tv Victoria Derbyshire BBC News October 4, 2018 9:00am-11:01am BST
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hello. it's thursday. it's 9 o'clock. i'm victoria derbyshire. welcome to the programme. this programme can exclusively reveal that a second british woman has died after having so—called brazilian butt lift surgery. we'll talk to other women who've had it and find out what went wrong. i got admitted to hospitalforfive days and ended up on iv and biotics. luckily one of them work for me. for the first few days nothing was working. my infection was getting worse and worse. i know other girls wear the antibiotics didn't even work for them so they ended up with really bad infection wounds. the procedure has the highest death rate of all cosmetic surgery. you can watch our exclusive film at 9.15. the former teacher who's accused footballer cristiano ronaldo of raping her in 2009 says she was inspired to speak out by the #metoo movement, according to her lawyer. the #metoo movement and the women who have stood up and disclosed
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sexual assault publicly has given kathryn a lot of courage and has to a great extent enabled her to come forward. ronaldo has firmly denied the alleged assault. we'll get the latest from that news conference overnight. and how much screen time is too much for toddlers? new research suggests under 5s are watching stuff online and on tv for on average 3 hours a day and more than half now have their own smartphone or tablet. we'll talk to dads, mums, children and experts about the effects and find out how much screen time young children should be allowed. we wa nt
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we want to know how much screen time you allow fior under fives, your primary schoolchildren and your teenagers. and have you had surgery to enhance your backside and if so how did it go? if you have had a so—called brazilian butt lift, the most risky kind of cosmetic surgery you can have, if you have had such a procedure, please let me know and why and how it has gone of course. send us an email, anonymously if you prefer. if you are happy to come on the programme and you are happy to put your phone number in the email, we can contact you. our main news this morning: this programme has discovered that a second british woman has died after having brazilian butt lift surgery abroad. ealier this year a 29—year—old woman from leeds reportedly died after travelling
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to turkey to undergo the surgery. the procedure, which is used to make buttocks look bigger by injecting fat transferred from other parts of the body, has a mortality rate ofi in 3000, making it the most dangerous of all cosmetic procedures. if the fat is injected into the vein, it can go into the circulation, through the hard, into the lungs, and cause a fat embolus, which is the bit of fat getting lodged either in the heart or the lungs, and that can cause death. you can see our full film on the programme in about ten minutes. now anita mcveigh has the rest of the news. the british government has accused russian military intelligence of carrying out a series of major cyber attacks around the world. it claims the hackers have targeted political institutions, businesses, media and sport. sir bradley wiggins was among the athletes whose files were stolen during one attack on the world anti—doping agency. ben ando reports. in canada, private medical data
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relating to athletes like sir bradley wiggins is stolen and published. in ukraine, there is airport chaos in odessa, and disruption on the metro in kiev. in the run—up to the us presidential elections in 2016, confidential democratic party committee messages are published. and for a year a british tv network's private emails are monitored. hacker groups with names like fancy bear were blamed. now the uk's national cyber security centre says they are all russian military intelligence, the gru. foreign secretaryjeremy hunt says they were reckless and indiscriminate, adding "together with our allies we will expose and respond to the gru's attempts to undermine international stability". the national cyber security centre says it is highly confident the gru was almost certainly responsible for these attacks and others too. but what does the uk gain by making this public? some suggest that in the murky world of espionage and counter espionage,
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shining a bright light on this is a useful tactic. as an individual, you might be caught up in this. it is an ongoing conflict and you are not immune from it. the more obvious and urgent effect that people need to be aware of is the services they use, essential services, are at risk and are actively being targeted for sabotage. moscow is yet to respond, but when the battlefield is the worldwide web, anyone online could be on the front line. ben ando, bbc news. the defence secretary gavin williamson is at a nato meeting in brussels. he said britain would continue to expose cyber attacks carried out by russia. we've seen a pattern of behaviour from russia. we see it in georgia, we've seen it in ukraine, we see in the use of cyber attacks and of course the united kingdom we've seen the use of nerve agents in salisbury. what you have seen is britain stepping up to the mark. and oui’ britain stepping up to the mark. and our allies have with the expulsion
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of russian diplomats. we are going to be clear, where russia acts in an indiscriminate and reckless way, where they have done in terms of these cyber attacks, we will be exposing them. the chief executive of royal bank of scotland, ross mcewan, has warned a no—deal brexit could tip the uk economy into recession. he told the bbc a bad brexit could result in zero or negative economic growth which would hit rbs‘s share price. he also said the bank was becoming careful about lending to certain sectors of the economy, particularly retail and construction. british aid charities are appealing for emergency funds to help survivors of the earthquake and tsunami in indonesia. at least moo people are known to have been killed in last friday's disaster, but officials expect the number to rise. the disasters emergency committee says 200,000 people need clean water, food and medical care. 0ur correspondent mariko 0i is in the city of palu, which was badly damaged by the tsunami, and sent us this report. the government has set friday
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as the deadline to look for any more survivors and there are many more places they haven't actually managed to reach. for example, there is a shopping mall, where we have been broadcasting from for the past several days, they only managed to get that heavy machinery in last night. when they started clearing the rubble, immediately afterward they found one body. of course, the earthquake hit at 5pm on friday, when many people would have been shopping. there are fears that many more bodies could be found. that's why the authorities continue to warn that the official death toll is expected to rise. but while we continue to talk about tragedies and how many challenges aid agencies have been facing, i also want to talk about the resilience of the city. people for example today have started selling food on the street and even though they have been
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struggling for days to get hold of food and water, as soon as they got some they were generous enough to start offering some to us as well. also, while this building might have collapsed, if you look at this side of the city, for example, all these buildings are quite 0k. and on the same street there are many houses as well as buildings which actually withstood the earthquake. that really goes to show that while the earthquake of course did a lot of damage, it was really the tsunami which killed many of the victims. mariko 0i reporting. the lawyer representing a woman who says she was raped by cristiano ronaldo says the #metoo campaign inspired her to come forward. kathryn mayorga says she was attacked by the footballer in a las vegas hotel room nine years ago, something he firmly denies. officials in the us state of south carolina say one police officer was shot dead and six others injured after they confronted a man
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holding children hostage at a home in the city of florence. the attacker surrendered to police after a two—hour standoff and was taken into custody. his identity and motive remain unclear. emergency officials warned locals to stay away from the area. three out of four children under five years old now have their own tablet, smartphone or computer. figures from research group childwise suggests pre—school children are increasingly using the devices to watch online video, sometimes for up to three hours a day. here's our technology correspondent rory cellan—jones. what about this one? the round one? for decades, television has been a big feature in the lives of very young children, but now new technology is changing the way they view and what they see. this research shows that three quarters of under five year olds now have access to a connected devices such as a tablet or smartphone and half of all three and
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four—year—olds have their own one. what are they doing with them? playing games and watching a lot of video. childwise questioned 1000 parents of under—fives. they revealed that their children watch tv and online video for two hours and 48 minutes a day on average. cbeebies was still the most popular channel, with 63% watching. that is dropping as they turn to services like youtube, which was viewed by almost half of all preschool children. boys are watching for longer periods than girls. but overall viewing is on the rise. children are getting access to a wide range of programmes on everything from the disney channel to netflix. the research also found voice controlled gadgets such as amazon eco or apple's siri were in two thirds of preschool children's homes and they were using them to play nursery rhymes or ask questions, such as how big is the moon?" rory cellan—jones, bbc news. bbc dj mark radcliffe has announced
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he's taking time off from his radio 2 and 6 music shows to undergo treatment for mouth cancer. he told listeners about his diagnosis while presenting the folk show on wednesday evening. he says he hopes to be back on air in the new year. ubereats couriers and a small number of workers from jd wetherspoon, mcdonald's and tgi fridays are striking over pay today. walk—outs will be held in several uk cities, as well as at a rally in london. the industrial action is being taken in tandem with strikes by fast food workers on four continents. ubereats, jd wetherspoon and mcdonald's have all defended their record on pay. how's this for the ultimate toy car? a working bugatti made entirely of lego. the car, which is unveiled today at the paris auto show, is made of more than a million plastic pieces and weighs 1.5 tonnes. it comes complete with a working engine, also made of lego, which gives it a top speed of 18 miles per hour.
