good morning. welcome to breakfast, with louise minchin and dan walker. our headlines today: a crucial 48 hours as theresa may tries to save her brexit plan. the prime minister meets her cabinet this morning before heading to brussels to try to break the deadlock. and as the duke and duchess of sussex confirm they'll be parents in the spring. australians welcome the news with a few special gifts. good morning. an extra £19 billion a year will have to be found by the government if it is to uphold theresa may's promise that austerity is over, that's according to a major report out today. i'll have the details. sterling is stunning in seville, as england win in spain for the first time in over 30 years. and after reigning supreme over the ice, double olympic champion lizzy yarnold retires from skelleton. she's on the sofa at 8:10am. good morning from central london.

we're at little venice this morning, bringing news of foggy conditions to start the day for england and wales. a mostly dry day for you but for scotla nd a mostly dry day for you but for scotland and northern ireland, expect some showers in the forecast. i'll have the details for you on brea kfast. it's tuesday the 16th of october. our top story: in the next few hours, theresa may will brief her cabinet on the deadlock in the brexit negotiations. senior ministers voiced concerns about her proposals during a meeting over pizza last night. here's our political correspondent, nick eardley. how to guarantee no hard border in ireland after brexit? still the key stumbling block to a deal with europe. the prime minister is offering an insurance policy which could see the uk follow europe's customs rules for a period. theresa may's playing down the idea that could end up being a long—term arrangement, but some want guarantees there would be a strict time limit. the brexit secratary, dominic raab,

and the foreign secretary, jeremy hunt, were among eight ministers who met last night over pizza. they discussed the need for an end date to a customs deal, an issue that's likely to come up again this morning at the cabinet table. the stakes are high. the pm will be hoping she can maintain a sense of unity in government today, because tomorrow, an even bigger challenge as she heads to brussels to try and persuade other european leaders a breakthrough is possible. nick eardley, bbc news. political correspondent leila nathoo is in westminster. leila, a crucial 48 hours? there seems to be so many days that are critical. theresa may really has got to do something special in the next 24—48 hours? got to do something special in the next 24-48 hours? she does, her cabinet meeting is the first hurdle. her top team should be herfirst line of the fence, but she spent the recent months trying to wind her ministers onto her brexit strategies. remember their

objections about notjust her ideas for the future relationship but over the insurer and policy over the irish border if a future trade deal isn't done in time. this meeting of ministers will be key. there were talks of resignations, we will see if those threats have melted away. any deal she's done in the 11th hour with brussels will have to be sold backin with brussels will have to be sold back in westminster. if you look at yesterday in the commons when she made her statement trying to reassure the house of commons about her strategy, explain what happened when negotiations faltered over the weekend, she got hostility from all sides, different camps with different gripes over different aspects of her strategy. so getting the cabinet meeting onside, then going to brussels tomorrow to try to sell her strategy to eu leaders will be absolutely critical to see whether a deal can actually be done. leila, we will talk to you throughout the morning. thank you very much for the moment. thank you.

a further delay to the rollout of universal credit is being planned, according to leaked documents seen by the bbc. it's also suggested that there are plans to spend hundreds of millions of pounds to ease the hardship when claimants are moved onto the system. here's social affairs correspondent, michael buchanan. it was meant to make things easier, bringing six different benefits into one monthly payment. but the rollout of universal credit has already yea rs of universal credit has already years behind schedule, and now we've learned it's going to be further delayed. the next step, moving up to 4 million benefit recipients on the universal credit, want now properly start until november, 2020. more than a year later than planned. in the commons yesterday, the secretary of state hinted at such a delay. the commons yesterday, the secretary of state hinted at such a delaym won't be starting injanuary in 2019, it will be later on in the year, and then for a further year, with a small amount of people, maybe 10,000 people, we will be learning as we go to make sure it is right, and then it will increase in the

rollout from 2020 onwards. leaked documents we've seen suggest ministers want to use the delay to link significant changes to universal credit, and with evidence the use of food banks increases when the use of food banks increases when the benefit is introduced in an area. the dwp hope to continue paying some benefits to claimants foran paying some benefits to claimants for an extra fortnight. existing benefits currently stop when someone applies for universal credit. reduce the maximum reductions that can be taken from a universal credit payment and make it easier for self—employed people to receive the new benefit. paying for the changes, which would cost hundreds of millions of pounds, still needs to be approved by the treasury. the problem we have is it's becoming together of a big benefit change with large welfare cuts at the same time that is making this toxic. the government should as a priority both improve the operation of universal credit but also reserves the might reverse some of those cuts that are making a political rollout of this credit so difficult. but tentative plans to also continue paying child tax benefits for a

fortnight, crucial to single parents in particular, were seemingly scrapped because they were deemed undeliverable because of the way universal credit operates. the department for work and pensions said it did not comment on leaks. michael buchanan, bbc news. the duke and duchess of sussex have been on their first public outing since it was revealed that they are due to become parents. the couple are in australia for their debut overseas tour. let's speak to our correspondent hywel griffith, who's in sydney. underneath the bridge. plenty of attention yesterday, i saw some of the rolling news coverage from every channel, about the bump? absolutely. no one really expected the news when the pair landed yesterday, so it's been celebrated as they started their trail around. they've hit the tourist trail today, the trip to the zoo tourist trail today, the trip to the zoo for the inevitable picture with the koala and then across the harbour to the opera house, where there were hundreds waiting. all the

time they've been accumulating gifts for the baby. the first presence included a pair of baby ugg boots, to be warned... his or hers, doesn't matter, a cuddly kangaroo for the nursery, then people brought their own gifts, some cuddly koalas, some extra luggage added onto the 16 day tour. they've finished their walk around sydney for the day, they're back at admiral teahouse, where they're staying, having afternoon tea were prince harry has banked them for putting on tea and beer —— and roll teahouse. the polls suggest here that australia is maybe falling out of love with the monarchy and would like to become a republic. thanks very much, hywel. plenty more on that through the morning. we will have a look at the papers this morning, the daily mail has gone big with a pull out and everything. president trump has said he is aware of unconfirmed reports that saudi arabia is preparing to say that the missing journalist, jamal khashoggi, died during an unauthorised interrogation at its consulate in turkey.

0fficials investigating the disappearance of the prominent saudi critic have been searching the building in istanbul. the us secretary of state, mike pompeo, is flying to saudi arabia for a meeting with the country's leadership. 0ffences motivated by prejudice against men could become hate crimes as part of a government review. figures released today are expected to show a spike in hate crime in england and wales. ministers are also looking to include misogyny and ageism. here's home aaffairs correspondent danny shaw. talking about hate crime, these kids at globe primary school in east london are meeting government minister lady williams to tell her what they have learnt from a course on equality and diversity. the home office is funding more projects like this as part of a new hate crime action plan. we learnt about stereotypes, and we learnt not to judge people by just what they look like or just what we know about them. we should get to know them

more and then judge them by their personality, not by their appearance. you don'tjudge a book by its cover, it's a good saying. you don'tjudge people by their parents. you have to be nice to people, respect them and notjudge them by the way they look or what, like, their religion has done in the past, because everyone is different and you have to respect them. but the law on hate crime could be about to change. as well as getting schools to tackle the problem, the home office has announced a legal review. it'll look at extending the definition of hate crimes to include offences motivated by a hatred of women and men. people have come to us and it is right that we ask them to look at it and maybe that we don't take it forward. it would be very interesting to hear what the law commission says. the law commission review will also consider if offences targeting older people, and those from alternative cultures, such as goths, should be defined as hate crimes,

though more lessons about tolerance won't be needed here. danny shaw, bbc news, tower hamlets. more on that laterfor more on that later for use. —— more on that laterfor use. —— more on that later for you. the consumer group which? says parents should stop using one of three market—leading child stair gates after it failed the firm's safety tests which? tested ten gates to see how they would withstand being pulled by a child. it says the dream baby gate should be immediately recalled. dream baby said complaints about its products are rare but are investigated immediately. facebook has brought in new rules for political advertising on the social network in the uk. from now on, anyone running a political advert will have to prove their identity and say who has paid for it. this system is already in operation in the united states and brazil. the rap star kanye west, now known as ye, has dropped in on another world leader, this time he and his wife kim kardashian have been meeting uganda's president. the meeting was aimed at promoting

tourism in east africa but seemed a bit more subdued in comparison to the rapper's chat with president trump a few days ago. the couple are in uganda to finish recording ye's ninth studio album. they gave the president a signed pair of the star's white trainers, and in return he gave them ugandan names. tremendous! i want to know what the names are. more information required on that one. definitely. i think you should just be known as ease from now on. i quite like that, ease. it is better than ease, not lou, ease! i like lou! only joking! trying to abbreviate raheem sterling's name quickly. ster? he was brilliant last

night. a fantastic performance from him. not before time, we've been waiting for a long time for that performance from him, an boy did he deliver last night! the talks in the papers about what he thought was wrong with him. we'll talk about that in a moment —— an boy. sterling hadn't scored for england for over 1,000 days, but he put away two goals in seville last night as england beat spain 3—2 in the nations league. it was their first win on spanish soil for 31 years. but it's played three, lost three for northern ireland. they were beaten 2—0 by bosnia hertzegovina and they're bottom of their group. britain's greatest winter 0lympian, lizzie yarnold, is retiring from skeleton, saying she wants to put a few more things on her cv. she won gold at the last two games, making her the most successful athlete in her event. she'll be on the sofa just after 8am. and billy vunipola will miss england's autumn internationals after he broke his arm playing for saracens over the weekend. it leaves head coach eddiejones short in the number 8 position.

thank you very much! both in grossed in the papers and. one of the most looked up things on the internet yesterday, looked up phrases, when is bring? —— engrossed in the papers. the royal baby will arrive in the spring. there's one person who can hopefully clear this up for us. young matthew! here's matt with a look at this morning's weather. he's in little venice for us talking about what we should and shouldn't feed our ducks. when is spring? you say clear it up, there's two definitions, meteorologically, it is march, april and may. however, if you follow the astronomical calendar, it from the spring equinox, which is the 20 odd of march next year, taking spring to the 21st of june of march next year, taking spring to the 21st ofjune —— 21st of march. you can take either! good morning, i'm in little venice in central london, a short way away from the

congestion of paddington and it's a little oasis of calm. we're talking ducks through the morning, the canal and river trust reminding us not to feed the ducks bred but we look at some of the options you could use to feed the ducks. they're probably all asleep, as some of the country are at this time of the morning. not a bad start for many. most places dry at the moment but the forecast is for mist and fog. a murky night in england and we, that could hamper the morning commute. a bit sluggish on some of the roads as well. brightening up here but in scotla nd well. brightening up here but in scotland and northern ireland, seen some rain. it comes from a weather front pushing into the north—west of the country and with it you will see isobars tightening, a stronger breeze to come, touching gale force wind times, maybe 50 mph gusts in the far north of scotland and that will bring rain at times in northern ireland this morning and through mid—morning into the afternoon in parts of scotland, heading south. brightening up in northern scotland later. england and wales, misty and

foggy to start but that will lift. brighterfor some in foggy to start but that will lift. brighter for some in the midlands and the south—west and the best of the sunshine in the south and east. with the winds lightest, this is where we see the highest temperatures, we could get to 21 or 23 in the south—east corner this afternoon. another feel of summer as we get further into autumn. cooler further north because of the breeze and that will still be there through the night. cloudy patchy rain in northern england, wales, the midlands and the south—west with the odd heavy burst possible in south—west england. either side of that, clear skies around, some mist and fog patches and temperatures into single figures so many will have a cooler night tonight than through last night. into wednesday morning, for those in south—west england, maybe the south—east wales through to the midlands and lincolnshire and northern east anglia, a zone of cloud, occasional rain and drizzle, heaviest bursts in the south—west but either side of it, dry and bright weather with sunshine around but feeling cooler

than of late. 0n sunshine around but feeling cooler than of late. on thursday, high pressure starts to build in, promoting dry weather, morning mist and fog. chillier start on thursday morning across the country and a bit ofa morning across the country and a bit of a breeze, top and tail of the country with the odd shower in the english channel but most will have a fine day with good sunny spells. temperatures akin to what they will be when we go into spring, somewhere around the low to mid teens. that's how it's looking. more through the morning. back to dan and louise. with the royal baby news, it could be much, april or may. talking about, one story dominates the front pages. the duke and duchess of sussex are expecting a baby. it takes up all of the daily mail's front page. it quotes a source close to the couple, who claims prince harry is an "emotional wreck,

but in a good way". the picture on the front shows the duchess in sydney yesterday. and an 8— page souvenir picture pullout. what are the pictures of? the daily mirror says kensington palace sought medical advice for meghan as she embarks on a tour with prince harry. they will go to visit fiji and tonga. pregnant women have been advised not to go to countries due to concerns about the zika virus. and ourformer colleague bill turnbull also features. he's been talking about how going public with his diagnosis for prostate cancer last year has helped save lives. the daily express claims victory for its campaign respect for the elderly, as the government considers whether offences motivated by ageism should be considered hate crimes. the picture at the top shows the tv host, ant mcpartlin and his estranged wife, lisa who are due to be divorced today. and finally, the metro leads on brexit with an image of mrs may heading to the commons yesterday.

