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today at 5: the eu says it's ready to extend the transition period post—brexit if that's what the uk wants. the prime minister says she is convinced the uk will secure a good deal and an extension is just an option. we are not standing here proposing an extension to the implementation period. we are working to ensure we have a resolution to the backstop issue in the northern ireland that enables us... which is currently a blockage to completing the deal. the president of the european council says the idea was not discussed at today's summit with eu leaders, but they would be open to the idea. if the uk decided that an extension of the transition period would be helpful to reach a deal, i am sure that the leaders would be ready to consider this positively. we'll be live in brussels shortly. the other main stories on bbc news at 5: the uk and the us pull out of a trade summit with saudi arabia
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following allegations surrounding the disappearance of journalist jamal khashoggi. the murder rate reaches a ten year high — crime figures also show increases in robberies and theft. the extraordinary life of the war correspondent marie colvin is the subject of the new film "a private war", we'll be speaking to the film's director michael heinneman. it's five o'clock. our main story: theresa may is playing down concerns that the post—brexit transition period could be extended. let's cross live to brussels and our presenter, christian fraser. we have known for several days there
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wouldn't be a breakthrough at this european summit, but in the end, theresa may took only half are allocated time in addressing the 27 other eu leaders last night. if they we re other eu leaders last night. if they were frustrated by that, they didn't show it today. there has been a concerted effort on the part of the eu and all 27 leaders to talk and more positive terms than they perhaps did after the results back summit. they recognise that they caused to aretha quite a number of political problems back at home. so, they are hopeful of a deal, even though the november summit, which is pencilled in for the 17th and 18th, remains on ice, pending the negotiations over the next few weeks. the big news here from brussels is that in the realm of this negotiation is the idea that the transition period, or the impairment nation period —— the
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implementation period, could be extended by another year. it is not set in stone and the leaders weren't prepared to talk too much about it today, but it was a question that was posed to the british prime minister. this is an idea that has been around before, i've been asked about it... the potential for the extension in the house of commons previously. i've always been very clear that we negotiated an implementation period with the eu and we negotiated that that implementation period would end at the end of december 2020. what has now emerged is the idea that an option to extend the implementation period could be a further solution to this issue of the backstop in northern ireland. what we are not doing, we are not standing here, proposing an extension to the implementation period. what we are doing is working to ensure we have a solution to the backstop issue in northern ireland, which is currently a blockage to completing the deal, that enables us to get on with concluding a deal that delivers on the vote of the british people and is good for the future of the uk. that initial implementation period
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was 18 months, taking as to december 2020. but there was one more year, we would be up to 2021. does that get round the fate of the irish border and the problem there has beenin border and the problem there has been in this negotiation? no, it doesn't, but it may push it further away and perhaps in that sense, it becomes redundant. certainly, that would be the hope for the british prime minister when she tries to sell it to the various parties back at home. the president of european commission jean claude juncker struck an upbeat tone, raising the prospects of a deal. this prolongation of the transition period probably will happen, it is a good idea. it's not the best idea the two of us we had, but i think that this is giving us some room to prepare the future relationship in the best way possible. i am convinced that under the leadership of donald, we will find a deal. my working assumption is not
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that we will have a no deal. a no deal would be dangerous for britain and for the european union. instead of describing the differences we have, we have to concentrate and to focus on the large number of agreements we have. we will add to this large numberof agreements, the two or three missing elements. it will be done. jean claude juncker picked jean claudejuncker picked up the thread to aretha picked up last night. he said let's not focus on the negatives. —— that to aretha picked up last night. he said we should focus on the positives and he is intent on doing that. as for the transition, we have seen the residence of all sides to talk about it. donald tusk was sure that other european union ‘s would see it favourably. as there is a lot of speculation
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about the length of the transition period around when the uk leads the eu, let me say this. the issue of the length of the transition period was not discussed among the eu 27 leaders yesterday. but let me recall that in her florence speech in september 2017, prime minister may proposed a transition period of around two years and the eu accepted this proposal anonymously. —— unanimously. therefore, if the uk decided that an extension of the transition period would be helped to reach a deal, i am sure that the leaders would be ready to consider it positively. remember that the backstop, the issue causing these problems, is the insurance policy. if there is no future trade agreement, no future partnership, then northern ireland
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would remain in the customs union and the single market, so you wouldn't have the return of a hard border on the island of ireland. does this transition solve that problem? no, it doesn't, it pushes it further away. but if you have three years, plenty well think in this room, it is much easier to get a deal in three years that might be in two years. that is the reason why jean claude juncker says that for now, it is the best plan on the table. joining me now is dick roche, former irish minister for european affairs this is ultimately a issue of sovereignty? it is ultimately an issue of identity politics, which is always the relations between the uk and ireland. some people in the democratic unionist party have a real is you with this. they are concerned about the relationship between northern ireland and the
