hello. it's thursday. it's 9 o'clock. i'm victoria derbyshire. welcome to the programme. the most powerful hurricane ever to hit north—west florida is now heading for georgia. hurricane michael caused storm surges of up to 10 feet, submerging homes and ripping up trees. i saw a lot of storms but this one here was the worst i've seen. you see what it did around here. it snapped trees like they were toothpicks. we'll speak to people living in the affected areas. former conservative prime minister sirjohn major criticises the government's key welfare reform, universal credit, saying it could cause the tories the same problems as the poll tax did. in order to introduce something like a universal credit, you need to look at those people who in the short

term are going to lose and protect them or you will run into the sort of problems that the conservative party ran into with the poll tax. are you on universal credit or due to switch to it next year? do get in touch this morning. also weight hate. discrimination against people who are obese is more common in britain than prejudice against gay people and those from ethinic minorities according to new research today. we'll talk to this woman about the vicimtisation she says she's had because of her weight and ask this man who used to weigh 33 stone how he lost 21 stone in two years. and the british government is due to launch an ambitious plan to protect endangered species at a conference in london today. we'll talk to the world wildlife fund after 09:30am. hello. welcome to the programme. we're live until 11 this morning. just as we are each weekday. two

questions for you this morning. have you been discriminated against because you are overweight or obese? we were talking about that the next ten minutes so let us know your experiences. and late in the programme we will be talking about universal credit which we have discussed with you many times on this programme because it is such a big issue for some of you. are you one of those due to switch on to universal credit next year? that is the new government benefit that some people are already receiving and there is a big roll—out next april. sirjohn major, the former conservative prime minister, is today saying that it could cause big problems for this government. at the weekend labour said they would scrap universal credit if they win the next election. are you on it or due to go on it? let us know will

stop sent us an email and if you are happy for us to contact you and you would like to take part in the programme perhaps with your experiences of universal credit, please include your phone number in the email. our top story today: the most powerful storm in decades to hit the southeast of the united states is now heading towards georgia after leaving a trail of destruction in florida. hurricane michael brought storm surges of up to three metres to north—west florida, ripping up trees and tearing roofs from buildings. our north america correspondent chris buckler reports. hurricane michael came crashing into the florida coastline with extraordinary strength. at their height, the winds reached speeds of around 155 miles an hour, easily exceeding early expectations, and making it close to the most powerful category of storm. you see what it did around here. it snapped trees like they were toothpicks. it was nothing to it. i'm glad i'm still here, glad i survived, glad the car made it. in florida's mexico beach, where hurricane michael first reached land, homes were lost in the surge of rising water. and across this state, the fierce wind and rain has been

causing huge difficulties, bringing down trees and power lines. hurricane michael is the worst storm that the florida panhandle has ever seen. and one of the worst power storms ever to make landfall in the united states. the warm waters off the gulf coast saw the speed of hurricane michael's winds intensify over the last few days. even as the storm moved inland, it still had considerable force. oh, my god! this water is knee—deep back here. this is my backyard. it used to be fenced in. used to be! here's the fence. florida may have been on the front line but there are states of emergency in place in georgia and the ca rolinas. and it's obvious where michael has already been. clearing the debris and repairing the damage of this latest destructive storm will take a considerable amount of time and money. chris buckler, bbc news.

more on the storm later in the programme. let's bring you the rest of the morning's news so far with joanna. good morning. the former prime minister sirjohn major has strongly criticised the government's introduction of universal credit, where several existing benefits are rolled into one. he's warned that it could prove as damaging to the conservative party as the poll tax, which was so widely disliked that many people refused to pay. sirjohn told the bbc‘s political thinking podcast that voters would see it as unfair that low income families risked losing several thousand pounds. downing street says £3 billion has been set aside to ease the introduction of the payment. our political guru norman smith is in westminster. what had he been saying? he is echoing what many people have been saying, including conservative mps, who are worried about the roll—out of universal credit. at the moment

only about 10% of claimants are on it and over the next year they will gradually extend that to all benefit claimants and there are concerns about what this could mean about getting people to have the same level of benefits, and what about people who find it forms difficult to fill in, and concerns about the practicality of doing all this, the logistical challenge. on top of that, sirjohn major has warned about the impact on low income families. bodies like the institute for fiscal studies have warned that many, for fiscal studies have warned that any for fiscal studies have warned that many, many families could be up to £1800 a year worse off, and thejohn major warned that could be seen as unfair by voters and there could be a political backlash against the conservatives. in order to introduce something like universal credit, you need to look at those people who in the short term are going to lose and protect them, or you will run into the sort of problems that the conservative party ran into with the poll tax in the late 19805. so the

principle has a great deal to commend it but it isn't workable if there aren't the resources to introduce it properly. and to find someone on a very low introduce it properly. and to find someone on a very low income suddenly losing £2400 a year is a substantial amount, and the argument that it substantial amount, and the argument thatitis substantial amount, and the argument that it is to encourage people to get into work isn't an argument that runs, to me. for younger viewers, let me tell you that the poll tax was one of those at big political moments that prompted rioting in trafalgar square after mrs thatcher tried to introduce a new system of taxation which it was felt would u nfa i rly taxation which it was felt would unfairly penalised low income families and such were the protests she was in part forced to quit as prime minister because of the level of opposition to her attempts to introduce the poll tax. and what adds tojohn major's criticism today is the fact that he is making that

comparison just as mrs may in her keynote conference speech pledged to end austerity. both the timing of john major's comments on the fact that he is a former prime minister, these are pretty winding remarks by sirjohn major. —— wounding remarks. thank you, norman. companies could be forced to reveal their ethnicity pay gap under plans put forward by the prime minister. theresa may has launched a consultation on whether mandatory reporting will help address disparities between the pay and career prospects of minorities. she acknowledged that minorities often feel like they are hitting a brick wall at work. the move follows the decision to make firms reveal their gender pay gaps. some newsjust in. the police operation for donald trump's visit to the uk injuly is estimated to have cost nearly £18 million. that's according to the national police chiefs' council. schools in england will be

encouraged to move away from putting test and exam results ahead of everything else, with a new style of ofsted inspection next year. it's in response to concerns that schools have become too focused on league tables at the expense of individual pupils' needs. in a speech this morning, ofsted's chief inspector, amanda spielman, will say schools should aim to provide a broader education. a british couple who were amongst ten people killed by flash floods in majorca on monday night, have been named locally as anthony and delia green. they were believed to have been in their 70s and were on holiday on the island. local media is reporting that their bodies were discovered by emergency rescue teams in the early hours of yesterday morning inside a taxi which had been swept away by the torrent of water. three people are still missing, including a five—year—old child. a british student has been held in solitary confinement in the united arab emirates for five months after being accused of spying. matthew hedges was seized at dubai airport in may as he tried to leave the country after a research trip. his colleagues believe

he was accused of spying for qatar, which the uae says is working to undermine it. the foreign secretaryjeremy hunt has discussed the case with his emirati counterpart. comedian seann walsh has insisted he's "not the person i'm being portrayed as" after being caught kissing his strictly come dancing dance partner katya jones. the pair apologised during an appearance on bbc two's strictly — it takes two on wednesday evening. i am not the person i am being portrayed as. i'm still sorry for what i did. but it's very important for me to get that out there. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. more at 9.30. thank you. and thank you for your m essa g es thank you. and thank you for your messages about universal credit, which we will talk about in detail after ten o'clock this morning. jill on twitter: late payments, no communication, online messages

ignored, and nobody seems to know what they are talking about when you call to complain. clarissa on twitter: it is an awful thing, universal credit, and many people are suffering. if you are getting in touch with us, you are very welcome, asi touch with us, you are very welcome, as i hope you know. send us a message or on email and if you are texting, we have got to charge you. sorry about that. john is here with the sport. simone biles, the incredible us gymnast start, she has been talking about the abuse she was subject to buy her coach larry nasser. that is right. this story rocked american sport, the scandal involving the us gymnastics doctor larry nasser. one of his victims the olympic gold medallist simone biles, speaking out about what happened to her, she says it empowered her. larry nasser was sentenced to 175 yea rs larry nasser was sentenced to 175 years in prison after women came forward with stories of sexual abuse. after two year break from the sport, simone biles returned to international competition and she

will be back at the world championships in qatar this month. she said as a role model to others it was right that she spoke up, however ha rd it was right that she spoke up, however hard that was.|j it was right that she spoke up, however hard that was. i think a lot of people struggle with coming out and telling their stories but i figured if i could tell my story thenit figured if i could tell my story then it might encourage other people to tell theirs because a lot of people do look up to me. if the loan can be strong enough, hopefully i can be strong enough, hopefully i can as well, and that is kind of the method i wanted to give. i was kind of relieved when it came out. it was a lot of pressure off my seldom is. to keep something in like that for so to keep something in like that for so long when i usually share everything my family and fans, it was a lot. —— pressure off my shoulders. she is just was a lot. —— pressure off my shoulders. she isjust 21 years old and she speaks with such maturity. a very compelling interview and you can see more of it on the bbc sport website. rafael nadal has been helping out with the clearing up operation in america. —— in majorca.

