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hello. it's thursday. it's ten o'clock. i'm victoria derbyshire. a shooting at a her outside los angeles leaves at least six people injured. the venue was hosting a country music night which is popular with students. we'll have the latest on this developing story. by the time your child is 13, you, their mum and dad, will have posted on average 1300 photos and videos of them on social media, according to england's children's commissioner today. she's warning that children are being datafied from birth. this mum reckons she gets consent from her daughter before posting pics of her. do you post images of your kids and do you get their permission first? let me know. prince charles says he'll stop meddling when he's king, telling the bbc exclusively that the idea that he'll keep campaigning about issues like the environment is nonsense. in a documentary to mark his 70th birthday he also talks about his charity work.
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i kept saying i want to be able to ta ke i kept saying i want to be able to take risks so that if it didn't work, it didn't work. but it was worth trying with the most difficult ones, the ones you find hardest to reach in society. we'll talk to the director of the documentary. days before we mark 100 years since the guns fell silent in world war one, why are people getting death threats for not wearing a poppy? and then on the way home we pulled up at traffic lights and my car was here and there was a car here and they rolled down the window and spat on the window and drove off. that is stoke playerjames mcclean. have you been criticised for not wearing a poppy? do you think it's our duty to wear one? do get in touch. hello. welcome to the programme. we're live until 11 this morning. we are each weekday. i want to show
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this photograph, baby in a cot with a built—in ipad, created by a dad who says it helps his daughter get off to sleep because it plays white noise. 0ne psychologist has described the creation as outrageous. if you have a baby right now and you are struggling to get them to sleep at night, what do you think of the ipad with a cot attached, or a cot with an ipad attached. it costs £1400. please get in touch and if you would like to ta ke in touch and if you would like to take part in the programme, please include your phone number so we can contact include your phone number so we can co nta ct you include your phone number so we can contact you and if you are texting we have got to charge you, i'm afraid. now the latest news. police in california are responding to a mass shooting at a bar in thousand oaks. they say at least 11 people including one officer were shot when gunfire broke out at the borderline bar and grill. their conditions are not known.
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witnesses say hundreds of people were in the country music bar at the time what i can tell you is the shooter is confined within the facility so there is no threat to the general public outside the bar and grill. i don't know what the status of the shooter is, if he has been captured 01’ shooter is, if he has been captured or neutralised, but what i can tell you is we don't feel that he is out of the bar and grill at this point. erica sigman was in the bar as the attack unfolded. she's been telling reporters what she saw. 0nce once the shots rang out and we were hiding under the stalls, there was a smoke bomb. my friend saw it because she was under the stalls with me. she saw the smoke bombs start to go off and we heard everyone say run. we went to the parking lot and we try to get near my car. i was there
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with a group of people, very amazing people, luckily two paramedics and an ex—veteran, thank god. very fortu nate to an ex—veteran, thank god. very fortunate to have them there because there were two people injured. and victoria will bring you any developments on this story as we get them on the programme. in other news, the prince of wales has made it clear he will keep his views on controversial issues to himself once he becomes king. he told a bbc documentary to mark his 70th birthday that he understands the limitations which apply to a monarch and promised not to meddle, saying he wasn't that stupid. he said the idea that he would continue making public interventions on topics when he is king was nonsense. democrats in the united states have criticised president trump after he sacked his most senior lawyer, the attorney general, jeff sessions. the two had repeatedly clashed over the inquiry into russian interference in the 2016 election. meanwhile, the white house has suspended the press pass of cnn journalist, jim acosta, who was described by the president as a rude, terrible person at a news
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conference following the mid—term elections. the children's commissioner for england, anne longfield, is urging internet firms to be transparent about the data they are collecting on children. she says youngsters have more than a thousand pictures of them posted online before they turn 13. ms longfield also wants the government to strengthen data protection laws in regard to children. and victoria will be discussing this story with parents and teachers in the next few minutes on the programme. a paraplegic athlete has decided to drop his legal action against luton airport after it acquired ten self—propelling wheelchairs for disabled passengers. justin levene dragged himself across the floor after his self—propelling wheelchair was lost. he refused the offer of a manual wheelchair that someone else would need to push saying it compromised his independence. he's been speaking to bbc breakfast. for the last year i've been in contact with luton and i very
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quietly and politely have been petitioning for a change in policy because that has been the most important thing out of all of this, making sure there are the proper provisions in place so if something like this does happen, because of course mistakes can occur, but the most important thing is that when they do happen, they are owned up to and are learned from. i have been trying to make sure that they change their policy for the better to have a more inclusive facility at the airport. justin levene. that's a summary of the news. back to you, victoria. in the next hour, we're going to look at how divisive the poppy seems to have become. the royal british legion says the poppy is a symbol of hope and remembrance. why are some including high profile footballers getting death threats for not wearing it? isn't it up to indiviudals whether they wear one or not? why do you wear or choose not to wear a poppy? and we'll talk about this, a baby's cot with a built—in ipad.