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i would love to see the instructions for that! quite a few books, i imagine. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. more at 9:30am. thank you. if you are getting in touch with us throughout the morning, you are very welcome. if you are texting, you are charged that the standard network rate. very interesting to hear how much screen time you allowed to europe preschool children, primary school children and teenagers. it is a nightmare for pa rents. and teenagers. it is a nightmare for parents. even if you are strict, it still causes friction, and i am not just talking from personal experience! how do you do it in your household? 54% experience! how do you do it in your household ? 54% of experience! how do you do it in your household? 54% of three and four—year—olds have their own device. really? wow! we will talk about that in the next half an hour so about that in the next half an hour so please send in your own experiences and how you manage it in your household. hugh ferris is that the bbc sport centre. spurs got a masterclass at wembley last night. they did. their champions league
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campaign is in a bit of a mess and last night that was because of lionel messi. they used to say that he couldn't do it against english teams, but after two goals in the 4-2 teams, but after two goals in the 11—2 win at wembley for barcelona, 22 and 29 games the lionel messi. he helped to set up barcelona's first two goals before coming close himself. he hit the same post twice infour himself. he hit the same post twice in four minutes. the spanish side have not won any of their last three games in the league but they were irresistible at spurs. harry kane pulled it back to 2—1. then up stepped lionel messi, making it 3—1, with a kiss for the camera and anyone interested in getting romantic, look at that. that was the post that he hit twice. he got inside that time. then he made it 4-2. both inside that time. then he made it 4—2. both goals thanks to some brilliant dummies from luis suarez as well, to show that he is the ultimate team player. and he wasn't even on the shortlist for the fifa world player of the year awards, so
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a little reminderfrom lionel messi as to how good he is. and liverpool also lost last night? yes, the bra kes also lost last night? yes, the brakes have come in liveable's season over the last week. they won their last seven games in all conditions but none of the last three. they conceded this 90th minute goal in italy. lorenzo insigne gave napoli their win. they face manchester city at the top of the premier league on sunday. also of concern is now located being taken to hospital with a back injury. -- taken to hospital with a back injury. —— nabil. he was stretchered off. and we have heard about the woman who lost her sight in her right eye after being hit by a golf ball. yes, corine remande was hit by brooks koepka's tee shot on friday afternoon. she has been blinded in one eye but she says that she could
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have been killed. brooks koepka said he is heartbroken about the whole affair. corine remande was alongside the fairway on the six hole in paris at the time and she doesn't blame the golfer for hitting the tee shot way left at the time. but she is angry, claiming that she didn't get angry, claiming that she didn't get a warning. i have nothing against the player. because i play golf and i know. i the player. because i play golf and i know. lam the player. because i play golf and i know. i am only angry against the marshall. because nobody came to see me and to take some news. one of the organising bodies for the ryder cup say that fore was shouted several times on that occasion, as is customary in golf. the ground regulations are on the tickets purchased by fans and they include acknowledgement that spectators know the risk at a golf event. the european tour says there was also
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contact with the family from the moment that the incident happened at the golf national. thank you. more throughout the morning. welcome to the programme. it is 9:15am. today's exclusive story: this programme has discovered a second british woman has died after having brazilian butt lift surgery abroad. the procedure involves injecting fat from one part of your body into your backside to lift it up and make it look like this. that is the aim, anyway. this kind of surgery has the highest death rate of all cosmetic procedures. one in 3000 people die having it. in august, 29—year—old leah cambridge from leeds died after undergoing such surgery at a clinic in turkey. now we've discovered that a second british woman, in her late 20s, lost her life after having a bbl at a different clinic this year. chi chi izundu has this exlusive report. and just to let you know,
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it contains images of post surgey complications. this is the love a lot of young women want, the kim kardashian look of arrays, perky round bottom. but those women feel the only to get that look is opting for surgery commonly called brazilian butt lift, otherwise known as the bbl. brazilian butt lift surgery has the highest death rate of all cosmetic procedures, due to the risk of injecting fat into large veins in the buttocks that can travel to the heart or brain and cause severe illness or death. in august, 29—year—old leah cambridge died after having a bbl procedure in turkey. now this programme has also learned of one other fatality of a british woman who has undergone bbl surgery british woman who has undergone bbl surgery abroad at a different clinic. an inquest is due to be held within the next year. two years ago,
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this woman had surgery in turkey. she said she wanted it because her body had changed after having kids. idid body had changed after having kids. i did decide to go to turkey because the cost was a lot cheaper and also use the a lot of the celebrities, famous girls, going to take you to get surgery done and they come back fine. i was more comfortable with it. she signed a waiver, she was never given a copy, and the first time she met her surgeon was ten minutes before being put under general anaesthetic. she wants to remain anonymous over fears of legal action from the clinic. a few days after i woke up with really high fevers. i didn't tell any of the nurses. i just wanted fevers. i didn't tell any of the nurses. ijust wanted to go home and get to the uk doctors to have a look at me. still feeling ill, she went to her nhs doctor and eventually ended up in a&e, who established her infection was as a result of her
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surgery. infection was as a result of her surgery. i got admitted to hospital for five days and i ended surgery. i got admitted to hospital forfive days and i ended up on iv antibiotics. luckily one of them worked for me. a few days nothing was working at my infection was getting worse and worse. i know other girls when antibiotics didn't really work for them so they ended up really work for them so they ended up with really bad infection wounds all over the buttocks area, the thighs and everywhere. this woman says she still has pain from that surgery. says she still has pain from that surgery. oh, my gosh. look at her butt. nicki minaj is famous for her bottom as well, so much so it was the focus of this music video. now women are paying up to £5,000 for bbl surgery to get a bottom like hers. but what exactly is the surgery? the bbl involves library section of fat from areas that the woman might not want to have the fat, so around the tummy, the flanks, the thighs. —— like this
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liposuction fat. 0ne flanks, the thighs. —— like this liposuction fat. one of the concerns is that if the fact is injected into a dangerous deeper areas, and that is because the gluteus maximus, the buttock muscles, are the biggest muscles in the body, so the vessels are muscles in the body, so the vessels a re really muscles in the body, so the vessels are really big and the veins are really big. if the fat is injected into the vein, it can go into the circulation, through the heart and into the lungs, and cause a fat embolus, which is the bit of fat that gets lodged in the heart or the lungs. that can cause death. a lot of the clinics abroad specifically target their marketing at the uk. some of them claim to provide the uk standard of care. for anyone wanting a procedure, the british association of aesthetic plastic surgeons have a code of practice. we like to see our
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operations at least twice face—to—face to be able to assess them physically and mentally. but also there has got to be a cooling off period between the first and second consultations, because it does take time for someone to realise what the possible risks may be and to weigh that against the benefits they feel they could perceive. we spoke to other girls who had undergone bbl surgery, like this 23—year—old in wales. three months after her surgery she couldn't walk properly and fluid started to leak from various holes on her buttocks. she told this programme she has paid a stupid amount of money to look like this and she wishes she could turn back the clock. but not all social media stars of for bbl. nella rose nearly had bbl but changed her mind at the last minute and explained why on a youtube post. hi, guys. i am a
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social media influence. why did you decide to have bbl surgery?” social media influence. why did you decide to have bbl surgery? i feel like i live in a generation whether that bodies are glorified. you know having the coca—cola body shape, this tiny waist, and it is glorified so this tiny waist, and it is glorified so much. i looked in the mirror and i realised i didn't have that. every timei i realised i didn't have that. every time i went on instagram and i looked at celebrities and i realised iam looked at celebrities and i realised i am supposed to be an instagram model, my body, i really fed into the difference and that made me want to change it all to be able to fit in and be the it girl that i am supposed to be, if that makes sense. i have just clocked supposed to be, if that makes sense. i havejust clocked my supposed to be, if that makes sense. i have just clocked my influence on here. whenever i do something, a lot of people jump on here. whenever i do something, a lot of peoplejump on it. ifeel like if i was to get bbl, people would think it is extendable because nella has done it. you said an interesting thing in your video because people
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watch what you do and they will copy. i follow a lot of instagram models who have got millions and millions of followers. they have got a bbl, which influenced me to get one. but if i stand for body positivity and natural bodies, then a lot of girls will think, you know what? it is not that deep. i don't have to alter myself. i can stay the same and still be beautiful. sometimes as an influence you don't realise how much influence you have. nella isn't perfect. she has got a belly and a bum, nella isn't perfect. she has got a belly and a burn, and he is embracing herself, so why can't i? —— she is embracing herself. that epiphany settled into me and it really doesn't need to be done. thank you for your messages. gareth in cardiff says that all vanity surgery should be covered by extensive insurer and stew to any after cost to the nhs
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for this unnecessary and risky surgery. for this unnecessary and risky surgery. natasha: very worrying to hear that a second british woman has died after having a butt lift. clinics should be careful to promote the surgery when there is such risk of death. what is the world coming to? and this person runs a surgery, and she has been contacted many times by people who surgery has gone wrong. please let us know if you know anyone who has had the surgery. how much screen time is too much for your children? new research today suggests children under five are spending on average up to three hours a day watching tv and stuff online like youtube. the report into the media habits of children also found for the first time this year there are more three and four—year—olds with their own device than there are without.
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54% have now got their own tablet or phone, up from 47% last year. let's introduce you to some mums and dads. mamta saha has got three children and she is strict about their screen time. she is a psychologist. julian nest is a dad of two. he's here with alannah, who's four, and darragh who's six. and they are allowed to watch tv every day. christian hughes has three kids, and has made an app for children called toddler fun learning. also here is dr louise theodosiou, from the royal college of psychiatrists. thank you for coming on the programme. your girls are two, four and six. how strict are you? an hour and six. how strict are you? an hour a week. a week! that includes tv, tablet, laptop, phone. absolutely. it takes a lot of effort, a lot of energy and it is difficult to do.
