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this is bbc news — the headlines: saudi arabia has confirmed that the missing journalist — jamal khashoggi — died during his visit to the country's consulate in istanbul earlier this month. saudi state media said a fight that broke out between the journalist and the people he met at the consulate led to his death. at least 60 people have died and more than 200 have been injured in northern india as a commuter train ploughed into them near the city of amritsar. a religious festival had been taking place — and it's believed people didn't hear the train approaching. hundreds of central american migrants travelling in a mass caravan to the united states have tried to breach mexico's southern border and enter the country. the migrants broke through guatemalan border fences — but were halted by police as they streamed onto a bridge leading to mexico. mental health therapy is failing more people than it helps, in one in seven areas of england, according to research carried out by the bbc.
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people with conditions including depression, anxiety and post—traumatic stress disorder are entitled to therapy — but not all are getting what they need. our health editor hugh pym reports. lucy had a series of counselling sessions to help with depression. but they ended, things got worse and she self harmed. she believes more therapy would have helped but she felt she was cast adrift. you can like you are a burden on people, you feel like you are a fraud, like it is in your head, and not being referred onwards or taken seriously made me feel more worthless, more like i was causing problems for everyone and more like i should be able to pull myself together and get over it. i think it made me feel like the nhs had given up on me. the therapy programme in england is similar to that in scotland and wales. the english target is for half of patients to recover after therapy, that is being met,
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but there is wide variation in results. in lutonjust one in four patients were successfully treated at one stage this year. in wirral it was one in three but in nottingham west it was nearly two in three recovering and in stoke—on—trent it was just over two in three. some say it is a workforce problem. there are not enough therapists, there are not enough trainers coming forward, and that affects how many people can be treated and how many sessions they might get. leading psychologists say the mental health programme has helped hundreds of thousands of people overcome anxiety and depression. they acknowledge that more could be done to improve it in some areas. there has always been regional variation in mental health but we have not known about it because we have not been measuring it. but now that we can measure it we can learn enormous amounts about how to reduce it and how to help the less good performing services move up the level of the others.
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and there has been big success in that already. lucy is now a mental health writer and campaigner. she just wants to see more consistency in what is available through the nhs to help people navigate their mental health challenges. now on bbc news, it's time for our world. for decades, australians and new zealanders have had the right to live and work in each other‘s country — but those rights have now been curtailed by australia, and thousands of kiwis are being detained and deported by australia. once the closest of friends, these neighbours‘ relationship is under severe pressure. last post plays. after a century of brotherhood, the special bond between australia and new zealand is fracturing. a growing
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problem with the gang violence has led to a law and order crackdown. well over a thousand new zealanders deported from australia. australia, which has always been deemed our big brother, now actually bullies us. which has always been deemed our big brother, now actually bullies usm they —— is a cherished life they lead here in australia, they need to start respecting australians, they need to abide by the law. some new zealanders have been locked up in australia for years without charge, tribal conviction, before being thrown out. the easiest way to put it is like you have died, you are a ghost, you can still see your old life, you know what i mean? a lot of people say don'tjudge life, you know what i mean? a lot of people say don't judge a life, you know what i mean? a lot of people say don'tjudge a book by life, you know what i mean? a lot of people say don't judge a book by its cover. you put me in the detention, it puts me injail for nothing. cover. you put me in the detention, it puts me in jail for nothing. what have i done wrong? i do not think as a government we should be standing aside while these kind of threat to human rights are taking place.|j
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have travelled from australia to new zealand to assess the damage this i’ow zealand to assess the damage this row is doing to what has, for more than 100 years, been one of the closest relationships between neighbouring countries anywhere in the world. you get an e—mailfrom the probation 01’ you get an e—mailfrom the probation or airport police, to say that they are arriving on such and such a flight are arriving on such and such a flight at such and such a time. they are refugees, because in a way they have two leave the country that our wa nt to have two leave the country that our want to leave, and arrive somewhere where they don't really know and have to reinvent their lives again. you just have to do what i tell you.