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the dad who created it says it's to help his daughter get to sleep by playing her white noise. we'll talk to the company behind the cot. tell us what you think of this invention. and on twitter: jasmine says: i don't believe we should post any photographs of our children. and this tweet: i asked my son if i can post any photos to any social media platform and if he says no, i respect that. we really want your views on this this morning, especially if you post images of your own children. if you would like to ta ke your own children. if you would like to take part in the programme, please include your phone number in your message and if you are texting your message and if you are texting you will be charged at the standard network rate. we can talk about that 110w. by the time your child reaches 13, you, their mum and dad, will have posted 1300 photos and videos of them on average
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on social media. and by the time your child turns 18, they themselves are likely to have posted an enormous 70,000 times. that's according to england's children's commissioner today who reveals more data is being collected about children and young people than ever before. she says schools needs to teach kids about how and why this is happening, and what their information could end up being used for. one of the issues at stake is consent and whether parents should be sharing photos or information of their children without them agreeing. ella brookbanks and her ten—year—old—daughter sophie are here. ella regularly posts photos of sophie, but not without her permission. charlotte philby is a mum of three young children. she also posts about her children. she said she wakes up at night worrying about it sometimes. tina harris is the deputy head at a secondary school, which is trying to teach kids about their data. emily frith is here from the children's commissioner's office. welcome to all of you and thank you
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for coming on the programme. emily, we will begin with you because it is your report today. what kind of data is being collected about children? it is all sorts of things. when pa rents it is all sorts of things. when parents post on social media, through smart speakers, internet connected toys, but also public services. like when you beep your ticket at the train, by schools or hospitals, that data footprint is getting bigger and bigger. what kind of information? date of birth and name? exactly but also likes and dislikes, their gender, which can be used to put information together to profile children in future. how might the data gets used? we think there are some short—term risks with certain posts. finding out giles‘s location. also long—term risks, like profiling, for future employment checks, criminaljustice, even identity fraud in future. barclays things that two thirds of identity fraud affecting those over 18 by 2030 will be to do with sharenting.
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sharenting is the word people use for this. do you worry about this?” have never worried about what will happen in 20 years' time. should you think about it? you probably should start thinking about it. but do people think about these things 20 years down the line? do they realistically? i don't think they do. why do you post pictures of your daughter? because she is beautiful, look at her! she is lovely and i am proud of her accomplishments. she is a bit of an extrovert and she likes to show off a little bit. she is starting a drama class quite soon. she loves football and dance. we have friends and family not around us, and ourfamily have friends and family not around us, and our family is in manchester and we are newcastle, so it is nice for her to see things and nice were there to see herself on her tablet or my phone to see she is doing
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well. —— it is nice for her to see herself. and i like to boast. there is boastfulness about it because she is boastfulness about it because she is my daughter and i am proud of her. how do you feel about your mum posting pictures of you?” her. how do you feel about your mum posting pictures of you? i am not too upset about it and i like the things she posts. does your mom always ask your permission? most of the time, yes. is that explicit permission? how does that conversation go?m is that explicit permission? how does that conversation go? it is not an explicit conversation. i am going to post this, what are your thoughts? it doesn't happen around that. i have always worked around social media. the business as i work with are always social media orientated. my practice is good practice. that might be true but the data collected by tech giants and social media companies and future employers and public services in the future, it may be that you are really positive and the way you post is responsible, but there is all the private stuff being collected. surely that is the internet
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companies that need to look at the restrictions? that is interesting. where does the responsibility lie? you are mother of three, charlotte. how old? eight, five and three and my youngest is just old how old? eight, five and three and my youngest isjust old enough how old? eight, five and three and my youngest is just old enough to how old? eight, five and three and my youngest isjust old enough to be aware of instagram and aware that things that she has done and said and written could become part of public sphere. for me, i am really interested in the idea of whose responsibility it is and i think it is our responsibility to equip our children with the tools to make the right decisions for themselves when the time comes. but you are posting pictures of your children now and waking up in the night worrying about it? yes, but i am very mindful of what i post and why. it almost doesn't matter, does it? it doesn't matter what you post if they are collecting it. it is really useful to about what you are
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posting. is their date of birth included? can school uniform be seen with the name of the school? i am very mindful of that and the things that i do share very much within reason and i am not going to put up a picture of my child... if i put something up about my children it is generally a funny story my daughter has written at school. photo where you can't see the child but it relates to something else in my life. i do it because being a parent is so entwined with what i am and what i do and i am a writer so by virtue of myjob i am talking about my life but i don't give away information. if i am talking about my daughter's birthday, i do it a few days away from the event. i am mindful but also flawed and i am trying to navigate this new and complex world. your children are eight, five and three and you could get consent from all of them.” don't believe my five—year—old or my three—year—old is equipped to give me consent on anything. they don't know what cereal they want for breakfast! i am know what cereal they want for breakfast! lam not know what cereal they want for breakfast! i am not going to have a conversation about consent. maybe my eight—year—old. she is an introvert but that said one of her friends started a youtube channel yesterday. blue blood is on television. i want
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to be on television! —— bluebell. there is a disconnect between what she wants, and he wants to be cool and for her friends to see it, but when she feels exposed, that is the pa rt of when she feels exposed, that is the part of the conversation when she says she doesn't want me to put things up there. it is my personal business, she told me last night. intriguing. does the children's commissioner believe it is down to pa rents to commissioner believe it is down to parents to be the responsible ones about what they are posting when it comes to their kids? 0r down to the social media giants to back off from the information they are collecting? we think it is a bit of both. we are not saying parents shouldn't post things but stop and think about what you are posting and who is seeing