the paper says the pm has ruled out creating a customs border with northern ireland, and again, another image of the duchess with northern ireland, and again, another image of the duchess with the headline ‘megxit‘, claiming the royal baby is due the same day brexit will be delivered. and if you've got a few minutes to spare later today, head on over to our facebook page to hear the poet, tony walsh aka ‘longfella' wax lyrical as to why blue peter is the greatest children's programme as the show celebrates its 60th birthday. let's take a look at today's papers. i hosted a blue peter 0lympic tour

backin i hosted a blue peter 0lympic tour back in 2012. why aren't you wearing it? i would wear it every day. a prized possession. there was lots of analysis done at looking at it. tap and go technology has taken over. we are using contactless technology into the machines rather than tapping in pin numbers. this is analysis of payment done by world p5y~ analysis of payment done by world pay. 51% of all car payments are done with tap and go. not a surprise given how much technology is changing. i'm interested in what that will mean for physical money. we are not going to need so much of it any more. there are few places

where they don't take cash. there are still some people out there with checks. we had to have a window fixed in our house. can you give us a cheque? where on earth is it? how do they even rate any more? she did haveitin do they even rate any more? she did have it in her bag for some reason. i felt have it in her bag for some reason. ifelt in have it in her bag for some reason. i felt in the end there were two left. let's talk about last night's game. last night's brilliant match. lots of people might enjoy this moment here. eric dyer and his crunching tackle last night. it was absolutely brilliant. a glorious moment to watch. it was really great to see sergio rhum is this stood up

to see sergio rhum is this stood up toa to see sergio rhum is this stood up to a few people on a few occasions over the last season. theyjust think if you watching look at those spaces. the pictures this morning are all fabulous from last night's game. we have the goals at 6:30 a.m.. they should have had a penalty. yes. it was pictured mistake a blunder. what do you consider a human right? 2000 adults surveyed about what they are human rights should be. access to water, rights should be. access to water, right to a fair trial and freedom of speech. free wi—fi. a seat on the train. marry whoever you want. that's an interesting one. assuming they have two agreed. this is a very good point. a choice of seat on the

plane. public phone charging points asa human plane. public phone charging points as a human rights and at phone charging stations, it is a human right. i would agree with the still of those. this is a picture which was spotted in a documentary with donald trump yesterday. it's the presidents, george w bush, all together pictured together. donald trump rather liked it. he says he likes the way his smile has been painted. a lot of them are drinking alcohol and he is not, he has a glass of cola. all the other dudes are dead. is that in heaven? i don't know. it was a work by andy thomas. he did a similar one for democrat

presidents. another council killjoys story. in county durham, people have donned santa costumes and toured the streets but they can't do it any more because last year, there was a offence caused because they state clearly in the local bylaws that no person shall travel on the back of a moving vehicle without a seatbelt so sa nta cla us moving vehicle without a seatbelt so santa claus has to have a seatbelt on the slate. elephants safety. i was going to ask about that headline? they must have a seatbelt and be visible over the costume. that means they can't be out and about. 0h, that means they can't be out and about. oh, i'm torn on that one. safety should come first. you are officially a killjoy. new research published today has shed new light on a sensitive subject which can go by largely unnoticed —

self—harm amongst the over—65s. it's an issue that's commonly associated with teenagers and young adults, but scientists behind this latest research have told breakfast that it's vital more attention is paid to the problems experienced by older people, as breakfast‘s john maguire reports. for more than 20 years, jane used to hurt herself deliberately. for more than 20 years, jane used to hurt herself deliberatelylj for more than 20 years, jane used to hurt herself deliberately. i was raped and i was much younger and i almost learned to be a robot where emotion was concerned. i used to bruce myself on my arms mainly and then after a while, people started to notice that i got quite a lot of bruises. self harm comes in many forms. now both online and in person, jane helps others in a similar position through her self—help self harm group. similar position through her self-help self harm group. we've had people come to the group where they have even been to proper therapy places and they've been told, stopped doing it, it is silly. and

when you are sort of in your 50s and 60s, to be told your silly, i think straightaway that makes them not wa nt to straightaway that makes them not want to reach out. the first study of its kind, researchers from keele and manchester universities found that 90% of over 65 is to self harm we re that 90% of over 65 is to self harm were not referred for specialist mental health help and crucially warning signs are being missed. self harm is a risk factor for suicide across the age range but in this study, self harm in all the people was associated with 145 times increased risk of subsequent death by suicide. and that's really important because it is a reminder to service providers, service managers that self harm is a real opportunity to intervene. and psychologists say one of the reasons the group is at such a high risk is the group is at such a high risk is the reluctance to ask for help. younger people will talk about their

difficulties and distress using a very different language in a different way than older people do. 0lder different way than older people do. older people we know from the research go to their gp, talking about physical health problems rather than talking about distress or depression or anxiety and we need to enable people to have those conversations. the government says, more can be done. jackie doyle—price, the uk's first minister for suicide prevention, was appointed last week with an objective to ensure every part of the country has a prevention plan. backed by 25 billion —— 20 £5 million of extra funding. mental health has a profile today like never before but still, there are many who suffer in silence and all to often take their own lives. john mcquire, bbc news, manchester. if you have been affected by any of the issues raised, you can find details of organisations which offer advice and support on the bbc actionline website at bbc.co.uk slash actionline. —— bbc.co.uk/actionline. we will speak to lizzie yarmouth, a

double in the big champion who is announced retirement from sport. it's one of those sports that takes a lot of wear and tear on your body. extraordinarily brave. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london news, i'm charlotte franks. an online fundraising platform has announced it will scrap fees for campaigns set up in response to major disasters and incidents following criticism from the mp for bermondsey last month. the labour politician, neil coyle, claimed justgiving had profited from £500,000 of public donations

including money raised for grenfell tower residents and victims of the london bridge attack. a range of new equipment will be installed in london's buses, as part of plans to make them the safest in the world. as of next spring, they'll be installed with automatic speed reduction technology, reversing cameras, and anti—slip flooring. later on, the network will also be kitted out with advanced emergency braking. the university of reading is backing a project to help save the declining bee population which experts say is threatening hundreds of billions of pounds in food production. the world bee project will help paint the first ever picture of the state of bees. figures suggest that bees in england are vanishing faster than anywhere else in europe. let's take a look at the travel situation now. 0n the 0verg round: there is no service between willesden junction and camden road and clapham junction. with severe delays on the rest of the route. 0nto the roads and the m25 is closed anticlockwise betweenjunction 28 at the brook street roundabout and j27 following a serious

collision last night. the motorway will be closed into rush hour. queues from j29 a127. diverison via a12, a406 north circular and the m11 — expect delays> in the west end: maddox street is closed because of a gas leak — it will be closed until friday. and in acton: coronation road is closed because of a fire. now the weather with georgina burnett. good morning. well, we have a good deal of dry weather around this week and some sunny spells but not necessarily to start off today. there is a bit of mist and fog around and even some light rain and drizzle but that should all clear to give a super deal of sunshine later on. it's a bit misty and murky the start of the day but as lifts, we see sunshine emerging and stake of the many of us. temperatures today in the sunshine, we could get to 22, possibly 23 celsius would just a light southerly wind. 0vernight, clear spells, and more on the way building. still very mild, temperatures between nine and 11

celsius. it's a bit of a misty start and tomorrow. seeing this cloud approaching from the north—west. ringing with it a bit of light rain and drizzle some of us, not affecting everyone and that further south—east you are, the more chance you have for sunshine tomorrow. temperatures of about 18 or 19 degrees. a little cooler than today but still well above average for the time of yearand but still well above average for the time of year and we continue in that vein for much of the week. there is not too much in the way of wet weather. more sunny spells, really. dry weather and temperatures in the high teens. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london newsroom in half an hour. you can of course get updates on our website at the usual address. now it's back to dan and louise. bye for now. good morning. welcome to breakfast, with louise minchin and dan walker. we'll bring you all the latest news and sport in a moment, but also on breakfast this morning: lizzy yarnold, britain's

greatest winter 0lympian, has announced her retirement. she'll be here just after 8am to look back on her amazing success in the skeleton and tell us what she plans to do next. stephen hawking took on some of the universe's biggest questions during his distinguished life and career, and as his final book is published today, we'll be chatting to two of his children, lucy and tim. perux pelloux there. these are just some of the hundreds of photographs that have been pouring into the blue peter office all this week —— hello there. and from milk bottle tops to sticky back plastic, blue peter. we'll be joined by former presenters lesleyjudd and peter duncan. good morning, here's a summary of today's main stories from bbc news: so many classic moments of those many 60 years as well. do you remember duncan dares, the spin—off

show? brilliant. theresa may will brief her cabinet this morning on the deadlock in the brexit negotiations. senior ministers voiced concerns about her proposals during a meeting over pizza last night. they're worried about the so—called northern ireland backstop, which is designed to prevent a hard border in ireland. they want it to have a definite end date, to prevent the uk following eu customs rules indefinitely. a further delay to the rollout of universal credit is being planned, according to leaked documents seen by the bbc. the department for work and pensions says it always intended a slow roll—out, and it wouldn't comment on leaks. it's also thought that there are plans to spend hundreds of millions of pounds, to ease the hardship when claimants are moved onto the system. the problem we have is that it's the coming together of a big benefit change, with large welfare cuts at the same time, that is making this toxic. the government should, as a priority, both improve the operation of universal credit

but also reserves the might reverse some of those cuts that are making the political rollout of this benefit so difficult. president trump has said he is aware of unconfirmed reports that saudi arabia is preparing to say that the missing journalist, jamal khashoggi, died during an unauthorised interrogation at its consulate in turkey. 0fficials investigating the disappearance of the prominent saudi critic have been searching the building in istanbul. the us secretary of state mike pompeo is flying to saudi arabia for a meeting with the country's leadership. 0ffences motivated by prejudice against men could become hate crimes as part of a government review. figures released today are expected to show a spike in hate crime in england and wales. ministers say they want to make sure all vulnerable groups are protected in court, and are also looking to include misogyny and ageism. the consumer group which? says parents should stop using one of three market—leading child stair gates after it failed the firm's safety tests. which? tested ten gates to see how they would withstand being pulled by a child.

