hello, it's wednesday, it's nine o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire, welcome to the programme. a dramatic rise in the use of video chats and live streaming is leaving children open to abuse, according to the nspcc today. the girl actually revealed that it was a man, and he'd been grooming ben, and if he didn't start to act and do things and say things, certain things that he was asking, they would reveal to all his friends that he was gay. that's the shocking story of a teenage boy who was groomed over skype. would you know if your child or teenager was being groomed online? we'll bring you expert advice after ten. we're in the brexit endgame — theresa may heads to brussels today for crucial brexit talks. she's urging eu leaders to compomise on the irish border issue. people with ms who say they're trapped in their own homes because they don't qualify for a benefit payment

that gives them access to a mobility car are protesting outside parliament today. it really beggared belief that i was turned down. when i actually tried to appeal the decision and i saw a copy of the report that was written, it really didn't bear any resemblance to what i had explained and what my carer had explained, what i experience and what i go through on a day to day basis with ms. and this ad, shown while love island was on, has been banned by the advertising standards authority. if you've been considering breast enlargement for a while, visit mya cosmetic surgery now. we'll be speaking to the mental health foundation, who compained about it. hello, welcome to the programme.

we're live until 11 this morning. does your child or teenager get involved in video chats or use live streaming from any of their devices? if so, would you know if your child was being groomed? let me know how you police that sort of stuff — if you do. we'll talk to the nspcc after ten. they have the results of a survey suggesting more and more children are vulnerable to this kind of grooming. send us your experiences, you can e—mail or text. our top story today — theresa may will address european leaders at a summit in brussels this evening with the brexit talks deadlocked.

the two sides are struggling to agree over how to prevent the return of customs checks on the irish border. our political correspondent iain watson reports. the last time the prime minister met her fellow european leaders, in salzburg in september, things didn't exactly go to plan. she was told her ideas for a new trading relationship after brexit wouldn't work, and the president of the european council posted this photograph on instagram, suggesting the british government couldn't have its cake and eat it, or cherry—pick the best bits of the european single market. so perhaps it is not surprising that expectations of progress at this month's summit are low. this is what the eu council president, who will chair the discussion, said yesterday. as i see it, the only source of hope for a deal for now, is the goodwill and determination on both sides. however, for a breakthrough to take place, besides goodwill, we need new facts.

before she even gets to brussels, theresa may will face further scrutiny from the opposition, and very likely from some in her own party, at pmqs. then she will face 27 european leaders, before they go off and digestjust what she has told them over dinner. on the menu will be the so—called backstop — the tricky issue of how to avoid a hard border between northern ireland and the irish republic in all circumstances after brexit. so what will be agreed in brussels today? probably very little. the idea of calling a special summit in november to sign off a deal now seems unlikely. if there is an agreement with the eu, it may not come until closer to christmas, just a few months away from when the uk leaves the european union. iain watson, bbc news, westminster. joanna gosling is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the day's news. president trump says accusations saudi arabia murdered a journalist represent another case of "guilty until proven innocent". he added that he'd spoken

to the saudi crown prince, mohammed bin salman, and he had totally denied any knowledge of what had happened. turkey has claimed the journalist jamal khashoggi was murdered in the saudi consulate two weeks ago. us secretary of state mike pompeo revealed details of the meeting as he headed to ankara this morning for talks with the turkish president. i stressed the importance of them conducting a complete investigation into the disappearance of jamal khashoggi. and they made a commitment, they said they would do that. they said it would be a thorough, complete and transparent investigation. we'll all see the results of that. they made a commitment that they would show the entire world the results of their investigation. they also indicated that they would get this done quickly. i don't know the precise timeline, but they indicated that they understood the importance of getting that done in a timely, rapid fashion, so that they could begin to answer important questions. an international register of suspected sexual predators in the charity sector is to be set up by the british government. it follows a series of scandals earlier this year involving staff

at oxfam and save the children. £2m from the aid budget will be spent on the project. the announcement comes as a new report from the charity commission reveals that there is still systemic under—reporting of safeguarding problems. rail passengers are facing major disruption on routes in and out of london paddington station. there were long queues at reading due to the cancellation of all services running between slough and paddington after overhead electric cables were damaged at ealing. trains between paddington and heathrow airport are also not running. network rail said services are likely to be affected all day. our correspondent simonjones is at london paddington station. morning, simon, tell us more about the impact this is having. well, this is one of london's's

busiest railway stations, so when things go wrong, they go wrong in quite a big way. when you go into the station, you have the very strange side of the departure boards com pletely strange side of the departure boards completely empty, because there are no trains arriving or departing. now, it is causing a big problem, particularly as this where you get friends to heathrow airport, so throughout the morning we have seen people unaware of the problems, wheeling cases down into the station, only to return wheeling their cases the other way a few minutes later with rather disgruntled looks on their faces, being told they have to try alternate ways to get to the station, perhaps by the tube, some saying they will hop in a taxi. there are rail replacement buses, but when i asked staff how long it would take to get to heathrow on the bus with it stopping at every station stop, they said they couldn't put a figure on it. this has been put down to problems last

night, with the overhead power supply. we understand around 500 metres of cabling has been damaged, network rail won't say how that happened, but what they are saying is that there are going to be no services from the station throughout the morning, possibly two lines will reopen this afternoon, but even if that happens, with the number of people using the station, there will be problems here throughout the rest of today. thank you very much, simon. gordon brown has accused ministers of being deceitful when they say only a minority of claimants will be worse off under universal credit. in an article for the guardian, the former prime minister quotes the child poverty action group as estimating that a5 million families will lose money. downing street says £3 billion in total is being set aside to ease the rollout. the increased use of video chats and live online streaming among children and teenagers is leaving them vulnerable to grooming, abuse and blackmail, according to the nspcc. the charity surveyed 40,000 children aged 7—16, and found that a quarter have used video chats or online streaming apps.

on video chats, 10% had been asked to remove clothes. the nspcc is calling on the government to do more to tackle the danger. canada has become only the second nation in the world to legalise recreational cannabis. smokers can purchase the drug from licensed producers in a move that marks the end of 95 years of marijuana prohibition. canada has one of the highest rates of cannabis use in the world, particularly among young people. campaigners with multiple sclerosis will protest outside parliament today over claims that thousands of people have been left trapped in their homes because they don't qualify for the higher level of the personal independence payment, or pip. to receive the higher level, which gives access to a suitable car, people must demonstrate they cannot walk more than 20 metres. before 2013, when pip replaced the disability living allowance, the measure was 50 metres. today, the ms society is delivering a petition to the department for work

and pensions, calling for an end to what they call "the 20 metre test". thousands of babies are at risk of severe harm and neglect because they are growing up in toxic households, according to a report by the children's commissioner for england. ann longfield is calling on the government to inject more cash into local authorities and social services to help prevent the abuse of young children. lauren moss reports. entirely dependent on adult care, babies are the most vulnerable in society. but there is a warning thousands are living in homes exposed to abuse or neglect. it is feared council services are creaking under financial pressure and will reach a tipping point if more funding isn't found — and fast. there is a risk that, with decreasing budgets for local councils, and most of the money now going on children with acute needs, when crisis happens, that the money that's left for early intervention at the earliest possible time to prevent problems isn't available. so my worry is that children aren't

being offered the support they need, that families aren't being offered their help, and that literally we are having to cross our fingers that those children don't suffer severe harm. according to the report, more than 19,000 babies under the age of one are in need, where they depend on support from social services. almost 16,000 of those are deemed to be at risk of severe harm yet haven't been taken into care. more than 8,000 are growing up in the middle of what is being called a toxic trio of drug or alcohol addiction, domestic violence, and severe mental ill health. later this month, the chancellor will deliver his autumn budget and set out what the government plans to spend its money on. the commissioner and local councils are calling for more cash for children's services. the government says it is investing £270 million in social care programmes, but there are fears the most vulnerable in society will continue to be the most at risk. the duke and duchess of sussex have

spent a second day touring australia on their first official royal visit. they arrived in new south wales but had the show stolen from them by a young boy who took rather a shine to prince harry — and in particular his beard. the couple then visited a farm that has been badly affected by droughts. melbourne is the next stop on their tour tomorrow. the novelist anna burns has become the first northern irish author to wind the man booker prize. she scooped the £50,000 prize for her novel milkman, the tale of young woman being sexually harassed by a powerful man during the troubles. the temperatures said it was "incredibly original". it also makes her the first female winner since 2012, when hilary mantel took the award. that's a summary of the latest bbc news, more at 9:30. thank you for this message on

whether you, as an adult, would be aware if your child was being groomed online, talking about this today because of an nspcc survey which suggest that the big rise in live video streaming and video chats is putting kids at risk, making them really vulnerable to those who want to groom them. this text says, my nephew chat online in his room, and we do trust him, as we have taught him what a dangerous conversation looks like, and to end them straightaway and tell his mother mat ryan dad. he has actually ended a conversation he was suspicious about, and it seemed like strange questions were being asked and he did the right thing. education is the key, and mentioning it in passing once is not enough. their online education is ongoing, like it is for all of us. my youngest son had an internet safety lesson with police officers, and as part of the lesson my son was chatting to a girl

whose age online, and the police officer said, would you like to meet this little girl? of course he said yes, and in walks a male police officer, and my son's george hit the floor, he couldn't believe it, and that was the first lesson about how people can manipulate you online. how would you know if your child was being groomed online? how do you police it? really interesting, such a big issue for parents, isn't it? send us a message on twitter. let's get some sport. 0lly foster is at the bbc sport centre. there were more nations league matches last night, 0lly. things are looking up for wales. yes, who needs gareth bale? they probably could have done with him! 1—0 winners in dublin against the republic of ireland. ryan giggs had asked his young team to learn how to win without bale. 21—year—old harry wilson scored

a great free kick at old trafford in the league cup last month, and this was last night's winner. lining one up, a beauty of a left foot. darren randolph left rooted to the spot. that has lifted them to the top of their group, with just the one match against denmark to play next month. win that and they would be promoted into the top tier of the nations league, and also get into the play—offs for a chance to qualify for euro 2020 through the back door. that's the whole point of this competition, to reduce the number of friendlies in the international break and make games a bit more meaningful. and wales have really embraced it. we set out in this nations league to win the group and then see where it took us. so that's good, that we can do it with one game to go, and now the next thing is to look to win it. it won't be easy, and we've got denmark at home. but the cardiff city stadium will be bouncing, i guarantee that, and we're really looking forward to the challenge now.