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but i am quite regimented about it. i really want to monitor how much tv and access they have to the ipad. there are thousands of things that they could be doing and ijust think that tv and the ipad other very last resort. when do they get the hour? they have it on a saturday morning. when i am just waking up slowly and we need a bit of time. you can watch tv but it will only be cbeebies. they are not allowed to watch anything that isn't cbeebies. and why only one hour per week?|j anything that isn't cbeebies. and why only one hour per week? i think there are so many other things that our kids can do. and be creative. go and play in the garden. let's go to the playground. let's do some crafts, baking, help me set the table, empty the dishwasher. you are looking shocked? i can't compete. it is not a competition that that takes me aback. are you surprised?” is not a competition that that takes me aback. are you surprised? i am. i am not sure we could do that in our
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house. why? there is always pressure for the television to come on, straight after school. i try and postpone that as much as possible by encouraging trips to the garden, the part, playing a game first. but the television is on most days of the week for between an hour and an hour and a half average per day. not every day but most days. do you like watching tv when you get back from school? what do you like to watch? netflix. netflix! what do you watch? pixies. what do you like? the thing with the pixies. sometimes i like the girls as well. do you get home work at four? i hope you don't! when you have donejobs work at four? i hope you don't! when you have done jobs like tidying your room or getting your clothes ready
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or the next day, do you do those jobs first or not? i don't really set my bed and also my mummy and daddy don't because i sleep on the top bunk of my bed. so you don't really have to make it? it is out of sight! exactly. let me bring in christian. three children, eight, six and two. add any of them got their own devices? they don't. because we need ipad is for testing, we have two in the house. but they are owned by myself and my wife. we are owned by myself and my wife. we a re really careful are owned by myself and my wife. we are really careful about when we give them a device that they have got to be in the room with us so we can listen to what they are watching. and how much each day do you allow them to go on devices and screens, everything in total? we
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have a screen time limit of an hour a day unless we are doing a family film night. and how do you react, all of you, to the fact that more three and four —year—olds have their own devices now? it really concerns me. 0ver own devices now? it really concerns me. over 50%. itotally own devices now? it really concerns me. over 50%. i totally get the pressure because i get it daily. can i watch this? can i watch that? they just want to watch this. it is really difficult to take them away from it. i see my daughters with the ipad, andi from it. i see my daughters with the ipad, and i worry. thank goodness i am watching over them. but if i wasn't, what could i go on? mario monti witter says i have a feature on my daughter's i pride which disables itself after an hour and she understands that and doesn't complain. —— mario gomez on twitter that i have a feature on my daughter's ipad. we keep hearing about a game which is for shooting
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people. the school tells parents that it people. the school tells parents thatitis people. the school tells parents that it is not age—appropriate but they don't listen and i hear of children that spent all night on consoles. very sad. bernard on twitter: children don'tjust watch television any more. they interact and play and they learn with ta blets, and play and they learn with tablets, which are without a doubt better than tv. let's bring in louise from the world college of psychiatrists. hammered screen time should a toddler —— how much screen time should a toddler be allowed? we need more research in this area. international guidelines are coming out and we are looking to get consensus. the health secretary has called for guidance. we welcome that dialogue. healthy habits established in early will keep children safe.
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let us come up with our own guidelines because we are all pa rents, guidelines because we are all parents, all psychologists. we have some expertise. under fives, parents, all psychologists. we have some expertise. underfives, and our idea? half an hour? too much?” think half an hour a day. i have had times when i am more relaxed. i have seen times when i am more relaxed. i have seen the influence of what my children are doing and watching on them. i have seen my daughter get an american accent because she is watching something on netflix. that is not the end of the world. in cases like jamie bolger, you can see the impact of watching things they should not be watching —— bulger.” am talking about things that are age—appropriate. am talking about things that are age-appropriate. absolutely. i have anipad age-appropriate. absolutely. i have an ipad so all of the apps are
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educational. half an hour a day? half an hour. i would subscribe to an houra half an hour. i would subscribe to an hour a day. it is also about what they are watching, the quality. if they are watching, the quality. if they are watching educational content then they can get a lot out of it developmentally. is that true? do you know? they can be useful content and watching programmes with children can be very useful and children can be very useful and children are establishing patterns of social interaction at this time so of social interaction at this time so constructively watching a programme of someone can so constructively watching a programme of someone can be beneficial. half an hour to an hour for underfives. primary beneficial. half an hour to an hour for under fives. primary school children, how much? iwould for under fives. primary school children, how much? i would still be around an hour. that is across the board from our kids who are eight, seven and two. i would agree. it depends what it is. content is important. we have had the
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occasional bad dream from programmes that should be age—appropriate. you have to watch what is being watched. what about teenagers, 13—15? i am probably the only one with a teenager because your kids are too young. what would you say?” teenager because your kids are too young. what would you say? i don't know. i remember when i was a teenager two powers did not do any harm and it helped me and my brother relax after school so we would have a schedule of things. that is all in the future. what would you say? that was television that was happening with somebody else, part of a social interaction, that is a nice part of family life. i am yet to get their but we enjoyed our communal screen
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time and it is about conversations you have off—line, so you watch something together and then you talk about it afterwards. what do you think about parents who buy devices for their three and four year—olds? it is dangerous. why? interesting word to use. children get into the habit of using it themselves and being independent with it and that is not a good idea. i get it. a mother of three with three gets undersix, it is mother of three with three gets under six, it is tough. why are they acting surprised? under six, it is tough. why are they acting surprised ? we under six, it is tough. why are they acting surprised? we still need the social interaction of family time. i have an 11—year—old boy and an 18—year—old daughter and i have to
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be on full alert 2a seven. i co nsta ntly be on full alert 2a seven. i constantly monitor their activities and have discussions about the safety aspects. both of my children can only access online activities with my permission and with an agreed period of time. my love the new road has been told he may get a mobile phone at 15 and until then he has to concentrate on education. you have to have boundaries, it is tough love. my 11—year—old is the only person who does not have a mobile phonein person who does not have a mobile phone in her year. i bought my son a ta blet phone in her year. i bought my son a tablet before he moved abroad with his mum which allows me to face tiny river he likes. i control his screen time from my phone. which is interesting. more research needs to be done i should have thought. you are not dying. we have no idea about the long—term impact —— nodding.
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are not dying. we have no idea about the long-term impact -- nodding. we lived abroad and decided not to buy atvso lived abroad and decided not to buy a tv so my daughter is less interested in wanting to watch tv which is probably why i get away with an hour a week because she has not grown up around that. there is probably more interesting stuff online these days as well. thank you. still to come: we'll get the latest on the aid effort in indonesia as a group of charities launch an appeal to help those affected by the earthquake and tsunami. and we meet the mothers who joined forces and lived together ina "mum—commune", helping each other out with everything from childcare and chores to dinners and discipline. time for the latest news. the british government has accused russian military intelligence of carrying out a series of major
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cyber attacks around the world. it claims the hackers have targeted political institutions, businesses, media and sport. sir bradley wiggins was among the athletes whose files were stolen during one attack on the world anti—doping agency. the defence secretary gavin williamson said the uk would continue to expose russia's actions. we have seen a pattern of behaviour from russia in georgia, and ukraine, the use of cyber attacks and in the united kingdom we have seen the use of nerve agent in salisbury. britain has stepped up to the mark and our allies have with the expulsion of russian diplomats. we are going to be clear, where russia acts in an indiscriminate and reckless with where they have done in these cyber attacks we will be exposing them. this programme has discovered
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that a second british woman has died after having "brazilian butt lift" surgery abroad. the procedure, which is used to make buttocks look bigger by injecting fat transferred from other parts of the body, was found to have a mortality rate of1 in 3,000. ealier this year a 29—year—old woman from leeds reportedly died after travelling to turkey to undergo the surgery. british aid charities are appealing for emergency funds to help survivors of the earthquake and tsunami in indonesia. at least 1,400 people are known to have been killed in last friday's disaster, however officials expect the number to rise. the disasters emergency committee says 200,000 people need clean water, food and medical care. officials on the island of sulawesi say they will continue search and rescue operations for one more week. the chief executive of royal bank of scotland — ross mcewan — has warned a no—deal brexit could tip the uk economy into recession. he told the bbc a "bad brexit" could result in "zero or negative" economic growth which would hit rbs's share price. he also said the bank was becoming
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careful about lending to certain sectors of the economy — particularly retail and construction. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. here's some sport now. a messi masterclass has put spurs in trouble. a 2—1victory act at wembley. spurs have lost two out of two in europe this season. this crucial goal in the 90th minute, napoli beating liverpool. the woman hit by a tee shot from koepka at the ryder cup says she could have died.
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the great britain men's hockey team won theirfirst the great britain men's hockey team won their first game. celebrating the 30th anniversary of their famous gold at the 1988 olympics. the former teacher who has accused cristiano ronaldo of rape in 2009 was inspired to speak out by the me too movement, her lawyer said. kathryn mayorga has asked police in the united states to reopen a criminal case against the player. cristiano ronaldo said yesterday he "firmly" denies assaulting ms mayorga at a hotel in las vegas. 0ur reporterjim reed has been following this. this goes back to 2009 when cristiano ronaldo was transferred from manchester united to real madrid four at the time a world — record madrid four at the time a world—record fee. he went to america
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and it is alleged that he met ms mayorga in a nightclub in las vegas. she says she was invited back to his hotel room to a party and in his bathroom she says she was sexually assaulted and then raped. she filed the report but she did not say where the incident took place. she came to some sort of financial arrangement with the footballer, it is reported that she received $375,000, footballer, it is reported that she received $375, 000, around footballer, it is reported that she received $375,000, around £290,000, in return for not going public with her story. it is that agreement that our lawyers and her are trying to get overturned. what happened overnight? the first news conference
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from her legal team. we thought she was going to appear but she did not, her lawyer said it was because of the media attention. her lawyer was asked why she decided to come forward at this moment. the me too movement and the women who have stood up and disclose sexual assaults publicly has given catherine in a lot of courage and to a great extent in able to her to come forward and to file a complaint had to go to the police department. he mentioned a police investigation. the police have said they are going to be open an investigation into this alleged crime. how long that is going to take we do not know. they are following up the detectives on key information being provided. what
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has ronaldo said? in the past he has described this as fake news. yesterday she said... his lawyers say they are going to ta ke his lawyers say they are going to take legal action and sue der spiegel which first reported these allegations. we'll speak to the mothers lived together in a ‘mum—commune' — helping each other out after their relationships broke down.
