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hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source. us secretary of state mike pompeo has been in saudi arabia — and the saudis have agreed to a thorough investigation into the disappearance of the journalist jamal khashoggi. we'll also have the latest on the investigation in turkey. theresa may's cabinet met earlier to discuss how to break the brexit deadlock. the latest eu summit starts tomorrow — and the mood music isn't good. tomorrow i'm going to ask the prime minister theresa may whether she has concrete proposals on how to break the impasse. we'll hear about what's being called the biggest religious schism in centuries. the russian orthodox church cuts ties with its spiritual authority. and in california, james cook has been given lab—grown meat. guess what it tastes like? it's really tasty. it tastes like chicken. the latest on saudi
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journalist jamal khashoggi. us secretary of state mike pompeo has flown from washington to riyadh. here he is meeting with the saudi crown prince mohammed bin salman. turkey says jamal khashoggi was murdered in the saudi consulate in istanbul. saudi arabia denies any involvement. mike pompeo heads to istanbul next. this is interesting from my colleague mohamed madi. and remember yesterday i showed these pictures of a team going into the consulate.
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well, president erdogan says today they found some materials in the consulate that appear to have been painted over. turkey has now said it's now widening its search to include the residence of the saudi consul residence in istanbul. here's cagil kasupoglu from bbc turkish. president erdogan does not point his fingers directly to riyadh because clearly turkey is not in a position for it to lose such a big country which possesses almost 20% of oil reserves in the world and it is in the muslim world, turkey would like to maintain its influence over the muslim world. saudi arabia is hosting ‘davos in the desert‘ next week — it's a key event for the crown prince to get investment. a lot of ceos and media
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organisations have pulled out. but steven mnuchin, the us treasury secretary, still plans to attend. earlier i spoke to barbara plett usher in washington. i put it to her that american business is moving faster than american politics. i think you are right. there have been another senior business leaders, corporate leaders, pulling out of that investment conference in saudi arabia, and there have been report in washington that lobbying firms that have saudi arabia as a client had severed contracts so saudi arabia is beginning to look a bit toxic in terms of investment, at least it will until it becomes clear what happened. this is very important to mohammed bin salman, he has really wanted foreign investment
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and he tried hard to get businesses to invest in saudi arabia and he promised investment here so that will be something he notices for certain. the statement that has been released by the state department on this issue, it is the secretary and the crown prince agreed on the importance of a timely and thorough investigation that provides answers. it is not say anything stronger than that, though. some say the saudis will be glad with how that is worded. it is very carefully worded and there has been an emphasis from mike pompeo's trip and even before that on the investigation, the thorough and transparent investigation, and he went there with that message from the state department, not much other information coming out of the meetings he held, and the message that was put out was that the saudis agreed to this so that has been the emphasis from the state department. donald trump's emphasis has been
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denials, he said he spoke to king salman and he strongly denied the allegations. he has also said he got off the phone with mohammed bin salman and he also strongly denied he knew anything about what happened at the turkish consulate. trump said a nswe i’s at the turkish consulate. trump said answers will be forthcoming. that is answers will be forthcoming. that is a different tone to what we see in the business world and from what we hearin the business world and from what we hear in the senate where there are very sharp anguish segments. —— angry statements. and a word about turkey? what are the american expectations? we have very little information about the substance of what mike pompeo is after. we have not even got a sense of how confrontational his private meetings with the saudis were. we have been given the public pitches of them smiling and working at each other cordelia and we have been told he will be meeting with the foreign minister in turkey and it will be
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about jamal khashoggi but minister in turkey and it will be aboutjamal khashoggi but i think he will be talking about the results of his meetings in saudi arabia and how the three of them, the saudis and the three of them, the saudis and the turks and the us can deal with the turks and the us can deal with the situation in a way that defuses the situation in a way that defuses the crisis because all of them are deeply affected by it. thanks to barbara. the latest eu summit starts tomorrow. and in advance there have been yet more efforts to break the brexit deadlock. in london, theresa may told the cabinet that if it stays unified, a deal can be done. meanwhile in luxembourg, the eu's chief negotiator michel barnier has been briefing european ministers. and he spoke afterwards. translation: we've worked very hard in recent weeks and in the last few days with the british authorities to find an all—encompassing solution to the question of ensuring an orderly brexit. brexit needs to be orderly for all parties and in all areas, including ireland. we need to find a solution to ensure under no circumstances there is no hard border
