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best of the than 10 degrees. the best of the sunshine, up to 18 or 19 celsius. next week for most it is dry. hello this is bbc news with lu kwesa burak. the headlines: protest organisers estimate that over half a million people have joined a march through central london to call for a referendum on the final brexit deal. the people's vote campaign say it's the biggest demonstration against brexit so far. saudi arabia admits journalist, jamal khashoggi died in its consulate in istanbul. turkey has vowed to reveal all the details about the killing and said it will not accept a cover—up. europe and japan have launched two spacecraft on a mission to mercury. thejoint project will take the probes 7 years to reach their destination. the duke and duchess of sussex have attended the opening ceremony of the invictus games in sydney. the sporting event is for injured current and former servicemen and women. grammy award—winning singer tina turner talks to will gompertz
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about her five—decade—long career as one of the biggest stars in rock music. so, tina, you taught mickjagger the pony. can you teach me? i'll try. 0k. what the pony is, it was originated by the original... and we used it as a travelling step, so you have to count, so how do you get from this point of the stage to that side? the pony is one, two, that two—three puts the foot back. 0k. again. 0ne, three... one, two... no, come on. come on, come on, come on. ok, let's go again. one, two, three. two, three, you've got to move that other foot. tina turner. hello. another autobiography...
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another. this one is the end of the second part. why, what did you want to say? it's 20 years later, i think, probably a little bit more, and a lot has happened since the stage life and my life changed. i had sicknesses and i moved from america to switzerland, and retirement set in, and things changed. and that's how the book starts, this beautiful wedding. it starts actually in this hotel, you go back to your house on lake zurich, not farfrom here, and then a series of revelations happen. you feel a bit weird on your wedding day, a bit tired, and then you had a stroke. i think i had overdone something, some kind of way, but i went to hospital to find out what this cramping sensation was, and they put me on the table for mri, we call it, and they said the blood pressure went up. and i said, "oh, it's
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always up," you know, because i always had high blood—pressure. immediately they took me on and they say, "it's a mild stroke on the back of the head," and they took me down and i said i didn't believe it, "a stroke, no," like that. they left the room. blop. hit the floor, the whole right side was gone. i thought, what have i done? i really have had something, because i can't move. then i forced... used all of my willpower to... i wanted to get back like i was. i didn't believe... i thought i was the ultimate person to fix things. they said, "well, how do you do that?" "don't give into it, it will come back." it was a mild stroke, it wasn't a heavy one. and you were 73 at the time? at the time, yes. and did it affect your singing at all? 0bviously when you couldn't speak, but when your speech came back, was your voice is still there? actually, after having retired, i haven't tried to sing since... i'm sure i can. it's still there!
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after we got rid of the stroke, then the shingles started, this dizziness. so they found out what that was, in the inner ear, we corrected that. then after that was the kidney pain and they foun that... that was the colon next, so they said, "ok, we're going to have to cut half of it out." because it was cancerous? yeah. then they said... i wonder if one of your kidneys is functioning. actually, what happened was i stopped medication for kidney because i was tired of the medicine and i wanted to see what i felt like, my old self, because the blood—pressure medicine holds you... it restricts you a little bit. so your energy had gone? the energy, yep. so then i thought, i'm stopping it, i'll go back to homoeopathic medicine. well, the homoeopathic medicine wasn't strong enough for what my problem was. right. and that's why the kidney reacted and failed.
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so, i went to the doctor and he said, "your kidney numbers, they are totally down. what have you done?" i said, "well, i stopped the medicine." so he says, "well, your kidney is gone. now you only... you have no kidney." did he say you'd been foolish? no. the swiss people are like the english, they have manners. i said, "so what happens?" he said, "if you don't maintain it, if you don't do what we recommend, you will probably die." so i said, "well, if it's time..." ifelt like, i'm late 705, my mother died at 84, my sister died at 7a, i thought maybe this was my time. in budhism you accept the life and death. yep, i was ready. isaid... i just thought it's my time. you'd even checked out assisted suicide. i did once earlier, anyway.