so wales on the up — the only way is down at the moment for germany, a terrible world cup and relegation from the top tier of the nations league is now on the cards. the world champions, france, came from behind to beat them at the stade de france last night. toni kroos gave germany the lead from the spot, but antoine griezmann scored twice in the last half—hour. france fielded ten of the team that started the world cup final. germany have now lost six games in a calendar year for the first time. joachim low signed a new deal as head coach just before the world cup, but they couldn't make it out of their group in russia and things haven't improved since the summer. so germany, all sorts of banks, victoria, and hand—wringing going on at the moment regarding their national football team. just under a year away from the

rugby union world cup, some significant matches for the home nations. yes, the autumn internationals are when the southern hemisphere teams tour europe, and a really good gauge for the home nations, but it's particularly important with the world cup coming up. yesterday, wales named their squad, lots of their experienced players coming back into the squad. england are in trouble ahead of matches against south africa, new zealand, japan and australia. eddiejones names his squad tomorrow, and they are dropping like flies — chris robshaw the latest to be ruled out. the harlequins back row has a knee injury. the number eight position is a real headache. no billy vunipola, sam simmonds, and nathan hughes is likely to be suspended. after that unbeatable start to eddiejones‘ reign, they've lost more than they've won this year, and these tests next month could be a really chastening experience for england. they won't get a chance to test themselves against sides of this calibre until they face some of them at the world cup. we will see what squad jones names

tomorrow. that is all the sport for now, back with the headlines later. good morning. i'm actually at the back of our studio right now. because i want to walk into the studio from this point in order to demonstrate to you what walking 20 metres is like, to see how far it is. that is because the 20 metre test is one of the tests that determines the level of personal independence payment, or pip, you get if you are disabled. campaigners with ms are going to protest outside parliament today over claims that more than 9000 have been left trapped in their homes, effectively because they do not qualify for the higher level of the mobility element of pip, which gives them access to a suitable car, because they have been assessed as being able to walk about that distance, about 20 metres. today the ms society is delivering a petition to the department for work and pensions calling for an end to this test. so let's speak tojohn stillets

and dee dee morgan. they both have ms and they were told they didn't qualify for the higher rate of the mobility payment before having that decision overturned. also with us, genevieve edwards from the ms society. thank you very much for coming on the programme. good morning to you. john, tell us about the assessment you had for the mobility element of pip. well, i had the assessment by someone who came to see me, and basically there was at no stage did she ask me to walk, and i explained to her that i couldn't walk without being in severe discomfort any distance at all, but i can make it from one room to the other in our small bungalow. and she wrote whatever she wrote down, but it did not really bear too much resemblance to what i said. right. and you know this woman? what was her expertise?

she was supposedly a doctor. that is what i was told. but it was feared to me, in that respect, they come almost as a reverse commission arrangement. if they can get you rejected, then they almost get a bonus, almost. that is the way i saw it, because there was no logic behind what i had said to her, and i had to go through quite an arduous appeal process to have that overturned. i think she decided you could walk 100 metres. yes, that's right. what was that based on? by telling her that i can only walk, like, five metres. 0k. bizarre, absurd, illogical, deeply frustrating, and presumably quite stressful? it was. it was frustrating because i had thought... well, i had the car, which was an important way of getting to appointments, getting my life together, and being able to carry on working. but when that car had gone

or i had the option to replace it, it was very, very frustrating, financially and... because it takes £30 a week off your benefits, effectively? yes. absolutely. dee dee, at the time you had your assessment, how far would you have been able to walk? i would not have been able to walk any distance without pain. ican... within the confines of my home, i could get from room to room, to the bathroom and back, or to the front door. within the confines of my own home, i know where i can, where there are rails, i know where i can sit. so i would never have to walk that distance inside the home. it is only to get out of the home that it becomes a problem. and in terms of your assessment, what happened ? my assessment, it was a health professional, i believe she was a nurse,

but it was undertaken within my home. i wasn't well at the time. but i didn't feel that i could miss that appointment, because i would be penalised if i missed their appointment, even though i was actually in hospital at the time and i had to come out of hospital for the assessment. were you asked to walk? did you have a conversation about how far you could walk? we did have a conversation, and i explained to the nurse that it would be too painful for me to walk. and so she didn't insist upon me walking, but she did ask for me to walk, and i would have been willing to do so, but at that time i was too ill. and that is because one day you might be able to walk a bit. yes. but with ms, the next day, it might be totally different. absolutely. at that particular time, i was in neuro rehab and had had previously had a relapse, so i was particularly unwell, and so it was obvious from all the doctors' reports

and from the consultant that i really couldn't do what was being asked for me to do. so why were you turned down for the mobility element of pip? it really beggared belief that i was turned down. when i actually tried to appeal the decision, and i saw a copy of the report that was written, it really didn't bear any resemblance to what i had explained and what my carer had explained, what i experience and what i go through on a day—to—day basis with ms. genevieve, what is wrong with the 20 metre test, in your view? it is a completely arbitrary rule. we have asked the government for the evidence for drawing this line, and they have admitted that there is none. under the previous benefit, disability living allowance,

the line was drawn at 50 metres, and there wasn't any evidence for that either. but to draw it at 20 and move people like john and dee dee, who have a progressive condition, if you have qualified under the dla to be moved to pip, and then told you no longer qualify makes absolutely no sense. so we are calling on the government, we have been asking the government to scrap this rule, put it back to 50 metres, and then have a proper thorough look at how you assess people, so that people with ms aren't missing out on vital benefits that keep them independent. too many people have told us that they have been trapped in their homes now as a result of this, and we estimate around 9400 people are in that position now, and it is going to get worse as more people are moved across onto pip. and the reason that you say people are becoming trapped in their homes is because if you lose the higher element, the extra mobility payment,

that means you are not able to avoid a suitable car? yes, that's right. and people have told us that they are making stark choices. they're not able to go and pick their children up from school, they are choosing between heating and eating for example. it is having a terrible impact on people with ms. but also, we estimate it is costing up to £8 million for the nhs, this rule alone, in additional gp and a&e appointments, and that is money the nhs cannot afford. so it doesn't make sense on any level, and all it is doing is drawing an arbitrary line through a group of people who desperately need this help. even if you could walk 20 metres with ms, it doesn't mean that you have got to a bus stop within 20 metres, which would give you access to the world. no, and, you know, absolutely, when we launched this campaign, we asked people with ms what 20 metres meant to them, and a lot of people did videos, just like you have done, showing how far 20 metres gets them.

we launched it with a report in parliament, and i can tell you, it only gets you halfway down the ramp to get into the house of commons. so that leaves you firmly outside the corridors of power. that is why we are taking pipville to westminster today, to show the uk government the impact of this, that it is having on people like john and dee dee. just explain pipville. so, we have three houses to represent pipville, which is a fictional town, population 9400 at the moment, city limits 20 metres. and it is a really stark representation to show the impact that this is having on people's daily lives, and john and dee dee will be joined by several other people with ms to tell this story, really, and we really hope that politicians will come and have a look, come and talk to people with ms, and take a different view. because ms is hard enough, it shouldn't be made harder by a system that makes no sense.

both of you, you appealled against a decision and both won, which tells you what, john? well, that the right people saw the real result or... the reality. the reality of what... my condition, if you like. whereas the first one didn't really bear any resemblance to what i was saying. and when you find out you have overturned it successfully, what was your reaction, how do you respond? well, i was relieved, but i didn't feel like i should have had to go through that experience to begin with. i was eligible, i do have ms, it is a very chronic condition. it is incurable and, you know, when someone is being assessed, all their circumstances should be taken into consideration, and the person that is assessing the person with ms should have some knowledge

about the condition and how it impacts people, their care needs and their mobility needs. thank you so much for talking to us before the protest of parliament. thank you very much. thank you. thank you. we asked someone from the department for work and pensions to come on, but they declined. in a statement they said, "pip is targeting support on those with the greatest needs, and 52% of people who have multiple sclerosis recorded as their primary disabling condition are in receipt of the highest rate of support, compared to 39% under the previous dla system." thank you for your messages on this. badly drawn roy says, it is not widely known that the test actually asks how far a claimant can walk safely. so without risk of falling

over 01’ safely. so without risk of falling over or having a heart attack, and most importantly in a reasonable time without having to rest or causing severe pain. assessors as cal fire claimants can walk without those important caveats, and then people answer the wrong question honestly. the appeals process has said that a reasonable time is twice the time and able—bodied person would take, many people can walk 20 metres slowly, bringing acute pain, but they are wrongly deemed to have failed to meet the criteria. as for the reduction from 50 metres to 20 metres, all i can say is typical. stephen says this is a big problem, my husband has total renal failure and has difficulties walking, he is fighting to get pip, the government have got the programme is wrong. emma says, and twitter, applying for pip for my 16—year—old, it is taking forever, no idea when the dwp will get around to assessing her, the system is failing our most vulnerable on every level. thank you for those coming keep them coming if you watch itv 2's love island you'll know that it portrays a certain type of body image.