he's been helping to try and restore some normality on his home island after those flash floods which killed at least nine people and left parts of the town in sant llorenc where it hit badly damaged. nadaljoined other volunteers in the worst area in trying to clear mud and water that remained following the flooding on tuesday night when eight inches of rain fell injust four hours. he lives just six miles away from the worst hit area. he even opened up the worst hit area. he even opened up his tennis academy as a place of refuge. he said on twitter: very nice to see rafael nadal helping out in that way. and john terry has become aston villa's assista nt terry has become aston villa's assistant manager a few days after retiring as a player. it's his first managerial role

following his recent retirement from playing. his last club was aston villa. he will work alongside dean smith, who's left brentford. smith a lifelong villa fan has extensive knowledge of working in the championship. at chelsea they called terry "captain, leader, legend", so with those leadership qualities it could be a winning coimbination. that's what the villa fans will hope. it will be an interesting dynamic that's for sure. thank you. more sport throughout the morning. welcome to the programme. weight is the uk's most common form of discrimination according to a new survey. it's found obese people face prejudice in clothes shops, in social situations and by gps and hospital staff. according to a world obesity federation poll, 62% of obese people in the uk say they've been discriminated against because of their weight. aside from the health risks, it can also damage your career with 25% of british adults

admitting they would hire a candidate with a healthy weight over one who was obese. 45% of obese adults have feltjudged in social situations, clothes shops, and worryingly in healthcare settings. so does there need to be more body positivity or is obesity a public health crisis we cannot ignore? let's talk now to shaun carrington. he used to weigh 33 stone, but he's lost an astounding 21 stone over the past 2 years. kathryn szrodecki campaigns on weight related issues. emma burnell used to weigh 25 stone until she had a gastric sleeve procedure. fiona osgun is from cancer research uk, and gp dr sarahjarvis is here too. shaun, you are obese, did you feel

discriminated against because of your weight? i always felt awkward in social situations. job interviews, i would worry about my appearance rather than how i was interviewed. as you say, out clothes shopping is very difficult when you are that kind of size, especially finding clothing in high street shops. you felt uncomfortable but do you believe that there was any overt prejudice towards you or was just under the surface? i feel it is more under the surface? i feel it is more under the surface than outspoken a lot of the time. right. catherine, you have been victimised because of your size. of course. most people in a workplace with a larger sized body will be victimised. that isjust the way it goes. what happens to you? the victimisation i suffered was normal for larger people. you are

passed over for promotion, you are paid less than the expectations of your employer are left. how do you know it was about your weight? because of my skill set. at the time it wasjust as because of my skill set. at the time it was just as good as my colleagues and they were promoted beyond me. in fa ct and they were promoted beyond me. in fact i trained some of my colleagues up fact i trained some of my colleagues up for the roles they then got, so there was clearly something more going on, something about what i look like and who i am. what do you think about that? it is disgraceful and we are losing skills and a huge army of people being passed over in the workplace. larger people don't even go for a roles they are qualified for because they know they will face discrimination and prejudice and they don't even put themselves forward. this starts in themselves forward. this starts in the playground, in primary school. the bullying of larger people and even people who are not particularly large you are called fat. it is simply normal. it is not challenged as much as it should be. do you use the word obese? i personally don't

like that word. i think it is robert return. it is one of those things that get thrown out at people and it isn't fair. —— i think it is derogatory. is it a medicalterm? it is. people come in different shapes and sizes and that isjust a fact so why do we have to label people? i am much more than my body size and there is much more to me than the way i look. this is a visual prejudice, nothing to do with what i can do and i believe that by political status. it is simply howl look and that is not fair. anna, you we re look and that is not fair. anna, you were 25 stone. what do you think people thought you were like because you were 25 stone? weight emma. they thought i was stupid. it is so ingrained in ourculture thought i was stupid. it is so ingrained in our culture that fat equals stupid. people thought i had no ability to regulate and no understanding of what i was doing to my understanding of what i was doing to d. understanding of what i was doing to my body. the fact is that i absolutely knew but i was an emotional eater and it is very

difficult to break the cycle where you are motion or because you are fat, and then fat because you overeat, and you over it because you are emotional. that was very tough. but i am not stupid. i did know what was happening. it was like an addiction. people who are addicts are not stupid either. the problem with being addicted to food as you can't go cold turkey. are you addicted to food or do you choose to be the weight that you are?|j addicted to food or do you choose to be the weight that you are? i come from a very long line of hard workers who have worked 16 hours a day of hard labour. that is my genetic condition and i accept that. that is where i have come from. my grandfather built roads and doug rivers but now i have got to sit in front of a computer all day and i am mostly sedentary. we have never experienced this before. what i am asking is whether you want to lose your weight or whether you are comfortable? no because that is where i come from and where i am.

emma, you wanted to lose the weight and so did shaun. you had a gastric sleeve procedure. they cut away a portion of your stomach. most people have a stomach the size of a grapefruit or a small melon. they made mind the size of a small lemon. then i could just eat less. the stomach is a muscle so over time i can return to eating normal sized portions. i am can return to eating normal sized portions. iam now can return to eating normal sized portions. i am now doing slimming world to do the second half of my journey. i am obviously not com pletely journey. i am obviously not completely there yet. what it did was it allowed me to lose the weight quickly enough to get back into a positive cycle about eating. and you tried lots of diets presumably? for yea rs. tried lots of diets presumably? for years. and the operation was on the nhs? it was. this text it has been discriminated against because of her weight. i am a nurse and i were difficult shift and i don't eat until after 12 hours in excess of 10,000 steps.

and a valid member of society, kind, helpful and caring and i pay taxes. i don't need health care support and my gp trips are minimum but i'm vilified by society regularly. i have been large all my life and i literally have broad shoulders but sometimes my heart breaks at the comment and abuse i received. people feel i am unhealthy. i don't comment on others so leave me alone. i am not a horrible person, just fat. and this one: i don't feel bad for obese people. most will tell you it is not theirfault. yeah, people. most will tell you it is not their fault. yeah, sure. people. most will tell you it is not theirfault. yeah, sure. they should eat less and get off the sofa. did you hear that when you were 33 stone? of course. and in actual fact it was because of my lifestyle and being self—employed. i was eating the wrong food most of the time. i understand that was my choice but... cani understand that was my choice but... can i ask you how you get to 33 stone? when you are 20 stone, you're not happy, and at 25 stone you are

not happy, and at 25 stone you are not happy, and at 25 stone you are not happy, so how does it keep increasing? i think it is down to your self—worth. some of the time, the more weight you put on, the worse you feel about yourself, so the less you care about yourself as well. it multiplies. how did you lose 21 stone in two years?” well. it multiplies. how did you lose 21 stone in two years? ijoined slimming world just after my 29th birthday. what was the tipping point? my mum had joined four months before and she had been bugging me probably every week for those four months. ijust probably every week for those four months. i just ran probably every week for those four months. ijust ran out of excuses one week and that was it. i don't pretend. she pretty much dragged me through the door on the first day. i will say that to anyone. it was the best thing that ever happened to me. it has changed my life. how do you react when you hear someone like shaun saying he ran out of excuses? i have absolutely every support for people who choose to lose weight. it

is an extremely difficult lifestyle to bea is an extremely difficult lifestyle to be a large person and you choose to be a large person and you choose to be a large person and you choose to bea to be a large person and you choose to be a large person and you choose to be a large person and not go on a diet. it is almost impossible and people to retreat into their houses and away from society the bigger you get. i totally understand it. and away from society the bigger you get. itotally understand it. it and away from society the bigger you get. i totally understand it. it is a solution and i support it. it is not my personal choice because i think i am better as an individual, andl think i am better as an individual, and i think a lot of us are, just looking for health within the parameters that we have right now and not losing and gaining weight all the time. i find yo—yo dieting to bea all the time. i find yo—yo dieting to be a dangerous sport. have you done it? no. i have gone to fitness andl done it? no. i have gone to fitness and i used to teach exercise for larger women and and i used to teach exercise for largerwomen andl and i used to teach exercise for larger women and i do personal training andl larger women and i do personal training and i am qualified by the ymca and then you understand how the body works a bit better. you understand the damage you can do with yo—yo dieting and things like liquid diets. they are terrible for your help and i don't want to be in that situation personally. there will be some people watching who

will be some people watching who will not believe that you want to be the weight you are. i haven't asked you what you weight but do you want to tell us? i haven't stepped on scales in years and that is not on my radar. i'm more interested in looking after my life in other ways, just like everyone else. fiona from cancer research, is it healthy to be obese? especially in terms of cancer? all the evidence we have about cancer shows that the more overweight you are and the longer you are at a heavier weight, the higher the risk you are of cancer, and that is 30 different types of cancer that we see that risk with. including what? including the most common types, breast and bowel cancer, and unfortunately it is also linked to cancers that are hard to treat like oesophagus and pancreatic cancers. this text says: the causes of obesity are so complex that we cannot hold individuals responsible for their own condition. how can a

blunt tax like the sugar tax be effective or justified? blunt tax like the sugar tax be effective or justified ? this research is really interesting. one element which is relevant to you as a gp, sarah, is that discrimination also comes from medical professionals. what do you make of that? i wonder what people mean by discrimination because it can be how you feel rather than what people are actually saying. there have been situations where clinical commissioning groups have said you can't have certain operations because you need to lose weight, but thatis because you need to lose weight, but that is not discrimination on the basis of your weight, it is using the health economy. if you are very overweight, the likelihood of a certain operation succeeding is much lower. and if you can drop somewhat, the likelihood of that operation working is much greater. —— drop some weight. when i hear that it is not politically correct and my doctor shouldn't say anything to me because of my weight because it makes me feel uncomfortable, the

problem is... is that what patients are saying? i have heard this in the media. some people say a doctor has no right to talk to me about my weight. that is like saying you can't tell me to stop smoking because it causes lung cancer. can't tell me to stop smoking because it causes lung cancer]! there a difference? a person might present in a gp's office about an earache and have comments about their weight. is that not fair enough? no. doctors go for the weight issue rather than the symptoms you are suffering from. but that can be related to so many other mental and health issues. possibly but not of necessarily. mental and health issues. possibly but not of necessarilylj mental and health issues. possibly but not of necessarily. i would love it if people could be fat and healthy and some of my colleagues have tried to champion it but the

simple fact of the matter is if you are in the overweight category, you are in the overweight category, you are three times more likely to get type two diabetes than if you are in the middle range. in the early obese category you are ten times more likely and in the severely obese category you are 20 times by likely to get diabetes. likewise with heart disease, and we know that no matter how fit you are, if you are overweight you are more at risk. because of the attitude within the gp surgery, we don't go for early diagnosis and breast checks. we don't want to go there. why? because it is so embarrassing, humiliating. and when you have been bullied in your workplace and in your family, whatever it is, you don't want to go to the gp and get your breast checked. you put it. we are victims of late diagnosis because of the atmosphere within the gp surgery. i have every sympathy for the gp. you have every sympathy for the gp. you have got to do what you have got to do in five minutes and i get that but i want something more encompassing that includes us, rather than a encompassing that includes us,

ratherthana gp encompassing that includes us, rather than a gp sitting in front of you saying you are fat and what do you saying you are fat and what do you expect? sorry, has a gp ever said that to you? you are facts are what do you expect? those actual words? yes, because i have a knee injury at the moment. so thin people don't get knee injuries? things happen. but did they actually say those words? i did. -- they did. i would be very surprised if they used those words. we would like to be otherwise but you are much likely to develop osteoarthritis if you are overweight because you are putting strain on yourjoints. we hear a lot about people who want emotional support and they are obese because they have no self worth and so on. how cani they have no self worth and so on. how can i help somebody to address it without helping them to understand that they need to address it? riffraff on twitter: my harshest judge was and is myself. i hated going out when i was at my heaviest andi going out when i was at my heaviest and i would check myself and

