hello, it's monday, it's 9 o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire. welcome to the programme. air accident investigators are about to hold a news conference about the helicopter crash outside leicester city's football stadium on saturday — which killed the club's chairman and four other people. we'll bring that to you live, as soon as it happens. also — this programme has learned that women as young as 35 are being told that they're too old for ivf on the nhs. national guidelines say it should be offered up to the age of 42, but 12 areas of england are ignoring that. i felt cheated, i felt really disappointed. i felt angry initially. and i felt that it wasn't handled in the best possible way. it was also kind of matter—of—fact, "this is how it is," kind of "get on with it." the government's told us blanket restrictions like this are "unacceptable." a plane carrying 188 people has crashed into the sea,

just after it took off from the indonesian capitaljakarta. translation: we have found a few ids, passports, driver's licenses, health insurance cards, as well as bank account books. we have deployed 150 search and rescue personnel, and another 150 from the military and police. so far no survivors have been found. and it's budget day. the chancellor will set out his spending plans this afternoon. one thing already announced is more money for the health service, inlcuding mental health. morato more people attend a&e with a mental illness, are in crisis —— more and more people. so every a&e needs to have appropriate health support, mental health support, alongside the physical health support a&e has always provided for, then there is the significant challenge of making sure people with some of the most serious mental illnesses can be treated and cared for appropriately, and that needs more support to. —— more support too.

hello, welcome to the programme. good morning. we're live until 11 this morning, as we are each week day. our exclusive story this morning is that 12 areas of england appear to have a ban on ivf on the nhs for women over the age of 34. that's despite national guidelines saying it should be offered up to the age of a2. so this morning we are asking you... have you missed out on ivf because of your age? let me know your experience. maybe you have considered moving house to an area where you're entitled to treatment? do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about — use the hashtag victoria live. by the way, if you're emailing and are happy for us to contact you — and maybe want to take part in the programme — please include your phone number in your message. if you text, you'll be charged at the standard network rate. our top story today: a passenger plane with 188 people on board has crashed into the sea off the coast of the indonesian

island of java. the boeing 737 had taken off from jakarta on a domestic flight to a tin—mining region when it lost contact with air traffic control. it was due to arrive at depati amir airport in pangkal pinang an hour later, but 13 minutes into the flight authorities lost contact with the plane. there were over 180 people on board the crashed plane. some of theirfamilies have been arriving at jakarta's airport, seeking information about their loved ones. they were escorted away by officials. out at sea, an oil slick appeared to mark the crash location. the plane went down in daylight in good weather. some debris has also been recovered. this appears to be an emergency chute. there are also fragments of fuselage and personal items. the aircraft crashed in relatively shallow water. divers are going down to pinpoint the wreckage. one of the priorities is to locate the aircraft's flight

and cockpit recorders. translation: we have found a few ids, passports, driver's licenses, health insurance cards, as well as bank account books. we have deployed 150 search and rescue personnel, and another 150 from the military and police. the plane crashed just 13 minutes after take—off. real—time tracking showed it was struggling to gain height. the crew had asked to return to the airport. the operator of the plane was lion air, indonesia's largest low—cost carrier. until 2016, it was banned from flying in european aerospace because of a poor safety record, but that had improved recently. the crash involved a new aircraft that had only gone into service in august. this man had an incredible tale to tell. he was supposed to be on the plane but missed it because of heavy traffic. six of his work colleagues were on board.

at sea, there's plenty of debris, but no sign of any survivors. the airline said there had been a technical issue with this particular plane on a previous flight, but that had been resolved according to the proper procedures. andy moore, bbc news. andy moore is here. what other possible theories as to why this plane came down? well, weather conditions were good, clear blue skies, daylight. you can pretty well rule that out. it is pretty obvious if you look at the raw data from the flight, there was some sort of problem with the aircraftjust two or three minutes after it took off. it descended, about 500 feet, the speed increased, then for the rest of the flight it seems the pilots were struggling to maintain altitude and it should be sending smoothly to something like 20,000

feet. we also know that, according to the company lion air, there was an issue on the flight the day before, a flight to bali, and the airline are saying that issue, whatever it was, was resolved according to procedures, but we know that engineers looked at the flight, the plane to bali, it returned to ja ka rta the plane to bali, it returned to jakarta and they have a second look at the problem, whatever it was, so are certainly was this issue the day before, there was some indication that on that flight there may have been a similar issue of a loss of height at some stage during that flight. height at some stage during that flight. thank you, andy. andy moore, reporting. we are awaiting a news conference on the investigation into why that helicopter crashed outside leicester city's football ground at the weekend. we will bring that to you live as soon as it begins. in the meantime let's bring you the rest of the morning's news so far with

joanna leicester city have confirmed that its owner was among five people who died when a helicopter crashed outside its stadium. vichai srivaddhanaprabha, two members of his staff, the pilot and a passenger were killed just minutes after it had taken off. a book of condolence will be opened at the king power stadium this morning. 0ur reporter lauren moss has this report. a football club with a broken heart. leicester city fans are coming to terms with the loss of the chairman who transformed them into premier league champions. this is the devastating crash site where the helicopter came down outside the king power stadium moments after taking off on saturday night. four others on board have been named. pilot eric swaffer from guildford, and his girlfriend izabela roza lechowicz — she too was a qualified pilot. two members of vichai srivaddhanaprabha's staff also died, kaveporn punpare and nursara suknamai. supporters have been laying scarves and flowers to honour and remember the owner and remember the owner, whom the club has called

a great man. he brought city up from nothing, really. and when we were in the premiership, i really, really think we won it because of him. the family have done so much for us and for the city, and so cruelly taken away, it's awful. what he's brought to the club, the community, it's been absolutely amazing. mr srivaddhanaprabha became part of football folklore when leicester won the premier league in 2016. members of that team have paid tribute. jamie vardy‘s called him a legend. christian fuchs has simply said "thank you". and harry maguire, whojoined later, says he'll never forget the chairman's support. as the investigation into what caused the crash continues, a city's in mourning, remembering, as one sign says, "the belief, the joy and the memories." lauren moss, bbc news. the chancellor phillip hammond will deliver his last budget before brexit today.

it's understood there'll be extra money for mental health services in england as part of a £20 billion boost for the nhs which was announced injune. but the chancellor is under pressure to find extra funding for other public services after years of austerity. with us now is our political guru norman smith. good morning. joanna, good morning. i think everyone at westminster waiting for brexit mode, not expecting a big bonanza budget today, but it seems mr hammond has some money to play with with better than expected tax receipts, which can provide, as we have heard, £2 billion more for mental health. we know there will be more money for roads, for rural broadband, and more money for the high street, so there will be little bits and pieces, but no big overarching spending splurge to signal the end of austerity,

although this morning the health secretary matt hancock was suggesting we would be given a sign of better times ahead... what we will see this afternoon is the effort over many years to bring britain's public finances into good order starting to really bear fruit, and people have made sacrifices over the last decade or so since the financial crash. that has been necessary, but i think what we'll see today is, coming out of that, the biggest and longest ever settlement for the nhs, the extra £20 billion i mentioned, and support in other areas too. 0ne one area to look out for, i would suggest, universal credit, which could provide the chancellor with a symbol, at least, that austerity is being eased, if he chooses to reverse the £2 billion worth of cuts imposed by his predecessor george 0sborne. imposed by his predecessor george osborne. thank you, for -- thank

you, norman. women over 3a are being automatically refused ivf treatment on the nhs in 12 areas of england, this programme has found. ivf should be offered to women until age 42, guidelines say, but new figures show around 80% of areas are failing to do this. the department of health said "blanket restrictions" were "unacceptable". sara cox will be the new presenter of radio 2's drivetime show. the appointment comes after simon mayo, who had led the programme for eight years, announced he was leaving just a few months after he began co—presenting withjo whiley. sara cox says she was "beyond chuffed" at the news. the duke and duchess of sussex have met volunteers at a new zealand cafe that helps to highlight mental health issues. they then met schoolchildren who were waiting outside. one little boy, joe, seemingly shy at his royal encounter, was given a hug from his teacher as he met meghan and was tickled by harry as the prince tried to cheer him up. earlier, the duchess of sussex also praised the achievements

of new zealand women, who were the first in the world to get the right to vote. in looking forward to this very special occasion, i reflected on the importance of this achievement, but also the larger impact of what this symbolises. because, yes, women's suffrage is about feminism, but feminism is about fairness. that is a summary of the latest bbc news. more at 9:30am. thank you, and thanks for getting in touch this morning. some messages from you about ivf, here we go. robert on twitter, "i met my wife at a1. she was 39. after we had been together to make years we wanted kids and it was clear we would need help. turned down due to age. neither of us have kids from previous relationships. i think it is unfair when younger couples who already have children can receive treatment." another one. "the nhs budget is an infinite. it

never is will be. under the initial premises of how it was set up this would not have been commented. we need a bigger debate about what the nhs is for with a discussion on the tax rise to fund this..." "i think there is a little more to it than " let's there is a little more to it than "let's slap an age on it." it has to be when the body is most receptive to it and that is in the younger yea rs. " to it and that is in the younger years." more of those to come but do let us know your own experiences, and if you want to join the conversation... wherever you are in the country, you're very welcome. 0n screen. “— the country, you're very welcome. 0n screen. —— details on screen. let's get some sport... holly hamilton is at the bbc sport centre. lewis hamilton is doing absolutely brilliantly! yes, fifth championship for lewis

hamilton. it's impossible to overstate what exactly this means for lewis hamilton — if we're being honest — it was never really in doubt going into yesterday's mexico grand prix. he only needed to finish seventh to seal the deal — and despite suffering with a few issues with his tyres throughout the race in the end he crossed the line in fourth, with his only title rival sebastian vettel in second. max verstsappen of red bull winning the race — but all eyes were on hamilton — he knew he had done enough — celebrating with a few donuts on the track there... claiming a 5th title with two races still remaining this season. i think it's going to take

