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hello. this is bbc news with lukwesa burak. we'll be taking a look at tomorrow mornings papers in a moment — first the headlines. protest organisers estimate that over half a million people have joined a march through central london to call for a referendum on the final brexit deal. the people's vote campaign say it's the biggest demonstration against brexit so far. saudi arabia admits journalist, jamal khashoggi died in its consulate in istanbul. turkey has vowed to reveal all the details about the killing, and said it will not accept a cover—up. afghanistan has held its first set of parliamentary elections since international forces ended their combat mission in the country four years ago. the duke and duchess of sussex have attended the opening ceremony of the invictus games in sydney. the sporting event is for injured current and former servicemen and women. hello and welcome to our look ahead
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to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are the political editor at the sunday mirror — nigel nelson, and political commentatorjo phillips. many of tomorrow's front pages are already in. we will have a chapter some of the stories with brexit dominating. the mail on sunday claims that theresa may will this week face a last—ditch fight to save her leadership as back bench mp's question her brexit strategy. the sunday telegraph leads with a piece the brexit secretary dominic raab has writen for the paper. in it he says the eu must drop its demand for a northern ireland border backstop arrangement. the sunday times reveales that civil servants have started secret contingency planning for a second
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referendum in response to fears that theresa may will struggle to get a brexit deal through parliament the sunday express meanwhile reports that prince charles has been urged to cut links with the saudi royal family after the killing of the journalist jamal kashoggi. that is just a little taste of the front pages. obviously we will have more at 11:30pm in our next edition of the papers. we will start off with the sunday times and brexit today. obviously we had the big march today. incredible figures. the sunday times says 670,000 people. it's an extraordinary amount. the one thing that is quite nice is obviously there was a bit of a cold atmosphere to be out in short, but atmosphere to be out in short, but at least people seem to be enjoying themselves. and clearly there is a
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mood now growing for the second referendum. i don't think there'll be one but the mood seems to be growing. there is a mood for people going out to the march in the nice sunshine. probably not the best weather. i'm not dismissing the fact people turned up because those aerial photographs you can see there are huge numbers of people, but whether it is going to get us any closer to a referendum i think is a completely different question. obviously theresa may has ruled that out. she has ruled that out, but there is also a question of the process by which you have a referendum. the electoral commission who are the people who run these things and organise these things have already said that there should be six months before... they have to work at what the question will be first of all, then they had to do testing and then there should be a six—month period. even as six months from now, we are a bit late, and
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there is a possibility that you could bring it down to ten weeks, but ten weeks would be the absolute minimum. and unless you are very, very clear about what you are actually asking people when there is nothing in the polls to show that people's views have significantly changed since the referendum... that is the key to a. what are you asking people? the other thing is the huge danger would be if you get 60% either way you probably do settle theissue, either way you probably do settle the issue, but what happens for insta nce the issue, but what happens for instance if you have a narrow remain when saying it was just a reversal of the last referendum. how can people believe in democracy. that then opens the danger of people going for populist leaders. the whole system begins to break down, so whole system begins to break down, so i'd tend to agree —— i don't agree withjohn, i'm in favour of a second referendum but only if there isa second referendum but only if there is a massive and demonstrable change of heart by the british pop —— public. 0k. obviously we
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of heart by the british pop —— public. ok. obviously we are saying it is another referendum rather than a second one. this people vote, that is the actual campaign there. there's a lot of confusion around it. there are other issues as well, not least of all scotland. who are perfectly at liberty to go ahead and have a second referendum on independence. staying with the sunday times, but moving across to their lead story. a killing zone, goodness me. is all getting a little bit extreme, the language we will see as we go through the papers. this isjohnny mercer who is called a rising star by the sunday times. he isa a rising star by the sunday times. he is a tory mp, used to be in the army. earlier today he was quoted as saying he cannot support the government and you cannot vote conservative and he would not be standing as an mp again which strikes me that doesn't quite ring with being a rising star, sound like someone on with being a rising star, sound like someone on the way but anyway... he has put his all into the waters of