it says the dream baby gate should be immediately recalled. dream baby said complaints about its products are rare but are investigated immediately. the co—founder of microsoft, paul allen, has died. he was 65 and had blood cancer. he persuaded his childhood friend, bill gates, to drop out of harvard to start the computer giant in 1975. mr gates said he was heartbroken at the loss of one of his oldest and dearest friends. facebook has brought in new rules for political advertising on the social network in the uk. from now on, anyone running a political advert will have to prove their identity, and say who has paid for it. this system is already in operation in the united states and brazil. the duke and duchess of sussex have been given their first baby present. they were presented with a toy kangaroo as they met australia's governor—general on the first day of their tour of the country. the first of many! let's speak to our correspondent,

hywel griffith, who's with the royal couple in sydney. you're not with them right now but you have been seeing them! extraordinary to have this news on a royal talk, how is it going down? remarkably well. —— tour. there's generally warmth and affection for the young royals. all the polls suggest that being a republic is the dominant view here. prince harry, being hands—on, going into the crowd to shake hands and there were plenty to see them today. the opera house over there, well over 1000 waiting, some four hours, to get a glimpse and a selfie and in amongst them, young and old, was one lady, 98—year—old daphne dunne, who wa nted lady, 98—year—old daphne dunne, who wanted her third encounter with the prince. she met him in 2015, again

in 2017, she met him in her wheelchair outside the opera house. the call over his wife to introduce meghan to daphne dunne and she handed over presence and wished them well, particularly to the baby and even at the end of day one of the 16 day tour, they've probably got a caseload of toy, les, kangaroos and even a caseload of toy, les, kangaroos and evena pairof caseload of toy, les, kangaroos and even a pair of boots for the collection. what a lovely hug -- caseload of toy koalas. thank you for the incredibly warm welcome and the chance to meet so many aussies from all walks of life. we also genuinely couldn't think of a better place to announce the upcoming baby, be it a boy ora girl, so thank you very, very much. thank you is from harries stoppila sunzu about the rest of the

worldtour what's going on —— thank yous from harry. what about the rest of the world tour? they are off 200 tomorrow, that's been in the headlines because of the ongoing drought. —— 200. then to melbourne and back to sydney for the invictus games on a centrepiece for the whole visit —— to dubbo —— invictus games which is a centrepiece for the whole visit. i hope they have left room for the baby toys and presence they will be leading with. this would have made the headlines in australia anyway, but this will be bringing a whole lot more pressure to the royal couple —— presents —— leaving with. we're not sure whether their itinerary has been adapted because of the pregnancy. we know prince harry later this week will be

climbing sydney harbour bridge in the company of scott morrison, the australian prime minister. meghan not doing thatjourney with him, i don't know if there are any health and safety concerns their. some discussion about the g and tonga and the possibility of zika virus —— there —— fiji and tonga. we're told that will continue as planned. australia has this ongoing debate about the relationship with the royals, the question of republic has been deferred but when prince harry is here you can see they are genuinely popular. their wedding got 4 million viewers in australia. so as celebrities, there are plenty of people that want that selby with them. what a lovely view as well. i have to comment on that as well —— selfie with them. do you think that was a hastily arranged press conference from prison, prince harry? i love the fact he referred to it as the upcoming baby —— from prince harry. he didn't know how to say it,

did he? if you're not a dad yet... the upcoming... baby. shall i do some upcoming sport?|j the upcoming... baby. shall i do some upcoming sport? i might do some on the upcoming baby for the next few months. raheem sterling, what a performance last night, what a performance last night, what a performance from all of them, particularly in the first half. england beat spain 3—2 at the end and. a bit nervy at the end. 3-0 at half—time and... —— 32 at the end. -- 3-2. england win 3—2, sterling ends run of 3 years and 27 games without a goal... what a night it was for england in seville, winning in spain for the first time in 31 years, but northern ireland are bottom of their group after another defeat. austin halewood rounds up the action. the waistcoat may have gone, but the celebrations stayed the same. southgate the one once again. after an english masterclass in seville... well, in the first half at least. after a disappointing world cup, spain are 18 reborn under new boss luis enrique, but their early optimism extinguished by manchester

magic. united's marcus rashford combining beautifully with city's raheem sterling. and itjust kept getting better. rashford was the next to beat his club teammate david de gea... before a third in the first half. harry kane the creator, sterling again the finish. england in uncharted waters. spain in total shock. alcacer pulled one back for the hosts. but southgate's men weathered the storm, despite sergio ramos scoring with the last play of the game. england holding on for their first victory the game. england holding on for theirfirst victory in the game. england holding on for their first victory in spain since 1987... just. meanwhile, failure to make the most of their chances cost northern ireland against bosnia herzegovina. an edin dzeko double condemning them toa an edin dzeko double condemning them to a third nations league defeat in sarajevo. austin halewood, bbc news. england rugby union head coach eddiejones has a problem on his hands, his top three choices

in the number eight position are unavailable and he names his squad for the autumn internationals in two days' time. saracens billy vunipola is the latest casualty. he'll have surgery today after breaking his left arm against glasgow on sunday. it's the third time in a year he's broken an arm. and more injury news, nile wilson will miss this month's world gymnastics championships in qatar. i don't know if you want to watch this if you're feeling squeamish. he has 0k, everybody. what has he done? he snapped finger ligaments in training on the parallel bars. is that it? are you disappointed? i thought it was going to be a bit more horrendous. that was the moment. a bit of a debate about whether we should share this with you this morning but it was his finger ligaments going. the ways didn't like that. sorry, i'll tell you at the end about a gymnastics injury -- you at the end about a gymnastics injury —— louise didn't like that.

i'm not sure i want to know. watch out for that, everybody! i'm not sure i want to know. watch out forthat, everybody! he i'm not sure i want to know. watch out for that, everybody! he is still keen on securing a place at tokyo 2020. we're not going to hearfrom him. you've ruined his moment, or maybe i have! britain's greatest winter 0lympian, lizzie yarnold, is retiring from skeleton. she won gold at the last two winter games, making her the most successful athlete in her event. she said it had been an amazing ten years but it was time for a new chapter, and we'll be hearing from her after 8am. that was one of the debates we had before going on this morning, talking about nile and his finger. here's the next one, what kind of language should we use for this? ronnie 0'sullivan has been making headlines again, this time for his comments about the venue for the english 0pen snooker. after winning his first—round match, he described the leisure centre in crawley as a hellhole with no atmosphere, and it smelt of urine. that's my hometown! ronnie, what are you saying!

world snooker said they were surprised by his comments and feedback from other players had been positive. i've heard the clip of him and there's no messing around. it smells. me and romesh ranganathan, we are boys from crawley. i'm sure there are areas of every count that smell of urine. leisure centres are funny places. it's six months since england won netball gold at the commonwealth games. but that last—second goal, stunning the world champions australia in their own back yard, created more than great memories. a survey on behalf of england netball shows more than 130,000 women have taken up the sport, or play it more often, since the games. this is a brilliant story. watch these pictures. the thai football team who were rescued from a partially flooded cave injuly have been surprised by one of their heroes. the 12 boys and their coach were appearing on the ellen degeneres show when zlatan ibrahimovic stepped out to meet them. they'd just told ellen

that he was their idol. that's lovely, isn't it? this team is more braver than me and they showed their collective teamwork and they had patients, faith and believe in other hands also. this is probably the best team in the world. this is probably the best team in the world. so sweet, isn't it? white you don't often hear zlatan talking about people in those terms other than himself! i've got a story about a gymnast from japan. do i want to hear this? japanese gymnast at the montreal olympics in the 705. he injured his leg, hi5 montreal olympics in the 705. he injured his leg, his knee, during a vault, he didn't tell anyone, injured his leg, his knee, during a vault, he didn't tellanyone, he continued and got eventually to the ring5, hi5 5peciali5t event and despite the fact he had a fractured

kneecap and a desolate gated kneecap, he landed perfectly and then collapsed in a heap —— dislocated kneecap. he got a perfect 5core. because of that perfect 5core, 5core. because of that perfect score, with the injury, japan got the gold over ru55ia at that time in the gold over ru55ia at that time in the smallest margin in olympic hi5tory. taking one for the team! landed it perfectly, the kneecap cracked, look him up on the internet, shun fujimoto. he was a5kedif internet, shun fujimoto. he was asked if he would do it again and he 5aid asked if he would do it again and he said no. incredible what adrenaline can do. team effort, that's what it can do. team effort, that's what it can do. team effort, that's what it can do for you! a very 6:45, the headlines: theresa may will try to rally ministers behind her brexit plans this morning. last night senior ministers voiced concerns about her proposals, during a meeting over pizza. the duke and duchess of sussex have begun their tour of australia in sydney as news of meghan's pregnancy made headlines across the globe. agate to come home with all sorts of

ones. today, matt is in little venice. good morning. yes, good morning to you. we are down by the canal. this is where regions can now meets. the reason we are here is the canal rivers trust is where we feed the ducks. we are getting into autumn and winter. they are asking us autumn and winter. they are asking us to lay off the bread. millions of loads are tipped into the canals and rivers. not only are they particularly great for ducks and swa ns particularly great for ducks and swans and the wildlife but also highly polluting as well and can

cause damage to the wildlife. something a little bit different, like some leftover vegetables. talking a bit more about that throughout the morning. predict on this morning. a bit of low cloud of others. if you take a look at the forecast today. quite misty and foggy across other parts of england and wales. showing down the journeys on some of the roads. a little bit of drizzle. we'll see skies brightened. whether fund pushing into the north and west. set to bring outbreaks of rain in scotland and northern ireland. already some heavy rain in the west of northern ireland. that will also push across scotla nd ireland. that will also push across scotland through the day as well. some sunshine at times. england and wales should cheer up. the best of the sunshine further south. the wind

‘s lightest further south and east you go. with lighter winds to the south, temperatures in the sunshine up south, temperatures in the sunshine up to around 23 degrees. still a few hints of summer out there this afternoon. into the night it pushes your way into southern and western areas. a slightly cooler nights in the nightjust gone. as we go into tomorrow, the south—east corner and much of the uk should be dry with some sunshine. if you're in south—west england, potentially south—east wales, parts of east anglia, a cloudy day few tomorrow. outbreaks of rain in drizzle. we could see something a bit heavy at times. temperatures down a touch on today's values. thursday will start

with maybe a touch of frost. but other than a few mist and fog patches. it should be a fine start. a bit ofa patches. it should be a fine start. a bit of a breeze in the final in scotland. a bit more breeze and a bit more cloud and that could bring one or two showers. temperatures close to where they should be per this time of year. a bit off where some of you will see today. 23 celsius, still sing temperatures like that. we will see in about 25 minutes time. the chancellor will set out his plans for government spending and taxes in the budget later this month. according to some of westminster‘s most respected economists, he faces an even trickier task than usual this year. steph's here to tell us more. this is based on analysis done by the institute for fiscal studies — who are believed to be an independent and impartial team of economists whose job it is to pick through government finances. they have credibility

with politicians — former prime minister david cameron described them as ‘gold standard'. so what they say matters. what they're saying is that it's going to be very hard to make let's look at them. the government has said it will increase nhs funding, money for the armed forced and foreign aid. on top of that the prime minister had this to say at the conservative party conference a few weeks ago. debt as a sharing of the economy will go down. support the public services will go up. a decade after the financial crash, people need to know that the austerity of the two is over. and that there are hard work has paid off. what is ending

austerity mean? it means we don't have public sector cuts. rather than taking money away, it means we are seeing an increased rise in the cost of prices. that's what ending austerity means. in terms of how much this actually costs, the institute of fiscal studies says it adds up to £19 billion a year by the year 2022, 2000 23. to that perspective, that is twice what the government spends on running police services in england and wales. it is a lot of money. that is an annual figure. that means the uk borrows money but have also said they want to bring out this deficit, the difference between what they spend and what they get in from taxes. they want to get rid of that. he doesn't want to do that, he doesn't

wa nt to doesn't want to do that, he doesn't want to borrow more. taxes go up. one of the analysis done by the iss is that there would have to be a 1% increase to income tax and national insurance and vat in order to raise enough money to be able to do that. that would then mean that our taxes are the highest level the second world war. institute for fiscal studies saying, if they want which evil these things, they can do that with tax rises and that will take us toa with tax rises and that will take us to a very high tax level. what government actually say in? we spoke to the treasury and unsurprisingly they said they could not tell us much before the budget. it's often in the lead up to it. what they did say was the aim was to pay down the national debt to support public services and keep taxes as low as possible and what they point out, the reason they are going to do

this, scrapping the public sector pay and give extra funding for the nhs and they provided them for example sister how they will be ending austerity which sounds like they were looking at ending austerity on some, not all. we will find that when the budget happens in a couple of weeks time. that is a brilliant explainer. thank you very much indeed. it can get really pop ca rd much indeed. it can get really pop card —— it can get really confiscated. so many numbers being thrown around. she is the most successful british winter olympian of all time, winning back—to—back gold medals. but after a decade of hurtling face—first down a skeleton track at 90 miles an hour, lizzy yarnold has announced her retirement. she's won every major title in her sport and has decided that now is the right time to focus on a new challenge — as our sports reporter joe wilson went to find out. at maidstone grammar school for girls, they were expecting a former pupil. click! lizzy yarnold's

skeleton gold medals in 2014 and 28 kingmaker britain's best ever winter olympian. she goes to the front, and how! now it's over. it has been an amazing ten years of my life and i'd be lucky enough i guess to learn from amazing coaches and be part of this team. it was neverjust me by myself so i guess i'm able to take the opportunity to thank everyone for helping me achieve my dreams. the opportunity to thank everyone for helping me achieve my dream5.|j for helping me achieve my dreams.” wonder though, how you ever replace that adrenaline rush. i'm hoping to just stop unrest, i guess. experiences will now be challenged —— channelled into this kind of thing, talking to young people.” loved just simply trying to see what i could achieve. coming back to my school and it really brings back the memory that even at that point, i didn't know i was going to be a

skeleton athletes. you might be able to get that dream as a musician or chef. i don't mind if people do sport or not, i would like to encourage people to follow their own dream. while the girls here in them pe class are doing their gcses and thinking about careers, what about heading nigel miles —— 90 mph down an ice chute on something about 18 inches wide? it would be fun to try that it would be a bit scary is not sure i could actually get myself together to do that.” sure i could actually get myself together to do that. i think sport really does teach you that failure i5n't really does teach you that failure isn't always a bad thing. it shows you that anyone can do anything and 5he 5ing5 really down—to—earth. lizzy yarnold will promote the winter olympics and urges funding to find for champions. after back operations, she will be sticking to yoga. joe wilson, bbc news, in kent. she is great, isn't she? she is fantastic, she is brave, she is an

amazing athlete. and she will be here later. ten years in the sport and she will be here at ten past eight this morning. it's seven years on since the norwegian terror attack and a film looking at what happened on the island of utoya where 69 people lost their lives. 33 injured on the same day. we will be speaking toa on the same day. we will be speaking to a woman who was on the island that day and the filmmaker is well and they decided to make the film concentrating not on what anders breivik did but the people on the island that day. it is harrowing but she is delighted to be part of it. and it is filmed in real time, 72 minutes. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london news,

i'm charlotte franks. five teenagers who were said to be on a mission to do violence have been jailed for fatally stabbing a man in an unprovoked attack as he returned home from meeting his pregnant partner. daniel frederick, a stranger to his killers, was knifed repeatedly by the group just yards from his home in hackney. three teenagers were convicted of murder while another two were found guilty of manslaughter. an online fundraising platform has announced it will scrap fees for campaigns set up in response to major disasters and incidents. it's following criticism from the mp for bermondsey neil coyle, who claimed justgiving had profited from £500,000 of public donations, including money raised for grenfell tower residents and victims of the london bridge attack. the university of reading is backing a project to help save the declining bee population which experts say is threatening hundreds of billions of pounds in food production.