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on the island of ireland. we have not yet managed this. there are still several areas under discussion, including the question of the irish border. those ministers will then brief their respective leaders who will gather in brussels on wednesday. there they'll decide if a deal is close enough to warrant a special brexit summit in november to finalise the whole thing. that's not looking very likely based on what donald tusk said earlier. for a breakthrough to take place, besides goodwill we need facts. tomorrow i'm going to ask prime minister may whether she has concrete proposals on how to break the impasse. only such proposals can determine if the breakthrough is possible. while working on the brexit deal we also need to make sure that we are prepared in case an agreement is not possible. the issue at the heart of all this the irish border. theresa may insists that any deal
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on customs or trade must apply to the whole of the uk — including northern ireland. and everyone agrees there mustn't be a hard border between northern ireland and the republic of ireland. it's how to do that with the uk outside of the eu's single market and its customs union that is the conundrum. katya adler is the bbc‘s europe editor and she's been speaking to germany's europe minister michael roth. translation: we are not at a cattle market here, we are here to negotiate in the interests of european citizens and the integrity of the single market is very important which seems hard for the uk to accept. binding agreement with the uk comes down to us agreeing to avoid a hard border in ireland we will not allow ourselves to be blackmailed —— binding agreement. we did not ask for brexit and we did not want it and despite that we are
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trying to make the best of it and at the end of the day it will be painful and negotiations are not going to change that. we often speak to rob watson about uk politics will stop one of the things which is so strange and tells you about the crazy times we are living in, there isa crazy times we are living in, there is a headline that none of the cabinet has walked out on her. the bar has been set very low. exactly. but we are where we are and the reason why no but we are where we are and the reason why no one but we are where we are and the reason why no one will doubtless because theresa may did not confront them and say this is the new plan we are going to take to the european union. the reason why there when the deal is basically because this is an ugly secret, the british government is still negotiating with itself about how it wants to leave the eu what the future relationship would be, the major problem is a domestic one inside the governing
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conservative party in other words. presumably for those negotiations to progress the eu or the uk needs to bring something new? basically the eu has said to theresa may we want to see your plan, but they are not going to get that. she in turn will wa nt to going to get that. she in turn will want to say to them, you can see how incredibly difficult things are for me politically back home in the uk, what can you do? i suspect the eu is not going to offer very much if anything at all, and it is worth reminding ourselves why that is. the european union feels as though britain is leaving the gym, giving up britain is leaving the gym, giving up its membership, they are very sorry about that, but they say you can't expect if you are going to leave the gym that you can still come and have a shower and use the equipment. the eu thinks that british politicians are essentially wa nt to
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british politicians are essentially want to get the eu to change their rules even though it is britain that is leaving. a quick word about the deadlines we are operating on. this summit was pointed out as being the summit was pointed out as being the summit where it had to be done for all of this to be signed off by the releva nt all of this to be signed off by the relevant parliaments within the eu but evidently that was not a hard deadline. that is so funny. that is what the politicians told us, this one is crucial, but now actually the talk inside the british cabinet was theresa may telling ministers, to not be downhearted if it goes on until december. what? that is a possibility. the key date is march 29 when britain is supposed to be leaving the european union and as long as a deal is done sometime between now and then, there will be a collective wiping of brows in brussels and in london. plenty more
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information on brexit on bbc news website, should you want it. stay with us on outside source — still to come. a show of force by mosocw after a ukrainian church was granted independence — the russian orthodox church cuts ties with constantinople. so what happens next? in the uk the government has said it's continuing its "test and learn" approach to introducing universal credit — after bbc news found that ministers plan to spend hundreds of millions of pounds on alleviating hardship caused to claimants. it's emerged that the roll—out of the system — which replaces other working age benefits — is to be further delayed so that changes can be made. critics of the scheme have said the changes don't go far enough. we've had people going into arrears and even losing their homes because of eviction so this is a real mess of eviction so this is a real mess ofa of eviction so this is a real mess of a programme and the government needs to get its act together and
