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talks in riyadh with the saudi crown prince mohammed bin salman, amid continuing international concerns over saudi involvement in the murder of the journalist jamal khashoggi. turkey says it will reveal the details of the killing later on tuesday. donald trump has threatened to boost his country's nuclear forces to compel russia to abide by an arms control treaty which he has said he plans to quit. mr trump told reporters that the united states would build up its nuclear arsenal until russia came to its senses. the longest sea bridge in the world is due to open shortly, with a ceremony which the chinese president, xi jinping, is expected to attend. the $20 billion project, which combines bridges and an undersea tunnel, will link hong kong and the macau peninsula to mainland china. now on bbc news, monday in parliament. hello and welcome to
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monday in parliament. the main news from westminster: theresa may says she's guided through the brexit negotiations by her very first words as prime minister. when i stood in downing street and address the nation of the first time i pledge the government i lead will not be driven by the interests of the privileged few but of ordinary working families. also on the programme: should the uk take a tougher line with saudi arabia? enough. it must not happen again. the government must wake up to the reality of who the crown prince villiers. and calls for doctors and nurses to receive mandatory training in learning disabilities following the death of oliver mcgowan. i'm going to read his mother's account of what happened. she is waging a powerful
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and brave campaign. she told me nothing can bring oliver back but she wants to ensure lessons are learned so that others in future will be safer. but first, the commons spent nearly three hours debating brexit with an update from the prime minister and two statements from other ministers on specific aspects of the process. the marathon discussions came after a huge rally in london on saturday. organisers say the march to parliament square was attended by 700,000 people. the demonstrators were calling for a referendum on any final brexit deal. in parliament, the first item on the brexit agenda was the cost to the uk of staying in a customs union — raised by conservativejohn redwood. it could be 15 billion or more for a year and we would be probably having to accept liability that might extend for the whole seven—yearfinancing period. we are desperately in need for more money for our schools,
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hospitals, universal credit. when will it rule out signing a withdrawal agreement which we cannot afford? the brass neck of the right honourable gentleman. he spent eight years being a cheerleader for austerity and he comes today, it is unbelievable. mr speaker, we hear that 95% of the agreement is done as though that is supposed to be a assurance. perhaps i could remind the government that 95% of the titanic's journey was concluded successfully. the government is in a negotiation and there are a number of issues that are not yet resolved. with respect to the final state and our future freedom to trade those are matters that will be reported on to this house before there is a meaningful vote. the honourable gentleman needs to be patient, a little longer, as we move through that last 5% and deal with those matters.
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next, another urgent statement, secured by another conservative dominic grieve. mr grieve has campaigned for parliament to have a proper say on any brexit deal. he says a government memo a fortnight ago implied that it was going back on a promise to give mps a "meaningful vote". i find the position as stated in the memorandum entirely unsatisfactory. it departs from the plea and assurances given repeatedly to the has that we would be unable to express desires for alternatives when voting to reject or accept any deal. my right honourable friend knows a lot depends on this house on trust. the difficulty with the memorandum is that on one reading of it, i'm glad to hear what he said at the dispatch box, it undermines trust the government intends to honour is the commitments it gave to the house.
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he fears the government is in favour of an amendable motion, but as the memorandum that he cites makes clear at paragraph four, the approval will be a substantive motion, that was his first point, and therefore will be amendable. i hope that gives him some reassurance. if i understand him correctly, he may wish to change the terms of the agreement that is being struck. i think that would come up against the very real, practical and diplomatic obstacles that so late in the day and there wouldn't be time to revisit the negotiation. secondly, from a practical, diplomatic point of view, is my right honourable friend really suggesting that at that point we would actually be offered different or more favourable terms, i think it's unlikely in the extreme. reed come off it. if the motion is amendable but not any meaningful way, it's not a meaningful vote
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and to this hauser would take it. i thank my right honourable friend. all i would say is that there is nothing meaningless about this vote. you would actually have one of the most ground—breaking decisions this hauser has had to decide regeneration, which is whether or not to accept the deal negotiated by this government with the eu that works for all parts of the uk and i would hope that at that point we would have some consensus in this house to accept the deal and move forward to the implementing legislation. and finally, the prime minister theresa may took her turn at the despatch box to update the commons on progress made at her meeting with eu leaders last week. she reported that 95% of the withdrawal agreement was now settled. but there was one sticking point how to ensure there was no return to border with customs checks between northern ireland and the republic. theresa may said the uk and the eu were working on a plan for the whole
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of the uk to enter into a temporary customs arrangement with the eu. she also said the uk must leave open the option of extending the implementation period of any deal. i do not want to extend the implementation period and i do not believe that extending it will be necessary. i see any extension or being in any form of backstop as undesirable. by far the best outcome for the uk, for ireland and for the eu is that our future relationship is agreed and in place by the ist of january 2021. she caused a stir when she harked back to her first words as prime minister. when i stood in downing street and addressed the nation for the first time i pledged that the government i lead will not be driven by the interests