a while to kick in, but honestly i feel very humble right now. it's a very humbling experience, you know? of course i dreamt of it, and i worked towards it, but did i know i was going to get number five? of course not, of course not. even today, all these things going against us. it was nerve—racking, it was quite an emotional race because it started off and i couldn't hold onto it, and i was falling further back. i held on, kept pushing and i noted the car as much as i could to get home. 0ne one thing you rarely see from lewis hamilton, emotion. but there was a point after the race when they were trying to chat with him and he was so trying to chat with him and he was so busy trying to say thank you, congratulating other people, it wasn't his priority, so despite what some might say he did come across as quite humble after the race. how long do you think you will be winning world titles for? gnaws at this point? so many projections certainly in the papers this morning —— who knows, at this point? certainly his name be in history books. this now sees lewis hamilton's name placed in the history books alongside

juan manwell fangio and michael schumacher — although schumacher has two more — but he was also 33 years old when he won his 5th championship so it is likely that hamilton could go on to surpass him. let's put it this way — if motor racing is defined by its drivers, we are surely now in the hamilton era. the way he's been driving this season, no one can match him — and we've seen his hard work evolve away from the track. creating his own fashion line, his own music — he simply doesn't follow the the concept of what a typical grand prix driver is. in a way that makes his achievement even more remarkable. and, separately, the thai boys rescued from the cave, they were at the manchester united game? yes,

those boys trapped in a cave for over two weeks back injuly, yesterday they were honoured guests at old trafford, given the vip treatment, all decked out in their man united scarves and given a standing ovation by supporters in the club had of course invited them after hearing about their ordeal, and on saturday as well they met with jose and on saturday as well they met withjose mourinho, who give them a huge welcome, big hugs all round, and they even met the united legend eric cantona, as well. they clearly they managed to bring some luck with united going on to beat everton 2—1. iimagine i imagine they will be invited back whenever they want if they can keep that result going. holly, thank you for that. well, today the chancellor sets out his spending plans in the autumn budget — the treasury's biggest announcement of the year.

we've already heard quite a few details of what will be in it — including new money for roads, high street shops, the nhs, and defence. last month theresa may promised that the age of austerity is over. but is it really? in a moment we'll be talking to a bunch of people about what they want to see in today's announcement. but, first, here's a quick look at what the chancellor might say this afternoon in the house of commons... the budget. here's what it could mean for you. this is the chancellor, philip hammond, and he's in charge of the country's purse. today, he's going to be announcing how the government plans to spend all the money it raises. and i've chosen a balanced approach, which places equal weight on getting the debt down, keeping taxes low, supporting our public services and investing in the skills and the infrastructure and the technology that will drive britain's future prosperity. the budget speech is important because it affects things like how much money you getting your pay packet to how much you are able to receiving benefits, or how much gets spent on the nhs. a few details of what are likely to be in the budget have already been made public. for example, local councils in england are to get an extra £a20 million to try and tackle the growing number of potholes on the roads. and there will be 1.5 billion set

aside to try and help small, local high—street retailers. but these are relatively small issues when compared to the major things the chancellor has to think about. the one issue overshadowing everything is brexit. this will be the last major budget speech before we due to leave the eu next year. as brexit draws closer, businesses have been edgy. so will he announce plans to try and encourage them to invest in the uk? the problem the chancellor has on brexit is that he can't really plan properly until he knows whether or not the uk is going to leave the eu with a deal. philip hammond has said that if there is no deal, the potential impact on the economy could mean there may have to be a new budget with revised plans. so when it comes to the biggest issue, it's a wait and see. away from brexit, the chancellor will have to consider that economic growth has slowed. but public services like the nhs

are still clamouring for cash. there are also demands for more money for universal credit, the controversial welfare reform. so where will the extra money come from? will it be from more taxes, or will it come from cuts to other services? because a decade after the financial crash, people need to know that the austerity it led to is over, and that their hard work has paid off. the prime minister said in her speech to the conservative party conference that austerity was coming to an end, so the chancellor will have to work out how he can increase public spending to fund what the prime minister wants versus how he can make sure public spending remains under control. but, ultimately, all of this depends on brexit. if there is no deal, the government may have to adopt a new economic strategy. we are saying to theresa may, "if you bring that deal back, that will protect jobs in the economy, you've got our support.

but, if you can't, move to one side and we'll deal with it. " it means all of the details announced in the budget later could all have changed by the 29th of march next year, when the uk leaves the eu. matt hancock is england's health secretary — i spoke to him just before we came on air. he says patients, including young people will see a real improvement in mental health services... we know that we need to get mental health services onto the same parity as physical health services. this is the work of a generation, and we haven't even started measuring access to mental health services —— we only started measuring about two or three years ago. what will that money be spent on and what difference will our viewers the? for instance we know there is an increasing prevalence of mental illness at schools, especially

teenage girls, with all the pressures thereunder, so we will be making sure there is more mental health support in schools, in every secondary school. also more and more people attend a&e with a mental illness, or in crisis. so every a&e needs to have appropriate mental health support alongside the physical health support that a&e has always provided. then there is also always provided. then there is also a significant challenge of making sure people with some of the most serious mental illnesses can be treated and cared for appropriately, and that needs more support as well. you want or nhs figures suggest by 2020 only a third of children and young people will be getting the mental health support they need, and that's partly because of the huge cuts your government has made since 2010 in this area. it's devastating for those people who won't get that because of full scots. no, we are putting more money into mental

health... having cut millions since 2010 -- health... having cut millions since 2010 —— because of those cuts. health... having cut millions since 2010 —— because of those cutsm health... having cut millions since 2010 -- because of those cuts. it is rising at the moment but i want to see it go up further, the budget for mental health. there is a big increase in the prevalence of mental illness and a big increase in people wanting to talk about it, which i think is a good thing because in the past there has been this stigma attached to mental illness, and i think as a society we are coming through that. so we do have more people presenting with mental illnesses, and that means we need to respond to that with more support. so what about those young people and children who still won't get that support after 2020 ? children who still won't get that support after 2020? this funding will help put that right. the one third figure you mentioned was... it is one of the reasons we are now putting in more money now. i think if people with a physical health condition were told, "actually, you know, only a third of people will be treated within a decent timeframe,"

we would rightly say, "that's not on, well then —— that's not on," so we are going to tackle it. and this other money, does it go by the wayside? i think we will get a good break the deal and i think actually it will bring forward some investment and help strengthen the economy, but this money will happen whatever, the nhs needs it. because oui’ whatever, the nhs needs it. because our taxes will go up to pay. do you know which ones yet? no, it is actually coming because the economy is growing strongly. theresa may has already said it will come from our taxes being the top. it all comes from taxpayer money, obviously, not government money or nhs money —— our taxes being put up. i think one of the things we will see today is because unemployment is growing strongly —— employment is growing strongly, unemployed at a record low, one of the lowest figures in my

lifetime. that economy over the last few years, which is in some tough and difficult decisions, but it is all paying off now and there is more money coming we are able to spend on the public's priorities like the nhs. matt hancock, just seeing the mental health budget have seen their budgets fall in real terms over the cost of this parliament it is worth about £600 million. let's talk to labourmp about £600 million. let's talk to labour mp annaliese dodds at westminster, the labour shadow treasury minister. also — lord lamont — former minister under margaret thatcher and john major's chancellor of the exchequer; rachel meredith in cardiff — who's had to wait six weeks for her universal credit payment and wants the scheme to be paused; maike currie — an investment director who'd like the budget to tackle the cost of childcare; mike travis is in liverpool — a frontline nhs children's nurse who wants austerity to be ended in the nhs and social care sector; annie o'neill, a community public health nurse who says school nurses have been cut

by 25% in the last few years; mark morrell — a pothole campaigner who thinks the government needs to spend far more money on saving the road network. welcome, all of you. rachel. iwill start with you. you had a full—time job and you had to give it up in order to care for your disabled son, then you had to wait six weeks for your first universal credit payment. tell our audience what that was like. to be perfectly honest, it was horrendous, not knowing where the next money is coming from. i have worked since i was 16, i have always worked, and it wasn't a choice i made lately, having to give up work, it was a case that i had to to look after my son. in that six weeks, i had to visit a food bank to get gas and electric, to feed my children and electric, to feed my children and put gas in the meter, and put electric on. that was one of the most embarrassing moments of my life, i have never had to do that. to be honest, i never want to do it again. the only question i would pity

people, what happens if you have no money for six weeks? how would you survive? it has been a struggle. we have had to borrow money off my pa rents, have had to borrow money off my parents, they are both pensioners and they can't afford it. to try to look after me, because i am caring for my disabled son. the chancellor hinted on tv yesterday there might be more money for universal credit from next year to alleviate some of the suffering. that's obviously not going to help you. it is about the role and millions of other families, but is that something? at the moment it's not going to help me. at the moment i'm still struggling. i've got £60 this week to put on and feed my children and make sure, and that is coming from carer's elements. carers errant 62 to 50 a week for doing a full—timejob. carers errant 62 to 50 a week for doing a full—time job. my mother was a carer of the whole of her life —— carers earn £62.50. next year will

be all well and good but what about the millions of people suffering at the millions of people suffering at the moment because of universal credit? let me bring in annaliese dodds from the labour party. your party have said you would scrap universal credit. what would you replace it with? we think there is a big problem with the system of universal credit... what would you replace it with? we would replace it with a different system that doesn't for example require people to have to wait for so long, and all that can happen before that six weeks is people can get a loan, and that is pushing huge numbers of people into debt now. we are also seeing over a million children in poverty because of these changes to social security, and another million will be pushed into poverty unless the government changes course. we say we need a different approach, one which actually gives people enough money to live on so they are not being pushed into debt, and something that actually supports people in work as well, because we are now in a very different situation in the uk to before. it used to be that for most people if they managed to go into

work and they were supported into work, they would be lifted out of poverty. we have a very different situation now were two thirds of children in poverty are in working households. universal credit is not supporting those families so we need a different system. can you be clear with our audience that it labour when's the next general election you guarantee you will reverse all conservative cuts? well, we haven't said we would reverse every single different cut. that is because actually as well as the cuts that have occurred under this government there have been a lot of changes to there have been a lot of changes to the system of delivering everything from education, where we have seen lots of free schools setting up which have not necessarily been good value for money, through to the health service, where we have seen very destructive additional competition brought in, which again has sucked money out of the system. we think

