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first, tina turner talks to ask about her five decade—long career as one of the guest stars in rock music. 50, tina, you taught mickjagger the pony. can you teach me? i'll try. 0k. what the pony is, it was originated by the original... and we used it as a travelling step, so you have to count, so how do you get from this point of the stage to that side? the pony is one, two, that two—three puts the foot back. 0k. again. one, three... one, two... no, come on. come on, come on, come on. ok, let's go again. one, two, three. two, three, you've got to move that other foot. music: simply the best
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tina turner. hello. another autobiography... another. this one is the end of the second part. why, what did you want to say? it's 20 years later, i think, probably a little bit more, and a lot has happened since the stage life and my life changed. i had sicknesses and i moved from america to switzerland, and retirement set in, and things changed. and that's how the book starts, this beautiful wedding. it starts actually in this hotel, you go back to your house on lake zurich, not farfrom here, and then a series of revelations happen. you feel a bit weird
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on your wedding day, a bit tired, and then you had a stroke. i think i had overdone something, some kind of way, but i went to hospital to find out what this cramping sensation was, and they put me on the table for mri, we call it, and they said the blood pressure went up. and i said, "oh, it's always up," you know, because i always had high blood—pressure. immediately they took me on and they say, "it's a mild stroke on the back of the head," and they took me down and i said i didn't believe it, "a stroke, no," like that. they left the room. hit the floor, the whole right side was gone. i thought, what have i done? i really have had something, because i can't move. then i forced... used all of my willpower to... i wanted to get back like i was. i didn't believe... i thought i was the ultimate
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person to fix things. they said, "well, how do you do that?" "don't give into it, it will come back." it was a mild stroke, it wasn't a heavy one. and you were 73 at the time? at the time, yes. and did it affect your singing at all? obviously when you couldn't speak, but when your speech came back, was your voice is still there? actually, after having retired, i haven't tried to sing since... i'm sure i can. it's still there! after we kind of got rid of the stroke, then the shingles started, this dizziness. so they found out what that was, in the inner ear, we corrected that. then after that was the kidney pain and they foun that... that was the colon next, so they said, "ok, we're going to have to cut half of it out." because it was cancerous? yeah. then they said... i wonder if one of your kidneys is functioning. actually, what happened is i stopped medication for kidney because i was tired of the medicine and i wanted
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to see what i felt i like, my old self, because the blood—pressure medicine holds you... it restricts you a little bit. so your energy had gone? your energy, yep. and then i thought, i'm stopping it, i'll go back to homoeopathic medicine. well, the homoeopathic medicine wasn't strong enough for what my problem was. right. and that's why the kidney reacted and failed. so i went to the doctor and he said, "your kidney numbers, they are totally down. what have you done?" i said, "well, i stopped the medicine." so he says, "well, your kidney is gone. now you only... you have no kidney." did you say you'd been foolish? no. the swiss people are like the english, they have manners. i said, "so what happens?" he said, "if you don't maintain it, if you don't do what we recommend,
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you will probably die." so i said, "well, if it's time..." ifelt like, i'm late 705, my mother died at 84, my sister died at 7a, i thought maybe this was my time. you accept the life and death. yep, i was ready. isaid... i just thought it's my time. you'd even checked out assisted suicide. i did once earlier anyway. death is not a problem for me. i don't really mind leaving. right. i know a lot of people don't think that way, but i'm happy i do because... anyway, erwin said no. they say to erwin, "you can live with one kidney." so erwin thought... so erwin said to the doctors, "can i give her one of mine," something similar, i wasn't there, and then he found out he doesn't need two kidneys so he came to me and said, "tina, you don't have to make this decision now. i can give you one of my kidneys." isaid, "oh, erwin, you're young, i'm already older.
