in that and if it is dangerous or not to you or your child. but we have had some comment studied at rebekah says... let's go back to the conservative party conference. dominic raab has been speaking. let'sjoin norman. that was a really tough talking wire

brush a speech we heard from dominic raab directed at the eu and said they need to get serious if they wa nt to they need to get serious if they want to deal and they need to negotiate on the basis of chequers and they should not think that mrs may is bluffing by saying we will walk if we do not get the sort of deal we want. all of that, of course, just 24 hours after we heard jeremy hunt in a equally bruising speech saying that if the youth that they could push us in a corner, we would fight back. you get a sense of a rhetoric is really being ratcheted at all in terms of the eu. dominic raab, himself a brexiteer, at all in terms of the eu. dominic raab, himselfa brexiteer, had at all in terms of the eu. dominic raab, himself a brexiteer, had a clear message for those bags are tea rs clear message for those bags are tears and sniping away at mrs may. ifi tears and sniping away at mrs may. if i had told you three years ago that we were going to end free movement, stop the vast annual budget and visions, leave the single

market, get out of the customs union, pursue an independent trade policy, make parliament supreme, exit the common fisheries policy and ditch the common agricultural policy, you would have bitten my arm. if the eu match our ambition and our pragmatism, that is what our proposals will deliver. isaid if i said if they match our pragmatism. why all this tough talking markers is because the —— matters because the clock is ticking down. there is a fortnight ago until the next eu summit which is make or break time when even leaders will decide whether they are going to do a deal in november or whether everything is off. the time now to try and get some sort of negotiation going again after the stand—off in salzburg is

incredibly short but we know that mrs may has said she is prepared to compromise more and she is going to bring forward some new thinking on this vexed issue of northern ireland. that may be the moment she cannot edged towards a deal for stub evenif cannot edged towards a deal for stub even if she gets the deal, remember, thatis even if she gets the deal, remember, that is only half the story. she then has to bring the deal back to parliament and there, just talking to so many people here and tory mps, they are adamant that if it is anything like chequers, they are going to vote it down because there seems to be a fairly solid block and now of conservative mps that come what may, whatever the prime minister manages to bring back, and they seem pretty dead set to vote against the deal, which means we could yet be heading towards a new deal scenario. norman, thank you very much indeed.

much more coverage from the tory party conference throughout the day on the bbc news channel. bbc newsroom live is coming up next. thank you for your company today. have a good day. goodbye. good morning. starting the new working week and month with some sunshine, but things will turn cloudy as the day goes on and with that there will be some rain moving into northern parts as well. at the moment, still sunshine, particular crossing window and wales. this is on the coast of east sussex. that continues for most people in england and wales, the cloud thickening in the north and more cloud moving its way in here with rain spreading to

the far north west of scotland. dry for most of us and temperatures, they are below the average for the time of year, northern parts up to 15 degrees and then in the south—east. the reigning northern areas will move south, patchy rain and drizzle, misty and make conditions developing, especially around western coasts. some pictures there with it not quite as low as last night. through tuesday, a cloudy day for all of us. some brighter skies towards scotland. is it will stay dry for many after dampen drizzly weather in the mine but it would be a warm day with highs of up to 20 celsius. this is bbc news.

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