the recent series of love island had a daily audience of almost five million people, and gave itv2 its biggest ever audience. well, an advert shown during the most recent series of the show has now been banned by the advertising standards authority. the ad from the company mya showed these images of young women posing, dancing and laughing around a swimming pool, on a beach and on a boat, with a voiceover saying "these girls had breast enlargements with mya and all feel amazing." the advertising standards authority said the advert was irresponsible and harmful. the asa received 17 complaints, one from the mental helath foundation. their director, isabella goldie, she's in glasgow. why did you complain about it? well, i think it's probably no surprise to anyone that something particular is happening round young people's mental health at the moment, particularly young women. so we were

concerned particularly, the way the advert wasn't just portraying concerned particularly, the way the advert wasn'tjust portraying this idealistic view of the unachievable perfection but also the add vefrt asks people to, you know, suggest it isa asks people to, you know, suggest it is a movement to join, there are thousands of women like you that have had breast enlarge, why not join. so it norm lose hiss really, cosmetic surgery in a way i think is harmful. we do know that body imam is one of the biggest concerns that young people have round mental health. we did a survey for our awareness week and young people said body image was a key factor. 0ver half said they felt so stressed they felt overwhelmed as a result of worries about their body image. sorry to interrupt. what did you any of the tone of the ad? well i think the tone of the ad very much suggested that if you wanted to be pa rt suggested that if you wanted to be part of this elite group, you wanted

to be happy, successful, then, you know, you wanted to be popular, then you had to have breast enlargement. i think there is that myth going round society at the moment, for young people, that pressure on young people, i mean, there's a lot of adverts not just people, i mean, there's a lot of adverts notjust this one particular adverts notjust this one particular advert but this one particular advert but this one particular advert was blatant in that respect. 0k, satisfied now it is banned? delighted. i think will start a whole dialogue on earthical advertising from here on in. we no longer have any debate about advertising and issues that affect physical health but we have that round mental health. let us see what mya says. mya says that the ads been running 15 months and was cleared by clearcast, the organisation which pre—approves tv advertising. — although we would rather not have any complaints, the proportion and number is small

in this context, and the timing appears to have been linked to the attention from the tv show love island. — we believe that our services make a positive difference to peoples' lives. we carry out a range of health and suitability checks and we do not operate on anyone under the age of 18. itv says they acted in compliance with the bcap code and scheduling rules and neither itv nor love island are mentioned in this ruling. still to come. it's crunch moment for brexit negotiations. with the european council meeting tomorrow, the irish border remains the main sticking point in the talks. we'll speak to people on both sides of the debate. teaching children how to avoid dog bites — so say mps, as children under nine are the age group most likely to be teaching children how to avoid dog bites — so say mps, as children under nine are the age group most likely to be bitten by a dog. we'll be joined by the mother of a child who was bitten in the face by a husky. time for the latest news — here'sjoanna. theresa may is expected to urge other eu leaders to give ground on the issue of the irish border, when she addresses them in brussels later. the two sides are struggling to agree on how to prevent the return of physical customs checks on the border after brexit. the eu says it's up to the uk

to bring new ideas to the table. the us secretary of state, mike pompeo is in turkey to discuss the disappearance of a saudi journalist with officials. jamal khashoggi is feared to have been murdered inside the saudi consulate in istanbul. president trump has defended the authorities in riyadh, claiming they are being treated as "guilty until proven innocent". rail passengers are facing major disruption on routes in and out of london paddington station. there were long queues at reading due to the cancellation of all services running between slough and paddington after overhead electric cables were damaged at ealing. trains between paddington and heathrow airport are also not running. network rail said services are likely to be affected all day. the duke and duchess of sussex have spent a second day touring australia on their first official royal visit. they arrived in new south wales but had the show stolen from them by a young boy who took rather a shine to the royal couple. ignoring the royal protocol of a formal handshake, the five—year—old stepped in and hugged both meghan and harry. that's a summary of

the latest bbc news. i think that so adorable, i might be getting old! here's some sport now with 0lly foster. wales have gone top of their nation's league group after beating the republic of ireland 1—0 in dublin. harry wilson scored that fantastic free—kick in the second half. another defeat for germany leaves them bottom of their group. france came from we hind to win 2—1 thanks to two goals from griezmann. dereck chisora is going to be managed by his former rival david haye. hey says he can help chisora become world champion too and england's latest one—dayer is due to start in the next half an hour, the tourists are 1—0 up in the series

but it is currently raining. hopefully we will be live there today we've reached perhaps one of the most crucial points of the brexit negotations so far. britain will leave the european union in less than six months. and the prime minister theresa may is travelling to brussels today to try to persuade the leaders of the other 27 countries in the european union to accept her insurance policy on what should happen to the border between n ireland and the republic of ireland. it's called the brexit backstop — here's chris morris to explain what that is. you may have heard about the backstop. it's a baseball term so what does it have to do with brexit? think in terms of a safety net and you get the general idea. the backstop is key to talk overs the future of the irish border, after

brexit. why? because this line between the irish republic and northern ireland will be the only land border between the uk and the european union. that matters for trade, because in theory there should be checks on stuff crossing the border after brexit. but no—one wa nts the border after brexit. but no—one wants new inspections at the border, they bring back memories of 30 years of conflict in northern ireland. checkpoints could become a target. to the uk and the eu hope to agree a trade relationship in the future that keeps the border as open as it is now. but if they can't, or there is now. but if they can't, or there isa is now. but if they can't, or there is a delay, that is where the backstop comes in, it is a legal guarantee to avoid a hard border, under all circumstances. the trouble is, the uk and the eu don't see eye to eye on how the backstop should work. the uk says the eu's version could undermine the union between northern ireland and great britain. the eu says the uk's plan could damage the integrity of

its economic area, the single market. for both sides, these are really important principles, so they are looking for a compromise before time runs out. the backstop has to be part of the withdrawal agreement, that needs to be signed before brexit is due to happen in march 2019. and without a backstop, there would be no brexit deal at all. and without a backstop, there would be no brexit deal at all. now we can talk to our assistant political editor, norman smith from westminster and our europe correspondent, damian grammaticus who's in brussels. talk us through the day, norman. so, mrs may will arrive in brussels this afternoon, she has a quick meeting with the president of the european council donald tusk and then she makes her big pitch to eu leaders before dinner, and you have to say doesn't sound like she has much new to say, in fact doesn't seem much new to say, in fact doesn't seem like she has a plan at the moment, after her original proposals on the backstop were pretty much

pushed to one side by the eu, and so the strategy in downing street now seems to be to hope that eu leaders will basically cut mrs may some slack, they will recognise the difficulties she has got the political pressure she is under, the compromises she has already made and will accept her basic case she cannot give any more ground on top of that there is a hope that eu leaders will start to think, you know what, we really don't want no deal so maybe we ought to try and give mrs may something, and lastly i think will is a hope of sheer blooming weariness at the end of the day leaders will think for goodness' sake let us just do a deal. however it won't be today, it may well not be november and we could go right to the buffers be of the end of the year, before we get to that point, if we get to that point. thank you norman. damian what is the mood among the eu leaders there?|j think mood among the eu leaders there?”

think to pick up from what norman was saying the eu leaders will be saying we want a deal to, we have been talking about thissish issue since december last year and they will be saying in december theresa may agreed and had, and it is writing in what is called the joint report from december, that sort of interim agreement to get here, there would be this plan for northern ireland, that northern ireland would stay under eu customs and single market rules and now the uk is trying to wriggle out of that, wants a time limit imposed on customs arrangementings in the future and the eu side will say i think you can't have a time limit, that would be useless because it could expire and we need something that will endure, what they will be saying is and donald tusk will say to her, is you need to come up with another concrete proposal to move this forward , concrete proposal to move this forward, and then, the eu leaders will sit with might be mix, he will tell them there has been no decisive progress and the key question for them is do they call a special

summit in november, which is what they were hoping to do to sign everything off and that would be the end of it. that special summit could i'iow end of it. that special summit could now be to start planning for a complete collapse and for a no deal, or they could just say there is no need for a summit and either one of those things is not good news for the uk, so they will say negotiations have to get back on track an theresa may has to do something to put the sort of impetus backin something to put the sort of impetus back in to the talks. new fact, that is the phrase that has been used. thank you. let's talk to grainne mellon — a lawyer who campaigns for a group called derry girls against borders, also — mark mcloskey — a business owner with shop branches on both sides of the border between northern ireland and the republic, david hoey a brexit supporter from belfast who thinks the border issue has been exaggerated, and bronach crabtree — who's training to become a teacher in belfast, also campaigning against any new border. plus conservative mp chris green, who resigned from the government injuly in protest at mrs may may's chequers deal.

he wants to avoid a hard border. you grew up in northern ireland, not farfrom you grew up in northern ireland, not far from the you grew up in northern ireland, not farfrom the border, you studied in northern ireland, just explain why the border issue is such a sensitive issue. it is such an important issue for our generation because we have grown up for our generation because we have grown up with 20 years of peace, and of course before that there was a difficult protracted and vicious conflict, and for us our lives have been transformed, we have lived totally different lives compared to our parents and we have been able to move freely acoiz island and back and fort, that is a quality of life we enjoy but more than that, we are concerned about the peace process and about any backwards steps on this, what we consider to be a fragile peace and we want to keep working together, to try and improve things in northern ireland and not risk going back. and the significance of the border is it was a target, there was infrastructure there that was a target there for

dissidents. yes the border has largely driven the conflict or at least contributed significantly to it, and in northern ireland, the central issue is always one of identity and the border really represents that for people, which is why it is so sensitive. where are you on this as a conservative mp who is is not a fan of the chequers deal. it is about the border today. i agree wholeheartedly, we don't wa nt i agree wholeheartedly, we don't want a return of a hard border we wa nt want a return of a hard border we want the relationship between the north and south to be as seamless as possible but we wanted northern ireland to have the same deal that the rest of the united kingdom have, we ought not to be saying on the one hand no border between north and south and yet we will be comfortable with a border between northern ireland and great britain. which is the suggestion from the eu to get round the keeping the border as it is now, invisible. mark, you run a small business, with branch on both sides of the border, what would potential border checks mean for your business, just tell the

audience? they were going to be a serious implications in our business, you know, we have a store in derry, our warehouse business, you know, we have a store in derry, ourwarehouse is elsewhere, everything is processed, and if we had stop there, is there going to be taxes on that, will there be delays on getting stock in from dover, a lot of suppliers come through, we don't know, it is the uncertainty what is the problem? we knew what the answers were we could plan for it, but there is no answers at the moment. if there were to be border checks, and nobody wants that, but if there were to be border check, they would only last a couple of minute, would it have an impact on your business? yes, definitely it would have an impact. 0ur on your business? yes, definitely it would have an impact. our customers travel freely between north and south, a numberof travel freely between north and south, a number of year, a long time ago when i was fairly young, i have been held up at borders, it is not a