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it. we are asking internet companies to be more transparent about what they are collecting and make terms and conditions simply so kids can know what they are signing up to. and we want the government to keep reviewing the rules about this so that we know what is happening. from schools point of view, where do teachers come in, if anywhere, because the curriculum is pretty full at the moment? it is that we deliver this through psat and we touch on digital resilience in key stage three, which is when they are 11. as stage three, which is when they are 11. as soon as they come into school, the first module is your digital footprint, school, the first module is your digitalfootprint, identity school, the first module is your digital footprint, identity fraud. and that is with paper as well as digitally. and then last week we had a digital awareness workshop for parents. did anyone come? it was low attended but it was about ten and we start with small numbers and we persevere and we hope they get bigger. are you saying to 11—year—olds, the last year of primary, that they need to get pa rents to primary, that they need to get parents to ask if you are co mforta ble parents to ask if you are comfortable with having your picture on their facebook page or instagram account? in all truthfulness, no. we are talking to them about what they
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are talking to them about what they are uploading and sharing. like birthdays, images of school uniform, and being identified easily through what they are posting. we speak to them about that content and i think we deliver that really well at our school. nationally i think the framework needs to be looked at. it is massive now and it is evolving so quickly. how much access we have to applications and at what age children have access. i do think they're probably needs to be further guidance around that. from a politician or the nhs?” guidance around that. from a politician or the nhs? i think there should probably be a working party ofa should probably be a working party of a mixture of those professionals and consultation with parents as well. what is your advice to pa rents, well. what is your advice to parents, emily? what is the children's commissioner's advice to pa rents children's commissioner's advice to parents as a result of the information you have discovered today? we have top tips for parents. muting a smart speaker if you don't wa nt muting a smart speaker if you don't want it to listen to you. changing
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default passwords when you get a new toy making it less easy for people toy making it less easy for people to hack into it. think about what you are posting and if there is information you don't want to share. who are you sharing it with? real friends or people who don't know so well? that sort of thing. anything you have heard that would make you think twice about posting a particular image of your daughter? though because my controls are quite strict anyway. my instagram and twitter are completely controlled andl twitter are completely controlled and i know who can see it and i approve anyone who can look at it. i know but what about the tech giant harvesting the info? i don't know what i can do about that at this data that is where regulation comes in. i control it as much as i can. ann-marie says: my brother restricts posting any images of his children online and i miss not being a proud auntie but it isa miss not being a proud auntie but it is a good idea. and this one: they won't thank you when they grow up. how about their right to privacy?
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and this text: is the only issue is parents who don't use the privacy settings correctly. and christie says: it is fine to post images online of children as long as you have reversed the settings set to your preference. then there is no issue. is that right, emily? it is complicated. we want to see more settings education for torture and in schools. but that doesn't stop facebook and instagram using the information you have posted. —— settings education for children. yes, and the information is public hated and it is hard for people to understand. we want them to make that simpler. —— the information is complicated. and have a look at this photograph, cot with an ipad attached. this is the creator of it. we are going to talk to a representative from the company called charlotte rollinson, from
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babeek, the furniture company. what on earth has your boss designed this for? for so many reasons. i don't even know where to start. he primarily created it because his daughter, my goddaughter, had trouble sleeping. we found that white noise really did help to settle her, so he was using his phone to create the white noise. many parents do this and they know that once they are using their phone, if a text or call comes through, it disturbs the child's sleep and you are back to square one. we did a bit of product research into this and we found that a lot of people liked it for different reasons and they gave us different reasons and they gave us different reasons and they gave us different reasons why they personally would use it. we had people saying they would use it to play classical music to their child. dad that were working away said they
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would love it so they can do a video call and see their baby from anywhere in the world. does it have to be in the cot? 0ne educational psychologist is quoted in the times this morning saying: from what we know about screen time, actually this invention is outrageous. how do you respond to that? can ijust point out that we sell this with the docking station. the ipad is not permanently in there. it can be removed at any time. let's find out what some parents here think of it. my initial reaction, i'm sorry, but this is another thing that has been created to instil in need and make money out of parents. i don't feel comfortable with it. that said, i also had a little teddy with an in—built white noise thing that somebody gave me for one of my children and it was great. i feel very uncomfortable about it. it is
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another example of making money out of parents. i think it is vulgar, completely vulgar, and it creates dependency from a young age. how do you respond to that briefly, charlotte ? you respond to that briefly, charlotte? this is another point i would like to make. a lot of people would like to make. a lot of people would hang a baby mobile over their child's court, for many reasons. music, colours, stimulation. that is exactly what the ipad does, except the ipad is installed safely into the ipad is installed safely into the ipad. when the baby is at an age when they can reach up and pulled the mobile damn, that then becomes a choking hazard. 0ur cots designed so they cannot get the ipad ad. the only way they can get it out is when the parents remove it with a sucker that we provide. it is the most safe. i understand the point you are making about the choking hazard but you don't get addicted to baby
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mobiles and the research is in its infa ncy mobiles and the research is in its infancy but you can be addicted to screen time. physically safe, not emotionally safe, says one of our guests. and how much is it? for the cot? the whole thing. we do not provide the ipad. we provide the cot and the docking station. it retails online at £1500, however at all of our baby shows it is £850. i am just going to leave it there. thank you. sharp intake of breath when you hear the price. i think one of the risks around being able to call to the internet is that some of the information can be stored but not securely, so that conversation could be hacked in the future. that is another risk you might want to consider. thank you very much for coming on the programme and for your time. sunday marks 100 years
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since the guns fell silent in world war one. as we prepare to remember those who died in all conflicts since then, the wearing of the poppy is becoming more controversial. it was introduced in 1921 by the british legion, who say it's a symbol of hope and remembrance. not wearing it has caused controversy on the football pitch for stoke player james mcclean. and manchester united's nemanja matic is the latest player to decide against wearing one. why is this simple symbol so complicated ? it started as a simple symbol of remembrance, but in recent years the poppy has grown far beyond the lapel. they've popped up in all sorts of places, from puppets to toasters, causing tensions between those who support it as well as those who don't. and, for some, the decision not to wear a poppy is national news. we'll hear later about the footballer who has received death threats for not wearing it.