there has to be a boost in funding ina there has to be a boost in funding in a variety of different areas, paid for by cancelling some of those tax cuts for the best of people and profitable corporations, but we also need to change the system delivering public services in a lot of areas. it is all very good seeing you will put in more funding but if you don't deal with the fundamental problems, that will not make sense in the long run. let's bring in former conservative chancellor norman lamont, not a spokesperson for the government. do you think the chancellor will loosen the purse strings? i think he will, but one can'tjust say the purse strings? i think he will, but one can't just say this the purse strings? i think he will, but one can'tjust say this is a free for all from now on the government can spend it likes, the government can spend it likes, the government still has to make extremely hurtful assertions and the deficit is down, we have to carry on eliminating the deficit and being able to repay the debt that we

accumulated after the financial crisis in 2008. i know it's irritating for people to hear this but you cannot wash away what happened in the past. —— careful assertions. the dead is still at around a0 billion, the last figures that i looked up. the conservatives have added £700 billion to the national debt. you shocked by that? that is precisely the reason you give in, the deficit has come down slowly, i think the government... it's ok then? the government rightly opted for reducing the deficit gradually so as not to put the economy into a recession, so as to keep employment going. we have after all got record employment, these are the best employment figures for a0 yea rs, the best employment figures for a0 years , we the best employment figures for a0 years, we are now also moving into a situation where are the last five months earnings have been increasing faster than inflation. that is an

indication that we are moving into a different situation. anneliese, after the last labour government, the country's overdraft, the deficit if you like was around 160 billion, because of posterity is now around a0 billion, do you welcome the fact the deficit has been cut to that level? of course it's necessary to get the deficit under control but when labour left off as the economy was growing, we are now in a situation were overall economic indicators are quite worrying. obviously i support the fight have higher levels of climate bill of course one in nine of those jobs is insecure which is different to previously but look at the long—running issues for the economy, you see we are heading in the wrong direction, business investment in the uk is going down, productivity is not at the rate of our competitors and we need to sort out those problems, otherwise we won't have the growing economic pie to generate tax in the first place.

that's for this government a thing has been complacent, we have a panic approach from hammond, he's using some of the space is given because of some better than expected statistics around lower government spending but he's not eating with fundamental problems and he's not reversing the tax cuts for the very best of people and profitable corporations. annie o'neill, as a community public health nurse, let's bring you in. how do you react to the fact that some of the 20 announced is going to the nhs, 2 billion each year will go to paper dedicated mental health nurses or units in schools up and down the country and in an any departments up and down the country?” country and in an any departments up and down the country? i welcome the investment in mental health because it's a huge problem and it's a massive crisis in our schools. i think the most frustrating thing is the introduction of these new mental health practitioners in schools, we already have highly skilled and highly strained school nurses who

work actually within school communities and the government green paper which brought in the transformation is welcome but it just feels like we are reinventing the wheel the whole time. we already have highly trained specialist practitioners in schools that are already working with children to support their emotional needs. and itjust feels like support their emotional needs. and it just feels like we are just reinventing the wheel of all time, i understand about the deficit but we need to have a focus, really, on shifting the emphasis from treating disease to actually putting the money for its needed into early intervention young people. we already have a highly skilled workforce and a school nurses, i think we just feel like we've been ignored and our skills and expertise hasjust been ignored and our skills and expertise has just been completely overrun ignored and our skills and expertise hasjust been completely overrun by these new mental health practitioners which, they are only

going to have a years training and school nurses, we have for years, we are qualified nurses. we work really ha rd are qualified nurses. we work really hard andl are qualified nurses. we work really hard and i think there is a mismatch in terms of what the government decided is needed to what schools and young people are saying they want. mike travis, let me bring you m, want. mike travis, let me bring you in, nhs children stress, what's your view on the money towards mental health units, nurses in schools and a&e departments? the devil is in the detail, isn't it, we can't get away from the fact that currently we are a0,000 nurses short in the nhs and health care is a contact sport, you need staff in order to deliver services. i would have been more interested in hancock plan to recruit more nurses and for health ca re recruit more nurses and for health care professionals. but it's not just in the nhs because this issue goes across the whole of health care. we have problems within the

private sector, the provision of beds for a range of different conditions. then we have an exit and brexit is just sucking the workforce out of the workplace, all our european colleagues are simply going home. the big thing for me is that if you are going to have these services, you plant them, you must plan how you are going to staff them and delivered them and then that won't happen unless you have social services properly funded. in liverpool, half of the budget has been cut over the last eight years. how we can continue to deliver quality local authority services to pf°p up quality local authority services to prop up a working collaboration with the nhs is becoming more and more of a problem. mike querrey, investment director, what would you let to see the chancellor focus on? the chancellor and his emphasis has disproportionately affected women, i wa nt disproportionately affected women, i want to see more work being done around childcare, british parents

face some of the highest childcare costs the world, women struggle to get back into the workforce, they face the gender pay gap, and over the long term, results are what we call the gender pension gap. the government has offered a number of hours of free childcare, nurseries say it subsidised childcare, they already offer that. it's not enough, given the costs parents face and add to that the cost of elderly care. the childcare challenge, the challenge of dementia, alzheimer's, and it still women who take the break from their career to care either for the family or sick or elderly relatives, they go and work part—time, if all added the net of auto enrolment which has been introduced by the government to get more people into workplace pensions and all of this has a knock—on impact on productivity, getting women into the workforce, on our financial wellness over the long—term. financial wellness over the long-term. ok. lord lamont, what did

you make of the chancellor saying if there is a no—deal brexit then effectively he has two rip up this budget and start again with a new one? i think it's obviously true if there is a no dealfrom brexit he will have to consider the situation as it is but i was rather sort of surprised he put it away he did because he was rather implying this loosening of public expenditure will not happen if there is no deal. i would have thought, actually, if there was no deed, and a lot of uncertainty you would see a more relaxed budget rather than a tighter budget, it seemed to me it real to say and i'd be quite interested to see how it goes down the back dentures and the conservative party generally. i thought he was running a bit ofa generally. i thought he was running a bit of a risk and opening up an argument with his own backbenchers. he's had plenty of those, hasn't he? there is some talk that some conservative mps might vote against this budget if they feel theresa may, he heeded by philip hammond is

pushing through a soft brexit, what do you think about? first of all not going to be voting on the budget in the next few weeks, this is the autumn statement. there will be more announcements obviously in march, april. what you are describing is a choice that will arise, i don't think you will find anything like that happening now. why? i don't think anyone is thinking like that as far as think anyone is thinking like that as farasi think anyone is thinking like that as far as i know. ok. and the louis dodds, what do you make of the fact that there is no—deal brexit the chancellor would have destroyed ain? chancellor would have destroyed again? i think we are in a concerning situation. we have policy of government being driven by quite a small number of conservative backbenchers and they seem to be happy to talk up the prospect of no deal, the brexit secretary is talking about a no—deal brexit, and yet to find any businesses who say

there are opportunities from a no—deal brexit, they think it would create chaos and disruption to supply chains etc, it's worrying that the terms is now thinking he has got to somehow make all of this plant is contingent on us not having that kind of chaotic situation. instead, we should have the government for this country acting in the national interest and which says we will achieve a deep and a sensible one that will put jobs and the economy first and we are not there at the moment. mark, thank you for being patient, you are a pothole campaigner, there is a queue hundred million quid going towards potholes we are told, are you delighted? repairing potholes is a waste of money, the underlying problem is there is a massive tens of billions of backlog of road maintenance, to put it into perspective £420 million has been mooted, it's likely to be

an average of £800,000 a year to each council. using kent as an example it has a backlog of over £630 million. i couldn't quite here that, mark, because of the line, but you are saying it's absolutely not enough money so what should he do?” mean, just throwing money at things, it needs a proper long—term plan, there is a transport select committee inquiry which is being held. the nonsense is we see all pothole repairs held. the nonsense is we see all pothole re pairs on held. the nonsense is we see all pothole repairs on the roads but nationally there isn't even a training course qualification, root and branch approach to reforming and proper funding but not just and branch approach to reforming and proper funding but notjust giving it to councils to waste because we see a lot of waste in councils as well. we definitely heard that, thank you for adjusting your microphone. thank you to annaleese who has to leave us, the labours

shadow treasury minister. lord lamont, when you heard the prime minister announced in her conference speech that posterity was over, did you think it was a bit of a con trick? i was slightly puzzled and away, on another occasion the prime minister said she did not like the word posterity, she preferred it is a living within your means and i am quite sure the prime minister understands we have to live within our means. i'm not sure whether declaring an end to a sturdy was declaring an end to a sturdy was declaring an end to a sturdy was declaring an end to the use of the word austerity or a real change. i think we are in a situation where expenditure can increase but one still has to be responsible. we know a certain amount of what the chancellor will say but one of the things that has not referred to is the chancellor has had a bit of a so—called windfall, i hate using that word because tax revenues have come in some 13 billion or so higher

than expected. it is thought the borrowing might be as low as 25 billion this year, which was much better than forecast just a few months ago. but will help him with his obligation that he was given by the prime minister to spend the money and the health service. i mean, i still think he has a tremendously difficult jobs mean, i still think he has a tremendously difficultjobs have assigned people with all the problems we have heard about, not putting up taxes because when people say an end to austerity, if you are going to have an end to it brought about by increases in taxes that just means austerity for individuals in their own private finances. and we are expecting taxes to go up to pay for extra money for the nhs and also still £12 billion of upper cuts to come before the end of the next one. it may not happen. why? i think you will possibly hear those cuts will not take place. i don't know, i'm just guessing. and spending per

person on things like police, schools, is set to fall over the next five years. doesn't feel to you like posterity is over?” next five years. doesn't feel to you like posterity is over? i think he is one of the most powerless post—war chancellors and i think that's what is needed, but will be before we see the end to austerity and the massive challenges we face. anni, doesn't feel to you like austerity is over? no, i'm afraid it doesn't. what needs to happen is there needs to be a complete shift because with every successive government that consent everybody just completely changes the rhetoric around early intervention. we need to think about actually changing the narrative so we to think about actually changing the narrative so we are to think about actually changing the narrative so we are not talking about piling money into the nhs to make sure that primary care and front line services have got enough money to cope with the people that