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death is not a problem for me. i don't really mind leaving. right. i know a lot of people don't think that way, but i'm happy that i do because... you think that the book. —— you think that the book. "m you think that the book. -- it is something that is inevitable. anyway, erwin said no. they say to erwin, "you can live with one kidney." so erwin thought... so erwin said to the doctors, "can i give her one of mine," something similar, i wasn't there, and then he found out he doesn't need two kidneys so he came to me and said, "tina, you don't have to make this decision now. i can give you one of my kidneys." isaid, "0h, erwin, you're young, i'm already older. it's ok, you just get used to mean not being here." oh, no, he didn't want that. then he talked me into him taking on one kidney. isaid, "no, i have to talk to the doctors." i talked to them about erwin and what would happen to him, because he was still quite young. and i did feel like i was older, i was already in my 705,
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so why should i take the kidneys from a young man and let him finish his life? that's what i felt like. he said, "well, no, no, my life is fine how it is, i'll give you one of my kidneys." yeah. so, the obvious question is, you're 79 next month, you've had your stroke, you've had cancer and you've had kidney failure and a kidney replacement. how are you, tina? i'm happier than i've ever been in my life. i'm happier than i ever thought that life would become for me. so that means that most of my hardships came while i was young, growing up. and in the last days, when normally people suffer from old age and sickness, my happiness came. i am really thoroughly happy. and how is your health? it's very good. i go to the doctor now once a month for them to just check to make sure everything is going 0k.
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i take medicine once a day, but i have to for the rest of my life. i did fall a couple of days ago and broke something, so i was in a wheelchair and on crutches, but now i'm going through my sick period, and i think it'll take me right into the 90s or whatever. i'll be around for a while! you say in the book in 1968 you tried to take your own life. right. at that time, when i tried to commit suicide, my life was really down, it was the ike and tina days. i was terribly unhappy, extremely unhappy. continuously, day in, day out. i didn't have a way out. i didn't know... the way out was through the door, but that didn't come at the time, i just felt totally helpless. when i was really, really, really fed up, that's when ijust took a chance and said, "come with me," and left. —— come what may.
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i was really tired in my life and the situation i was in with ike. it's a tough question to ask somebody who's in a situation of domestic abuse. but you said it a minute ago, the other option was to walk out of the door. why didn't you? i didn't have a place to go, i didn't have money, didn't have access to money. i was leaving children. which i did try to leave, a couple of times, that wasn't written in the books. and the first time was when i had the experience of being whipped with a wire hanger. and then another time was something else. and i realised, well, you don't go back. the experience is once to leave, don't go back. you got married to ike. just tell me about the wedding, because it's unconventional. that was really bad. ike was crooked from day one to day two to the end of... everything he did was conniving. i was different.
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i thought the wedding was... i was fairytale—ish. i thought a man would ask you to marry him, wear the white dress. this was my wedding, a piece of paper pushed across, we signed, and after that we went to a brothel and watched sex. that's even hard to really think about. so, as far as i was concerned, nothing had changed. i was still with ike. i wasn't married. as faras... my thinking, i was the same what i was to him, which was he knew already that i no longer cared about him, and was paranoid about me leaving. he had already sensed that i was thinking of leaving. so, that was the beginning of the end. the beginning of... that violence, and how evil he was. it was every day, every moment. every now and then, there was some fun. sometimes it was, but i don't remember what it was,
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but i remember there were days that were lighter and nicer. but mostly, he was just a really... always angry with me. he treated me like i was a prisoner, and he was the god. phil spector, as we now know, is a fairly strange character, but what could he do for you, as a producer, what tina turner did he find? he wanted me to sing, not deliver. ike had me singing more of a gospel way. # when i was a little girl, i had a rag doll...# the melody of that song was... # when i was a little girl...# # i had a rag doll # 0nly doll i've ever owned # now i love you just the way i loved that rag doll # but only now my love has grown # and it gets stronger,
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in every way # and it gets deeper, let me say # and it gets higher, day by day # and do i love you, my oh my # yeah, river deep, mountain high...# the production... the real production of that song was what phil wanted. and so when i went to actually audition with phil, he said, "no, no, just the melody with the piano." i can sing anything when you tell me how to sing it. give me the melody. it was simple until the day of the studio when the room was full of all kinds of musicians, and that wall of sound. the famous wall of sound. that famous wall of sound. how you get that is with an instrument here, another
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instrument, four orfive instruments, the room was full of an orchestra. and never before, you'd never seen anything like that? no, never. and when that... immitates beat i chill now. i mean, it was another feeling to sing to that. # when i was a little... really to sing into that... immiates beat all of... i saw exactly what phil was producing. you're notjust a singer in that context, you're an instrument, aren't you? actually, yes. he's just playing you like... it was totally two different ways of singing. and then bono gave you a song, and you couldn't find the melody in that at all. bono said... i mean, when i received goldeneye... this is for bond. yeah. i thought, he didn't make a proper demo. he just... someone just threw the music together, and he had just written
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the song and when roger, my manager, said, "tina, this is the song..." he told me it was a big break. he said, "it's a little bit rough." i thought... how do i put this together? it wasn't showing me what the melody was. and so... yeah, i would have to say i created as close to what i thought the melody was of that. it was your melody, not bono's. it was. close enough that he gave me a guideline, but not enough to sing, just to sing it. i had to work really hard. i remember, i really closed myself off. i had just moved here when that happened. to really find... # goldeneye, no time...# that part was clear, but the verses, there was no guide. he said... i remember when he said, "i should've known... i don't know what he should've known, he wrote the song actually!