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an appeal to help the survivors of the indonesia earthquake and tsunami has been launched today by the uk's disasters emergency committee or dec. more than 1,300 people are known to have died following friday's disaster. the 7.5—magnitude quake struckjust off the central island of sulawesi, setting off a tsunami which engulfed the town of palu. 0ur correspondent hywel griffiths joins me live from the coastal city of palu. what is the latest? we have seen heavy machinery moved today to places like this, a shopping centre in the middle of palu where as the earthquake struck the raw hundreds of people in here shopping, eating, going about their normal routines. we have not heard of any survivors but we think that there may be hundreds of bodies trapped under a heavy concrete and carnage of metal you see behind me. people have
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waited days for the machinery to be moved and finally that is happening. 0ver moved and finally that is happening. over 11100 confirmed death, 11100 people who have been buried. more are missing, notjust here in the city but in some places the other oddities have not been able to reach. in terms of aid getting through is it building, the momentum? it is at least constant. we spent a lot of time yesterday and we could see our plane loads of indonesian military aid being brought in. food, water, military supplies, tents, international aid is expected to land today from australia, singapore, south korea and the uk. military aircraft took off earlier today from the uk
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bringing solar lanterns, the electricity has been out since the sin -- electricity has been out since the sin —— tsunami. let's speak now to camilla knox—peebles, 0xfam's deputy humanitarian director. she lived on sulawesi island. what is needed ? what is needed? there is a huge amount needed and we are trying to raise as much as possible. in terms of food, shelter, clean water, medical aid, all of that has to happen at the same time as the search and rescue continues. we are aiming to work alongside the indonesian government with local organisations as well and to reach a large number of people with water,
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food. we have got what plans being dispatched as we speak. that will serve large areas of palu as well as other areas where we can access these. also shelter kits. people are living on this very flimsy plastic and in some cases completely open airand we are and in some cases completely open air and we are aware that at the end of the month the rainy season comes. how urgently do you need the food, medical care, shelter, drinking water? it needs to be now. currently people have lost everything. it is shocking, devastating. from one minutes to another, as your reporter said, they lost their houses,
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livelihood, and tragically most tragically, their loved ones. they are struggling on a daily basis. and also really quite traumatised by the whole experience. some air supplies beginning to arrive. they are at least constant. there has been a lot of work clearing and creating access for aid to come in. that has taken a few days. finally we are seeing aid coming in which is a positive result. the problem is the need is far outstrip what is currently they're so we need to do far more to reach all of the people that are displaced and whose lives have been destroyed. you live there. a while ago. what will it take to rebuild
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this area? it is incredibly sad. it was a very this area? it is incredibly sad. it was a very vibrant community with a vibrant economy, agriculture industry, tourism, and it will take a long time for the area to recover and go back to where they were. they have lost so much. coming back to the trauma, that is going to be difficult to overcome. that fear that it difficult to overcome. that fear thatitis difficult to overcome. that fear that it is going to happen again. yes. you are asking for deletions from the british public. the 2004 appeal raised £92 million. the 22 appeal raised £92 million. the 22 appeal raised £92 million. the 22 appeal raised £107 million. thank you for coming in. coming up: it's the reality show being called the new big brother. we'll be discussing the circle, where contestants live in separate
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appartments and can only communicate via social media. there have been concerns about the welfare of particpants, but can the show give psychologists an insight into loneliness and social isolation? we'll speak to two former contestants and the executive producer of the programme. now, janet hoggarth had been a single parent to her three children under five for a year when she first opened up her home to newly single friend vicky and ten—month old daughter daisy. that's vicky at the dinner table with some of the children. janet offered her and daisy a room and somewhere to live for a few months, which later turned into a few years. mum nicola markham completed the trio, popping round most week nights and staying at weekends with her children. together they formed the "mum commune" or the mommune, where the three mums lived together helping each other with everything from childcare and chores to dinners and discipline. janet's just written a book about it, called
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the single mums' mansion. hi,janetand nicola. it was a difficult time when your husband left. yes. how did you cope? ijust husband left. yes. how did you cope? i just existed, got through the days. some days were better than others. at the beginning it was pretty dire but then the children bolster you up and friends bolster you up but they do not know how you are feeling if they are not going through the same thing. just sort of got along until vicki found herself in the same situation and then i bumped into nicola and i had not seen bumped into nicola and i had not seen herfor a few bumped into nicola and i had not seen her for a few years, we bumped into nicola and i had not seen herfor a few years, we had been friends through a baby group, andi been friends through a baby group, and i second guessed that something had happened to her as well. she had the look about her, the heartbreak
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diet. we fell on each other like lost souls. we all started meeting up lost souls. we all started meeting up and vicki had moved then after that and it was only supposed to be temporary while she sorted herself out while her house was being sold, and then, i permit before vicky and after vicky, before existing, after was it was like a light came on and we alljust was it was like a light came on and we all just started feeling better. is that true for you? definitely. to be able to doctor somebody going through the same thing who understands you, not just empathises but knows what you are going through, and to be able to rant or be upset... you can do that but you do not have to practically live there. i was just
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do not have to practically live there. i wasjust down the road a nyway there. i wasjust down the road anyway and we had the same weekends off without the children so they we re off without the children so they were going to their dads and weekends on with the children. when you're single and you do not have fewer children you do not want to impose on your friends who are married and have their own family life to get on with so we naturally gravitated towards doing things together. there was a christmas when all of the kids were with their dads. we went to brazil. you celebrated early. christmas day is just a day and the children do not care. they does wanted to be with us. they wanted to be with their dads as well. we created christmas day a week earlier. we were blessed with snow. perfect. if you go away
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with snow. perfect. if you go away with friends, go on holiday, it can get tricky sometimes because you might parent differently, how did that work? did you just accept the way you were with your own kids under the one roof? we did. vicky was the one who would always let people off. we would be like, vicky is in charge. she is the soft one. to be honest it didn't seem to escalate into any situation where we had to be re—discipline them. everybody did just get along. if the children were particularly naughty or misbehave the parent that was the pa rent of or misbehave the parent that was the parent of that child would step in. but little misdemeanours we felt quite comfortable... we did not live there but the children spent a lot of time there weekends. i cannot
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think of a time when there was a major argument. the girls would go and dress up and the boys would play football. how'd you regard that period of your life? it was what i needed at the time. i look back and i think it is different now, but lots of fun, when i see photos i think it was so much fun and what we needed at that time. without really trying. does it seem like a different person? your life has changed. yes. i am definitely different. you are definitely different. you are definitely different. going through something like the boss is quite a struggle. it is quite stressful but it makes you appreciate other stuff. that is why we were able to mark in together because we had been through such a massive grieving process, small
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stuff, don't sweat it. a grieving process , stuff, don't sweat it. a grieving process, interesting. it was. massive support. we had a party for you when your ex—husband got remarried and for me when mine got remarried. we have been there for each other. this is what has happened and we are here to support each other. you have remarried. yes. we have a lovely picture. i hope we have got it. vicky and nikolai were bridesmaids. with my two daughters. doesn't make you think again about traditionalfamily doesn't make you think again about traditional family and units? doesn't make you think again about traditionalfamily and units? yes. these days it is more normal and accepted that people are not going to be with the fathers of the
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mothers of their children and blended families are becoming more common. what is the term family? it can be anything from a blood relative to someone you have chosen to spend time with and i feel like vicky and nicola are family to me and always will be and we are always there for each other, even though there for each other, even though the commune in did some time ago we have each other‘s backs. the feeling of the commune runs deep between all of the commune runs deep between all of us like it does with family. it is like a blood type. yes. not having close family close by, if that had been the case things would be different or for other people in the same situation. our families we re the same situation. our families were not there. it is like friends are the new family. good luck with the book. james says i tried to find
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a happy medium with my 11—year—old. ido a happy medium with my 11—year—old. i do not want her to be a couch potato and i want her to understand and be socially relevant amongst our friends. i go for an hour but it is not a hard and fast rule. asking you how much screen time you allow. it is about balance and common sense. ifi is about balance and common sense. if i said to my boys they only had an hour each day they would laugh. we enter out all the time because we make plenty of time for it. anita says high schools are increasingly using technology for classwork and homework which is causing conflict with green time if the user to com plete with green time if the user to complete coursework. news and sport on the way. for some of us it has been a foggy
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start to the day. this victory was taken in london and this one in cornwall. the fault is lifting. we have had closed this morning. for most of us it will be dry but we have rain coming from the north—west. courtesy of this weather front. some of the rain will be heavy with high pressure in charge for the south. when we lose the fog macron south—east wales and southern england and it is patchy the cloud will start to become and we will see some breaks. you may have noticed a change in the graphic, we have switched to high—resolution graphics which shows where we are expecting the rain to be. you can see a lot of cloud and splashes of rain. the