arrive at a&e, young people arrive at a&e will sell palm. we need to think about getting the money in at the position it can really make a difference in terms of integration. scotland have just invested 250 more at school nurses to be trained and go into schools. we just need people to think about it in a different way, we need to turn it on its head and think about, currently only two and think about, currently only two and a half percent of the total nhs budget is actually spent on public health. sorry to interrupt, rachel, i want to ask, doesn't feel to you like posterity is over? not really. in my situation at the moment it's very difficult. i am a full—time carer, i live on £60 a week. would somebody please tell me how you can do that with two children? it's impossible. mike, ford about you,

doesn't it feel like austerity is over to you? no, i think we are getting money thrown at robin eames and politicians don't seem to realise it's not going to be a surgeon or a nurse or a care home that will solve these problems, its politicians being dedicated to providing proper services and not just flattering over with promises of money especially when we face brexit and a very uncertain future. 0k, thank you all bury much and thank you for your time. in her audi with her newborn baby still inside says she'll never get over the ordeal. clare o'neill had parked the car — with four—week—old eliza inside — outside her home in birmingham when she was attacked. she battled to stop the man but failed, and was run over as he drove away. she's been telling the bbc‘s inside out team about her story. that day has changed

my life for ever. and you can see clare's story in full on bbc inside out west midlands today at 7.30 on bbc one, or on iplayer for the next 30 days. coming up... too old for ivf... women as young as 34 are being refused the fertility treatment in some parts of the uk —— that's despite the fact that nhs guidelines say it should be offered up to the age of 42. has that happened to you? let us now your own experience. stop 9:50am, just a your own experience. stop 9:50am, justa mind your own experience. stop 9:50am, just a mind you we are waiting on a news co nfe re nce just a mind you we are waiting on a news conference from air accident investigators at leicester city stadium after the helicopter crash that killed five people after the game on saturday. thousands of football shirts, scarves and flowers have been laid outside leicester city's ground — the king power stadium —

after the club confirmed that its owner vichai srivaddhanaprabha was among those killed in that helicopter crash on saturday. two members of his staff and the pilot eric swaffer and mr swaffer‘s partner izabella roza lechowicz also died. the helicopter came down in a car park next to the king power stadium shortly after take—off following leicester's match on saturday evening. it exploded into a ball of flames. leicester city's players have been paying their tributes to the club's owner on social media: goalkeeper kasper schmeichel, who was seen running towards the crash to try to help the victims, said: "i cannot believe this is happening. i am so totally devastated and heartbroken". and added: "it is so difficult to put into words how much you have meant to this football club and to the city of leicester... you cared so deeply for notjust the club but for the entire community. never have i ever come across a man like you. so hard—working, so dedicated, so passionate, so kind and so generous in the extreme." club captain wes morgan said he was "absolutely heartbroken

and devastated regarding the news of our chairman. a man who was loved and adored by everyone here and someone who i personally had the utmost respect for." and strikerjamie vardy said: "struggling to find the right words, but to me you are legend, an incredible man who had the biggest heart, the soul of leicester city football club. thank you for everything you did for me, my family and our club. i will truly miss you. may you rest in peace" in the past few minutes, the duke of cambridge has paid tribute to leicester city owner vichai srivaddhanaprabha, saying in a statement: i was lucky to have known vichai for several years. he was a businessman of strong values who was dedicated to his family and who supported a number of important charitable causes. that just released in

thatjust released in the last few minutes from the duke of cambridge. joining me now is rob tanner, leicester city editor for the leicester mercury newspaper and in melbourne is lucie morris—marr, journalist and friend of the heicopter pilot eric swaffer. thank you both very much for talking to us. robert, first of all, some of those rebukes from players and some of the tributes outside the ground, you don't hear that sort of affection and love for the owners of football clu bs. affection and love for the owners of football clubs. —— some of those tributes. that's right, normally owners seem tributes. that's right, normally owners seem to be vilified but the way vichai srivaddhanaprabha conducted himself, investing in the club, what it achieved on the pitch

but what he did in the community, the millions he gave to local charities, the little touches he gave to the supporters as well, on his birthday he gave them beers and cake, made sure they had breakfast on away games, meant so much cake, made sure they had breakfast on away games, meant so much to the clu b on away games, meant so much to the club and its followers. the outpouring is so remarkable. lucy, tell us about your friend eric who was the pilot of the helicopter. it's interesting and lovely to hear the tributes about the chairman because the eckelberry strongly about what eric was like which made me think they were no doubt friends. eric made friends for ever he went, i am one of many around the world, he was hugely funny, great sense of humour, fashion at about flying and always about safety. loss of sound i'm sure she did everyone —— everything he could to save everyone on that plane and absolutely he was

going to do everything he could to prevent a tragedy in the final seconds even though he was losing his own life and that will be his legacy forever, for sure. there are reports from eyewitnesses on the ground that suggest it appeared as though somehow eric, as the pilot, was trying to get the helicopter away from potentially people leaving the ground, for tv crews were packing up, more infrastructure of the club, to move it into an empty car park. absolutely, that those not surprise me at all. he was highly skilled, he had been a pilot for 20 years, private jets, commercial planes, he always said timmy helicopters were his first love, he knew everything about them, drove all the different types, instructed others on safety. i was a passenger once many years ago when he was struck think a student, a man who owned his own twin—engine helicopters similar to the one he crashed, what to do if there was an

engine failure, we turned off the engines and clyde to the ground vertically safely with the rotor going. he knew exactly what to do in any situation which makes me inglot unfolded on saturday night was totally catastrophic but in those final moments he managed to do his best to avert further tragedy which is an equivocal testament to his skill. we will potentially find out more information when the news conference from air accident investigators begins. rob, why did vichai srivaddhanaprabha want to buy leicester city? good question, at the time leicester city had recovered coming out of administration in 2002, they dropped down to the third tier of english and they just returned down to the third tier of english and theyjust returned to the championship when the club was put up championship when the club was put upfor championship when the club was put up for sale. i think it was the prestige of the club. the reports he was encouraged to do so by prince wiliam cos he suggested he wanted to get involved in english with ball

and leicester city were ripe for a ta keover and leicester city were ripe for a takeover at the time and i think it's there to signal once you much about when he became chairman, a lot of people are scrambling to find out about him and his business and there was a lot of mistrust about foreign ownership, we have seen in the midlands a lot of clubs, it hadn't gone well for but straightaway, his actions spoke louder than any words he could have said, he wrote of the debt, brought the stadium, convertible hundred and £3 million of the debt into equity himself, put the club on an even keel and it was onwards and upwards straightaway. the club on an even keel and it was onwards and upwards straightawaym was because of ten leicester got claudio bravo neary, jamie adi and won the premiership. yes, he held a press co nfe re nce won the premiership. yes, he held a press conference in bangkok after promotion and people were sceptical when he said his plan was to have leicester city challenging the top five in the premier league within three years and he was willing to

spend £180 million to see that happen, a couple of years later they became champions for the first time, whatever he said he was going to do, people believed in, he pulled off a miracle. lucy, we know eric's co—pilot and partner in life was tragically killed, what can you tell us about her? they were absolute soulmates, they travelled the world together, since meeting eric about ten years ago she learned to be a pilot and as a result they were living and aviation love story. it was like something out of the movie and as we watched it on fourth, the friends on facebook could hardly believe the lifestyle of 11. he must have been one of the happiest men in england, with his soulmate flying private jets and helicopters to exotic islands to royal ascot, it's another layer of this general tragedy, there are love story has come to an end but at the same time

they lived life completely to the full and they experienced a relationship and a working relationship and a working relationship many can only dream of. it's terribly, terribly suffer everyone he knew then, that they we re everyone he knew then, that they were ta ken everyone he knew then, that they were taken at the peak of the career and this young age, when they were enjoying life to the full. thank you so enjoying life to the full. thank you so much for talking to us, lucy. talking to us about eric and isabella. and rob, thank you for your time as well. telling us about vichai srivaddhanaprabha and what a difference he made to leicester city football clu b difference he made to leicester city football club and as soon as the news co nfe re nce football club and as soon as the news conference in air accident investigators begins we will bring it to you. news and sport on the way. for that, the weather, it to you. news and sport on the way. forthat, the weather, simon, it's freezing. absolutely, cold start to the day, call absolutely, cold start to the day, ca ll start absolutely, cold start to the day, call start to the wii, sunshine across many areas, that was the

scene across many areas, that was the scene in march one thing, temperatures as low as minus six degrees in northern ireland. minus four degrees in the midlands. an indication of how cold it was this morning. not being funny for all of us, some showers moving across the east, you can see that photo, some shower clouds across the north sea, drifting inland. this mass of high—level cloud moving into northern ireland. some rain underneath the cloud, perhaps going to miss the rest of northern ireland, some spots of rain moving in. showers across the east into this afternoon, wintry over the higher ground of the grampians, for most, dry and sunny, the temperatures getting up to between seven temperatures getting up to between seven and 10 degrees. this evening and tonight, we continue with shower clouds in across eastern areas, perhaps more persistent rain spreading to the south—east later. the further west you are, you can see we have blue dominant again,

another cold night with frost, in the east, some yellow, walk cloud their with showers and rain moving m, their with showers and rain moving in, temperatures staying above freezing across the east. between 5-6d. freezing across the east. between 5—6d. quite a wet day on tuesday, across east anglia, the south—east, on the coast, some uncertainty as to how far west that will come, some showers and cloud in central and eastern areas, some sunshine after a call eastern areas, some sunshine after a ca ll start eastern areas, some sunshine after a call start in the west, maximum temperatures getting up to 8—11d. the rain across the east linked in with the area of low pressure moving towards scandinavia. this week weather front moving into the west, on wednesday, some cloudy skies, outbreaks of rain, showers moving across scotland, northern ireland, western areas of england and wales. the further east you are, dry and bright, compared to tuesday, temperatures for many others, coming up temperatures for many others, coming up by temperatures for many others, coming up by if you degrees by wednesday,