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it's ok, you just get used to me not being here." oh, no, he didn't want that. then he talked me into him taking on one kidney. isaid, "no, i have to talk to the doctors." i talked to them about erwin and what would happen to him, because he was still quite young. and i did feel like i was older, i was already in my 705, so why should i take the kidneys from a young man and let him finish his life? that's what i felt like. he said, "well, no, no, my life is fine how it is, i'll give you one of my kidneys." yeah. so the obvious question is, you're 79 next month, you've had your stroke, you've had cancer and you've had kidney failure and a kidney replacement. how are you, tina? i'm happier than i've ever been in my life. i'm happier than i ever thought that
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life would become for me. so that means that most of my hardships came while i was young, growing up. and then in the last days, when normally people suffer from old age and sickness, my happiness came. i am really thoroughly happy. and how is your health? it's really good. i go to the doctor now once a month for them to just check to make sure everything is going ok. i take medicine once a day, but i have to for the rest of my life. i did fall a couple of days ago and broke something, so i was in a wheelchair and on crutches, but now i'm going through my sick period, and i think it'll take me right into the 90s or whatever. i'll be around for a while! you say in the book in 1968 you tried to take your own life. right.
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at that time, when i tried to commit suicide, my life was really down, it was the ike and tina days. i was terribly unhappy, extremely unhappy. continuously, day in, day out. i didn't have a way out. i didn't know... the way out was through the door, but that didn't come at the time, i just felt totally helpless. when i was really, really, really fed up, that's when ijust took a chance and said, "come with me," and left. it's really clouded my life and the situation i was in with ike. it's a tough question to ask somebody who's in a situation of domestic abuse. but you said it a minute ago, the other option was to walk out of the door. why didn't you? i didn't have a place to go, i didn't have money, didn't have access to money. i was leaving children. which i did try to leave, a couple of times, that wasn't written in the books. and the first time was when i had the experience of being whipped with a wire hanger. and then another time was something else. and i realised, well, you don't go back. the experience is once to leave, don't go back. you got married to ike.
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just tell me about the wedding, because it's unconventional. oh, oh, oh! that was really bad. ike was crooked from day one to day two to the end of... everything he did was conniving. i was different. i thought the wedding was... i was fairytale—ish. i thought a man would ask you to marry him, with a white dress. it was my wedding, a piece of paper pushed across, we signed, and after that we went to a brothel and watched sex. that's even hard to really think about. so as far as i was concerned, nothing had changed. i was still with ike. i wasn't married. as faras... my thinking, i was the same what i was to him, which was he knew already that i no longer cared about him, and was paranoid about me leaving.
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he had already sensed that i was thinking of leaving. so that was the beginning of the end. the beginning of... that violence, and how evil he was. it was every day, every moment. every now and then, there was some fun. sometimes it was, i don't remember what it was, but i remember there were days it was lighter and nicer. but mostly, he was just a really... always angry with me. he treated me like i was a prisoner, and he was the god. phil spector, as we now know, is a fairly strange character, but what could he do for you, as a producer, what tina turner did he find? he wanted me to sing, not deliver. ike had me singing more of a gospel way. # when i was a little girl, i had a rag doll...# the melody
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of that song was... # when i was a little girl...# # i had a rag doll # only doll i've ever owned # now i love you just the way i loved that rag doll # but only now my love has grown # and it gets stronger, in every way # and it gets deeper, let me say # and it gets higher, day by day # and do i love you, my oh my # yeah, river deep, mountain high...# the production... the real production of that song was what phil wanted. and so when i went to actually audition with phil, he said, "no, no, just the melody with the piano." i can sing anything
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when you tell me how to sing it. give me the melody. it was simple until the day of the studio when the room was full of all kind of musicians and that wall of sound. the famous wall of sound. that famous wall of sound. how you get that is with an instrument here, another instrument, four or five instruments, the room was full of an orchestra. and never before, you'd never seen anything like that? no, never. and when that... immitates beat i chill now. i mean, it was another feeling to sing to that. # when i was a little...# really to sing into that... immiates beat all of... i saw exactly what phil was producing. you're notjust a singer in that context, you're an instrument, aren't you? actually, yes. he's just playing you like...