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all right? next few days. i will become like your mum, auntie. $251. deported in handcuffs onto a flight from australia, a0 year rolled tyrone jones is from australia, a0 year rolled tyronejones is now back in new zealand. with a new phone, courtesy of the city of christchurch. there is your number. thank you. i have your number on my phone so i will text you from my phone and then you will have my number. the christchurch city council have been absolutely wonderful because they just know that if you can get people to feel welcome in a place it is less likely they will not feel part of society. what is that feel like? feels like home. the relief when they get in the car and i say, i'm going to take you to a motel and get you some food... men who have left
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their children behind. what they have left behind is just too much for a lot of them to actually grasp at the time. they can't grasp the enormity of it. the kids iraq inhibit differently, as you are in handcuffs in plain sight. your children have lost their home and they have lost their dad. wow. that's going to create a lot of problems later on, isn't it. definitely, definitely. although tyrone had sole custody of his three children, he was deported after breaching a domestic violence order placed on him by his ex—wife. breaching a domestic violence order placed on him by his ex-wife. one hot and spicy, to regular. he claims there was never any violence. she sent me text messages, i sent her two back and police breached the net and gave me jail. two back and police breached the net and gave mejail. —— breached me on it. i had a nine—month sentence at
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the top and three months i served. and then instead of going out to my family and my kids i ended up going to detention. and spending another three months there. i don't understand why i have been labelled asa understand why i have been labelled as a bad character, when all i was doing was being a father of three kids, on my own, with only my father's support. this is so much better than detention! now his children are living in australia with grandparents, and he has been banished to a country he hasn't known for almost two decades. welcome home. excellent. thank you so welcome home. excellent. thank you so much. that is shocking. earthquake ravaged christchurch is a city with a big heart for those deported from australia. it has been
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yea rs deported from australia. it has been years since i've been here. so yeah. just trying to get a feel for the place. now, tyrone is just just trying to get a feel for the place. now, tyrone isjust trying to adjust to life away from his children. it is like i have been labelled a monster. i'm not looking toa labelled a monster. i'm not looking to a vengeance life of crime, ijust hope to see kids one day. —— see my kids. many in new zealand, including members of the government here in the capital's wellington, believe australia's deportation policy —— policy, separating families is draconian and inhumane. the country's minister of justice, andrew little, is an outspoken critic. new zealanders, they don't like what they are seeing, they don't think it is right, they don't think it is fair. they certainly wa nt think it is fair. they certainly want the government to be letting australia no what we think is right
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and wrong about this, and we are doing that. it concern that australia is breaching human rights? i think if you look at the international agreements, the un conventions that cover this sort of thing, i don't think that is consistent, and what is happening is consistent, and what is happening is consistent with those un conventions. new zealanders on average contribute a huge amount to australia, new zealand is go there to work hard and sometimes they play hard, and they expect aussie cousins to give them a fair go. many are saying at the moment they are not getting a fair go. the decades australians and new zealanders have had a reciprocal rights to live and work in each other‘s country. but australia has unilaterally curtail those rights, with changes to the law making it easier to cancel visas and deport non— citizens. for those sentenced to 12 months jail or more, mandatory deportation. authorities have cancelled the visas of four
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violent criminals with links to the apex... police, open the door! in australia, media coverage of deportations is focused on gang violence. but many of the more than 1000 new zealanders deported have only minor criminal conviction, or none at all. the minister for home affairs has the call. thank you very much mr speaker, i think the honourable member... as australia's home affairs minister, peter dutton overseas portfolio including australia's federal police and border force, and its immigration detention facilities. i tell you what i have done, mr speaker, i have cancelled 3700 visas of criminals in this country. people who would have gone to commit offences again australia and is... under recently changed laws, the home affairs minister holds extraordinary powers to deport people on "character