9-13d. up by if you degrees by wednesday, 9—13d. coming less cold as we go into thursday and friday. still some dry weather around on thursday. by friday, turning wet and quite windy, keeping a close eye, still some uncertainty but the forecast for the end of the week that we will let you know. goodbye. hello, it's monday, it's 10 o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire. this programme has learned 12 areas of england have banned ivf for women over the age of 34. despite government guidelines saying it should be offered to women aged up to 42. it's bad enough knowing, or kind of going through the process — you can't have a child, anyway. and then to be told that you're too old, i guess. it was just horrible, it was just horrible. there shouldn't be a blanket ban. of course people need to be treated according to their individual circumstances, and these decisions are made independently of ministers, but the point of having the national guidelines is so that that's

the position people can expect right across the country. also today — a plane carrying 188 people has crashed into the sea, just after it took off from the indonesian capitaljakarta. translation: we have found a few ids, passports, driver's licenses, health insurance cards, as well as bank account books. we have deployed 150 search and rescue personnel, and another 150 from the military and police. so far no survivors have been found. we will bring you the latest. and it's budget day — the chancellor will set out his spending plans this afternoon. he's said he will ease austerity but how much will the purse strings be loosened ? we are still waiting for that news conference from leicester city's football ground, by air accident investigators who are going to give

us the latest on the helicopter crash at the weekend. you can see there, the hundreds of floral tributes, football shirts, football scarves , tributes, football shirts, football scarves, being laid just outside the ground by not only leicester city fa ns ground by not only leicester city fans but also football fans from other clubs, from other parts of the country. astonishing tributes. some absolutely... i mean, as we were saying just before ten o'clock it is rare you hear such affection for the owner, the chairman, the football club, but really, from the fans and players, united in devastation at the loss of their chairman. and united in their love and respect for his time as owner of leicester city. that conference from the air accident investigators we will bring to you as soon as it starts. here'sjoanna gosling with a summary of the rest of the day's news... maybe i should bring you the rest of

the news. a plane with 188 people on board has crashed into the sea off indonesia. the lion air boeing aircraft went down a few minutes after taking off from the capital jakarta for the regional city of pangkal pinang. a rescue operation has been launched and debris has been found at the scene. as you know, leicester city have confirmed that its owner was among five people who died when a helicopter crashed outside its stadium. vichai srivaddhanaprabha, two members of his staff, the pilot and a passenger were killed just minutes after it had taken off. a book of condolence will be opened at the king power stadium this morning. in the past hour, the president of the football association, prince william, has paid tribute to mr srivaddhanaprabha, calling him a "businessman of strong values who was dedicated to his family." the chancellor phillip hammond will deliver his last budget before brexit today. it's understood there'll be extra money for mental health services in england as part of a £20 billion boost for the nhs which was announced injune.

but the chancellor is under pressure to find extra funding for other public services after years of austerity. i think one of the things we'll see is that because the economy's growing strongly, unemployment at a record low — lower than at any point in my whole lifetime — one of the results of having that stewardship of the economy of the last few years, that has involved some tough and difficult decisions, that's all paying off now and there's more money coming that we are able to spend on the public's priorities like the nhs. women over 34 are being automatically refused ivf treatment on the nhs in 12 areas of england, this programme has found. ivf should be offered to women until age 42, guidelines say, but new figures show around 80% of areas are failing to do this. the department of health said "blanket restrictions" were "unacceptable". more on that story to come in the

next hour, including your own experiences of being denied ivf on the grounds of your age. angela merkel has reportedly told senior party officials that she's willing to give up her role as party leader, but wants to keep her role as german chancellor. mrs merkel was due to stand for re—election at the cdu's party conference in december. her decision comes after the party suffered heavy losses in regional elections that threatened the stability of the governing coalition. sara cox will be the new presenter of radio 2's drivetime show. the appointment comes after simon mayo, who had led the programme for eight years, announced he was leaving just a few months after he began co—presenting withjo whiley. sara cox says she was "beyond chuffed" at the news. the duke and duchess of sussex have met volunteers at a new zealand cafe that helps to highlight mental health issues. they then met school children who were waiting outside. one little boy, joe, seemingly shy at his royal encounter, very shy, was given a hug from his teacher as he met

meghan and was tickled by harry as the prince tried to cheer him up. earlier, the duchess of sussex also praised the achievements of new zealand women, who were the first in the world to get the right to vote. in looking forward to this very special occasion, i reflected on the importance of this achievement, but also the larger impact of what this symbolises. because, yes, women's suffrage is about feminism, but feminism is about fairness. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 10.30. thank you for your comments on ivf and whether you are being denied it or otherwise, in different parts of the country, which shouldn't be happening according to national guidelines. childless mum on twitter, "more needs to be done investigating fertility. by the time i found out i investigating fertility. by the time ifound out i couldn't investigating fertility. by the time i found out i couldn't have investigating fertility. by the time ifound out i couldn't have my investigating fertility. by the time i found out i couldn't have my own

children i was too old for ivf." another. "to say it shouldn't be available on the nhs would mean those without large funds to pay privately would be denied any chance of having children. is it fair that only the well—off can have ivf? my daughter is currently having ivf through the nhs on ten attempts and is now paying £10,000 for another chance. if there was no ivf on the nhs she would be paying around £40,000 which would be unaffordable." linda, an e—mail. "as the duchess of sussex has said, feminism is about fairness. how fair is it that successive governments have pushed, encouraged or bullied women to work full—time, but without both really recognising the difficulties of the biological clock, child rearing and working at the same thing? we know fertility

for women often reduces after 35 yea rs of for women often reduces after 35 years of age and not many years after it completely stops, as women's drive to get on the ambitious in their workplace... how can they do that without the backstop can they do that without the ba cksto p of can they do that without the backstop of ivf if necessary?" we will talk about this in the next half—hour. do get in touch with us throughout the morning — use the hashtag victoria live. if you're emailing and are happy for us to contact you — and maybe want to take part in the programme — please include your phone number in your message. if you text, you'll be charged at the standard network rate. let's get some sport now. holly is at the bbc sport centre. good morning. lewis hamilton insists he's not thinking about trying to match michael schumacher‘s record of seven formula 1 drivers‘ titles after claiming his fifth championship in mexico. he only needed to finish seventh to seal the deal — in the end he crossed the line in fourth, with his only title rival sebastian vettel in 2nd. max verstsappen of red bull winning that race — but all eyes were on hamilton as he achieved something only two men have done previously. okie, guys. it has been an incredible journey. another is more to come and more big challenges

ahead, we still have a title to win for the team so that is my sole focus right now. —— 0k, guys. heading to los angeles, hopefully we'll see my dogs tomorrow then back to the uk to see the team but i want to the uk to see the team but i want to thank everyone who has come out and supported me throughout the year, travelling around the world. it means the world to me. thanks so much to the team. i love that, thanking the dogs, then the team! the all—time record holder remains michael schumacher with a total of seven titles, followed by legendary argentinian racing driverjuan manuel fangio, who hamilton now shares the position with. meanwhile, another win for manchester united the premier league yesterday — with some very special guests of honour among the spectators at old trafford. take a look. these are the wild boars — the young thai football team that were trapped inside an underground cave for over two weeks earlier this year. the club invited them to the grounds after hearing about their horrific ordeal. they were given the full vip treatment — decked out in man united scarves — and received a standing ovation by supporters. and they saw united beat everton 2—1. i think we started well.

i think in the second half we played even better than we did in the first half. great control of the game, great possession, quality, creativity. solid in defence too. i think we were really good, and we didn't deserve this last 15 minutes, where it was not easy for us. the australian cricket team says sledging opponents won't get out of hand anymore. those in charge had allowed the team to get arrogant and develop a "win at all costs" mentality. that's according to a report into the culture of the team, commisioned after the scandal of players using sandpaper on the ball. we know now — we know what's right and we know what's wrong. we know what australian cricket expect of us, and we'll be holding each other accountable, so if it does happen or start to get out of control, it won'tjust be me — a number of guys know where we sit on that, how far we go

and where we don't go. and the boston red sox have won baseball's world series. take a look. these are the scenes of celebration in boston after the team took their fourth title in 15 years. they beat los angeles dodgers in la to take the series 4—1. that's all the sport for now. i'll have the latest at half past ten. see you then. cheers, holly, thank you. 13 minutes past ten. this programme's learned that women over the age of 34 are being automatically refused ivf treatment on the nhs in 12 areas of england — despite national guidelines stating ivf should be offered to women until they're 42. our reporterjean mackenzie has been to meet two women denied ivf in their 30s —

who say they lost out because of a ‘postcode lottery‘. here's her exclusive report. we felt a little bit cheated by the system, really. it seems like the postcode lottery for different people to have different treatment. just unfair how the cut—off is. 35. i'm not over the hill, i've just started. iam now 38, and my husband is 44 and we've been trying to conceive for six years. about a month ago we had our appointment for the fertility clinic in central southampton and that's when she sat us down and said, "has anyone spoken to you and have you found out any information?" we said, "no, that's like why we're here." and that's when she said,

"you're too old to have it, you're above 35, and in the southampton area they don't offer it to people over 35." and that was the first we heard of it. it's bad enough knowing, all going through the process. you can't have a child anyway and then to be told that you are too old, i guess, isjust horrible. it was just horrible. what does it mean to you to have children? so, it's... it's not like... i'm not one of these women that my life goal was to have a child and to get married and have a husband. so it only really became more apparent... i'm sorry. like, when you can't have it.