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cloud and splashes of rain. the cloud could be thick enough for drizzle to continue for a while but we will see sunshine developing for central and southern england and eastern england. this evening and overnight the weather front continues moving southwards taking rain with it. for northern ireland and scotland, it will be cool with pockets of frost in sheltered glens and once again a lot of cloud around and once again a lot of cloud around and fog back in similar areas to today. in the midlands that is going today. in the midlands that is going to be mild. friday, this pressure chart shows the timings from 9am until 3pm, this weather front producing rain and it is the dividing line between cooler air and milder air. you can see exactly where we have the cloud and rain
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across northern england, wales, and the south—west. for northern ireland and scotland, it will be a brighter day with sunny spells and a few showers and the cloud will continue to build with brighter skies in the south—east. we could well see 22. a lot more rain for much of england and wales on saturday with clear skies and sunny spells further north but wherever you are on saturday it is going to feel cool especially in the south. good morning. it isjust after ten o'clock. i'm victoria derbyshire. this programme can exclusively reveal that a second british woman has died after having so—called brazilian butt lift surgery. we'll talk to other women who've had it and find out what went wrong. i got admitted to hospitalforfive days and ended up on iv antibiotics. luckily one of them worked for me. for the first few days
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nothing was working. my infection was getting worse and worse. i know other girls where the antibiotics didn't even work for them so they ended up with really bad infection wounds. the procedure has the highest death rate of all cosmetic surgery. we'll be discussing that in the next few minutes. could fake pills be used to treat some of our most common medical complaints? we'll be talking about the new bbc documentary which treated people with back pain with nothing but placebos. there were some surprising results. ijust woke i just woke up this ijust woke up this morning and i thought, hang about! i haven't got a twinge in my back. hurray! it's been going from strength to strength on a daily basis. and the reality tv show where contestants can only communicate via social media. the circle. since you asked me on the day, i'd better take the lead. i
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am going to reply with the message, oh, it is a date, is it? winky face. two of the former contestants are here. we'll ask aiden bradbury and mitchell palmer whether living alone and only talking to other people online made them feel isolated and lonely or happy and joyous. now here is the latest news. the british government has accused russian military intelligence of carrying out a series of major cyber attacks around the world. it claims the hackers have targeted political institutions, businesses, media and sport. sir bradley wiggins was among the athletes whose files were stolen during one attack on the world anti—doping agency. the defence secretary gavin williamson said the uk would continue to expose russia's actions. we've seen a pattern of behaviour from russia. we've seen it in georgia, we've seen it in ukraine, we've seen the use of cyber attacks and of course in the united kingdom
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we've seen the use of nerve agents in salisbury. what you have seen is britain stepping up to the mark. and our allies have with the expulsion of russian diplomats. we are going to be clear where russia acts in an indiscriminate and reckless way, where they have done in terms of these cyber attacks, we will be exposing them. this programme has discovered that a second british woman has died after having brazilian butt lift surgery abroad. the procedure, which is used to make buttocks look bigger by injecting fat transferred from other parts of the body, was found to have a mortality rate of one in 3000. earlier this year a 29—year—old woman from leeds reportedly died after travelling to turkey to undergo the surgery. british aid charities are appealing for emergency funds to help survivors of the earthquake and tsunami in indonesia. at least 1400 people are known to have been killed in last friday's disaster, however officials expect the number to rise. the disasters emergency committee says 200,000 people need clean
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water, food and medical care. officials on the island of sulawesi say they will continue search and rescue operations for one more week. new car sales fell in september byjust over 20 percent on the year before. the society of motor manufacters and traders says there was a dip in the number of diesel and petrol cars registered, but a small rise in the sales of hybrid and plug—in electric vehicles. the chief executive of royal bank of scotland, ross mcewan, has warned a no—deal brexit could tip the uk economy into recession. he told the bbc a bad brexit could result in zero or negative economic growth which would hit rbs's share price. he also said the bank was becoming careful about lending to certain sectors of the economy, particularly retail and construction. the lawyer representing a woman who says she was raped by cristiano ronaldo says the #metoo campaign inspired her to come forward. kathryn mayorga says she was attacked by the footballer in a las vegas hotel
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room nine years ago, something he firmly denies. three out of four children under five years old now have their own tablet, smartphone or computer. figures from research group childwise suggests pre—school children are increasingly using the devices to watch online video, sometimes for up to three hours a day. how's this for the ultimate toy car? a working bugatti made entirely of lego. the car, which is unveiled today at the paris auto show, is made of more than a million plastic pieces and weighs 1.5 tonnes. it comes complete with a working engine, also made of lego, which gives it a top speed of 18 miles per hour. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. more at 10.30. aleksandra had emailed: i am a single parent and i know it is super ha rd single parent and i know it is super hard not to fall back on devices for your children. my eight—year—old son has the use of my ipad or iphone,
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which equals his. no usage during the week unless it is his homework. at the weekend he has a limit of 30 minutes maximum at a time with no more than one hour a day. i make sure he is not alone when playing. i see parents spending the day glued to their devices and unless they curb their addiction, they will not be able to stop their children as these devices have become the norm for everybody. when my son has had more time on any of the devices he becomes less happy, irritable, and unable to transition to new activities. that is so true! he is unable to think about other subjects and things he likes to do. i find think about other subjects and things he likes to do. ifind he is happier with out the devices and playing with toys and running around outside allows him to use his own mind. argue for that. outside allows him to use his own mind. argue forthat. —— outside allows him to use his own mind. argue for that. —— thank you for that. joke says: i have children
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who are only allowed to have the computer on friday and saturday and until 8pm on sunday and the average is three hours a week. parental controls are on both devices and it is synchronised to my phone to monitor their usage. no tablets, is synchronised to my phone to monitortheir usage. no tablets, no mobile phone. we would like to talk to parents mobile phone. we would like to talk to pa rents before mobile phone. we would like to talk to parents before the end of the programme. put your mobile phone in the message and it makes it slightly easier and we could use skype or facetime. i don't mind. now some sport. good morning. spurs have lost two out of two in the champions league but even the home fans were applauding lionel messi after he helped barcelona win 4—2 at wembley last night. the argentinian completely ran the show making two and scoring two as well as hitting the post twice. it was his pass that helped set up the first goal inside the first two minutes. on any other night we'd be talking more about barca's second from ivan rakitic. spurs did do well to at least stay in touch. harry kane got it back to 2—1 in the second half.
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a messi strike restored barcelona's advantage. erik lamela got a second for spurs but another messi goal wrapped it up late on. we are going to have in our hands to be or not at this stage. it will be tough because these are must win games and of course against barcelona in barcelona. it will be tough but we are still thinking the same, that all is possible. so a defeat for spurs and also for liverpool in italy where they lost 1—0 to napoli. things got off to a bad start for the reds when midfielder naby keita was stretchered off on 19 minutes with a back injury. liverpool have said this morning that he's fine. lorenzo insigne scored the only goal of the game in the final minute of the 90. liverpool couldn't manage a single shot on target and the win moves napoli to the top of group c. we didn't create a lot of chances,
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to be honest. the first half was kind of 0k to be honest. the first half was kind of ok but the second half was not. it was not good enough. it is a lwa ys not. it was not good enough. it is always a bad sign if you have to say that your goalkeeper was the best player. it was obvious tonight. i have to accept it and i can accept it. a big part of their performance is my fault, for sure. the spectator who lost the sight in her right eye after being hit by a wayward tee shot at the ryder cup says she doesn't blame the player for her trauma. corine remande was in the crowd alongside the sixth fairway in paris when brooks koepka's tee shot struck her and claims there wasn't enough warning, something the tournament organisers deny. mrs remande says she's lucky to be alive. i have nothing against the player because i play golf and i know. i am only angry against
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the marshall, the organisation, because nobody came to see me and to take some news. great britain's men's hockey team celebrated two things with a 2—1win over belgium in lee valley last night. it was a game that marked the 30th anniversary of their famous gold medal victory at the 1988 seoul 0lymmpics and also began the new era under new coach danny kerry who moved over from the women's team after they won gold in rio. sam ward with both goals. that's all the sport for now. the headlines coming up later. thank you. today's exclusive story: this programme has discovered that a second british woman has died after having brazilian butt lift surgery abroad. the procedure involves injecting fat from one part of your body into your backside to lift it up to look like this. this kind of surgery has the highest death rate of all cosmetic procedures. one in 3000 people die having it. in august, 29—year—old leah cambridge from leeds died
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after undergoing such surgery at a clinic in turkey. now we've discovered that a second british woman in her late 20s lost her life after having a brazilian butt lift or bbl at a different clinic this year. chi chi izundu has this exlusive report. this is the look a lot of young women want, the kim kardashian look of a raised, perky, round bum. but those women feel the only to get that look is opting for surgery commonly called a brazilian butt lift, otherwise known as the bbl. brazilian butt lift surgery has the highest death rate of all cosmetic procedures, due to the risk of injecting fat into large veins in the buttocks that can travel to the heart or brain and cause severe illness or death. in august, 29—year—old leah cambridge died after having a bbl procedure in turkey. the bbc has learned of one other