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you might have heard the term "poppy fascism" sometimes used to describe people who draw attention to public figures who don't wear the poppy, but they're a tradition that's been running for 100 years, so where did it begin? let's go back to 1915. world war one. picture the scene. john mccrae, a canadian army doctor, came across a devastating scene of chaos and destruction at the second battle of ypres, inspiring him to write a poem. if ye break faith with us who die we shall not sleep though poppies grow in flanders fields. he saw so many casualties and the way in which war destroyed lives, and he too lost valuable friends and comrades. yet, defiantly, the red flanders poppy grew in the muddy battlefields, and he was inspired to write the poem in flanders fields. in 1921 the poppy was adopted by the british legion to be sold
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to raise money for veterans. the debate over poppies isn't new. the bbc is closely watched for its policies around their presenters and on air guests. some see it as a test of patriotism for public figures. the discussion has also extended onto the football pitch. manchester united midfielder nemanja matic recently said he will no longer wear a poppy on his shirt because it reminds him of when serbia was bombed when he was just 12. he said in an instagram post he didn't want to offend anyone, but it was a personal choice. another footballer, james mcclean, has received death threats and abuse for his decision not to wear it in 2012. james mcclean, the 23—year—old midfielder, was criticised for his decision not to wear a remembrance day poppy. playing at home, you feel you should have the support of your own fans, and i didn't and, you know, that disrupted my form. and then on the way home, we pulled up at traffic lights,
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and i pulled up, and my car's here, and there's a car here, and the car rolled down the window, spat in the window and drove off. he still refuses to wear them today. mcclean is from northern ireland, where the role played by the british army means the poppy is a divisive symbol. and you might remember in 2016 when england and scotland got into trouble with fifa for their decision to wear them during a match. fifa were treating poppies as a political symbol. i think the stance that's been taken by fifa is utterly outrageous. fifa's now changed its stance, but it's notjust public figures who have beenjudged for their choices. i was on a radio call—in show last year discussing this. if you dare to stick your head above the parapet like this, you're the one that gets shot at, and you can't have a grown—up debate
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about it in this country. remembrance originally was the people had lost loved ones mourning their dead. now it's become sort of a nationalistic sparring match between competing sides. but lots of young people continue to wear it as a sign of their pride for generations of ex—servicemen and women. it's important as we move through the generations that world war one and two are not forgotten. it's a symbol of remembrance for all those thousands of men that we lost so many years ago that we wouldn't be here today without them. 0n those battlefields, after the mud and the rain and everything was washed away, the poppy was the first symbol of peace and hope that came out of that, and i think that's really what the poppy represents now. the royal british legion say the poppy is a symbol of remembrance and hope, not a symbol of death or a sign of support for war, but 100 years after the war that
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seeded the poppy, and with nobody now left who served on those fields, have modern values and beliefs grown too far from the original roots of the appeal? ruth on twitter says: "i always wear a poppy for both my grandfathers who served in the army and air force during the second world war and also in remembrance of the lives that have been lost in conflict." jimmy on twitter says "i wear one but it's a choice people should not moan if others wear one or not as it's a choice. we have freedom of speech and those soldiers did not die for people to be forced to wear one." sam on twitter says: "i wear a red poppy in remembrance for the fallen men, a white one to signify peace and a purple one in remembrance to the fallen animals." jez on twitter: "i wear a poppy. i see remembrance as for everyone
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affected by the insanity of war—politicians‘ failings, on every side. everyone killed has a family." let's return to california where there's been a mass shooting at a bar in los angeles. several people are reported to have died. it happened in the thousand oaks area at a place called the borderline bar and grill. a man walked into the bar just before midnight and started shooting. it was hosting a country music night popular with students. people smashed windows with chairs to get out. police and local media have surrounded the bar. ican i can tell you there are multiple fatalities, multiple injuries, and one of the victims is one of the sheriff deputies who responded. as well as the shooter. right now the scene has been made safe. 0ur investigators are in there and it is really in the preliminary stages of piecing all this together to determine the sequence of what happened, how things went down, and
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i don't have a firm number to give you on fatalities and injured because it keeps changing. we still have people showing up at local ers who evacuated themselves and got rights and whatever and a showing up on their own at the local hospital. the number keeps changing. this eyewitness describes what she saw. i was on the dance floor and i heard the gunshot, so i looked back, and then all of a sudden everyone screamed "get down," so everyone on the dance floor ran off the dance floor and ducked behind something, dog piled on the floor somewhere. sorry... i'm freezing and shocked at the same time. and it was somewhat silent for, like, five seconds, and then some
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kids that were closer to the bar on the side i was on got up and started running towards the back door i was near and said, "everyone, run — he's coming." and so it was a huge panic. everyone got up. i was kind of left on the floor, until some guy came behind me and grabbed me, and dragged me out. and of course we will keep you updated on the latest events here on bbc news. if you want to get in touch with us today you are very welcome, and you can use the hashtag victoria live. this one from glasgow. "poppies have sadly become a nationalistic symbol now. frightening and very sad since people lost their lives for a more free and fair world." if you are e—mailing and happy for us to contact you, that your phone number in that e—mail. —— put your phone number.
