this is bbc news. i'm annita mcveigh. these are the top stories developing at ham. britain identifies the hackers behind a campaign of global cyber attacks as coming from russia's military intelligence agency. we are going to be clear, where russia acts in an indiscriminate and reckless way, where they have done in terms of these cyber attacks, we will be exposing them. and we re expecting a live news conference from dutch and british officials from the hague, we ll be bringing you that live an operation targeting the organisation for the prohibition of chemical weapons. the hague. the journal will explain in full details of the operation in a few moments. please allow me to continue in touch. —— in dutch. she speaks dutch

i think this will mix between dutch and english. let's come away from that for a moment. we will remind you of our top story this morning. the british government has accused russian military intelligence of carrying out a series of major cyber attacks around the world. it claims the hackers, have targeted political institutions, businesses, media and sport. sir bradley wiggins was among the athletes whose files were stolen during one attack on the world anti—doping agency. responding this morning the russian government have described the allegations as groundless and "mind—boggling". ben ando reports. in canada private medical data relating to athletes like sue

bradley wiggins is stolen and published. in ukraine a port chaos, and disruption of the metro in kiev. in the run—up to the presidential elections in 2016 confidential democratic party committee members are published. and a british teenager's private e—mails are monitored. hacker groups were blamed, but now the uk's national cyber security centre says they are all russian military intelligence, the gi you. the foreign secretary said they were reckless lending discriminate... he added... the national cyber security centre said its highly confident the gi you was almost certainly responsible for these attacks and others. but what does the uk gain by making this public? some suggest that in the murky world of espionage and counter espionage, shining a bright light on this is a useful tactic. as an

individual you might be caught up in this ongoing conflict. the more obvious under urgent a fact that people need to be aware of is that the services they use, the essential services, are at risk and actively being targeted for sabotage. moscow is yet to respond, but when the battlefield is the world wide web anyone online could be on the front line. we are keeping an eye on this news c0 nfe re nce line. we are keeping an eye on this news conference getting under way in the hague today. it involves british and dutch officials. that is going to be in both dutch and english. we will come back to it when they return to english commentary. but, obviously, this links into our main story this morning. the british government is accusing russian military intelligence of carrying out a series of major cyber attacks around the world. the defence secretary, gavin williamson commies

ata secretary, gavin williamson commies at a nato meeting in brussels and he gave his reaction in little earlier. we've seen a pattern of behaviour from russia in georgia, the ukraine, we've seen cyber attacks, and in the united kingdom, we've seen the use of nerve agents in salisbury. what you've seen is that britain has stepped up to the mark, and our allies have, with the expulsion of russian diplomats, we're going to be clear, when russia acts indiscriminately and recklessly, as they have done in terms of these cyber attacks, we will be exposing them. what britain is doing in terms of investing £1.9 billion in terms of investing £1.9 billion in terms of cyber security, and cyber defence, it's like dell, and important. we will continue to support our allies to make sure they have the right type of defence in order to be able to deter such attacks in the future. crucially, the russians are not particularly

upset about being discovered. they carry out these attacks in the most blatant and indiscriminate way. are a lot of people going to say that the best defence might be some kind of offence? what we are doing by isolating russia, exposing the fact that these are actions of a state acting ina that these are actions of a state acting in a reckless and indiscriminate manner, this is not the action of a great power. this is the action of a great power. this is the action of a great power. this is the action of a pariah state, and we will continue working with our allies to isolate them and make them understand they cannot continue to conduct themselves in such a way. they had some lines starting to emerge, the dutch official says that dutch military intelligence disrupted a russian cyber attack on the old pcw, the organisation for the old pcw, the organisation for the prohibition of chemical weapons,

so the prohibition of chemical weapons, so dutch military intelligence disrupted a russian cyber attack according to a dutch official at the conference in the hague. another line is that the dutch expelled for russians over an operation targeting chemical weapons. let's return to the hague, and we can listen in to the hague, and we can listen in to the news conference. he speaks dutch we are going to come back to that shortly, but let's get the thoughts of joyce back to that shortly, but let's get the thoughts ofjoyce hakkinen from the thoughts ofjoyce hakkinen from the think tank chatham house. thank you for your time. what do we know about the russian military intelligence service? we are told by

the government they are behind these attacks. in fact, the gru have been behind several attacks, there are attributed specific attacks to them. and i believe this comes as part of a larger strategy that the russian government has been doing in the last few years. but this is, this announcement is not a surprise. the uk has, indeed, put together the national security centre with the fbi, and it is part of homeland security in the us. they issued a joint statement basically, about the activity that the russian government has been doing against government institutions, and against the private sector. the announcement today does not come as a surprise. it is actually part of a larger strategy that the uk and its allies

have been doing over the last few yea rs. have been doing over the last few years. when the government to talk about exposing the actions of russia, what else are they doing about stopping these actions before they happen. proactive versus reactive? that's a good point actually. the uk was the first country to announce its plan, you know, it's been working on its offensive cyber capacities. so we have been doing that, and they announced that in 2013. i'm sure you heard recently about the new cyber force that will be a joint effort between the ministry of defence, to go against the states and other malicious actives. there are a lot of measures that the government is taking, offensive developing capacity, establishing new centres, and making sure they can combat this. they are getting better at

attribution, and, you know, having, basically, the willingness to attributed tax to the governments, to russia and others, which is something that they were reluctant to do in the past. and on the other hand, you know, there is conversation between like—minded states, getting together, and trying to come up with a unified command and response. so they have been talks about, you know, other measures that they can take, diplomatic, political or military, if they have used force. the russian government have we were this morning said that the uk government allegations are groundless and mind—boggling. if we look at this from a russian perspective, is russia trailing pretty overtly to show that it has strategic power in

this area? you'll agree you are absolutely right. actually, there is absolutely right. actually, there is a big design from russia to show supremacy. they want to send the message to western states, particularly the us and the uk that we are an equal footing. this was, basically, articulated by a senior adviser to president putin, saying they are working on something in the information arena that would make them look to the americans as equals. this is in their mind, and now, later this month, equals. this is in their mind, and now, laterthis month, russia equals. this is in their mind, and now, later this month, russia is planning to submit to draft resolutions on cyberspace. so i get that their previous behaviour, i doubt they want to have... they want to negotiate from a position of power. they want to show off and have a strong voice on the negotiating table. it's about their international

bargaining position? yes. amongst other things. you know, showing that they have the capacity, to target specific countries, we've seen what happened in the ukraine. in terms of foreign policy agenda, we have a bargaining and negotiating position at international level. thank you very much for your time. just to recount on those lines coming from the news conference in the hague this morning. we are hearing that the dutch have expelled for russians, they say over an operation targeting the chemical weapons watchdog. this operation, we are told, the expulsions, i beg your pardon, happened earlier this year. in april, we are told by dutch officials. they halted a russian operation in april, april the 13th.

i think those are the key lines that are coming out of that hague news conference. well, let's talk now to the chemical weapons expert, hamish, good morning to you. one of the lines coming out of the hague is that the dutch disrupted and attempted cyber attack on the organisation for the prohibition of chemical weapons. how dangerous could that have been if the cyber attack had been carried out? year ago the timing is interesting. of course, this was just after the attacks in salisbury, and the british government had already been in touch with the 0pcw before then to get the 0pcw involved in the investigation. what we have seen from the gi you over the last few months, there is no limit on the

sort of things they are prepared to do. of course, i'm sure were as part of trying to cover—up the salisbury attack, a cyber attack on the 0pcw, potentially to disrupt some of the results and activity they were doing, to gain further doubt. so we know also that the chemical weapon usage in syria, which the 0pcw investigated in —— the russians have a lwa ys investigated in —— the russians have always vetoed any results of their reports. it is very clear that they have been behind the use of chemical weapons in this country and elsewhere and we're trying everything they could to disrupt the information. and it looks like the 0pcw and british government wanted to get that into the public domain. guest argued that this is a classic demonstration of power to improve russia's international bargaining position amongst other things. what are your thoughts on russia's motives here? i expect there is

absolutely substance behind what your previous interviewee was saying there. the russians are feeling isolated, and very much flexing their muscles. only yesterday, i think it was, president putin was calling script file a scumbag and threatening anybody who betrayed him would be ta ken threatening anybody who betrayed him would be taken out. i think the russians are getting increasingly isolated. their economy is in a bad position at the moment, and i think putin, you know, is the great strategic master and still wants to play that on the stage. this additional piece is evidence of that. i think it also clear that some of the traditional methods of the gru, the military intelligence service in russia, are perhaps a little outdated. the way that the british security service and dutch, and others in europe and the us and

as they are operating together at the moment, they are very much keeping the russians at bay. that must be frustrating for them. you say keeping the russians at bay, we have exa m ples say keeping the russians at bay, we have examples of the government releasing information about various attacks in which they state they have high confidence that the gru was almost certainly responsible, including the cyber attack on the world anti—doping agency, the 2016 attack on the democratic national committee, and so on, so clearly, some of these attacks are happening, and others are being thwarted. his isa and others are being thwarted. his is a finely poised battle in your opinion, between hackers and those trying to stop them? very much so. it's hugely widespread. there is other stuff going on that we are yet to hear about. what it is showing is quite how good the british and others are at interjecting this, and

long may that continue. the widespread activity here, and in the past, the 60s and 70s, although it wasn't cyber attacks which the russians were doing, we had a lot of subversion and other bits and pieces. this is an extension of spying, if you like, to the current day. and it is important that we do support our security services in every way to make sure that they stay ahead of the game, this is technology that is very rapidly moving, and we see how devastating the cyber attacks can be. i think there is evidence over the last few days of how widespread it is, and it is key that we ensure our security services have all they need to ensure that we keep this under wraps. also, very important that britain is an opponent member of the un and takes a resolution to make sure that russia is clearly told

that this is entirely unacceptable. thank you very much for your thoughts on that today. we are going to ta ke thoughts on that today. we are going to take a look at some of the other news 110w. rescue workers are making final attempts to find survivors of last week's earthquake and tsumami in indonesia. at least 11100 people are known to have been killed in last friday's disaster — but officials expect the number to rise as many people are still missing. british aid charities are appealing for emergency funds the disasters emergency committee says 200—thousand people need clean water, food and medical care. mariko 0i has filed this report from the city of palu. the government has said friday as the deadline to look for any more survivors. and there are many more places they haven't actually managed to reach. for example, there is a shopping mall, where we have been broadcasting from for the past several days. they only managed to get that heavy machinery in last night. when they started clearing the rubble, immediately afterward they found one body.