so when she said that... the possibility of not having them, it's not very good, basically. ijust guess i would have liked to have known when i was younger, maybe. we felt we were fairly young, but we knew that we wanted to have children at some point. when it wasn't happening, we were looking at, you know, what are the options for ivf? and, through the nhs, at the age of 34, that's when i was told that i was already too old. because it wasjust before my 35th birthday. i felt cheated. i felt really disappointed. i felt angry, initially. and i felt that it wasn't handled in the best possible way. it was also kind of matter—of—fact —

this is how it is, kind of get on with it. she is called bella. so we've had her since march and she's fairly anti—social most of the time. itjust feels really unfair that it is such a postcode lottery. come on, quick, that's it. cooking on gas. we've got two options, really. three. we've got don't have children, go into more debt, and we've got moving. moving house? moving house, yes. and is that what you're looking at, looking to move to a new postcode to open this up to you? yeah, basically, that's what we're looking into now. to see what areas do it and see what is going to work for both of us. it doesn't make sense that you would

stop something at a critical time when women need it. it's a difficult time, anyway. it's not easy to get pregnant, especially when you are a bit older. so how do you feel about this arbitrary 35 benchmark, as an age? it'sjust unfair. it's just unfair how the cut—off is. 35. because ijust don't feel... i'm not over the hill, i have just started. you feel a little bit lost, as well, because if that's a path that you're planning and then you think, well, that doesn't seem to be opening up or emerging, so that's really quite confusing in itself. there are all these thoughts going through my mind — well, what else, where else do

we spend our time and what else do we focus on? because having kids is the route that you think about, and you just believe that it is naturally going to happen at some point. will i ever accept that i don't have children, and it's something that we both really, really wanted ? probably, probably not fully accepting it. but i also know that it could weigh me down for a number of many more years to come, and that's something... that is not in my nature to do, so i really want to... you know, it's the "how do you turn that situation into making it work better for you?" and so what does the future look like now for you? i guess the thought of not having children is really sad. because... yeah, because it's something that my husband and i are ready for now. so it willjust be sad, it will be really sad if we can't do it.

that was jean mackenzie reporting. england's health secretary, matt hancock gave us his response to some women being denied treatment. on the grounds of age. decisions on the treatments that are made available to people should be made on their clinical need, and blanket bans off the nice guidelines that are different to those guidelines are not acceptable. there's a reason that we have guidelines in first place, and that's to provide the standard that the country should expect, and then doctors should make individual decisions with individual patients, according to their needs. so women after the age of 35 should not be denied ivf on the grounds of age? there shouldn't be a blanket ban. of course, people need to be treated according to their individual circumstances,

and these decisions are made independently of ministers, but the point of having the national guidelines is so that that is the position people can expect right across the country. let's talk now to sarah norcross — from the campaign group fertility fairness which has looked at the different rules on ivf treatment across the country. dr adam balen is a professor of reproductive medicine from the royal college of obstetricians and gynaecologists — he thinks that all women should be offered ivf up to the age of 42 — and dr andrew drakeley, clinical director of the hewitt fertility centre which is part of the liverpool women's nhs foundation trust — he says the nhs is not in a position woman. firstly, sarah norcross, what you

think about this, different areas doing their own thing? this is a pattern we are seeing again and again in this year we have decided to focus our report on this, the different access criteria these groups are using, particularly when they deviate from what nice has said in theirguideline. they deviate from what nice has said in their guideline. why are they allowed to deviate? these are all the recommendations from nice and they are not mandatory. what is really frustrating is that, you know, we have gone this to the government's attention for years now. we had a commitment from government to do something about this. they said they would look into developing, commissioning, guidance for the mission groups, because fertility treatment is a hugely important issue for people, but it is tiny amount of what these groups do, so emma puvrez source they can put towards looking into it, looking at their evidence, deciding the best pathway —— at their evidence, deciding the best pathway — — so at their evidence, deciding the best pathway —— so the amount of resources they can put towards

looking into it. the nhs was going to do that. they are on record in parliament, that they were undertaking to do that, and then publishing and disseminating that commissioning guidance so it is easier for the people on the ground trying to commission this work to do it, so it makes sensible and fair decisions in accordance with nice. doctor drakely, decisions in accordance with nice. doctor dra kely, what decisions in accordance with nice. doctor drakely, what you think of the fact that 12 areas of england are stopping offering ivf treatment to women after the age of 35?” are stopping offering ivf treatment to women after the age of 35? i am disappointed by that. maybe there area disappointed by that. maybe there are a couple of reasons they have chosen that age, none of which i agree with. the average age of women having ivf with us is 34, and at that age maybe opted 90% of her eggs have already been used up. there is no doubt if you undertake ivf in a youngerfemale population no doubt if you undertake ivf in a younger female population the success rates are better, so the cost effectiveness argument is there, but given most gbs me to ask a couple to try for a bit years

before —— gps needs to ask. that set the bar at 32 and a lot of couples have certainly not started thinking about fertility treatment anywhere near that age. do you agree with the guidelines that the ivf should be offered up to the age of 42?” guidelines that the ivf should be offered up to the age of 42? i do, actually. an interesting statistic i saw risley was a woman of 40—42 perhaps needs four cycles of ivf to have the same success rate as somebody are 35, so to flip it round —— i saw recently. older patient needs more treatment than the young patient. we don't see a drop—off in ivf success rate until 38—40, so certainly to cap it at 34 seems excessive to me. and what do you think, doctor balem? we have to agree infertility is a disease and it is common for women of that age

to attend theirgp it is common for women of that age to attend their gp after contraception. we know that ivf is cost—effective, and if we had a properly funded service in england and wales, just as they have managed to achieve in scotland, where everybody is entitled to the full three cycles irrespective of whether or not they already have children in their relationship. we know that it is cost—effective and it would probably only cost about 20 per head of the population to fund it properly, because ivf is not as not as expensive as people think, it is as expensive as people think, it is a real health need. infertility is caused by a real disease, and we should be offering equity around england and wales to ensure that everybody has a fair chance. how much does a cycle of ivf cost on the nhs? well, that is an interesting question. i am chairing the nhs england ivf pricing group and we see big variations around the country, and we are moving towards

encouraging and national tariff, so it should be the same all around the country. we know that ivf can be provided for in the region of £2500, £3000, per cycle, and it should be said that not everybody needs the full three cycle. many couples conceive after the first, particularly if they have the opportunity to have embryos frozen. so most won't require the full three cycles, and a properly funded ivf service is easily achievable, despite the economic climate we are in at the moment. i will bring in libya, one of our viewers, who got in touch with us today. she is from banbury in oxfordshire —— i am going to bring in olivia, one of our viewers. she has been told she is too old for ivf in her nhs trust area. hello, olivia. how are you?” am well, thank you. do you mind me asking how old you are? 37. what has

your trust said? we were not eligible for any ivf on the nhs and thenif eligible for any ivf on the nhs and then if we wanted to have any we would have to go private and it would have to go private and it would be £7,000 per cycle, so one month, £7,000, and they said that would only be about a 30% chance we would only be about a 30% chance we would conceive, having spent all of that money as well. the alternative they said, if we didn't want to do that, we could move to warwickshire where we are allowed one free cycle, but we don't want to move because we don't have to —— don't wa nt to because we don't have to —— don't want to have to move to be able to do that, and i think it is ridiculous. i think everybody should be allowed a fair chance of being able to have children. how do you respond to the fact that in oxfordshire for some reason 37 is too old, despite the national guidelines saying you should be offered it up until the age of 42?”

think it is really bad. i would be more than happy suddenly it changed and we were able to do it, i would do it in and we were able to do it, i would do itina and we were able to do it, i would do it in a heartbeat. i'm just very angry and frustrated with the dollar at the moment. what will you do, olivia? at the moment we're just waiting to see what will happen. we are still trying to conceive naturally, in the vain hope that that might happen, and just saving up, and if we can afford £7,000 for one cycle we will see how it goes, if that is what we have to do, because we don't want to move. i don't really want to pay the £7,000 but i feel backed into a corner, but at the same time i feel by spending the £7,000 it is like throwing money and then if it doesn't work. it is incredibly frustrating —— it would be like throwing money in the bin if it doesn't work. what with having children mean to you and your partner? amazing. we always wanted children. we have been together 17 yea rs, children. we have been together 17 yea rs , we children. we have been together 17 years, we met at university, always wa nted years, we met at university, always wanted to have children. we waited until we progressed our careers, had a house to live in, stability, and we we re a house to live in, stability, and we were in a position to be able to have children, and find it very

frustrating we can't now do that. cea ra, frustrating we can't now do that. ceara, what should olivia to?m frustrating we can't now do that. ceara, what should olivia to? it is heartbreaking. you have to weigh up the benefits and the cost —— sarah, what should olivia. moving house is not something that is cheap. it is stressful and it can take time and i'm afraid during that time the cc6 she's moving to a change policy. we have seen that happen in other areas of the country where people have moved to a more generous provider then all of a sudden there has been a change of policy. you know, then you have wasted that moving money that could have been put in your ivf pot. it is absolutely... that story just brings it home, as to how unfair it is. women are penalised over and over again. they are penalised for trying to pursue a career, they are paying into the system, then when they come to need the system for ivf, it is not there for them. do you think, doctor dre click, that the health secretary matt hancock should step in here?”