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union. the fact is that there is absolutely nothing in the discussions that threatens that relationship. that relationship is recognised in the belfast, the good friday agreement. so there is nothing in there. but saying that the unionists will not cut any ice. while i would welcome the idea of extending the transition period, there are still sounds like it is kicking the planet on the road. there is an alternative, but if you look at the crisis over the lisbon treaty in ireland, a number of psychological hurdles that prevented the irish people allowing the treaty to be ratified, there were three big issues. there was the taxation neutrality and the social provisions of the irish constitution. at that time, we sat down with our partners in brussels, we negotiated a series of decorations to say that these issues were not in any way touched by the treaty and that became a protocol. you could address the
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concerns of reasonable unionist people in the north of island by making it clear to them that there is absolutely nothing that is on the table or that is in contemplation thatis table or that is in contemplation that is in any way threatening the position of northern ireland in the united kingdom. you could actually convert that into a protocol and you could attach it to existing treaties orto could attach it to existing treaties or to the withdrawal agreement. basically, what has been happening and who would have thought that the northern ireland position would be the ultimate blockage going forward? basically, i think that there hasn't been enough concern, enough attempt to address the concerns of the unionists. if you do that, if you address their concerns, then you can have a look at the trading relationships on the island of ireland and you can create a relationship which is on that island, which is advantageous to northern ireland, which gives them a fit in both doors. —— defeat in both
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doors. the withdrawal agreement is an agreement in itself, what you are saying is that it could put much firmer language in that document, which addresses the concerns of the dup, talking about the yes you that the backstop is not a back door attempt to try and unite the island of ireland. is that what you're saying? that's exactly it. that is precisely it. to give it if there's a big example... that would give it treaty status? of course it would. if everybody ratifies it, it has treaty status will stop it is international treaties that is, so there is no concern. if you could address the concerns rather than ignoring them, we could make progress. we have had two years in these negotiations so far, and we are ina these negotiations so far, and we are in a situation where britain crashing out of the european union is in nobody's interest. so there
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will be an agreement. the sooner, the better, we get rid of the impediments, the sooner the better we can start talking common sense. the dup with say this is all one—sided. they would say that we are endangering the good friday agreement by not agreeing to a deal that would return a hard border to ireland. couldn't you see it from the dup‘s respective, the good friday agreement was found on the concept of consent and if you put something new into that, you are dabbling with the consent that could bring the crisis back? no, you're not. quite the opposite, if you recognise the realities on which the good front —— good friday agreement we re good front —— good friday agreement were built, if you bring that into the process and make it absolutely clear that those procedures are not in any way threatened, you will address the concerns of the unionists. unfortunately, my belief is, whether in dublin london, there
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hasn't been enough attention paid to this group of unionists, people in the dup who have concerns, they have to be treated with respect and listened to and we have to start offering them alternatives. when you do that, you can start talking about the advantages to all of the people on the island of ireland. those in the north and those in the republic. crashing out and having chaos doesn't suit anybody's agenda at all. it is particularly dangerous for europe, because europe is at something of a political crossroads with all the changes that are occurring left right and centre across europe. we do not need this debate at this time. i think the debate at this time. i think the debate can be answered, there is a precedent there, it is in the lisbon treaty, any protocols, and we could do something similar on this occasion. we could involve unionist people in northern ireland in that. thank you very much for your thoughts. the former irish europe minister who knows one or two things about how these protocols are built.
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when we talk about a transition, you can problem we get that agreed here. the european leaders are broadly in favour of it, but could you sell it back at home. the brexiteers would say, we are tied to the eu for another year, we are tied to the rule that we don't have a say in and we will have to pay a lot of money for the pleasure. we are talking about billions of euros you would have to put in the pot for another year on the transition. let's hear from our political correspondence mac who lives in westminster. how is this going on ms minster? —— how was this going on ms minster? —— how was this going on in westminster? they we re this going on in westminster? they were told to keep cool and calm heads, some of them disagree with that. it has been described to consider at least an extension of the implementation period or transition period as unworkable, an attempt to kick the can down the road and a complete mess full stop labour are also saying that this is proof that theresa may hasn't
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managed to reach any meaningful agreement with the eu. we are joined by the shadow foreign secretary to hear more about their party's position. theresa may said at a press conference there was a real serise press conference there was a real sense around that table with the other eu leaders that a deal can be done. things seem to be looking up in the negotiations. that is interesting to hear, isn't it? their problem is, as it's always been, the conservative party cannot agree amongst themselves about what it is that they want to negotiate. given they can't agree amongst themselves, they can't agree amongst themselves, they can't agree amongst themselves, they can't negotiate with the rest of europe. it has been this way for the last two years, we have been watching a psychodrama and it seems to me we are no closer to the tories deciding what they want and the key point is this, what they are not thinking about is what the country needs. they don't raise their eyes from amongst their own fighting to think about what is good for britain. that is what worries me, we are running out of time as well. she talks about us being able to get a deal and we are hopeful, but what is