of course, the earthquake hit at 5pm on friday, when many people would have been shopping. there are fears that many more bodies could be found. that is why the authorities continue to warn that the official death toll is expected to rise. but while we continue to talk about tragedies and how much challenge, how many challenges aid agencies have been facing, i want to talk about the resilience of the city. people, for example, today, have started selling food on the street and even though they have been struggling for days to get hold of food and water, as soon as they got some they were generous enough to start offering them to us as well. also, while this building might have collapsed, if you look at this side of the city, for example, all these buildings are quite 0k. and on the same street there are many houses as well as buildings which actually withstood the earthquake. that really goes to show that

while the earthquake did a lot of damage, it was really the tsunami which killed many of the victims. hywel griffith is in palu. it's just after 6pm there, obviously, the darkness hampers the effort, what have you seen about the effo rts effort, what have you seen about the efforts to find remaining survivors and to help those left behind? yes, that shopping plaza has been finished in the last half an hour, as light for the rescue teams had to finish for the day. they spent all day trying to start to go through the rubble. i guess they hoped to find survivors, and realistically, the prospect of finding hundreds of bodies in there. that will add to

the death toll, now over 1400. but thatis the death toll, now over 1400. but that is only in the early years they've been able to confirm deaths. there are still places in the north that they are not able to reach. the lack of power has hampered things. some electricity is returning to parts of the city, but not everywhere yet. that means that they are searching and rescuing, and security is an issue for some people. we met some people wanting to get out, simply because they don't feel 100% safe. is road to get out, simply because they don't feel 10096 safe. is road access still hugely difficult? are you talking about aid agencies still relying largely on air power to get to various locations? yes, we know that there have been some improvements, we are told that the main road from here to another badly

hit area has been reopened today. but beyond there, further up the peninsula into the more remote towns and villages, they are still impassable and although a craft is able to land at the main city of what we are seeing internationally to reach from places like singapore and australia. that's the only place they can land. 0therwise and australia. that's the only place they can land. otherwise it is a dropping things. it's fair to say that aid is still not able to get beyond the main urban accommodation. thank you very much. more details are emerging from their hate. a news conference is taking place they involving dutch and british officials. 0ne involving dutch and british officials. one of the first lines coming out of that conference was that dutch officials had thwarted a cyber attack on the 0pcw, the organisation for the prohibition of chemical weapons. 0ur security correspondent is at that news conference. he's been sending tweets about the information coming from

that. he says that the gru, the russian military intelligence service, was planning a close access hacking operation, which was targeting the wi—fi network of the 0pcw. we've learned that for russian individuals came to the netherlands on diplomatic passports, which she was seeing at the news conference, that was back in april. dutch officials say it became clear they we re officials say it became clear they were gru officers. the news conference has been shown pictures of the men arriving at the airport. all have been named. two of them had sequential passport numbers. they we re sequential passport numbers. they were accompanied by two others. intelligence supplied by the uk helped to show that they were planning this, what has been called a close access hacking operation at the 0pcw. equipment was found in a

car boot, which is being used to intercept people's log ins and people were working at the 0pcw. that is the car. the antenna of this equipment was pointed at the 0pcw, they were close by, hence a close access hacking operation. they were attempting to intercept people's logins. we are told by officials at the news conference that when the equipment was turned on and there was a threat to the 0pcw, and so these men were arrested, and deported. a dutch intelligence chief was asked how can we be sure these men went on holiday, and in reference, of course, to the interview with the two suspects in the salisbury case who said they had come to the uk to see the cathedral. the answer from dutch

come to the uk to see the cathedral. the answerfrom dutch intelligence to that question was that the men we re to that question was that the men were carrying multiple telephones, and they try to destroy one when they were arrested. really, a fascinating detail coming out of this conference, involving the dutch and the uk about one cyber attack that they thwarted. these men, whose images they have shown an cctv, arriving at the airport in the netherlands, and whose passports they have shown, these men attempted to, they say, carry out an attack on the 0pcw. i think we might actually be about to hear from the british ambassador to the netherlands. so far much of the conference has been

in touch, largely in the dutch language. we can now hearfrom in touch, largely in the dutch language. we can now hear from the ambassador, let's see, peterwilson, if we can hear from ambassador, let's see, peterwilson, if we can hearfrom him. ambassador, let's see, peterwilson, if we can hear from him. thank you very much, minister and janelle, thank you for that very, very clear presentation you've just given. 0n behalf of my ministers, said alan duncan, whose flight has been cancelled this morning due to fog, i'd like to thank my dutch colleagues, and to make a few remarks. the united kingdom and the netherlands are close security partners. 0ur presence on this platform together, in the hague, underlines that. the disruption of this attempted attack on the 0pcw was down to the expertise and professionalism of the dutch security services, in partnership with the united kingdom. the 0pcw is

a respected international organisation, which is working to rid the world of chemical weapons. hostile action against it demonstrates complete disregard for this vital mission. this disruption happened in april, around that time, the 0pcw was working to independently verify the united kingdom's analysis of the chemical weapons used in the poisonings in salisbury. as we know, the old pcw confirmed the united kingdom's analysis that a nerve agent was used in the salisbury attack, which we 110w in the salisbury attack, which we now know for certain was carried out by serving gru officers. the 0pcw was also due to conduct analysis of the chemical weapons attack injune on the 7th of april. this was not an isolated act. the unit involved,

known in the russian military as you need 26165, has sent officers around the world to conduct brazen, close access cyber operations. 0ne the world to conduct brazen, close access cyber operations. one of the gru officers, who was escorted out of the country by our dutch colleagues, also conducted malign activity in malaysia. this gru operation was trying to collect information about the n h 17 investigation, and targeted malaysia institutions, including the attorney general‘s office, and the royal malaysia police. as the general has just mentioned, we know that the gru officers who were stopped in the hague planned to travel on to the gru debugger 0pcw laboratory. this wouldn't have been the first time they travelled to switzerland. intelligence collected from a laptop that belong to one of the officers

disrupted in the hague showed that it had connected to wi—fi at the alpha hotel in lucerne in 2016. really world anti—doping agency conference was taking place. that conference was taking place. that conference was taking place. that conference was attended by officials from the international olympic committee, and the canadian centre for ethics in sport. they found themselves victims of a cyber attack. 0ne official from the canadian centre had their laptop compromised by malware. this was probably deployed by an act connected to the same hotel wi—fi network. immediately after the la ptop network. immediately after the laptop was compromised the centre's computer systems were infected broadly by another piece of malware. subsequently, actions also compromised the ip addresses of the international olympic committee.

earlier today, the british government has publicly revealed that a number of cyber action widely known to have been conducting cyber attacks around the world are the gru. the uk national cyber security centre has made this assessment because of compelling technical evidence, that links these actors operations to know gru technical infrastructure. this leads them to assess that the gru was almost certainly responsible for these actors attacks. i want to make it com pletely actors attacks. i want to make it completely clear, the officers disrupted in the hague are part of the same unit of the gru, 26165, which is responsible for a pte 28. another of the cyber actors

identified as the gru was sandworm, active in the wake of the salisbury attacks. i can reveal that they were behind the following attempted intrusions... the gru attempted to compromise uk foreign and commonwealth computer systems via a spear fishing attack. in april, gru intrusions targeted both the computers of the uk defence and science technology laboratory as well as the organisation for the prohibition of chemical weapons. in may, gru hackers send a spear fishing e—mail which impersonated swiss federal authorities to target 0pcw employees directly, and thus 0pcw employees directly, and thus 0pcw computer systems. these cyber attacks were carried out remotely by gru teams based in russia. alongside

oui’ gru teams based in russia. alongside our allies, the uk is committed to confronting, exposing and disrupting gru activity. their pattern of behaviour is exemplified by the reckless attempted operation against the 0pcw headquarters in the hague, brilliantly disrupted by the dutch security services. but it's wider implications bear repeating. as our attribution is today have made clear, the gru has interfered in free elections and pursued a hostile campaign of cyber attacks against state and civilian targets. the gru is an aggressive well funded official body of the russian state. it can no longer be allowed to act aggressively across the world against vital international organisations with apparent impunity. i should organisations with apparent impunity. ishould repeat organisations with apparent impunity. i should repeat that this isa