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fatality of a british woman who has undergone bbl surgery abroad at a different clinic. an inquest is due to be held within the next year. two years ago, this woman had surgery in turkey. she said she wanted it because her body had changed after having kids. she signed a waiver, she was never given a copy, and the first time she met her surgeon was ten minutes before being put under general anaesthetic. she wants to remain anonymous over fears of legal action from the clinic. a few days after i woke up with really high fevers. i didn't tell any of the nurses. ijust wanted to go home and get to the uk doctors to have a look at me. still feeling ill, she went to her nhs doctor and eventually ended up in a&e, who established her infection was as a result of her surgery. i got admitted to hospital for five days and i ended up on iv antibiotics. luckily one of them worked for me. for the firtst few days nothing
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was working and my infection was getting worse and worse. i know other girls where antibiotics didn't really work for them so they ended up with really bad infection wounds all over the buttocks area, the thighs and everywhere. the bbl involves liposuction of fat from areas that the woman might not want to have the fat, so around the tummy, the flanks, the thighs. one of the concerns is that if the fact is injected into a dangerous deeper areas, and that is because the gluteus maximus, the buttock muscles, are the biggest muscles in the body, so the vessels are really big and the veins are really big. if the fat is injected into the vein, it can go
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into the circulation, through the heart and into the lungs, and cause a fat embolus, which is the bit of fat that gets lodged in the heart or the lungs. that can cause death. we spoke to other girls who had undergone bbl surgery, like this 23—year—old in wales. she says she is scarred for life as a result of her procedure. this visual media star nearly underwent the procedure but decided against it. sometimes you don't realise as an influence how much influence you have got. mellor isn't perfect, she has got a belly and a bum, so have got. mellor isn't perfect, she has gota belly and a bum, so i have got. mellor isn't perfect, she has got a belly and a bum, so i can accept myself. it really doesn't need to be done. here to discuss this with us is cheryl—palmer hughes, a lawyer who deals with medical malpractice cases, and has seen a rise in people contacting her about bbls that have gone wrong, and antonia mariconda campaigns for better safety standards and awareness in the beauty industry. thank you for coming on the programme. more british women are coming to you and saying this procedure has gone wrong. before
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this year we had maybe one or two in five years before that, and our specialist matt tobin have now had several inquiries in the last six months. what are people coming to you about? we have seen a couple of fatalities. mostly people suffer sepsis, and even contouring, and if they have had implants they have had them taken out. had implants they have had them ta ken out. they had implants they have had them taken out. they have ongoing pain, mobility issues, psychological issues as well. have these procedures always taken place in clinics abroad? the ones that i see have, yes. how complicated is it to pursue legal action when it is a clinic abroad? very difficult. for a number of reasons. if you start at the default position with cross—border litigation, you would pursue a defendant in the country
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where it is resident or where it happened. if you look at turkey, the default position is you should lodge your claim default position is you should lodge yourclaim in default position is you should lodge your claim in turkey against turkish defendant. in most countries outside england and wales and america, you would have to do that privately by paying the fees upfront, which is a barrier in itself. there are ways of bringing the claims in england. european regulations help is pursue that through the english courts. we can look at the contractual position to see if we can pursue it through english procedure against english defendants. can be problematic again. a lot of these people are booking the surgeries through whatsapp and phrase book honours are looking at the contract can be difficult. —— and facebook. so to get going is difficult. antonio, how young other women coming to you?
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they are mostly girls and we live in a very pressured society with social media. the youngest inquiry we ever had was 16 to 17. what was the nature of the inquiry? she wanted a smaller waist, a bigger bottom, because of most of her favourite influences and celebrities on instagram and on reality tv having that look. she just felt that if she grew into that look, she would have a better life. that is quite concerning but this is the use of today. we have an enormous amount of young women lacking body confidence, lacking self—esteem, feeling that the route to improving their lives is surgery. and going abroad is cheaper. it is absolutely cheaper. it isa cheaper. it is absolutely cheaper. it is a price driven reason that these girls looked to have surgery abroad, no other reason. the time it takes them to make that decision is seconds. so they are not doing any research or getting referrals or
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finding out if a surgeon is competent or not? absolutely not. i do want to underline that there are fantastic surgeons abroad but you andl fantastic surgeons abroad but you and i don't know who they are so you are so you are playing a lottery with your body and your help. we cannot stress enough as a campaign, and myself as a counsellor, to have these young girls have in—depth conversations with professionals. there are brilliant surgeons in the uk. if girls field that is the only route to getting a better life, which i don't necessarily agree with, please have that conversation with, please have that conversation with a uk—based expert. with, please have that conversation with a uk-based expert. when a 17—year—old says to you as a counsellor that i need this in my life, i need the bbl, how do you counsel them? life, i need the bbl, how do you counselthem? add life, i need the bbl, how do you counsel them? add a counsellor we cannot say you should not do something but we try to understand emotions and reasons. the pressures they face today are reality tv and
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social media and there are so many unrealistic images pressuring girls to look flawless and perfect. you andl to look flawless and perfect. you and i know that is not the real world and that is not real life. we try to empower them with other ways of looking good. you can go to the gym, eat well, make nonsurgical transformations to your body that still give you self—esteem and empowerment, but it is a very hard message to drive through. you said 12 inquiries to your law firm about bbls that have gone wrong in the last six months, and you are aware of two death. without revealing personal details, can you give us more information about the nature of those fatalities? i have seen press coverage of some of them and we have spoken with experts, and it is a cosmetic procedure that carries a higher rate of fatalities and other procedures. fairly recently, in fact earlier this year, a paper was distributed amongst practitioners
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explaining the heightened risk. i am not sure that was explained to people previously. the industry was not aware. the specialism of the procedure is better known now and it is all to do with how deep into the tissue the fact is transferred. —— the fat. a person who is not a specialist who necessarily knows all of that. one of our viewers said that we need insurance because otherwise the nhs is picking up the pieces when it goes wrong. this is something we are campaigning for. people go to other systems and then turn to our system to remedy the mistakes. we are campaigning for people to think about those decisions more carefully first of all, and undertake some information, knowing what their courses if things go wrong. the very last thing people think about is things going wrong and it should be the first thing.
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what about the way that surgeries abroad advertise? it is aggressive. i would like to see it completely banned in the uk. iwould i would like to see it completely banned in the uk. i would like the government to take it really seriously, considering the burden of places on our systems. and to ban aggressive marketing. that wouldn't stop people. you can go on instagram and you can find, as you know, any number of glamorous women who have had a bbl or look like they have. you don't need an advert from cosmetic surgeons. no, but there are aggressive companies in the uk recruiting. they are preying on the vulnerable, so let's be honest, these are vulnerable young ladies. if we can eliminate that, we eliminate one of the steps in the process. are you vulnerable because you want cosmetic surgery? does that immediately make you vulnerable? nope. i have had plenty of elective surgery nope. i have had plenty of elective surgery procedures and i am not a vulnerable person but there is a difference between making a decision
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at 18 and 136 when you have had children and your body has taken different changes. great tobacco and at 36. do you mind me asking what you have had ? at 36. do you mind me asking what you have had? yes, tummy tuck, breast surgery, facial surgery following a car accident. i am a big fan of the right surgery for the right reasons but at 17 to want a smaller waist and a bigger bottom because your celebrity has got that, thatis because your celebrity has got that, that is not a valid reason. john on twitter says: do not have surgery u nless twitter says: do not have surgery unless it is to improve your health or save your life. there is always the unintended consequences thing. jane says: we have got to get perspective here. having a perfect bottom is not worth dying for. christina says: be proud of your backside be it big or small. no need for surgery. thank you for coming on. could fake pills be used to treat some of our most
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common medical complaints? that's the question being posed by a bbc documentary this evening which has taken 117 people with severe back pain and treated them with nothing but placebos. have a look at this — one of the pain experiments the programme conducted on their volunteerjack. this is an eeg cap and we will use that to measure brain activity. at this research centre, doctors laura and james this research centre, doctors laura andjames are this research centre, doctors laura and james are conducting just such and james are conducting just such an experiment. they have given their reasonably winning volunteer jack two creams to try out. we have two creams for you. one is a normal creams for you. one is a normal cream that doesn't do anything and the other one may or may not contain an anaesthetic. we're not going to tell you which one is which. what jack doesn't know is that neither
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cream contains an anaesthetic. they both placebos. are you ready? starting with your right arm. next they use a laser to burn his arm while asking him to rate how much it hurts on a scale from one to ten. the reason for using a laser is that we wa nt the reason for using a laser is that we want to elicit an acute pain response. we want to use something thatis response. we want to use something that is safe to use. instead of stabbing him with a sharp stick for example, long—term this will not hurt him. the team gave jack a low power that on his right arm. three. then they turn it up again for his left. six. they repeat this several times to build an expectation in jack's mind that the right arm will a lwa ys jack's mind that the right arm will always hurt less than the left. two. the next stage is without telling
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him we are ramping it back up so they are both the same intensity. the laser is now the same power on both of his arms. seven. he rates the pain in his left arm as seven but when comes to the right arm... four. he is experiencing much less pain. every time they repeat the experiment... his right arm is a lwa ys experiment... his right arm is always lower. four. simply because he believes he has received an anaesthetic. it was quite interesting to feel the difference between the two, especially with the pain between the two, especially with the pa i n levels between the two, especially with the pain levels once the cream was on. you could barely feel anything in this arm. then when we did it the second time, it started to hurt a bit more but still less than the left arm. out of the 117 participants 45% showed a medically significant improvement.