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it? if our plan is so great, if chequers really works, then why would she worry about this backstop? the backstop is basically an insurance policy in case chequers doesn't work. they're all fighting against each other about that. that is because nobody really in the heart of hearts believes that chequers will work, because it won't work. that is why the europeans need a backstop and that is why the tories are fighting about it. there isa fairamount tories are fighting about it. there is a fair amount of disagreement within the labour party about the best way forward on brexit, but isn't the prime minister doing what she needs to do and making concessions? she says she is looking for a deal in the national interest. what is in the national interest is what we have been saying which is that we need to be in a customs union, that the baseline and then grafted on top of that, we need to have a free—trade agreement. that is what we should have been doing for the last two years and the tories are incapable of negotiating that. that is the way forward and that is how we look after the economy and
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jobs. that is what is important. if they cannot negotiate, they should get out of the way and let us do it. either by general election or by letting us do the negotiation. but really, we cannot go on like this. they have no idea what they're doing and they are saying, it isjolly, just trust us, no, they we have been trusting them for long enough, we need to move on and we need to get some people around the table who know what they are doing. are you comfortable with dominic raab's letter to the house of commons procedure committee saying that the vote on the final deal should be unequivocal? this is simply part of their thing about saying that we have to accept theresa may's bit of nonsense or we all go off on a cliff together. we all go off on a bridge together. we all go off on a bridge to nowhere, all kind... no, there has to be another way through this pollard would accept it. we won't allow this, we are going to stand firm on this. the case ofjamal khashoggi, the saudi journalist,
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killed. the international trade secretary is not going to a co nfe re nce secretary is not going to a conference and the us appears to be withdrawing its reputation as well. in youreyes, is withdrawing its reputation as well. in your eyes, is the government doing enough to support the investigation to find out what happened? it's taken two weeks for this to be decided and it isn't good enough. it has clearly been a terrible breach of international law and frankly, it is morally wrong. if the saudis are allowed to get away with this, then people will think they can do whatever they like. you cannot get someone into your embassy and then cut them up. some people say, you shouldn't stand up to the saudis, because we might lose your trade. no, there has to come a time when you say, this is simply wrong. the international community should be standing firm on this and should be standing firm on this and should be saying to the saudis, this is unacceptable, we need to know who was responsible and they should be accountable. frankly, given the nature of the saudi regime, it is difficult to believe that this wouldn't have happened without the crown prince knowing about it. i am
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afraid that it is very much from a playbook, from a crown prince who persuaded the lebanese premise come ona persuaded the lebanese premise come on a hunting trip with him, beta—macro, on a hunting trip with him, beta— macro, put on a hunting trip with him, beta—macro, put him on television —— beat him up. it is wrong, we should have been saying so for years. thank you very much for your time. as you heard, in our previous discussion on brexit, plenty of disagreement from the prime minister to come back to when she leaves brussels. thank you very much. just to pick up on one issue that was just discussed, that issue that was just discussed, that is the timetable. we spoke to the vice president of the european parliament and asked how long she needs to be able to ratify a deal and she said that she wouldn't want to be sitting down to her christmas dinner without something on the table. so, from the european climate perspective, they would like something in the next two months. you're watching bbc news. with me on
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the balcony... with me now is david herszenhorn from politico. you have lost your voice at the moment, but i think we can persevere! do you think there is enough positivity in the room to get a deal done? i don't know that there is positivity, but there is still commitment to doing a deal. it hasn't broken down, which is an achievement itself. they are aiming to try and have something that will allow them to call a november summit, if not, there is a december summit, if not, there is a december summit already in the calendar. so, it could be worse, but the clock is ticking. i get the impression that british politicians are not being totally honest with the public. we just heard it being said that we could have a customs union and free—trade agreement and that would work. angela merkel said yesterday in berlin, if you are a third country dealing with the single market, you cannot have truly frictionless trade. which means, you cannot really frictionless trade. which means, you
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ca nnot really a nswer frictionless trade. which means, you cannot really answer the border issue. there is no question about this. in brussels, it seems like it's takes almost three months to digestive issues. we have been saying this for a long time, brexit was about taking back the uk's borders. then it creates a border between northern ireland and ireland. a customs union is not enough to work this out. the eu has a customs union with turkey and there are borders of turkey. so, it has to be a different type of arrangement. from the eu side, that should be a permanent safeguard against their ever should be a permanent safeguard against theirever being should be a permanent safeguard against their ever being a border, something not undermining the good friday agreement. for me, i'm amazed it is on the other way around. the uk demanding that nothing can get away in the way of the belfast woman. “— away in the way of the belfast woman. —— the belfast agreement. so it is simple, if you want a border that creates a problem, we have to
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create something that will give a special status to northern ireland. the dup doesn't want that, and now you're at an impasse. just quickly, that november summit, it is still there in pencil. if there was a breakthrough in the next few weeks, that would be concrete, wood at? that read. donald tusk said he is waiting for word from michel barnier. if he has said there is has beena barnier. if he has said there is has been a significant progress towards clinching a deal, he will call the summit in novemberand he clinching a deal, he will call the summit in november and he will move forward. the question is, can they get around this obstacle or this stand—off on the irish border? it seems they are a little bit further apart than they were before this summit started. we have the added convocation of talking about a longer transition. the eu busy thinks they are doing the uk a favour. the uk by saying, what are you trying to trap us with? so,