nice feeling, to have to go through. you know, intimidation and things like thats it is fairly raw, so it is. david, you, why do you think the whole thing has been overblown?” think it is overblown because this has turned into a political issue rather than practical. at the outset we had the british proposal, the uk proposals was for a technical solution to the border, we had to have a backstop because the eu wouldn't accept that, theresa may then created chequers to deal with then created chequers to deal with the backstop and then the backstop we we re the backstop and then the backstop we were told it could be dwelt electronically which was back to the british proposal so i think there is a lot of politics in play here, rather than practical solutions and we need to get back to what the practical. can i say the irish are perfectly capable of putting a border in place when they want to. during the foot—and—mouth outbreak, when i was crossing the border i had to get out of my car and stamp in

detergent because of the foot—and—mouth danger, and that is in the all ireland agricultural area, so the irish can put a board enwho they want to, i think what we need to do is get away from politics and look at practical issues. i agree we need to get away from politics but a concern that people in northern ireland have is this is being used as a political agenda, it is not about customs or tradeer or about the logistics or how long you might have to way for this is about people, we live shared connected lives and that is something we want to maintain, and that psychological impact has been largely missing from the debate which is why our campaign has been to get ordinary people across the commune aand across the perspective of northern ireland to tell their stories and it has been an inclusive campaign. chris you we re an inclusive campaign. chris you were nodding with davis, as though you think this issue has been overblown? yes, it is a largely

political question, neil cody, head of the irish revenue and john thompson, head of hmrc have said there is no need for the infrastructure on the irish knot and south irish border, there is no need for infrastructure, there are techniques that can be used at the moment, to manage that relationship between north and southment after all there is a in terms of the money used, the legal system, in terms of excise and duty, there is all sorts of borders at the moment. do you buy that? the reality is there is no deal and it has taken a long period of negotiations, we are still waiting and there is no certainty, i think that is what people want as far as possible. that is that is my real concern, i don't think the british government is negotiating effectively with the european union we should be robust in defending that relationship, that is what i wa nt that relationship, that is what i want to hear. it is disappointing to hear the intro where there is

nothing on the table, no movement from either side. we will come back to that. bronagh, thank you for talking to us, you grew up a couple of minutes from the border, how many times a week would you cross that border on average. once a day, if not more. my closest shop, my closest cafe is across the border, as you say, a i live a few minutes away and being only 22 i never experienced a hard border so it is totally alien to me. i can't imagine what it would be like, and to be honest i don't want to have to experience it and the campaign is not just about being experience it and the campaign is notjust about being anti—border or anti—hard border in irelands, it is against a border in the irish sea, we asa against a border in the irish sea, we as a group are campaigning on behalf of the people here, who will behalf of the people here, who will be affected, whether the movement is north and south or east and west

across the scotland or england and wales. the group have come back from brussels where they handed the petition to the british and irish governments, over, and to michel barnier as well. so what, but what are some of the practical things you are some of the practical things you are concerned about when it comes to movement across the border if it was to be slowed down in any way. basically, from my own experience, derry has a large connection with donegal, i am derry has a large connection with donegal, iam not derry has a large connection with donegal, i am not sure if you know the geography of ireland, donegal is next to derry and it is largely cut off from the rest of ireland to do with geography, and there is such a huge connection between the people of derry and donegal and most people if you trace your ancestry back you find out that is where you are from. people have a strong connection with the place, beaches, people travel weekly, if not daily, to donegal, and those areas in ireland, to, for

recreation, for spot, music and as a student it is important for me to be able the travel, freely, freely throughout the uk or ireland, and further on, without any impediment to my travel. i have couragely, i have applied to study in dublin for a short time to do a teaching place. i would hate to think a two—and—a—half hour journey could i would hate to think a two—and—a—half hourjourney could be doubled if there is a hard border. doubled? doubled if there is a hard border. doubled ? where doubled if there is a hard border. doubled? where have you got that from? well, when you hear people talking about the border and whenever they travelled, and if you went on the a saturday afternoon donegal or sunday afternoon there could be 40, 50 cars being stopped and searched. got you. let me bring david back in. go on. sorry, let us look at what we are talking about here in terms of border, we are talking about trade management, we are to talking about people because thatis are to talking about people because that is covered by the common travel area so we are talking about trade

management. in terms of trade management, this is about the practical implementation of a policy that ensures the free flow of goods as faras that ensures the free flow of goods as far as possible. in that terms, that can be done electronically and with practical effect at any border, land or otherwise. you have to look also that yes, there is an issue of the people travelling but that has been taken care of. the vast majority of northern ireland industry is based in the east, and the vast majority of our trade is with the rest of the uk. i think we have to keep that very much in mind, in terms of what we are actually looking at. let me bring mark back in. ithink looking at. let me bring mark back in. i think you had a case recently where you offered a job to someone, in northern ireland, and they refused it because of because of brexit. the uncertainty, yes, with a very good applicant, you know, we offered him the position, he went away and thought about it, because of family and things like that he

doesn't know what is going on down the road. he doesn't know if he can get it paid into his bank account. there is a lot of stuff out there. are they reasonable concerns or does that sound a bit over the top to you? i think they are reasonable. people have to protect their family, their livelihoods, you know, retail is that hard sector at the mini way so is that hard sector at the mini way so it iss is that hard sector at the mini way so it is s and to come out here and work in retail, we rely on people coming from the north, there is shoppers from donegal and vice ve rsa, shoppers from donegal and vice versa, the sterling rate, we reason the border, we have come through adversity many time, so we have come through all that, it is different because it is brexit and the sun tern. we can handle it but the movement of goods and people is not going to be free flowing and it is

wrong for anybody to say that because they don't know the answer, we are moving stock on a daily basis, the van leaves the store, takes it into a shop in derry and if will is going to be... derry is a working class city, so it is s and working class city, so it is s and working class, it doesn't have massive wages and they don't have a lot of disposable income, so increasing by may be 25% on some items they won't be able to shop. what is going to happen? we will end up what is going to happen? we will end up closing, other businesses will end up closing in there, that is a loss ofjobs. ok. final... sorry, chris, very briefly and finally, theresa may is going to brussels, she has nothing new to say to them, what is the point. she could say to brussels, to donald tusk the deal you have offered great britain, make sure it applies to northern ireland as well. don't you think she has already said that? i am not sure she

has, i don't think she has moved from chequers. she is not moving from chequers. she is not moving from chequers? salzburg should have been the death knell. i hope the cabinet rally behind her support a canada cabinet rally behind her support a ca na da style cabinet rally behind her support a canada style deal. the text offer and make sure it applies to the whole of the united kingdom. that wouldn't keep the border invisible. let us not go over all of that again, but thank you so much. thank you all of us, thank you for coming on the programme. coming up... we will ask experts what you can do to protect your child. you might remember our coverage last month of a new leukaemia treatment called car—t therapy soon to be available on the nhs. it was hailed at breakthrough

therapy for a rare type of leukaemia. but four—year—old zac 0liver isn't elligable for it. he would only qualify if he relapsed. he first appeared in the news when we spoke to his mum over a month ago, she told us about their struggle so that leaves us in a really difficult position, where he doesn't meet the cries terrier for car-t. he doesn't meet the cries terrier for car—t. he will have a poor programme notice circumstances we are trying to raise £500,000 to get him, sorry... please don't apologise, it is absolutely fine. trying to raise the money to get him to the us, so we can try car—t therapy, we are

stuck, we are really stuck, and i guess car—t therapy is our lifeline. it is our one hope that, if we treat it right the first time, if we get him the car—t cell therapy, then we could save his life. so, raising that money, when we spoke to hannah she had raised a few thousand pound, sips appearing on the programme she has undertaken a mammoth fundraising problem, raising hundreds of thousands of pounds, she has had help from simon cowell, jermain defoe and this was topped off with anonymous £100,000 donation last night, after hannah's story was featured in the daily mail. hannah, hello. hi, hello. how you doing? very overwhelmed! very happy. to say the least, i think. yeah,

just, we can't say thank you enough really, from, to you guys, forfirst of all, you know, getting us, lets us come on victoria derbyshire to talk to the nation, really, you know, it is notjust our local town, ouro know, it is notjust our local town, our o local county it is the fundraising stretched worldwide, really, and i guess wejust want fundraising stretched worldwide, really, and i guess we just want to say thank you, our son will now be going to philadelphia, and he will be receiving the car—t therapy we set out to achieve, and hopefully we will be coming back with a cured little four—year—old boy, who can start to get his life back, start to go to you know, go to school, and do all those normal things that normal four—year—olds do. all those normal things that normal four-year-olds do. do you have any

idea who the unanimous donor is, obviously you don't, but you must be desperate to know, who has given the £100,000 which meant you have reached the 500,000 pound target.” think, you know, i'm in two minds, one, i would love to find outjust soi one, i would love to find outjust so i could really thank him on a personal level, or her. 0r so i could really thank him on a personal level, or her. or her. they i think personal level, or her. or her. they ithinki personal level, or her. or her. they i think i would like to say. but also, you know, i respect, i represent their wish, you know, they would like to remain anonymous, and that's absolutely fine, we honestly don't want to know if they don't wa nt to don't want to know if they don't want to tell us, we are just absolutely overjoyed, and so thankful, so so thankful because we had an end goal, which was the end of this cycle of chemotherapy and you know, we had another £100,000 to

get, in the next couple of week, so, we, and everywhere had been exhausted. we had exhausted all resources , exhausted. we had exhausted all resources, locally, so we knew that that last one hundreds of thousands was going to be hard, you know, it has already been really hard already but we knew the last push was going to bea but we knew the last push was going to be a challenge, and i think eve ryo ne to be a challenge, and i think everyone is just exhausted, to be a challenge, and i think everyone isjust exhausted, so, although we still need to keep doing some fundraising, at least our family, friends and those around us canjust sit family, friends and those around us can just sit down, and have a drink, and celebrate, you know temporarily, while wejust enjoy and celebrate, you know temporarily, while we just enjoy the fact that you know, we have hit our target and we can get there. and basically it is 500,000 quid in about a month, thatis is 500,000 quid in about a month, that is just extraordinary. i mean you say your family and friends are exhausted but that is from complete