reflections to see how bad i looked andi reflections to see how bad i looked and i always imagined people staring at me. it was tough and in the end i got sick of it and did something about it. alan: beating mighty gp for the first time his first comment wasn't hello but you are shipping a bit of timber, mate. i have so far resisted knocking his teeth out. how do you feel now you have lost 21 stone? it is hard to explain. i think it is the energy levels more than anything. it is the confidence that comes from the support that i have in group, notjust from my co nsulta nt have in group, notjust from my consultant but members as well. it builds you back—up. it helps give you the tools to change your life for the better as well. how do you feel, emma? i am still on my journey andl feel, emma? i am still on my journey and i am not a target like you. i am and i am not a target like you. i am a lot more confident and i have a

completely different life but the main thing is i am not in pain any more. i wasn't fit and fat. i was very unfit and very fat and i was in consta nt very unfit and very fat and i was in constant agony. i couldn't walk for five minutes without crippling back pain and now i walk everywhere and thatis pain and now i walk everywhere and that is part of my lifestyle change. pa rt of that is part of my lifestyle change. part of making sure it isn'tjust about food but whole lifestyle change. i love to walk and i put my ear buds in and i listen to a podcast and off i go. i will walk an hour across london rather than getting a 20 minute tube because it is that much better for me and for my lifestyle. is there an obesity crisis in britain? yes, we have doubled the number of obese people in the last 20 years. why? as catherine had said, we have a different lifestyle and we need to help people to adjust catherine doesn't want your help. no, no thank you. it is important we respect ourselves whatever size we

are. we must be devalued, this is my message to anybody out there who is a large person. jenny says "the media has great responsibility for the discrimination faced by the overweight, used to walk everywhere, three mile round—trip to work every day, shopping, leisure, etc. nowi have severe rheumatoid arthritis and after ten yea rs have severe rheumatoid arthritis and after ten years of steroids and lack of ability to exercise, sometimes even bed ridden, i am 4—5 stone heavier but walking down the street iam heavier but walking down the street i am judged as if i stuff, and pies all day. people seem to think my disability is caused by my weight rather than the other way around. i have lost count of the number of times that medical staff have asked me ifiam times that medical staff have asked me if i am diabetic.". obesity is credible and should not be excused by painting it as acceptable says this viewer. it will become a disaster in the future if we are not careful. thank you for coming on the programme, we appreciated. many more comments i will try and

read before the end of the programme. keep them coming in, particularly if you are overweight and will describe yourself as obese, have you experienced the kind of this combination highlight is today? still to come. one of the most powerful storms ever to hit the us is now passing through georgia, after leaving major destruction behind in florida. we'll bring you the latest in a moment. and tackling the illegal trade in wildlife — there's a big conference on in london today. prince william is due to speak at it. we will talk to the world wildlife fund. time for the latest news — here's joanna gosling. two people have died in one of the most powerful storms to have hit the united states. hurricane michael is now heading towards georgia, after leaving widespread destruction in florida. the hurricane has caused trees to snap in half and storm surges of up to ten feet along the coast. and we'll have more on this just after this summary. the former prime minister, sirjohn major, has strongly criticised the government's introduction of universal credit, where several existing benefits

are rolled into one. he's warned that it could prove as damaging to the conservative party as the poll tax, which was so widely disliked that many people refused to pay. sirjohn told the bbc‘s political thinking podcast that voters would see it as unfair that low income families risked losing several thousand pounds. downing street says three billion pounds has been set aside to ease the introduction of the payment. companies could be forced to reveal their ethnicity pay gap under plans put forward by the prime minister. theresa may has launched a consultation on whether mandatory reporting will help address disparities between the pay and career prospects of minorities. she acknowledged that minorities often "feel like they are hitting a brick wall" at work. the move follows the decision to make firms reveal their gender pay gaps. the police operation for donald trump's visit to the uk injuly is estimated to have cost nearly £18 million, according to the national police chiefs' council.

thousands of officers were deployed to cover the two—day working visit by the us president to the uk injuly. the trip to britain was his first since winning the 2016 presidential election. a british couple who were amongst ten people killed by flash floods in majorca on monday night, have been named locally as anthony and delia green. they were believed to have been in their 70s and were on holiday on the island. local media is reporting their bodies were discovered by emergency rescue teams in the early hours of yesterday morning, inside a taxi which had been swept away by the torrent of water. three people are still missing, including a 5—year—old child. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. you for your comments on universal credit. because of criticism from the former conservative prime minister about it today. this text says i have been on universal credit

for two is added is the best benefit i have ever been on, i work part—time and without it i would struggle. jennifer says, i am 56, i have drug and alcohol addiction and i need my benefits every week. universal credit paid monthly in arrears. she says i don't know what i will do when i start getting paid monthly. this person on e—mail says, iamon monthly. this person on e—mail says, i am on universal credit and as a single person with no dependents, the government says i can survive on £664 per month. after my primary bills are taken out, read being £425 per month, i have only £3 76 per month left for food and other sundries. we will talk more about it after 10am. keep your own experiences coming in, whether you are on universal credit already, how is it working out? there have been pilot schemes around the country. it is due to roll out and replace other benefits to millions of families

next april. tell us how you are feeling. here's some sport now withjohn watson. john terry has taken on his first managerial role — he'll work as assistant to dean smith at aston villa, where terry finished his career as a player. smith is a lifelong villa fan, terry one of the most decorate dplayers of his generation. they replace steve bruce who was sacked earlier this month. british number one kyle edmund has moved a step closer to a first atp tour title — he's into the quarter finals of the shanghai masters with a straight sets win over nicolas jarry — he faces alex zverez, the world number five for a place in the semi finals. rafa nadal, has been helping with the clean up on his home island of majorca following the flash floods there. he was helping with the clean—up.

and the gymnast simon biles says speaking about the abuse she suffered by us team doctor larry nasser has been empowering. she was one of 160 women who came forward. the four—time olympic gold medallist returns to international competition after a two—year break this month. that's all the sport for now. i will be back with more at 10am. one of the most powerful storms to have hit the united states is now heading towards georgia, leaving widespread destruction in florida. hurricane michael caused storm surges of up to ten feet along the coast, trees were snapped in half, and roofs ripped off. two people have died. the govenor of florida, rick scott, gave thanks for the support his state has recieved as the storm hit. the entire nation and world have watched, as this monster storm has devastated our gulf coast and panhandle. the love and support we have received from so many has been overwhelming. and we are greatly appreciative of all the resources and prayers that have been offered.

on behalf of the gulf coast, and the great state of florida, i want to thank the nation for your prayers. following the storm, we must all come together and work together. during disasters, floridians take care of each other. we saw this after matthew, irma and maria. floridians are strong, floridians are resilient, we will recover and we'll do it together. florida is unbreakable and we'll get through this together. hurricane michael cannot break florida. residents told of how hurricane michael was worse than other storms they've ever experienced. this is the first time i went through one. i worked for the power company. i'm retired. so i saw a lot of storms. but this one here was the worst i've seen. so, it was good, you see what it did around here, it snapped trees like they were toothpicks, it was nothing to it. so, i'm glad i'm still here, i'm glad i survived, i'm glad the car made it.

everything was closed. so, it all worked out. i prayed a lot. i was in a bunker, almost a bunker, and just prayers. how half of it missed us, i have no godly idea. rob fowler is a meterologist from wcbtv in carolina, he explained why this storm was so dangerous. it formed very quickly. it had all the ingredients. it had warm air, warm water, it didn't have any sheer, in other words, the winds weren't tearing it apart and it had a good steering, so it was moving. so, it just happened to get in the gulf. this is the time of the year we start to shift our attention back to the caribbean and gulf of mexico where those water temperatures tend to stay warmer later in the season as opposed to the atlantic. i wouldn't say it's unusual to have this big of a storm in october, because it's happened before in terms of the gulf of mexico, but certainly, so many more people are moving towards water, so many more people in harm's way.

obviously, everybody is interested in a storm like this that can impact on so many people. we will keep you updated with the latest as the storm progresses. coming up: with black history month being celebrated in schools across the country, labour leader jeremy corbyn is set to call for black history to be taught all year round, notjust in october. some people don't agree with that, as you might expect. we will hear the arguments, for and against, just after 10am. world leaders are gathering at a major conference in london today to talk about tackling the illegal trade in wildlife. the duke of cambridge is due to speak there. we might be able to bring you some of what he says in the next hour in the programme. the illegal market in things like ivory, rhino horns and tiger parts is worth £17 billion a year.

it is thought to be the fourth—biggest area for organized criminals after drugs, weapons and human trafficking. but a report by the world wildlife fund suggests that for many rangers on the front line preventing poachers killing animals, conditions are pretty awful. more than 100 rangers have been killed since july last year, and many lack access to clean water whilst out on patrol. our reporter, james waterhouse, went to malawi earlier this year to see how british soldiers are helping in the battle against poachers there. an animal check—up with high stakes. lance corporaljamie knox is one of 14 british soldiers in malawi, working with local rangers. today, they're tracking black rhino, to both check on their health and make sure poachers aren't taking a similar interest. it's 50—50 whether they'lljust stand back and run away orjust charge straight at you. so, it's pretty dangerous.

