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today at 5, the prime minister declares that britain will have full control of its immigration policy after brexit. theresa may says a new system will focus on the skills people bring, not where they come from. we will be able to decide the basis on which people come to the uk, that hasn't been possible for many years. for people coming from the eu that will change. huge crowds as borisjohnson addresses the conference, he called theresa may's brexit plan a ‘constitutional outrage‘ there is time, this is the moment to check trekkers. we'll have the latest from the conference in birmingham, and we'll be talking to conservative chairman — brandon lewis, later in the programme. the other main stories on bbc news at 5. rescue workers in indonesia reach some of the worst affected areas after an earthquake and tsunami left more than tweleve hundred people dead and tens of thousands needing urgent help. all couples in england and wales will be able to enter into a civil partnership — as the government agrees to change
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the law following pressure from hetrosexual campaigners. cristiano ronaldo faces an investigation by police in las vegas after a woman alleges the footballer sexually assaulted her. he denies the claims. and too many blue plaques? the chairman of the group behind them thinks so, and says the links can be tenuous. it's 5 o'clock. our main story is the prime minister's claim, that new rules she's set out today mean that after brexit the uk will have control of immigration ‘across the board‘, in her own words, for the first time in decades. she says low—skilled immigration will fall under a new visa system
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where it‘s workers‘ skills that matter, not where those workers come from. during the day the former foreign secretary borisjohnson spoke to a packed hall on the conference fringe, where he described the prime minister‘s brexit plan as a ‘cheat‘, which would increase levels of mistrust among the voters. our political correspondent iain watson has more details from the conservative party conference in birmingham. it's it‘s a political announcement the prime minister wouldn‘t leave to her home secretary, she personally pledged that free movement would end after brexit. it's the biggest shake—up in the immigration system for a generation, in future skills matter more than nationality when people want to come to britain to earn a living. the policy we are announcing today, oui’ the policy we are announcing today, our future the policy we are announcing today, ourfuture immigration the policy we are announcing today, our future immigration policy, delivers on the referendum and takes back control of our borders. it ensures that free movement comes to an end once and for all, we will be
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deciding who can come into the country. so what would the new system looked like? workers would need a minimum salary officer, and can only bring in close family members of sponsored by an employer. they would be exemptions for low skilled workers such as agricultural employees. they would be a light touch system for short stays for business travellers and tourists. labour say the system is unfair as it prioritises how is over much—needed nurses. some leaders were less critical.m was great to see some more detail, but there are concerns, like the hospitality sector who rely on low skilled workers. he got to look at salary threshold is, why is it so highly? and things like the immigration surcharge which is small business won't be able to afford. the official message was that it would be about immigration and integration, but then the invasion, not on the official agenda, the
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former foreign secretary breezed in, and didn‘t praise theresa may, but he didn‘t exactly come to bury her either. he wanted to change her policy, rather than her leadership. if we bottled brexit now, believe me, the people of this country would find it hard to begin. if we get it wrong now proceed with this undemocratic solution and remain half in, half out, we protract this toxic, tedious business that is so off—putting to sensible, middle—of—the—road people who want us middle—of—the—road people who want us to stop talking about europe and get on with domestic priorities. as we should be. raising speculation that the extent of this ambition he broadened his ambition beyond brexit and urged his party to build more homes, cut taxes, and be a bit more conservative. we must, on no account, follow
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corbin and start to try to treat capitalism with a kind of blue word. we cannot lose our faith in competition, choice, and markets. but we should restate the truth, that there is simply no other system that there is simply no other system thatis that there is simply no other system that is so miraculously successful in satisfying human wants and needs. we should set our taxes at the optimum rate to stimulator investment and growth, and not be co nsta ntly investment and growth, and not be constantly aiming to increase, rather cut taxes. his intervention wasn‘t universally welcomed. is that a leader in well rating? absolutely not. it's refreshing to hear someone absolutely not. it's refreshing to hear someone say absolutely not. it's refreshing to hear someone say something positive, although he it can be a bit dry, he has been a bit of comic relief, actually. the slogan at the conference is quite simply opportunity, but unity seems to be stretching things. opportunity, but unity seems to be stretching things. the prime minster has expressed her anger at the latest intervention from her former foreign
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secretary, not least on the question of the irish border, and the validity of her chequers plan. the prime minister spoke to our political editor laura kuenssberg. one thing we all know about boris is that he puts on a good show. what we have been doing, and what matters, is that what we focus on in terms of day—to—day lives, and what matters to them. in order to deliver on that plan you need the authority, you need the party behind you and parliament behind you, borisjohnson has come here today and trampled all over that. you must be crossed, how can you put up with it? there are one or two things that boris said that i am cross about, he wa nts to boris said that i am cross about, he wants to guarantee a typical tear about guaranteed the people of northern ireland. he and i are,
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members of the conservative and unionist party because we believe in the union of the united kingdom. northern ireland is part of that union and we have a guarantee for the people of northern ireland, we are upholding that. the check is planned as that and is the only plan on the table at the moment that does. do you think boris johnson could ever be prime minister? i won‘t speculate or comment about jobs. your chancellor has. for individual members of parliament this isn‘t about the jobs but politicians do, it‘s about the jobs of people, and those out there in our country. you set out a new policy today, do you think ordinary people will feel a difference when they look at the country after your immigration policy has been put in? i think people will feel a difference, they will know that for the first time in decades it is the