the world bee project will help paint the first ever picture of the state of bees. figures suggest that bees in england are vanishing faster than anywhere else in europe. let's take a look at the travel situation now. on the overg round: there are severe delays between stratford and richmond and clapham junction. and minor delays between barking and gospel oak. onto the roads and the m25 is closed anticlockwise betweenjunction 28 at the brook street roundabout and j27 following a serious collision last night. the motorway will be closed into rush hour. queues from j29 a127. diverison via a12, a406 north circular and the m11 — expect delays. in the west end: maddox street is closed because of a gas leak. and in acton: coronation road is closed because of a fire. now the weather with georgina burnett. good morning. well, we have a good deal of dry weather around this week and some sunny spells as well but not necessarily to start off today.

there is a bit of mist and fog around and even some light rain and drizzle for some but that should all clear and drizzle for some but that should all clear to give us all a good deal of sunshine later on. it's a bit misty and murky the start of the day but as lifts, we see sunshine emerging and staying put for many of us. temperatures today in the sunshine, we could get to 22, or possibly 23 degrees celsius with just a light southerly wind. overnight, we have clear spells, and more on the way building. as this front pushes its way south—eastwards. still very mild, temperatures between nine and 11 celsius. it's a bit of a misty start and tomorrow. seeing this cloud approaching from the north—west. and binging with it a bit of light rain and drizzle for some of us, not affecting everyone and the further south—east you are, actually, the more chance you have for sunshine tomorrow. temperatures getting up to about 18 or 19 degrees. a little cooler than today but still well above average for the time of year. and we continue in that vein for much of the week. there is not too much in the way of wet weather.

more sunny spells, really. a lot of dry weather and temperatures in the high teens. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london newsroom in half an hour. you can of course get updates on our website at the usual address. bye for now. good morning. welcome to breakfast, with louise minchin and dan walker. our headlines today: a crucial 48 hours as theresa may tries to save her brexit plan. the prime minister meets her cabinet this morning before heading to brussels to try to break the deadlock. as the duke and duchess of sussex confirm

they'll be parents in the spring, australians welcome the news with a few special gifts. good morning. an extra £19 billion a year will have to be found by the government if it's to uphold the promise that austerity is over, that's according to a major report out today. i'll the details. —— i'll have the details. sterling is stunning in seville, as england win in spain for the first time in over 30 years. a slight problem... from misbehaving elephants to sticky—back plastic and jumping out of planes, blue peter turns 60. i'm in little venice in central london with news of a foggy start for england and wales, but brightening up later. but rain on the way for scotland and northern ireland. join me for the full forecast on breakfast. it's tuesday the 16th of october. good morning. our top story:

in the next few hours, theresa may will brief her cabinet on the deadlock in the brexit negotiations. senior ministers voiced concerns about her proposals during a meeting over pizza last night. here's our political correspondent nick eardley. how to guarantee no hard border in ireland after brexit? still the key stumbling block to a deal with europe. the prime minister is offering an insurance policy which could see the uk follow europe's customs rules for a period. theresa may's playing down the idea that could end up being a long—term arrangement, but some want guarantees there would be a strict time limit. the brexit secratary, dominic raab, and the foreign secretary, jeremy hunt, were among eight ministers who met last night over pizza. they discussed the need for an end date to a customs deal, an issue that's likely to come up again this morning at the cabinet table. the stakes are high. the pm will be hoping she can maintain a sense of unity in government today, because tomorrow, an even bigger challenge as she heads to brussels to try and persuade other european leaders a breakthrough is possible.

nick eardley, bbc news. political correspondent leila nathoo is in westminster. macro a two, yesterday we were saying it's a crucial week and now we're saying it's a crucial 24 hours ash leila. after months of buildup, it seems this is a really important to days —— leila. it seems this is a really important to days -- leila. there's a sense things are coming to a head. we had talks faltering over the weekend, there was a last—minute rush from dominic raab in brussels only to come away with no outline of an agreement and theresa may this morning has to win over cabinet ministers. we have a group meeting ahead of that meeting tonight. last night they met over pizza, this will be concerning for theresa may that at least a third of her cabinet were meeting to game plan ahead of the wider get—together. she's been struggling to keep her top team on side for her brexit strategy and

that's crucial because she needs backing for her deal both in brussels and any deal that comes back to westminster. looking at the reception in the commons yesterday, hostility from both sides, different camps with different gripes about her brexit strategy so i think winning overheard the top team this morning will be theresa may's first hurdle before she goes to brussels tomorrow. leila, thanks very much. speak to you later tomorrow. —— later on. a further delay to the rollout of universal credit is being planned, according to leaked documents seen by the bbc. it's also suggested that there are plans to spend hundreds of millions of pounds, to ease the hardship when claimants are moved onto the system. here's social affairs correspondent michael buchanan. it was meant to make things easier, bringing six different benefits into one monthly payment. but the rollout of universal credit is already years behind schedule, and now we've learned it's going to be further delayed. the next step, moving up to four million benefit recipients onto universal credit want now properly start

until november, 2020. more than a year later than planned. in the commons yesterday, the secretary of state hinted at such a delay. it won't be starting injanuary in 2019, it will be later on in the year, and then for a further year, with a small amount of people, maybe 10,000 people, we will be learning as we go to make sure it is right, and then it will increase in the rollout from 2020 onwards. leaked documents we've seen suggest that ministers want to use the delay to make significant changes to universal credit, amid evidence the use of food banks increases when the benefit is introduced in an area. the dwp hope to continue paying some benefits to claimants for an extra fortnight. most existing benefits are currently stopped when someone applies for universal credit. reduce the maximum reductions that can be taken from a universal credit payment and make it easier for self—employed people to receive the new benefit. paying for the changes, which would cost hundreds of millions of pounds,

still needs to be approved by the treasury. the problem we have is that it's the coming together of a big benefit change, with large welfare cuts at the same time, that is making this toxic. the government should, as a priority, both improve the operation of universal credit but also reserves the might reverse some of those cuts that are making the political rollout of this benefit so difficult. but tentative plans to also continue paying child tax credits for a fortnight, crucial to single parents in particular, have seemingly been scrapped because they were deemed undeliverable because of the way universal credit operates. the department for work and pensions said it didn't comment on leaks. michael buchanan, bbc news. the duke and duchess of sussex have been on their first public outing since it was revealed that they are due to become parents. the couple are in australia for their debut overseas tour, and let's speak to our correspondent hywel griffith, who's in sydney, he has quite a view behind him in sydney. good morning, but not for

you, quite a time already and already so many gifts for the baby? welcome to my office, by the way, in sydney. end of day one of the tour and they've accumulated a couple of suitcases' full of baby gifts for the nursery, cuddly koala is, kangaroos and a tiny pair of boots. it's fair to say australia has enjoyed having the young royals, especially with their news —— cuddly koalas. prince harry recently thanked australians, talked about the invictus game is, and said while he's been to australia many times before, he's enjoyed bringing his wife here and sharing the news with the australians. thank you for the incredibly warm welcome and the chance to meet so many au55ie5 from all walks of life. and we also genuinely couldn't think ofa and we also genuinely couldn't think of a better place to announce the

upcoming baby, be it a boy ora girl, so thank you very, very much. the upcoming baby, i think he's going to have to improve on that presentation style. but there's another 15 days of this to go, so he'll get plenty of opportunities. tomorrow there are of two drought—stricken new south wales, dubbo, then back to melbourne —— there of two drought—stricken new south wales, dubbo, then melbourne and back to new south wales for the invictus games —— they are off to drought—stricken new south wales. president trump has said he is aware of unconfirmed reports that saudi arabia is preparing to say that the missing journalist, jamal khashoggi, died during an unauthorised interrogation at its consulate in turkey. officials investigating the disappearance of the prominent saudi critic have been searching the building in istanbul. the us secretary of state mike pompeo is flying to saudi arabia for a meeting with the country's leadership. offences motivated by prejudice against men

could become hate crimes as part of a government review. figures released today are expected to show a spike in hate crime in england and wales. ministers say they want to make sure all vulnerable groups are protected in court, and are also looking to include misogyny and ageism. the consumer group which? says parents should stop using one of three market—leading child stair gates after it failed the firm's safety tests. which? tested ten gates, to see how they would withstand being pulled by a child. it says the dream baby gate should be immediately recalled. dream baby said complaints about its products are ‘rare' but are investigated immediately. facebook has brought in new rules for political advertising on the social network in the uk. from now on anyone running a political advert will have to prove their identity, and say who has paid for it. this system is already in operation in the united states and brazil. the rap star kanye west, now known as ye, has dropped in on another world leader, this time he and his wife

kim kardashian have been meeting uganda's president. the meeting was aimed at promoting tourism in east africa, but seemed a bit more subdued in comparison to the rapper's chat with president trump a few days ago. the couple are in uganda to finish recording ye's ninth studio album. they gave the president a signed pair of the star's white trainers. in return, he gave them ugandan names. there you go! a nice meeting there. let's return to one of our top stories on breakfast at 7:10am. theresa may's called for cool, calm heads as she insists that a brexit deal is still possible despite differences with the eu. the biggest difference of all is how to avoid a hard irish border, otherwise known as the backstop option. here to talk us through it is kathryn simpson from manchester metropolitan university, who specialises in irish politics and brexit. good morning, thank you so much for

joining us. we're going to try... we use all this language all the time, sometimes it's good to take a step back and say what does it mean. first of all, what is a brexit backstop? yes, they're brexit backstop, at the moment, goods and people can move freely between the republic of ireland and northern ireland. you don't have to show your passport and goods have few, if any, restrictions on them. the backstop is essentially a position of last resort. really what this is saying is that things won't change, and both sides have said they don't want a hard border between the republic of ireland and northern ireland because of the belfast agreement, or the good friday agreement, and that preservation of peace between the two countries. currently there's this dispute over the legal text of exactly what the backstop should say, so what does the eu actually

wa nt say, so what does the eu actually want about that? what the eu wanted was to keep... suggested that northern ireland should stay in parts of the eu customs union and parts of the eu customs union and parts of the single market. so there'll be no customs checks between, say, goods going between belfast and dublin. this was actually agreed by the eu and the uk government in december last year. 0k, government in december last year. ok, so what's the problem? the problem is at the moment the uk rejects this because that would, in effect, split up the country. it would really create kind of a constitutional berlin wall but in the sea between great britain and northern ireland. 0k, the sea between great britain and northern ireland. ok, so uk not particularly happy with that. so what's the suggestion from that point forward? so they're working on a compromise that would essentially keep northern ireland... would treat northern ireland slightly differently for a while. so this is like having an insurance policy that doesn't have a sell by date, and really this would mean that there