after a near miss, they get their picture. in the last 50 years, malawian rhino numbers have dropped from 70,000 to 5,500. the elephant population has halved in the last 30 years, as well. right now, this deterrent, along with the money starting to get generated through tourism, is working. there have been no recorded poachings in this area for more than a year. but conservationists say they're already preparing for a new, growing threat that is happening right across africa. international organised crime. it's powered by wealthy black markets in mostly asian countries, like china and vietnam. there's been a recent surge in poaching in neighbouring countries, but, for now, malawi seems to be holding out. that was earlier this year. let's talk now to max gower, whose brother, roger, was shot and killed by poachers, while he was flying a helicopter doing what he loved —

protecting animals, and heather sohl from global conservation organisation the world wildlife fund's international wildlife trade programme. also with me is drew mcvey, a former ranger and wwf‘s east africa wildlife crime coordinator. and in palm desert, california, is raabia hawa — a radio presenter turned ranger. thank you for coming on the programme. heather, iam not sure people necessarily know much between the illegal wildlife trade and serious organised crime, tell us about the connection. people think it isa about the connection. people think it is a victimless crime. your introduction showed us the fourth largest transnational organised crime. this means there are criminal organised networks who are involved in smuggling drugs, people, arms. they are using the same trade routes, the same techniques, to then smuggle wildlife. we have seen a loss of around 20,000 elephants per

year, we are losing over 1100 rhinos per year. this is having a devastating impact, not just per year. this is having a devastating impact, notjust on the species' populations but on the local people who live with these animals, the ecosystems and the economies of some of the world's poorest countries. drew, you are a former ranger and wwf‘s east africa wildlife crime coordinator, what is yourjob wildlife crime coordinator, what is your job involved? wildlife crime coordinator, what is yourjob involved? my job is to work with rangers and different authorities to see how we can help them to do a betterjob of protecting their wildlife and making sure they have what they need to do the jobs. what we see on the ground is we see an increasing amount of poaching going on and we are quite fortunate. having said that, particularly in kenny and tanzania and uganda, we have seen a reduction in the levels of elephant and rhino poaching —— in kenya. it with gangs that are poaching, they are very violent individuals that we are working with. they very much, particularly when they are going for

an and rhinos, they should first hour rangers and ask questions later. hence 100 rangers being killed. -- they shoot first and ask questions later. your brother was killed trying to stop poachers, locate them so they could be arrested. tell our audience what happened to roger. roger was out on a mission, looking for some poachers that they had been told were on the reserve. where was this? tanzania, quite remote part of tanzania. unfortunately he located the poachers but not before they located him and they fired one shot from an ak-47, him and they fired one shot from an ak—47, which brought the helicopter down. hit roger. he died a few hours later. partly because of the remoteness of where he came down. but roger's story isn't very typical. he was flying a helicopter.

he was doing ever to dangerousjob but not nearly as dangerous as the ones that the rangers on the ground are doing. it is a brutal war that they are now fighting. do you agree with that? it is brutal? absolutely. when you see some of the accounts we have to deal with and if you speak toa have to deal with and if you speak to a lot of rangers on the ground, we have just done surveys across 17 countries and interviewed almost 5000 rangers. their biggest fear is to run into poachers. they are very, very aggressive. they shoot first and ask questions later, particular elephants and rhinos. it is a scary job for people on the ground. we are often in very remote areas and often, unfortunately, they are not as well—equipped as we would like our rangers to be. they put their lives on the lines to do theirjob. rabia trains and rangers, shejoins us rabia trains and rangers, shejoins us from palm desert in california.

we have heard about some of the dangers that rangers face, what are other practical challenges? thank you very much for including me in this vital programme. i have worked with rangers for over ten years. i know, first—hand, what some of the challenges are that they face, aside from the threat of poachers. they also face daily threats from possible wildlife attacks, while they are in the field, conducting their anti—poaching patrols and de—snaring operations. but it is also the challenges of the terrain. they are prone to injury. and some of the training we have been involved in, that is first aid training for the rangers because many of them have never had first eight training before. this is obviously a potentially life—threatening situation. aside from that, you know, they are in the

bush —— they have never had first eight training before. sometimes they don't have access to fresh clea n they don't have access to fresh clean drinking water and fresh water and they will dig in the ground and drink whatever water they are able to find. that often leads to a lot of health problems. they encounter a lot of challenges in the line of work they are in but they are so dedicated to protecting wildlife. it is commendable, what they do. what motivates rangers and your brother? my brother's motivation was a love of flying and love of animals. it was in many ways the perfectjob of flying and love of animals. it was in many ways the perfect job for him. he was passionate about wildlife and wanted to do what he could to help. the 1.1 would like to make is that they doing thisjob, which is incredibly dangerous these days —— v1 point i would like. there is a lack of awareness of what they are doing and a lack of funding to

support them. there are some amazing charities helping them. task, a lot of the british public would know about. —— tusk. but they all need the support they are hugely underfunded in looking after the welfare of those rangers. my charity we have set up, we had us believe trying to raise money to help conservation generally. we are off to kilimanjaro on sunday to raise funds for that charity. there isa raise funds for that charity. there is a lack of funding for that particular aspect of conservation. what made —— what motivates the rangers? they never cease to amaze me, they are fantastic and are passionate about what they do. everyone who does theirjob loves it. they love being out in these beautiful areas. they love seeing the things they do. it's incredible. on average, rangers globally work a 77 hour week on average, rangers globally work a 77 hourweek and on average, rangers globally work a 77 hour week and all these rangers turn around and say we are not

physically tired. you think that's pretty impressive because there are not many sectors where people work there is kind of hours it really remote areas, under extremely harsh conditions and still come out so motivated. —— in really remote areas. often you find yourself in these areas and you think i am so incredible, so lucky to see these things. people spend their lifetimes trying to get to see things which we are fortunate enough to see daily. that is incredible. we were due to talk to a range from kenny but at the last moment he wasn't able to join us sadly. heather, this is the fourth illegal wildlife has changed since the first one? the first conference was in london. this is a return. that was in 2014. that made a strong commitment is looking at a law enforcement, reducing demand, engaging and developing sustainable livelihoods. we have seen some progress. for example, we have seen some countries closing legal

domestic ivory markets. china, the us, the uk have moved towards legislation. that control the ivory trade at illegal ivory trade. we have the 11 countries reporting they have the 11 countries reporting they have been training byjudiciary, because it is important that prosecutions and convictions are strong as well. to be honest, we need so much more. that is why we need so much more. that is why we need to see, out of this conference, these 85 countries coming out with strong commitments to really tackle this as a serious crime. and bringing in the funding. we can't have these piecemeal bits of funding going to small projects, we need really strong investment to really make a difference. are you expecting an announcement from the british government? that would satisfy that? hopefully, yes. money, cash? only this week they announced an extra 6 million towards engaging and developing green corridors in the uk

government really will not only bring together these countries, which is fantastic, to keep this issue relevant and keep their heads of government, the ministers, talking about it. but they all need to step up and make the commitments that are needed to make a difference on the ground. i want to go back to the endangered species, where are the endangered species, where are the markets, the criminals getting the markets, the criminals getting the goods to? there are 7000 species that are affected by the illegal wildlife trade, they are being traded in different markets. this depends on what you're talking about. go through some of them. we often talk about elephants and ivory, the main consumer country for ivory, the main consumer country for ivory is china. and for tiger parts and product it is china, vietnam, other countries in asia, for rhino horn, vietnam has the largest illegal market for consumption. what is really worrying about this is that the main driver behind this is to show status, to show that you have the wealth to buy these products. there's no need for these animals to be killed. how do you

tackle that demand ? animals to be killed. how do you tackle that demand? we need to be looking at behavioural change initiatives that are really targeted on why these consumers are buying it. you could necessarilyjust go to a consumer in asia and say, "don't buy rhino horn because a rhino dives in africa?". that will not change their motivation and reason for buying it. —— because a rhino dies in africa". by saying strength doesn't come from eating rhino horn, it comes from within it comes from that chi that the vienna meat are working towards. does it help that the duke of cambridge is there, speaking and joining the conversation? it is important that we have these strong influences who will make this difference. people will make this difference. people will listen to the duke of cambridge. he spoke to the chinese government and spoke about the domestic ivory market and that was why the contributing factors that will have helped to lead to the collusion of their domestic ivory markets. —— need to the closure. thank you. now the latest on an ongoing story

which this programme has brought to the public‘s attention over the past 18 months — complications linked to vaginal mesh repairs. an investigation by the british medicaljournal claims manufacturers of mesh implants "aggressively" pushed their product into widespread use and regulators approved them based on little evidence. it believes a mandatory device registry is long overdue. more than 100,000 women across the uk have undergone the procedure in the past 20 years. it was introduced as a quick and easy way to treat stress urinary incontinence and pelvic organ prolapse in women. the majority have suffered no side—effects, but thousands have reported experiencing chronic pain. our reporter anna collinson has been investigating complications linked to mesh repairs for 18 months now and can update us on the latest. this report comes just two days after we interviewed the health watchdog nice, which has just released draft guidelines about vaginal mesh.

can you remind us about that. what nice has said, we will get that ina what nice has said, we will get that in a second. but this bmj report, they released several new reports today and i had a look through. a lot of what they are talking about we have already touched on in this programme. to sum up, they are critical of several groups involved with the rapid rise, what they call, of vaginal mesh repairs. firstly, the manufacturers say that the procedure became very popular in the late 90s very quickly. that was because of aggressive pushing from manufacturers, how they describe it. the manufacturers argued that they thought the procedure was quick, involved less time in hospital and helped the nhs financially and was a success for women. another group they are critical of is the regulators, saying they passed it on flimsy evidence and the medical profession. they said they failed to monitor exactly what was going on

and they say surveillance with any medical device is vital in the form of databases medical device is vital in the form of data bases and medical device is vital in the form of databases and in this case it's never happened. because of that, many women suffered extreme complications, which we have covered on the programme, chronic pain, that type of thing, and because that they have gone through unnecessary pain which have been avoided. nice, the new guidelines, remind us. on our they said that they recommend all of vaginal mesh surgery should be used asa vaginal mesh surgery should be used as a last resort. they also said there should be a national database set up, as i mentioned how important thatis, set up, as i mentioned how important that is, to record what is going on. that can influence future decision—making. we had a read of on tuesday and they talked about these changes. we heard from the deputy chief executive, professor ginny. it isa it is a draft guideline. if anybody has any feedback, we would very much welcome that. secondly, indeed, mesh may remain a

second line option, that's correct. but only once there has been a specialist opinion through a regional centre with specially trained surgeons, with the woman fully being informed about the pros and cons of mesh versus other procedures. that is what nice have to say. women who have been affected by this and campaigners were angry about what nice have said. firstly, angry, why has it taken so long to get to this point? also, confused. last year on this programme we revealed d raft n ice last year on this programme we revealed draft nice guidelines which said that mesh should only be used for research and now they are saying a last resort. campaigners are concerned that this could be smoke and mirrors. things might not actually change and women could continue to suffer. we've also covered recently complications caused by hernia mesh repairs, are there any similarities between that and the bmj's investigation? our report two weeks ago revealed up