strangers, people are just amazing, aren't they? yes, yes, people are amazing and it goes from, it's literally, it is from someone just throwing a pound in, to a collection box, because they want to, because they want to help, to children emptying their money boxes, to people doing really crazy things, like, zac‘s uncle pushing up a grown man ina like, zac‘s uncle pushing up a grown man in a wheelbarrow, up the wrekin, which is a huge hill, local to us, you know, people have done some crazy things, and people have done some really small cake sales and even raised hundreds and hundreds of pounds from baking, you know, a few ca kes pounds from baking, you know, a few cakes on our local estate and suddenly raised hundred, and that is because people want to, people just wa nt to because people want to, people just want to do it, they want to help. they want to go and buy that cake, they want to go and just contribute

that bit of money, which suddenly developed into hundreds of thousands of pounds. well, listen, hannah, i'm so happy you have reached this target, this, it is the beginning in way because you have to go there next month, see how the treatment works so there is a long way to go, but absolutely, amazing and thank you so much for coming back on the programme and we wish you loves lots of love and luck. thank you everyone. we love you all. thank you. 0k, news and sport on the way, let's bring you the weather first with mati. it has been warm over the last few days, but feeling more like autumn over the next few days, and with that comes the season of mists and mellow fruitfulness, there will be more scenes like this into the weekend in particular. at there this morning, the best of the sunshine to

be found further north, part of scotland, northern ireland in particular, this zone of cloud is mostly high level, so hazy sunshine, but slightly thicker cloud linked to a weather front through south—east england, hampshire, northwards through the home counties, western and northern london, parts of east anglia. that will sit there all day long, showers further north, but largely dry. south—east of that weather front, for the channel islands, kent, essex, you will probably stay dry, temperatures up to 18 degrees. the home counties, north and west london, northwards of that, the sunshine will be there, but bluer skies into northern england, northern ireland and scotland, only passing showers through the day, the breeze not as strong as it was yesterday, so once you have got the sunshine, it certainly feels fairly pleasant for the time of year. now, the breeze will just be enough the time of year. now, the breeze willjust be enough across the northern half of scotland to keep temperatures from dropping away too

much, the weather front is confined to southernmost counties of england with some further drizzle, murky around that, but in between, clear skies, patchy mist and fog, snuggle up, temperatures in rural parts of northern england, scotland and northern ireland close to freezing if not below in one or two areas. a fresh and crisp start to thursday morning, mist and fog clearing, a great start for some across southern counties, brightening up as the cloud breaks up, but almost a beautiful autumn day, temperatures where they should be. no 20s on the chart, 11—16d is your high. as we go through into friday, the coldest conditions across england and wales, some five to start the day will clear through. we may see the odd shower, but showers mainly across scotla nd shower, but showers mainly across scotland and northern ireland, hit and miss across eastern areas, working through, sunshine later, clouding over in northern england

and north wales later, but for most predominantly dry, temperatures creeping up. if you are already thinking about the weekend, cast your memory back to last weekend, a horrendous one for some in england and wales. high pressure close by this weekend, most will stay dry, scotla nd this weekend, most will stay dry, scotland and northern ireland will see this weather front pushing in on saturday night into sunday, bringing some rain into northern england and north wales, but throughout the weekend are still some sunshine around, chilly mornings and morning fog too. bye for now. hello, it's wednesday, it's ten o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire. children are being left vulnerable to abuse, after a dramatic rise in the use of live video chats and online streaming, the nspcc are warning today. the girl actually revealed that it was a man, and he'd been grooming ben, and if he didn't start to act and do things and say things, certain things that he was asking, they would reveal to all his friends that he was gay. that's the shocking

story of a teenage boy who was groomed over skype in his home. would you know if your child or teenager was being groomed online? we'll bring you expert advice in a few minutes time. we're in the brexit endgame. theresa may heads to brussels today for crucial brexit talks. she's urging eu leaders to compromise on the irish border issue. should children be taught how to stay safe around dogs? there are calls from mps for schools to teach classes on how to avoid being attacked. this little girl, seven—year—old mia, was bitten on the face by a neighbour's dog. she's still got the scar. we'll be speaking to her mum about why she wants more to be done to stop other children being hurt. good morning, it's ten o'clock. here's joanna gosling in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the day's news.

theresa may is expected to urge other eu leaders to give ground on the issue of the irish border, when she addresses them in brussels later. the two sides are struggling to agree on how to prevent the return of physical customs checks on the border after brexit. the eu says it's up to the uk to bring new ideas to the table. the us secretary of state, mike pompeo, is in turkey to discuss the disappearance of a saudi journalist with officials. jamal khashoggi is feared to have been murdered inside the saudi consulate in istanbul. president trump has defended the authorities in riyadh, claiming they are being treated as "guilty until proven innocent". an international register of suspected sexual predators in the charity sector is to be set up by the british government. it follows a series of scandals earlier this year involving staff at 0xfam and save the children. £2 million from the aid budget will be spent on the project. the announcement comes as a new report from the charity commission reveals that there is still systemic under—reporting of safeguarding problems. the rate of inflation, the measure of how much prices are rising, fell more than expected

to 2.4% in september. the consumer price index had hit a six—month high of 2.7% in august. the office for national statistics said lower prices for food and non—alcoholic drinks had helped drive the fall. rail passengers are facing major disruption on routes in and out of london paddington station. there were long queues at reading due to the cancellation of all services running between slough and paddington after overhead electric cables were damaged at ealing. trains between paddington and heathrow airport are also not running. network rail said services are likely to be affected all day. campaigners with multiple sclerosis will protest outside parliament today over claims that thousands of people have been left trapped in their homes because they don't qualify for the higher level of the personal independence payment, or pip. to receive the higher level, which gives access to a suitable car, people must demonstrate they cannot walk more than 20 metres. before 2013, when pip replaced disability living allowance, the measure was 50 metres.

today the ms society is delivering a petition to the department for work and pensions calling for an end to what they call the 20 metre test. the duke and duchess of sussex have spent a second day touring australia on their first official royal visit. they arrived in new south wales, but had the show stolen from them by a young boy who took rather a shine to the royal couple. ignoring the protocol of a formal handshake, the five—year—old stepped in and hugged both meghan and harry. that's a summary of the latest bbc news, more at 10:30. thank you very much. good morning, it is nine minutes past ten. do get in touch with us throughout the morning. if you're emailing and are happy for us to contact you, and maybe want to take part in the programme, please include your phone number in your message. let's get some sport now. 0lly foster is at the bbc sport centre. good morning. england's cricketers are playing their third one—day international

today against sri lanka. at least, that's what they hope. the wisdom of touring in monsoon season looks more and more ridiculous. they are one up in the series, but every match on tour has been rain affected, and the start has been delayed in kandy. let's head there now and speak to our reporter henry moran. incredibly frustrating, this. it is, indeed, not least for a significant number of england supporters who have made the journey to sri lanka, such a popular destination to come and watch cricket, but the wisdom of playing this fixture, for this set of fixtures during monsoon season, we have only had 100 overs or so of competitive cricket throughout the entire tour so far, in front of me the enormous blue tarpaulins that have been a familiar sight over the last few weeks, covering the outfield. it is not raining at the moment, a game of cricket is taking place on one of the grass banks at this stadium between some england and sri lanka supporters, but so frustrating, and in a year when england are building up to the world

cup next summer, back in england, they need to make sure they get as many opportunities as is possible to play one—day international cricket. as and when the game gets under way, england will have to make one change, liam dawson out with a side strain, more likely than not tom curran will replace him. but as yet, we don't know when that staff will be. henry moran, thanks, frustrating stuff. i will point you towards the cricket social on 5 live, you can find out through the sport website, all the great and a good talking about all things cricket, except not play yet. that is all the sport for now. we're going to bring you a really shocking story about a teenage boy who was groomed over skype and then blackmailed. it's shocking because of the manipulation involved and shocking because his parents has absolutely no idea. and it's because a surge in the use of video chats and live online streaming among children and teenagers is leaving them vulnerable to grooming,

abuse and blackmail. that's the warning from the nspcc today, which says the government needs to do much more to tackle the danger. the charity has surveyed 40,000 children aged 7—16 and found that a quarter have used video chats or online streaming apps. on video chats, 10% had been asked to remove clothes, and the charity warns that groomers can record the abuse or take screen shots and use it to blackmail. the home secretary has demanded that the big tech companies take online abuse seriously, but what exactly should be done? and could you spot the signs if your child was being groomed online? in a moment, we'll be speaking campaigners, parents and one of the people behind a video streaming app for teenagers, but first, the story of one boy who tried to take his own life after being blackmailed for sexual images that were then shared with five men. his parents told us what happened. we did everything together.

everything. 0n weekends. we've always been a good, close family, a lot of friends. one minute your life's normal, and the next minute the police are knocking on your door, telling you your son's been groomed, and your life's turned upside down. he was really big into sport, very bubbly, outgoing, very good at football. big circle of friends. very popular child. we thought he was on his playstation, just like any normal teenage boy. there were no signs whatsoever. no signs whatsoever. there were obviously nice comments, you know,

"you're a good looking boy", "you're a good looking girl." it was a two—way conversation. and the girl started asking lots of questions about family, ages. where they live. collecting information about the family background. the conversations turned a bit more in—depth. ben decided there's something not right here, so said, "forget it, i'm not interested now, there's something not right." the girl actually revealed that it was a man, and he'd been grooming ben, and if he didn't start to act and do things and say things, certain things that he was asking, they would reveal to all his friends that he was gay. the threats obviously came through skype,

and that's when they made him do...do things. all the time, he wasjust bottling up, because there was nowhere to turn, and then the man then fed the information to other predators, which ended up causing a ring. it was five all together. he never used to come and meet me from work, then all of a sudden he did, but because we're a close knit family, i thought that was really nice. he wasjust coming to have a man to man chat, maybe, just on the walk. mum wasn't about or anything, you know, but i know now he was doing that because the person had threatened if he didn't act or do what they said, then they were going to come and kill me.

