million minimum and they didn't put in jeopardy million minimum and they didn't put injeopardy was in million minimum and they didn't put in jeopardy was in the coffin. it was quite ha rd—hitting in jeopardy was in the coffin. it was quite hard—hitting stuff like putting aside what she said, do you think misogyny is a crime that she is saying if she is saying they aren't real crimes? i think that is the difficulty in what she is saying because whether you think that you should report it to the police is one thing. there are a lot of things that are technically classed as crimes that most wouldn't call the police about. but this debate, i i think it was an mp who raise this, is really interesting because there are a lot of incidents where women in my experience whether it is with wolf whistling or having some caught them andl wolf whistling or having some caught them and i have had it when i have been running have someone yelling at me, stuff that may, i would never think of reporting that to the police. but i would suggest that it probably is a crime or it is... most

people think that is wrong. probably is a crime or it is... most people think that is wrongm probably is a crime or it is... most people think that is wrong. it is a question of definition and interpretation. the home office want to consult on this. the scottish government already have. they've looked at it. the lord recommended misogyny should be a hate crime. other scottish kirk —— now the scottish government are going to put that into law. -- to say here looking at a recent article called miss injury. a hate crimes against men as well. let's turn to the times because it is the same story on the front of the times. what is interesting and i thought i caught this is about administration time and resources, i'm not saying that misogyny is an issue, this is what she says, "but recording it is a crime". you think sometimes that it is also going to the administrative

process of recording it, do they have the time and resources to generate a crime number? some please forces are encouraged not to report not crimes. if a war he knocks over your bike or scooter, do you dial 101 on that? i think it is interesting because nottinghamshire police have already been recording male methot —— recorded misogyny as a hate crime. and when you look at these kinds of issues would you put these kinds of issues would you put the time in to investigate them, what disturbing them, having the data is quite important i think. we will stay with the times. you both like the story, the new? neighbour of tax racks propose this for between corbyn and mcdonald. of tax racks propose this for between corbyn and mcdonaldm course we would like a put up story. the budget going down. usually the

budgets bounce back onto the chancel are more than 2a hours. this one pounced onto labour because a —— along came philip hammond on monday saying he was going to cut tax for higher earners. 40% tax was going to raise the 50,000 a year. he'd expect labour to say "that is terrible, you're giving 1.7 of way to rich people". but mcdonald said "relax, he did a mandelson". which is shot labour ranks and is a bit of a dodge 4p pm cues which allowed theresa may to go quickly. —— prime minister questions. a man who could be the prime minister going where passive. we love this cycle. between number ten and number 11 even though it does a shadow ten and 11. it since both out in the times splashed. does a shadow ten and 11. it since

both out in the times splashedlj think both out in the times splashed.” think it's interesting as well because you have people who might be seen as centrists or moderate or whatever the term now is within the labour party coming out against john mcdonald. you have even some of the shadow front bench who i don't think quite knew what. .. shadow front bench who i don't think quite knew what... those people were angry because it was mcdonald who would have slaughtered and did regular criticised for how he was doing middle—of—the—road policies. this is interesting because mcdonald seems to have realised the limits of communism. you can't just seems to have realised the limits of communism. you can'tjust do it on the left with traditional labour voters. just like a player —— just like tony blair and mandelson did. you need a wide body people that you need to become head of government.

-- 4096 need to become head of government. -- 40% of need to become head of government. —— 40% of people. need to become head of government. -- 4096 of people. interesting story on the telegraph. i think we all thought that this is a great way of looking at this. we have not seen this discussed before. it is often older mothers that are discussed when it comes to children and illnesses. now this is a report saying babies of men over 45 arbor creek discovered a host of problems. this is interesting. i think this is the first kind of major study into this issue. -- men over45 the first kind of major study into this issue. -- men over 45 years old. this is and the does not get discussed. but it's fascinating that it has taken so long anyway for a study like this to come along which books that men stop the this study has been around for a long time, a 40 year study, i want to the study. is fascinating and interesting because... these be something like

8000 older dads a year and by all the dads we mean men over 45. the 20 ears ago 8000. now there are 35,000 older dads a year. one and 20 kids are born to men over 45. it seems obvious, doesn't it? i'm getting old. there are things like down syndrome which point directly to the age of a mother in most cases. you do have the odd case where the mother is in her 20s and the child is born with on the down syndrome scale. if there is an age—related with women, why not with men? and is a lwa ys with women, why not with men? and is always been the soon that male sperm is healthy all the way through. just because they keep having their children into their 80s and 90s. because they keep having their children into their 805 and 905.” think what is interesting about one of the extras quoted who said is important to teach 5choolboy5 about

fatherhood wear for women, that is alway5 fatherhood wear for women, that is always an in—built kind consideration. if women want to have children they had to think how late can they... lu and if i don't want ju5tification5 go through in life. they never put those words on the men 5top up the finding of this study shows men stop up the finding of this study shows that kids born to men age 45... study shows that kids born to men age 45. .. are more than 2096 to develop generational diabetes compared to men under 34. they had discovered some kind of health risk for older dads which we did not know about. hang on to the telegraph. write to the bomb a november date set for brazil. —— the telegraph. write to the bomb a november date set for brazil. -- the telegraph. we are destined for a story on brexit today. because we are in that kind of brexit groundhog day, nothing has