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this. he is a great ally of david davis, the former brexit secretary, and this is all about theresa may going in front of the 1922 committee on wednesday, which is the tory's backbench, i don't know what you would call a really... committee. yes, but it is stored where they get it their test —— chests, and they will. i think the most significant figure here, if it was true, is what the sunday times is saying that the chairman of the 1922 has got 46 letters in from mps calling for a no—confidence vote. that would mean it is only two short of the number needed to have a confidence vote against theresa may. to the extent it she would quite like one. if she can wina it she would quite like one. if she can win a confidence vote and she could do so by 159 mps, one mp over 158 supporting her, it means that she cannot be challenged for another year and she she cannot be challenged for another yearand she might she cannot be challenged for another year and she might be having a free run of brexit then until coming up
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to the next christmas. where does borisjohnson fit to the next christmas. where does boris johnson fit into to the next christmas. where does borisjohnson fit into all of this? good question. as the papers go on, they're talking about asking boris johnson to stand aside, which would give david davis a clear run at the leadership should there be a bit —— leadership should there be a bit —— leadership contest. this is the man who spectacularly failed to win the war he leadership before and who also walked away from the job he was given to do, which was to negotiate brexit. we wonder if he is in for the long—term outlook and boris johnson standing outside for anybody, i think that is about as likely as a second referendum. the story is also being covered on the front of the mail on sunday. i had a quick look at the last time that theresa may sat in front of the 1922 committee, and it wasjune of last year. so, just after the election. i think at the time she promised she had got everybody in the mess and
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she would get them out. that is right. on wednesday the problem is the question the paper does say were rather question whether she will attend, even though she is forced to. i don't think they can force her to. i don't think they can force her to attend. somewhere it says she has been summoned, i'm not sure where but i don't think you can.|j been summoned, i'm not sure where but i don't think you can. i don't think you can force her to attend, probably a good idea to invite her to go along and hear the language sta rts to go along and hear the language starts to get even more extreme whereas one mp and —— and honestly —— anonymously quoted she should bring her on this because that is what they're after, after her blood and they are talking about this no—confidence vote coming within days, which is suggesting we are now getting to those 48 letters. itjust seems to me even if we have a no—confidence vote i cannot believe that 159 tory mps world vote against her. looking at this, it does say that theresa may will face a last
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ditch by two maintain her position. high—stakes, ditch by two maintain her position. high—sta kes, obviously for ditch by two maintain her position. high—stakes, obviously for a job, but what about her party? very high sta kes but what about her party? very high stakes for the party because if they're not careful this handful of extreme brexiteers will see a jeremy corbyn government, because the way things are at the moment, they're on an absolute night at and night —— nigel said before it is all about the math. she has such a tiny majority, she is propped up by the dup. david davis thinks he can walk m, dup. david davis thinks he can walk in, if indeed he won, and if indeed borisjohnson stood in, if indeed he won, and if indeed boris johnson stood aside and in, if indeed he won, and if indeed borisjohnson stood aside and didn't change his mind at the last minute, are the dup dan quinn to do the same deal with david davis? is david davis bentley to be able to —— to negotiate or whoever else might take over? wouldn't there be a point actually at which the british public might they hang on a minute, this is ridiculous, we need a general election. which by essence you end
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up election. which by essence you end up having. let's turn to the telegraph, and drop the backstop or uk will leave on time, this coming from dominic rob. yes. this is more or less the government position. the problem at the moment is theresa may has indicated she will go along with the transition period that michel barnier and the chief brexit negotiator for the eu has barnier and the chief brexit negotiatorfor the eu has put forward. this would take, give her a breathing space until christmas 2021. the danger of that if the eu will then demand a backstop on top of that, and we want a time limit whatever happens. whether or not we go with theresa may's preferred choice, which is a uk wide customs union, which will protect the northern ireland border, she needs to have that time—limited, or you go at michel barnier‘s proposal. the effect is the same we will still be
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ina effect is the same we will still be in a customs union for the next three years, that is what it amounts to. at the end of all that if we haven't got a solution to northern ireland i cannot see getting rid of the customs union, time—limited or not. we are absolutely at a stalemate. dominick rob will be in tomorrow so it's going to be interesting to see what he does have to say at ten o'clock tomorrow morning if you are watching. don't wa nt morning if you are watching. don't want to miss it. the sunday telegraph we will stay with, and it is the latest in the jamal khashoggi death. yes, which is now, the pressure is mounting around the world on the saudi regime. what is happening now is that the government is considering next steps. as we all know, for years and years and years kike generations of successive governments, we have always said, the british line has been we cannot not do deals with them. i know we