we had no idea. no idea. they're very, very clever people. very clever people. they draw them in in a very, very slyly, very clever — they're very intelligent people, clever at what they do, the way they... the way they manipulate people. that's it, manipulate them. at that point he was still scared to tell us, embarrassed or whatever. so he tried to take his own life. they investigated, and they came and knocked on our door, and that's when we found out. they came to tell us, you know, they had a look at his laptop and he was actually being groomed. that's when our life turned around. his dad went to all the interviews. i think he was just too embarrassed

to talk to mum about it, so dad did most of it. we can't talk about it. we've never spoken about it. we don't speak about it. as a family, we couldn't sit in the same room and discuss what has happened. your world falls apart and it's so hard to... to rebuild. to get that back how you were, to a really close, loving, doing everything together. somebody's just grabbed it and took it away. i felt as though i'd failed as a mum. failed, bringing my child up. why didn't i spot it?

why didn't i see what was happening? i can say almost 99% that he will never be the child he was, never. he'sjust a totally different child now, he won't go out, he doesn't play sport any more. it hurts. these platforms need to be made safe for young children. unfortunately, at the minute they're not — they're not safe. there's horrible people out there. when these people come back out, are they going to do it all overagain, to some other innocent child, and ruin someone's complete family? this is why the government need to act. very sobering, very upsetting.

we can speak now to andy burrows from the nspcc. marc—antoine durand who is chief operating officer at the video streaming app yubo, which takes a range of measures to protect children. lorin lafave, who's back with us on the programme. her son breck was killed in 2014 after being groomed online. lorin lafave, who's back with us on the programme. i feel for ifeel for ben, i feel for ben, and ifeel for ben, and i was i feel for ben, and i was clearing up i feel for ben, and i was clearing u p m ostly i feel for ben, and i was clearing up mostly hearing about how guilty the mum feels, because i have that same guilt, and there is a lot of, you know, elements that are very similar, breck would live stream with his predator and his gaming friends, and initially i was worried

that his predator would ask him to doa that his predator would ask him to do a live sex act, and that was one of my concerns, and the work that i have done with the foundation, it continues to grow, the increase of younger and younger children who are speaking with strangers online, and so this is a problem that we do need to address. andy, what are the dangers, then? spell it out, if it is not clear enough from that interview with ben's parents, what are the dangers of live streaming forjordan and teenagers? so when a child is live streaming, they are broadcasting themselves to anyone who could be watching, and because a live stream is inherently visual, that presents real risks, so a child might feel less able to say no to a request that might make them feel uncomfortable. although they can be broadcasting to lots of people, it can really immediate, they may feel a displaced sense of trust if they are talking to the groomer, and once

are talking to the groomer, and once a video has potentially been recorded or a screenshot has been taken, that means that the groomer has an image, they have a video that can be shared or traded with other offenders, and it means, as we saw in ben's case, the child is blackmailed, something that goes on foran blackmailed, something that goes on for an extended period of time. marc—antoine, explain about yubo, for those who want to learn more, what is it, and then we will talk about what features you have introduced with it. yeah, thank you for inviting me. yubo is a social video app with more than 15 million users, and on the app you can make friends with people your age that have the same interest and can share moments with people you discover. the app has been created by a team of ten people, we are a very small company in paris, and ourjob also

is always to protect teens from putting themselves at risk, because we know that live streaming can be really challenging and we make real—time moderations. really challenging and we make real-time moderations. before you talk about the online safety measures, your app was described as tinder 14 is, why? measures, your app was described as tinder14 is, why? at the beginning of the app, there was a swiping function, to make friends, like snapchat, but that was two years ago, and now it is a live streaming app ago, and now it is a live streaming app for discovering friends, so not at all the same thing. and the thing is that teenagers today need to make friends, because they feel more and more lonely using social media, and having their reputation based on performance, likes and comments, so they need to connect with people. so our mission is to allow teenagers to

socialise with other teenagers, open opportunities and break social barriers. so that is what is necessary for teens today, but they need to do it in a safe environment. you said you have ten people in your company, so a small company, despite the popularity of this app — what features are on your app to protect young people? yeah, we have a great engineering team, and we have developed different algorithms to detect nudity and, like, suggestive content, because we know some teenagers can put themselves at risk. for example, when you are doing a live and there is nakedness in the live, the user receives an alert to put their clothes back on. so for example, if a user, a teenager is in underwear or less, we consider that is a risk for them, and we send them an alert. and the results are really good, 80% of

users put their clothes back on after receiving an alert, and that is really interesting, because we know that we can do real—time intervention and change the way that teenagers behave, because sometimes they do not know that they are putting themselves at risk. so that isa putting themselves at risk. so that is a thing that technology can really help us filter content and educate users. lauren, watched you think of that? i think that sounds fab, ifa think of that? i think that sounds fab, if a new company can do that, we need to be but expect that at every tech, social media app would be able to get the sort of measures into play, and we needed. we we're not asking — we need this. when i think of ben's parents speaking, on the live stream it is more natural to open up and save more things that you might not, if you were writing, you might not, if you were writing, you might not, if you were writing, you might stop yourself, think, i had better not give out that information. but in breck‘s case, he felt like he was speaking with a friend, and a lot of the information

that he gave away made it harder, because the predator was gathering information against me, to turn breck against me, to isolate him from me. anything he would pick up one was in that that should give or ta ke one was in that that should give or take chat, and it all came out. which is the nature of grooming, isn't it? andy, lauren makes the point that if a relatively small company like marc—antoine ‘s company can come up with the safety measures, it should not be beyond the realms of twitter with periscope, facebook, to do the same. that is absolutely right, and what we have seen at the nspcc for the la st we have seen at the nspcc for the last decade is that social networks, time and again, don't take the necessary steps to keep children safe. we would like to see the feature that yubo have invented across all social networks. we would like to see live streaming restricted to a child's friends or contacts, so a child has greater control and knows who it is that

they might be talking to or broadcasting to. but the platforms are chosen time and again not to ta ke are chosen time and again not to take the steps that they should to protect children on their sites. that is why we are calling for statutory regulation, the home secretary has signalled that this is his personal mission, to tackle online abuse. we are really clear the only way that children can meaningfully be protected when they go online is if the government does introduce this regulation. ok, well, you know, you sort of get the impression that the big tech companies are in last chance saloon, but perhaps they have been for a while now. marc—antoine, there is another thing you have done, you have two separate communities on yourapp, one have two separate communities on your app, one for those aged 13—17, another for those aged over 18, your app, one for those aged 13—17, anotherfor those aged over 18, so what would stop an 18—year—old getting involved in the 13—17 community yeah, we have created different age gates in the gap to protect our users, so that is something inventive. the thing is that we have developed different technologies, and we're working with

ceop and the nspcc to share knowledge about this. we have developed a lot of techniques and technology to detect fake profiles, and that is also the main thing, the question of identity. the first step is to be able to detect fake profiles with fake pictures, with different tricks used on social media, and the next step for us will be to verify every user, so in the future that is our goal, to make sure that when you are talking with someone, you know it has been certified by the platform, and that is very challenging. and yubo users have to confirm they have parental consent. yeah. i mean, you do not know if they really do, sorry, go on, lauren. we need to get age verification processes in place. there is no reason we couldn't do that through schools, every child in school has to prove their age to attend school, and i've spoken to numerous head teachers that would be

on board to protect their children, to age verified through school with birth certificate information that they have, and also involving the pa rents. they have, and also involving the parents. to me, that would be any easy fix, so that we would know how old everyone was online. marc—antoine, how do you confirm if a teenager has parental consent? the thing is, for age verification, a teenager has parental consent? the thing is, forage verification, it is very challenging, because can you imagine the platform is so many users, if they show their id cards on our platform is hacked, it would bea on our platform is hacked, it would be a disaster, and the thing is that it is very challenging and very expensive to verify everyone's identity. especially for a small social media company, but we are working government and different companies to try to find something interesting to be able to do that, but that is really our will, although technically it is really challenging. i want to end by asking

lauren and andy about advice for pa rents lauren and andy about advice for parents watching now, you know, lauren did know that something was going on with breck and contacted the authorities, ben's parents had no idea — how are we supposed to police this and detect this? no idea — how are we supposed to police this and detect this7m no idea — how are we supposed to police this and detect this? if you area police this and detect this? if you are a parent and concerned about this, the most important thing to do, and it sounds basic, but it is fundamental — have regular conversations with your child. ask them how the day of school 20, which apps. them how the day of school 20, which apps, sites and platforms they are using so you can explore yourself. we have got a great website called net aware when you can look at the most popular sites, understand what the functionality of those platforms looks like. so have regular conversations, then you can make sure that your child knows how to keep themselves safe, so for example thinking about who they might add as a friend or contact, how to make sure they have the highest privacy settings applied, those basic steps

are settings applied, those basic steps a re really settings applied, those basic steps are really important, and it means of something does go wrong, your child knows they can come and talk to you. lots of children will feel really scared if they think that something bad is happening to them, they might feel stigma, embarrassment, really important that you have that trusting relationship so that they know that they can come to you, they are not alone. lauren, what would your advice be? absolutely all of that, but in addition it needs to be taught about in real—life situations, so using breck's story, ben's story — talking about other children, raise the stakes, make it more real. if it is just rules, everyone will blank it, so it needs to be more real and more open, and you know, talking about why we don't want to engage with strangers online, and what could happen, but understanding what healthy relationships apply, pshe life lessons, so important for every child to get through school and at home. thank you all very much.