impunity. i should repeat that this is a real and multifaceted threat conducted by both remote and approximate means. gru officials do not just attempt to compromise approximate means. gru officials do notjust attempt to compromise our computer systems from moscow. as we've shown today, they have operated on the streets of the netherlands to target the 0pcw. they travelled across the world and the diplomatic cover to target the mh 17 investigation and a wider conference. and they operated in a quiet british city to apply a band nerve agent to a door handle. with its aggressive cyber campaigns, we see the gru trying to clean up russia's own mess, be it doping uncovered by wada or the nerve agent identified by the 0pcw. 0ur uncovered by wada or the nerve agent identified by the 0pcw. our world leading intelligence partnership and outstanding professionalism from the dutch, british and allied intelligence communities has allowed us intelligence communities has allowed us to disrupt and expose them. on

the basis of what we learnt in the salisbury investigation and what we know about this organisation more broadly, we are now stepping up our collective activity against malign actions and specifically against the gru. we will increase further our understanding of what the gru is dimming and attempting to do in our countries. we will shine a light on their activities. we will expose their activities. we will expose their methods and we will share this with our allies. this includes strengthening international organisations and working to protect other potential targets from further harm. through our institutions including the eu, we will work with allies to update sanctions regimes to deter and respond to the use of chemical weapons, combat hostile activity in cyberspace and punish human rights abuse. the gru can only succeed in the shadows. we all agree

that when we see their malign activity, we must expose it to the light together. studio: that his peter wilson, the british ambassador to the netherlands and a permanent representative to the 0pcw the organisation for the prevention of chemical weapons which was the target of an attack, a disrupted attack back in april, disrupted by dutch officials with intelligence contributed by the uk. mr wilson said this attack was a hostile action which represented a complete disregard for this vital mission carried out by the 0pcw. he said at the time the 0pcw was involved in work on the attack in salisbury, the poisoning in salisbury. he said a

unit of the gru, the russian military intelligence service, was sending its operatives around the world in what he called brazen close access cyber operations. joining me is the former uk ambassador to russia. thank you for your time today. i hope you've been able to hear some of what has been coming from the hague. i have, and our ambassador spoke well. your reaction to what you've been hearing, please. i think it was a very accurate account given of what happened at 0pcw. also, to try to expand from that to the global effort that russia is making to disrupt other countries and to spread their own malicious propaganda, i think that

was a very worthwhile thing to do. i think it was done well. my difficulty is to discover why the russian state actually thinks this is useful. in part, it is to deny some of the actions they've taken including in the case of mh 17 or in the salisbury case. 0n including in the case of mh 17 or in the salisbury case. on a wider scale it must do them harm. their malevolence is too obvious, when they should be pursuing in the interests of the russian people better access to european and north atla ntic better access to european and north atlantic societies, and presenting an image of themselves as a responsible state. it's interesting because i was about to ask what you thought the motivations were in all of this for russia. do you think it is to present the country as such a force that it assists in diplomatic

negotiations? well, it may be but it doesn't assist in diplomatic negotiations. diplomatic negotiations. diplomatic negotiations are a search for mutual interest. if you attack other people they are not going to see that you can be trusted and therefore worth having agreements with. it's a question really whether the gru is under adequate control from the kremlin. if you suppose that it is, and that is a very bright supposition, then you have to wonder what is going on in the mind of president putin himself. he is of course alone in the kremlin. he's not given independent advice, and i think he has a rather distorted view of the world and that's dangerous. listening to what peter wilson the british ambassador to the netherlands for saying was going to be the response to this, he talked

about stepping up the response, increasing the understanding of the gru's methods, exposing them, shining a light on them and sharing information with allies, are you confident that countries working together can tackle what the gru is doing, can disrupt attacks like the one we've seen focused on here against the 0pcw? well, i think it's against the 0pcw? well, i think it's a very necessary message against the 0pcw? well, i think it's a very necessary message to against the 0pcw? well, i think it's a very necessary message to get out to the wider public and to other allied states, that is a common effort if you like. whether you can a lwa ys effort if you like. whether you can always frustrate attack is a different matter. if four example you send murderers to kill people in a foreign country, they can often get away with it because they don't know it's going to happen and they don't know who they are, so that's a risk. but every time they do that, they undermine trust and faith in

they undermine trust and faith in the aims and ambitions of russia. that itself is damaging, not only in countries which are victims of those but ina countries which are victims of those but in a wider way. there's a good reason why russia is not trusted by its neighbours. i don't meanjust ukraine, but it's wider neighbours do not trust russia and they are right to do so. interesting that not all of these attacks were carried out remotely at a distance of thousands and thousands of miles. the phrase closed access, we heard that over and over again. it was certainly close access in salisbury and in the hague with these operatives working out of the boot ofa car operatives working out of the boot of a car near the 0pcw. what's the motivation behind an attack of that nature? is there a certain recklessness ? nature? is there a certain recklessness? is it simply brazen?”

think there is recklessness about it, but there is a discernible mated in the attack on 0pcw because that was the institution which was going to verify the conclusions of the british investigators, that it was novichok and so on. if they could frustrate that that would be a good thing to do. it's also a most motive for the gru thing to do. it's also a most motive forthe gru in thing to do. it's also a most motive for the gru in trying to be active in persuading the outside world that they are not the only ones who drop their athletes and so on, hence the attacks on wada, the drug organisation and the exposure of some legitimate drugs which have been taken by two britons, for examples. i'm sorry to interrupt, we are going back to the hague where our security correspondent has just asked a question. it's not always clear why they did the opposite ——

the operation towards the 0pcw because it doesn't show on their equipment. you never can know if that has been the real target. what i noticed they were trying to target the 0pcw networks in the period that they were investigating the skripal case. studio: a question about the disrupted attack on the 0pcw, the organisation for the prevention of chemical weapons. the former uk ambassador to russia there. thank you for bearing with us while we listened to that answer. i asked you

about the motivation for these attacks were. there's usually a fairly clear motive for that. in the case of the 0pcw, the motive was plainly to interrupt its work at least and there was a possible connection, perhaps not a provable one with the salisbury attack. the connection with the attacks on the doping organisation was clearly to try and get information which would be used to show that russians are not the only ones that took dope ‘s. ina more not the only ones that took dope ‘s. in a more general way, close access is not necessarily for trying to disrupt the election but it can be

useful in recruiting people who might be willing to help with that. i think it depends on the situation. sir andrew wood, thank you. the chief executive of royal bank of scotland — ross mcewan — has warned that a no—deal brexit could tip the uk economy into recession. he told the bbc a "bad brexit" could result in "zero or negative" economic growth which would hit rbs's share price. he also said the bank was becoming careful about lending to certain sectors of the economy — particularly retail and construction. if we look at what we expect on a normal run rate, and we run economic consensus, which next year says about 1—1.5%, if we get an ok growth from the economy, if we get an ok brexit scenario. but if we get a very hard brexit scenario, we have other factors that we put across that say it actually will be less than that and the economy may well go down to zero or negative

growth next year, if that brexit relationship is very, very harsh. the toddlers on tablets, three out of four children under fives now have their own tablet, smart—phone or computer. figures from research group childwise suggests pre—school children are increasingly using the devices to watch online video, sometimes for up to three hours a day. here's our technology correspondent rory cellan—jones. what about this one? the round one? for decades, television has been a big feature in the lives of very young children, but now new technology is changing the way they view and what they see. this research shows that three quarters of under—five—year—olds now have access to a connected devices such as a tablet or smartphone and half of all three and four—year—olds have their own one. what are they doing with them? playing games and watching a lot of video. childwise questioned 1,000 parents of under—fives,

they revealed that their children watch tv and online video for two hours and 48 minutes a day on average. cbeebies was still the most popular channel, with 63% watching. that is dropping as they turn to things like youtube. which was viewed by almost half of all preschool children. boys are watching for longer periods than girls. but overall viewing is on the rise. children are getting access to a wide range of programmes on everything from the disney channel to netflix. the research also found voice—controlled gadgets such as amazon eco or siri were in two thirds of preschool children's homes and they were using them to play nursery rhymes or ask questions, such as "how big is the moon?" ubereats couriers and a small number of workers from jd wetherspoon, mcdonald's and tgi fridays

are striking over pay. walk—outs are being held in several uk cities, as well as a rally in london. the industrial action is being taken in tandem with strikes by fast food workers on four continents. ubereats, jd wetherspoon and mcdonald's have all defended their record on pay. more on that in the business news in a moment with victoria but first the headlines. dutch and british security forces foil an attempt by four russian spies — who were planning a cyber attack on the chemical weapons body looking into the poisoning of the skripals. the chief executive of royal bank of scotland has warns that leaving the eu without a deal could tip the uk economy into recession. uk aid agencies launch an appeal for emergency funds to help the survivors of the earthquake and tsunami in indonesia. hello, i'm victoria fritz — in the business news this morning. sales of new cars last month are more than 20% down on last year. meanwhile, nissan warns

about the impact of a possible no—deal on brexit. 7,000 people work at nissan's sunderland plant. the japanese firm is urging the uk and eu to work together and towards a balanced brexit. more on this in a moment. as we've been hearing the boss of rbs has warned a no—deal could tip the uk into recession. the bank is also becoming more cautious about lending to construction and retail businesses. profits have halved at dfs — as the summer heatwave hit sales. but the company hopes the recent purchase of new companies will give it enough market clout to see out what could be a difficult winter for retail. hello. let's start with all things auto. it's been a big week in the industry, with bosses of the major car companies putting on the pressure on the government to do more to support the sector during trade negotiations. we're still five months away, but are the effects of brexit already being felt?