to 170,000 hernia mesh patients could be experiencing complications like chronic pain. the bmj report, asi like chronic pain. the bmj report, as i said, said it is vitalfor surveillance of any medical device. with nice, they are saying that should happen with vaginal mesh repairs. hernia mesh repairs are even further behind. we put that to the professor as well. do you think the professor as well. do you think the database should also collect outcomes for hernia mesh as well? that's not the subject of this guideline because is very focused on women's conditions incontinence and prolapse. but i'm aware that there are concerns about the wider use of mesh. it would be logical, wouldn't it? it would be logical. my personal opinion is that would be logical. thank you very much for the latest. we will bring you the news and sport

at10am. we will bring you the news and sport at 10am. breaking news first. russian news agencies reporting there has been an accident during there has been an accident during the launch of the russian soyuz rocket. it is carrying a russian and us astronaut heading to the international space station. it is due to make an emergency landing in kazakhstan. russian television is saying that the crew is alive. is that news is just coming in on the programme. russian news news agencies reporting there has been an accident. the rocket is due to make an emergency landing in kazakhstan and russian television reporting that the crew is alive. much more to come on that as soon as we get any details. let's get the latest weather update with simon king. simon has been monitoring the progress of american michael. -- of hurricane michael. absolutely. is that much better for me and for my lifestyle. yesterday evening was when the storm

slammed into the panhandle of florida. it has weakened and now it is moving through george as a tropical storm but it will continue to move through the carolinas over the next 24 hours before moving into the next 24 hours before moving into the atlantic. while nature can be really quite destructive, it can also be quite beautiful. last night while all this was going on, we had the aurora across northern parts of scotland. this was the forecast from last night. you can see the deep red colouring from northern parts of scotla nd colouring from northern parts of scotland and it gave a fantastic images from weather watchers. this is just images from weather watchers. this isjust one images from weather watchers. this is just one that i picked out from the shetland isles. stunning. the forecast is not a straightforward as yesterday. much more cloud around at the moment with outbreaks of rain in south—western parts of england and wales, pushing north and east through the afternoon. it will be chillier across western areas but in

the east, you hold onto the warmth from yesterday. temperatures getting up from yesterday. temperatures getting up to 22 degrees, so still feeling pleasa nt up to 22 degrees, so still feeling pleasant with sunny spells. but much chillier across the west. overnight, rain moves into the north sea. clear skies for many into the early hours of friday morning, but rain will move into the west. temperatures staying at ten to 13, but rain in the west is associated with storm cal, spitting out in the atlantic at the moment. it will move to the north and west of northern ireland and scotland, bringing associated weather friends and heavy rain on friday, especially across scotland, northern england, wales and the south—west of england, moving east. staying prior to the south—east of england with sunny spells but still gusty conditions of up to 50 mph. further north and west they could be as high as 70 mph. temperature—wise,

18 for many but in the south—east of england where there is sunshine, it will feel warm at high temperatures of 21. into the weekend, storm callu m of 21. into the weekend, storm ca llu m m oves of 21. into the weekend, storm callum moves away, but we still have weather friends in the south and then low pressure develops again. that will intensify the rain on saturday across south—west england, wales, north west england and northern ireland on saturday. largely dry in the south—east with sunshine and feeling warm and temperatures up to four. elsewhere, cooler feel in scotland and northern ireland. by sunday much of the rain will have cleared away and the winds will have cleared away and the winds will have cleared away and the winds will have eased out. chillier on sunday with high temperatures of 12 to 15. that is it from me. see you later. thank you, simon. hello. it is ten o'clock. i'm victoria derbyshire. welcome to the programme. universal credit.

sirjohn major criticises the government's key welfare reform, saying it could cause the tories the same problems as the poll tax in the 1980s. in order to introduce something like a universal credit, you need to look at those people who in the short term are going to lose and protect them or you will run into the sort of problems that the conservative party ran into with the poll tax. almost four million more claimants will be switching to universal credit from next year. if you're one of those people or if you're receiving it already we want to hear from you so do get in touch. hurricane michael, the third—strongest storm ever to hit the us mainland has torn through florida, killing two people and bringing widespread flooding and destruction. i prayed a lot. i was in a bunker, almost lost the bunker. just prayers. it's now moved on to georgia as a tropical storm. hundreds of thousands have been left without power as school exclusions rise one

council wants to fine schools £5,000 £5,000 for each child they permanently exclude. could it work? good morning. here'sjoanna with the latest bbc news. two people have died in one of the most powerful storms to have hit the united states. hurricane michael is now heading towards georgia, after leaving widespread destruction in florida. the storm knocked out power to a quarter of a million homes and businesses, as power lines were destroyed by falling trees. i saw a lot of storms but this one here was the worst i've seen. you see what it did around here. it snapped trees like they were toothpicks. the former prime minister sir john major has strongly criticised the government's introduction of universal credit, where several existing benefits are rolled into one. he's warned that it could prove as damaging to the conservative party

as the poll tax, which was so widely disliked that many people refused to pay. sirjohn told the bbc‘s political thinking podcast that voters would see it as unfair. in order to introduce something like a universal credit, you need to look at those people who, in the short term, are going to lose and protect them, or you will run into the sort of problems that the conservative party ran into with the poll tax. a russian cosmonaut and an american astronaut have apparently got into difficulty after taking off for a six—month mission at the international space station. latest reports on russian state tv say there was a malfunction on take—off and the crew are expected to make an emergency landing in kazakhstan. companies could be forced to reveal their ethnicity pay gap under plans put forward by the prime minister. theresa may has launched a consultation on whether mandatory reporting will help address disparities between the pay

and career prospects of minorities. she acknowledged that minorities often feel like they are hitting a brick wall at work. the move follows the decision to make firms reveal their gender pay gaps. the police operation for donald trump's visit to the uk injuly is estimated to have cost nearly £18 million, according to the national police chiefs' council. thousands of officers were deployed to cover the two—day working visit by the us president to the uk injuly. the trip to britain was his first since winning the 2016 presidential election. nearly two weeks after an earthquake and tsunami hit the indonesian city of palu, search and rescue teams will end their operations tomorrow. they've given up hope of finding around 5000 people who are still missing. the government has imposed the deadline because it's become increasingly difficult to identify bodies. at least 2000 are known to have died. a british couple who were amongst ten people killed by flash floods in majorca on monday night

have been named locally as anthony and delia green. they were believed to have been in their 70s and were on holiday on the island. local media is reporting their bodies were discovered by emergency rescue teams in the early hours of yesterday morning inside a taxi which had been swept away by the torrent of water. three people are still missing, including a five—year—old child. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. more at 10.30. thank you. we will be talking about universal credit in the next half hour. griffin on twitter: the whole system is traumatic and dehumanising. i have had one french try to take their life and i have seen the lives of others destroyed, and that is before universal credit has been rolled out in my area. the conservatives are destroying the health of the many. stuart on twitter: forced to take a short—term job, job ends, five more weeks of starvation and trying to persuade all your domestic debt is not to evict you and cut off your gas and

electricity. the tory ancestor get a crisis loan, which means you get loa n after loa n crisis loan, which means you get loan after loan where you end up crippled. —— the tory answer is to get a crisis loan. this one: it is a bit late. this disgrace has left millions suicidal over no payments for six weeks. more should have been brought in. another let down for the british people by the tyrants running this country. hang your heads in shame. and on text: 7 million disgruntled benefits claimants and also robbed waspy women. the next general election will be interesting. do get in touch with us using the hashtag victoria live and you can email and use whatsapp as well. john is back with the sport. it was a story that rocked american sport, the abuse scandal involving the us gymnastics doctor larry nasser. one of his victims, the four time olympic gold medallist simone biles, says speaking out about what happened has empowered her. nasser was sentenced to 175 years in prison after more than 160 women

came forward with stories of sexual abuse. after a two—year break from the sport, she returned in august to national competition and will be back on the international stage at the world championships in qatar this month. she said as a role model to others it was right that she spoke up, however hard that was. i think a lot of people struggle with coming out and telling their stories, but i figured if i could tell my story then it might encourage other people to tell theirs, because a lot of people do look up to me. like, "if simone can be strong enough, hopefully i can too," and that is kind of the message i wanted to give. i was kind of relieved when it came out. it was a lot of pressure off my shoulders. to keep something in like that for so long when i usually share everything with my family and fans, it was a lot.

a very compelling interview and you can see more of it on the bbc sport website. john terry, one of the most decorated footballers of his generation, has been appointed as the asistant manager of aston villa. it's his first managerial role, following his recent retirement from playing, and his last club was aston villa, so he's not going far. he'll work alongside dean smith, who's left brentford. smith, a lifelong villa fan, has extensive knowledge of working in the championship while terry is known for his leadership qualities. will that suit him as a number two? villa fans hope it'll be a winning combination, and it will certainly make for an interesting dynamic. it's been hotly debated — the sale of the home of english football, wembley stadium. this morning, the man in charge of the fa will try to persuade the governing body's council members why selling it is a good idea. the fa board wants to offload the stadium so they can put £600 million into building facilities and pitches, but the majority of the council is believed to be against the deal.

britain's number one kyle edmund is a step closer to a first atp tour title after reaching the quarter finals of the shanghai masters. edmund, who is ranked 14th in the world, took a tight first set on a tie break before taking the second set 6—2 to beat chile's nicolas yarry. but a tough test awaits if he's to reach the last four. he faces the world number five alexander zverev. rafael nadal has been away from the court, trying to restore some normality on his home island of majorca after the flash floods there. nadal, who lives six miles from the worst hit area in saint lourenc, joined other volunteers in trying to clear mud and water that remained following the flooding on tuesday night. he said on twitter: "my heartfelt condolences to the relatives of the deceased.2 he offered the use of his facilities for all those affected at his tennis academy in manacor. that's all the sport for now.