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so could the mind be more powerful than pills for some conditions and some people? let's talk now to dr michael moseley who conducted this study for the bbc‘s horizon programme with oxford university, dr ravjot kaur, a registrar psychiatrist at the west london mental health trust, and in dundee dr isla mackenzie who has led several clinical trials using placebos. welcome to all of you. the clip of jack, first of all, and the people in the back pain experiment, you lied to them! yes! not exactly lie. it was misleading. we recruited them. 115, done with 0xford university, with an expert in the placebo who designed the permit. we said it is a trial and you might get a powerful new wonder drug or might get a placebo. and actually they all got a placebo which has nothing but
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ground rice in it. is the colour releva nt? ground rice in it. is the colour relevant? absolutely. it turns out that blue and white are particularly soothing. jeremy has done a lot of these studies before and he threw it all together. it comes in a lovely bottle here. it says on the side ta ke two bottle here. it says on the side take two twice a day because it turns out taking two twice a day is much more effective than taking one once a day. it is done in a proper clinical setting and it is proper gps who talk to you. that is all adding to the experience. why did you choose back pain? because it is unbelievably, and all of these people had suffered from back pain for a long time and they were on all kinds of medication including morphine. —— unbelievably common. this was in blackpool where one in five people have it and it costs the uk economy 450 million a year. we could have done depression because depression responds very well to placebos but we wanted something
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very measurable, which people could identify with. literally we saw people getting out of the wheelchair and walking. i have done a lot of stuff in my time but this was probably the most remarkable project i have ever been involved with. probably the most remarkable project i have ever been involved withm sounds amazing. what you discovered is that for some patients, not a majority but quite a lot, the brain makes chemicals change based on the power of their thought. the power of their belief. this is all about belief. do i believe in these bills? doi belief. do i believe in these bills? do i believe in the doctors handing them to me? do i believe in a nice doctor over there who has been talking to me? if! doctor over there who has been talking to me? if i was cynical about you and the pills, it might not work? no. the thing we know about placebo is that the people who get benefit from it are not gullible, but they are open to the possibility of change and new experiences. we also measured how much time you spent with the gp
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because unknown to any of these patients, what we did was when they came in to be seen by the gp, they either got nine minutes and 20 seconds, standard nhs time, ora more generous 20 minutes. none of them knew this. what we wanted to see was whether it would enhance the effectiveness of the intervention and it absolutely dead. we increased it by about 50%. —— it absolutely did. they got a clinically effective benefit from taking nothing but fills with brown rice in it. these are people on major drugs. that is amazing. let's bring in doctor mckenzie. that's amazing, isn't it? we have always known about the power of the placebo effect which is why we often build in placebo arms into clinical trials to compare treatments what are true drug
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effects and what the psychological effects and what the psychological effects are of being in a trial and the extra attention you can receive and what effect that can have on outcomes. is it unethical to give outcomes. is it unethical to give out placebos to patients? on a clinical basis you can argue it is unethical and that is the broadly held view in the medical field that we should not give out in active treatments that are knowingly inactive to patients. in a clinical trial patients are usually informed that they might receive a placebo and they might get the inactive treatment so there is a full understanding. in normal clinical ca re we understanding. in normal clinical care we generally do not hand out placebos. no, because that would be unethical? i think most people feel it would be unethical. there was the paper yesterday which they argued we should, you would have to tell the patients, it is called an open placebo. then it would feel. it
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works even if they know they are taking a placebo. that is mad. here isa taking a placebo. that is mad. here is a pill that has brown rice... we know from numerous trials that it will be effective in treating pain and perhaps depression. see it like that. there is a case for doctors prescribing what they call open placebo and that is ethical. psychologically what is happening in the brain when a placebo is taken? this proves how powerful our mind is. there is a release of endorphins which are affecting our thoughts and beliefs than the internal dialogue going on. our thoughts can change our physical state, which is amazing. it does not work for everybody. what is it about... you
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talked about somebody who was open to this kind of stuff. yes. some people are too cynical. that is right. what you believe affects you. that power of belief and how strong that belief is. also the more the intervention the better. we looked at placebo surgery where bugle in and have shoulder pain and the surgeon and have shoulder pain and the surgeon is going to operate, the open them up and either the surgeon operates or they do not, theyjust close you up, and that is the most powerful form of placebo, and unbelievably they do it and unbelievably they do it and unbelievably people doing incredibly well. this trial they got people who had the surgery who did better and it made no difference whether the surgeon it made no difference whether the surgeon operated or not. amazing. i
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am going to show another quirk from your programme ina am going to show another quirk from your programme in a moment. —— clip. you think that placebos can only work with certainty and related conditions. it is not only pain related but the literature suggests that people with pain are more open to placebo effect. depression is another one, angina also, a form of chest pain. lots of conditions. we also looked at the search going on at the moment in germany for people with kidney transplants and they are exploring the use of placebo. they start off by taking a drink and after a while you stop taking the drug and you just take the drink and by then you have conditioned the body. so the body does not reject the kidney. that is out there at the moment and you would not want to be
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doing it but it shows you the potential. amazing. this was a really positive outcome for one of your participants. out of all my volunteers, the person who left the biggest impression on me is gem. several years ago illness forced him to sell the boat he lived on with his wife. given his dramatic improvement i wanted to give him a treat. how are you? very good. i have been fairly well. everything is going fine. i thought i do not have a twinge in my back. i am going to ta ke a twinge in my back. i am going to take this easy. it has been going from strength to strength. we have a surprise. we are going to take you out on a boat. brilliant. i have not been ona out on a boat. brilliant. i have not been on a board for years. i used to love someone. —— to live on one.
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few weeks ago stepping foot on a boat would have been too painful for him to contemplate but today he is keen to give it a go. ok. ready. well done. i did not think you were going to do that. brilliant. how are you? i didn't think that was going to happen. to be back on a canal... sorry. i am hoping you are pleased.
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lam overthe sorry. i am hoping you are pleased. i am over the moon. you are not going to get me awful fear. sign me up going to get me awful fear. sign me up as crew! he was lovely. he was on morphine. he said he chucked the morphine. he said he chucked the morphine and he prefers my pills. he has kept the placebos. he has switched to vitamin pills now. he knows that the do not do anything but they have the same effect as fine as he is concerned. amazing. what the programme if you can, bbc two, 9pm tonight. the victoria derbyshire programme has discovered that a second british woman has died after having brazilian butt lift surgery abroad. the procedure, which is used
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to make your backside look bigger by injecting fat transferred from other parts of the body, was found to have a mortality rate of one in 3,000. earlier this year a 29—year—old woman from leeds reportedly died after travelling to turkey to undergo the surgery. the british government has accused russian military intelligence of carrying out a series of major cyber attacks around the world. it claims the hackers have targeted political institutions, businesses, media and sport. sir bradley wiggins was among the athletes whose files were stolen during one attack on the world anti—doping agency. the defence secretary gavin williamson said he hoped exposing russia's actions would serve as a deterrent. british aid charities are appealing for emergency funds to help survivors of the earthquake and tsunami in indonesia. at least 1,400 people are known to have been killed in last friday's disaster — however officials expect the number to rise. the disasters emergency committee
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says 200,000 people need clean water, food and medical care. officials on the island of sulawesi say they will continue search and rescue operations for one more week. new car sales fell in september byjust over 20% on the year before. the society of motor manufacters and traders says there was a dip in the number of diesel and petrol cars registered, but a small rise in the sales of hybrid and plug—in electric vehicles. the chief executive of royal bank of scotland — ross mcewan — has warned a no—deal brexit could tip the uk economy into recession. he told the bbc a "bad brexit" could result in "zero or negative" economic growth which would hit rbs' share price. he also said the bank was becoming careful about lending to certain sectors of the economy — particularly retail and construction. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. here's some sport.