according to the society of motor manufacturers and traders, sales of new cars last month are down more than 20%. just over 330,000 new cars were registered in what should be a good month for the industry — the month that plates change over. sales of both petrol and diesel vehicles fell, but those of hybrids and plug—in electric vehicles actually rose. up almost 4% — but they still only account for a very small fraction of total sales. not a good picture. so what does the future hold for the industry, and those that work for it? nissan, for example, employs 7,000 people at sunderland alone — today its warning that a no—deal brexit would have serious implications and that the uk "needs to work towards a balanced brexit". joining us now is emma butcher, spokesperson at the society of motor manufacturers and traders. do you think those words from nissan

amount toa do you think those words from nissan amount to a serious threat? no, i wouldn't think so. what they say is basically what the industry has been saying for quite a long time now and it's certainly the view of sn nt that no deal isn't an option for this sector. we rely so heavily on what are known as just—in—time manufacturing processes. we need parts to be shipped to the uk from europe at short notice and delivered to the assembly line almost on a minute by minute basis, so any delays that could come out of us not getting a deal which might impact on the ability to get through customs without having to go through any checks, that could really have some serious implications for production. looking through some of the figures we've seen for september, you say that sales are down 20% because of a raft of up evils. we haven't even reached brexit and they are down 20%. -- reached brexit and they are down 20%. —— raft of up —— upheavals.

we've seen an exceptional set of circumstances. it's not really related to brexit in this month. 0n the 1st of september we saw the introduction of a brand—new emissions testing regime across europe which has meant manufacturers have had to retest every single model in the european car range which has been a very tight turnaround. european testing centres are already at capacity so there has been a backlog in terms of getting the cars through for testing and that has had implications for order lead times. lots of people are worried about what sort of car they should invest in. they aren't sure whether they will be stung by diesel taxes in the future. they want to perhaps switchover but they say charging facilities, infrastructure

still isn't good enough. what is the industry doing to make it easy for people to make the switch? what manufacturers are doing is investing huge amounts of money in developing different types of vehicle technology, something to suit every type of driving need. if you're doing lots of long—distance driving up doing lots of long—distance driving up and down the motorway, it might that a diesel is the car for you and that a diesel is the car for you and thatis that a diesel is the car for you and that is also the view of the government which has been clear recently that diesel has an important role to play in the journey to zero emissions transport. that's a clear message, if diesel is right for you there's no reason why you shouldn't invest in one of the new high—tech cars. at the same time, we've also got some really advanced petrol engined cars a range of electric, plug in electric and hybrid cars and even hydrogen cars. there's a lot of choice out there. there's a lot of choice out there. there is still some hesitancy among buyers. we are seeing demand for

these new technology cars rising rapidly, but perhaps not as rapidly as we would like them to. what we really need, the technology is out there, the cars are there to buy, what we really need now is some reassurance which will involve all sorts of different stakeholders including government, so we need certainty that the government grant will continue and we also need to see more investment in infrastructure. we are going to have to leave it there. we also need a quick hit on the markets if we can. emerging market currencies are back under pressure — we've seen a really bad time for lots of the emerging market currencies. they are as bad as they have been since the lira meltdown. challenging high street conditions hit profits hitting dfs and ted baker profits. that's all the business news. let's return to the news that

ubereats couriers and a small number of workers from jd wetherspoon, mcdonald's and tgi fridays are striking over pay. we can now speak to the shadow chancellorjohn mcdonnell who is at a rally in central london. good morning. how many of these workers are on the short—term contracts you've said contribute to a workplace environment of insecurity not seen since the 1930s? large numbers are and zero hours, so they are insecure about how many hours they work each week. many are on low pay and also many of them feel there is a lack of respect for them at work. what people are doing now is coming out on strike and they are joined now is coming out on strike and they arejoined by others in demonstrations to say basically they wa nt demonstrations to say basically they want these companies to band

zero—hour contracts, make sure people have a real living wage, we say £10 an hour but in addition recognise the trade unions seeking to represent them. these demands are not an awful lot for companies to respect. clearly, some people like the flexibility of working in the gig economy but they also want greater protection and greater rights. and more security. how would labour insure all of those things can meld together? we've been following the debate that has happened in recent years. if you look at the way the debate is going, i think notjust the workers themselves but wider society now is saying we cannot build an economy on low wages and insecure work. when labour comes to power we've made it clear we will ban zero—hours contracts, people will have guaranteed hours contracts, we will ensure people have employment rights from day one and we will introduce a real living wage of £10 an hour.

we've also said we'll establish a department of employment which will have responsibility of re—establishing sectoral collective bargaining. in that way we overcome thoseissues bargaining. in that way we overcome those issues but we also then ensure there is a decent relationship between employers and workers so you don't need demonstrations like today. are you confident this will boost productivity? if you look at what is happening across the world, in mcdonald's, you'll see in other countries agreements are being reached to recognise trade unions and also there has been an uplift in pay and an abolition of insecure work in this way. we are not asking... these workers aren't asking... these workers aren't asking for the year, they are asking for companies to abide by international labour organisation conventions which will secure them basic rights at work. there's been an underestimation by these

companies about the strength of feeling not just by companies about the strength of feeling notjust by the workers themselves but in the wider society. 0nly themselves but in the wider society. only a few weeks ago the ippr published its report and the archbishop of well —— archbishop welby was saying the same things which is that these workers need decent pay and secure working conditions. i would like to ask you about this news conference involving british and dutch officials in the hague, talking about the disruption of the cyber attack on the 0pcw, the organisation for the prevention of chemical weapons which was at the time working on the salisbury poisoning cases, talking also about other close access attacks by the gru. does more need to be done to stop hostile actions by russia although russia is of course denying involvement? if they are denying it,

now is the responsibility of our government and others to publish the ha rd government and others to publish the hard evidence, demonstrated the russians this evidence exists and ta ke russians this evidence exists and take appropriate action. my view has a lwa ys take appropriate action. my view has always been, if the evidence is there and it's increasingly likely it is, publish it, expose it, and yes you can use the traditional mechanisms of expelling diplomats. to be frank, i don't think that particularly works. my view is effective sanctions, financial sanctions will work. the city of london has had a large amount of russian money coming through it from russian money coming through it from russian oligarchs, many of them associated with the putin regime. the way to ensure effective sanctions is to hit people in their pockets. in that way you exposed what's going on, you make sure the russians come to the table and we end these practices. thank you very much for your time. more on that

dutch news conference coming up. you're watching bbc newsroom live. now the weather with simon king. many of us this morning across southern parts of england started off on southern parts of england started offona southern parts of england started off on a misty and murky start. we have some folk around the airports. still a bit misty out there across southern parts. further north, rain moving into scotland and the far north—west of ireland through the afternoon. elsewhere across northern and western areas it remains cloudy but there will be holes developing in the cloud in eastern areas. it will feel quite warm, temperatures getting up to about 20 celsius. through tonight, this rain will move further south into northern england across northern parts of wales. associated with the cold front. you

notice behind the cold front we've got these blues moving in, colder air moving in across scotland. significant drop in temperatures across here. england and wales quite cloudy, still warm at 22. this is bbc news. i'm annita macveigh these are the top stories developing at midday. dutch and british security forces foil an attempt by four russian spies to mount a cyber attack on the chemical weapons body looking into the poisoning of the skripals. this disruption happened in april, around that time the 0pcw was working to independently verify analysis of the chemical weapons used in the poisoning of skripals in salisbury. the dutch military shows how the russian team set up hacking equipment in a car parked next to the 0pcw in the hague last april. it comes as britain identifies the hackers behind a campaign of global cyber attacks as coming from russia's military

intelligence agency. we are going to be clear, where russia acts in an indiscriminate and reckless way, where they have done in terms of the cyber attacks, we will expose them. leaving the eu without a deal could lead to recession, warns the boss of rbs. british aid charities launch a fundraising appeal for survivors of the indonesian earthquake and tsunami, at least 14 hundred people died in the disaster. a second british woman dies after having ‘brazilian butt lift‘ surgery abroad a 29—year—old woman from leeds reportedly died after travelling to turkey to undergo the surgery toddlers on tablets — three quarters of children aged under five now have their own tablet, smart—phone or computer good afternoon.