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of the privileged few but of ordinary working families. shouts and laughter and that is what guides me every day in these negotiations. the conservative party has spent the past two years arguing with itself instead of negotiating a sensible deal in the public interest. even at this crucial point, there is still bickering amongst themselves. the prime minister says 95% of the deal is done but previously she had told us nothing is agreed until everything is agreed. which is it? their brexit negotiations have been a litany of missed deadlines, shambolic failure, and now they are begging for extra time. there was condemnation from mps in all parties of the language used
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by unnamed conservative mps to criticise theresa may in newspaper stories at the weekend. it is crystal clear that the eu will not accept any deal that does not include the backstop for northern ireland. those who attempt to wreck the backstop will be responsible for a no—deal brexit. the eu is not bluffing. the comments from tory mps in the papers this weekend using crass and violent language in relation to the negotiations as abhorrent and irresponsible. those responsible need to withdraw and apologise. such language has no part to play in our public discourse. it is disappointing when death threats of violence against the prime minister are talked about that we get noise, and all we get is a background noise and a lack of understanding
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of the seriousness of the situation we are then. they should be ashamed of themselves. the sunday times and the times reported that whitehall, including the brexit department is now carrying out contingency planning for a people's vote. can the prime minister elaborate and confirm that this has ministerial endorsement? that is not correct, the government does not support a second referendum. our position is that the backstop is not necessary and is damaging. the eu has made it clear that the backstop is designed to keep northern ireland as part of the customs union territory of the eu. the prime minister and i have had many disagreements on many things but i stand with her completely against the violent dehumanising and misogynistic language we have seen. the whole house will condemn it because it demeans everyone of us. the prime minister has previously said that nothing is agreed until everything is agreed.
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could she tell the house what's the proportion of the future partnership agreement she thinks has been reached? i thank the right honourable lady for the comments that she made about abusive language. the position we are in this that 95% of their withdrawal agreement has been agreed and we have a substantial part in relation to security, services, transport and other issues, in terms of the structure and scope of that relationship. none of this is finally agreed until we look at the package and agree the entire package together. to cut hence nothing is agreed until everything is agreed. erything is agreed. may ijoin those who condemn the excessive and violent language that has been used. i hold up the prime minister as a role model because she is always courteous even to those who disagree with her on this important matter. coming to the substance of it, when the implementation period was announced it was going to be
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of what was agreed, it now seems to be a period for further negotiation, not being sure of where we are going. does the prime minister know where we're going? first of all i thank my honourable friend for the comments he has made about the remarks and language that were used at the weekend. we have set out our plan, we are negotiating on the basis of that plan with the european union. significant elements on the structure and scope have been agreed. significant number of the 700,000 people who marched for a people's vote on saturday were people who own their own businesses and they are in a state of despair because they need certainty and they have not got certainty. two and a half years ago they were told there would be a trade deal in place before we left. now we are told we will be lucky if we get it in two years. isn't this the truth, the government's policy is for us to be in a transition period, a never ending transition period, to a destiny that is completely unknown, of which we have no say
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and no control and that is something that nobody voted for? anna soubry. you're watching monday in parliament with me, kristiina cooper. coming up: worries about british soldiers piling on the pounds. captain mannering's doughty band of men who formed the home guard... the foreign secretary, jeremy hunt, has told mps that saudi arabia's claim that the journalist jamal khashoggi died in a fight at its consulate in istanbul was not credible. turkish officials believe mr khashoggi, a prominent critic of the saudi government, was murdered by a team of saudi agents inside the building,
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and say they have evidence to prove it. saudi arabia originally said he had left the building alive, later changing its explanation to say he had died in a fight. at the start of her eu statement, theresa may said it was improtant to get to the truth of what had happened. lam sure i am sure the house willjoin me in condemning the killings in the strongest possible terms. condemnation is not enough. what matters now is the action the government is prepared to take. on friday, the saudi government released the preliminary findings of their investigation. they later announced the arrest of 18 people, the sacking of two officials which is an important start to the process of accountability. but i will say
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frankly to the house that became —— the claim that jamal khashoggi died ina fire the claim that jamal khashoggi died in a fire is not a credible explanation. he said there was an "urgent need" to find out what happened on the 2nd of october. honourable members know that we have an important strategic partnership with saudi arabia involving defence and security cooperation, which has saved lives on the streets of britain. we also have a trading partnership that supports thousands ofjobs. but whilst we will therefore be thoughtful and considered in our response, i have also been clear that if the appalling stories we are reading turn out to be true, they are fundamentally incompatible with our values and we will act accordingly. labour said the saudi crown prince had already shown he had no respect for the rule of law and took his allies for fools. and relies on the fact that his lies will be believed, he will be exonerated and that everyone will return to business as usual once the publicity has subsided. not this time. enough!