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grounds" alone. so even when no crime has been committed. he is also the sole arbiter. if the deportation decision is overturned by an australian court, the minister can ignore thejudgement australian court, the minister can ignore the judgement and simply amend the order and deport them anyway. if they have been involved in violence, gang violence, terrorist related activity, whatever it might be then they will not be getting australian citizenship. 0ften getting australian citizenship. often it is portrayed in the context of the wide and debate around immigration, and remains a hot political issue. with mr dutton mating regular appearances in the australian media espousing his government's tough stands. we are closing detention centres... back in new zealand the justice minister there has grave misgivings about australian law and how it is being incremented. you have done little growing up in australia, you are a product of australia will stop —— you have done all your growing up. i
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do not think it is right that if that person starts behaving criminally they should be sent back to new zealand, a country they do not know because they left in their infancy. i accept they are a sovereign country, they can make whatever laws they like them by a lot of new zealanders are now being drawn into this, 1200 deportations in the last three years are three under the years, a lot more are going to happen. —— three and a bit. i have said to ministers in the australia government, while that is the case and while they are new zealand citizens, they are entitled to have the new zealand government speak up to them and we will speak up speak up to them and we will speak upfor speak up to them and we will speak up for them. in the larger city on new zealand's south island, christchurch, the bridge of remembrance sent as a monument to a close alliance forged in times of war, when australians and new zealanders fought side by side as pa rt zealanders fought side by side as part of the australian and new zealand army court. known as the anzacs. my father said to tour is in
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vietnam and i am very proud of their history —— serves to make two tours in vietnam and i very proud of the history my family has contributed to anzacs. like any other families in new zealand. a century after the birth of the anzac legend, philip payne despairs of where it has all gone. australia which has always been deemed our big brother now actually bullies us. philippa is now actually bullies us. philippa is now a campaigner for deportees. because she believes australia has trashed its closest friendship and sullied its closest friendship and sullied its human rights record. there has been 1300 new zealand citizens deported already for detention centres in australia are full of new zealand citizens, and let's not forget that we are the number one nationality in australian detention centres. new zealand citizens, feel australian detention centres. how are your children coping at the moment? this week has been pretty
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difficult. i have been ringing my kids every day, just recently they have started to cry on the phone... from her home in suburban christchurch, phillip bay keeps in touch with some of the hundreds of new zealanders who have been detained while awaiting or fighting deportation. i don't think they are doing very well, i'm sorry, without me. 32-year-old aidan brown is being held in immigration detention centre in western australia. in my heart i believe i am australian. i learnt everything here, i have done all my school here up all my work ethic is from australia. aidan has lived in australia since he was four years old will stop but has been held in immigration detention after being arrested over a driving offence. that charge was dropped, but because ofa that charge was dropped, but because of a previous conviction as a juvenile, he was deemed of "bad
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cha ra cter" juvenile, he was deemed of "bad character" and ordered out of australia. my situation and a lot of the boys here situation, a lot of us had not even done crimes. we have done minor crimes, wine was a driving offence. australia's law has classed us as bad characters. sol reckon it has been a bit judgemental. personally it tears me down knowing that i cannot do anything, especially with my family. deep idoit i do it because i'm very passionate about what is going on between our trans— about what is going on between our tra ns— tasman travel agreement. about what is going on between our trans— tasman travel agreement. i believe that australia's government legislatively discriminates against new zealand citizens in australia. fighting a deportation can mean months or years in custody awaiting the outcome of the legal process.|j
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think it is time for us to stand up and make sure that our people are k. many, like the man we have come to see today, choose to accept being deported rather than at risk spending longer into detention in australia. there we go. we are here. hello, just in, how are you? that's good. justin miller moved to australia with his parents as a small child in 1988. smells nice and clea n. small child in 1988. smells nice and clean. earlier this year he was deported to new zealand, to a country he could barely remember. i'm pretty sure a lot of the australian public doesn't really understand the full extent of what is happening. i love australia and its society, and they still do. it isjust politics that i don't like at the moment. australia has a problem with crime and sending people away isn't the way to deal with it. justin miller says his