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it was totally two different ways of singing. and then bono gave you a song, and you couldn't find the melody in that at all. bono said... i mean, when i received goldeneye... this is for bond. yeah. i thought, he didn't make a proper demo. he just... someone just through the music together, and he had just written the song and when roger, my manager, said, "tina, this is the song..." he told me it was a big break. he said, "it's a little bit rough." i thought... how do i put this together? it wasn't showing me what the melody was. and so... yeah, i would have to say i created as close to what i thought the melody was of that. it was your melody, not bono's. it was. close enough that he gave me a guideline, but not enough to sing, just to sing it. i had to work really hard. i remember, i really closed myself off. i had just moved here when that happened. to really find... # goldeneye, no time...#
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that part was clear, but the verses, there was no guide. he said... i remember when he said, "i should've known... i don't know, he should've known, he wrote the song actually! but he was very pleased with the outcome of it. it was in the studio when the song was being recorded. yeah, that was another feat. that was hard. but i was proud of myself when i came up with a song out of what he sent to me. yeah. i don't think he really meant for me to sing it. meant that anything could come from that. i don't even really think he cared to write a song for bono with what he gave me. i wish i still had some of that stuff. but, yeah, i knew then i had talent
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to sing anything put before me. you could make it live. i could make it live. # you'll never know how i watched you from the shadows as a child. # you'll never know how it feels to get so close and be denied. # it's a gold and honey trap i've got for you tonight. # revenge is a kiss. # this time i won't miss. # now i've got you in my sight... so you became a swiss citizen, relinquishing your american citizenship, and here you are now, in 2018, looking back at your old country, at america. what are you seeing?
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difference. it's different than when i was there. my attitude about being there is, i had lived there the first 50 years of my life, but now i'm moving to another country. part of that was because of my relationship with erwin. part of it was i was always treated a little differently in those other countries than i was in america. because in america, a black singer, r&b singer, was always a black singer, r&b singer. that was what i was in america. they saw me as an r&b singer. and that is why river deep — mountain high was not pop enough to be pop in america, not black enough to be black, so didn't have a home. so that was the story there. and why i felt so comfortable leaving america was because they treated me not as a black person.
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they treated me just as a star. as a rock star. in britain, in holland, in germany? all over, they welcomed me with open arms, and ifelt really good and welcome. there is a tragic end to the story. it comes after the book is finished, really, and it tells the awful story of your son's suicide. yes. it's very hard to talk about, but i have managed, because it's been quite a while. i still don't know what took him to the edge, because at that stage he had said to me that he had never met a woman that he felt that way about — which i met her during the funeral,
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and asked her about craig's life. his girlfriend? this is his new girlfriend. he was bringing her to meet me on his birthday. he had decorated his apartment, that i bought him years ago. he had gotten a newjob with a real estate — a very prominent real estate company, in california, he was very happy with. i have no idea what pulled him down, except something that followed him with loneliness. i think it was something with being alone. but, when i think that, then why didn't he call the new girlfriend, that gave him the lift? so it wasn't that. he didn't call her. actually, it seemed like she wondered what happened to craig — he hasn't called. so it looked like whatever was bothering him, he was a very introverted person, he was very shy. so i didn't know, except now, when i listen back to our last conversations, i noticed a change. and he said, "hi, dear" — and nobody calls their mother "dear" — whenever he called me.
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and last time we talked, the conversation was different, and i didn't know that until after the suicide. in what way was it different? no "hi, dear." "i just want to hear that voice, and that laugh of yours." after that i thought, "hear your voice"? he had never said that. "and that laugh of yours" — never. always just talked about coming to see the music. i sent him the book, and all that. everything was going good, every time he called me. but that last — i would say the last two times that he talked to me, it was no "hi, dear," no... you could tell when the voice was up or down, and the voice was down, as if he was just relaxed. let's end more cheerfully, because it seems that
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you are supposed to be retired. i am, except this. well, you are kind of not. you have a hit musical on the west end, which is on its way to broadway. you have this book. what else do you have planned? you know what i'm proud of? yes? that, at this age, there's still something happening. you got that gift inside you, that voice. anybody can rock'n'roll with ike tonight, whose singing going to blow us away. my music doesn't sound old—style. there's a musical that's a hit. i think the documentary will be a hit. so, aside from being really tired of talking about myself, i'm really proud of what my future as a star became. i feel proud that i hold that in my hands. out of your entire canon of songs, which would you pick as the one
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you most enjoy performing? my songs? because there are always covers. any song you have performed. there were quite a few that i love that wasn't mine, because i was accustomed to covering. and i heard palmer — robert palmer's addicted to love. and i changed everything i covered. i like that one very much. it still moves me when i play it today. i played it faster, changed some of the lines, but i made it my own. addicted to love, something was right about it being my song. my songs were good songs. terry britten, the covers that i did... proud mary.