the health secretary matt hancock should step in here? i do. i agree with his statement that was played before an —— doctor drakely. i think a level playing field is what people need. it is wrong that within a certain catchment area you have different clinician groups having a different clinician groups having a different slant on opinion on what is funded and not funded. it makes it confusing for both the clinicians and patients. to have an equal amount of funding, whatever that is, decided, is really what we need to do. he was right to say that the nice guidance of three fully funded cycles nice guidance of three fully funded cycle s u p nice guidance of three fully funded cycles up to the age of 40 or 42 is what is required and i would like to put his money where his moses to try to enact that really make it achievable for doctors to treat patients. —— put his money where his mouth is. do you think it is a resource issue, doctor balem? the nhs getting an extra £20 billion by the end of parliament... obviously resources have to be used sensibly, but at the same time as i said

before it is not particularly expensive to have a fully funded ivf service, and we know it is cost—effective. in reality, ivf is a highly scrutinised area of the health sector. we are very highly regulated in the uk. we have to remember we are celebrating the 40th birthday of the first ivf baby who was born as a result of all the research that actually came out of the uk. we lead the world in research. and yet we are behind the rest of the world in our funding. research. and yet we are behind the rest of the world in ourfunding. in the uk about 2% of babies are born asa the uk about 2% of babies are born as a result of ivf. in scandinavia, for example, it is about 8%, so there is a real unmet need and if scotla nd there is a real unmet need and if scotland can do it in scandinavia and other european countries can do it, then there is absolutely no reason why we shouldn't be able to do it. it has been shown time and again that the economic advantage to

the country from children born as a result of ivf far outweighs the cost of the treatment in the first place. let me read these messages, there are an number of them. one viewer said, we've been dry for three yea rs, said, we've been dry for three years, i had cancer when i was 21, i had my sperm frozen. —— we've been trying. despite our young age, we we re trying. despite our young age, we were denied in cambridge. it's so unfair. this text correspondent says i was 41 when i had my son through ivf, i had miscarried previously with ivf twins at around the age of 36. i hadn't planned children until my 30s and i found out my fallopian tubes were blocked after an ectopic latency. carol said i was denied treatment and told at 36 by bromley nhsi treatment and told at 36 by bromley nhs i was too old. i'm now 51 and

remained childless, i know this will never happen for me. i was left devastated and got no further advice, help or counselling. this text says, i'm 41, told i don't qualify for ivf because my husband has two children from a previous marriage although i've never been pregnant. i'm devastated. there are quite a fume or along those lines, really upsetting and heartbreaking. on cue for those, i'll try and read them before we get to the end of the programme. thank you to all my guests. time for the latest news — here's joanna gosling. the bbc news headlines this morning: a plane with 189 people on board has crashed into the sea off indonesia. in the last few minutes, search and rescue teams have said there are likely to be no survivors. the lion air boeing aircraft went down a few minutes after taking off from the capital jakarta for the regional city of pangkal pinang. a rescue operation has been launched and debris has been found at the scene.

leicester city have confirmed that its owner was among five people who died when a helicopter crashed outside its stadium. vichai srivaddhanaprabha two members of his staff, the pilot and a passenger were killed just minutes after it had taken off. a book of condolence will be opened at the king power stadium this morning. the president of the football association, prince william, has paid tribute to mr vichai. calling him a ‘businessman of strong values who was dedicated to his family'. the chancellor phillip hammond will deliver his last budget before brexit today. it's understood there'll be extra money for mental health services in england as part of a £20 billion pound boost for the nhs which was announced injune. but the chancellor is under pressure to find extra funding for other public services after years of austerity. angela merkel has reportedly

told senior party officials that she's willing to give up her role as party leader, but wants to keep her role as german chancellor. mrs merkel was due to stand for re—election at the cdu's party conference in december. her decision comes after the party suffered heavy losses in regional elections that threatened the stability of the governing coalition. that's a summary of the latest bbc news. thank you for your messages on ivf, ellie says the process can take yea rs. we started ellie says the process can take years. we started trying to conceive when i was 31, it's taken six years to get to ivf with endless tests, surgery to get to ivf with endless tests, surgery and two miscarriages in that time. i'm now 36 and beginning ivf, i never said that to have children at this age but at such a long and uncertain process. we were never aware of the reduced age but we are lucky we live in an area that will treat me at 36. howard says the postcode lottery per age—related ivf is undoubtedly wrong but in the end it comes down to money not conspiracy. some nhs trusts have

enough money to allocate ivf are over 35s and some don't. garrett says my wife and i both 38 of the time were invited to the hospital, they explained in person they don't provide ivf beyond 35 even though the national guidelines to save 42. the hospital said they had no budget. in ascot. we had to go private and remortgage our house and spent five years trying, it was so unfair. thank you for those. more to come before 11am. holly is back with the sport. lewis hamilton insists he's not thinking about trying to match michael schumacher‘s record of seven formula 1 drivers‘ titles lewis hamilton insists he‘s not thinking about trying to match after claiming his fifth championship in mexico. he only needed to finish seventh to seal the deal — in the end he crossed the line in fourth, meanwhile, another win for manchester united the premier league yesterday — with some very special guests of honour among the spectators at old trafford. take a look.

these are the wild boars — the young thai football team that were trapped inside an underground cave for over two weeks earlier this year. the club invited them to the grounds after hearing about their horrific ordeal. the australian cricket team says sledging opponents won‘t get out of hand anymore. those in charge had allowed the team to get arrogant and develop a "win at all costs" mentality. that‘s according to a report into the culture of the team, commisioned after the scandal of players using sandpaper on the ball. and the boston red sox have won baseball‘s world series. these are the scenes of celebration in boston after the team took their fourth title in 15 years. they beat los angeles dodgers in la to take the series 4—1. that‘s all the sport for now. in the last few minutes, search and rescue teams in indonesia have said it‘s likely that all 189 people aboard a plane which crashed into the sea, shortly after taking off from the indonesian capital, jakarta, have died. the lion air boeing 737 was headed for pangkal pinang, in the bangka belitung islands, when contact with it was lost. here at this crisis centre that‘s been set up the loved

ones of the passengers on board that plane. here at this desk desk, family members coming up to ask information from lion air officials. they are being told to fill out a form. on that form the need to give their name and their relationship to who‘s on—board, and then there are being told to wait here, anxiously, for more news. up on the wall here is a list of passenger names. people are coming up to try and check and see if their family is on there, before coming up here and asking for more information. a short while ago lion air officials told people here that they didn‘t have any more news, and told them to just wait. at the port here injakarta search and rescue teams are bringing back the debris of the plane, and amongst that debris they have found bodies and are bringing them back in body bags.

ambulances are stationed over here to bring them and to tell the families who are related to them. andy moore is here with the latest. what do we know about what happened? the plane crashed 30 minutes after take—off, a new aircraft only delivered in august. the pilots had requested to turn back to the airport because of some problem, we don‘t know precisely what that is. looking at flybe raid at the pilots seem looking at flybe raid at the pilots seem to have encountered a problem within a few minutes after take—off, they lost height if you recovering but it never again tied in the way it should have done, it should have been progressing smoothly at the height something like 20,000 feet, flying about 6000 feet before it crashed. we know also from the chief executive of their was a problem with this particular aircraft the

actual plane on a previous flights to bally, it was led that by engineers on the ground in ballet, looked at again by engineers when it returned to jakarta at the chief executive said the repairs, whatever they were, were carried out according to the manufacturers processes and that was deemed fit to fly. —— bali. processes and that was deemed fit to fly. -- bali. what do we know about those on board ? fly. -- bali. what do we know about those on board? there were 189 people on board. i‘ve looked at the flight people on board. i‘ve looked at the flight manifest, the names have been released, it looks as if most if not all of the passengers on board were indonesian citizens. we know that there were about 2031 think civil serva nts there were about 2031 think civil servants from the finance minister aeon board. it was an early morning flight, aeon board. it was an early morning flight, lasting about an hour or so, a lot of passengers on board that flight a lot of passengers on board that flight probably were business travellers. thank you. a memorial service will be held in london tonight for the murdered saudi journalist

jamal khashoggi. it‘s been just under a month since he was killed inside the saudi embassy in istanbul, yet in the weeks that have passed there are still more questions than answers. let‘s talk to the bbc‘s chief international correspondent lyse doucet. good morning, just remind our viewers of the different versions that have come from the saudis about what happened to this journalist. the saudi public prosecutor is now in istanbul and will meet his turkish counterpart, it said he will the consulate but as you suggest in your questions, since october the 2nd when jamal khashoggi your questions, since october the 2nd whenjamal khashoggi went into the istanbul consulate of the kingdom of saudi arabia, october the 2nd and never came out, the saudi authorities have had many different explanations, quite the different explanations, quite the different explanations, first to was a period

of silence, they said nothing. then crown prince happened to be meeting with journalists at that time in riyadh and he said well, we heard that he left the consulate within minutes oran that he left the consulate within minutes or an hour. then they said it was a rogue operation. it was an accident, something went wrong, it wasn‘t part of us. then it was the saudi public prosecutor who disagreed and said no, it was premeditated murder and the saudi foreign minister also said it was a murder, that is where it stands at the moment, it was murder, something happened inside the consulate but the questions, the urgent questions and really important questions are where is the body? the turkish authorities have asked three times to inspect a well more we understand a deep wells which is on the grounds of the residents of the saudi consul general, that has been refused three times. even though the saudi public

prosecutor will visit the istanbul consulate we understand it was the really cleaned as well as the vehicles which were understood to have carried away reports suggest, what was the dismembered body of jamal khashoggi in the hours after he murdered inside the consulate. so, it has moved on but not moved on for enough. there is said to be a recording of jamal khashoggi‘s killing, is and if there is, will it be released? there is said to be an absolutely grisly recording, i won‘t see the details here on a morning show, such as this. when the turkish president made his first extensive public comments on it it was expected he may indicate that there isa expected he may indicate that there is a recurring. macro recording, he did not, but the head of the cia flew to istanbul, it is understood she has heard the recurring, there has been aged, drip of leaks from turkish sources, high—level turkish

sources, who said they heard the recording, they heard the screams, they heard the violence committed againstjamal they heard the violence committed against jamal khashoggi, they they heard the violence committed againstjamal khashoggi, they heard everything, voices, can identify the voices. 18 people have been arrested in saudi arabia, the saudi foreign minister at the weekend said they will be prosecuted in the kingdom but the turkish president says where is the body, the family is seen where is the body? and the turkish president says who ordered it? if it was premeditated as you say who ordered it and how far up the kingdom was the order go? thank you. let‘s talk to some of those who will speak at the memorial ofjamal khashoggi this evening. ajmal masroor is an imam who has been heavily critical of the saudi government, and wadah khanfar who was a close friend of mr khashoggi. thank you so much for talking to us. ajmal masroor, does it seem to you as though the crown prince of saudio,

mohammed bin salman is going to get away with this? it looks like he‘s trying and that‘s what they are doing, to create a cover—up, a miserable failure in their creation. i think he‘s involved directly and i say this because of my own personal experience, i used to be an imam at one of the saudi funded mosques in london, i was fired within the same week as the death of jamal khashoggi because i criticised the government. i wrote about it and i said where is the body, we should have a funeral for this man and they should admit what they have done. immediately i was fired. that‘s not evidence that the crown prince ordered the killing. previously i've had the same problem with the same mosque, they don‘t like free spirit, i have an agreement with them i can say what i want. previous crown princess and kings have tolerated mild criticism from outside but the fact this is an intolerant crown prince is indicative of the things he is