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sort it out. we have always said that under universal credit is a test and learn approach and as we test and learn approach and as we test and learn we adapt and earlier this year we but in an extra {1.5 billion to support claimants and clearly this is a process. this is outside source live from the bbc newsroom. our lead story is... mike pompeo meets the saudi leadership — as the saudis agreed to a thorough investigation into the disappearance of the journalist jamal khashoggi. other stories now from bbc world service: myanmar has cleared 8,000 rohingya muslims for repatriation — according to the bangladeshi foreign minister. it's not yet clear when they will be repatriated — but if this happens, it will be the first time rohingya
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refugees return to myanmar since the start of this crisis in august last year. that's from bbc bangla. an aid worker with the international committee of the red cross has been killed in nigeria by islamist militants who kidnapped her in march. hauwa liman was killed days after a deadline set by her kidnappers — who are a faction of boko haram. a fellow midwife and aid worker was killed by the group last month. that's from bbc hausa. the ecuadorian embassy has given wikileaks founder, julian assange, a set of house rules, including cleaning his bathroom and taking better care of his cat. julian assange has been in the embassy since 2012 after seeking asylum to avoid extradition to sweden on a rape allegation. in 2014, 13 people, women, men and young children, were shot dead in cold blood by peacekeepers, serving in the central african republic. human rights watch agents discovered
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the killings by chance when they where passing through the central african town of boali — about 100 kilometres northwest of the capital bangui. the organisation launched an investigation and published this report — where they describe it as one of the worst massacres by peacekeepers in africa. families of the victims are calling forjustice, after three soldiers convicted for most of the murders, were sentenced to just three years injail. catherine byaruhanga reports. this is where peacekeepers began their bloody revenge after their colleague was killed. the self—styled general with a christian militia was their target. but no one not even children were spared. robert came looking for his brother general maurice but instead he found the boy, shot dead. translation:
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general maurice but instead he found the boy, shot dead. translationzlj arrived after they took my brother andi arrived after they took my brother and i went inside the compound and found traces of the murder of the child. he was lying outside and his face was broken. ifound the child. he was lying outside and his face was broken. i found the clothes on the floor and the bed where the general used to sleep was empty and no one was around. i general used to sleep was empty and no one was around. i decided to go back. several people including maurice were taken from this house. in the town an innocent bystander was also picked up. translation: earlier that day he called me and told me that he is coming here for shopping. at 4pm when the incident happened we all ran away, he did not know about it. he parked his motorcycle right here and was sitting on it when the gun was pointed towards him and they took him in theircar. pointed towards him and they took him in their car. no one taken that day would ever be seen alive again.
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these were killings that might have remained hidden were it not for a chance encounter. human rights watch was coming through the town and we stopped to get a coffee and a contact one of our local staffers walked up and said, a dozen people including women and children were taken by including women and children were ta ken by force. including women and children were taken by force. it was to be the start of a long and painstaking investigation that had to deal with misinformation from the beginning. at the time the african union said the peacekeepers had killed a dozen militia in self defence but human rights watch investigators found out that the people arrested had been taken to the congolese commanders home to the left. this is where they we re home to the left. this is where they were shot in cold blood before being buried ina were shot in cold blood before being buried in a mass grave close to the
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african union peacekeeping base. there is this notion that you can come to the central african republic as an international peacekeeper and get away with murder. that is by us continuing to work on this case, we are trying to let people know that they would actually be held accountable for their actions if they commit these crimes. in april this year three soldiers were convicted of murdering 11 of the 13 people killed. for war crimes they we re people killed. for war crimes they were sentenced to just three years in prison. they have already been freed now for time served. the families of the victims had no idea the trial was even happening. translation: parents of the victims participate in the trial of tormentors and they killed our relatives but the process is carried out behind closed doors. we reject that process and we demand a new trial, otherwise who is going to be
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in charge of the orphans of the victims? they will die. the relatives of those killed are now pushing for a civil case. hoping they finally get the justice they believe they deserve. bbc news in the central african republic. the bbc has contacted congo's ministry ofjustice for a response, but no one was available. this is the russian paper izvestia — this reads "total break — christianity is on the verge of the third split". this is about the russian orthodox church. it's cut all links with the body in istanbul that's seen as the spiritual authority over the world's orthodox christians. it's done that in protest at the body's backing of the ukrainian orthodox church breaking its longstanding connection to the russian orthodox church. this has huge ramifications.