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it must not happen again. the government must wake up to the reality of who the crown prince really is. it has been just seven months since the prime minister rolled out the red carpet for him at chequers, fawned all over him and hailed him as a great reformer. how utterly foolish she looks now, as some of us predicted she would do. germany has halted arms sales to saudi arabia. the secretary of state prefers to wait. is he suggesting that there is some way in which mr khashoggi could have met his death in that embassy that would be acceptable to him? and will he accept that whatever the result of the investigation, responsibility for the murder must lie with the autocratic ruler of what is now shown to be a murderous state. foreign secretary. well, i think i've made it very clear that we do have to find out who was ultimately responsible for what happened and act accordingly. but the question about arm sales, i think she is misrepresenting the approach that we have in this country, which,
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as i mentioned earlier, was set up by robin cook, a labour foreign secretary. in the last few years, we have suspended or revoked licences for arms sales to russia, ukraine, egypt, libya and yemen. in 2015 alone, we refused 331 licences. we do have one of the strictest regimes in the world and we will follow the proper processes we have in place in the case of saudi arabia as well. i do welcome the announcement he made about the trade secretary not attending the upcoming summit in saudi arabia. but can he confirm that it won'tjust be ministers that won't be going? there won't be one official from any department in london or any official from any of our embassies around the world? foreign secretary. we have made the decision about the trade secretary, we are looking at the issue of the attendance of other british
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officials and we're going to make a final decision shortly, but i can tell him i think it's highly unlikely. there's been a call to ensure that health professionals are given mandatory training in how to deal with people who have learning disabilities. it follows the death of eighteen year old oliver mcgowan who had autism and a mild learning disability. his mother, paula, said his death could have been prevented if doctors and nurses had understood how to make "reasonable adjustments" for him. mrs mcgowan‘s account of events was related by a labour mp daniel zeichner. i'm going to read his mother's account of what happened. she's waging a powerful and brave campaign. as she told me, nothing can bring oliver back but she wants to ensure that lessons are properly learned so that others in future will be safer. this is oliver's story in his mother's words. she says: "oliver enjoyed college, playing football "and was an amazing athlete — in training to become a paralympian.
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"oliver loved life and being with his family. "he was bright, achieving gcse and b—tech qualifications, "was a member of the school council and head prefect. "he was a fit and active teenage boy. "and yet, on the 11th of november 2016, aged 18, "he died in southmead hospital, bristol in circumstances "that his family believe were entirely avoidable." oliver was admitted to hospital after suffering from seizures. a&e staff were presented with oliver's hospital passport, detailing how his autism and learning disability affected him and how to make reasonable adjustments. it also detailed his allergies to anti—psychotic medications. doctors said it was to control his anxiety when he woke up. he was given antipsychotic drugs
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against the wishes of his family. doctors said it was to control his anxiety when he woke up. even though we explained to him that when any seizures had finished, oliver immediately returned to his normal, mild—mannered self. oliver never woke up. the olanzapine caused him to develop neuroleptic malignant syndrome, or nms. his brain swelled so badly, it was bulging out of the base of his skull, causing irreversible brain damage. we were told that oliver would be blind, deaf, no memory, no speech and would be reliant on breathing machines, including tube fed. oliver died on armistice day, a fitting day given oliver's father is a serving senior officer in the air force, and oliver had lived his whole life as a military child. we can all agree that oliver was certainly a very brave young man.