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turned a blind eye to what they're doing but think of the job. well, lots of people have been saying actually, think of the millions of people in yemen who are facing absolute starvation and famine, and we know there have been saudi attacks on humanitarian aid convoys and things like that. there is now a growing call, jeremy hunt the foreign secretary is questioning the credibility of saudi claims as we know liam fox the international trade secretary pulled out of davos in the desert, so now we are waiting to see what happens. whether there will be any sanctions, and whether america will do anything. president trump... david,. he has been very questioned —— cautious with his language saying i don't quite believe it, but think of our alliance here. which is what eve ryo ne alliance here. which is what everyone is talking about. the trade
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thing is so huge, it is huge for us. we went around the world saying let's sta nd we went around the world saying let's stand up to president putin after they try to poison the screwball family. we cannot been very well say i will turn a blind eye to what is a state sponsored murder —— the spripalfamily. the languagejeremy murder —— the spripalfamily. the language jeremy hunt has murder —— the spripalfamily. the languagejeremy hunt has been using is quite as well. like you say a lot of people say nothing will come of this. also, the is if you are a regime that can organise something thatis regime that can organise something that is so hideous, as killing in a consulate, in a foreign country and dispose of a body, you would have thought wouldn't you that you would actually have your story set up within it coming into... i mean, the turks now say they are going to release some evidence. this is something i would like to touch on in our next edition at 1130 because there's been a lot of attention paid on the us, the uk, saudi arabia all of those relations, but i am quite
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keen to know what the turkey think of this? exactly. 11:30pm. that is a cliffhanger. 11:30pm is our next edition of the papers. you canjoin us edition of the papers. you canjoin us for that. i am back at the top of the hour with more news on bbc news and in the meantime enjoy the film review. hello there and welcome to the film review here on bbc news. talking us through this week's cinema releases as ever is mark kermode. what have you got for us this week? very interesting week. we have fahrenheit 11/9, a new documentary by michael moore. we have dogman, a cannes prizewinner
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from matteo garrone. and they shall not grow old, and extraordinary great war documentary by peter jackson. so, fahrenheit 11/9, michael moore of course a great polemicist. is thisjust trump in his line of fire in this film? not entirely. so the title is an inverted fahrenheit 911, which itself was a play on fahrenheit 451. the 11/9 refers to trump's election. the film begins in the old fashion of how did we get here? what it then basically does is investigate the way that both democrats and republicans have kind of abandoned a disenfranchised portion of america, and what michael moore argues is that when that kind of thing happens, that's when you get the rise of trump. it's at its best when it is investigating specific examples such as he goes back to the flint, michigan water crisis in which the pursuit of money
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essentially meant the people ended up drinking poisoned water and politicians did not act well. in fact, there was what amounts to a cover—up. here is a clip. this is april cook hawkins. she was asked to participate in cover—up. i was the case manager here in flint, michigan. all of the results in regards to the blood levels, i put in those numbers and made sure all them are correct. and while doing so, she discovered that the government officials had cooked the books. my supervisor asked if i would go in and help them out with the numbers, and not show certain things. if someone came in and they test high the health department did not want that number to be shown. she began secretly making printouts of the falsified
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records and was afraid to show them to anyone. until she got them to me. is this an actual document? that you kept as a piece of evidence? yes. the normal is 3.5 and anything above 3.5 is considered a high level. six, six, five, six, five, five, six, seven, ten, six, eight, six, six, 14. not a single number that says 3.5 lower? no. how does this compare to michael moore's other films? it doesn't have anything like the impact of the film to which the title refers, which i think went on to become the biggest—selling documentary of all time, and it's questionable as to how much effect it will actually have. the interesting thing is, what i like about it is, it has less grandstanding and less stunts than his previous documentaries have, which i think is sometimes borderline flippant. there's also some uncharacteristic soul—searching from michael moore. he talks about his own relationship with some of these figures. we actually get to see him on roseanne some years ago with donald trump in which he admits, i went really easy on him, i went soft because they asked me to.