welcome to bbc newsroom live. the russian intelligence service, the gru, has been accused of launching a cyber attack on the global chemical weapons watchdog — which had been investigating the salisbury nerve agent attack. officials in the netherlands — where the organisation for the prohibition of chemical weapons is based — said four russians had been expelled in the wake of the alleged cyber strike. british intelligence helped thwart the operation, which was launched in april, a month after the salisbury novichok poisoning. russia has always denied carrying out any chemical attacks. the russian ambassador in the neatherlands has been summoned to give an explaination. let's look at the key points that have emerged four russians have been expelled by dutch security services for a cyber attack plot which

happened in april the operation by russia's gru military intelligence allegedly targeted the organisation for the prevention of chemical weapons in the hague. the 0pcw has been probing the chemical attack on a russian ex—spy in the uk, as well as the use of chemical weapons in syria officials released pictures of the four suspects, authorities say the group had diplomatic passports and included an it expert as well as support agents. pictures of the car used by the suspects were also released, showing the technical setup allegedly used in the attack. peter wilson, the british ambassador to the netherlands, said there was no doubt the russian military intelligence service — the gru — was behind a number of cyber attacks. another of the cyber actors identified as the gru was sandworm, active in the wake

of the salisbury attacks. i can reveal that they were behind the following attempted intrusions. in march, straight after the salisbury attack, the gru attempted to compromise uk foreign and commonwealth computer systems via a spear phishing attack. in april, gru intrusions targeted both the computers of the uk defence and science technology laboratory as well as the organisation for the prohibition of chemical weapons. in may, gru hackers send a spear fishing e—mail which impersonated swiss federal authorities to target 0pcw employees directly, and thus 0pcw computer systems. these cyber attacks were carried out remotely by gru teams based in russia. alongside our allies,

the uk is committed to confronting, exposing and disrupting gru activity. their pattern of behaviour is exemplified by the reckless attempted operation against the 0pcw headquarters in the hague, brilliantly disrupted by the dutch security services. but it's wider implications bear repeating. as our attribution is today have made clear, the gru has interfered in free elections and pursued a hostile campaign of cyber attacks against state and civilian targets. the gru is an aggressive, well funded official body of the russian state. it can no longer be allowed to act aggressively across the world against vital international organisations, with apparent impunity. that was the british ambassador to

the netherlands. that was the british ambassador to the netherlands. 0ur correspondent sarah rainsford is in moscow. first of all, what reaction has there been from moscow to this? there are a bunch of accusations now coming at moscow from various sides. ina way coming at moscow from various sides. in a way it's difficult for the russians to respond to them. what we did today was their weekly briefing of the foreign ministry where they talked about a cocktail, a diabolical cocktail of accusations which she dismissed out of hand with her usual scathing tone. she said that the rich fantasy of russia's collea g u es that the rich fantasy of russia's colleagues in britain knows no bounds. she said who is making this 7 bounds. she said who is making this he bounds. she said who is making this up? she would love to look them in the face, she said. she said the british arejudging the face, she said. she said the british are judging russia the face, she said. she said the british arejudging russia by the face, she said. she said the british are judging russia by the things they do themselves. the traditional scathing tone, mocking town to baritone by russia, and

across the board, denial of everything the russians are accused of. that's what you would expect, i guess. russia say the two men accused of the salisbury attack had been on holiday, had gone to see salisbury cathedral, a bit of detail coming out of the hague this morning, is that the man whose pictures were shown at the news conference, one of their phones was activated in moscow in april, near the gru, one was carrying a taxi receipt from a street right by the gru to the international airport in the netherlands on the 10th of april. he few days before the attack was disrupted. have there been any specific response to these individuals in the netherlands? no, buti individuals in the netherlands? no, but i think we should bear in mind that we are talking about different people, for in the netherlands, and to accused of travelling to salisbury. as i

understand it's these six individuals. certainly, the evidence about the identity of the two salisbury suspects has been emerging and mounting by the day, russia is sticking to its firm position that these two men were tourists, civilians, president putin has said that. but evidence is emerging that investigative journalist here are digging more and more all the time. 0ur digging more and more all the time. our own team travel to the far east to discover more about the identity of the salisbury suspects and we are sure he is an intelligence officer. that is the allegation about the four—man identified as gru operatives, expelled from the hague, from holland after this latest incident. russia continues its traditional pattern of denying everything. when mr putin was asked about accusations against russia he launched a very vicious personal attack against skripals himself, but

made no mention and was not asked about the suggestion that intelligence officers from russia we re intelligence officers from russia were behind the attempted killing and his swathes of other attacks. particularly cyber security attacks. thank you very much for that. let's go to the hague with the news conference was happening, let's talk to our correspondence. a fascinating amount of detail in that news conference about that thwarted attack, the disrupted attack in april amongst other things, take us through the key points. chronologically, the dutch intelligence services, who we have been hearing from in a press conference here in the hague shared a phenomenal amount of detail, a paper trail of how these for alleged gru operatives arrived in april 2018, pictured at the airport accompanied by a member of the russian embassy. and then they

conducted days of reconnaissance around the organisation for the prohibition of chemical weapons, the 0pcw hearing the hague. they set up in the boot of the car a hacking device, they were trying to use it to access the organisation's computer systems, why does this matter? well, the 0pcw was investigating the attack in salisbury on sergei skripal, but also the alleged use of chemical weapons in syria. we've been given a case file of this operation. we heard from the british ambassador, peter wilson, who said one of the reasons they are exposing so much detail, things like train tickets and taxi receipts, as you heard today from sarah, was to expose these operations, the those gru operations, and bring them out of

the shadows. to expose them to the light and hope they curtail their activities in the future. it wasn't just here in the netherlands, they retrieved a number of mobile phones and a laptop which showed various logins to wi—fi hotspots here in the netherlands, also in malaysia where they were investigating an incident that left 219 people dead injuly 20 14. they say that this detail shows that the gru operatives are increasingly brazen, and that in order to try to stop them they have to try to constantly expose their activities, this is why we've been hearing such detailfrom activities, this is why we've been hearing such detail from the hague today. they showed many photographs of the arrests of the four men. they we re of the arrests of the four men. they were expelled from the netherlands on the same day. they were intercepted by the dutch intelligence officers here. let me tell you the nato secretary

general is saying that nato backs the dutch and british governments on cyber attacks, and they must call to russia on blatant attempt to undermine international law and institutions. 0ur diplomatic correspondent paul adams joins me now. as sarah was saying a few moments ago, russia continue with their policy of denial. looking at the amount of detail released by the dutch and british officials today at this news conference, one has a sense that that detail is there to try to counteract the denials? nothing has changed in the russian approach to this, since the spring. they continue to refer to the poisoning as the so—called sergei skripal affair. nothing poisoning as the so—called sergei skripalaffair. nothing is poisoning as the so—called sergei skripal affair. nothing is going to change, no amount of proof for photographs, presentations, will change the fact that the russians deny absolutely, and will continue

to deny, that they had anything to do with this. what we've witnessed at the hague this morning was absolutely astonishing. i won't say unprecedented, because someone will find another example, but for two countries to lay out a case in such extraordinary detail, of a counter espionage investigation, is extremely unusual. it suggests a very, very high degree of certainty. the level of detail is such we've not seen at any point this year. the photographs, timeline, the little details like the fact they had this taxi receipt from the gru headquarters to the airport in moscow. not very smart, perhaps. it is highly unusual. as i say, at the end of the day, the russians will do what they have done all along, they haven't had time to digest this morning's presentation, but they will deny this absolutely. the

number of sceptics in the west, about all of this, will be dwindling by the day. the gru is now emerging for british, dutch, and late in the day american sources, as a global villain. allow me to interrupt for a moment, we say goodbye to our viewers on bbc two. let's continue this conversation with our diplomatic correspondence, he is with me here in the studio. 0n diplomatic correspondence, he is with me here in the studio. on that us briefing later we are expecting the justice department? yes, we understand it will disclose charges against the number of intelligence officers, possibly as many as four. we don't know who they are and whether they overlap with this case. it is clearly part of a concerted international effort now. to spotlight the activities of the gru. the ambassador, the british

ambassador, peter wilson said the gru was out there, busily trying to clea n gru was out there, busily trying to clean up pressure's mess, whether it was to do with doping in the olympics, or the use of a nerve agent on the streets of salisbury. he pointedly said that through institutions including the eu, effo rts institutions including the eu, efforts would continue to improve security and punish those responsible for this kind of activity. there is always a brexit angle, and the fact that you had dutch and british officials sitting side by side was quite telling. indication from theresa may that this kind of cooperation, so vital to global security will continue, regardless of brexit. when you saw after the salisbury attack the television interview with the two suspects, perhaps i am reading too much into this, the reaction from the russian foreign ministry saying that they deny accusations, saying

it is some kind of diabolical perfume cocktail of allegations. remember, inside a person bottle the poison was sprayed. it's almost blatant, isn't it? and yet russia deny any involvement, so where does diplomacy go from here, if all that the international agencies are talking about at the moment is, you know, how to tackle cyber attacks, to tackle these close access attacks. where do you begin to talk about diplomacy? i don't think you do. it's more thanjust blatant, it's very blatant. we treat this with a mixture of scathing sarcastic language, and deny, also, but nod and wink at the same time. i think at the moment all the effort, all the british diplomatic effort, has been to rally international support,