marc—antoine durand is the chief operating officer of yubo. laurent ru ns operating officer of yubo. laurent runs the breck foundation, thank you, i really appreciate your time, all of you. in a statement, the home office told us, "0nline grooming and child sexual abuse are appalling crimes and this government is working to tackle them." "as well as giving dedicated law enforcement teams an additional £20 million in funding, the home secretary has demanded the technology industry urgently address the changing scale and nature of abuse online." "as part of our determination to support these companies in this work, £250,000 is being made available to support new ideas on how to detect and disrupt live streaming of abuse. " "how far new online harms legislation goes will be informed by the industry's response." and if you need any help or support with any of the issues raised by this story, you can contact bbc actionline on 0800 055 055. still to come. teach children how to avoid dog bites — so say mps, as children under nine are the age group most likely to be bitten by a dog. we'll bejoined by the mum of this little girl

about why she wants more to be done, to stop other children being hurt. the only way is essex star lauren goodger‘s had to deny she's involved in porn after saying she was signing up to a celebrity fan app, notorious for racy pictures. we'll speak to two former big brother contestants about why they use the app. time for the latest news — here'sjoanna with the bbc news headlines this morning. theresa may is expected to urge other eu leaders to give ground on the issue of the irish border, when she addresses them in brussels later. the two sides are struggling to agree on how to prevent the return of physical customs checks on the border after brexit. the eu says it's up to the uk to bring new ideas to the table. the rate of inflation — the measure of how much prices are rising — fell more than expected to 2.4% in september. the consumer price index had hit a six—month high of 2.7% in august. the office for national statistics said lower prices for food and nonalcoholic drinks had helped drive the fall. rail passengers are facing major

disruption on routes in and out of london paddington station. there were long queues at reading due to the cancellation of all services running between slough and paddington after overhead electric cables were damaged at ealing. trains between paddington and heathrow airport are also not running. network rail said services are likely to be affected all day. campaigners with multiple sclerosis will protest outside parliament today over claims that thousands of people have been left trapped in their homes because they don't qualify for the higher level of the personal independence payment — or pip. to receive the higher level, which gives access to a suitable car, people must demonstrate they cannot walk more than 20 metres. before 2013, when pip replaced the disability living allowance, the measure was 50 metres. today the ms society is delivering a petition to the department for work and pensions calling for an end to what they call "the 20 metre test". the duke and duchess of sussex have

spent a second day touring australia on their first official royal visit. they arrived in new south wales but had the show stolen from them by a young boy who took rather a shine to the royal couple. ignoring the royal protocol of a formal handshake, the five—year—old stepped in and hugged both meghan and harry. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. here's some sport now with 0lly foster. these are our headlines this morning. wales have gone top of their nations league group after beating the republic of ireland 1—0 in dublin. harry wilson scored the winner with a second half free—kick. another defeat for germany leaves them bottom of their group. world champions france came from behind to win 2—1, thanks to two goals from antoine griezmann at the stade de france. more rain delays in kandy — the third one day international bewteen sri lanka and england has been delayed, but they are due

to have the toss in the next 15 minutes england are 1—up in the series. british heavyweight boxer derek chisora is going to be maanged by his former rival — david haye. haye says he can help him become world champion. that's all the sport for now. children should be taught how to behave around dogs to avoid being attacked — according to a group of mps. they want animal behvioural experts and charities to come up with canine education plans for schools and parents. yesterday the new boss of the rspca called for animal welfare be included in the school curriculum. statistics have shown that children under the age of nine are more likely than any other age group to end up in hospital after being bitten by a dog; some being left with life—changing injuries. let's speak to nigel reed, who is a dog behaviourist and the author of the dog guardian, a guide to a happy, well—behaved dog, and he's brought along his dog rex, who he re—homed after rex was accused of biting a child.

kerry garforth, whose daughter — now aged eight — was badly bitten on the face by a friend's husky last year. and naomi corbride, the mother of toddler evelynn who was bitten by a jack russell cross — actually the same breed as rex here in the studio, at a pub garden in august. thank you for coming. i will ask you all how you react to this call for some kind of canine education or animal welfare education in schools, what do you say? brilliant, the more education the better, not everybody is going to do thing off their own back so the more information that is fed to the public the better, it is brilliant news today. kerry, what would you say to this call from mps? yes, definitely. my daughter might not have been bitten if she had known, but she knew the dog any way, so... what happened, she'd already

met the dog, it wasn't a stranger if she had known not to put it away from her food she wouldn't have been bit. we are showing your our audience a photograph of the injury. so what happened. it's all right, do you want me to come back to you? it's all right, it's fine. so my friend were looking after my daughter, because i had been to the hospital, and she'd made my little girl's tea so her and herfriend, my friend's little boy were sat at the table eating their tea, and the other owner, the, the dad, he brought the dog home, and i know the dog as well, it went into the dining room, so we were in the living room, and my daughter and the little boy we re and my daughter and the little boy were at the table, eating their tea,

and then, there were a growl growl and then, there were a growl growl and my daughter screamed. it was horrible. it is all right, you don't need to apologise. so we got up and ran in, and the little boyd said the dog's bit her in the face. so we we re dog's bit her in the face. so we were sat there, shaking, holding her face, we took her in the kitchen and could see how bad it was, so we went to the hospital, and went to the hospital to start with and the doctor we saw there just said, i can't deal with it, because it's so bad. you have to go another one to see a surgeon. and then, after the surgeon saw it, he said, there's two things we can do, we can either try and do it while she's awake or we can put her to sleep, so, they explain it, what were going to happen, she decided to stay awake,

so she had herface numbed for about eight or nine injections and then they had to wash it out first, with this fluid, and then she laid there, and had her face this fluid, and then she laid there, and had herface stitched up. this fluid, and then she laid there, and had her face stitched up. that was, i know that was incredibly difficult for you to describe for us, thank you for doing that kerry, i will bring in naomi now, first of all how do you react to this suggestion from a group of mps that some kind of canine education should be taught at school. yes i think it's a brilliant idea, obviously we teach children about stranger awareness, traffic awareness, i think that dog awareness is a good idea. children first instinct is to watch to touch a dog, stroke a dog, go overand watch to touch a dog, stroke a dog, go over and see one, they should be more aware, deferly, of what, how unpredictable some dogs could be. you have got a dog yourself, haven't you... yeah. your daughter is used

to being round an animal, she was bitten by another dog, how did the owner's react? they ran away from us, they picked the dog up, drove away, we tried everything to find them, we contacted the police were involved, it was on bbc news, informs the local 0ak co—all over social media, we have never been able to track them down, so, at the moment, the way that we look at it is the only person that has been punished was our daughter, we have had nothing, nothing at all. not even an apology, as soon as they realised what happened they were gone. nigel, why do some dogs bite? there is lots of reason, one obviously their space being invaded is probably the biggest one. to irresponsible owners which have have had to hearfrom irresponsible owners which have have had to hear from from irresponsible owners which have have had to hearfrom from lady irresponsible owners which have have had to hear from from lady over there, three, their perception to have world their sometimes see things as a threat and if we are not seen to be dealing with the threats

for them, like the postman, the dog thinks who is this guy, what does he want? dog bark, postman walks away, this happens 300 days a year, so you can understand why the postman and dog are natural enemy, it is about the dog thinking it has to do these things or its space being invaded, the dog biting the child, that poor lady, and poor child, that is very rare, but i would say there would be more tell—tale signs of other issues, like, they would say the dog was well behaved but i think there would be other little tell—tale signs there were other problems going on. you took rex on after rex was accused of biting a child, does that mean you don't know if it happened or it did happen?m that mean you don't know if it happened or it did happen? it seems so alien, he had a list of problems but we have a two—year—old and he has shown zero signs. don't all dog owners say that, they say it couldn't be our dog.” owners say that, they say it couldn't be our dog. i think someone who does this for a career can see

tell—tale signs of a dog being stressed in certain environments or using avoidance behaviours of walking away or getting lower, saying i don't want that, tail between the legs or lip lick, they will do signals but management is the key for this one, you know... give us tips because there are plenty of dog owners and people who are not used to animals who would like to know how to behave round them. do not let your child invade a dog's space. always get the child to call the dog into theirs, i say 95% of dog bites happen from a dog's space being invaded. think we have two cases which that might not have been the case today but in my experience it is about the dog's space being invade ands always ask the owner of the dog... is it ok to stroke the dog or come towards it. so those two rules and when it comes to training issue of what other people should be doing, they should be, this project we are talking about is fantastic because it puts

the information out there, so more people can be more aware to avoid this happening in the future. kerry, how is your little girl now? it's weird, she doesn't like talking about it. she won't, if it gets brought up she won't speak, obviously she's scared —— scarred on her face, big dogs, obviously she's scared —— scarred on herface, big dogs, definitely obviously she's scared —— scarred on her face, big dogs, definitely no, anything that resembles a husky, she is terrified. she holds on to me and shake, a small dog, if they don't jump shake, a small dog, if they don't jump and don't bounce, she can walk past a small dog and she's all right. i think i probably struggle more with any dog because ijust think that dog, it was... obviously it was my friend's dog of 20 years, so, i never thought that would happen and! so, i never thought that would happen and i think i've always been quite blase to what dogs can do, it

was because the dog was trying to ta ke was because the dog was trying to take food off mia and she pushed it away, yeah, i don't know, she, she is going go and see a surgeon, in december, just to us have a look at her face december, just to us have a look at herface and... december, just to us have a look at her face and... sure. see if he thinks long—term it will be scarred but she does look in the mirror and say mummy scar's getting better mummy. it is a little bit but it is still there. she is very wear. how old is she now? eight, nine in november. how old is evelyn now and how is she now? two when it happened, she is three now. ours is the opposite, we have a bigger dog, she is ok with big dog, small dog, very wary, especially little ones thatjump very wary, especially little ones that jump because she very wary, especially little ones thatjump because she is at perfect height for them to

thatjump because she is at perfect height forthem tojump thatjump because she is at perfect height for them tojump straight thatjump because she is at perfect height for them to jump straight to her face so she is terrified when they get too close, before all this happened, we never had any issues with night terrors or wetting the bed, she was completely dry, now we do, she has nightmares a lot. when she wakes up she is scared that something is biting her face, the scar on something is biting her face, the scaron her something is biting her face, the scar on her face is still very red, obviously it only happened in august, so it is still very, you can see it, it is very obvious, it is still very dark, it is quite thick, it is quite deep. she has been referred to plastic surgeons as she gets older to see if it stretches, she obviously she had two infections is as well in her face, so the inside of her cheek is still hard from the infection from the antibiotics, she is just from the infection from the antibiotics, she isjust a bit of a mess really. ok, i am gratefulto you both because it has been hard, thank you so much neymary and kerry. nigel thank you and for bringing rex, who has been so well behaved,

that we didn't really know that he was here. so lovely, how old is he? he is an old boy but he was full of behave very issues when i got him, the you get it right you can get a dog that previously bit to become relaxed in every environment. thank you. today theresa may is in brussels for crunch talks on brexit — centering on the irish border issue. well, on our programme we've brought together a group of people — all of whom are affected by brexit and all of whom have different views. we're calling them our brexit bunch. we introduced them to you last month and we'll be following them over the coming months and years. one of those people — sabine voigt — has lived in the uk for 19 years, and has a british partner. we were there as she packed her bags to move back to germany. we have decided to leave the country.