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uk government deciding who can come into the country, because we will be bringing an end to free movement, once and for all. we will be able to decide the basis on which people come to the uk. that hasn‘t been possible for many years for people coming from the eu, that will change. there will be discussions about the mobility partnerships, where specific cases, there may be accessed to the uk for various groups of workers. can you put a number, a limit, on the number of people who might be able to come in through those kind of arrangements? if you can‘t how is that taking back control? agreements will have an element of this mobility. it‘s not about people coming to the uk long—term to work, that‘s covered by immigration rules. what mobility arrangements are about as things like short—term business visitors, ensuring that they are able to move,
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on the basis that makes sense for both sides in that situation. that‘s common sense. we aren‘t talking about preferential treatment for the eu, or another country, we are talking about these being elements of any trade agreement that we do. that was the prime minister speaking to our political editor at the party conference in birmingham. she announced a policy today setting out more rules on the prospect for immigration after brexit happens. with that in mind let‘s go live to the conference and speak to our chief political correspondent. let‘s start an immigration policy, and the kind of detailed the prime minister gave us today and and the response they? i think the crucial thing for theresa may and the home secretary is that they can stand up at this conference and say, freedom of movement will end. honestly, as you
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can imagine, that goes down very well here. but immediately you have the cries from the business community saying, well, that‘s all very well, but we do need low skilled workers as well. there will be gaps in thejob market skilled workers as well. there will be gaps in the job market for lots of areas on the british economy. they are very concerned about that. they are very concerned about that. the other thing is that any new system, they talked about a fast—track system for tourists and business people, that it works. they don‘t have the confidence that the home office will be able to get that or brand running quickly enough. it's or brand running quickly enough. it‘s still a pretty difficult issue, i think, for the government. the bigger picture here on brexit as well, there is a sense that at this very crucial time for theresa may, all sorts of speculation about whether she will come up with a new offer to brussels. i‘ve been speaking to several conservative mps, some of those on the remain side of the went to have been called
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into number ten and asked how they would feel about a customs union arrangement, the uk staying in beyond the transition period. would they vote for it? it‘s clear that something is being looked at by downing street to try and break the impasse which there seems to be at the moment with brussels. there was undisguised irritation from the prime minister when she was asked about borisjohnson‘s intervention, not least the state of the chequers plan and the plans for northern ireland. what did you make of that? i think boris johnson, parachuting in for a few hours, you can see from the pictures earlier the impact he has. he is able to have hundreds of people queueing around the block to get into a room when most of the times 30 or a0 people are locked away in a conference room. he lifts the room, inspires people and brings optimism,
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something that some say theresa may hasn‘t been able to do. yet, for all the love that they‘ve is for him amongst the grassroots, there are many who still feel that, you know, what is his plan? when he challenged the prime minister? what is he up to hear? is hejust reminding the grassroots he around ? hear? is hejust reminding the grassroots he around? some have been very critical, especially those in the cabinet. this was just one comment from the scottish secretary. people are concerned about mr johnson's behaviour. we are at a critical point in the negotiations for exiting the eu, i think it's important that everybody across the political spectrum comes together to back the prime minister in her attempt to get a deal that allows us to exit the eu on the best possible terms. mrjohnson to exit the eu on the best possible terms. mr johnson seems to exit the eu on the best possible terms. mrjohnson seems to behave in a way that suggests he is only focused on his own self—interest, not on the interest of the country. i find that very disappointing. and
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another cabinet minister told me that some people just had to get over their own sense of self—importance. another cabinet member told me that everyone has strengths and weaknesses, or is‘s strengths and weaknesses, or is‘s strength is that he can inspire people in that way and get the crowds clapping. they say theresa may has other strengths, the detail, the tenacity to actually get the kind of deal they feel the uk needs in brussels. many thanks again. we have more on this later, for now, thank you very much. more than 1,300 people are now known to have died in the earthquake and tsunami that hit indonesia on friday. more people have been pulled alive from the rubble in the past few hours, but it‘s feared the number of deaths will rise as rescuers reach remote areas. survivors are growing increasingly desperate for aid supplies, and there are reports of looting. after days trapped in the ruins,
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this man is pulled out alive and given much—needed medical care. throughout the night and day teams are working to free those they can. in another successful search and rescue operation, this woman is pulled from her home. mostly, it‘s about recovering bodies. after this amount of time the body‘s ability to endure is minimal. those that survived the earthquake and tsunami are having to endure another day without power and limited drinking water. we are going to be hungry, of course, and we are going to get much disease. so we hope our government
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to ca re disease. so we hope our government to care about that. yes? with medical supplies running out, the injured are desperate to get out. under difficult circumstances most people are being incredibly calm. others are taking matters into their own hands. police here are outnumbered. the relief convoys that finally made their way into the city are now being escorted by soldiers and police. many areas haven‘t received any outside help, and people are desperate. as you heard in rebecca‘s piece, the injured are desperately trying to flee the areas affected. hywel griffith sent this report from makassar — where the casualties are being transported. this air bases at the centre of the relief effort. people been airlifted to hear from palu, one of the worst hit areas, and the survivor stories are really quite dramatic. some of the people telling us