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ever thought about becoming an mp? parliament needs more women mps because we are still massively under—represented when it comes to the people who make the laws that have a big impact on our daily life. at the moment there are 208 female mps — meaning they make up just a third of the house of commons. in this country we are doing better than average — worldwide just a quarter of those elected to parliament are women. elected women from across the world are meeting in westminster right now to dicuss how to help women like you into politics. like you into politics. labour mp harriet harman — who is the longest—serving female mp in the history of the house of commons is leading the campagin — of commons is leading the campaign — she describes the worst thing that's happened to her in her 36 years as an mp. when i first started out as an mp, people, other mps, used to think that i was stupid because i was a woman. seriously?
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yes, and in fact one mp called out across the chamber, "stupid cow". i mean, the idea was that women were subordinate to men, that we didn't know was much, that we weren't as intelligent are as hard—working as men, and that was only, well, i mean, it was 30 years ago. but really we've had to make that change to insist we are not inferior to men, we are not subordinate to men, we want to be on equal terms, and actually it's better for decision—making in parliament, in government, if there was a balanced team of women and men, and notjust men on their own. why would any woman want to work in a sexist, misogynist, bullying environment, that involves confrontational, tribal debate, has no official maternity leave, and no creche? because that's how we make change. you get in there, and work with other women, to make sure there is change. because without women's voices being heard in the house of commons, who's there to press for extended maternity leave, for more childcare? who is there to highlight the problems of domestic violence? you know, it's not an easy path, but unless we get in there and fight for this change it will never
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happen, so really it is a challenge but it's also a great opportunity, and it's a real privilege to be a member of parliament, and all these women here who are from all around the world, they all have their struggles, but they're are determined to and are making change. here are three more labour women — jessie joe jacobs is in middlesbrough, she's a charity leader and tried to become an labour mp at the last election, but wasn't selected as the candidate; tulip siddiq, who's been a labour mp in london for three years now. she's currently seven months pregnant with her second child. laura mcalpine, was selected as the labour candidate for harlow in april and is campaigining to be harlow‘s next mp whenever the next gen election is. 0n. harriet harman said when she first put into the commons in the 19805 first put into the commons in the 1980s she was thought to be stupid because she was a woman. someone called her in stupid cow. has that
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changed in 2018? i think things have changed. i used to work in parliament as a researcher 20 years ago and it was very different, looked a very different parliament, soi looked a very different parliament, so i think things have changed, but you still encounter that attitude, "you're just a silly little girl." the way i saw it, when we had a westminster hall debate about banning donald trump from coming into this country, and i stood up and spoke quite strongly i suppose about donald trump, that was a time when i think there was something about a fairly young woman speaking out about a billionaire politician that the men just couldn't handle, and that is when i got the most patronising comments, laughs, "sit down, you silly little girl," "what down, you silly little girl," "what do you know?" they say under their breath but you can hear it, it's meant to be heard. laura mcalpine why on earth would you want to be an mp? it is important that women, of course, become mps. but why do you wa nt course, become mps. but why do you want to? what is motivating you?”