and brexit is a very big reason for it. my partner is, he's a builder, he has been trading very successfully for the last 20 years, and he has now, because of the move, he has closed his company down, he has sold his van and i've resigned from myjob and i'm working my notice at the moment. me being german meant that there was no guarantees to, for either of myself or my partner living in germany or being able to go to germany after brexit, hence we've decided to move now before brexit, so we can secure our rights and interests. after the referendum, it felt like the genie was unleashed. the atmosphere in the country changed and i was made

to feel very unwelcomed, and that is not individual people, individual people have been my friends, work colleagues, they have been absolutely wonderful and i will miss them very very dearly, but the whole country has changed and it does not feel home any more. we were used as pawns in, in a chess game of politics, and it was just about point scoring, and i had so many people say to me, we don't mean you, we absolutely don't mean you, but that, who do they mean?

the polish plumber, the spanish nurse? who do they mean? they do mean me. we'll be catching up other members of our brexit bunch in the coming weeks and months to see how brexit is affecting their lives. unlike sabine, some of them can't wait for the uk to leave the eu. we're going to talk about an adult subject now, so if there are children around you may not want them to tune in. the only way is essex star lauren goodger‘s had to deny she's getting into pornography after saying she planned to sign up to a celebrity fan app called "only fans". it encourages users with a lot of social media followers to charge subscribers for the content they upload — which can

be sexually explicit. lauren goodger claims she "didn't know what she was signing up to" and "would never do porn." our reporterjames waterhouse has been following the story — so what's this site all about and what does it call itself? the site calls it an influencer platform, it is not those who just post sexually explicit content, in the words of the site it gives viewers a behind the scenes look. you have earners who can venture in with a healthy social media following who can charge what they like to subscribers who like to pay. the site says it is not a pawn site, users upload tutorials, or selfies it is up to them what content to post on their pages as long as they own it. they stress there is an age

restriction, it is a subscription service and there is sexual content posted on twitter and there is a premium version of snapchat where users can ask for payment. why was 9°”9 users can ask for payment. why was gong goon gooj go —— lauren goodger talking about. someone said they would like to see more of her and she said she would do that soon. she has clarified her position saying she service and there is sexual content posted on twitter and there isa content posted on twitter and there is a premium version of snapchat where users can ask for payment. why was gong goon gooj go —— lauren goodger talking about. someone said they would like to see more of her and she said she would do that soon. she has clarified her position saying she would never do pawn "i am notjumping saying she would never do pawn "i am not jumping anyone who saying she would never do pawn "i am notjumping anyone who does but it is not something i would want to do. ididn't is not something i would want to do. i didn't realise it was a pawn site." and other stars do it, use it? they do, there is a reality theme. chloe khan, katie salmon from love island and shaun pratt from exxon the beach. he said it is not pa rt exxon the beach. he said it is not part of his life any more though, but what this shows is yet another

revenue stream, another way to make money for reality stars in this case, to sort of dine on their profile. thank you. - let's speak now to two personalities who have have accounts on only fans — they're both former big brother contestants. bex shiner says she uses the site to "tease" her fans, while lewis g openly acknowledges the pictures and videos he shows to his subscribers on only fans are sexual. thank you both of you for coming on the programme. bex, what do you upload? pictures of my boots, simple as that? to be fair, like, i came out of big brother, and it was like, you go and work in tesco or in a normaljob which isn't for me, using my normaljob which isn't for me, using d. normaljob which isn't for me, using my body, i look like a potato in real life so it is like if i can do it, then i think it's, it can give a lot of people good body positive image, to go out and kind of show

your body off to these people, who are going to pay £10 a monthjust your body off to these people, who are going to pay £10 a month just to see a little bit of nip, you know. is it pornography? i don't think i would class myself as doing it as pornography, purely for the fact you know you can call it whatever you want, if you want to call it pornography you can, i don't really ca re pornography you can, i don't really care because i am still going to be going to the bahamas at the end of the money using the money for it. how much do you earn a month? so, between about 3 and 4 grand maybe a monthjust from between about 3 and 4 grand maybe a month just from that but i have other sites as well, but, i mean if people want to see it, i'm going to show them it. this is the earliest just fyi i have got up in year, in the cab my eyes were hurting me from the cab my eyes were hurting me from the sun. ok. well, obviously we are honoured, bex. i mean we are showing a couple of images we can show at this time of day. because if we allowed them to run on, it is you,

with not very many clothes on in sort of bondage type gear? why not? you know what i'm a plus size girl” am just describing it.” you know what i'm a plus size girl” amjust describing it. i love it. i amjust describing it. i love it. i am plus size it is great because i am plus size it is great because i am not skinny and i do better than so many thin plastic models. i'm natural, curvy my belly makes a face when i sit down, i literally smash it, being big. people want to see big girls, so i think it should give confidence to these people, out there, who are literally feeling a bit down about themselves, i am giving confidence to the chubs out there, iam giving confidence to the chubs out there, i am a bit chubby and i think it is fantastic that i can show a bit of nip and people are going to pay for it. lewis, hello. hi. how do you market your site to prospective subscribers? well, i've got a picture of me in the bath on the banner, you know, so, that is my

first little thing, a nice picture for them. and then ijust, you know put it in my bios on the websites and when they see my profile they say he has an only fans. let me sign up say he has an only fans. let me sign up and get content, the average fan can't get. what kind of content do you provide and for how much? so it is very mixed with me, i mean i might be in a really good mood and you know take my top off, have a little picture before the bath you know, maybe in the bath, who knows? imight be know, maybe in the bath, who knows? i might be having a bad here and here is another picture of me i will upload later. i charge about £10 a month, so i like it. right. ok. and is it is pornography? er, iwouldn't call it that. how far do you do? personally, depends on the mood i'm in. iget personally, depends on the mood i'm in. i get a bit racy, i'm not going to lie, you know, so... what does that mean? bear in mind what time of

day we are on. i can see bex is desperate to get on here.” day we are on. i can see bex is desperate to get on here. i would like to talk, sorry. if there is girls that fancy me they will see. i can't describe it. girls, if you wa nt can't describe it. girls, if you want to sign up for it you will see. who suggested it to you? actually my mother, so... i know. my mum would kill me. my mum's a playboy model. shut up! kill me. my mum's a playboy model. shut up i want to meet your mum. so i... we willdo shut up i want to meet your mum. so i...wewilldoa shut up i want to meet your mum. so i... we will do a shoot together lewis. right, so i was actually raised around, you know women naked round me all the day by the pool, it was normal. my mum suggested, why don't you do this, it seems a lot of girls fancy you, i get messages every day, send me a picture of this, that, now! every day, send me a picture of this, that, now i can say sign up to my only fans and it's there. do

you... that's amazing. do you show yourself having sex with other people on this app?” yourself having sex with other people on this app? i don't know, sign up and we will see.” people on this app? i don't know, sign up and we will see. i don't. you don't, do you care what it is called whether people call it pornography or not? no, of course not, you can label anything these days you know, call it whatever you like. ok. thank you both, thank you very much. thanks. thank you. i am going to read messages from you about whether canine education should be, let me read you this statement from only fans. only fans is not a pornography site where users upload tips or selfies. it is up users upload tips or selfies. it is up to them to upload what they want as long as they own it. we had a very emotional interview with the mum ofa very emotional interview with the mum of a little girl —— excuse me,

who was bitten by a dog. sandra says, i have a pug, people with kids or no kids often come to us would we walk assuming she will be fine. not asking if they can stroke the dog and then they start to stroke he my dog is not friendly towards stranger, and quite often my dog sta rts stranger, and quite often my dog starts to bark orjump. people can't assume all dogs are friendly to stranger, parents need to education their kids on how to have contact with pets, even if they look very cute. the way to reduce a tax by dogs is expect more from dog owner, owners should have you to pass a test similartoa driving should have you to pass a test similar to a driving test and be licensed and insured accordingly. it is not a right or necessity to have an animalany more is not a right or necessity to have an animal any more than it is to drive contact with pets, even if they look very cute. the way to reduce a tax by dogs is expect more from dog owner, owners should have you to pass a test

similartoa driving should have you to pass a test similar to a driving test and be licensed and insured accordingly. it is not a right or necessity to have an animalany more is not a right or necessity to have an animal any more than it is to drive but the responsibility is & duty to others are similar, it would mike sense —— make sense to have the knowledge and responsibility. peter says children should be advised by animal, we need to pass a law to protect children from dog, all dogs must wear a muscle in publish, in any vehicle and at any time they are in2 company any vehicle and at any time they are in 2 company of children, even at home. thank you, back tomorrow at nine. bbc news room live is next. have a hello. some of us are going to keep some fairly stubborn cloud, a bit of rain and drizzle, but for many of us, it will brighten up nicely, we have sunshine at the moment and this is the scene at the moment, in belfast, we have the strap wrong there, but you get the idea. lots of sunshine in scotland, northern ireland, through northern around western areas of england and wales, further south and east it remains quite cloudy, some spots of rain through central and southern areas up through central and southern areas up to norfolk, temperatures lower than yesterday, about 13 or 14

degrees in scotland, northern ireland, about 15—17 further south and east. now we keep some of the stubborn cloud in southern areas overnight. that will keep temperatures in double figures but elsewhere, lots of clear spells and chilly into thursday morning, a touch of frost perhaps in northern parts but we saturday on thursday with lots of sunshine. a crisp start to the day for some of us, dry weather across the uk during thursday, maximum temperatures getting 12—16 degrees, more later. bye. you're watching bbc newsroom live. it's eleven o'clock and these are the main stories this morning —

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