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there are... and such is the story of brexit. it is interesting how brexit—lite drowns out everything else. to reason a is staying here in brussels tonight, because there is another summit after this one for the asian leaders. there are 51 heads of state and government that will be here. that represents two thirds of the world's population, two thirds of global gdp and it is a very good foreign indeed the work on trade deals. to reason they will hang around tomorrow, she will meet some of these asian leaders —— theresa may will hang around tomorrow. thank you very much come a question. live from brussels with all the latest on the eu summit. as we've been hearing,
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the international trade secretary liam fox has pulled out of an international investment conference in saudi arabia next week because of concerns about the disappearance of the journalist, jamal khashoggi. the us secretary will also pull out. mike pompeo has returned from a visit to saudi arabia and turkey and he will tell reporters the saudis will be given a few more days to carry out an investigation. we ta ke we take this matter very clearly. they made clear to me that they understand the serious nature of the disappearance of jamal khashoggi. they also assured me that they will conduct a complete and thorough investigation of all of the facts surrounding this situation and that they will do so in a timely fashion. this report will be transparent, for eve ryo ne this report will be transparent, for everyone to ask questions about and
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to be thorough. i told donald trump that we are given a few more days to com plete that we are given a few more days to complete that, so that we have a com plete complete that, so that we have a complete understanding of the facts surrounding that. we can then make decisions about whether the us should respond to the incident. that was mike pompeo, the us secretary of state. the number of murders in england and wales has risen to its highest level for a decade. figures from the office for national statistics show that the overall number of crimes recorded by police has gone up by 9%. our home affairs correspondent danny shaw is with me to explain more. talk us through the figures in some detail. these are figures from the police and they show clearly that in times of serious violence, we are now seeing an extension of the surge that we saw some four years ago. for example, homicide, 719. these are cases of murder, manslaughter. that
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is the highest since 2008. we are also seeing other incidents of violence, violence with injury, 523,000 incidents logged by police full stop that is the highest for 12 yea rs. full stop that is the highest for 12 years. the violence figures were up 19% year on year. we also had steep rises in robbery. that was up some 2296, rises in robbery. that was up some 22%, according to these figures. sexual offences, which were busily driven a lot by the reporting and how money victims are coming forward are up by 18%. the concern for the government is around the serious violence. they say they are putting in the sources, they have a strategy which they lodged six months ago. the best news is that overall offending, that is is broadly stable. the chances of you or me becoming a victim of crime are still pretty low. in the last 12 months, only 20%, the minority of adults,
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fell victim to crime. that is the good news, but clearly most of it is quite bleak. thank you very much. ajury has been retracing the last footsteps of two schoolgirls who were found dead on the south downs, 32 years ago. russell bishop is on trial — for the second time — accused of the murders of nine—year—olds karen hadaway and nicola fellows. he denies the charges. 0ur correspondent helena lee is in brighton. today, the jurors today, thejurors and today, the jurors and judge today, thejurors and judge and also the barristers and court staff were brought from court 16 at the old bailey to hear on the outskirts of brighton, i coach with a police escort this morning. they looked around this area and saw uniformed police officers who were here on standby, so they wouldn't be disturbed as they carried out their jury disturbed as they carried out their
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jury visit. we are standing in a place called wild park and you maybe will to make at the pavilion behind us. will to make at the pavilion behind us. that is the pavilion where the jury us. that is the pavilion where the jury stopped as they went around to see various landmarks in the area. what the barrister said to them, as they stopped about pavilion, he said, behind the grass bank, leading into the woods, is where the two girls, nine years old, were found dead. they said that they had been found huddled together as if they we re found huddled together as if they were sleeping within the undergrowth. the place had been described in court as then looking. thejury were then described in court as then looking. the jury were then taken to various other sites around the area, they we re other sites around the area, they were shown a fish and chip shop not too far from were shown a fish and chip shop not too farfrom here, the girls were shown a fish and chip shop not too far from here, the girls were seen at that fish and chip shop in the afternoon. they went missing on the afternoon. they went missing on the 9th of october, 1986. i don't know if you can make out in the
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distance, a couple of balloons, that isa distance, a couple of balloons, that is a memorial to the two nine—year—old girls. 32 years since they were murdered. thejury nine—year—old girls. 32 years since they were murdered. the jury did walk past that memorial, but they had been told by the judge that they weren't going to stop at the memorial, because it wasn't part of their considerations and that wasn't disrespectful. russell bishop, the defendant, 52 years old, he decided not to come today on this jury visit. thejudge had told not to come today on this jury visit. the judge had told the not to come today on this jury visit. thejudge had told thejury that it was a sensible decision from him and that they mustn't hold that against him. thejury now return back to the old bailey and they will go back to court to resume the trial tomorrow morning. thank you for that update. time for a look at the weather. has it looking louise?