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happy childhood in western australia a downward spiral after he was molested by a priest.|j a downward spiral after he was molested by a priest. i turned to alcohol and drugs to get away from what happened to me at boarding school. i grew up in a suburb with a very high crime rate at the time. and, yeah, like a lot of other people around me in that area ended up people around me in that area ended up in trouble. like many of the hundreds of thousands of new zealanders living in australia as permanent residents, justin says he had never felt the permanent residents, justin says he had neverfelt the need permanent residents, justin says he had never felt the need to seek australian citizenship. i've got an aussie partner, i've got an aussie child, and, yeah, just never even thought of it. yes, it stuffs up in life and committed crimes, but i have paid for those crimes, i've learned from my mistakes, and i was
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making a general goal of life —— i stuffed up. all i can do is, now, is prove the australian government wrong in saying that i am a totally bad person who is not worth nothing. but i am worth something. and so is my family and friends. five years ago, on australia's gold coast, a brawl between members of a motorcycle club captured the headlines. stay back where you are! within weeks, some states have enacted laws banning motorcycle club membership and turning members into outlaws. a lot of people say don't judge a book by its cover. for yea rs, judge a book by its cover. for years, lee lived the australian
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dream, with a fire —— carpet business lee and his young family lived a comfortable life in suburban australia, until one day in 2015 when he was arrested i a gang crime squad. he was told his visa was cancelled and he was thrown into a maximum security prison without any charges. so i went through the system and finally got processed, as they say. and, yeah, ended up in a back unit locked down. you know, it is pretty ha rd back unit locked down. you know, it is pretty hard to take in, you know. lee's visa had been cancelled because he was a member of the rebels motorcycle club, which the western australian state government had declared a criminal gang. 0utraged at his incarceration on no charges, lee took his case to australia's highest court. and that is the full high court, seven high
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courtjudges. and we proved to be government and australia that what he had done was invalid and unconstitutional. and we won our court case. but lee's freedom were short lived. even though the deportation order was ruled invalid, the home affairs minister, peter dutton, used his extraordinary powers to cancel lee's visa again. and after just powers to cancel lee's visa again. and afterjust one night of freedom he was arrested and put back into detention. his family was crushed. you know, just to see their faces, you know, they have not seen me for 22 months, and then tell them that that's visa has been cancelled again, itjust broke them. —— that's. yeah. how do they react? they were shattered. theyjust...
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yeah, they just broke they were shattered. theyjust... yeah, theyjust broke down. yeah, so i was, yeah pretty —— pretty heartbroken. lee's entire extended family in australia made the decision to pack up and leave and return it to new zealand to restart their life together in the town where he was born, blenheim. lee was unrepentant about his membership of the motorcycle club, which australia has outlawed and which cost him his visa. at the end of the day they looked past the club thing. they see me as looked past the club thing. they see measa looked past the club thing. they see me as a little kiwi boy who left this town. they just look me as a little kiwi boy who left this town. theyjust look straight through that. i tell them i am still with the club. i am not going to hide it. at the end of the day, my friends, my family, my brothers are the ones i am worried about. i'm not
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worried about those judgemental people. that doesn't bother me. with more than half a million new zealanders living in australia, cases like lee's have caused deep concerns in new zealand's capital, where the justice concerns in new zealand's capital, where thejustice minister is determined to take the fight back to the australian government. what i have said to the australian authorities, we will continue to talk about this, call things out, ta ke talk about this, call things out, take up individual cases where we think there has been an egregious level of unfairness, and see if we can effect change that way. does it concern you that a high proportion of the deportees that have been set back our maori rozoy that is concerning. i don't know of the new zealanders were proportion our maori. i do know that out of all deportees at australia, roughly one half a new zealanders. werribee chunk of those being deported. i do wonder whether there might be some