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they had to run from the water from the tsunami, rushing from the sea, but ended up running towards mudslides. some people were able to grab what they have and were airlifted out. they‘ve left behind relatives they fear have perished. the aircraft landing gear, military herculesjets, they‘re bringing people in, but they are taking supplies back out. so we have seen supplies of food and medical supplies being taken to areas like palu, where there a desperate need and a fear of looting. indonesian government has had to concede the emergency response so far hasn‘t been enough on its call. it‘s been calling on the offers of help from international partners. that was our correspondent reporting from indonesia. these are the headlines on the bbc. the prime minister outlines new rules on
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immigration after brexit, eu citizens wanting to work in the uk will be treated the same as migrants from around the world. borisjohnson told a packed fringe meeting that the chequers plan is eight constitutional outrage. rescue teams in indonesia are reaching some of the worst areas affected, at least 1300 people have died. and in sport... manchester city are back in champions league action for their second group stage clash. they‘re away to hoffenheim with pep guariola looking to bounce back from their 2—1 defeat to lyon last month. the las vegas metropolitan police department has reopened an investigation into a report of the alleged rape of a woman, who says she was attacked by the five time world footballer of the year cristiano ronaldo. and all change at bbc sports personality of the year ahead of the ceremony‘s return to birmingham in december. the names of the nominees won‘t be released until the night itself with fewer names on the shortlist. i‘ll be back with more on those stories. heterosexual couples
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are to be allowed to enter into civil partnerships in england and wales, as an alternative to marriage. the government has announced it will change the law to extend civil partnerships, which were introduced for same sex couples in 200a,to all adults. rebecca steinfeld and charles keidan, a couple from london, brought a legal challenge to be allowed to have a civil partnership, and they gave the bbc their reaction to today‘s announcement. we are delighted with this wonderful news from the government today, and we thank the prime minister and the minister for women and equalities for finally announcing that they are committed to ending the current situation and the inequality, and opening civil partnerships to everybody, so that couples like charlie and myself can finally formalised our relationship in a way that we see fit, and have the legal recognition and the financial protections that we seek. as we‘ve been hearing,
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in a speech ahead of her address to the conservative party conference theresa may has said that low—skilled migration will fall when the uk leaves the eu. the prime minister said that high—skilled workers would be prioritised with no preferential treatment for people from the eu compared with those from the rest of the world but said a future trade deal with the eu could include an agreement on "mobility" of each other‘s workers. our reality check correspondent, chris morris, is with me to explain... first of all, what has been proposed today? a lot of this comes from a reporter couple of weeks ago from the migration advisory committee who we re the migration advisory committee who were asked to propose a template for a policy after brexit. the high
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skill versus low skill is probably the biggest single thing that we need to focus on, they are saying that we want to encourage high skilled workers to come. low skilled workers, one of the problems their lives how do you define a low skilled worker? the definition appears to be people earning below £31,000. that takes a lot of people who work in the nhs, hospitality and construction industries. people are saying, look, we don‘t have enough people in this country to fill all of these positions we have, the government has said they will almost certainly introduce a new seasonal agricultural workers scheme, so fruit pickers, people will be able to come in from places like bulgaria and romania, pick fruit for six months and go back then to fill these shortages. other parts are saying this is going to be a problem for us to. it‘s very well saying you can train british workers but there aren‘t the workers there to fill those positions. if you can‘t fill
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the positions the economy gets smaller. are we saying that according to the rules they will be absolutely no difference in the way that workers from the eu were treated to the rest of the world‘s? that‘s the theory, that‘s what she says. eu workers will have no preference, but the government, also, it‘s going to say they will be preferential access in certain ways for countries we do free trade deals with in the future. if the closest year we wa nt with in the future. if the closest year we want to do in the future is with the european union, it stands to reason that the most preferential access will be for people from the european union. the prime minister argues that doesn‘t mean these people will stay here forever. it could mean, maybe, a lower threshold ona could mean, maybe, a lower threshold on a visa or salary threshold. that‘s a possibility. or there are things like use in reality schemes, a lot of australians, and work in london and other cities, in bars and
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so forth. australians, new zealanders, japanese people can come here between the ages of 18 and 30 and live for up to two years before they have to leave again. will there bea they have to leave again. will there be a scheme like that for eu citizens? a lot of people in the eu will be watching this very closely, not depends on what happens to people coming here and people going in the other direction. there are concerns about british citizens and the way they can move around? this is something we need to emphasise, there‘s a lot of talk about taking back control of our borders, but free movement is coming to an end for european citizens coming to the uk, but it also means free movement and is for uk citizens in the eu. that‘s when the preferential access become something of a concern for people here as well. if you are a 20—year—old who wants to work on a beach bar in portugalfor the summer, you‘ll probably want to know that you will have preferential reasons to get thatjob before
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someone reasons to get thatjob before someone coming from argentina or chilly. these are the sort of negotiations take place in the future. obviously, they matter to people here, as well as those who wa nt to people here, as well as those who want to come from elsewhere in europe. that was chris morris from reality check team. let‘s go to the conservative conference in birmingham and talk tojill rutter, programme director from the independent think tank the institute for government. it's it‘s good to have you with us. thank you forjoining us. what is your take—out from the prime minister‘s set of rules as she explained today? i think we‘ve still got to see the detail that she‘s got to give, we are promised a white paper in the autumn, as chris said, this is broadly following the conclusions of the migration advisory committee, they were put out two weeks ago. so it‘s not a big surprise, but i think what would be really interesting is