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quiet! it should be quiet tomorrow as well. it is quite quiet across the uk at the moment, some lovely spells of sunshine has been showing up spells of sunshine has been showing up on spells of sunshine has been showing up on our spells of sunshine has been showing up on our weather watchers pictures. i hope you've managed to get out and enjoy some of that throughout the course of today. in fact, there's been quite a lot of well broken cloud. the cloud is thickening and in the last few hours across the extreme north—west. the winds will strengthen overnight, those gusty winds will drive in summer rain. it will be heavy through the western isles, but break up quite grammatically. so we are not looking at that much in the way of a lot of rain. further east, there will be clearer skies and temperatures will fall away into low single figures. a touch of light frost possible. it is a quiet start, there will be some sunshine, any nest orfour a quiet start, there will be some sunshine, any nest or four will be isolated, and it is another promising day for many. that weak weather front by the afternoon is
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just a band of cloud. behind it, cooler, fresher, but sunny conditions. in the south, highs of 17 celsius through the afternoon. it looks likely to be similar over the weekend, more details in half an hour. this is bbc news. the headlines... the prime minister says an option to extend the transition period after the uk leaves the eu could be one option to help solve the issue of the northern ireland border. eu leaders say they are open to the idea. the uk and the us pull out of a trade summit with saudi arabia following allegations surrounding the disappearance of journalist jamal khashoggi. a number of major companies are still planning to go, despite calls for a boycott. the murder rate reaches a ten—year high. crime figures also show increases in robberies and theft. 0verall, recorded crime
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is up nearly 10%. now we can get a look at the latest sports news. good afternoon. injuries, suspensions, and one internatinoal retirement has forced eddiejones into a unfamiliar looking england squad for their four november matches. gloucester number eight ben morgan is included for the first time for three years but there is no place for his club team—mate danny cipriani. in all, jones has named eight uncapped players, but he doesn't think the number of injuries he's had to deal with in this squad points to wider issues within the game. no, i've seen it before. people used to say it in the early 2000s when we got a streak of injuries and people said the game was getting too tough and too critical. we go through these cycles and you have runs, but
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some recent no one knows why it happens, science can't explain it, it happened and it will rectify itself. luke shaw has signed a new five—year contract at manchester united. it's a big turnaround for shaw, who was heavily criticised by boss jose mourinho last season. but he's made the left—back spot his own and is back in the england reckoning, too. he's been rewarded with a new contract worth around £150,000 a week. shaw said... meanwhile, the united manager had this to say... roma fan filippo lombardi has been found not guilty of inflicting grievous bodily harm on a liverpool fan. sean cox was hit outside anfield ahead of the champions league semi—final in april. lombardi was cleared by a jury at
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preston crown court of the assault. but the italian was jailed for three years on a separate charge of violent disorder, which he admitted. former pakistan cricketer danish kaneria has admitted spot—fixing after six years of denial. the leg spinner was banned from playing in england and wales for life, after he was found to have pressured former essex team—mate mervyn westfield into spot—fixing during a game against durham in 2009. westfield was also banned and jailed for four months. kaneria has apologised to westfield, and says he "cannot live a life with lies". 0lympic taekwondo silver medallist lutalo muhammad says the sport is in urgent need of reform, claiming there should be more weight divisions at the games to stop athletes risking serious health problems. muhammad says he has suffered "serious sickness" attempting to reach his 0lympic weight category during his career. there are four per gender at an 0lympics, compared to a combined total of 16 at a world championships. the sport needs reform.
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we need change, we need more weight divisions. because the only reason i and other athletes put themselves in those positions where they can run into problems is because we don't have enough weight divisions. i mean, thejump from welterweight to heavyweight is as crazy as it sounds. can you imagine amir khan, if he didn't make it, having to fight anthonyjoshua? that is literally the difference, and we need to change that. usain bolt has turned down a move to the champions of malta. valletta fc had offered him a two—year deal. the eight—time olympic champion is currently on trial at australia's central coast mariners. he scored two goals in a recent pre—season friendly but so far hasn't been offered a contract. the a league season starts on sunday. that's all the sport for now. you can find more on all those stories on the bbc sport website. that's bbc.co.uk/sport. you can find out the whole of eddie
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jones's england squad. more coming up jones's england squad. more coming up in an hour with 0llie foster. thank you. more now on the brexit negotiations and the prime minister says there's no proposal for an extension to the transition period but it is an option which could help unblock difficulties over northern ireland. mep philippe lamberts is co—chair of the greens/european free alliance. he joins us now from the european commission in brussels. thank you for being with us. what are your latest thoughts on brexit? we heard dong lu .gov saying he thinks there will be a deal and it will be dangerous if there is not one “— will be dangerous if there is not one —— jean—claude juncker. will be dangerous if there is not one -- jean-claude juncker. yes, it is dangerous if there is not a deal but i would not put my entire money
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on having a deal in due time. the outline of the deal is pretty well identified. the uk would stay fully inside the customs union which would solve part of the equation and there would be regulatory checks for goods that move from great britain to northern ireland. this is a must because we need the deep regulatory alignment between northern ireland and the rest, and the republic. we know this is a hard gullit to bite for the dup and i guess this deal will not be presented before the next uk budget is passed towards the end of the month —— hard gullit pulls up but the question is, would such a deal by a majority in westminster? i don't know, within the british government. that is anyone's guess, i really don't know, but the outline is known and has been for quite awhile. 0f but the outline is known and has been for quite awhile. of course, lengthening the transition period increases the probability that by
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the end of the condition they would you will have a free—trade agreement in place that will the irish backstop needless. yet i would doubt that you can really nail down a full—fledged trade agreement in 33 months. experience shows it normally ta kes months. experience shows it normally takes much longer to hammer out such deals and therefore, well it is likely the transition period would be lengthened even further. that again is in the future. what we need now is a withdrawal agreement in order to avoid the cliff edge that would indeed be damaging to the uk but, let's face it can also damaging to the eu 27. you talk about the difficulties of theresa may at westminster and everybody knows that but in your view, do you think an eu deal, a deal with the 27th and britain, is notjust possible but probable? it is hard to gauge. i