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the russian church has 100 million believers. sarah rainsford in moscow has more. after hours of crisis talks a spokesman for the russian church emerge to announce the total rupture relations with constant noble, the spiritual home of orthodoxy —— constantinople. the bishop says there will be no contact with constantinople until the —— as long as the legal decisions, as moscow says, remain in force. after the soviet collapse two churches split from moscow, and now constantinople has granted them official status, inviting the distance to unite in one independent church. —— inviting the dissidents. in kiev people
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celebrated the ruling, shaking off another tool of russian influence. after yea rs of another tool of russian influence. after years of conflict with moscow the ukrainian president says kiev is regaining its spiritual freedom. the ukrainian president says kiev is regaining its spiritualfreedom. in moscow orthodox believers are starting to worry. the church has increased its power and presence here under vladimir putin and seems like this, during dizzy a relic on our common “— like this, during dizzy a relic on our common —— scenes like this, queueing to see a relic are now common, but this also deals a blow to the talk of a shaw to a russian world, countries united by their russian roots —— deals a blow to the talk of vladimir putin. this struggle is about more than faith, it is about power, two, and politics. a short time ago, i spoke to irena tarnyukfrom bbc ukrainian about how popular the decision to separate the ukrainian
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orthodox church from russia has been in ukraine. it is certainly long—awaited in ukraine and it has split the country in two because you have to remember that moscow is twice the size of the churches, orthodox churches in ukraine, that until recently have not been can olic and not been recognised by other churches. what actually caused the anger in moscow was the fact that the patriarch recognise them as can olic churches and they will no longer be called schismatic is by moscow and for the faithful, ukrainian orthodox christians, the decision by bartholomew was controversial because a majority of them have allegiance to kiev patriarch which was not recognised, now they rejoiced because finally they are no
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longer heretics and schismatics but there is a sizeable chunk of ukrainian orthodox christians who actually support moscow still. they will be some people who look at this decision and they will look at the conflict in the east of the ukraine and they will say that these things are connected. is that true? it is because the ukraine fought to get its own independence from russia, the orthodox church, since gaining political independence in 1992. 1991, sorry. so, in a way, this decision has been long overdue, but the ukraine appealed to moscow in 1991 and of course moscow would not grant it to ukraine and now with the war in the ukrainian east raging, russia and moscow have lost the battle for ukrainian's heart and minds over and with this decision to
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split for constantinople from the canonical church, moscow is losing the battle for ukrainian's souls. remember this un report on climate change last week? it says one way we can all help slow rising temperatures is to eat less meat. over 14% of all greenhouse gas emissions are because of animalfarming. one company in san francisco has an idea — to grow chicken in a lab. james cook has tried some. get that in the source and have a bite. it's really tasty. it tastes like chicken. it is chicken! the taste is very similar but the physicality and the feel of it is slightly different. we can work on getting
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that together. finding things in the animal kingdom or 3—d printing, scaffolding, other ways we can do it. this farm says it is chicken will be on a restaurant menu by the end of this year, probably in asia. i'm not sure if i fancy that or not, but if you are watching in asia, let me now. this is a short episode of the programme because we are about to bring you live coverage as we find out the winner of the booker prize. that is coming up on both networks in a couple of minutes' time. goodbye. the next uk forecast is coming up in half an hour but now we can have a look at some of the weather making
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news around the world. yesterday i was talking about ex—hurricane leslie and what it did in portugal and the remnants are now affecting the western mediterranean and the flash flooding it has brought two parts of france has been devastating. deadly flash flooding with several lives lost in south—western areas of france and you can see the damage and the intensity of the brain that came down on sunday night —— of the rain. this area of low pressure is still spinning around, producing further downpours, and as we look at what happened in south—west france on sunday night, over 100 millimetres of rain and much of that falling in a small space of time, twice the monthly average rainfall for october and that is a huge amount. the threat of flash flooding and not just it, into southern france, is
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continuing as the area of low pressure is still here, also the north east of spain, corsica and sardinia and parts of italy, so as long as the system hangs around the danger of flooding is still there. look at the extent of the sunshine and warmth across many other parts of europe. unusually warm for the time of the year. summer conditions hanging on for some people. now to the usa, slow—moving weatherfront producing rain in texas but the weather front has moved through eastern canada and the north—east of the usa, the wind arrows indicate the usa, the wind arrows indicate the wind is coming from a northerly direction and it has cooled things down and there are some wintry showers around but in contrast there is warmth in the pacific northwest around seattle and vancouver and also some strong winds in southern california. temperatures dipping in
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montreal and new york but warmth into seattle. let's have a look at a system which was a cyclone and it has now weakened. unusual part of the world for them to move into, affecting yemen. now into southern portions of saudi arabia, not moving too far but tending to dissipate. cloud but not much in the way of rain. back to the uk the weather front moving south through wednesday and after that high pressure building in and things settling there will be much more in the weather for the week ahead in half an hour. hello, and welcome to the splendid surroundings of guildhall, here in the heart of the city of london. where in the next half an hour, we will find out who has won one of the world's most famous, and most important literary prizes, the man booker, awarded to the best novel of the year.
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previous winners have included sir salman rushdie and dame hilary mantel, and other winners are here tonight, including the nobel laureate sir kazuo ishiguro, howard jacobson, and as byatt.
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