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but he was very pleased with the outcome of it. he was in the studio when the song was being recorded. yeah, that was another feat. that was hard. but i was proud of myself when i came up with a song out of what he sent to me. yeah. i don't think he really meant for me to sing it. meant that anything could come from that. i don't even really think he cared to write a song for bono with what he gave me. i wish i still had some of that stuff. but, yeah, i knew then i had talent to sing anything put before me. you could make it live. i could make it live. # you'll never know how i watched you from the shadows as a child. # you'll never know how it feels to get so close and be denied. # it's a gold and honey trap i've
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got for you tonight. # revenge is a kiss. # this time i won't miss. # now i've got you in my sight... so you became a swiss citizen, relinquishing your american citizenship, and here you are now, in 2018, looking back at your old country, at america. what are you seeing? difference. it's different than when i was there. my attitude about being there is, i had lived there the first 50 years of my life, but now i'm moving to another country. part of that was because of my relationship with erwin.
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part of that was i was always treated a little differently in those other countries than i was in america. because in america, a black singer, r&b singer, was always a black singer, r&b singer. that is what i was in america. they saw me as an r&b singer. and that is why rivers deep — mountain high was not pop enough to be pop in america, not black enough to be black, so didn't have a home. so that was the story there. and why i felt so comfortable leaving america was because they treated me not as a black person. they treated me just as a star. as a rock star. in britain, in holland, in germany? all over, they welcomed me with open arms, and ifelt really good and welcome. there is a tragic end to the story. it comes after the book is finished, really, and it tells the awful story of your son's suicide.
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yes. it's very hard to talk about, but i have managed, because it's been quite awhile. i still don't know what took him to the edge, because at that stage he had said to me that he had never met a woman that he felt that way about — which i met her during the funeral, and asked her about craig's life. his girlfriend? this is his new girlfriend. he was bringing her at 60 to meet me on his birthday. he had decorated his apartment, that i bought him years ago. he had gotten a newjob with a real estate — a very prominent real estate company, in california, he was very happy with. i have no idea what pulled him down, except something that followed him with loneliness. i think it was something with being alone.
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but, when i think that, then why didn't he call the new girlfriend, that gave him the lift? so, it wasn't that. he didn't call her. actually, it seemed like she wondered what happened to craig — he hasn't called. so it looked like whatever was bothering him, he was a very introverted person, he was very shy. so i didn't know, except now, when i listen back to our last conversations, i noticed a change. and he said, "hi, dear" — and nobody calls their mother "dear" — whenever he called me. and the last few times we talked, the conversation was different, and i didn't know that until after the suicide. in what way was it different? no "hi, dear." "i just want to hear your voice, and that laugh of yours." after the fact, i thought, "hear your voice"? he had never said that.
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"and that laugh of yours" — never. always just talked about coming to see the music. i sent him the book, and all that. everything was going good for craig every time he called me. but that last — i would say the last two times that he talked to me, it was no "hi, dear," no... you could tell when the voice is up or down, and the voice was down, as if he was just relaxed. let's end more cheerfully, because it seems that you are supposed to be retired. i am, except this. well, you are kind of not. you have a hit musical on the west end, which is on its way to broadway. you have this book. what else do you have planned? you know what i'm proud of? yes? go on. that, at this age, there's still something happening. you got that gift inside you, that voice.