i'll be back with another update at 10:30am. thank you. for more than 30 years, black history month has been a fixture in britain's cultural calendar, celebrated every october in many schools and at tens of thousands of events across the country. but the leader of the labour party jeremy corbyn will today call for british black history to be included in the school curriculum all year round notjust in october. during a visit to bristol, mr corbyn will announce plans to improve the teaching of black british history and the history of the british empire, colonialism and slavery, to help ensure their legacy is more widely understood across the country. let's talk now to simon frederick, whose black is the new black photography exhibition celebrating black british achievements has just opened at the national portrait gallery. cleo de jong is an assistant headteacher

who champions black british history at whitefield school in barnet. speaking to us from croydon is tony sewell, founder of generating genius which supports young people from disadvantaged backgrounds. tony, is this a good idea from jeremy corbyn? it has mostly been a disaster and i think even the founders of it found it very difficult to support it any more, mainly because schools have done it so badly. one two have done it well and it is mostly because teachers don't know what they are doing. one of the reasons behind it is that we don't know what it is anyway. is it about identity? is it ideological driven? is it simply therapy? let me bring in cleo who is an assistant headteacher. a disaster? very strong words on to say that teachers don't know what we're doing is very unfair and to pigeonhole it into specific categories and unnecessary. it can

bea categories and unnecessary. it can be a celebration of all things that are fantastic that black people are contributing to in britain and internationally. and it can look at what black people have done historically. our assemblies have voted on ancient history reaching back to africa, and the origins of the earliest objects for instance. but also celebrations of local heroes and things children can look up heroes and things children can look up to and aspire to knowing that local black people have achieved great things. can i answer that? please do. so what? local black people have done lots. why do you need to do it? is there something wrong? do say so what makes it sound like you don't know what we do as educators and teachers. we are in the business of raising aspirations and there is an idea that children will be what they can see. lots of our children do not see people that

look like themselves in positions of authority, positions of significance, and it is important for us as teachers to show children that people who have come from your local area and people who do look like you are doing amazing things. why not just like you are doing amazing things. why notjust give them therapy sessions then? what, sorry? therapy sessions. it is not therapy. one of my ex—students is notjust sessions. it is not therapy. one of my ex—students is not just a young black woman but young black muslim woman in an area where a lot of our children are seeing negative images about muslims at the moment. she has come into our school and she has shown children what she has done, explaining herjourney from being a student in year seven, eight and nine, perhaps struggling in some lessons, and how through determination and high aspirations and having really high ambitions for herself, she has made thatjourney. for lots of our students it was massively inspirational and they stay behind afterwards to say they didn't know that someone who looks like me could do those things. that

is what we are in the business of doing, opening up their minds to the possibilities that are available to them. i want to bring in simon ifi may. sorry, tony. tony suggested why not give them therapy and you side with exasperation, i think. —— you we re with exasperation, i think. —— you were sighing with exasperation.” have never met tony and what i'm about to say could sound a bit rude but i think he is out of touch. there is a certain generation of black men and they should keep those views to themselves because they are very out of touch and dangerous. why are they dangerous? because on the other side of this coin you have white people constantly saying why do they, black people, why do they need to have their own minds of celebration? why don't we have our own month of celebration? the thing is that i grew up in this country andl is that i grew up in this country and i went through the school system here andl and i went through the school system here and i have seen what it is like

to teach the history that i have been taught. i am very proud of my caribbean heritage. i am also a proud englishman. ithink caribbean heritage. i am also a proud englishman. i think what happens is that a lot of the time we are only taught white history. we are only taught white history. we are only taught white history. we are only taught white english history. even in the commonwealth, you go to any commonwealth country, and the education system is based on the english grammar school systems. let tony response to that specific point. i don't need to repeat what simon said but he was only taught white history. what is white history? i was taught that as well. he is wrong about the commonwealth actually. you go to the caribbean now and the history they are taught is definitely very local. now, but back then. excuse me. in a caribbean we have a curriculum local things

are being taught, and very much from the point of view of the caribbean and toa the point of view of the caribbean and to a certain extent other things as well. let me explain what i mean by this. when this whole thing about black history month came around, it was driven by the local authorities and it was something that i think was very much an ideological thing, very much the sense that we had to repair something that was going wrong. but i have written history books that black kids can read and understand, and that is fine. but my issue here is you have got to get it right about what your motivations are around this otherwise it doesn't make any sense. that is why teachers have found it difficult. i think for me what should happen in schools as we should just be teaching history better. tony, sorry to cut you off, but i actually agree with you on that point. we should be teaching

history better. and the way in which we teach history better, we get to a point where we can be better at understanding the world. and from that perspective, i don't... let silent and cleo respond to the point about teaching history better. —— simon and cleo. i actually agree with that point. i don't think there should be a black history month. i think it makes us other. it makes a separate. and it makes people ask the question of why we should have it. cleo, are you struggling with simon saying that? it is not about not having it. it has been a great thing to have. our histories are

inextricably linked and that should be taught throughout the syllabus throughout the whole year. be taught throughout the syllabus throughout the whole yeahfi be taught throughout the syllabus throughout the whole year. it is not that i was struggling with it and i agree with many points that simon has made. but it is a comment that some of my teachers have said when i have said that black history month is coming on. why do we need a special month? and my response to them is my husband says why do i need valentine's day when i am romantic all the time? he isn't! some of the teachers are not as aware of the literature that they share with the students as they should be, and some of the posters and images that we have around our schools. if pupils are walking around school buildings and they don't see people that look like them every day, every year, what does that say to them about important historicalfigures from that say to them about important historical figures from our past? that say to them about important historicalfigures from our past? it is important for staff to have the time to reflect am i being as inclusive as i could be for my stu d e nts inclusive as i could be for my students and making sure they can

look up to imported images of people who look like me. finalthought, tony? i kind of agree with the teacher there. there is space for diverse images etc but we have got to be very careful here. what we wa nt to be very careful here. what we want to get our students to be, is able to deal with the world they see around them. that is the key element in this. the more and more we build their confidence, and not necessarily having a history that is specific and one monthjust necessarily having a history that is specific and one month just for them. that won't work. what will work, i think, them. that won't work. what will work, ithink, forthe them. that won't work. what will work, i think, for the students in particular, is really making history exciting and engaging. that can be from any perspective. ok, thank you. simon, ijust from any perspective. ok, thank you. simon, i just want to ask about your new exhibition at the national portrait gallery. we have got a couple that you kindly sent us. what is this about? as a child my mother

took me to the national portrait gallery and i walked around the gallery and year after year i walked around andl gallery and year after year i walked around and i just gallery and year after year i walked around and ijust felt that it is the family album of our nation's achievement and i didn't see anyone who looked like me. i wanted to know why and where our nation's achievements were who were black or asian or whatever. so i decided to do something about it, which was to look at the national portrait gallery's criteria for getting in. and selecting people from the community who met that criteria, photographing them, and making a bbc programme, which went out in 2016. and basically people have loved the work and they have been very receptive to this. i think it has been part of parcel of opening up a

new conversation about britain and what it looks like in the 215t century. thank you very much. simon, tony and cleo, we appreciate you coming in. still to come before 11 o'clock: would fining schools £5,000 when they permanently exclude pupils help reduce the number of exclusions? that is the idea that one council has but is it fair on the school? we will talk about that before 11 o'clock. kanye west is due to meet donald trump later at the white house to discuss boosting the number ofjobs in his home city of chicago and witness the signing of a bill to reform music licensing. the us president's senior adviser and son—in—law jared kushner will also be there. west has faced widespread criticism for his vocal support of the president. our entertainment correspondent, chi chi izundu, is here. tell us more about this incredible meeting. it is the first time that kanye meeting. it is the first time that ka nye west is meeting. it is the first time that kanye west is sitting down with donald trump since 2016, just before

trump won the presidential election to become president of the united states of america. they are going to talk about several things. according to kanye's wife, kim kardashian west, they are talking about exciting things that they are planning. she will not be there, as far as we know. kanye west will be talking to donald trump about gang violence in chicago, prison reform and manufacturing jobs as well. and he will witness the signing of this music modernisation act which is basically about royalties. how artists get paid for the music they have created, specifically about streaming and when they did publishing and recording before 1972, which kanye west doesn't have to worry about. he has received backlash for his public and open support of donald trump. two weeks ago he hosted saturday night live, and at the end he gave an impromptu

prodrug speech, which the camera is technically stopped rolling for which was not broadcast. —— pro trump speech. he was wearing a hat they make america great again and he has received a backlash for that. he clearly does have the ear of what some people describe as the world's leader. are they doing a press conference afterwards? they will have to talk about what they are talking about because everyone will wa nt to talking about because everyone will want to know. no doubt they will and donald trump will pay to social media, his favourite platform, to talk about it. and kanye west, now known as ye, has come off twitter and instagram, but the power of celebrity is important. taylor swift put on instagram encouraging 112 million followers to vote. and according to one website, that meant that more than 166,000 people registered to

vote within two days of her doing that. it was the largest spike they had seen in voter registration, particularly with 18 to 24—year—olds, since that started in 2016. the power of celebrity is huge. kanye west and taylor swift are two of the biggest music artists on the planet right now and the november primaries are important because they are trying to galvanise as much support for both sides as they can. thank you very much. i am going to read some of your many m essa g es going to read some of your many messages on obesity. research is out today suggesting that discrimination against people who are obese is actually more common than discrimination against gay people and people, then minorities. katie on facebook: eating can be an addiction and with today's pressures it can be easy to eat and become overweight. people shouldn't be discriminated against if their skills are still fit for the work

they want to do. john on facebook: eat less, move more. there is no excuse to be obese. it is well documented to be a massive drain on the nhs. nicky on email: ifeel really strongly about this. i am totally blind. i have been denied jobs that i know i am qualified for because i'm disabled and i have also been givenjobs because i'm disabled and i have also been given jobs because because i'm disabled and i have also been givenjobs because i am because i'm disabled and i have also been given jobs because i am the best person for them, but when i am told i can't do a job because i can't climb the stairs and i am told it would be a problem it is really hurtful. this is something i cannot change. i think that many people who are obese could change things to make their situation different. please keep your comments coming in. thank you for them. still to come before 11 o'clock: the former prime ministerjohn major says the government should rethink universal credit because it could lead to the same problems that the poll tax caused a previous conservative government in the 90s. if you are on universal credit or due to switch to it next year, let us know your

thoughts. and stop excluding pupils otherwise we will fine you £5,000. that is what one counsel is proposing and we will talk about that in the last half—hour. time for the latest news withjoanna. the bbc news headlines this morning: two people have died in one of the most powerful storms to have hit the united states. hurricane michael is now heading towards georgia, after leaving widespread destruction in florida. the storm knocked out power to a quarter of a million homes and businesses, as power lines were destroyed by falling trees. the former prime minister, sirjohn major, has strongly criticised the government's introduction of universal credit, where several existing benefits are rolled into one. he's warned that it could prove as damaging to the conservative party as the poll tax, which was so widely disliked that many people refused to pay. there were also riots. sirjohn told the bbc‘s political thinking podcast that voters would see it as unfair. downing street says £3 billion has been set aside to ease