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would say that on the eu 27 side, a deal according to the outline i gave you will fly, i have no doubt about it. the question is if there will be enough people putting country before party or even personal power interest in westminster to pass it and that is the crucial question. what i have heard in the various party conferences we have of late is not totally encouraging on that. we know the two big buddies are split on the issue. they are jockeying for power and there was a lot of that happening —— big parties. these are grave times where hard decisions need to be taken. my hunch is there isa need to be taken. my hunch is there is a majority in westminster to pass such a deal but it requires many people to put the country's interests before their own. very good to talk to you, thank you for being with us. we can continue this
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discussion on brexit. let's now go live to larne, where we can speak to sammy wilson, who is the dup‘s brexit spokesperson. thank you for being with us. this whole idea of extending the transition period, is it a good idea? a lot of people in brussels on the eu side seem to think it is, that it would give everybody breathing space and, in the end, might mean we don't really need a backstop because the extension is the backstop. i have no doubt there are many in brussels were rubbing their hands at the prospect of an extension of the time period for a number of reasons. first of all it means that they tie the uk into the customs union and prevent us from doing deals with other parts of the world and being their competitor. secondly, it means they will get more money from the uk in terms of additional payments to the eu because we are there for another
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year. thirdly, it pushes them further towards a general election where they are hoping there will be a change of government and therefore a change of government and therefore a change of policy and the whole referendum result will be reversed. i have no doubt brussels would love such a deal. mrs may would be mad to even such a deal. mrs may would be mad to eve n a cce pt such a deal. mrs may would be mad to even accept or think about such a deal. and in terms of her own party, does she really want to come up to the next election without this issue resolved, with the party being torn apart, her supporters unhappy that we are paying even more money into the eu? it is one sure—fire way for the eu? it is one sure—fire way for the conservatives to lose the next election. you say she would be mad to consider it but the british government clearly are considering the idea of an extension to the transition. what is your latest thinking on whether you support this government if you are so fed up i had premiership? are you prepared to bring down mrs may?|j had premiership? are you prepared to bring down mrs may? i don't think that if the case, it is a case of
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trying to inject some common—sense into the negotiations that we have to undertake. i think that one of the things mrs may as to consider is as she handled negotiations well so far? i don't think she has. how can she get back some control of these negotiations into her own hands, and i think she can do that easily by simply saying to the eu, i tell you what, we want a future trade arrangement with you. until we get that future trade arrangement hammered out, we are guaranteeing you know money from the uk and therefore you will not get your withdrawal agreement until we get an assurance that first of all there is assurance that first of all there is a future trade arrangement and that arrangement covers the whole of the united kingdom and does not separate northern ireland from the rest of the uk. sammy wilson from the dup, thank you forjoining us. as we've been hearing,
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the international trade secretary liam fox has pulled out of an international investment conference in saudi arabia next week because of concerns about the disappearance of the journalist, jamal khashoggi. turkish authorities suspect the saudis killed the dissident writer in istanbul at the start of this month. let's talk to david hearst. he is the editor in chief of news website middle east eye and knew jamal khashoggi well. thank you for being with us. let's talk about him as a journalist first because his last piece has been published in the washington post. does it epitomised what he stood for? yes, and especially the last two paragraphs where he was really calling for the translation of the washington post and new york times in arabic. he was modest and not a dissident, he was a good colleague but he really wanted a minimum
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modicum of free speech in the arab world but particularly his native saudi arabia. his last idea was to try to get the new york times printed in arabic and the washington post as well. as somebody who knew him, whatare post as well. as somebody who knew him, what are your feelings about what happened to him? are you pretty convinced he was murdered in the consulate? yes, unfortunately. the turks have been extremely convinced from day one. they knew he had entered the building but they were certain he was still inside, either alive or dead. they are now at this moment searching woods outside istanbul, a place called belgrade forest, because they identified suspicious movements of one of the va ns suspicious movements of one of the vans with diplomatic plates in that area. they have all the information except the body. are you convinced this was the work of the crown
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prince ultimately? there is one idea that it prince ultimately? there is one idea thatitis prince ultimately? there is one idea that it is going to be suggested by the saudis that this was some sort of interrogation that went wrong and got out of hand and he died accidentally effectively. there are two problems with that theory. 0ne is that at least seven of the named alleged murder squad came from the crown prince's personal detail. not only that, three of them turned up in london on the last visit of the crown prince and another two turned up crown prince and another two turned up in paris. these are named to people with known faces and they turned up, and that is one detail. the second is that the doctor that accompanied this squad was a specialist in cutting up dead bodies very quickly. if you're going to kidnapa very quickly. if you're going to kidnap a dissident, you would possibly expect an anaesthetist
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there, not a forensic pathologist. what do you make of the international reaction, particularly the american reaction? we have heard mike pompeo think this afternoon that saudi arabia needs a few more days to complete its investigation. from what you are saying, we pretty much know what happened? well, yes, and whether there is any cooperation going on between the turks and the saudis is open to doubt. just before the forensic team entered the consulate, there were redecorated their quickly painting over the traces. it did not work because the turks told me they now have forensic evidence from within the consulate. they have not been specific but they are confident they have it. i think it isa are confident they have it. i think it is a desperate playing for time. i think the american media have done
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a fantasticjob on this, they have got their teeth into it. he was a virginia resident and he was a columnist of the washington post and what has happened in america is everybody has turned on this carefully created image of mohammad bin salman being a young, bold reformer. good to talk to you, thank you very much. you're watching bbc news, the latest headlines... the prime minister says an option to extend the transition period after the uk leaves the eu could be one option to help solve the issue of the northern ireland border. the uk and us pull out of a trade summit with saudi arabia following allegations surrounding the disappearance of journalist jamal khashoggi. the murder rate reaches a ten year high — crime figures also show increases in robberies and theft.