would be some checks between both the uk and great britain with regards to things like product standards. thank you. and who has a problem with that? so the problem with that is the dup. so the dup, the government's allies at the moment in westminster, really don't like that. secondly as well, it's not just northern ireland like that. secondly as well, it's notjust northern ireland but the whole of the uk would remain in a temporary customs union arrangement with the eu as well. and, again, thatis with the eu as well. and, again, that is seen as unpalatable, it's seen as a difference between northern ireland and the uk as well. so the dup present one challenge, what about conservative mps? what do they think about this? again, many tory mps don't like this either because they see it as the uk not being allowed to strike new trade deals moving forward as brexit progresses. but it would only be temporary? yes, it would only be

temporary. this is why people say why would you take an insurance policy out that has a sell by date, no one would want to do that. really they want a temporary arrangement, they want a temporary arrangement, the eu wombat, that would have a precise date because otherwise this could go on and on and on and the eu inherently rejects that —— want that. these are the different manifestations. theresa may, the eu, the dup, so many different parties except truck involved in all of this, what is the likelihood of getting a deal? this is very complex —— etc. we knew the negotiations would be inherently complex and we knew this week was going to be a crucial week for grexit, because technically this is when we would have wa nted technically this is when we would have wanted both the uk and the european union... a final deal on that brexit withdrawal agreement —— brexit. the politics of this within westminster, the dup, the divisions

within the conservative party are making this deal very, very difficult to actually achieve. what do you think... and i know it's hard to predict this, let's say there's no deal, what happens in ireland? does anyone know? this is a really, really valid point and i think the likelihood of a no deal scenario has certainly increased over the last several days, certainly since sunday. the next 48 hours are really, really crucial. one of the sticking points of getting an agreement is the fact there's no ha rd agreement is the fact there's no hard border ireland and the republic of ireland —— and northern ireland. this and aria of a no deal hasn't been discussed, will we see a harder border? it is difficult to see what would happen in a no deal scenario that would be different to the backstop scenario. thanks very much. i've been listening to the podcast, brexitcast. it's really good. if you wa nt to brexitcast. it's really good. if you want to know about the intricacies and the different movements, chris

mason, who presents with us on this programme, is often on it. they mention, when we originally talked about brexit, it was almost 5aid talked about brexit, it was almost said the irish problem wouldn't be an issue, it would be sorted but now it'5 an issue, it would be sorted but now it's a key 5ticking an issue, it would be sorted but now it's a key sticking point. it was a lwa ys it's a key sticking point. it was always going to be eight he element to brexit because it is so complex, and it's not just to brexit because it is so complex, and it's notjust about economics but also politics. -- a key element. thank you very much. days and days of detailed negotiation at the head. at is in little bonus for us this morning and the lesson as to why we should not feed ducks, and the sun is up. yes, daylight is with us. a little oasis of calm. being by water and ca nals oasis of calm. being by water and canals is good for our well—being. if you want to head down to your local canal or river. maybe think twice about what you pack a lunch box. we all know that bread is not

particularly good. it's also that the environment down here. that leads to access algae growth and lots of disease and pests including rats. —— the preferred ducks and swa ns, rats. —— the preferred ducks and swans, something in a form of the veg and oats and cooked rice. look again before you head on down. even though it's a bit grey here. let's ta ke though it's a bit grey here. let's take a look at the forecast. it's not particularly misty. other parts of england and wales, you may be struggling on your morning commute. lots of mist and fog around. there is just so damp after the recent rain. dry, a little spotted drizzle. the west and wettest conditions will be across the west of northern ireland in the north of most of scotland. with it, the isobars tightening on the chart. we could

see wins in scotland. pushing across northern ireland in the morning, some heavy bursts of rain. by the end of the afternoon, we could see a few splashes of rain. much of england and wales could stay dry. lightening up as well. some sunshine breaking through here and there. and once you get that sunshine, but got lighter winds towards the south and east. more like the wind —— the midteens. it is not, we'll see that area of cloud and patchy rain. to the south—east of that, it stays dry. clear skies to the north. it could lead to a few mist and fog patches. temperatures in a few areas down into single figures. nothing to chile to take this into tomorrow.

even though it will be a bit cooler than today. will have that front almost stranded across parts of south—west england's. that will bring some occasional rain in drizzle. either side of it, a lot of dry weather. temperatures down on today's values. it will lead to a cooler night. as a ridge of high pressure builds in, it should be a fine day for most. the chill will lift out of the atmosphere and we will see some good sunny spells. a bit breezy northern scotland. temperatures roundabout 12— 16 degrees. that is how it is looking. a little handy tip. did you know that in recent taste tests, ducks prefer kale. kale? yes, they have high tastes. i'm not sure i got any

spare kale. let's take a look at papers this morning. one story dominates the front pages, reaction to the news the duke and duchess of sussex are expecting a baby. it takes up all of the daily mail's front page. it quotes a source close to the couple, who claims prince harry is an "emotional wreck, but in a good way". the daily mirror says kensington palace sought medical advice for meghan as she embarks on a tour with prince harry. they will go to visit fiji and tonga. pregnant women have been advised not to go to the countries due to concerns about the zika virus. and our former colleague, bill turnbull also features. he's been talking about how going public with his diagnosis for prostate cancer last year has helped save lives. the daily express claims "victory" for its campaign respect for the elderly, as the government considers whether offences motivated by ageism should be considered hate crimes. the picture at the top shows the tv host, ant mcpartlin and his estranged wife, lisa who are due to be divorced today. one of the stories that is not in

many of the papers but it's all over social media. the co—founder of microsoft has died. you can tell is a bit more about paul allen. microsoft has died. you can tell is a bit more about paulallen. he is the lesser known of the founders of microsoft. everyone is bill gates that paul allen is also the brains behind microsoft. he died of cancer at the age of 65. it is a fascinating story, they met at school, teenagers, they loved recording and anything to do with technology, they were desperate to learn and very competitive and they have this dream of running a business one day to do with technology and bill gates has actually said, if it wasn't for paul, in personal computers would never have existed because he was

the technical brains behind the operation who really push them. and eventually pushed bill gates to leave harvard survey could set up the business. it then went on to make them the richest men in the world. they were billionaires in their 30s and they have both been generous with their money. it is estimated more than $2 billion to good causes. he also threw some cracking parties, iam good causes. he also threw some cracking parties, i am told. there was a man who had a superyacht worth £125 million, equipped with all manner of things. lots of places to party. he loved to invite rock stars and the like. he spent a lot of time with musicians. he bought up some american sports teams and was a man who was very american sports teams and was a man who was very generous american sports teams and was a man who was very generous to charities but also enjoyed a good time. he didn't marry anybody or have any

children. i know he said previously, he had cancer before, he recovered from that but then got in again and said that he was going to donate his money to charities so you can imagine, ithink money to charities so you can imagine, i think is worth something like $15 billion. it's a staggering amount of money butjust to think. we wouldn't have had the creation of microsoft. they were going to call it allen & gates originally but they thought it sounded too boring, like a law firm. that's great. thank you very much. self—harm is an issue that's normally associated with teenagers and young adults but there are concerns that it goes largely unnoticed in the over—65s. that's the conclusion of new research published in the lancet this morning. the doctor behind it has told breakfast that the issue deserves more attention, as john maguire reports. for more than 20 years, jane used to hurt herself deliberately. i was raped when i was much younger and i almost learned to be a robot where emotion was concerned.

i used to bruise myself, mainly on my arms, and then after a while, people started to notice that i'd got quite a lot of bruises. self—harm comes in many forms. now, both online and in person, jane helps others in a similar position through her self—help self—harm group. we've had people come to the group where they've even been to proper therapy places and they've been told, "stop doing it, it's silly." and when you're sort of in your 50s and 60s, to be told you're silly, i think straightaway that makes them not want to reach out. in the first study of its kind, researchers from keele and manchester universities found that 90% of over—65s who self—harm and, crucially, warning signs are being missed. self—harm is a risk factor for suicide across the age range but in this study, self—harm in all the people was associated but in this study, self—harm

in older people was associated with 145 times increased risk of subsequent death by suicide. to clinicians, service providers, service managers, that self—harm is a real opportunity to intervene. and psychologists say one of the reasons the group is at such a high risk is their reluctance to ask for help. younger people will talk about their difficulties and their distress using very different language in a very different way than older people do. older people, we know from the research, tend to go to their gp, talking about physical health problems rather than talking about distress or depression or anxiety, and we need to enable people to have those conversations. the government says more can be done. jackie doyle—price, the uk's first ministerfor suicide prevention, was appointed last week with an objective to ensure every part of the country has a prevention plan, backed by £25 million of extra funding.

mental health has a profile today like never before but still, there are many who suffer in silence and all to often take their own lives. john maguire, bbc news, manchester. if you have been affected by any of the issues raised, you can find details of organisations which offer advice and support on the bbc actionline website at bbc.co.uk/actionline. coming up this morning on breakfast. from empty yoghurt pots, to pictures of your pets — blue peter celebrates its 60th birthday today. we'll be joined by former presenters lesleyjudd and peter duncan. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london news, i'm charlotte franks. five teenagers who were said to be on a mission "to do violence"

have been jailed for fatally stabbing a man in an unprovoked attack. daniel frederick, a stranger to his killers was knifed repeatedly by the group just yards from his home in hackney. three teenagers were convicted of murder while another two were found guilty of manslaughter. an online fundraising platform has announced it will scrap fees for campaigns set up in response to major incidents and distasters. it's following criticism from the mp for bermondsey, neil coyle, who claimed justgiving had profited from £5000,000 of public donations, including money raised for grenfell tower residents and victims of the london bridge attack. the university of reading is backing a project to help save the declining bee population which experts say is threatening hundreds of billions of pounds in food production. the world bee project will help paint the first ever picture of the state of bees. figures suggest that bees in england are vanishing faster than anywhere else in europe.

let's take a look at the travel situation now. on the overg round: there are severe delays between stratford and richmond and clapham junction. and minor delays between barking and gospel oak. onto the roads and the m25 is closed anticlockwise betweenjunction 28 at the brook street roundabout and j27 following a serious collision last night. it'll be closed for thenext few hours and you can see on the camera traffic‘s at a standstill. in the west end: maddox street is closed because of a gas leak. and in acton: coronation road has re—opened after an earlier fire. now the weather with georgina burnett. good morning.

well, we have a good deal of dry weather around this week and some sunny spells but not necessarily to start off today. there is a bit of mist and fog around and even some light rain and drizzle but that should all clear to give us a good deal of sunshine later on. it's a bit misty and murky to start of the day but as lifts, we see sunshine emerging and stake of of sunshine later on. it's a bit misty and murky the start of the day but as lifts, we see sunshine emerging and staying put for many of us. temperatures today in the sunshine, we could get to 22, or possibly 23 degrees celsius with just a light southerly wind. overnight, we have clear spells, and more on the way building. still very mild, though — temperatures down to between 9 and 11 celsius. it's a bit of a misty start and tomorrow. see this cloud approaching from the north—west. and binging with it a bit of light rain and drizzle for some of us, not affecting everyone and the further south—east you are, actually, the more chance you have for sunshine tomorrow. temperatures getting up to about 18 or 19 degrees. a little cooler than today but still well above average for the time of year. and we continue in that vein for much of the week. there's not too much in the way of wet weather, though.

more sunny spells, really. a lot of dry weather and temperatures in the high teens. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london newsroom in half an hour. bye for now. good morning. welcome to breakfast, with louise minchin and dan walker. here's a summary of this morning's main stories from bbc news: theresa may will brief her cabinet this morning on the deadlock in the brexit negotiations. senior ministers voiced concerns about her proposals during a meeting over pizza last night. they're worried about the so—called northern ireland backstop, which is designed to prevent a hard border in ireland. they want it to have a definite end date to prevent the uk following eu customs rules indefinitely. a further delay to the rollout of universal credit is being planned, according to leaked documents seen by the bbc. the department for work and pensions says it always intended a slow roll—out, and it wouldn't comment on leaks. it's also thought that there are plans to spend hundreds of millions of pounds to ease the hardship when claimants

are moved onto the system. the duke and duchess of sussex have been on their first public outing since it was revealed that they are due to become parents. the couple are in australia for their first overseas tour, and have already been given their first baby presents. they were handed a toy kangaroo and a pair of booties as they met australia's governor—general. they will also visit new zealand, fiji and tonga on their 16—day trip. genuinely thank you for the incredibly warm welcome and the chance to meet so many aussies from all walks of life. and we also genuinely couldn't think of a better place to announce the upcoming baby, be ita place to announce the upcoming baby, be it a boy or place to announce the upcoming baby, be ita boy ora place to announce the upcoming baby, be it a boy or a girl, place to announce the upcoming baby, be ita boy ora girl, so place to announce the upcoming baby, be it a boy or a girl, so thank you very, very much. applause. president trump has said he is aware of unconfirmed reports that saudi arabia is preparing to say that the missing journalist, jamal khashoggi, died during an unauthorised interrogation at its consulate in turkey.