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i think it is sincere, passionate. i think the most important thing is it suggests there is a younger generation of people coming through who will refuse to be mistreated, who michael moore suggests are the future of the country and the beginning of a brighterfuture but i do not think it'll have anything like the impact of the film to which the title refers. ok, now, we've also got they shall not grow old which is a film by peterjackson and we will come to that in a minute, but let's do dogman as well. tell us about that. this is from matteo garrone. the maker of gomorrah. very gritty. a reality which is a very strange film about reality tv and tail of tails. this takes him back a little bit back to gomorrah. it is about a dog groomer who has a job on a desolate seafront. he wants to be liked by his neighbours, he wants to be liked by his daughter. he has this weirdly ingratiating smile but he also has the manner of a dog that has been beaten by its master and wants to please him but is also caring.
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he is bullied by this steroid thug who everyone knows is terrible, everyone knows they must do something about him but nobody will and in the end, marcello is the person who has to deal with him. what i really liked about this, firstly, it has a brilliant sense of location, it has real tragedy in it and real pathos. at the centre of it, is the actor who won the best actor award at cannes, i think deservedly so. i think it is a really terrific performance that holds the whole film together and is really the emotional core of it. a very deserving best actor winner. they shall not grow old this is peterjackson, famous movie director. you were interviewing him about this the other day and this is a fascinating project. yeah, so, the imperial war museum had at him to do something new with archive footage for the centenary of the armistice. he looked at the footage and thought actually the best thing to do would be to try and bring it up to date, take old black and white, silent footage and process it you make it look as contemporary as possible. what they did was, correct the speed, because you know old, silent films run at various speeds,
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often look a little bitjerky, then cleaning up the image, then doing a colourisation process which is done with incredible attention to detail, and finally actually getting actors to lip sync... they got lip readers to sort of figure out what people on screen were saying and then actors to fill in the blanks and then we hear, no narration but the voices of veterans that were recorded actually by a bbc archive and the whole thing comes together in an extraordinarily vivid portrait of these events, which reflects not just the horror of the war, but also, i think there is an important part of the documentary, the strange sense, at least at the beginning, of adventure. here's a clip. you lived like tramps. you did not polish any buttons. you wore any uniform, bits that you liked. all they were concerned with was that you were fit to fight. if nothing was happening coming to chat about where he came from, where he came from.
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everything was friendly. it was a terrific lot of kindness, in a way, to each person. when there was not a war active, it was really rather fun to be on the front line. it was not very dangerous, so like a camping holiday with the boys, with a slight spice of danger to make it interesting. does the fact that it is sort of no longer stuttering black and white, does it make you empathise with these guys on the front line? i think it does exactly that. we are used to seeing... some of these images we have seen before, but we're used to seeing them as black—and—white footage, historical document, partly the speed thing is very important, but also because it looks like old, grainy, black—and—white footage but if you look the camera that the battle of the somme was shot on, it is a big wooden box. yet suddenly, with this incredible processing, it looks contemporary, and brings it all closer and the first time i saw it, there is a section when it goes from black—and—white to colour you could hear an audible gasp in the auditorium. it is so much more than a gimmick.