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wa nt want to? what is motivating you?” want to? what is motivating you?” want to represent the town where i am from, and i think that's incredibly important. it is not so much about being a woman, but about being a working—class woman from a working—class town. i'm representing harlow, and i went to the school in harlow, and i went to the school in harlow, i grew up there, sol actually really understand people's concerns actually really understand people's concerns and worries. 0k. jessie, you have ambitions to become a labourmp in yourarea. you have ambitions to become a labour mp in your area. you see people have implied you can't run for certain seats because of the colour of your skin? ie you wouldn't be elected there. tell us about that. i think what we have to understand is that although parliament is becoming more equal in terms of the labour party we have more female mps and more black and minority mps than any other party, so we do have a way to go and we do have unconscious bias. it is when we have unconscious bias. it is when we have had years of male domination in politics both a regional,
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international, national level, people looked a certain person as they can imagine being a leader. 20 years ago parliament was full of white, middle—class men, and have been having to change that. we have women who are trailblazing the way and being that kind of inspiration to women like me, but we still have some very, you know, old—fashioned ideas about what a political leader could and should be and i am very proud of the labour party does so much to try to address this, but it is still there. tulip, you are seven months pregnant. you're due to have ac months pregnant. you're due to have a c section, and there might be a brexit bought around the time you are at you. thank you for giving this personal information. you might have to get right into work after having a c section. how will you do that? the first thing i said to my husband when i found out i was pregnant, "what happens at the brexit bought is on the day and giving birth?" and he said, "that shouldn't be the first thing on your mind right now. " and i said, "i
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couldn't help it, i'm in a constituency where 75% of my constituents voted to remain," brexit is what i get the most number of e—mails on. i am going to come in because i can't trust to be pairing after what happened tojo swinson. explained, briefly and concisely and in normal language, about the pairing section, to our viewers, what will happen when someone is, for example, having a c section. you're asking a politician to speak normal language but i will try. if you can't come to parliament for any reason, if you're sick, out of the country giving birth, then you are supposed to be paired with someone from the opposite party, so you don't vote, someone from the opposite party doesn't, and your votes are cancelled out, effectively what the system is meant to do. what happened is a few months agojo swinson who is a lib dem mp got paired with the conservative mp who broke the rules and went to vote, which means his vote counted she, i
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just —— and she had just given birth and was at home so report didn't earn. just because one person broke the rules, doesn't mean the rest of them would? i'm sorry, but i think it was such a terrible thing to do, andi it was such a terrible thing to do, and i can't help. it is not about individuals but the pairing system asa individuals but the pairing system as a whole. i have lost faith in it. you are right, i will have my see section, i will come in, against the doctor's orders, because there is no way i am not voting in the brexit vote. will you bring your newborn into the lobby with you?” vote. will you bring your newborn into the lobby with you? i don't think i will have much of a choice, it will be maybe his first outing in the world commented parliament. the salary is really good, £77,000 a year. it is too high, i believe. if you got elected would you, what, give some away, or what?” you got elected would you, what, give some away, or what? i think there are lots of things you can do with the money, you know. and i'm not in that position at the moment. but it is a hell of a lot of money,
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a lot more than the national average wage. but is that one of the reasons why it is attractive? no, absolutely not. i think there are lots of other jobs i would be interested in that would pay a lot more money than the role of an mp, it is a real privilege, of course, but it comes with a lot of responsibility. sure. jessie, do you believe it really is still harderfor women to jessie, do you believe it really is still harder for women to break into politics, and if you do why? because the labour party has been really goodin the labour party has been really good in terms of parliament we have good in terms of parliament we have good representation, but looking across the country where we don't, for instance, have all women shortlists, we do have a significantly less number of women for instance leading local councils. i don't think there is one regional mayor is a woman at the moment. i mentioned unconscious bias. you also have... firstly, you have the fact that we do need more women to put themselves forward. i rememberwhen
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i was having conversations with my own family about whether i should stand, i had ran charities, worked with women, represented my region on strategic board, and i said to my family "i don't know if i have the skills and experiences to be an elected representative, " skills and experiences to be an elected representative," as my sister said, "jessie, do you think borisjohnson sat with sister said, "jessie, do you think boris johnson sat with his family and said "i'm not sure i have the skills and experiences to run as mayor of london,"" because he hasn't, he is born into privilege and lived with that expectation he would be a person who goes into power, and we as working—class women also need to have that expectation, we need to represent women. women are getting in terms terms of looking at how much women are paid, that women's work is still significantly paid less than men. there is an absolute need for women to be at the forefront of british politics. well, thank you, all of you, very much. we have finished, now, jessie, but thank you very much for your time and good luck with what you're expecting over the next couple of months. thank you very much. "i'm not that stupid," says
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prince charles. he says he will stop speaking out on topics about when becomes king. and would you buy one of these? it's a cot with a built—in ipad — and the developer says he created it to help his daughter — that's her — get to sleep. we'll talk to a child psychologist and we want to hear from you. we wa nt we want to hear from parents around the country. if you're getting in touch on twitter, use the hashtag victoria live, and if you're e—mailing it is victoria@bbc.co.uk. next — a new home for two beluga whales who were held in captivity in china. because attitudes towards whales performing in marine parks
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are changing, owners are under pressure to move the animals to a more natural environment. uk—based company merlin entertainments has long vowed to rehome two beluga whales held in captivity in a park in china, which it bought in 2012. but it says there hasn't been a suitable place to move them to — until now. this is the first beluga whale sanctuary of its kind in the world and we're very excited. we are in a perfectly formed bay. if you look up and see the clips you can see the whole surrounding area. it is beautifully sheltered from the atla ntic beautifully sheltered from the atlantic waters. 0ne beautifully sheltered from the atlantic waters. one of the most amazing things about this whole project has been how long it has taken us to work out exactly where the best spotters, and this spot is perfect. if you imagine a beluga whale to about four metres —— the best spot is, that's about 12 feet, we need enough space in the ocean and depth to accommodate them at
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least three times. we are obviously pleased that the sanctuary has finally come to light, and that it seems like it is actually going to happen, because we've been campaigning for this entry for many years now, but obviously we want to make sure that their welfare needs are met —— for this sanctuary for many years. and that it doesn'tjust this sanctuary for many years. and that it doesn't just turn this sanctuary for many years. and that it doesn'tjust turn into another attraction. quarter to 11.