officials investigating the disappearance of the prominent saudi critic have been searching the building in istanbul. the us secretary of state mike pompeo is flying to saudi arabia for a meeting with the country's leadership. offences motivated by prejudice against men could become hate crimes as part of a government review. figures released today are expected to show a spike in hate crime in england and wales. ministers say they want to make sure all vulnerable groups are protected in court, and are also looking to include misogyny and ageism. the consumer group which? says parents should stop using one of three market—leading child stair gates after it failed the firm's safety tests. which? tested ten gates to see how they would withstand being pulled by a child. it says the dream baby retractable gate should be immediately recalled. dream baby said complaints about its products are rare but are investigated immediately. facebook has brought

in new rules for political advertising on the social network in the uk. from now on, anyone running a political advert will have to prove their identity, and say who has paid for it. this system is already in operation in the united states and brazil. you're right up to date with the latest news. matt will tell you what's happening with the weather this morning in 10 minutes' time. he's also telling us what you should feed ducks. kale is theirfavourite. up feed ducks. kale is theirfavourite. up until recently, kale was only used to decorate salad. now we're obsessed with putting it in smoothies. have you ever had a kale smoothie? thankfully never. it is quite nice, only if you put something else in it. chocolate? bananas, sugar? what a result for england last night. can we see rat him sterling literally flying, he's off the ground, i don't think you

can quite see it there —— raheem sterling. what a great game last night. a really high standard match. it didn't feel like the normal friendly or competitive qualifying match you get at this stage of the season. jamie carragher said on the tv la st season. jamie carragher said on the tv last night it felt like a really high—level champions league match, and it was. brilliant performance. england win 3—2, sterling ends run of three years and 27 games without a goal... what a night it was for england in seville, winning in spain for the first time in 31 years, but northern ireland are bottom of their group after another defeat. austin halewood rounds up the action. the waistcoat may have gone, but the celebrations stayed the same. southgate the one once again. after an english masterclass in seville... well, in the first half at least. after a disappointing world cup, spain are at team reborn under new boss luis enrique, but their early optimism extinguished

by manchester magic. united's marcus rashford combining beautifully with city's raheem sterling. and itjust kept getting better. rashford was the next to beat his club teammate, david de gea... before a third in the first half. harry kane the creator, sterling again the finisher. england in uncharted waters. spain in total shock. paco alcacer pulled one back for the hosts. but southgate's men weathered the storm, despite sergio ramos scoring with the last play of the game. england holding on for theirfirst victory in spain since 1987... just. meanwhile, failure to make the most of their chances cost northern ireland against bosnia herzegovina. an edin dzeko double condemning them to a third nations league defeat in sarajevo. austin halewood, bbc news. away from the football...

england rugby union head coach eddiejones has a problem on his hands his top three choices in the number eight position are unavailable and he names his squad for the autumn internationals in two days' time. saracens billy vunipola is the latest casualty. he'll have surgery today after breaking his left arm against glasgow on sunday. it's the third time in a year he's broken an arm. and more injury news, nile wilson will miss this month's world gymnastics championships in qatar. he snapped finger ligaments in training on the parallel bars. wilson has been troubled by injuries since winning olympic bronze in rio two years ago and it's fair to say he's devastated not to be going to doha. i'm sorry to dave, my personal coach, because i've done a lot of things in my career, and he's always been there. i'm so gutted for you and for mum, dad, lou was going to

fly out there. sorry i've ruined your holiday! really sad to see. he's very good on social media, though, isn't he? youtube, social media... you forget the impact it has on other people. he's obviously really upset about that. 15—year—old amelie morgan has won her third medal at the youth olympic games in buenos aires, winning bronze on the beam and then silver with an impressive floor routine. she'd already taken all—around silver. it rounds off an incredible year for morgan, who won five medals at the european junior championships two months ago, and she has her plans set out. i've got a bit of time off now to get back in that gym and work really hard, so i've got to get as much as ican hard, so i've got to get as much as i can done before next year starts and yeah... do you think about tokyo 2020, is that something you dream about, that you can make that team? it's definitely something i dream about in the back of my mind, it's

a lwa ys about in the back of my mind, it's always there, but it's a long way off macksville so i've just got to focus on the upcoming competitions. britain's greatest winter olympian, lizzie yarnold, is retiring from skeleton. she won gold at the last two winter games, making her the most successful athlete in her event. she said it had been an amazing 10 years but it was time for a new chapter, and we'll be hearing from her after 8am. the thai football team who were rescued from a partially flooded cave injuly have been surprised by one of their heroes. the 12 boys and their coach were appearing on the ellen degeneres show when zlatan ibrahimovic stepped out to meet them. they'd just told ellen that he was their idol. this team is more braver than me, and they showed their collective teamwork and they had patience, faith and believe in other hands also. this is probably the best team in the world. isn't that brilliant? and to hear

that from zlatan, the best team in the world, quite something. lovely. thanks, sally. hate crimes are defined as those which target a victim because of their personal characteristics such as race, religion or disability. a government review will now look at if those offences should be extended, across england and wales. in particular, it'll consider if prejudice against men and women should be included, as well as ageism. let's talk now to nazir afzal, a former chief crown prosecutor, and free speech campaigner jodie ginsberg, who's in our london newsroom. good morning to both of you. thank you forjoining us. nazir afzal, tell us first, do you think this is the right thing to do, expand what isa the right thing to do, expand what is a hate crime? certainly as far as the elderly are concerned, yes. there's evidence people have been targeted because their elderly, and longer sentences are appropriate in that case. misogyny is another area

where there's been trials, in nottingham and other parts of the country, showing a significant problem needs to be addressed. i'm not sure about miss sandri, hatred of men, i think we are all googling it, ican of men, i think we are all googling it, i can only think of a serial killer recently, but the commission will look at that and see whether there is a case for it to be a hate crime in the same way others are —— misandry. jodie, do you have concerns about the extensions was blue hate speech laws in any case are problem at a. tackling speech rarely deals with the underlying problems —— extensions? rarely deals with the underlying problems -- extensions? hate speech laws in any case are problematic. we talk about extending it to include misogyny. hate speech at the moment is being used willy—nilly, a blanket term to cover all sorts of things

andl term to cover all sorts of things and i see it most prevalent lead in the debate over the gender recognition act, for example, where women who have questions about the gender recognition act are accused of being transfer of big —— prevalent lead. a woman who put up the dictionary definition of a woman was accused of hate speech, that's not something we want the police and judiciary to be pursuing. but with ages, these are presumably designed to help protect people who are vulnerable. of course. all of these laws are designed to protect the vulnerable, but in practice that's not what happens and we already have a(of not what happens and we already have a ( of laws dealing with violence against community and a plethora of laws that deal with violence against women laws that deal with violence against women “— laws that deal with violence against women “ a pleasure laws that deal with violence against women —— a pleasure of laws. but those laws aren't being used effectively to support women —— a plethora of laws. with rape, one in

14 cases came to conviction for rape. we should tackle those crimes against women. it's disproportionately targeted against those groups rather than tackling speech. picking you up on those points, why are you convinced given whatjodie has said that this would help the legal process? she's right about the conviction rate and police need to do better on the crimes they have at their disposal, and we can talk about resources separately but theissue talk about resources separately but the issue around these types of crime is they often lead to more serious crime. to give you an example you might not be aware of, asa example you might not be aware of, as a 17—year—old, salman abedi attacked a young girl at school and six years later he blows up manchester arena and kills, as we all know, 17 women out of 22. he was ona all know, 17 women out of 22. he was on a path towards more serious crime against women and girls, starting as early as he did. if you're able to intervene as early as possible with those who abuse early, those who

demonstrate their misogyny, for example, then you're in a position to intervene. it's not mr serevi about criminalising, i don't want to think del macro people for what they think del macro people for what they think -- think del macro people for what they think —— it's not necessarily about criminalising, i don't want to criminalise people for what they think, only what they do. are their resources to do that? absolutely not. —— are there the resources to do that? you're going to have an issue here with the number of police officers. to investigate a serious crime like murder costs £1 million, but if you invest more earlier preventing people from going on that journey, then you will save money. jodie, on that point about preventing further crime, if i'm not hurting words in your mouth, by getting their early? the idea we can prevent future crimes by policing thought and expression is a

dangerous road to go down —— there early. are we talking about pursuing people for wolf—whistling and women, which has been suggested as an element considered as part of a hate crime, because potentially they might go on to beat their partner. that's an extremely dangerous path to go down, that we're starting to live bigoted speech or even ignorant speech with a propensity to commit violent criminal acts —— align. speech with a propensity to commit violent criminal acts -- align. is that what it's designed to do, police thought and expression? absolutely not. i don't care what people think, people are entitled to think what they want and they're allowed to say within limits what they believe, it's about where it causes harm. when you're on the street and you're attacked because of your race, religion or disability then the law says you should get an aggravated sentence. the same should be said about elderly people, and i think about misogyny too. i'm not

convinced, but the point is, we as asus id want to protect the most vulnerable and if we don't, and experience tells us when we didn't, you have stephen lawrence and killings of that nature and many others since. thankyou very much, nazir afzal, and jodie ginsberg, thanks for your time on breakfast. matt is out and about in little venice learning about the weather and also the fact that ducks like kale. they certainly do. we are indeed in little venice. not that far away from paddington. this is an oasis of calm near paddington. not bad for a commute. we are talking about ducks. the essential message from the canal and river trust is don't feed the

ducks bread. it's not particularly good for the environment. it promotes algae growth. it also encourages pests. there are more likely to see rats with soggy bread. they do like kale and leftover greens. you might be surprised. at sta ke a re greens. you might be surprised. at stake are the weather. it is quite grey and its stride. if you are heading out on to your commute. lots of mist and fog, particularly murky start to tuesday morning. different stories for parts in scotland. you will notice isobars typing. wind is strengthening, touching gale force. that weather front will bring some heavy rain across northern ireland. also a spell of rain to most across

scotland. some sunshine developing. across england and wales, mist and fog or clear. wind is always light of the further south you are. we could see temperatures hit highs up around 23 degrees. still feel of summer there. we will see some rain this evening. temperatures dropped further down into single figures. as we go into tomorrow morning, a little bit on the cool side. the old weather front sitting in little bit on the cool side. the old weatherfront sitting in parts little bit on the cool side. the old weather front sitting in parts of south—west england. on that, we could see some rain in drizzle at times. perhaps some heavy bursts of rain. not as warm as today,

temperatures still into the midteens. into thursday, after a dry night, some clear skies around. the breeze and a brick or cloud through the english channel. most will have a fine day on thursday. after the reign of last weekend, i think many across parts of england and wales in particular will be enjoying the dry weather. watching the runners, the cyclists, eve ryo ne watching the runners, the cyclists, everyone is busy down there. the chancellor will set out his plans for government spending and taxes at the budget later this month. according to some of westminster‘s most—respected economists he faces an even trickier task than usual this year. steph's got more on this. this is based on analysis done by the institute for fiscal studies — an independent and impartial team of economists whose job it is to pick through government finances. they have credibility

with politicians. former prime minister david cameron described them as gold standard. so what they say matters. what they're saying today is that the government is going to struggle to get the numbers to add up. the government has said it will increase nhs funding, money for the armed forced and foreign aid. on top of that the prime minister said at the conservative party conference that she will end austerity. and the cost of all that? the ifs says it's about £19 billion a year. let's talk now to its director pauljohnson, hejoins us from our london newsroom. how did you come to this figure? we tried to make some sense of what the prime minister might mean. at a

minimum, it also mean the government will do what it said it will do for nhs spending which is a large amount of extra money over the next few yea rs of extra money over the next few years and stop making cuts elsewhere. it's going to do those two things, meet its pledges on the nhs, andjust two things, meet its pledges on the nhs, and just stop cuts elsewhere. stopping spending going down. that means they will need to spend an extra £19 billion or £20 billion per year by the end of this parliament. d think this £19 billion will come if any were? my guess is that it will come from extra borrowing. it could come from additional taxes but we know the chancellor has struggled to get tax rises through parliament in the past majority in parliament. ina long in the past majority in parliament. in a long run, if we spend more, we will have to tax more but in the