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six years ago, one of the most famous war correspondents of her generation, marie colvin, was killed in a rocket strike in homs in syria. by her side was the war photographer, and friend, paul conroy, who was badly injured in the attack. homs was being besieged by the syrian army, and the pair had remained in the city, in appalling conditions, to tell the story of the men, women and children who were trapped. tonight, director matthew heineman's dramatic biopic of marie's final days in syria debuts at the london film festival. i'll be talking to him in a moment, but first let's have a look at a clip from the film. there's an assault coming and we need to go now. now, now, now! stop.
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what are you doing? i've got to go back. there are 28,000 people there, we can't abandon them. listened to me! you're brilliant, and brave and you've got an amazing nose for a story, but you don't have a military brain, all right? hey, hey, hey! let me go! we will die if we go back. 0k? die. you go. no. save me a seat at the bar. which bar? where? marie! come on, come here. and matthew heineman, the director of a private war, is with me now. she was an extraordinaryjournalist, incredibly brave and wrote incredibly brave and wrote incredibly powerful articles but why did you want to make a film about her, specifically? my background is
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in document the film and i have made films on the mexican drug wars, on isis, andi films on the mexican drug wars, on isis, and i felt films on the mexican drug wars, on isis, and ifelt that films on the mexican drug wars, on isis, and i felt that same draw to cover these stories as she did. i think i wanted to explore what it ta kes to think i wanted to explore what it takes to tell these stories and what it did to her mentally and physically. also, in this day and age, where, at least in my country, journalism is under attack, it is so important to celebrate it. in some senses, the film is a high marsh both to marie and alter the importance of journalism in both to marie and alter the importance ofjournalism in this world of fake news —— a homage. importance ofjournalism in this world of fake news -- a homage. what made her keep going back to these war zones, made her keep going back to these war zones, these incredibly dangerous places where she was risking her life not just dangerous places where she was risking her life notjust once or twice but time and again through her career. i think many things. i think she felt a huge duty to put a human face to conflict around the world.
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she was not necessarily interested in the geopolitical context of these wars. she felt herjob was to give voice to the voiceless, to shed light on dark corners of the world, stories that were not being told. i think she felt this deep need to do so. at great personal cost. you called it a private war, why? what does the title mean? you knew her, she was an amazing, larger than life, charismatic, beautiful and courageous person but i think she suffered from all she saw. in some sense of the film is also an exploration of ptsd, of all the things that she saw and she battled with personally. she suffered from that and yet she wanted to keep going back. people suggested that maybe correspondence like that
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almost become addicted to the danger and the drive to go and tell the store —— correspondeds. and the drive to go and tell the store -- correspondeds. that is one of the amazing things about her, i don't think she was addicted to the thrill or adrenaline. i think she felt fear, she felt scared, she did not love being on the front lines but she felt truly compal is to tell these stories. there were many opportunities to get out of the game and she kept going —— truly compelled. she was such a striking figure, particularly as we can see in the picture, she lost an eye and she had the pats, she was a dramatic figure. completely will stop -- the eye patch. 0n figure. completely will stop -- the eye patch. on one hand she could light upa eye patch. on one hand she could light up a room in a party at london and the next day be challenging colonel gaddafi in libya. she was an amazing woman. do you think sometimes she went to these war
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zones, like syria where she tragically lost her life, to escape some of the demons that she had in her head? i think yes. in some senses, war was her sanctuary pulse it isa senses, war was her sanctuary pulse it is a bit cliched but i think that was true. but she also had a lovely life here, lovely friends, a great life here, lovely friends, a great life as well. she wanted a family andi life as well. she wanted a family and i think in some senses she wa nted and i think in some senses she wanted a normal life and that was one of the tragedies of the film, there was this unattainable goal of having normalcy because she kept getting pulled back and pulled back to go and tell the stories. getting pulled back and pulled back to go and tell the storieslj getting pulled back and pulled back to go and tell the stories. i wonder what she would have made of her life being made into a biopic?” what she would have made of her life being made into a biopic? i think she would probably laugh! but in some ways, i think the film carries on her work. in a sense, it
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continues shedding light on these stories. in these discussions about war, it is often political football being thrown back and forth and it is so easy to forget the innocent civilians that are caught in the crossfire. she died covering the siege of homs. i think she would be absolutely horrified that the conflict has continued and president assad is still in power and 500,000 civilians have been killed since she was. i think she would be horrified at the state of the world right now. very good to talk to you and good luck with the movie, matthew heineman, director of the i picked on marie colburn. when is it actually out? —— of the biopic on marie colvin. it is in theatres in
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the us in early november and later in the year in the uk. great, thank you for coming in. have you ever been to a pop concert and been so far back you can't see the band? music artists are increasingly finding innovative ways to bring their shows to life and make sure nobody has a bad view. one of the bands pioneering this approach is the rock group u2. mark savage has more. # in the name of love... four musicians, 17,000 fans. so, how do you make sure everyone gets a good view? u2‘s answer is to build a one—of—a—kind, double—sided video screen that's almost 30 metres long. and they don'tjust project their faces on it — they climb inside. it's a very expensive way of getting from that big stage down to this little one down here! the band's bassist, adam clayton, showed me how it all works. so everybody has the best seat in the house, is that the idea? yeah, the idea was, if we divide it down the centre then all these people are close to you when you're in the middle.