to share in, perhaps, unprecedented ways, intelligence, and it has reaped dividends. it resulted in this huge mass expulsion of russian diplomats, that we saw earlier in the year. it's resulted in what we saw this morning. you know, an effort now, not just saw this morning. you know, an effort now, notjust to make this general accusation against the russian state, but to specifically go after a particular organisation. six of whose members have been noted. the two were involved in the skripals affair, and before described today, named, and photographed in the dutch investigation. this is an astonishing effort to highlight the activities of an organisation most people horribly had never heard of until a few weeks ago at least outside the intelligence world. i think the british government will ta ke think the british government will take some degree of satisfaction from the fact that a lot of people

are drawing the same conclusions. thank you very much. joining me now is philip ingram, a former senior intelligence officer in the british army. thank you for your time today as well on this story. do you think we are seeing a hardening of the approach from the intelligence services, not only in the uk but other countries to these cyber attacks and close access attacks?” think it's more than a approach, we are being proactive. up until now it was reactive. the statement last night from the british ncsc is the first time, i believe, we are seeing proactive attacks against gru. after theresa may's dancing queen ‘s speech in birmingham, she is now going out there with a rocky tactic that she promised on the 5th of september when she said the uk will work with allies to shine a light on activities of gru and expose their methods. it's going to take a

coordinated effort from a number of countries, given the size, scale, resources that russian intelligence has. it's going to need a coordinated effort from other countries, isn't it? we are seeing that. this is unprecedented. the australians came out last night to support the british, we expect that, they are part of the five eyes group, the americans are part of that as well. for the dutch to do this and work with them, reinforces the statement from the head of the russian foreign intelligence services earlier on this week, he described the skripals case as an professionally done. i think that was a sideswipe at the gru. we are seeing the detritus being picked up in the public, it isjust bad jails. it is very professionally done. in the public, it isjust bad jails. it is very professionally donem that deliberate? having a paper

trail like that? taxi receipt, you know, obviously people can't triangulate and find out where phones were switched on and so forth. is that laziness, recklessness, why do you think there is that trail? i think it's a reflection of gru arrogance. it should not happen, any intelligence operator, surveillance operator, going out, one of the last things you do before you leave the house, or leave your base, is you take anything of a personal nature a way with you. you only carry what you need for the operation. they are getting this wrong. finally and briefly, can russian keep on denying this? they will do. it's their doctrine. they have a word in russian that means telling a lie, knowing that no will ever believe it. thank you very much, a former

senior intelligence officer, philip ingram. that's a new word for us. telling a lie, even though you know nobody will believe you. that's an interesting theory. we move away from this now, let's take a look at the sport. many think he's the best player of all time, and last night at wembley lionel messi showed why that might be. lionel messi's spent a career taking breath away. this was a game that made even him doubt. geniuses still have to sweat. and from the go messi worked. his presence brought tottenham's hugo lloris from his goal 90 seconds in. coutinho did the rest. the problem for spurs is that once you have stopped lionel messi or coutinho or luis suarez, ivan rakitic does this. don't try that at home. for a time, tottenham looked as threadbare as the warn wembley pitch,

damage from last weekend's joshua fight. harry kane came off the ropes with a mighty counter—punch. 2—1, for about four minutes. then barcelona went up a gear without ever revving the engine. the scorer, lionel messi, of course. he had already hit the post was. surely game over. somehow spurs surge once more. somehow erik lamela's shot went in. somehow they believed. they were fighting into the final minute of the 90. but when messi gets it there the result‘s inevitable. brilliant calm in brilliant chaos. a less frantic but similarly draining night for liverpool in naples. they lost their summer signing naby keita to injury the first and never quite found their rhythm. napoli are second in the league and liverpool cannot say they were not warned. in the last minute of the 90 they did win it. a local boy once called the italian lionel messi, in those moments it must have felt like the real thing. gareth bale has been

included in the wales squad for their matches against spain and republic of ireland. he missed real madrid's defeat to cska moscow in the champions league this week through injury, but is one of 25 players named by ryan giggs. joe ledley misses out because of injury and his withdrawal means there are two changes overall with tom lockyer also ruled out. george thomas and jazz richards come in for the two games that include the friendly against spain that'll be wales' first game at the principality stadium since 2011. lindsey smith has been called up to bat who helped the surrey stars win the super league. no place for three world cup winners,. but all the sport, back to you, neater. the white house says it's received the fbi report on sexual misconduct allegations against president trump's supreme court nominee, brett kavanaugh. senators will also be given a copy of the report to review before

they vote on whether to approve mr kavanaugh‘s nomination. he strongly denies any wrongdoing. let's speak to our washington correspondent gary o'donoghue. gary, we are seeing that the white house, we are told, finds no evidence supporting sexual misconduct allegations against brett kavanaugh in the fbi investigation, according to some reports, is that inappropriate for the white house to say this? well, i think this is par for the course. what you will get todayis for the course. what you will get today is the congress, senators in congress, looking at it for themselves. there is only one copy of this and it will be stuck in a secure room , senators of this and it will be stuck in a secure room, senators will be allowed to go in, look at it, and read it but not take notes. they will have to leave any notes they ta ke will have to leave any notes they take in there. they will traipse in

party by party, after hour, until they have all read it. i think the danger is that the democrats have already said they didn't think enough people were interviewed by the fbi. they wanted two dozen people spoken to the republicans wa nted people spoken to the republicans wanted for people spoken to. you can see the shape of the narrative before you've even heard from him. i have no doubt we will hear some of the contacts because you can't keep that the secret with few hundred politicians. are there enough republicans who will have enough doubt about skripals eat—macro brett kavanaugh to bar his nomination? they will be three on the fence. they will be three on the fence. they will be crucial votes. simply because of the maths in the senate. they are 51 to the democrats, they can't afford to lose those three. some democrats may decide to vote with the nomination, but they will probably vote on block, this group of undecideds. what we will get is a

process where we have a day to read this document, tomorrow they will be a procedural vote, and on saturday will probably be the real vote. we will probably be the real vote. we will get a clear indication tomorrow about whether brett kavanaugh will get through. if i was a betting man, i would say he probably would, but it has so many twists and turns, who can tell? thank you very much, guardian washington. a man has appeared in court charged with the murders of eight members of the same family, who died in a house fire in huddersfield in 2002. shahid mohammed, who used to live in huddersfield, was extradited back to the uk from pakistan. let's get more from our news correspondent phil bodmer. bring us up to date with what's been happening, and the background to this case. this was a very short appearance at lee's magistrate court, lasting less than two

minutes, but as you mention, shahid mohammed spoke only to confirm his name and date of birth. the 36—year—old, formerly from huddersfield is charged with the murders of five children, and the adults. and one count of conspiracy to commit arson with intent to endanger life. that follows that fatal house fire in the birtley area of huddersfield in may 2002. eight members of one family died, during that fire in a terraced house in the town. shahid mohammed was extradited back to the uk from pakistan by officers from the west yorkshire police. he has support from the national crime agency, the british high commission in islamabad, the crown prosecution service and the local authorities working in pakistan. shahid mohammed has been held in prison in islamabad since january 2015 when he was picked up

by the authorities. that was a joint operation between uk and pakistani authorities, working with the national crime industry. shahid mohammed was remanded in custody to make another appearance before leeds crown court tomorrow morning. thank you for that update. let's find out some more about what the boss of the royal bank of scotla nd the boss of the royal bank of scotland has been saying, he has warned that a no—deal brexit could put the uk economy into recession. he told the bbc that a bad brexit could result in zero or negative growth, which would hit rbs's share price. he said the bank was careful about lending to certain sectors of the economy, particularly retail and construction. we look at what we would expect on a normal economic consensus, it's about one to 1.5%,

if we get a no growth in the economy, and 0k brexit scenario, if we get a hard brexit scenario, there are other factors that says it will be less than that and the economy may well go down to zero or negative growth next year if brexit is very very harsh. time now for a look at the weather with simon king. it's been another mild start for many of us. significant changes to the temperatures in northern parts over the next few days. this morning some rain moving into the north and west of scotland. there could be some patchy rain and drizzle in northern england, fog will clear away, and will have the best of any sunny spells. temperatures up to 21 degrees. overnight tonight, more cloud, rain moves further south. a

cold front, you will notice the cold front filtering in behind it. a chilly start to friday morning across scotland and northern ireland. temperatures in single figures. elsewhere, quite mild with temperatures about ten or 12 degrees. sunday to drag on friday, some sunny spells but chilly in the north. this is bbc news. our latest headlines. dutch officials say they expelled four russians in april — over a plot targeting the chemical weapons watchdog. they claim the cyber operation by russia's gru military intelligence targeted the organisation for the prevention of chemical weapons in the hague. the dutch military demonstrated during a news conference how the russian team set up hacking equipment in a car parked next to the 0pcw in the hague last april. it comes as britain identifies the hackers behind a campaign

of global cyber attacks as coming from russia's military intelligence agency. british aid charities launch a fundraising appeal for survivors of the indonesian earthquake. at least 1400 people died when the 7.5 magnitude quake struck just 1400 people died when the 7.5 magnitude quake struckjust off the island of sulawesi last friday. more now on our top story: the netherlands has accused russia's military intelligence service, the gru, of carrying out a cyber attack on the international chemical weapons watchdog, the 0pcw. in a joint security briefing, the uk said the russian intelligence officers had tried to destabilise western democracies by hacking into the world anti—doping agency and other targets in the us, britain and ukraine. the foreign secretaryjeremy hunt