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it is something that actually puts the humanity back into that footage. it is this extraordinary use of technology to restore the human element to footage which we thought we had seen but then somehow comes alive. there's trench footage that... it looks like it was shot yesterday. you see the faces, you see the pictures of how young they are, you see the smiles and the frantic feel, they feel like real individual people, not just figures from archive footage. jackson said very clearly, this is not a documentary about war, it's a story of those men. it is emotionally overwhelming. i think it is a real passion project and a real labour of love, and i did the interview with peterjackson when he played it and they were going to show it to schoolchildren, i think it'll have a huge effect. i think anyone who sees it will be really affected by it. it is like a compressed history of cinema, 100 years of technology put together. what did he say about why he wanted to do this so much? he has been interested in the first world war for a very long time and it was the opportunity
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because the imperial war museum involvement. he said the centenary is only going to come around once and he had this... what he did was, because peter jackson has worked so much with technology, he wondered what it could do. how could we make this with footage come alive? he said they did a test wheel and when they did that, they looked at it and went, that is astonishing. and it really... believe me, it is really breathtaking. you've never seen anything like it. it's an amazing artistic and technical achievement. yes, i thought so. stunning. so moving. so powerfully moving. ok, thank you, mark. best out at the moment? i love first man. have you seen this yet? going to see it this weekend. here is the thing, it's not a movie about space, it's not a movie about the moon, it's a movie about the loneliness and grief that happens to have a spaceship in the middle of it and i thought it was... again, i thought it was wonderful. i know some people said why is it so downbeat? because it is an internal story thatjust happens to be about the moon landing. the other thing about it is, it really captures that sense that these space rockets were held
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together with rivets and screws, and old flick switches, you are in a tin can on a massive amount of fuel. the bravery involved in it is quite extreme. incredible courage, yes. i loved it, really love it. ok, i'm looking forward to that. and best dvd? just briefly, the happy prince. i mention this because it is an interesting film. rupert everett directs and stars in a film about the last years and indeed days of oscar wilde. although i don't think it's dramatically perfect, every now and again you see a film and you think, this is made with passion and care, and something you can feel in every frame. for all the things that are not... that don't quite work in the film, i think it has a real sincerity and a real honesty about it. i mean, it is a slightly flawed work, but i admire its intentions and you can tell it is a heartfelt project. i'd always rather watch something that looked like someone really yearned to make it than something that was polished but felt
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a little bit careless. mark, fantastic. thank you so much. a quick reminder before we go that you will find more film news and reviews from across the bbc online at bbc.co.uk/markkermode. you can find all previous programmes, of course the bbc iplayer. that is it for this week. thanks so much for watching. goodbye. hello. for much of england and wales it has been a day of blue skies and sunshine. certainly the case in lyme regis this afternoon, with temperatures up to 17 or 18 celsius, slightly higher across aberdeenshire and murray with plenty of sunshine but further west across scotland a different story. mist hill fog, some patchy light rain and drizzle and that rain becomes more persistent as the night wears on across the northern and western isles, the northern highlands. elsewhere across scotland mainly dry
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but the cloud increasing. cloudy through the night across northern ireland, some rain later, and that cloud extends into northwest england down into wales. further south and east clearer skies and the lowest temperatures with mist and fog reforming as the night wears on. quite slow to clear through tomorrow morning, particularly through the m4 corridor southwards. meanwhile, a wet start to the day across northern and western scotland, northern ireland, slowly sliding its way south and eastwards through the day, but the rain tending to fizzle out, so we're just left really with a band of cloud through the afternoon across the midlands and wales. behind it spells of sunshine, still quite windy for the northern half of scotland, a few showers here, further south and east holding onto the best of the sunshine through into the afternoon and hence the highest temperature 17, 18 nearly 19 celsius here, a few degrees cooler further north and west and a chilly feel for the far north of scotland. where we're going to keep those strong winds as we go into monday. notice the squeeze in the isobars. further south we have this area of high pressure. not too many problems with mist and fog monday morning, another wet morning for the far north of scotland, windy also but further south across scotland into northern ireland dry with some
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spells of sunshine. the best of the sunshine across england and wales, but a cooler feel for all of us on monday with highs between 11 and 14 celsius. high pressure is still with us as we go into tuesday. we still have those tightly packed isobars across northern scotland so we will keep the strength of the wind further outbreaks of rain and some of it mayjust filter its way a little bit southwards on tuesday down towards the central belt and maybe into the borders, increasing cloud across northern england and northern ireland, spells of sunshine still and the best of the sunshine will be across central and southern england, but temperatures still 11—14dc. away from the far north of scotland much of next week is looking mainly dry, in fact for all of us through wednesday and thursday there'll be spells of sunshine, but it could well turn colder by the weekend. this is bbc news, i'm lukwesa burak. the headlines at 11:00pm: organisers say over 700,000 protesters have marched through london demanding another referendum on the uk's membership of the european union.
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saudi arabia admits journalist jamal khashoggi was killed in its consulate in istanbul. turkey vows to reveal all details, and president trump says he wants an explanation. iam not i am not satisfied until we find the answer, but it was a big first step, it was a good first step, but i want to get to the answer. there are other things that can be done, including sanctions. also coming up this hour: bepicolombo blasts off. two satellites developed in europe and japan are on their way to the planet mercury. it is hoped that together they can resolve the puzzles of the mysterious planet closest to the sun.
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