short run, we will end up with more borrowing. if you look at the conservative manifesto, they said they will get to budget balance and stop roaring by the mid—20 20s. if you borrow next in £19 billion also by 2022, who are not going to meet that manifesto commitment to get budget balance but my guess is that in effect, it is that manifesto commitment to good out the window. does it matter if we borrow more money? in the short run, no. two things really matter. the first is, we have to have a credible way of getting down eventually because at the levels of borrowing we are doing, even though they are not terribly high by historical standards, the accumulated debt is continuing to rise and it can't rise forever. it probably doesn't matter

in the short run but in the long run, you will have to do something about it. even if taxes don't drop over the next couple of years, it's almost inevitable they will go up over the next decade. often when we talk about the government borrowing money, but they borrow money off? a nurse from lots of different sources. they are borrowing at whoever is buying the government debt. they've probably got an awful lot of money invested in government debt. a lot of british savers and foreign institutions will be buying government debt. the government can sell this debt incredibly cheaply. people are willing to have low interest rates and that is because they are worrying about everything else going on. if you want your money to be saved, you might well decide you could get british government debt but the real worry to the government is if and when

investors decide the government is not safe, or they are worried about government policies or worried about the impact of brexit, it becomes much more expensive. that really becomes a problem for the government or public finances and taxpayers. borrowing more could be an option and could see tax rises but you think probably not. what about the economy growing faster? is there any chance of that? the economy growing faster would help a lot. at the moment, the projections are the slowest rate of growth in terms of projections. we haven't had projections. we haven't had projections quite as gloomy at the moment. if we end up with no deal brexit, growth could be a lot worse. we will probably go into negative territory. the upside of this is, if we get a decent deal or we kick the canfar we get a decent deal or we kick the can far enough down the road,, we

might geta can far enough down the road,, we might get a bounce back in the next year or two. we will end up borrowing more. not least because problems with the health service increases, a number of older people and so on. you're not going to get away without tax increases in the longer run even if we do it in the short run, irrespective of what happens in the gross —— the growth of the economy. in the run-up to the budget, i know you will be looking at it more. in two weeks time. it's been a fixture in the lives of children, and their parents, since 1958. today, blue peter celebrates its 60th birthday. and while everyone has their favourite presenter, it's the animals that were more often than not the stars of the show. here's one we made earlier. here is one we made earlier. when i

was a little girl, they did the campaign to collecting the cans. me and my friends we went out, spent days upon days collecting beanbags in bin bags and felt so proud taking into school. unfortunately we never got one. i look like a clown now, don't i. i rememberwatching it as got one. i look like a clown now, don't i. i remember watching it as a kid. i was a little boy. they were holding the doctor who contests to make the tardis back in 2011. i made a few submissions. john peter adding a few submissions. john peter adding a handful bringing in this little one. i thought that was the best bit. a slight problem. it teaches you, you learn a lot of things. every pa rt

you, you learn a lot of things. every part of your body is telling you to stop. i love the wait gets kids out there and experience in the world. happy birthday, blue peter. later on in the programme we'll speaking to two former blue peter presenters about their favourite moments over the past six decades. he was also in the film flash gordon. the amount of trivia and that brain, great information. you have a blue peter badge?” that brain, great information. you have a blue peter badge? i do and i know exactly where mine is. it's by my bed, i should have brought it in. i'm so proud. time to get the news travel and weather wherever you are. good morning from bbc london news,

i'm charlotte franks. five teenagers who were said to be on a mission "to do violence" have been jailed for fatally stabbing a man in an unprovoked attack. daniel frederick, a stranger to his killers was knifed repeatedly by the group just yards from his home in hackney. three teenagers were convicted of murder while another two were found guilty of manslaughter. an online fundraising platform has announced it will scrap fees for campaigns set up in response to major incidents and distasters. it's following criticism from the mp for bermondsey, neil coyle, who claimed justgiving had profited from £5000,000 of public donations, including money raised for grenfell tower residents and victims of the london bridge attack. the university of reading is backing a project to help save the declining bee population which experts say is threatening hundreds of billions of pounds in food production. the world bee project will help paint the first ever

picture of the state of bees. figures suggest that bees in england are vanishing faster than anywhere else in europe. let's take a look at the travel situation now. on the overg round: there are severe delays between stratford and richmond and clapham junction. onto the roads and the m25 is closed anticlockwise betweenjunction 28 at the brook street roundabout and j27 following a serious collision last night. it'll be closed for thenext few hours and you can see on the camera traffic‘s at a standstill. now the weather with georgina burnett. good morning.

well, we have a good deal of dry weather around this week and some sunny spells as well but not necessarily to start off today. there is a bit of mist and fog around and even some light rain and drizzle for some but that should all clear to give us all a good deal of sunshine later on. it's a bit misty and murky the start of the day but as lifts, we see sunshine emerging and staying put for many of us. temperatures today in the sunshine, we could get to 22, or possibly 23 degrees celsius with just a light southerly wind. overnight, we have clear spells, and more on the way building. as this front pushes its way south—eastwards. still very mild, temperatures between 9 and 11 celsius. it's a bit of a misty start and tomorrow. seeing this cloud approaching from the north—west. and binging with it a bit of light rain and drizzle for some of us,

not affecting everyone and the further south—east you are, actually, the more chance you have for sunshine tomorrow. temperatures getting up to about 18 or 19 degrees. a little cooler than today but still well above average for the time of year. good morning, welcome to breakfast with louise minchin and dan walker. our headlines today... a crucial 48 hours as theresa may tries to save her brexit plan. the prime minister meets her cabinet this morning before heading to brussels to try to break the deadlock. as the duke and duchess of sussex confirm they'll be parents in the spring, australians welcome the news with a few special gifts. a £2.2 million fine for paddy power after failing to protect customers. i'll have the details. sterling is stunning in seville as england win in spain for the first time in over 30 years.

we are having a slight problem down here! that is a classic! from misbehaving elephants to sticky—back plastic and jumping out of planes — blue peter turns 60. good morning from little venice in central london. they rather murky start for england and wales but brightening up later. scotland and northern ireland, grab your umbrellas, there is some rain on the way for you. and we have double olympic champion lizzy yarnold with this in about nine minutes, she has retired from sport and will tell us why. it's tuesday the 16th of october. our top story. in the next few hours theresa may will brief her cabinet on the deadlock in the brexit negotiations. senior ministers voiced concerns about her proposals during a meeting over pizza last night. here's our political correspondent nick eardley. how to guarantee no hard border

in ireland after brexit? still the key stumbling block to a deal with europe. the prime minister is offering an insurance policy which could see the uk follow europe's customs rules for a period. theresa may's playing down the idea that could end up being a long—term arrangement, but some want guarantees there would be a strict time limit. the brexit secratary, dominic raab, and the foreign secretary, jeremy hunt, were among eight ministers who met last night over pizza. they discussed the need for an end date to a customs deal, an issue that's likely to come up again this morning at the cabinet table. the stakes are high. the pm will be hoping she can maintain a sense of unity in government today, because tomorrow, an even bigger challenge as she heads to brussels to try and persuade other european leaders a breakthrough is possible. nick eardley, bbc news. our political correspondent leila nathoo is in westminster.

cabinet meeting today, then to discuss things with the eu leaders, this is a really significant a few days for the prime minister? this was meant to be crunch time for brexit negotiations, the summit was when the deal was meant to be agreed, but over the weekend negotiations with brussels ground to a halt, largely because theresa may realise that what was on offer from the eu would not wash with her cabinet ministers. trying to keep her cabinet ministers on site has been one of the struggles of her brexit strategy so far. she has already lost the former brexit secretary david davis and former foreign secretary boris johnson. there were rumours of further resignations over the weekend and last night he has brexiteer cabinet ministers getting together with a couple of normally while cabinet ministers for dinner, trying to game plan their strategy for the meeting this morning. it looks pretty

precarious for theresa may's brexit strategy. what she will hope from the meeting is to get the cabinet onside, get some agreement about what you hopes to put forwards to brussels, then go to brussels and hope they show the flexibility to agree to what she wants, but it does not look likely a deal will be reached this week so we could look at further summits in november and even now. the discussion continues. thank you, leila nathoo. a further delay to the roll—out of universal credit is being planned, according to leaked documents seen by the bbc. it's also suggested that there are plans to spend hundreds of millions of pounds to ease the hardship when claimants are moved onto the system. here's our social affairs correspondent, michael buchanan. it was meant to make things easier, bringing six different benefits into one monthly payment. but the roll—out of universal credit is already years behind schedule, and now we've learned it's going to be further delayed. the next step, moving up to four million benefit recipients onto universal credit want now properly start until november, 2020. more than a year later than planned.

—— won't now properly start until november 2020. in the commons yesterday, the secretary of state hinted at such a delay. it won't be starting injanuary in 2019, it will be later on in the year, and then for a further year, with a small amount of people, maybe 10,000 people, we will be learning as we go to make sure it is right, and then it will increase in the roll—out from 2020 onwards. leaked documents we've seen suggest that ministers want to use the delay to make significant changes to universal credit, amid evidence the use of food banks increases when the benefit is introduced in an area. the dwp hope to continue paying some benefits to claimants for an extra fortnight. most existing benefits are currently stopped when someone applies for universal credit. reduce the maximum reductions that can be taken from a universal credit payment and make it easier for self—employed people to receive the new benefit. paying for the changes, which would cost hundreds of millions of pounds,

still needs to be approved by the treasury. the problem we have is that it's the coming together of a big benefit change, with large welfare cuts at the same time, that is making this toxic. the government should, as a priority, both improve the operation of universal credit but also reserves the might reverse some of those cuts that are making the political roll—out of this benefit so difficult. —— but also reverse some of those cuts. but tentative plans to also continue paying child tax credits for a fortnight, crucial to single parents in particular, have seemingly been scrapped because they were deemed undeliverable because of the way universal credit operates. the department for work and pensions said it didn't comment on leaks. michael buchanan, bbc news. the duke and duchess of sussex have been on their first public outing since it was revealed that they are due to become parents. the couple are in australia for their first overseas tour and have already been given their first baby presents. they were handed a toy kangaroo and a pair of booties as they met australia's governor—general. they will also visit new zealand, fiji and tonga on their 16—day trip.

we'll bring you all the latest from sydney in about 10 minutes' time. unisex boots. of course. just in case! who knows?! president trump has said he is aware of unconfirmed reports that saudi arabia is preparing to say that the missing journalist, jamal khashoggi, died during an unauthorised interrogation at its consulate in turkey. officials investigating the disappearance of the prominent saudi critic have been searching the building in istanbul. in the last few moments, the us secretary of state mike pompeo has arrived in saudi arabia for a meeting with the country's leadership. offences motivated by prejudice against men could become hate crimes as part of a government review. figures released today are expected to show a spike in hate crime in england and wales. ministers are also looking to include misogyny and ageism. here's our home affairs correspondent danny shaw. talking about hate crime,

these kids at globe primary school in east london are meeting government minister lady williams to tell her what they have learnt from a course on equality and diversity. the home office is funding more projects like this as part of a new hate crime action plan. we learnt about stereotypes and we learnt not to judge people by just what they look like or just what we know about them. we should get to know them more and then judge them by their personality, not by their appearance. you don'tjudge a book by its cover, it is a good saying. you don'tjudge people by their parents. you have to be nice to people and respect them and notjudge them by the way they look or what their religion has done in the past, because everyone is different and you have to respect them. but the law on hate crime could be about to change. as well as getting schools to tackle the problem, the home office has announced a legal review. it will look at extending the definition of hate crimes

to include offences motivated by a hatred of women and men. people have come to us and it is right that we ask them to look at it and maybe that we don't take it forward. it would be very interesting to hear what the law commission says. the law commission review will also consider if offences targeting older people and those from alternative cultures, such as goths, should be defined as hate crimes, though more lessons about tolerance won't be needed here. danny shaw, bbc news, tower hamlets. facebook has brought in new rules for political advertising on the social network in the uk. from now on anyone running a political advert will have to prove their identity and say who has paid for it. this system is already in operation in the united states and brazil. the rap star kanye west — now known as ye — has dropped in on another world leader. this time he and his wife kim kardashian have been meeting uganda's president.

the meeting was aimed at promoting tourism in east africa but seemed a bit more subdued in comparison to the rapper's chat with president trump a few days ago. the couple are in uganda to finish recording ye's ninth studio album. they gave the president a signed pair of the star's white trainers, in return he gave them ugandan names. and i would like to thank the person on twitter who said you should just be called er. as in walk—er. look at these dangle is! the one from sochi is great. obviously they are not ours. they belong to our next guest.