doing across the globe to saudi citizens. why didn‘t he kill you? i‘m not saudi, i suppose, citizens. why didn‘t he kill you? i‘m not saudi, isuppose, there citizens. why didn‘t he kill you? i‘m not saudi, i suppose, there is no interest in killing me, i‘m just a meagre imam in his mosque. what is most worrying for me is that they have a mosque here that they think they can pull their muscle and do what they like and that‘s not acceptable. a man has been murdered, we need the body, we need a funeral and we need the family to have dignity, they have not been given out. you saw jamal khashoggi you sanamal khashoggi some you saw jamal khashoggi some days before he was killed, what did you talk about? during the days we spent together, two days, he told me about his hope of establishing the democracy foundation in order to spread the news. he was very worried

about his country, worried about the future of it and he is complaining about the lack of freedom, he said they had never witnessed, they have been with the regime... we are told that a lot of the younger generation sees the opening up of saudi, being able to go to the cinema, driving etc, which is why they respect the new crown prince. the crown prince, to treat used to tell us this, there have been certain matters, allowing women to drive, and turned back three were supportive of this but at the same time, the radical shift and change was related to human rights. we have hundreds, thousands of people injail without a proper judicial system and most of these people are injail, some of them are friends of jamal khashoggi. people are injail, some of them are friends ofjamal khashoggi. i remembered he always used to write about a friend that was arrested and

not charged, we don't know why he was arrested. that was the major pain that he had when he was writing about saudi arabia. he loved his country and he was furtively regime but at the same time, he was a dignified journalist who was riding his opinion and trying to reform rather than destroy the system.” understand. what do you want to see happen, i‘ll ask both of you, briefly. justice should be done, first first, released the body, if we don‘t know the body, we will not far happened to him, let‘s give him an honourable funeral, that‘s what i long for. i would like to see justice done by finding out who made the order, who killed and five. and they should be prosecuted and you know what i would like to see? the total opening a saudi arabia, the royalfamily to total opening a saudi arabia, the royal family to go under democracy to ta ke royal family to go under democracy to take place, people have the choice to choose their own future. and you? choice to choose their own future. and you ? the choice to choose their own future. and you? the most important thing is

that the people who ordered the killing of jamal khashoggi that the people who ordered the killing ofjamal khashoggi should be exposed. now i see every four especially in the media, starting to see this kind of cover—up operation, trying to make the issue ofjamal khashoggi into a mystery was contradicting narratives and then the process, the prosecutor general meeting, all of this, we know. this is the most clear crime ever committed against a journalism, a journalist was killed inside the consulate by 15 people who flew with jets, belonging to a company belonging to the crown prince. they conducted this operation and they cleaned the place and then they insisted 11 days of denying it and then the process happened and then you speak about contradicting narratives. it is a very clear crime. the one who committed this crime. the one who committed this crime is not only the to spot those who have ordered and we know in a country like saudi arabia, impossible, such a crime or any

matter could be conducted without the green light or order and instruction from the top, you know, rule rs instruction from the top, you know, rulers and in this case it is the de fa cto rulers and in this case it is the de facto king. the crown prince. thank you both for coming on the programme. thank you. we‘ve been talking about the owner and chairman of leicester city football club this morning — who‘s been confirmed as one of those killed in a helicopter crash after saturday‘s game against west ham. vichai srivaddhanaprabha was one of five people who died. in a moment, we‘ll be speaking to two leicester city fans who made video diaries for this programme during that amazing season two years ago when the club shocked the footballing world by winning the premier league. first, let‘s take a look at what the thai billionaire had come to mean to some of those paying tribute to him outside the club‘s stadium: i brought down my champions scarf, because well, he made us

champions, so he is a champion. he was one of the crowd as far as we are concerned. he gives me a drink and we watched polo. it's just unbelievable. i don't what we are going to do. it is a big thing for leicester city, this. i mean, he was the best, best bloke that you could have. he never went by you without acknowledging you. it was ok, giving us bacon sandwiches, you know, your cup of tea for you, your breakfast. on his birthdays, he gave people beer. he paid for 60 people to renew their season tickets. he would rather stay in the shadows than be front and centre, but make no mistake, he brought the best years in this football club's history when they won the premier league, and champions league football. he is going to be really missed.

the fans took to him and warmed to him in a city that he would not necessarily have called home. but they made it home for him. i promise to do my best for our leicester. brought to the university the football cup. he was a very private man. he did not give many interviews. and he liked to run his business very much as a family affair, putting his children and his wife in very influential positions. so people in thailand don't know very much about him, about his opinions or his personality. speaks own language. we will still go on, carry on fighting, try to get to the top of the premier league

table just for him. i‘m joined now by sanjay menzies, a pilot who trained under eric swaffer and two leicester city fans who made video diaries for this programme during the club‘s league winning season. sandra fixter is the chair of the disabled supporters association and gary ljohnson has been a season ticket holder for 17 years... thank you for talking to us. sanjay, tell us about eric, the pilot. well, i got to know him in 2010. i‘m actually the chief pilot of a large pharmaceutical firm in actually the chief pilot of a large pharmaceuticalfirm in my own country in india, is the largest in the country. my boss decided to buy

a larger aircraft and he asked me to source one a larger aircraft and he asked me to source one of the best pilots who was trained on that aircraft and eric was the first name on the list as being an extremely professional, well experienced aviator and adult about 120 pilots i selected him to come and train me. iflew about 120 pilots i selected him to come and train me. i flew with about 120 pilots i selected him to come and train me. iflew with him for a couple of months exclusively. i learned everything about the aircraft from him, my wife and i got to know him very well. and isabel as well. that was eric's partner who also died. gary, how do you respond to what happened on saturday evening? it's come as a terrible shock, a terrible time for the foot ball shock, a terrible time for the football club. one of the darkest daysis football club. one of the darkest days is being spread around with the fans from our community and i agree totally we've had difficult times for king power and vichai

srivaddhanaprabha came along but nothing will top the terrible time with hard and i can only say thank you on behalf of the big all communities and clubs, we heard from the duke of cambridge earlier and his words earlier, it means so much to the football club. sandra, ford about you ? to the football club. sandra, ford about you? i can only reiterate what gary has said. it'sjust tragic, we are all numb, we are a big football family and vichai srivaddhanaprabha was one of us. we've had a lot of condolences, through from other clubs in the premier league and we just are absolutely numb and got at. he is one of us. and you met him, i understand, he was a quiet man, never did press conferences but you met him. what was he like? the same as you see, he was very quiet,

unassuming, i shook his hand, told him we still believed when we were going through a bit of a dodgy patch and he just smiled and said thank you, that's what he did, he was there. we met him in madrid when he came through to talk to the fans in the crowd when we born —— we were on the crowd when we born —— we were on the champions league wrote. yes, words are not enough, he was a chair man to be absolutely proud of. gary, very few football supporters talk about their chairman, owners in the way you talk about vichai srivaddhanaprabha. why, why is he different? he is much more to everyone at leicester city, although we keep saying we are a football family, he was at the top of that family. he supported our city, as a club, asa family. he supported our city, as a club, as a place, community, he put loads and loads of money into the

children's to these locally, we heard about the gifts that he gave us as the fans, before we went on long journeys, breakfast, scarves, little things like that, now we are talking about the man, that will no longer be with us. hopefully we can continue as a football club to push forward with the vision that he had. reading on the programme notes at the start of the year, he did a little bit of an interview and he said that we just wanted to be a big happy family, the fans were part of that family. that's how it felt, we feel like we have lost a true family member. thank you all for talking to us. gary, sandra and sanjay. sanjay knew the pilot, eric. we appreciate your time. and thank you for your m essa g es your time. and thank you for your messages about ivf, this correspondent says i was 35 when referred for ibf, that was the cut—off age in our area, it had to work the first time, the pressure

was on, i got pregnant but miscarried at nine weeks gestation. we were so close. at 3061 was too old to get my second attempt on the nhs, we saved seven and half thousand pounds, ie successfully had a little boy privately. the cut—off age of 35 in the nhs is ridiculous, most people don‘t even start trying until they are in their 30s these days. and he says as hard as it is for those trying, the nhs have budgets and must always make saving lives a priority. this viewer says i watched my son go through stage three cancer, he fought back and survived, we were amazed at his lust for life. he was told at the time to freeze his sperm, when needed, he would be able to have three rounds of ibf, at less than 30, he has now been told he can have no treatment. thanks so much for getting in touch.

back tomorrow. good morning. it may have been a cold and frosty start of the day for many but they are crisp and sunny start for most, this is the scene at the moment in northamptonshire. lots of blue skies al for many parts of the uk. cloud moving its way into northern ireland, some spots of rain in the north—west, shower clouds moving into the east, that could produce the odd shower here and there, potentially someone to be showers over higher ground of eastern scotland. most, dry and sunny, pretty chilly, maximum temperature getting between 7—10d. the night with the easterly wind, feeding in showers across eastern areas, the clouds thickening as we go to the early hours of tomorrow, rain moving into the south—east. from the temperatures map, yellow in

the east, blue in the west, indicating a frost in the west to start off tuesday. quite a bid of cloud around on tuesday, the best of the brightness in the west, further south and east stain cloudy with rain. goodbye. you are watching bbc newsroom live — it‘s 11.00am and these are the main stories this morning: tributes continue to pour in for the owner of leicester city, who died when his helicopter crashed outside the stadium. the chancellor prepares to present his budget — he‘s expected to put forward plans to deliver on the prime minister promise of an end to austerity.

iat i at westminster, where everyone is wondering how much cash philip hammond has to splash, and who is going to benefit. hammond has to splash, and who is going to benefit. a passenger plane with 189 people on board has crashed into the sea off the coast of the indonesian island of java. the far—right candidate, jair bolsonaro, wins brazil‘s presidential election, taking 55% of the votes.