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giles, do you want to kick off with the front of the eye? no deal looms after impact in brussels.” the front of the eye? no deal looms after impact in brussels. i don't know why we are surprised. all you note —— talks go down to the wire. it was never going to be easy but i think there is a problem with the narrative for the government. they also need a deal. there are thousands of the eu business is financed out of london, so i think the whole thing about theresa may will not get a deal, i think she probably you believe that well. i think it'll take a while. we had to hold our nerve, we have to have a pokerface going to rip up a story up pokerface going to rip up a story up gas hysteria people need to ignore. i think we will get there but it will take time. ultimately the negotiations that should be dictated by substance not agile as we get through. what do you think? i think that is a little complacent to be honest. i share the view that at the end of the day there is always a deal in the european union and it goes to the wire and they stay up all night and they have come out bleary—eyed and they have some sort of deal, but it started to look much
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more serious than people thought even those people likely who thought we would get to some sort of deal. and the focus now has shifted very much back to westminster. i think there is the degree of exasperation, be willed or meant in brussels about the other leaders of the 27 countries. i think it was the lithuanian president was that after the summit we don't know what they want, but they don't know what they want, but they don't know what they want, talking about the british and thatis want, talking about the british and that is the problem. so we have the other european leaders trying to help, the mood language, the body language and mood music suggested they wanted to help but they're not quite sure what they're supposed to be helping with. the focus is very much back in westminster and there of course is where they have no majority for any kind of deal that she might come back with and if it isa she might come back with and if it is a fudge and involves an extended transition period she is losing friends left right and centre. she is but i don't buy the argument she will be the... labour are trying to
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base both ways, you havejeremy corbyn and london saying maybe we'll have another referendum. you have them in the north saying the believed constituencies will go out. for the tory party this is the big calculation. you remove many, —— you are theresa may you may trigger a general election in the back door to ajeremy cover general election in the back door to a jeremy cover —— jeremy corbyn government. a lot of the people that voted for brexit, this is their life work. is there a replacement waiting in the wings, a good option? who wa nts to ta ke in the wings, a good option? who wants to take over now? we are in the middle of the most difficult, complex, unprecedented negotiations over the past 50 years. a bit of a poisoned chalice. i think boris has almost become the tory‘s david miliband. he keeps marching top of the hill and marching down again, has not got the guts to do it. i think no one wants to take over until we get through it. if she does then yes, i think possibly she is toast and someone will take over but at the moment no one wants to touch it. turning to the independent. this
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story keeps going on and we are hearing the latest from the president saying he believes that the saudi journalist jamal khashoggi is dead. this is but lead on the front of the independent and you have this cctv image of the possible leader, i think there was the idea that there were 50 men involved in this alleged assassination. what do you think the best? i think it is clear now that he is dead, and the we st clear now that he is dead, and the west has to work out how it is going to respond. this is much, much bigger than the death of one man of course because relationships within the middle east are very delicate at the middle east are very delicate at the best of times and under president trump we are seeing iran being something that's basically a conflict between iran and saudi arabia most of the time to simplify it massively but the president has made a clear new sanctions against iran, how will he deal —— deal with a second front against saudi arabia is one point and a very important
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one. the other question is we have... because the closeness of the we st have... because the closeness of the west to saudi arabia, our reliance on their whale and their money and are wanting to sell arms through them and have contacts we have let them and have contacts we have let them get away with one hail of a lot over the years and i think there is a question about why is the death of one journalist more important for examples than the death of thousands of innocent civilians in yemen? do you think turkey have played a blinder year? i think lance raises an interesting point about saudi arabia because they have been undergoing this very cosmetic reform about we have this programme of reform until 2030 but we will allow women to drive, allow people to go to the cinema and i think they have been quite the statement cites in the west of people requite excepting. to me this has echoes of russia, echoes of a novichok horrific murder. right down to the picture. i think it is back to