the introduction of the payment. a spacecraft carrying two astronauts from the us and russia has been forced to make an emergency landing after taking off for a six month mission at the international space station. latest reports on russian state tv say there was a failure of the craft‘s booster rockets and that contact has been made with the crew, who have made an emergency landing the emergency is the failure of the booster. failure of the booster. companies could be forced to reveal their ethnicity pay gap under plans put forward by the prime minister. theresa may has launched a consultation on whether mandatory reporting will help address disparities between the pay

and career prospects of minorities. she acknowledged that minorities often feel like they are hitting a brick wall at work. the move follows the decision to make firms reveal their gender pay gaps. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. here's some sport now withjohn watson. john terry has taken on his first managerial role — he'll work as dean smith's assistant at aston villa, the club where terry finished his playing career. smith's a lifelong villa fan, terry is one of the most decorated players of his generation. the pair replace steve bruce, who was sacked earlier this month. british number one kyle edmund has moved a step closer to a first atp tour title — he's into the quarterfinals of the shanghai masters, with a straight—sets win over nicolas jarry. he faces alex zverez, the world number five for a place in the semifinals. rafa nadal, has been helping with the clean up on his home island of majorca, following the flash floods there. posting on twitter he said it was a sad day for majorca. and offered the use of his training

centre in manacor for anyone who needed shelter. and the gymnast simone biles says speaking about the abuse she suffered by us team doctor larry nasser has been empowering. she was one of 160 women who came forward. the four time olympic gold medallist returns to international competition after a two—year break this month. that's all the sport for now. the former conservative prime minister sirjohn major has strongly criticised universal credit — the government's key welfare reform and said it could cause the conservatives the same problems as the poll tax did for the tories back in 1990. thousands of people took to the streets of central london to demonstrate against margaret thatcher's controversial policy, which led to rioting and was a key factor in her downfall. sirjohn major, who scrapped the poll tax when he replaced mrs thatcher in downing street, says he isn't predicting riots, but says if people think it's unfair then you're in "deep political trouble".

his criticism comes the day after another ex—pm, labour's gordon brown said the roll—out of universal credit risks "social unrest". universal credit is a new benefit for working—age people that consolidates into one monthly payment six separate benefits. it was aimed at making the system simpler so people who are able to work are rewarded for doing so. here's sirjohn major speaking to the bbc‘s nick robinson on the political thinking podcast. in order to introduce something like a universal credit, you need to look at those people who in the short term are going to lose and protect them or you will run into the sort of problems that the conservative party ran into with the poll tax in the late 1980s. so the principle has a great deal to commend it, but it isn't workable if there aren't the resources to introduce it properly. to find someone on a very low income

suddenly losing £2,400 a year is a substantial amount. and the argument that it's to encourage people to get into work isn't an argument that runs, to me, on something of that sort. so, i don't oppose the principle of universal credit. i think there is a real danger it will be introduced too soon and in the wrong circumstances. at the weekend, the times reported that the work and pension secretary, esther mcvey, had told cabinet colleagues that millions of families moving onto universal credit next year would be £200 a month worse off, the equivalent of £2,400 a year worse off. at prime minister's questions yesterday, theresa may said people "will not see any reduction" and "will be protected". let's get reaction now from conservatrive mp nigel mills, who sits on the work and pensions committee. and in aberdeen is the snp's mp drew

hendry, who says universal credit has been a disaster. and one of the many viewers who got in touch on this melony goss in bridgewater. nigel, do you agree with sirjohn major? i agree iagree in i agree in part with whatjohn major has to say. it isn't like that when we do has to say. it isn't like that when wedoa has to say. it isn't like that when we do a major reform like this, we should make sure that no vulnerable person is worse off. but as he also said, this is sensible reform trying to simplify the system. the experience of my constituency in a few months it's been working has been quite positive. thejob few months it's been working has been quite positive. the job centre staff are much happier, they can explain the system to be bloody but understand that if they work they are better off. but there is a huge

job next year —— they can explain the system to people and they understand. we have to make sure that the system works for them and on time and that they are not worse. there are protections in the system is when people first move, they won't be first off but —— worst off but we need to work through these issues. people will be worse off? they will, that is what estimate they said. the transitional detection is that when people move into universal credit from the existing benefit system, if their new cash award is less than their old one, they will keep their old one but it won't increase over time by inflation. if their circumstances change, they lose that protection. it is reported that estimate by the work and pensions secretary told the cabinet at the weekend that from next april, millions, millions of families switching over would be £2400 per year worse off. what is correct to say is that a new claimant would be worse off, compared to an existing claimant.

somebody moving next year from the old system into the new one won't immediately be worse. you said yourself there is £3 billion in the budget for that transitional protection, that is what that is there for. i would rather see we reverse the production of the previous chancellor made three years ago so we can be absolutely certain as best we can that for all families in universal credit they will always be better off in work. there are real questions about whether lone pa rents real questions about whether lone parents and second earners would be better off in work. drew hendry of the smp, you heard nigel mills say people in his constituency are reasonably positive, what about in your own constituency? it has been devastating. we were a pilot area for the role in universal credit in inverness. over five years ago coming up for six years. during that time, we have seen enormous personal devastation for people. this view that people don't lose money is absolute nonsense. one of the things

that happened immediately when we saw the introduction of universal credit in inverness was that people immediately went into rent arrears, because of the way they have structured the system. the debt started to roll up. people that were disabled that had severe disability payments moved on to the new system lost those. there were genuine reductions. but the worst thing about this whole process has been that during that time, despite all the pleading and cajoling and begging that has gone on not only from people like me, the constituents, the support agencies, all of that has been ignored. people have had to put up with this shambles of a system that has seen them often without money for months, without payments at all, without food, without money for rent. it's just been an unmitigated disaster for people in our area. melanie got in touch with us. she is in somerset. how are you?” in touch with us. she is in somerset. how are you? i am all right. you are on universal credit

moving over from esa, right. you are on universal credit moving overfrom esa, what has it been like for you? don't even go there. it has been an absolute nightmare. i can't remember the name, the guy with the short... with the plain tie on. nigel mills, conservative mp. sorry. melanie is spelt wrong. just to say that food banks have increased. my personal experienced is that i have suffered with multiple sclerosis for over 20 years and i moved from bournemouth to bridgewater, which they immediately said you've got to go on universal credit because of the area. ok, ididn't universal credit because of the area. ok, i didn't really know much about it apart from people seem to be waiting for the rest of their lives for the first payment. i waited six weeks for the first payment. they failed to tell me about what they called advanced payments, which i suppose is a loan in better terms. they didn't tell me

that, until the day after. she said to me,| that, until the day after. she said to me, i remember, i had never heard of it. it was through a friend that i founded. they said i was a day late. for the first six weeks i was boring, begging, not stealing, from different things —— i was borrowing. so that i could live. it kind of got sorted out about three weeks ago, maybe. at a push. what would you say the impact of that change over and the impact of that change over and the six weeks of waiting and having to borrow and get into debt has had on you and your health? in terms of health, terrible. i had a couple of relapses, not major ones, but enough so that i can't really do anything properly. the stress has been absolutely phenomenal. i'm a pretty strong minded person, so i really feel for these people is that have to sit there and put up with these

at this government who kind of talks down to us, let's be honest and put up down to us, let's be honest and put up with this garment. nigel mills, you can't be proud of a reform that leaves people feeling like that.” agree with what melanie said. firstly, the existing benefits system we are replacing produced many terrible outcomes as well. we had to deal with sick systems, withdrawing the benefits. that's no consolation if people are let in debt because they don't get money for six weeks. not starting from a perfect situation making it worse, we are trying to make it better. the situation melanie outlined, there was an extra billion pounds put in universal credit a year ago in the budget to take out some of that six weeks a. it was wrong. i was clear in my opening remarks. —— six weeks away. i said we shouldn't roll uc further until we get the right amount of people at the right time. it's a joke. are you calling for a pause on it right now? what i'm saying is that we shouldn't be

planning next summer to ad million more people to the system with complicated cases until we are sure we can make it with simple cases —— we can make it with simple cases —— we should not be adding millions more. if by next summer we cannot be sure then it should be pause. melanie? ijust think sure then it should be pause. melanie? i just think he was stumbling. no just respect melanie? i just think he was stumbling. nojust respect that melanie? i just think he was stumbling. no just respect that you we re stumbling. no just respect that you were stumbling a bit, you knew you we re were stumbling a bit, you knew you were caught in a bit of a trap —— no disrespect. some people who don't have a voice, who do vocal and erudite cannot get their point across. “— erudite cannot get their point across. — — who erudite cannot get their point across. —— who are erudite cannot get their point across. “ who are not erudite cannot get their point across. —— who are not vocal. fortunately i can. unfortunately, the system dictates to me that i am sitting there, telling these people look what is going on. i have been told the system is not very good. my re nt told the system is not very good. my rent has to be manually done. every single time i am due a payment because if not i am in a three—bedroom, it is too big for me,

obviously, i have to do the bedroom tax. i obviously, i have to do the bedroom tax. lam obviously, i have to do the bedroom tax. i am entitled to two bedrooms, instead of that they even told me "sorry, for some reason the system can only do one bedroom or three bedroom", why not two bedrooms? i was outraged, it is ridiculous. that man was fumbling! pause it. how dare you lump loads of other people next year on the same problem that everybody else is having, it's disgraceful and you should be ashamed of yourself. sorry, you should be. to respond, mr mills? i am not the government, i am not rolling this out. you are a conservative mp enter party is in power. -- and your party. we shouldn't continue the roll out if it doesn't work, i agree with those points. would you back a pause or would you say it should be scrapped, drew? i have been calling for a halt to this for over five years. we saw theseissues to this for over five years. we saw these issues right away. it should

be stopped. it has gone beyond repair. the issue about the idea about reducing complexity, everybody agrees that you should have a system thatis agrees that you should have a system that is less complex. as melanie has pointed out and many other people, this system is actually far more complex than the old system people had to face. when it comes to their own ability to access it. it has been an absolute shambles. we have had people trying to get by for three weeks on less than 30p. it's an absolute disgrace. it needs to be stopped and they need to listen to people. thank you. thank you very much. no problem. keith says i changed over last week i will be £320 per worse off. i have a six—week payment weight. dennis says my daughter has had a mental health issue from the age of 16. she

is 39 and was put on universal credit last year that it was three months before she was given any payment. she had to have a government loan which is paid back. the rest of the money covers rent and council tax and there is next to nothing left. my wife and i provide money out of our pensions to help with food and electricity for her and her 16—year—old son. we buy him clothes and most other things. we bought her a cheap fridge last month as wells, without one. i could go on but this cruel universal credit affects us all as a family. coming up... busting the myths about women and sex. we speak to the author of a new book which challenges common presumptions about lust and infidelity and libido. a council is considering making schools which exclude pupils pay a fine of up to £5,000 — that money would then be paid to the school that child moves to. gloucestershire county council came up with the idea after it found the number of permanent exclusions in the county was above the national average.