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to see, particularly the lobbying we are about to start on the government from businesses, while actually very, very worried about facing a much more new aquatic and expensive system to get workers in, and being told some of their roots to bringing the labour they need in being shut off. one of very interesting things, i was with the former home secretary, amber rudd, and she said that the cabinet is in favour of reducing migration, but they want a ca rd vote reducing migration, but they want a card vote for their sector, be it nhs, agriculture, construction workers, so we will see a lot of lobbying to get quite a lot of exemptions from this. or quite a long transition. other people have been saying we can‘t replace these workers straightaway. we will need time to train up british workers to do thesejobs. time to train up british workers to do these jobs. tell us more about the level of concern amongst parts of business, because i‘m just
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wondering how successful, or otherwise, has lobbying been so far? so far, clearly, what‘s been successful, people have been worried about tariffs, so people at the high—end, people in the city, research scientists, the government is very happy to have in the best of the brightest. but they are basically turning a deaf aid to people who say we have a real problem with the low end of the labour market. we call them low skilled, but as chris made clear, they basically, low paid workers. the government is really saying, we are arguing that might depress wages are arguing that might depress wages a bit, but, you know, today we are saying, what will i do, i‘m in a company which has a% unemployment, there are people ready to take those jobs. one of the answers is, can you
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invest, mechanise, as the prime minister was saying, that‘s one way to go. another might be to put up wages, that‘s an option if you want to do that. but some sectors will be under particularly hard pressure. one thing the committee said a couple of weeks ago was that the public sector shouldn‘t get special treatment. once at the most affected by this change is potentially the social care sector, we know that is already a problem with lack of resources . already a problem with lack of resources. if it‘s going to face a big supply constraints on people coming in that‘s going to be difficult. the migration advisory committee says one of the effects of a immigration into the uk from the eec was to keep personal service costs down. if you send that flow, the logical consequence is that those costs go up. to shed a little more light on another point, you touched on it as well, if there is a
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free—trade deal with the geographically closest partners in europe, following brexit, all of these rules will be seen in a different context, one day? therefore the preference difference we are talking about will not quite be seen in the same way. it's really interesting to think about how strong a bargaining power bases for the uk in those deals. at the moment we‘ve got a position where we‘ve actually got quite good guarantees for the citizens if we get a withdrawal agreement. the eu is refusing at the moment to discuss or concede that uk citizens who live in eu countries now should be able to move to other countries after brexit. that‘s got to be discussed. it's brexit. that‘s got to be discussed. it‘s not clear, i think it‘s quite interesting, how much of a selling point is to other countries. we will have your talents come here, it‘s difficult tojudge if have your talents come here, it‘s difficult to judge if that‘s something the uk will be able to trade as a concession for something
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else with other eu countries. will there be an appetite? there may be an appetite for a bilateral agreement, he scheme for use, we know a lot of students in eu countries are quite keen to continue the rasmus programme, to allow student exchange, they are keen to have the opportunity to come and work in the uk and improve their english. so that‘s a potential source of labour at the low end. they can man bars alongside australians and new zealanders. we could do that. it‘s also clear that actually, in the last couple of yea rs, actually, in the last couple of years, migration from the eu has fallen back quite considerably, partly because of the devaluation of sterling, partly because of the perception that we aren‘t the open country people thought we were, a bit of hostility towards the eu. that‘s already declined quite dramatically. that‘s one reason,
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really interestingly, the scheme for agricultural workers, we can‘t get enough bulgarians and romanians to come here under the current eu scheme. that‘s why they have had to open upa scheme. that‘s why they have had to open up a new scheme for non—eu people to come and feel that emerging gap. it‘s really interesting to see how that will play out going forward. banks very much, as ever. for the first time in over half a century the nobel prize for physics has been awarded to a woman. she receives the award with two male colleagues. (00v) donna strickland was recognised for her ground—breaking work in the field of laser physics. dr strickland‘s recognition comes after a senior scientist, professor alessandro strumia, was suspended for saying physics ‘was invented and built by men‘. blue plaques have been have been around for more than 150 years, making it one of the oldest schemes of its kind. but now the chairman of an organisation that puts up the plaques says
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there are far too many of them and that some memorials had only a tenuous link to the person they honoured. our correspondent duncan kennedy has the story. it's it‘s like a fool is who, in blue. the plaques that takes pride of place across britain. but are there too many of them? and are they all valid? take the hobbit author, jr tolkien, there is a plaque for him. one night at this birmingham hotel. charles dickens is on about 50 blue plaques. mike reid, the former radio one dj is head of the trust, and believes they may be becoming a little devalued. i remember another one that almost as this house is very old. i thought, we‘ve got a lot of houses that are very old. you‘ve got to be careful, and very
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selective. just how many of these blue plaques are there? in windsor alone there are 2a, with everyone from the bridge designer charles wallace to the less well—known fred says vince, a local man who decided to make a perfect windsor. around 900 of these plaques exist in britain today. there are three main types of blue plaques, including english heritage. when you hear that charles dickens has about 50... english heritage. when you hear that charles dickens has about 50. .. it's ridiculous. i'm on a blue plaque. i was part of a band ridiculous. i'm on a blue plaque. i was part ofa band in ridiculous. i'm on a blue plaque. i was part of a band in the 1960s. don‘t believe him ? was part of a band in the 1960s. don‘t believe him? here‘s the proof. good living or not, blue, white, they seem to have created their own mini warof the they seem to have created their own mini war of the walls. we will have the headlines in the moment, but let‘s ta ke the headlines in the moment, but let‘s take a look at the weather.