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systemic vaea —— bias there. wonder whether there might be some systemic vaea -- bias there. after a century of cherished friendship, the diplomatic relationship between australia and new zealand is at its lowest point in living memory. as the chilling relations sets in, at christchurch airport the stream of deportees from australia continues unabated. the latest to arrive, 3a—year—old matt shaw, deported after serving a shortjail 3a—year—old matt shaw, deported after serving a short jail sentence for stealing copper wire. i've got nothing. all my kids, family, mum and dad, back in australia. i've got nothing here at all. a bit tedious since i have been here. i have got nothing. for him the time served in prison was just part of his sentence. it has been a long time since i have been in the open, no cages around me. he faces the bitter reality that he has been banished
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from australia, uncertain if he will ever be allowed to return. look at that. for now this scale is home. give you a second chance, then if you blow it, i thought we were brothers and sisters, all one, typing. brothers and sisters, all one, typing, just now it is clap. they arejust deporting typing, just now it is clap. they are just deporting kiwis like no tomorrow. in australia's capital, canberra, symbols of the special relationship with new zealand in both peace and war are with new zealand in both peace and warare to be with new zealand in both peace and war are to be found everywhere. but as the australian government continues to insist that living in australia is a privilege and not a right for the new zealand neighbours, and the new zealand government protests the human rights violations of its citizens, the treasured friendship between these
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pacific ocean neighbours could well be tested to breaking point. hello. the weekend is upon us and the weather overall is not looking bad at all across most of the uk. all of us should get some sunshine at least at one point or another, but there will be some fog around on saturday morning, and also on sunday. let's have a look at the forecast, through the early hours and the weather is a little bit split. in the north—west of the country we have freshening wind, clouds are streaming in, there is a weather front approaching so there are some fog problems here. further south we will have clear skies and the temperature will dip down to maybe 2—3 degrees above freezing. perhaps across parts of the midlands and into wales fog could be thick, it could affect some of the country routes,
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there could be some delays, some delays at airports as well. bearthat in mind across england and wales. a lot of sunshine for many of us and just in one or two spots the fog may linger but in the north—west of the country we have those stronger winds with that weather front approaching, outbreaks of rain for a time in the western isles, in the south much lighter winds, you can see the wind speed arrows here. temperatures around 17 in london for example, very pleasant indeed. even 17 expected in aberdeen on saturday of afternoon. saturday night into sunday, weather front still very close to the north—west of the country, a new one coming in bringing some fresh rain and fresher conditions. to the south of that we still have high pressure, meaning the weather is looking very decent for the rest of the day, fog in the morning could be a problem on sunday. the weather front is a very weak one, it moves across, you can make out this line of cloud, that is a weather front behind it, it is starting to freshen with some cooler air coming from the north which heralds a change for next week. once this weather front moves through, you can see it here,
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behind this area of high pressure the wind is blowing like so, that cooler atlantic air is coming in. let's have a look at the forecast for monday, we are further away from the high pressure here in scotland so weather fronts are coming in. here we have those settled conditions but there is quite a brisk wind blowing out of the north—west, quite gusty around some of the coasts. the temperature is quite a bit lower, 13 in london, whether you are in the south or the north it should be around 13 degrees. a quick outlook into next week, a lot of dry weather without high pressure close by, a lot of sunshine with further morning mist and fog turning a bit cooler
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later in the week. welcome to bbc news, broadcasting to viewers in north america and around the globe. my name is duncan golestani. our top stories: saudi state media confirms that the journalist jamal khashoggi was killed in the country's consulate in istanbul. a number of arrests have been made — but president trump is still backing his allies in riyadh. we need them as a counterbalance to iran, so it's not the simplest solution, not the simplest situation to be in. a train ploughs into crowds watching a religious festival in northern india. at least 60 people are killed. chaos in mexico as thousands of central american migrants cross the border from guatemala. and barefoot on bondi and a harbour bridge climb — the duke and duchess of sussex take in some classic australian sights.
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