has been responding. if anyone had any questions in their mind about russian military involvement in the salisbury attacks, this will put to rest those doubts because here you have evidence of the russian military launching a cyber attack on the very organisation, the international organisation in the netherlands set up to investigate those novichok attacks. why would you do that if you weren't the guilty party? the reality is this is pa rt guilty party? the reality is this is part of a pattern of cyber attacks in the uk, the us, malaysia, switzerland and now the netherlands. the russian government needs to know that if they flout international law in this way there will be consequences. they will be exposed, and people will see the russian government for what they are which is an organisation that is trying to

fester instability throughout the world, and that is totally unacceptable. today the uk has called out russia, specifically the gru, in terms of this cyber activity. most freshly the attacks on the 0pcw. what physical action beyond words if the uk and its allies going to do, beyond what's been done already? the first thing we are doing is to expose it, and the words matter because there are countries all over the world that are hearing both sides of the story. they are hearing what the russians say as well. this is the evidence that what we are getting from russia is fake news and here is the hard evidence of russian military activity. of course it will go beyond that, and that's why we will beyond that, and that's why we will be discussing with our allies what further sanctions should be imposed, and we will also be discussing how we will be working with our friends and allies to counter these cyber

attacks, the new type of attack the whole world is having to deal with. you said today how the gru was behind the hack on the democratic national committee. is there any evidence, have you seen any evidence of russian interference in the brexit referendum? we haven't seen that interference but we are always monitoring these things. what russia needs to know is if they do any of these things, but most of all if they tried to interfere with the democratic processes in other countries, it will be exposed and there will be consequences. jeremy hunt saying if anyone had any doubts about russian involvement he said the evidence presented today puts to rest those doubts. theresa may and her dutch counterpart have jointly accused russia of this

regarding global values by trying to hack global institutions such as the 0pcw. we saw lots of detail on the attack disrupted at that organisation at the news conference earlier. the leaders saying this attempt to access the secure system ofan attempt to access the secure system of an international organisation working to rid the world of chemical weapons demonstrates the gru's disregard for global values and rules that keep us all safe. that statement from theresa may and her dutch counterpart mark rutte issued inajoint dutch counterpart mark rutte issued in a joint statement. rescue workers are making final attempts to find survivors of last week's earthquake and tsumami in indonesia. at least 1,400 people are known to have been killed in last friday's disaster — but officials expect the number to rise as many people are still missing. british aid charities are appealing for emergency funds. the disasters emergency committee says 200,000 people need clean water, food and medical care. 0ur correspondent hywel griffith is is the city of palu which was badly hit by the tsunami —

he gave me this update on the situation on the ground. when light fell the rescue teams had to finish for the day. they've spent all day with the cranes and diggers trying to start to go through the rubble. i guess in the hope of finding survivors, realistically in the prospect of finding potentially hundreds of bodies in there which will eventually add to the death toll, that is now at 1400 but as eve ryo ne toll, that is now at 1400 but as everyone has been saying that's only in the areas where they've been able to confirm death. there are still some places in the northern part of the island they haven't been able to reach. the lack of power has been hampering things. some electricity is returning to parts of the city, but clearly not everywhere yet. that has two impacts. 0ne, moving around

the search and rescue. two, security. we met some people at the airport wanting to get home simply because they don't yet feel 100% safe. is road access still hugely difficult, are you talking about aid agencies and others still relying largely on air power to get to various locations? yes. we know that there has been some improvements. we are told the main road from here to dongala has been opened today. but from there and further up tamora motown ‘s and villages are still impassable. although the aircraft is able to land, we have seen international outreach from singapore and australia, otherwise its air dropping things. we've not seen a huge amount of that. aid

still not able to get beyond the main urban conurbation. three out of four children underfive—years—old now have their own tablet, smart—phone or computer. figures from research group childwise suggests pre—school children are increasingly using the devices to watch online video, sometimes for up to three hours a day. here's our technology correspondent rory cellan—jones. what about this one? the round one? for decades, television has been a big feature in the lives of very young children, but now new technology is changing the way they view and what they see. this research shows that three quarters of under—five—year—olds now have access to a connected devices such as a tablet or smartphone and half of all three and four—year—olds have their own one. what are they doing with them? playing games and watching a lot of video. childwise questioned 1,000 parents of under—fives, they revealed that their children watch tv and online video for two hours and 48 minutes a day on average. cbeebies was still the most popular channel, with 63% watching.

that is dropping as they turn to things like youtube. which was viewed by almost half of all preschool children. boys are watching for longer periods than girls, but overall viewing is on the rise, and children are getting access to a wide range of programmes on everything from the disney channel to netflix. the research also found voice—controlled gadgets such as amazon eco or siri were in two thirds of preschool children's homes and they were using them to play nursery rhymes or ask questions, such as "how big is the moon?" joining me now is janet read, professor in child computer interaction at the university of central lancashire. i don't think many people are too surprised by the amount of time children as young as this are spending each day and laptops, but

the fact so many of them have their own device, perhaps it's slightly more surprising. yes, there has been a market for devices for small children for some time. one of the reasons for parents buying things is because they don't want to play with their own devices which are typically more expensive. if you break your phone, you don't want your child to be breaking those things. we are talking about those gerrish many tablets for kids, are we? yes, to some extent. the research we've done shows that pa rents research we've done shows that parents have problem with tablets breaking because small children will drop them. the smaller the device, the less expensive it is. i don't think if any surprise children are using tablets, it's not necessarily a bad thing. they are simply

mimicking what they see around them. in your opinion, how much good quality content is there out there for these very young children? well, content is a real problem, not because there is not good content, there are a fantastic start—up companies, but there's so much it's really difficult for parents to find good content. in our research in schools and homes, bbc content is selected because parents feel safe with it and it's got a brand. 0ther suppliers had to gain the confidence of pa rents, suppliers had to gain the confidence of parents, they don't want to be switching off to adverts or your children opening up certain things. young children are very sophisticated tablet users. what represents a good interaction, and how much is too much? how much time is too much for children of this

age, the under fives, is too much for children of this age, the underfives, using tablets and phones? what you have to understand with interaction with the ta blet understand with interaction with the tablet or phone, it's not the amount of time, it's the quality of what's happening at that point. if the child is spending quality time with a parent on a joint game, may be looking at somejoint a parent on a joint game, may be looking at some joint interactive content, that's really nice quality time for the child and parent. for the child to be on its own looking through non—specified video kind of thing, that's not a good interaction. what we need to do is look at how to design great apps for children which need to respond to their ability to understand what's happening, to interact and do they know what's happening when they are clicking here or there, rather than just being entertainment products. that's something we're not sure about yet. three hours, which was the average, is that too much for the average, is that too much for the under fives? i think they said

two hours 48. it's hard to know what that represents. it seems relatively high but at the same time there are extremes one end and another. i think a lot of under fives are spending an hourand think a lot of under fives are spending an hour and a half, half an hour here, half an hour there. i don't think there's a number to be put on that, i think what's important is what they are doing with the tablet devices is profitable, good for them and helps them get outside, helps them to understand the world and interact. what they are doing is far more important than the time being taken. i know the government is thinking about a policy and media time and giving parents advice, parents need a lot of help with digital parenting. an hour or two hour or three hours suggestion isn't going to help parents, really. we need to have a mature conversation about how we integrate tablet technology and other computer technology into home

life so they are beneficial to children. thank you. the lawyer representing a woman who says she was raped by cristiano ronaldo says the me too campaign inspired her to come forward. kathryn mayorga says she was attacked by the footballer in a las vegas hotel room nine years ago — something he firmly denies. bbc dj mark radcliffe has announced he's taking time off from his radio 2 and 6music shows to undergo treatment for mouth cancer. he told listeners about his diagnosis while presenting "the folk show" on wednesday evening. he says he hopes to be back on—air in the new year. the bbc has discovered that a second british woman has died after having "brazilian butt lift" surgery abroad. the procedure involves injecting fat from one part of your body into your backside to lift it up.

this type of surgery has the highest death rate of all cosmetic procedures — one in 3,000 people die having it. in august, 29—year—old leah cambridge from leeds died after undergoing such surgery at a clinic in turkey. now the victoria derbyshire programme has discovered that a second british woman — in her late 20s — lost her life after having a brazilian butt lift or bbl at a different clinic this year. chi chi izundu has this report, and a warning it contains images of post surgey complications. this is the look a lot of young women want, the kim kardashian look of a raised, perky, round bum. but those women feel the only to get that look is opting for surgery commonly called a brazilian butt lift, otherwise known as the bbl. brazilian bum lift surgery has the highest death rate of all cosmetic procedures, due to the risk of injecting fat into large veins in the buttocks

that can travel to the heart or brain and cause severe illness or death. in august, 29—year—old leah cambridge died after having a bbl procedure in turkey. the bbc has learned of one other fatality of a british woman who has undergone bbl surgery abroad at a different clinic. an inquest is due to be held within the next year. two years ago, this woman had surgery in turkey. she said she wanted it because her body had changed after having kids. she signed a waiver, she was never given a copy, and the first time she met her surgeon was ten minutes before being put under general anaesthetic. she wants to remain anonymous over fears of legal action from the clinic. a few days after i woke up with really high fevers. i didn't tell any of the nurses. ijust wanted to go home and get to the uk doctors to have a look at me. still feeling ill, she went to her nhs doctor and eventually ended up in a&e, who established her infection was as a result of her surgery. i got admitted to hospital

for five days and i ended up on iv antibiotics. luckily one of them worked for me. for the first few days nothing was working and my infection was getting worse and worse. i know other girls where antibiotics didn't really work for them so they ended up with really bad infection wounds all over the buttocks area, the thighs and everywhere. this woman says she still has pain from that surgery. british women are paying up to £5,000 for bbl surgery. one of the concerns is that if the fact is injected into a dangerous deeper areas, and that is because the gluteus maximus, the buttock muscles, are the biggest muscles in the body, so the vessels are really big and the veins are really big.