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some sunshine today across scotland, northern and eastern england, quite large amounts of cloud. that‘s starting to get nibbled away. you can see some spells of late afternoon sunshine. still some southern cloud across northern parts of wales. we tend to hang onto that overnight. some gusty winds for a time, particularly across northern anne western scotland. clear skies are slowly replaced by some cloud across the south and west. some outbreaks of rain in the western isles of scotland. he drying out, temperatures between six and 12 celsius. he touch of frost and clearer skies. this band of cloud works eastwards, away from the far north, most have a dry day. another quite cloudy day but some bright sunny spells. it will feel miles, if not warm with temperatures up to 19
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celsius. lighter winds tomorrow. time is 5:33. this is bbc news. the headlines. theresa may sets out her plans for controlling immigration after brexit — the prime minister tells the bbc her system will focus on the skills people have — not where they are from. we will be able to decide the basis on which people come to the uk. that hasn‘t been possible for many years, for people coming
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from the eu, that will change. borisjohnson uses a fringe event at conference to criticise the prime minister‘s brexit plan — calling it a "cheat". the prime minister hits back saying she‘s cross at "one or two things" he said. the number known to have died following an earthquake and tsunami in indonesia rises to more than 1300 — as rescue worker arrive in the worst affected areas. 5:3apm. let‘s catch up with all the day‘s sport. 5:3apm. let‘s catch up with all the day's sport. sergio aguero has ove rco m e day's sport. sergio aguero has overcome a foot injury to star for manchester city as they go from their first champions league manchester city as they go from theirfirst champions league points of the season. they kick in about 20 minutes‘ time against hockenheim in germany. captain returns to the site
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. city were beaten by leon in their opening match a fortnight ago. manager that guardiola is not too worried. he says perhaps it is better that they have had some difficulties. last two seasons when i'm here we qualified quite comfortably. maybe you have to realise how complicated the competition, to suffer in the group states, to make a step forward in the knockout games. and if we are not able to do that, we are not good enough. manchester united are also in action. they face valencia at old trafford later this evening. our sports editor is there for us. dan, poor performances and poor relations. how important is this game forjose mourinho? it is hugely important. you‘ll get the impression that he is simply desperate for a win as is his club manchester
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united. they got off their champions league campaign this season with a winning start of course. they beat young boys is whistling. since then they have lately and failed to win any, not that of the carabao cup by derby of course. and they‘ve been taking fashion by west ham united. the pressure really is mounting now. you get the sense that the point of no return for manchester united‘s hierarchy is not that far off. if results do not soon began to turn around. it has not made any easier this evening against the valencia although they are in poor form, this evening against the valencia although they are in poorform, the site, i defect that united will be missing jesse lingard, ashley young and herrera through injury. their office as well, jose mourinho‘s relationship with his players appears to be at an all—time low. in his press conference yesterday he admitted that some players care more than others. those well—publicized bats with the likes of paul pogba and alexi sanchez as well, they have not helped. so the pressure really is on. but a win here this evening
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andi is on. but a win here this evening and i think perhaps mourinho could use that as he looks forward to be next premier league match. it is really important and against newcastle united here at you we can. but if he loses, his problems will become critical. dan, thank you. that is our sports editor at old trafford for us. and las vegas metropolitan police department has reopened an investigation into the reported alleged rape of a woman. she said she was attacked a cristiano ronaldo. here‘s richard conway. an american woman lames that cristiano ronaldo raped her in a hotel room in las vegas in 2009. he has dismissed the claims reported firstly by a german publication as "fake news" and his representatives say they are going to take legal action against the magazine. the magazine to a report was filed with the luck as they gave police the day after the alleged crime, but the victim did not provide a location or deface the discretion of the suspect. in 2010 catherine
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reportedly reached an out—of—court settle m e nt reportedly reached an out—of—court settlement with ronaldo per £288,000, and that was an agreement for not going public with the allegations. her lawyers are now seeking to overturn that nondisclosure agreement. last night las vegas police said they have reopened a sexual assault investigation from 2009. they are said to be following up with information they have received from the victim. richard conway there. just to point your way to sports day at 6:30pm, we will have lots more details on the changes coming up to sports personality of the year. all the details with ali foster in sports day at 6:30pm. studio: thank you much. see you later on. the time is 5:38pm. health secretary matt hancock has announced an extra £2a0 million of funding for social care this winter. he told delegates at the conservative party conference earlier today that the funding would be used to free up hospital beds by helping older people get home more quickly when they‘re medically ready to leave.