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proud mary, of course. mark knopfler, private dancer. # you don't look at their faces, and you con't ask their names. # you don't think of them as human, you don't think of them at all. # you keep your mind on the money, keeping your eyes on the wall. # i'm your private dancer, a dancer for money. # i'll do what you want me to do. # i'm your private dancer, a dancer for money. # and any old music will do. you believe in reincarnation, you say so in the book. what would you like to come back as? i would like it to be easier. what do i want to come back... i think as a teacher. i think i want to come back with the knowledge that i learned in this lifetime, and i think i want to teach spiritually,
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to help people know how to live. and are you anna mae, or are you tina turner? both, i say both. tina turner is still on stage, people still see me as tina. i think even in my private life people might see a little bit of anna mae at some of the parties, or whatever, or my style of living. i don't party a lot, i don't travel a lot, i stay at home. so they can go by how i live my life here, to know that, no, she's not that way or this way. so they would know that that part of tina is only on the stage. so anna mae is a quiet, reclusive type, tina turner the showwoman. much less, i think.
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tina turner, thank you very much indeed. thank you. hello there and would get a look at the end ended when a forecast for many, the start of half term and of high pressure close by colleague uses high pressure close by colleague uses for many, there will be able to dry weather in the next week. we do have some weak weather fronts around and that is particularly in the north but at this time of year, the downside is frost and fall. some could be quite dense on saturday,
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sunday allied. at this time of year, maybe late morning to lunchtime horrifyingly clears away so those dense patches make it quite hazardous if you're travelling. a different story further north, chilly start in eastern scotland and the south, becoming quite warm in the south, becoming quite warm in the afternoon but we do have this weather front bringing drizzly rain across the coast and hills of scotla nd across the coast and hills of scotland so helpful here for many, not a great day to take to the hills but the high pressure, the front is still with us moving into sunday. becoming more active as it moves. more rain across scotland, especially across england and wales as well. the problem is with the frost, dense fog, ones that clears away, best sunshine and egos and will be quite warm inland meaning we get progress to the south, progress and to the north of the weather front and behind that, slipping out early next week, across the low countries, is a strong area of light pressure. this is really quite a
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strong high pressure boulevard around m0. —— strong high pressure boulevard around m0. "1040. you can the guest rooms deliver all of us. as it does so, thejet guest rooms deliver all of us. as it does so, the jet stream started doing more to the north and west so it is introducing somewhat cold air while giving weather front that they are pushing southward into the mediterranean instead. as we move into monday, we clear that initially liked clouds and patchy rain in the south, what is left of it mad meca north—westerly bringing in the brain, the weather front to the north and east of the uk. temperatures in lowell any weekend because they are introducing me slightly cooler north—westerly s team. the high pressure today's liberals and they do to next week. with the high pressure close to the south and west, always staying dry year while you're likely to see rain showers, certainly in northern and eastern areas, and the north—west of
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the game, just keeping those temperatures pegged back on those expected this weekend, only two or three degrees but if you are inside, it will feel pleasant enough. the close ties rather indicative of stronger winds here through monday, tuesday and indeed wednesday. when they very similar sort of story with others are showers or cloud in the north and east, elsewhere, that breeze, early frost, touch of frost, it for daran potentially but in the sunshine outside the wind, feeling pleasa nt sunshine outside the wind, feeling pleasant and after then the sea change later in the week. just watch how this cold air stars to pundits may southward and that is as ebay picked up a northerly wind, a real blast of cold air notjust here, across the uk, but strong winds pushing that there was no potentially across the alps, pyrenees and into scandinavia and we ourselves can see some wintry showers in northern and eastern areas, significant wind—chill, widespread frost by night but against still the sunshine away from the and east. 20 men are found guilty
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of being part of a grooming gang that abused girls as young as 11 in huddersfield. the men plied their victims with alcohol and drugs, and abused them over seven years. on one occasion she came home and her neck was completely black with bites from one side to the other. a taxi had just pulled up outside and pushed her out. sometimes, victims were driven to the yorkshire moors, and abandoned there at night. as police praise the victims who gave evidence, we'll ask what this latest case tells us. also on the programme... as a search continues forjamal khashoggi, the former head of mi6 says he has little doubt the saudi regime ordered his killing. president trump threatens military force as thousands of central american migrants approach mexico. we have a special report. and barefoot on bondi, and a harbour bridge climb —
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