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prince charles has told the bbc he won't meddle when he becomes king. he has long campaigned on issues that are important to him like the environment but he said in a bbc documentary it would be nonsense to continue to do that when he is the monarch. here is a sneak peek from the documentary in which he also talks about the prince's charity trust. i kept saying i would want to ta ke trust. i kept saying i would want to take risks, so if it did work, it didn't work, but it is worth working with the ones that are the most difficult, the ones who are hardest to reach in society. joining me isjohn bridcut, who directed the documentary. tells us about the meddling bit. —— tells us. asked him about the accusations there have been at the
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medals in issues of public importance, as the prince of wales, and he bridled a bit at the use of the word meddling, although i think he is very familiar with it. and he said it is more about motivating. he said it is more about motivating. he said that "if it's meddling to talk about the inner cities, as he did —— inner cities," as he did format yea rs inner cities," as he did format years ago, and the state of housing and so on, then he is proud, proud to bea and so on, then he is proud, proud to be a meddler. but then he drew what i think is a very important distinction between his role as prince of wales and the role he will assume as monarch, because he says, you know, "there is only room for one sovereign at the time," ie it is no use the prince of wales or the heir to the throne thinking here she is the sovereign and has to behave like the sovereign. so he said any idea that he's going to continue to intervene in public affairs, as he has done, ones, oras
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intervene in public affairs, as he has done, ones, or as he put it, "if i have to succeed," is nonsense. and he was very emphatic about that. what did you learn about him, if anything, that you didn't know before? how does he strike you, as a man approaching his 70th birthday, has been heir to the throne for decades, still not king. that's right. as prince william said, he's still got hisjob to right. as prince william said, he's still got his job to do. right. as prince william said, he's still got hisjob to do. i think right. as prince william said, he's still got his job to do. i think the thing that above all strikes you, or two things, really. he is a very gracious man, and i don't know that people necessarily appreciate that, andi people necessarily appreciate that, and i certainly have found that. i've worked with him over a number of years now for different films, and he's always very, very courteous, very and he's always very, very courteous, very gracious. and he's always very, very courteous, very gracious. the other thing is an extraordinary energy, both mental and physical. and when i tell you that quite apart from his public engagements years doing, he has about 500 meetings a year, sort
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of private business meetings, with people from charities he is associated with or organisations he is the patron of, and these are things going on behind the scenes and he is reading reports and he is contributing ideas, definitely. you know, to me, i think, contributing ideas, definitely. you know, to me, ithink, well, ithink a lot of people would be quite surprised he exactly 70, because he is very energetic, and his staff, some of the staff are working with him until midnight, and then have to go on the sort of process, the work they have been discussing. they will be on thejob they have been discussing. they will be on the job until two o'clock in the morning. i spoke to somebody up in birkhall, the scottish home, where that is a fairly regular occurrence because is he catching up after dinner. 0k. well, people can watch, and see how energetic they think years. tonight, bbc one, nine o'clock. that's right. john, thank you for coming in. we appreciate it.
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pleasure. during world war i it was a game of football that famously brought soldiers from both sides together, at least for a day. on christmas day, in 1914, british and german soldiers called a temporary truce, to kick a ball around on no man's land, which was the term used by soldiers to describe the ground between the two opposing trenches — usually a gap ofjust over 200 metres. well, in a few days it'll be 100 years since the official ceasefire which ended the war, and now british and german troops are coming together again to play a match. it's happening in this country and the women's match kicks off at midday. 0ur reporter in nottingham is colin hazleden — what's it all about, colin? welcome to the oldest football ground in the world. we are expecting around 7000 and this is
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the first of these games of remembrance. men play this evening, when in at lunchtime. delighted to have somebody as a diplomat with me. you will play for the british army today, and it means a lot to you because your grandfather was a footballer and fought in world war ii? footballer and fought in world war ii ? that's footballer and fought in world war ii? that's correct. a privilege to be part of such a great occasion and lam be part of such a great occasion and i am proud not be part of such a great occasion and lam proud notjust be part of such a great occasion and i am proud notjust to represent the army but my family as well. the other fantastic match. do you know what you are expecting? not too sure, but i think he would be very happy. margaret, the head coach, coaching you guys towards what you hope will be a win. what are you hoping from the standard of football? i think the army team now will give an aside, as with the germans, a hard—fought match, as you can imagine between any national match between the british and the germans. what will this be like for your women? a big crowd expected, 7000. many will never have competed in an arena quite like this, so to do it, what an absolute balls, and
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just remember the reason we are called's, to show our respect to those fallen in previous conflicts —— the reason we are at here. those fallen in previous conflicts -- the reason we are at here. well, iam -- the reason we are at here. well, i am delighted to see from the german side we have a captain today. what is it likely to come here and play the sort of atmosphere? very special honour, and we feel so happy to be here, and proud, because it is a great event. everyone is so kind and friendly, the trading conditions we re and friendly, the trading conditions were perfect, so now we are very excited. i was going to say, does the friendships stop a little at 12 o'clock? for 90 minutes, maybe. well, we will see what the result is. thank you all very much for speaking to us. the matches will be available on the bbc red button, both of them. the women at noon and the men playing at the city ground, the men playing at the city ground, the home of nottingham forest, also happening on the red button. cheers, colin, thank you so much. have a