happened yet. no deal has emerged. anything that moves because a story. dominic raab has been summoned and he has been reluctant to do that until he has made a deal. the chair the committee has said that we scrutinise you while you are doing the deal. so dominic raab has written back and says i think i can come to you on november 21, it seems a suitable date. he thinks that maybe there will be a deal with the eu by november 21 when in fact he clarified later in the evening on november the 21st was the date that he was thinking would come along. november the 21st was the date that he was thinking would come alongm is interesting and big front page on the daily express as well, as in it, "praise a deal in 21 days of sodom as they wish there was a bridge to deal in 21 days. —— "a brexit deal set in 21 days of. this is what the government really wants to get a

sore about. they want the deal done. the eu is way for them to come up with. nicola ken you lead a that jaguar land rover story? jaguar land rover has had a whole host of problems and that they basically have said that they needed to 5p turnaround programme. their party had a plant that will go down to a three day week. they have discussed cuts as a result of brexit. —— {2.5 billion turnaround. they have cut 1,000 jobs to do with diesel. it is kind of this terrible mix of offe nce. kind of this terrible mix of offence. almost like a great circular globalisation story where procedures product kills jobs circular globalisation story where procedures product killsjobs in midland, big slowdown because china has a trade war with the us, which

chinese buyers are big buyerfor land rover, you know they will buy a new land rover this are so they're holding back the money. that affects us holding back the money. that affects us and affects demand. that puts you into a 3—4 day week. layer on top of that the problems of these omissions all across europe, that's another drop in sales. layer on top that the of brexit and you've gotjobs going in the midlands and staying in the table in the thread that's her jaguar land rover are going to open a plant in slovakia. they took over in 2008 and then not had a good time event really since they taken over? the midlands has had a good time of it. they kept the jobs there and they kept china land going. but they have warned as a brother manufacturer has one that brexit is causing problems. we will look at this again at 11:30pm. second part of the papers coming up at 11:30pm.

i hope you canjoin us for of the papers coming up at 11:30pm. i hope you can join us for that. of the papers coming up at 11:30pm. i hope you canjoin us for that. but for this hour that is it. thank you to my guests torcuil crichton from the daily record, and nicola bartlett from the daily mirror. don't forget you can see the front pages of the papers online on the bbc news website. it's all there for you, seven days a week at bbc.co.uk/papers. and if you miss the programme any evening you can watch it later on bbc iplayer. thank you to my guests torcuil crichton from the daily record, and nicola bartlett from the daily mirror. we'll all be back for a longer look at the papers at 11:30. we will go for more of those stories and a few new ones too. till then, cheerio. hello, acad here, wet or night across many parts of the uk which means across many parts of the uk which m ea ns frost across many parts of the uk which means frost is much more limited. —— ipod earair. means frost is much more limited. —— ipod ear air. here's a picture from hunger and the ipod ear air. here's a picture from hungerand the air ipod ear air. here's a picture from hunger and the air where i weather front has been hanging around from the move further east as we go through the night and another area of rain ploughing into east anglia and southeast england. a good deal of cloud around much of england,

wales and eastern scotland, outbreaks of rain and temperatures not going down too far here because you see the northern ireland and the northwest of scotland with clear skies may be the odd shower because those temperatures dip close to freezing if not below in a few spots. one or two fog patches for northern ireland so those are quite dense going into the morning, freezing fog patches and places too. thursday starts with this weather front covering parts of england, wales and eastern scotland. only slowing edging further east are in the day and taking the rain with it. it may well be the further east you are in england, that rain may not clear until quite later in the afternoon perhaps not until after dark. whereas elsewhere sunny spells developed, a few showers west in scotla nd developed, a few showers west in scotland and northern ireland especially in the west, one or two p°ppin9 especially in the west, one or two p°pping up especially in the west, one or two popping up their western parts of england and wales. there will be very hit and miss. many will stay dry and in the west northwesterly breeze, temperatures may come back a

degree or so. it was still feel ok because the wind is light. as a goat through thursday evening and night. there goes the last of the rain from the east, the showers in the west fade, largely clear and temperatures will drop awake and widely to get a widespread frost this friday start. sunshine cutting over in the west, rain heading towards the island —— to arrive. and that has to do with the former hurricane oscar on its way to the uk. it will come over and loses tropical carrot versus was still a deep area of low pressure capable of producing strong winds, gales and places and some rain. the rain will be in scotland and northern ireland during saturday. pushing into western parts of wales late in the day. winds picking up, it gales and disruptive winds northwest scotland. sunday is less windy still a bit of rain in the west. but back in the weekend, it is mild. this is bbc news.

the headlines at 11: the turkish authorities say he was strangled as soon as he entered the saudi consulate in istanbul a month ago, and his body was later dismembered. the journalist's murder increases pressure on saudi arabia, as america demands a ceasefire in yemen also tonight, a paralysed man is able to walk again, after surgeons fit an electrical device around his spine. and why the world of horseracing is one of the sports concerned about the potential impact of brexit. and at half past eleven we'll be taking an in—depth look at the papers with our reviewers torcuil crichton, the westminster editor at the daily record, and nicola bartlett, who's a political correspondent for the daily mirror stay with us for that.