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last week 20 members of a child grooming gang were given long jail sentences for the sexual exploitation of teenage girls in the huddersfield area of west yorkshire. at three crown court trials it was learnt that 15 girls were sexually abused over seven years. several were drugged before being passed round gang members to be abused. in the house of lords, a former attorney general questioned the time it had taken to bring the perpetrators to justice. justice delayed is justice denied. and this seems to have happened from huddersfield to rochdale, halifax to newcastle, and many other towns. criminal law practitioners have sought to maintain the rule of law for victims and perpetrators without fear or favour. has timely investigation, prosecution been sacrificed in favour of social cohesion? i don't think that what has happened here is political correctness. i think that given the sheer number of people involved and the types of crime they have committed against very vulnerable girls it has taken time to bring this case forward. the last time i was driven around north bradford by one of our local councillors i did not see a single policeman on the street all afternoon. i saw three people peddling drugs on the streets as we passed by. does that not mean that we need larger resources than we have at the moment to cope with the underlying social issues
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which give rise to this sort of exploitation of children, male and female children? a former metropolitan police commissioner referred to cuts in police budgets. the simple fact is, the minister is explaining small packets of money that have been put into a particular problem. my successor but two, cressida dick, has 20% less money than i had when i left ten years ago. will the minister accept that it is impossible for the police service to go on with 20% less money without something giving. something is already starting to give and the government must take action. this type of child sexual abuse and exploitation is something that requires a dedicated approach to a specific problem. but i do not resile from the fact, and my right honourable friend the home secretary recognises this, that the police have in terms of all the things they have got to do, the strain they are under, have got significant burdens on them. if we extrapolate nationally
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the report on rotherham, and other reports on telford and oxford, there appear to have been upwards of 250,000 young white girls raped in this century, very largely by muslim men, and given these girls are usually raped several times a day for years, what is the government answer to the chief constable of northumberland, of northumbria, who has just said that there is every likelihood that these grooming gangs are operating in every one of our major cities, what is the government doing to prosecute those in authority who have turned a blind eye to this because they were afraid of being islamophobic and so on? noble lords across the house have outlined the various child sexual abuse perpetrated in various
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parts of the country, and one thing we can say above all else is what these people target is vulnerability, it is not specific to race, creed or colour, it is vulnerability. now, are british soldiers piling on the pounds? a conservative mp hugo swire certainly thinks so. he harked back to the bbc sitcom dad's army about the british home guard in world war two, which was largely made up of volunteers who were unable to serve in the miltary because of their age. mr swire joked that dad's army would give some soldiers a run for their money. captain manwairing's doughty band of men who formed the walmington on sea home guard are in danger of looking like special forces on account of their ability to jump out of corporaljones' converted bread van. compared with a modern army of 18,000 clinically obese soldiers and servicemen, 398 with type 2 diabetes, 160 on prescribed diet pills, and 16 have had liposuction.
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when is the secretary of state going to do something about the state, the fitness, of the british armed forces? i am grateful to my right honourable friend for raising this matter although of course as i look across this chamber i wonder whether or not this is the right establishment to be criticising the british army for obesity. however, every year all soldiers are required to carry out fitness tests. my right honourable friend will have realised that from 1st of april we are changing that annual fitness test to make sure it is more aligned to the combat roles that our soldiers are required to carry out. that's it from monday in parliament. don't panic though. david cornock will be with you for the rest of the week. but from me, goodbye. arctic wind makes it feel much
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colder by the end of the week. today, however, we have some north—westerly wind. today, however, we have some north-westerly wind. scotland, over the pennines. rain for western and northern scotland, sunshine for eastern scotland and hazy sunshine elsewhere. the best of it across england and wales and the eastern side. a little warmer, 16, 17 degrees. through the evening the wind is as down through the north but we still blow in cloud from the north—west even into england and wales. the result is that it will not be as: tuesday night into wednesday morning with temperatures reaching between seven and 11 degrees. more cloud coming into the
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north and west of the uk on wednesday to more sunshine for southern and eastern areas. the rain eases off on the north—west in the breeze dies down as well. temperatures again around 16, 17 degrees. as i say, it will be much colder at the end of the week. welcome to bbc news, broadcasting to viewers in north america and around the globe. my name is mike embley. our top stories: as turkey is preparing to reveal all about the murder of the the journalist jamal khashoggi at the saudi consulate in istanbul, the us treasury secretary holds private talks in riyadh with the saudi crown prince. president trump warns that the us will build up its nuclear arsenal to pressure russia and china, as he threatens to pull out of a landmark treaty. it's a threat to whoever you want, and it includes china, and it includes russia, and it includes anybody else that wants to play that game. cristiano ronaldo says the truth is coming, as he speaks publicly
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for the first time about the rape allegation against him. spanning 55 km, the world's longest sea bridge, linking hong kong and macau to mainland china, is opening for business.
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