if the fat is injected into the vein, it can go into the circulation, through the heart and into the lungs, and cause a fat embolus, which is the bit of fat that gets lodged in the heart or the lungs. that can cause death. we spoke to other girls who had undergone bbl surgery, like this 23—year—old in wales. she says she is scarred for life as a result of her procedure. this social media star nearly underwent the procedure but decided against it. sometimes you don't realise as an influence how much influence you have got. nobody is perfect, she has got a belly and a bum, so i can accept myself. it really doesn't need to be done. chi chi izundu reporting there, and you can see more on that report on the victoria derbyshire programme page on the bbc website. the headlines on bbc news. dutch and british security forces foil an attempt by four russian spies — who were planning a cyber attack on the chemical weapons body looking into the poisoning of the skripals. the chief executive of royal bank

of scotland has warns that leaving the eu without a deal could tip the uk economy into recession. uk aid agencies launch an appeal for emergency funds to help the survivors of the earthquake and tsunami in indonesia. it's been almost a year since blue planet ii highlighted the damage plastic is doing to marine life. one of the items under scrutiny is the plastic straw — now demand for a paper version has soared and it's provided a business opprtunity for producers in the uk — as our consumer affairs correspondent coletta smith finds out. and this is lovely! this time last year, sandra and herfamily were doing what most of the country were doing. everyone was talking about blue planet, and we were watching it and thinking, you know, there is something we can do here. but unlike the rest of us, sandra and a group of friends decided to take a pretty bold decision.

so we said, "let's try and go and do this, let's get some paper straw machines and try and get rid of the plastic straws out there that you find on all the beaches and on the streets and in the gutters and all the rest of it," so that's what we did. we started with one machine. we didn't know how to work it, but now we're at four machines. it's still small—scale at the moment, but these machines are churning out one million straws a week. there's a growing list of orders as customers in hotels, cafes and pubs are demanding change. we do find that people are deliberately asking to not have the straw in the drink. it's not until we tell them that we actually do have paper straws that they will accept it anyway. with bars, restaurants and cafes all struggling to keep up with customer demand at the moment, if you are given a paper straw, the likelihood is it's going to have been flown in from china, and that raises more questions aboutjust how green it really is. so this is our main warehouse

where we pick our main orders... there's a big change in orders at henry's catering supply company. they now sell more paper straws than plastic ones, but he has to fly them in as no—one could make another straws quickly enough here. customers will buy a box of 250 of the plastic straws, they probably pay about 75p to £1 for a box of those. the paper straws are £3 and £4 for a box of 250. that's still, what, four times... still four times the price, three to four times the price of the plastic straw. so you've had bars and restaurants coming to you saying their customers are demanding paper straws? absolutely, and i think this trend is consumer—led. they don't want plastic straws in their drinks, so it's really driven by the end user. even companies as big as mcdonald's have now swallowed that extra cost and switched to paper straws as customers want to feel like they're doing their bit for the environment. to make it a greener choice, sandra's hoping that more of those straws will be made here in the uk. who knows how big this could be,

but we're really excited with the process — and it's great to be making a change. coletta smith, bbc news. the winner of the royal institute of british architects‘ most prestigious award — the riba stirling prize — will be announced next week. the nominations to become britain's best new building include a student housing development, a cemetery, and a nursery school. we'll look at each building in the shortlist over the next few days — and today it's the turn of the new tate at st ives in cornwall by jamie fobert architects with evans & shalev. it's a reconfiguration and extension of the postmodern art gallery which doubles the exhibition space and creates a new public walkway connecting the town to the beach. tate came to st ives because of this amazing legacy here —

an artists' colony that started in the early 19th century and continues to this day. we got to this point where we had four times as many visitors as we expected, so the gallery was bursting at the seams. the community wanted the gallery to expand, but at the same time they wanted it to be integrated into the landscape. we did this by excavating into the cliff side, so that we could create the largest possible gallery level with the existing galleries. st ives sits as a spit of sand out into the atlantic, which captures both the east and west light. it was this particular double light that attracted artists here in the first place. the roof of the gallery is made up of massive concrete beams, above which are six very large light chambers that capture this very particular light of st ives. you could say that they liked was the primary material around which the gallery was built.

——you could say that daylight was the primary material around which the gallery was built. besides the gallery, it was incredibly important that we provide art handling and staff spaces, and this created a small building that sat above this landscape. as it was looking out to sea and up at the sky, we chose to clad the building in a glazed tile — which reflects the sea and the sky and captures these two primal elements of the cornish landscape. you don't realise the scale of how big this build is and how clever it was to imagine that it would fit here, until you actually come into the finished space and you see it for the first time — and it was just amazing. i'm just thrilled. to me, this is a testament to true dialogue with the communities of cornwall, resulting in incredible architecture. you can find out more about all of the nominated buildings

on the bbc arts website and watch this year's riba stirling prize live here on the bbc news channel next wednesday evening between 8.30 and 9.00. the paris auto show opens its doors to the public on thursday. it's one of the biggest car exhibitions on the calendar — and attracts automobile enthusiasts from around the world. the latest models will be on display — including one very unusual vehicle — that's not as fast as it looks. the bbc‘s tim allman explains. this is a car show, this is a car. so far, nothing out of the ordinary. but look closely. this car is not quite what it seems. it may appear to be a bugatti — the high—powered favourite of petrol heads the world over, but it's actually an exact replica made out of little plastic bricks. more than1 million pieces of lego technic that i put together

to achieve this model. it's 1.5 tonnes, so 1,500kg of lego plastic put together. it's built the same way as we will do a traditional lego model. but this isn't any old replica. it's a fully—functional working automobile. the engineers at lego technic wanted to create a plastic car you can actually drive. not very fast, mind you. with a top speed of 30kph, it's not quite as quick as the original — which can hit 400kph. i think everything was a challenge, but mainly the development of the motor because it's a lego motor, plastic motor and electrics. so, hard to drive 1,500kg. it was a challenge. no plans for mass production, as chances are the lego version would melt.

tim allman, bbc news. in a moment it's time for the 1 o'clock news with ben brown, but first it's time for a look at the weather with chris fawkes. although it's been a mild start to the day it's also been pretty grey and drab. extensive low cloud, mist and drab. extensive low cloud, mist and fog patches out and about. the grey skies setting of the autumn colours earlier on today in devon. although it's cloudy at the moment for the vast majority of us, we've got this stripe of cloud working towards the uk which is a weather front. that will push southwards of it allowing cooler air into the northern half of the country. that weather front will continue to bring some wet weather across scotland and northern ireland as we go into this evening. if you patches of rain from northern england and the north of wales. overnight the weather front

becomes slow—moving, its stores across those areas. to the south it's relatively mild but again, a lot of low cloud and mist and fog patches, particularly over the hills. a bit of drizzle around as well. colder air getting into scotla nd well. colder air getting into scotland and northern ireland, and there could be some pockets of frost to start the day on friday. 0n friday our weather front will continue to be slow—moving across parts of wales and northern ireland. across these areas it will be great, cloudy and wet with further outbreaks of rain. toward the south, mist and fog patches slowly lifting. the cloud may break to give some sunny spells but across scotland after a cold and frosty start the day we are looking at some beautiful autumn conditions, lots of sunshine and a few isolated showers in the north—west. for most of england wales staying grey on friday, although the cloud could break up in the afternoon in east anglia and south—east england where temperatures could reach 22 degrees.

contrast that with the 11—12 further north. yes, it's going to be turning up north. yes, it's going to be turning up the colder. looking at the weekend, it's a wet and windy start to the weekend across a good part of england and wales. the rain lasting well into the evening across the south—east and east anglia. scotland and northern ireland have a fine start. cold to start the day, some sunshine and highs only around 11-12. the sunshine and highs only around 11—12. the second half of the weekend, a lot of drier weather with sunshine and the rain clearing away from south—east england. into the afternoon, cloud will gather and outbreaks of rain spreading into the north and west of the uk. the dutch authorities accuse russian intelligence of mounting a cyber attack on the international chemical weapons watchdog. they say they caught these four russian agents with a car boot full of electronic equipment outside the headquarters of the 0pcw. at the time, it was investigating the nerve agent attack in salisbury that poisoned sergia and yulia skripal.

britain says the russians were trying to clean up their mess. if anyone had any questions in their mind about russian military involvement in the salisbury attacks, this will put to rest those doubts because here you have evidence of the russian military launching a cyber attack on the very organisation, international organisation, in the netherlands set up to investigate those novichok attacks. and why would you do that if you weren't the guilty party?