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square picture. i think it is back to square one. picture. i think it is back to square one. as he said, how do you deal with this because people are exporting our arms and is being used in the waron exporting our arms and is being used in the war on yemen. these are things that are never quite straightforward but quite a comp --... i think straightforward but quite a comp ——... i think there a danger of the west looking quite impotent and how they deal with this. there is huge pressure on the prints. it is an autocratic regime and he virtually pulls the strings. what surprises me as he have not found a scapegoat right now saying something did go wrong but it was not my fault. something like the. eight my homework. they're totally implausible the way they are trying to go. the new york times are now reporting when you say scapegoat, they are bringing forward a potential fall guy for this. this they are bringing forward a potentialfall guy for this. this is quoted from the new york times, a top intelligence official whose close with the conference and they're now saying he may try to save face and drop a line under the matter, he may be the one name that is offered up to say we have taken
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action. we will see. turning to the telegraph, complete confusion now. if you're into our plastic recycling, swindon council is now saying they will not bother anymore. we have seen reports around the country that there is a real imbalance in the way which councils are doing with this and some are very serious about it and depending on where you live you could either separate everything carefully and check it all into one bin or in this case in swindon there's no point doing it at all because it'll all go to the landfill or be incinerated. i think the recycling industry is facing a real crisis, just at the time when so many people wanted to work —— want it to work, are willing to do their bit. they suddenly look at the industry and say what is going on here? there are questions with the environment agency watching an inquiry, the questions about what
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actually happens when i put my plastic bottle into the bin because doesn't really get recycled? i think there is a real danger as i said just at the time when people wanted to work, lots in the whole industry. you hear about recycling, i was quite surprised to read recycling rates have i went over the past three years, you would think they have been increasing. friends of the earth calling for legislation. there isa earth calling for legislation. there is a crisis of confidence going on here and this is pretty serious. the piece here on the front of the telegraph makes the point that obviously this ban will be short—lived, but for the people who go through this who are affected by it, would they then go back to recycling when it is lifted again? would you really have the confidence in recycling that they're getting rid of it, going through all this effort? would you go back to it?|j probably would because i believed very strongly and... but... the plastic and if he gets to me as it does do an awful lot of people. we have seen on the television or
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beaches they have been to. i think the will on behalf of ordinary people to do something about is there, but then they have a disillusioned with the industry and also the fact the industry is profit driven rather than environment driven. let's turn to the metro, all about crime figures. the story that we are linking this with is drugs collect —— drug gang murder dad on doorstep. it is absolutely heartbreaking story. this goes to theissue heartbreaking story. this goes to the issue about knife crime in london and violent crime in london. i think the latest data showed over 15,000 knife crime related incidents over the last year, more than 200 a day. it is going to be a key battle ground for the next mayoral race. i think sadiq khan has been complacent. he had left his eye off of the ball and i think he has a lot to a nswer of the ball and i think he has a lot to answer for here. it is the ultimate thing. do you feel safe or not, and clearly people don't feel
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safe, and a year sadiq khan co nsta ntly com plain safe, and a year sadiq khan constantly complain saying i have done my bit —— i hear him complain. it's up to central government. that is not good enough. you are the mayor of london, take responsibility, do something about this, it is not credible. he says sadiq khan has a responsibility. it is murderers who commit murder not the mayors of london or anywhere else. this murder took place actually about a mile away from where i live in london, and it's in a very isolated area. it is related to drugs, it opens up huge questions about the way in which the so—called war on drugs about the way in which the so—called waron drugs and about the way in which the so—called war on drugs and there a big debate going on internationally about that, about how we deal with it. but to try to turn it into a political issue i think it's a mistake because everybody wants this bill with, and it isa everybody wants this bill with, and it is a very complex issue about how to deal with it —— everybody wants this dealt with. no doubt while overall crime levels are following the violent crime is on the increase especially in big cities, but normally around drugs and gangs, and