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anybody can rock'n'roll with ike tonight, whose singing going to blow us away. my music doesn't sound old—style. there's a musical that's a hit. i think the documentary will be a hit. so, aside of being really tired of talking about myself, i'm really proud of what my future as a star became. i feel proud that i hold that in my hands. out of your entire canon of songs, which would you pick as the one you most enjoy performing? my songs? because i always covered. any song you have performed. there were quite a few that i loved that wasn't mine, because i was accustomed to covering. and i heard palmer — robert palmer's addicted to love. and of course i changed
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everything i covered. i like that one very much. it still moves me when i hear it today. i played it faster, changed some of the lines, but i made it my own. addicted to love, something was right about it being my song. my songs were good songs. terry britten, the covers that i did... proud mary. proud mary, of course. mark knopfler, private dancer. # you don't look at their faces, and you con‘t ask their names. # you don't think of them as human, you don't think of them at all. # you keep your mind on the money # keeping your eyes on the wall.
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# i'm your private dancer, a dancer for money. # i'll do what you want me to do. # i'm your private dancer, a dancer for money. # and any old music will do. you believe in reincarnation, you say so in the book. what would you like to come back as? i would like it to be easier. what do i want to come back...? i think as a teacher. i think i want to come back with the knowledge that i learned this lifetime, and i think i want to teach spiritually, to help people know how to live. and are you anna mae, or are you tina turner? both, i say both. tina turner is still on stage, people still see me as tina. i think even in my private life
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people might see a little bit of anna mae at some of the parties, or whatever, or my style of living. i don't party a lot, i don't travel a lot, i stay at home. so they can go by how i live my life here, to know that, no, she's not that way or this way. so they would know that that part of tina is only on the stage. so anna mae is a quiet, reclusive type, tina turner the showwoman. much less, i think. tina turner, thank you very much indeed. thank you. for much of england and wales there
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has been a day of blue skies and sunshine. certainly the case in one region this afternoon with temperatures up to 17 or 18 celsius, while even higher across aberdeenshire anne murray with for plenty of sunshine but further west across scotland a different story. bob and patchy light rain and drizzle and rain becomes more persistent as the night wears on across the northern and western isles, northern ireland and scotland mainly dry but cloud increasing. cloudy through the night across northern ireland, ringleader and that cloud extends into northwest england down into wales. further south and east clearer skies and with the lowest temperatures with mist and eastward through the day but the rain tending to fizzle out select with a band of cloud through the afternoon across the midlands and rain. behind it spells of sunshine, still quite windy for the
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northern half of scotland, the shower here, further south and east holding onto the best of the sunshine tour into the afternoon and hence the highest temperature 17, 18 nearly 19 celsius here, a few degrees cooler further north and west and the chilly field for the far north of scotland. keeping the strong winds night into monday, noticed a squeeze in the new week. not too many problems with mist and fog monday morning, another wet morning for the far north of scotland, windy also but further south across colony to northern ireland dry with balls of sunshine. the best of the sunshine across england and wales, but a cooler field for all of us on monday with highs between 11 and 1a celsius. high pressure is still with us as we go into tuesday. we still have this tightly packed isoba rs go into tuesday. we still have this tightly packed isobars across northern scotland looking to keep the strength of the wind further outbreaks of rain and for this major -- it outbreaks of rain and for this major —— it may filter its way a little further southwards tuesday down towards the central belt and maybe into the borders, increasing cloud across northern england and ireland,
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speu across northern england and ireland, spell the sunshine still and the best of the sunshine will be across central and southern england but temperatures still 11—1lidc. away from the far north of scotland much of next week looking mainly dry, all of next week looking mainly dry, all of us through wednesday and thursday there'll be spells of sunshine, but it could well turn colder by the weekend. this is bbc world news today. i'm martin stanford. our top stories. there's been international condemnation after saudi arabia admits the missing journalist jamal khashoggi was killed in its consulate. hundrends of thousands of protesters march through london, demanding a referendum on the government's final brexit deal. thousands of people travelling across central america to the us are now stranded on mexico's southern border. and two satellites developed in europe and japan leave earth for a 7—yearjourney to the planet mercury. hello and welcome
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