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i can announce today that i‘m making an extra £2a0 million available to pay for social care packages this winter, to support our nhs. applause we'll use the money... we‘ll use the money to get people who don‘t need to be in hospital, but do need care back home, back in their communities, so we can free up those vital hospital beds and help people who really need to get the hospital care they deserve. but i know that money alone isn‘t enough. we need to make sure that money is well spent by reforming the nhs and the social care system, too, to make sure that it‘s always there for you and your family. so along with the nhs themselves, we‘re writing a long—term plan to guarantee its future. that was matt hancock, the house a
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secretary there. with me in the studio is simon bottery from the king‘s fund, a think tank specialising in health care policy. thanks for coming in. does this cast as an emergency bailout? it feels that way. and that begs a question which is that we have known about the causes of the extra demand on social care for decades. we have known that there are more older people than living longer and more disabled people living longer. so the question is why we are in a situation where we feel we need to give emergency cash for a problem we have known about so long. as a reason is a failure of foresight, a failure of policy, how would you read it? i think is a failure of successive governments to tackle this on a long—term basis. we have been unwilling to accept the long—term needs of social care, the extra funding that is required. so successive governments have ducked theissue successive governments have ducked the issue and we have another attempt with no more than a green pepper, which is already late and is due out at some stage this year. people listening love thing it is a
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quarter of a quarter of £1 billion. it isa quarter of a quarter of £1 billion. it is a lot of money and anyone‘s book. but what does it mean in terms of the scale of the problem? how big a plug is it? is certainly welcome. it will go some way towards filling the hole that exists for councils. but we estimate that simply to cope with the existing levels and demand we‘re going to need about an extra £1.5 billion by 2021. what this does is only focuses on one area of social care, which is the demand thatis social care, which is the demand that is coming out of hospitals, older people in particular. of course that is important. what are people should not be in hospitals if they don‘t need to be. but the bigger pressure, and even bigger pressure on social care is from working age people. particularly people with learning disabilities. that is the fastest growing area of span, but at the moment that is untouched by any of this money. where do you see the debate within government? is an organisation, you provide lots of research and thought on this, but where is the debate
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within government on the direction of policy here? or do you suspect, as we were told about other areas of government policy, that because of this huge focus on brexit at the moment it is draining away interest and focus on other areas, including this? it is very hard to know. there‘s certainly no excuse for not knowing what the fundamental issues are and actually looking at the range options for tackling them. he could start by looking at other countries that have successfully dealt with ease issues. and looking at whether their systems could be adopted in england. what is the best example? there is a range of options. we could look at scotland where they introduce free personal ca re where they introduce free personal care 20 years ago and are very happy with it as a system. we can look at your hand, germany, both of whom have introduced some sort of significant reform. as japan and germany. what the government needs to be doing is looking at the full range of options as they promised they would and save these are the ones that we think would work best for england. i am not at all
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convinced that that is going to happen though. why? i think there is a reluctance to look at the full—scale of the problem. a reluctance to look at the full-scale of the problem. just about cost? i think there is a significant issue with cost which is that no government wants to be saying we‘re going to be needing to spend more money on this. i think what you‘re having to tell the public is that the system is working very, very badly at the moment and we‘re going to need to spend more money, simply to keep it as it is and to improve it which is what people want, we‘re going to have to spend a few more. because we saw what happened at the last year when conservatives or theresa may before a policy in this area. it was not seen to be at all attractive electorally. what is the incentive for any politicians to come forward with similar areas of policy where there is a cost and a tax implication there? i think the incentive is that we cannot go on ignoring it for much longer. in the sorts of problems that are starting to exist, the difficulty in finding a workforce and social care for
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example, the scale of the problems that have been stacking up for yea rs, comes that have been stacking up for years, comes to a point where i think a government is going to have to do something and it may be that it is this government that needs to ta ke it is this government that needs to take that action. simon, good to talk to you. thank you very much for coming in. simon bottery at the kings fund. thank you for coming in to talk to us. it is 5:aapm. let‘s move on to some of the day‘s other news. the final funeral for a victim of the grenfell tower fire has taken place — more than a year after the fire which killed 72 people. raymond bernard, who was known as moses, was called a hero by his sister bernadette at the start of the public inquiry. he died sheltering 6 people in his top floor flat as they tried to escape the flames. our correspondent sophie long reports. # when you‘re weary...#. he was just a wonderful, inspirational man. not just to his family but also to his friends. he played such a huge role in my life, my children's lives, their children's lives. children within the community,
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people within the community. everybody loved him, everybody that came into contact with ray loved him. aka moses, of course. everyone calls him moses. # doooo #. a family and a community gathered at the base of grenfell tower to celebrate the life of raymond bernard. he came to london from trinidad at 15, he died here at 63, respected by so many in the community where he lived in the decades since. there was a long wait for this, the final farewell to the last of the fire‘s victims. a 72—second silence to remember each of those who died, and prayers for the survivors. ray was in his flat on the 23rd floor when