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the question, if we have to look at the question, if we have to look at the politics of it, is whether or not people feel they are personally more at risk that may have been in the past, and i think probably, hopefully it is sufficiently isolated and that is not the case. my isolated and that is not the case. my beef with sadiq khan is he keeps saying i have done my bit. in my book that emboldens criminals. he says i have done my bit, it is up to central government to provide the money and in my book that emboldens promotes because it is that there's nothing more i can do. show some leadership, you have responsibility for the met. i think it has been... he's been pretty remiss in all of this. 0k. very quickly, the and a report that's been held back because of costs timings and what have you. this is on the front page of the financial times. it this is on the front page of the financialtimes. it says this is on the front page of the financial times. it says that studies found that hsii will cost taxpayers 25% more than other
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similar schemes in other countries. do you think people are shocked by that, really? no, i don't think they all that surprised. i think they will be concerned the report on it has been kept under wraps and there's embarrassment there. we were talking about waffle competent in the recycling industry, there's a danger of loss of confidence in these big projects and the answer of thatis these big projects and the answer of that is transparency in both cases and they're not being transparent enough. we have run out of time, but we will come back to the front pages and maybe also have different stories but thank you both for that. thank you very much for watching. don't forget, you can see the front pages of the papers online on the bbc news website. it's all there for you, seven days a week at bbc.co.uk/papers. and if you miss the programme any evening, you can watch it later on bbc iplayer. thank you to my guests, lance price and giles kenningham, and we'll all be back for a longer look at the papers at 11:30pm. including possibly some greenbacks, which i could do it all, not man's eyes. —— possibly some kleenex, not
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man's eyes. the weather for the majority of the country overall is looking pretty goodin country overall is looking pretty good in the coming days. we might have problems with fog over the weekend but as far tonight is concerned, for many of us clears both of the very least, quite chilly, but not the case absolutely everywhere. in fact in scotland a very far northwest of scotland and northern ireland by the end of the night there could be rain brought in by this weather front drifting off the atlantic right now. you can see the clear skies in many parts of the country, the winds freshening up by midnight in the north—west and maybe up to gale forced. this is what it looks like there tonight, not much happening across england and wales. here are the freshening winds out toward the northwest and that rain approaching the western isles of scotland. either temperatures first thing friday, only 2 degrees in newcastle, around six or seven for some of the major towns and cities across the
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south of the country. friday, high pressure is in charge again of the weather across england and wales, but in scotland and northern ireland we have weather front moving through so we have weather front moving through so that means temporarily in belfast, glasgow, edinburgh we could see a little bit of rain, but even that will not last very long and eventually the sun should come out as well. later in the afternoon there could be some cloud here across northern areas of england, but on the whole it is a fine day for the south. 16 in london if not higher, 1a in newcastle which is not bad at all. i mentioned father later on and it could be very heavy or thick first thing on saturday morning, could be peace duped into the thinking is the midlands, parts of wales this is where the fog could linger into the afternoon but for most of us that is not going to be the case. the sun will come out. in the case. the sun will come out. in the northwest of the country a different story, breeze off the atlantic, lumbering around and not the right conditions for fog. but where the sun comes out across the country saturday is going to be a beautiful day with white winds and some sunshine up to 18 degrees. the
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high pressure is in charge of the weather across england and wales into sunday, so that means once again with white winds there could be fog in the northwest if you notice there and weather moving through so that is why belfast, glasgow, western parts of the uk are infor glasgow, western parts of the uk are in for some rain. actually on sunday afternoon it could be the case that it will brighten up and delete it in aberdeen and temperatures could be higher than 1a, maybe even 18 in the south, not bad at all. this is bbc news. i'm lukwesa burak. the headlines at 11pm: the prime minister says extending the transition period after the uk leaves the eu could be one option to help solve the issue of the northern ireland border. the eu says it's ready to consider the idea. we are not standing here proposing an extension to the implementation period. what we are doing is working towards a solution to the backstop issue in northern ireland that
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