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and then, when you get onto this stage, you're actually performing to the people down this end. this end is much more like a club gig, this is much more like down and dirty, and the other end's a bit more formal! which do you prefer? i like down and dirty! when u2 first started playing the clubs around dublin in the 1970s, a show of this scale and complexity would have been unimaginable. but what does all this technology and choreography mean for the relationship between the band and their audience? coldplay‘s fans become part of the show with wristbands that light up in time to the music, while madonna and beyonce play with iconography and messages of empowerment. but it all starts from the same premise. the magic act is just to shrink the venue, make it disappear. what's the fastest route to proximity with our audience? now we have to use a lot of technology to serve that end. but it's the same thought which is,
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is there a place in this show where people have a bad seat? that's where we're going to camp, right there. do you think, though, that stops you from being a spontaneous live band? yes. i mean, maybe, i don't know for you, for me, i do have to hit some marks and i did find that constraining at some point, but then, like a theatre production, i think every night's different anyway, even with the same script. u2‘s stage was designed in london by a firm of architects whose other clients include lady gaga, beyonce and the rolling stones. so, this is the beyonce and jay—z stage from this summer? that's right. they say audiences can expect even more innovation in the next few years. i think arms race is a very good description of it because it's one—upmanship. everybody is rushing out to impress the audience. screens get bigger, brighter, cheaper and lighter.
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we can now offer things up which are much bigger that three years ago would have been impossible because the technology did not exist. technology like this comes at a cost and, across the industry, ticket prices are at an all—time high. but for u2‘s fans, even the cheap seats now come with a view. mark savage, bbc news, amsterdam. a look at the weather now with louise. not quite as impressive but beautiful, this was north yorkshire this afternoon on a glorious day with a lot of sunshine and you can see from the satellite, that has been indicative across most of the country apart from the far north—west. there is a front bringing in rain to scotland overnight as the winds strengthen ahead of it. up to 45 mph. some rain pushing into the western isles by dawn. we keep temperatures in double
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digits here but elsewhere under clearer skies single figures and a bit of light frost. the high pressure is still with us as it has been for a few days and it stays with england and wales heading into the weekend. it allows these weather fronts to move in from the atlantic and we will have a spell of rain in western scotland. it will weaken so not all of scotland will see it but a blanket of cloud pushing across the borders into northern england and through northern ireland. 12—13d with zanni expels behind, 17 the highest in the south—east —— sunny spells. we could have some fog first thing on saturday. unlike the last couple of mornings, there is the potential for it to lift slowly and it might lift into low cloud for a few spots so that is worth bearing in mind that hopefully much of england and wales will be dry and sunny again but a few showers in the north—west of scotland again. 1a
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degrees here, eastern scotland could see some warmth, 17 degrees, 17 or 18 in the south—east. going into sunday, not much change and a subtle one with the high pressure moving further south and this weather front moving in and it will introduce more rain into scotland and northern england and maybe north wales by the end of the day was if there is not much rain, more cloud in the second half of the weekend. the highest values on sunday afternoon looked to be between 11 and 17 degrees. that is it, enjoy your weekend. criticised for suggesting we could remain tied to the eu
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for longer than planned. at the summit in brussels, theresa may indictates theresa may indicates she would consider an extension to the transition period, in order to reach a deal. we are not promoting an extension to the fermentation period, we are working to ensure we have a solution to the backstop problem in northern ireland which is currently a blockage to completing the deal. the eu says it's open to the idea, but mps at westminister say it will cost britain billions. also tonight: the number of murders in england and wales has risen to its highest level for ten years. pressure intensifies on saudi arabia over the suspected killing of a journalist, as america, britain,

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