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the building began to burn. as people, petrified, fled from the flames, they were forced upwards. when they got to the top, they would have found raymond — or moses as he was known to them. knowing ray, he would have been very calm, because that was the person he was. i‘m sure he would have been extremely anxious, but he would not have allowed anybody to see that. i think his calmness would definitely have helped the others. we were out looking for him, just hoping he had got out. but it wasn‘t meant to be, so... the remains of 11 people were found in ray‘s flat. he, the coroner said, would have been the last to pass. today grenfell fire‘s final victim was laid to rest. tomorrow, the inquiry will start hearing evidence
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from those who survived, those who did make it out of the tower that night. sophie long, bbc news, north kensington. a man who murdered his eight—year—old daughter in an act of revenge against his ex—partner has beenjailed for a minimum of twe nty—seven yea rs. 55—year—old william billingham stabbed mylee to death with a kitchen knife at his home near walsall in january. judge paul farrer qc at brimingham crown court said billingham "killed mylee in order to cause pain to her mother". a budget airline that began offering long—haul flights from uk airports earlier this year, including sta nsted to the us, has collapsed. primera air said it was ceasing all operations at midnight on monday after fourteen years of operations —— leaving passengers stranded in airports around the world. the airline said it had failed to secure long—term financing, meaning it had "no choice" but to file for bankruptcy. a group of women has gone to the high court,
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to challenge surrey county council‘s proposed cut to its special needs and disability budget. the women are all parents to disabled children, and theirjudicial review contends that they should have been consulted on the planned £21 million cuts. surrey county council says its focus is to make sure children get the support they need. lauren moss reports. taking the fight for their children‘s education to the high court. these parents are challenging surrey county council plans to cut £21 million from its special educational needs budget. plans they say will hit theirfamilies hard. children who need support like speech and language therapy in school, who need one—to—one learning support assistants just in order to be at school, to access and education. and that kind of support is really essential for our children to develop their skills, their communication, to achieve their potential in life. how many people here have been to tribunal once? sarah‘s not alone. and twice?
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alicia mccoll‘s1a—year—old son kian has autism, adhd and speech and language difficulties. he goes to a specialist school, but they say they‘re not sure what will happen. just taking away a child‘s future, kind of, because it‘s taking away the opportunity to give them support and things to actually help them learn. potentially, if they cut budgets we could lose speech and language, we could lose occupational therapy just like anybody else could. but the biggest thing for me would be transport. if he lost his transport, i would have to give up myjob because i'm a single parent. catriona ferris‘s15—year—old son dominic has asperger‘s and needs support at school with severe anxiety. he is preparing to sit his gcses next year and says those who have made the funding decision don‘t realise the consequences. if they went round my school or any schools that receive sen funding, and they saw the help that the kids get and what that help would be like if they didn‘t have it, then realistically they wouldn‘t be
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looking at trying that because it just doesn‘t logistically work—out. thejudicial review will look at the legality of surrey county council‘s plans to make these savings. the parents, who crowd funded to pay for their representation, are arguing that they weren‘t consulted and that the council didn‘t examine the impacts the cuts would have. chanting. it comes after parents in bristol won a legal challenge there against the authority‘s decision to cut £5 million from the special needs budget. we are asking the court to quash this decision, which would mean it would be as if the decision had never been taken and the cuts would have to be reinstated. surrey could go on to consult in the future and look at making the decision again, but we would be hopeful that if there was proper consultation and surrey looked at the impact this sort of decision would have, then they would think again. surrey county council needs to make significant savings,
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and in a statement the authority says it is defending itself but the main focus is making sure children get the support they need. the high court hearing will conclude tomorrow. lauren moss, bbc news. since the start of august, 70 deep—water whales have washed up dead on scottish and irish beaches. many of the animals were cuvier‘s beaked whales — deep divers — which are normally found far out in the atlantic ocean. researchers have been trying to work out what caused their deaths. one theory is that military activity and sonar signals in the atlantic may have played a part. our scotland correspondent lorna gordon reports from tiree in the innes hebrides. the islands along scotland‘s west coast have become a graveyard for cuvier‘s bea ked whales. in one month, more washed ashore here than in the previous ten years combined.
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and scientists are trying to work out why they died. it‘s not a natural occurrence. is it concerning what has happened? it‘s very concerning. very, very concerning. it is possibly the highest ever mortality, as a recorded mortality for this particular whale species, ever, anywhere in the world. cuvier‘s bea ked whales are creatures of the deep. they can dive to depths of almost 10,000 feet. research has shown they are sensitive to sound. after a spate of strandings in the canary islands, the use of sonar close to land there was a banned. since then, they have seen no bodies. those involved in the investigations here will be scanning ear bones taken from the remains to look for trauma caused by excess by excess underwater sound. they‘re also looking at samples to rule out infectious diseases or contaminants. these whales have already been dead for several weeks by the time their bodies reach land.
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but the fact they washed ashore in such a short period of time points to the possibility that a single event caused their deaths, hundreds of miles out into the atlantic. so could underwater noise or sonar be the cause? when groups of beaked whales strand across tens of kilometres of coastline within a few hours, that been associated with naval and submarine warfare exercises. it appears that the sonar that they use to hunt for submarines triggers a panic reaction, then may disrupt their diving so they get decompression sickness. they then died out at sea and they washed ashore. the british military have been asked to help at tracking down any source of noise in the ocean around the time of the animals deaths. the problem that we have is that they can only report on what they have been doing, they are not responsible or for that matter even have the information about what has been going on by other agencies within nato.