it said it hoped the plans could mean fewer children face the disruption of moving school. in february this year, we spent time in a pupil referral unit in london, where i sat down for lunch with some of the pupils who had been excluded from mainstream schools. how's it going? how do you find it here, at this school? it's a good place. it helps you to behave. you get guidance. and miss manachy is a very good teacher. is she? ah... and she shows tough love. tough love? what does that mean for you? well, tough love means it's pretty tough, it's discipline. if you're being unsafe, they restrain you. they restrain you? has that ever happened to you? it has happened a lot of times. restrainment ain't... it isn't very nice. it's not comfortable. andrew, are you going back to mainstream school, soon, is that right? how do you feel about that?

ummm...ifeel good, happy that i've come a long way. and now i'm going back to mainstream. because miss manachy has helped me, since i was in year three. can you remember what you used to be like? i used to think i wasjust bad man. if anybody used to do any little thing, stick their tongue out at me, i used to flip. you used to flip? but now ijust ignore. ijust ignore. i tell the teacher. i don't fight any more. and what about you? why do you think you used to get cross or angry or. . .anxious? every time it was a different reason. now, i think ijust made the choice to do it, now. so, you make good choices, now? yeah. but sometimes, i do it a little bit. only, like, a tiny bit, but i don't do a big, big reaction. logan, what about you?

it's confusing, because the other building i used to get restrained so much. right. until that got knocked down and this one was made. and andrew, can you remember why you used to get cross and angry when you were in your old school? what do you think was going on? i wanted my own way. i never had anger issues, but any little thing, i used to just get angry. i didn't know why. but since i've come here, my behaviour has improved a lot. when i mean a lot, i mean a lot. yeah. brilliant. those children was amazing and so was the pru. let's speak to di harrill, she teaches phse at a school in gloucester and also works in numerous other schools across the county and to sarah murphy, she's the gloucester divisional secratary of the national education union. what do you think of this idea,

sarah? i actually don't think it's going to be effective, we are very carefully the reasons for exclusions and that they are not simplistic. in gloucestershire, we have grammar schools and inclusive comprehensive schools. if this policy were to be lamented, by the nature of the inclusive comprehensive schools, they are going to suffer a significant greater number of the 5000 that is there. di, all a teacher has to do is not in as many as is happening. i totally agree with what sarah is saying. it is too simplistic. as with other counties, gloucestershire has a grammar school syste m gloucestershire has a grammar school system with creams off and that usually are academic or with parents and carers behind them that are really promoting their education.

that can actually cause other schools in the county to actually pick upa schools in the county to actually pick up a much higher level of young people that need a fresh start. my personal opinion is that each school should very carefully look at maintaining that young person's education, keeping them there. but that needs to be from a wide angle. ido that needs to be from a wide angle. i do teach pshe personal social health education, within numerous other things in the school because it is key to keeping children and there. their mental health needs to be supported with their family involved, there needs to be lots of different angles. of course. but there was something going on because there was something going on because the county council looked at the figures. what's going on in gloucestershire is that there are more pupils being excluded and it is higher than the national average. there's got to be something going on. this might be a way of reducing those exclusions. exactly. but we need to look behind the figures. why are those students being excluded.

one could argue with the 8% real terms cut per—pupil cut in funding to schools, school class sizes are increasing the number of teaching assista nts increasing the number of teaching assistants are being reduced. that will have an impact on some students more than others. i would like to comment on the fact that there is a slight in exclusions in year ten and 11, one could argue that is a result of the high—sta kes 11, one could argue that is a result of the high—stakes accountability system we are working within, for example, progress eight. so, if schools consider that a student's results might adversely affect their dates,if results might adversely affect their dates, if they have been disrupted over a period of time and put support in to help maintaining them in school, it could be that they are finally excluded in year ten and 11. we need to look behind that as well. 0k, we need to look behind that as well. ok, thank you. i appreciate it. "women want less sex than men. women are naturally

more faithful than men. men are meant to have more sex than women because they produce thousands of sperm and women have a limited number of eggs." these, and many other presumptions about women and sex, and the female sex drive, are all challenged in a book which is published today and looks at women, lust and infidelity. wednesday martin is the author of the book untrue and she is with us now from new york, in her first uk tv interview, to tell us more about it. if you're watching with young children and don't want them to watch us talking in detail about sex and sexuality, then the discussion is likely to last between five and ten minutes. although they won't understand the half of it. they might ask you questions about it. thank you for coming on the programme. do you believe in lifelong sexual exclusivity? it's not a question of what i believe in or not but the 30 experts are you interviewed, when i was writing my book, untrue, and the women who have actually experienced infidelity first—hand committing it make a very compelling argument that

what —— while we might really value monogamy, it is a struggle notjust for men but for women as well. in surveys, up to 90% in people in my country saint monogamy is the right way, they are also curious about their options —— in my country say. we know that something like 20% of adults in the uk and us have been unfaithful, a word i don't like very much. why not? why don't you like the word unfaithful?” much. why not? why don't you like the word unfaithful? i think the word unfaithful is pretty pejorative. we might want to consider terms that are less judgmental, given the fact that so many people struggle with monogamy. like what terms would you use?” think we might use terms like extra pair involvement, final tennis relationships, extramarital sexuality. these are all times that sting a little bit less and might

make it easier for people disclose what they are doing and easier for people to give themselves a little bit of understanding. particularly women. we know that there is extra stigma for them when they struggle with monogamy. yeah. your book looks at women who refuse monogamy, if i can put it like that. why do you think that that is seen by society as so negative, when women are not bothered about monogamy? it's an interesting conundrum that women find themselves in. numerous sex research is telling us that the mother ‘s ire is every bit as strong as male desire. when we measure it, —— female's desire is every bit. the institutionalisation of roles, the overfamiliarity with their spouses, they are things that are particularly damp and female desire. what we are learning is that long—term relationships may be harder on female desire than on male desire. women may have a harder time with monogamy than men. this is all

relatively new science. part of the reason that there is this double standard and it is hard for women to be honest about their sexual desires outside their long—term partnerships to figure out a solution that works for them is that they are told there is something unnatural about having a strong sex drive. or there is something unnatural about monogamy being difficult for them. so much of the script about what we tell women about their sexuality is paid in the country. it exciting new researchers are getting new information and it will help men and women alike. are getting new information and it will help men and women alikem what way? the more we give women permission to be honest about their sexual desires, without telling them there is something odd going on here, because monogamy are supposed to be easierfor women, the more we give these women permission, the more they will be able to normalise the struggles they may be having in their marriages or long—term

relationships. and then seek out solutions that really work. we never in recent research women need sexual variety and novelty and adventure every bit as much as men do. we know this from the work of researchers like doctor leeann wolf and doctor meredith chivers. we have this data. we know that women tend to shut down earlier, sexually, in a long—term relationship than men do. how can this data in form what couples decide to do in their sex lives? how can we get women the novelty and variety and adventure they want if they decide they want to remain monogamous the marriage or in a long—term partnerships. monogamous the marriage or in a long-term partnerships. watch suggestions were made in the people you spoke to in your research question of the experts and interesting things, one of them, lisa dimond said if monogamy were easyin lisa dimond said if monogamy were easy in long—term relationships, we wouldn't have to have hundreds of books about that. let's start from the starting point that monogamy is a struggle, sometimes for men and

women alike. to introduce variety and novel and adventure couples can doa number of and novel and adventure couples can do a number of things. women can certainly avail themselves of sex toys and we know from the work of the sex abuse search that women enjoy watching themselves having sex —— from the work of a sex researcher that women. when couples do new and exciting activities together that have nothing to do with sex, taking tango lessons, going on a zip line orjust going out to watch a thriller, a movie, going on a roller—coaster, that can give them a rush of the kind of hormones and chemicals that come along with puppy love and it can be a bad feelings of excitement between spouses who have been together for a long time or partners who are overly familiar with one another. very briefly... there are plenty of solutions and i get into them all in untrue. what impact have dating apps had on women

being in control of their sexual desires, really briefly?” being in control of their sexual desires, really briefly? i believe that tech has had a tremendously positive impact on female sexual autonomy. it allows women in some insta nces to autonomy. it allows women in some instances to make an andromeda around men who might be controlling of them. it allows them to connect socially with people without everybody watching and judging. for good and for bad, technology is certainly allowing many women to be more autonomous in their sexual behaviours. thank you, wednesday. thank you. thank you for getting up so early to talk to us. thank you for your many comments about universal credit. the government says universal credit is based on the sound principles that work should always pay and those who need support receive it. we are listening says this government statements, to concerns about achieving these principles, improving the benefit and targeting support to the most vulnerable.

including for around 1 million disabled people who will receive a higher award under universal credit. this is a far cry from the confusing, and reliable legacy system that failed to pay claimants theirfull system that failed to pay claimants their full entitlement and consigned people to a lifetime on benefits. thank you for your company today. back tomorrow at 9am. bbc newsroom live is coming up next. thank you for your company today. have a good day. the, is a. if the isle of wight. brains was years with showers clearing away. here are a fairly high, 20, 20 two

celsius but further west a cooler day compared to yesterday, even though it clears away from western parts —— 22 celsius. it will clearly the north sea and clear skies for many of us in the early part of friday morning before further rain from the west. this rain is associated with storm callum with strong winds and heavy rain through friday and saturday. south wales in particular, the met office has issued an amber be prepared warning for impacts over the next few days. goodbye. you're watching bbc newsroom live. it's11am and these

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