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a messi masterclass has put those in trouble, he scored twice at wembley. sparrows have lost two out of two in europe so far this season. liverpool lost in the champions league. the goal came in the 90th minute. 1—0 in italy. the liverpool manager says liverpool only had themselves to blame. a woman hit by eight to tee shot at the raider, ryder cup says she could have died. she so she was not given adequate warnings. seldom beaten 2—1 in a game celebrating the 30th anniversary of their famous victory at the picks. the uk government has accused russian military intelligence
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of directing a series of cyber attacks. the foreign office says the kremlin is ultimately responsible for the campaign, which it says aims to destablise western democracies. emily taylor is cyber security expert from the international security department at the international affairs think tank chatham house, as well as being editor of the journal of cyber policy. what is the significance of the uk government singling out the russian intelligence service? two aspects. for people interested in this area the cooling out of russia or the identification of the g argue, the military intelligence wing of the kremlin, is not really a surprise. the us special prosecutor named the operatives as gru agents. the
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question is why now and why so publicly? governments when they are identifying other states and particularly military intelligence, this is beyond plausible deniability, states have to be quite sure and this is the high level of certainty that the british government were seeing. how hard would it have been for them to carry out these cyber attacks? u nfortu nately out these cyber attacks? unfortunately it is much easier to attack successfully than it is to defend in today's world. even when organisations or even states have quite a high level of preparedness comparatively we are still unfortunately... generally our ecosystem is weak because we have things like civil society organisations, even political parties of think tanks, small
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businesses, are often meshed up in complex supply chains where there are easy points of entry and people make mistakes. if it really is the gru, which the government is insisting it is, the kind of things that were hacked, the world anti—doping agency, sir bradley wiggins confidential details, the democratic national committee, the metro, the key of metro in ukraine, an airport, russia's central bank, an airport, russia's central bank, an icon named uk tv station, why would they want to hack a small tv station? it is hard to know without more details but the whole thing builds upa more details but the whole thing builds up a picture. jeremy hunt has called this indiscriminate and without any regard to international
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law. the fact that the russian central bank apparently was caught up central bank apparently was caught up in similar attacks shows that when you are exploiting vulnerabilities you can end up missing... as well as hitting your target you can catch a load of other things you may not have intended to. by things you may not have intended to. by naming them so clearly today in the way that the british government has, it is not going to deter them, what is the point? it is part of a tactic we have seen over the last few months of more strident vocal calling out by members of the government here and working very closely with allies as well. it also has to be seen in the wider political context, rising tensions particularly in the wake of the salisbury attack, and a sense that the russian state seems to be acting with a sense of impunity. this is
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pa rt with a sense of impunity. this is part of a series of responses and it is allies standing together saying we will not put up with this quietly. thank you. we will be talking to parents about how much screen time you allow your children to have, new research suggesting 50% of the night and four year—olds on their own device. it's the reality tv show which is being called the new big brother. the circle sees contestants moving into the same building but living in separate apartments. they can communicate using only a specially designed social media app, which means they can be completely themselves or whoever they want. there have been some concerns about the contestants' welfare, particularly as they appear to be isolated for days or weeks at a time. however, millions have been tuning in to watch the three week show on channel 4. now, with just days until the final, psychologists who have been following the programme have told us it compares to a real social experiment and could help society
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understand why social media makes young people feel increasingly lonely. let's talk to two recent contestants, aiden bradbury and mitchell palmer. the pair seemed to take a liking to each other during filming, so we can find out what it's been like getting to know each other in the real world. executive producer of the circle tim harcourt has also worked on programmes like gogglebox. and anjula mutnad, a tv psychologist who has been following the circle. early on in the circle, you went on a date with someone you thought was called kate. ignoring what you know now, what were your first impressions of her? he... she was really nice, well spoken, said everything you wanted to hear, so i had no suspicions. you
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never thought this was too good to be true. i had to go on a date with her. let us see what happened. a message, since you asked me on a date, i had better take the lead. i'm going to reply with a message a date? i thought it was just a hang—out. all right, love. rose petals everywhere is a hang—out. it's definitely a date from where i'm sitting. just wondering why did you choose me? i thought you had great chat. i was feeling charitable. how did you've feel when
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you realise that kate was alex? laughter. i was thinking i have friends and family seeing me going ona friends and family seeing me going on a date with a guy. it was funny. you made friends with kate as well. when you were kicked off the programme you could meet one of the co ntesta nts a nd you programme you could meet one of the contestants and you chose kate. you're lying! no, i'm kate. stop it! my god! you're lying!” you're lying! no, i'm kate. stop it! my god! you're lying! i want to give you a hug. are you 0k? my god! you're lying! i want to give you a hug. are you ok? i'm ok. i'm
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so sorry. you a hug. are you ok? i'm ok. i'm so sorry. how did you feel about being misled? i was thinking i was going to have a girlie chat. it was a boy. i was well confused. i was like, who was that? you create them in your own like, who was that? you create them in yourown mind like, who was that? you create them in your own mind because you never meet them. was that the first time in your life you realised you could be fake online? i knew you could but in terms of on the shore... of course. i was like, who is that? you laughed. you thought some of it was amusing. yeah. alex is such a nice person and it was so easy to speak to hand. apart from the big lie of his gender. he wasjust a nice person. if he had been a horrible person. if he had been a horrible person would have been different. you will all but some people have
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said this is normalising cat fishing. i do not think it is normalising it. there are a lot of elements of social media we wanted to capture and we wanted to make a show for entertainment as well so you put in the good and the bad side of behavioural and social media. cat fishing is one of those aspects you get on social media. there are other things we wanted to show as well, how friendships are formed, how people are lonely on social media and it gives them a window to the world. and we wanted to see how sometimes aggression can translate onto social media and flirting, so cat fishing is just one element that makes it interesting. last night we saw someone makes it interesting. last night we saw someone looking distressed when they met for the first time. he looked upset. he quickly settled and said that because he was funny he
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was cool with it. it has made him doubt his friendship with kate. but i think his suspicions are raised and he protected himself against the possibility that she is not true she says she is. from a psychologist's point of view what are you thinking? it absolutely holds a mirror to how we view social media. i was one of the original psychologist dawn big brother and we did not know what was going to happen and this is the first show i have seen that holds a mirrorup to the first show i have seen that holds a mirror up to the way we interact on social media, about popularity, about the dark side, about the positive side. you see the spectrum. that is what i find so fascinating asa that is what i find so fascinating as a psychologist. someone says it is televising what i can assume is happening to a lot of the population. sometimes i sit at home
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interacting with people online and they could have fake identities. why would anyone checking on you and why would anyone checking on you and why would you want to put your misery on someone would you want to put your misery on someone who is so happy? instead of putting tv programmes on tv making light of this we should have more about them be a litany of social media and reality tv and encourage people to interact. you will have heard that before. how do you counter that? by saying that we are making it entertaining, not making light of it. it allows it to reach a much broader audience, light of it. it allows it to reach a much broaderaudience, in light of it. it allows it to reach a much broader audience, in particular the young audience who are flocking to the shore, to make them aware of who they are talking to when they are talking online. you said it opened your eyes to cat fishing. i presume in real life as well. i hope that translates to audiences. you
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use to work on a call centre. you would talk to people all day long. adjusting from that to only doing it online, what was that like? on the phone i never meet people i speak to so phone i never meet people i speak to so talking is not an issue for me, i will talk to anyone, but on their it is texts. it was completely different. you were attracted to aid in quite early. what was that like meeting in real life? when we met it was like we had already known each other in terms of the chat and the fa ct we other in terms of the chat and the fact we had had... it went into real life. we saw two pictures of each other and then spoke that way. we have realised the banter was the sole we have got area the good mate out of the shore. meet? you haven't been on a date? we came out and had
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a band realised that we had a really good laugh. it is best to be mates. do you agree? yeah. it is heightened on the shore, the romance. there is an element of pressure. when you meet them it is like meeting them for the first time again so we got to know each other properly. when you watch the programme it looks like everybody is isolated. are they? no. they are isolated from each other and that is important so they cannot meet each other but the reality is they are talking to a producer and there is a ground floor team. it is not about being in solitary confinement, it is just about being isolated from each other and making sure they do not meet each other for the game to play out in the most meaningful and entertaining way. have you been
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commissioned for another series? not yet but it is very popular. fingers crossed. there is a ground team at the top two producers. do you worry about the isolation?” the top two producers. do you worry about the isolation? i am sure they would have had psychological assessment before going into test on resilience of coping in their own company. what is interesting about this game is you have a prize of money at the end but if you look at how we interact with social media it is about emotions and popularity and validation and acceptance and that is what is so clever about this show. thank you. you can watch the circle at 10pm on channel 4. this morning we've been talking about the new research which says
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more than half of three or four year olds now have their own tablet, smart—phone or computer. let's speak to 31—year—old alice deanie from manchester, who's a mum of three with another child on the way. how old are the other three? seven, five and two. we do not have much time before the end of the programme. how do you work out your screen time? we are passionate about limiting free time. we probably have about five or six hours a week maximum and that is normallyjust the telly, we do not have access to the telly, we do not have access to the ipad, probably once a month. they are happy with that. you wait until they get older and that is when the tension comes because they ask and even though you can be strict, i think i am disciplined, it does not stop the constant asking. yes. but i think we are setting the
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standard now for our family and we talked to them know about it. even going out for meals, we do not take phones at the table when we go it for dinner. it is something we feel we can put something in place now in order to limit future time as well. how do you react to the fact that 54% according to be search of three and four year—olds have their own device? it is scary. there are so many things that are affecting our children and it scares me thinking this next generation are going to grow up... talking about the circle, things happening, i feel grow up... talking about the circle, things happening, ifeel protective of my children, limiting their access and how it is going to affect them in the future. good luck with
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your fourth child. thank you. thank your fourth child. thank you. thank you for your company. bbc newsroom live is coming up next. have a good day. we have had a rather misty start to the day particularly across southern areas of england with patches of fog here and there. cloudy scenes for many of us through this morning. this afternoon there will be something brighter developing, already brighter skies across east anglia. the south—east of england eventually having some sunshine. green into the north—west of scotland, north—western areas of
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northern ireland. up to about 20 celsius across the south, it is going to feel quite warm. 0vernight this cloud and rain will move further south. associated with a cold front which will gradually moved to northern parts of england, north wales. but hind that we have colder air are moving in. north wales. but hind that we have colderairare moving in. much chillier on friday. this is bbc news. i'm annita mcveigh. these are the top stories developing at 11am.
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britain identifies the hackers behind a campaign of global cyber attacks as coming from russia's military intelligence agency. we are going to be clear, where russia acts in an indiscriminate and reckless way, where they have done in terms of these cyber attacks, we will be exposing them. and we re expecting a live news conference from dutch and british officials from the hague, we ll be bringing you that live an operation targeting the organisation for the prohibition of chemical weapons. the hague. the journal will explain in full details
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