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the royal navy says it is takes its possibilities in safeguarding the environment very seriously. and when possible, operators take avoidance action should animals be detected before or during sonar operations. there is increasing awareness of the effect plastic has on marine life. it‘s possible there may soon be proof that noise pollution in our waters can be deadly, too. lorna gordon, bbc news, tiree. the winner of the royal institute of british architects‘ most prestigious award, the riba stirling prize, will be announced next week, and the nominations to become britain‘s best new building 2018 include a student housing development, a cemetery, and a nursery school. we‘ll look at each building in the shortlist over the next few days. today it‘s the bloomberg building, by foster + partners, a highly—innovative new workplace in the city of london. bloomberg is a globalfinancial information company. in 2008, we realised
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we were running out of space. our population in london was growing dramatically and so we commissioned ourown building. the building is thought to be the largest stone project in the city of london since st paul‘s cathedral. mike bloomberg felt very strongly that he wanted the outside and the interior to be completely contrasting, so the outside would be restrained and elegant and the interior would be dynamic and open. unlike most offices, instead of a big central core with all of the elevator and staircases, we pushed them to the outside and actually made the people the core of the building. when you first control building, you will come to our discreet entrance, through which you will flow into the vortex, take the glass lift up to the sixth floor and come out in the pantry, which is the heart of all of our bloomberg buildings. and particularly here, where you get a stunning
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view of saint pauls. and then they can flow through this on an architectural masterpiece ramp. foster is really think outside the box. they were really creative in responding to our functional business needs. we developed the multifunctional ceiling. it's it‘s made from two and a half million polished aluminium metals and aluminium lights. —— led lights. it deals with the acoustics and delivers cooling and also reflects the light around the space. i am really proud to work for a company that has invested so much in our working environment. it really embodies the spirit of transparency, collaboration, innovation, that is so fundamental to bloomberg's ethos. well, that was pretty impressive. you can find out more about all of the nominated buildings on the bbc arts website and watch this year‘s riba stirling prize live here on the bbc news channel next wednesday evening between 8:30 and 9:00.
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stay with us for all of that. the time is 5:57pm. i will be back at 10pm. time for a look at the weather here‘s alina jenkins with the forecast. thank you. some of us had to be a bit patient today for the sunshine. finally it is coming to her. a fair amount of cloud through the day but it is starting to thin and break in ba rling. it is starting to thin and break in barling. not so across southwest wales, got off that the bass cloud all afternoon and patchy drizzle. this was a short while ago. the reason for all of this cloud is the fairly wea k reason for all of this cloud is the fairly weak front draped across the country today. from the north we‘ve had sunshine, but also squeezing isobars to the south and west overseeing the clock. this is the earlier satellite picture. you can see the cloud is starting to thin and break. we have had a lot of cloud earlier. still some strong winds for a time through this evening, particularly across northern and western scotland. still
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because the a0—15 miles an hour. average speeds to this evening, and a mild into the day. we have seen temperatures up to 21 celsius in the sunshine in london through this afternoon. did this evening, some clear skies for a time. likely to hang onto that cloud to parts of wales. as the night goes on more cloud which will start to arrive from the south and the west. clear skies disappearing, but across northeastern parts of scotland you could see a touch of frost as temperatures get close to freezing. those are starting to rise as the night wears on, and that cloud continues to build. once again we see quite a lot of cloud for tomorrow, brightness across england and wales before the cloud tends to fill in. it will be thick enough to bring some outbreaks of rain into scotla nd bring some outbreaks of rain into scotland and northwest did about the cloud will send an break. we will see bright and sunny spells. the winds will not be as strong as they we re winds will not be as strong as they were today particularly across northern and western scotland. still a fairly decent breeze blowing here, but we will have lost the stronger
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gusts. tomorrow we get sunshine. wouldn‘t be surprised if someone gets 20 or 21 again. we see best of the sunshine across east anglia and southeast england. died our eyes are turned to the cold front starting to work its way across gotland in northern ireland picking up as well. we will see a more persistent spell of rain on thursday. maybe down into northern england through the afternoon. for most away from here you will be dry, there will be some sunshine again. temperatures up to 19 or 20 celsius, still for a time holding onto the warm. for friday would like to winds will see dan spectre is a fraud and it turns a bit of settled as we head into saturday. wet and windy for a time turning drier as we turn to sunday. the prime minister says former foreign secretary borisjohnson
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makes her cross after he launches a scathing attack on her chequers plan for leaving the european union. addressing a fringe event at the tory party conference, the former foreign secretary called the prime minister‘s plan dangerous and a cheat. this is the moment to do that, and there is time. this is the moment to chuck chequers. applause and cheering audience members shout, "chuck chequers" but the prime minister dismissed his criticism — though admitted some of what he said had annoyed her. there‘s one thing we all know about boris is that he‘ll put on a good show. but what we‘ve been doing here at conference, of course, and i think what matters to people out there, is what the government does and what we focus on in terms of their day—to—day lives. theresa may also unveiled plans for post brexit immigration rules meaning an end to the free movement of people from the eu.
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