she is the most successful british winter olympian of all time, winning back—to—back gold medals. but after a decade of hurtling face—first down a skeleton track at 90 miles an hour, lizzy yarnold has announced her retirement. good morning! sally hasjoined us as well. you have won everything the sport could offer. you brought in your olympic golds with you this morning. how hard a decision has this been and how do you feel know you have made it? really positive. really, really good. iam really positive. really, really good. i am in an amazing place physically and mentally, i am excited to tell everyone and watch the other athletes. there are so many other amazing skeleton athletes to watch, support and promote. and so many of them you have personally inspired, i have heard their stories, they look to you. it is kind of strange. i love the sport because whether it is skeleton athletes or an artist, a scientist, whoever, i don't mind what kids want to do, honestly, i want them just to chase their own dream.

where was the moment when you thought i just know where was the moment when you thought ijust know it is time to stop? i think i tried not to get my head thinking about it before pyeongchang, it was such an important race i wanted to make sure i was totally focused on that. afterwards i think there were a couple of injuries, i was ill, i did not know how the result would go. i did not want to retire thinking it was a bad result or because i am injured. i have had an amazing summer of rehab, the medical team has been fantastic. a tough summer, but now i realise i am just super proud of having an amazing ten years and enjoying it and ready for a new challenge. you have struggled with illness and injury, it has been tough? i think it is normal, setbacks and injuries are parfor the in i think it is normal, setbacks and injuries are par for the in sport. the last six months have been super tough and going through back issues.

i had never had surgery before and then i had two within six months, my back and my knee. now i can do yoga and swim and do fun activities and not have to go to the german blitz massive leg press awaits! isa massive leg press awaits! is a relief! -- and not have too go to the gym and lift massive leg press weighs. will you miss it? no! it is an amazing sport and i love the thrill of travelling so fast, but it is not like i go down the track going, woooh, this is so much fun. it is focused on trying to be better, am i in the flow, how was the run, how do we need to be better? it is so much hard work that goes into it. it is liberating not to have to think that way? yes. shall wejust remind

think that way? yes. shall we just remind people of you at your best? this is gold medal number two from... what year are we in now? from the winter olympics in 2018. let's have a little luck. commentator: to defend herjob as an olympic champion. she had a big lead. this could be at least silver for lizzy yarnold. she goes to the front, and wow! britain has won bronze as well! lizzy yarnold, what a performance! the first british athlete to successfully defend her olympic title excavation” athlete to successfully defend her olympic title excavation i love the pictures of everyone hugging each other. i have had lovely texts. you kind of forget how many people have been pa rt forget how many people have been part of the journey, sharing the podium with laura, one of my best mates, i feel so lucky.

a few weeks ago we spoke to amy williams about how injuries affected her, she has had to move into a bungalow because of knee and hip problems. i know you have had the two operations, do you feel the aches and pains or have you come through relatively unscathed ? skeleton has taught me so much about being fit and healthy in my mind and body and how to train my body and push myself. i have achieved more than i thought humanly possible, but my injuries are not necessarily because of skeleton. was it called girls for gold when you first started ? called girls for gold when you first started? people would think i cannot possibly do... they can! i did not find my sport until i was 18, i love sports but i felt like i had not found the one for me. have a go,

don't limit yourself and chase your dreams. what's did they see a new when you tested for that? she is really good at that, maybe she could do this? i think it was the 30 metre sprint speed, a basic characteristic, then it was probably the mental toughness, and can she deal with it? you have done all right! i know you are you have done all right! i know you a re really you have done all right! i know you are really passionate about and a new generation, might that be in your future, working with new generation, might that be in yourfuture, working with kids? yes, i really want to stay involved in skeleton and be an advocate for women in sport. i have enjoyed com plete women in sport. i have enjoyed complete equality and support, but not many sports can say that. i really wa nt not many sports can say that. i really want to support people. and mental health as well. if i can keep banging the drum and people listen, i absolutely will. you are inspirational for the i absolutely will. you are inspirationalfor the next generation coming through but vocal on some of the issues in sport. before we let you go, can i ask your reaction to well done to the lifting

the ban on russia? —— world anti—doping lifting the ban.” the ban on russia? —— world anti-doping lifting the ban. i do not think that was correct to let them back without them completing the things they were meant to complete. we have to keep pushing for a clean and fair competition. thank you for coming to see us. we love these, i don't want to hand them back! you can't go into a school and say i do not have my medals, because bbc brea kfast stole do not have my medals, because bbc breakfast stole them. head to the bbc breakfast instagram page now to ask lizzy a question, and she will be answering them after nine o'clock this morning. we will let you have a cup of tea. so if you're going to school this morning, first lesson of the day, let's come up with a question for lizzy yarnold and tabs instagram

fun. sounds perfect. thank you for coming in and all the best with what you are going do next. here's matt with a look at this morning's weather. he's in little venice for us talking about what we should and shouldn't feed our ducks. good morning. just a stoneaway from paddington. being nearwhat good morning. just a stoneaway from paddington. being near what is good for mental well—being. but leave the bread at home if you are seeing some ducks today, the canal and river trust tell as it is not good for the environment and it promotes algae growth and encourages pests like rats. we will talk more in detail about what you should feed them later. the cloud is breaking up, some hints of brightness are coming through and that will be the story for england and wales after a misty and foggy start. a bigotry rizzelli through parts of wales and north—west

england. the real weather today is for northern ireland in north—west scotland. not as bad as the weekend, but the weather front is working in from the atlantic, i suppose tightly packed. the weather fronts from the atlantic, i suppose tightly packed. the weatherfronts is from the atlantic, i suppose tightly packed. the weather fronts is on the move. for northern ireland, it is maybe through the morning and early afternoon we will see rain move from west to east, some heavy. rain is already in the western isles of scotland, it will move across the rest of scotland during the day, preceded and followed by something drier and brighter. gusts of maybe 50 mph in the north, winds light of further south, the mist and fog brea ks further south, the mist and fog breaks up, most of england and wales will have a dry and bright day, and warmer, with temperatures around 23 degrees, quite remarkable for this stage in october. temperatures around the mid—teens elsewhere, a notch above where we should be for the time of year. a mild start to the night, turning cooler than last night, finishing the day with some rain and drizzle

across north—west england and wales, heading towards the midlands and south west later. clear skies either side, mist and fog patches and single figure temperatures. a cooler can meet tomorrow, a dry day ahead for many. if you're in the zone from south—east england, south west wales to the midlands in lincolnshire, a zone of cloud will sit for most of the day. some outbreaks of drizzle, heaviest towards the south—west. while temperatures are down on today, not too bad for the time of year. a cooler night into thursday morning with sunshine developing for most of you after a few mist and fog patches. light winds for the vast majority, a breeze in northern scotla nd majority, a breeze in northern scotland and to the english channel. we could see one of two showers in the english channel, but not a bad day and after all the wet weather this week, the rain today will not amount to too murch and things will dry out quite nicely for those

affected by the floods. —— the rain sterling work in little venice, and advice about ducks! the betting firm paddy power has been fined?m advice about ducks! the betting firm paddy power has been fined? it is for failing paddy power has been fined? it is forfailing to paddy power has been fined? it is for failing to protect customers and interact customers who have problems with gambling. the gambling watchdog says they should have understood that some customers were using their sites who clearly had a problem with gambling. the other issue was to do with the fa ct the other issue was to do with the fact they say there was stolen money, it was too easily flowing around the system because they did not have enough anti—money laundering systems in place. they have been fined £2.2 million, a drop in the ocean compared to how much paddy power makes in a year, but it isa paddy power makes in a year, but it is a fine for these two significant reasons, lots of talk about gambling

awareness at the moment and £1.7 million of the fine will go to the charity gamble aware and the other half a million will return to some of the parties impacted. the gambling commission's investigation says that significant amounts of stolen money flowed through and it is not acceptable. operators have a duty to customers to seek and prevent the proceeds of crime being used in gambling, that is the gambling commission chief executive who has complained about that. we get a lot of talk about gambling, people talk about the advertising side. as much as some people really enjoy it, there is a dark side and it rips lives to bits? we have had people on the programme talking openly about the problems they have had with gambling, trying to ove rco m e they have had with gambling, trying to overcome them. like many addictions. some people say we should take more care of these

people, particularly operators, not just take their money. but the flip side is people say how you spend your money is your own responsibility. but in the case of companies like paddy power, it is their responsibility if they see their customers, and the gambling commission has highlighted a few customers continually coming back and back and they can see there are problems, then they should intervene and basically know their customer more. if they are using their business that much they should know more about them. the other side is a lot is done online, if you want to be hidden from people you can do that these days, that can make a tricky. thank you very much. on an entirely different note, did you have a favourite blue peter presenter? say peter duncan, he is coming in later! i love helen

skelton. she is so brilliant in all other things used. feisty and brilliant. i was looking on her social media, she was talking about things she has done through blue peter. she paddled the amazon. and she did battersea power station, i have broadcast from farand to think power station, i have broadcast from far and to think of her walking across a trapeze on that, a tightrope, i mean. it is like, what?! the reason we are talking about it is it celebrates its 60th birthday today. it's been a fixture in the lives of children, and their parents, since 1958. today, blue peter celebrates its 60th birthday. and while everyone has their favourite presenter, it's the animals that were more often than not the stars of the show. here's one we made earlier. i have waited to say that for yonks! when i was little, dave —— they did the campaign for collecting the cans, mights brands and i spent days

collecting it in bin bags and we felt so proud taking them into school. do you think ty wilcox will mind me copying her hair? and i look like a clown! even more like a clown.” like a clown! even more like a clown. i watched it asa even more like a clown. i watched it as a little boy, they were holding the doctor who contests to make a new tardis in 2011. i made a few submissions. john and peter are having quite a handful trying to bring in this little one. it has to be the elephant weeing withjohn noakes it has to be the elephant weeing with john noakes and valerie singleton, i thought that was the best bet! we're having a slight problem! it teaches you, you can learn a lot and get involved. isis it teaches you, you can learn a lot and get involved. is is the world's tallest man—made climbing wall. every part of your body is telling you to stop. ijust you to stop. i just love the way it gets

you to stop. ijust love the way it gets kids out there, experiencing the world. thank you to everybody who has got in touch about blue peter. janet says i grew up watching it as a child, i remember a feature which showed puppy walkers preparing guide dog puppies to be guide dogs. i think i remember that. i remember thinking what a wonderful thing to do. that stayed with me, i am 64, retired, my husband and i have become puppy walkers to a lively labrador puppy. sarah says blue peter was a massive pa rt sarah says blue peter was a massive part of my life, they held a competition to write a storyline for grange hill in the late 70s. if you won you got the opportunity to have a tiny part. i did not win but i received a runner up certificates andi received a runner up certificates and i still have it, happy birthday, blue peter. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. we have started this morning with

quite a bit of mist and murk, but gradually through the day it will lift in brighton for many today. slightly warmer compared to yesterday but we have a bit of rain in the forecast. —— it will lift and brighton for many today. you can see by the isobars they are fairly close together across the north and west, it will bring some strong winds, there will be gales in the far north—west of scotland. the patchy rain moves through northern ireland and into the west of scotland. for england and wales, the mist and scotland. for england and wales, the mistand murk scotland. for england and wales, the mist and murk generally clears, sunny spells developing.

warmer than yesterday, particularly towards east anglia and the south—east of england, you still have some oranges, temperatures getting into the 20s. just a few degrees higher, widely, than yesterday, around 14 to 17. this evening and overnight, this rain will continue to move further south and east with a band of cloud moving through england and wales. clear spells for scotland and the far north—west of england and wales. temperatures getting down to around seven to nine celsius, but towards the south and east, temperatures staying in double figures at around ten or 11. the weather front is with you through wednesday across south—west england, the midlands, the north—east of england, it is a very wea k the north—east of england, it is a very weak feature, it will bring this band of cloud, patchy light rain and drizzle, particularly over higher ground. sunshine on the far north—east of england and most of us on wednesday have some sunshine. some showers into the west of

scotland, temperatures around 13 to 15, fresher than yesterday. the temperatures will continue to dip a bit into thursday, still plenty of dry and sunny weather. goodbye. this is business live from bbc news, with ben thompson and samantha simmonds. the co—founder of microsoft, paul allen, has died at the age of 65. tributes pour in from across the tech world. live from london, that's our top story on tuesday the 16th of october. bill gates has described his life—long friend paul allen as a pioneer, saying that personal computing wouldn't have existed without him. also in the programme... google's boss gives more detail of its plans to re—enter china — a market it abandoned

over censorship concerns. markets are focused on events in italy today, where the government is set to approve a new budget