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look at this photo. a cot with a built—in ipad. created by a dad who says it's to help his daughter to get off to sleep — by playing white noise. 0ne psychlogist has described it as " earlier we spoke to charlotte rolinson from the baby furniture company which designed the tablet. she defended the decision to include the ipad. a lot of people would hang a baby tie over their ba by‘s a lot of people would hang a baby tie over their baby's cot for a lot of reasons, colours, stimulation, which is exactly what our ipad does except it is installed safely into the ipad. when the baby is at an age they can reach up and pull down a mobile it then becomes a hazard. 0ur pods are designed so they cannot get out that ipod. the only way they can is when the period removes it with
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the attachment we provide that when the attachment we provide that when the parent removes it. is that good or bad? we can speak now to two mums. sandra igwe — who has two tollders — one's nine months old and the other is two — they both use cots. she also runs a motherhood group for mums. and ria michin who has seven children — her youngest is just two years old. she joins us from scarborough. what do you think? outrageous. why does a child need an ipad? why can't you have a child close to... i don't understand why they need an ipad. and as for the hall cot mobile debate, that is a stimulant as well. why aren't our children being kept close to us so we can put them to sleep naturally. what do you think,
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sandra? i want to buy it. they seem amazing. i think as mothers we underestimate how much we need any moment to get things done in the house. i had two under twos and i use not only ipad, tvs, anything to entertain my children. and actually... when they are trying to get to sleep? oh, no. during the day my two—year—old loved her ipad, she learned her colours, abc, animals, absolutely everything, from her ipad. and now it being in her cot is even better because now she will be safe whilst watching all of this on the tv and ipad as well. i think we should just be mindful that as mothers we need, you know, a minute or two to run to the toilet, turn off the cooking, just do something important in the house, and i think anipadin important in the house, and i think an ipad in the cot says so much hassle. look what she's doing now! ifi hassle. look what she's doing now! if i had an ipad it would be ok. what do you see, sandra? sorry,
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you're listening to is an drive. that is natural behaviour. she is mimicking year, she wants to be with you —— you are listening to sandra. by you —— you are listening to sandra. by putting her in the cot she is not going to learn anything. a moment in the cot with an ipad is a perfect solution for a lot of issues, and i think, you know, actually having... we are discussing a night—time with access to that thing. a lot of mums are always messaging and asking, "how can! are always messaging and asking, "how can i put my baby to sleep?" what other techniques? they have tried absolutely everything, and actually i have heard some of them giving feedback... have the dry biological nurturing, is the baby on the breast? there are so many ways to get a baby to sleep. there are so many ways, and actually sometimes a month and try about a hundred options and it doesn't work, and in fa ct if options and it doesn't work, and in fact if someone found putting an ipad inner child's room actor got her child as with everything obey.
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thatin her child as with everything obey. that in her child's room. if you are a mum, called lazy... i said it is lazy, then. if she is using the ipad in place of herself. oh, really? it's not lazy. mums needs are many options. mike it still doesn't sleep through the night and if someone told me giving her an ipad could make her sleep i would do it in a heartbeat, i would. make her sleep i would do it in a heartbeat, iwould. having seven children, i do know what that he gives light. having one that is two that still wakes in the night, i know what fatigue is like —— i know what fatigue is like. but i wouldn't turn down at that. that is good for you, amazing for you, but u nfortu nately for you, amazing for you, but unfortunately for other mothers that is not always the case. and saying... things can be a solution. thank you both. thank you so much for coming on the programme. good to see you. thank you. joel on twitter says "humans have raised babies for
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yea rs says "humans have raised babies for years without tech. we should solve bigger problems than ipads in cot. " "why give an ipad to baby to sleep? reader may be a story." jenny says she has just become a reader may be a story." jenny says she hasjust become a motherfor the first time. i do play nursery rhymes through my phone to help them sleep. but i don't like that idea of the ipad. i don't want him to become addicted to detect and it feels like an easy and impersonal way to get them to sleep. thank you very much for those. bbc newsround live is next. —— bbc newsroom live is next. thank you for your company. have a good day. good morning. a rather showery start to the day, particularly across the west of the uk. quite a few rainbow centre in from weather watchers, and
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this glorious one was sent in from 0ban. fairly dry and decent start across eastern areas, some sunshine at the moment and that will continue. some sunshine across scotla nd continue. some sunshine across scotland but then heavy rain into the south west of scotland, east of northern ireland, west wales and the far south—west of england. strong winds as well. maximum temperature up winds as well. maximum temperature up to about 11 to maybe 16, still on the mild side. the rain will then continue to spread north into the north of scotland, becoming a bit more dry in the south—west. further east there will be some dry and bright clear weather, also for northern ireland, temperatures getting down from five to seven celsius. then on friday it will turn very windy and wet for all of us, especially across the west of the uk where you have the strongest winds. goodbye. you're watching bbc newsroom live.
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it's11am, and these are the main stories this morning: 11 people are killed and others injured after a gunman opens fire in a nightclub in california. i was on the dance floor and i heard the gunshots, so i looked back and then i... all of a sudden, everyone screamed, "get down!" prince charles vows to keep his opinions to himself when he becomes king. in his own words, he's "not that stupid" to meddle. 0n the eve of his 70th birthday, he tells a bbc documentary it was worth taking a risk to set up the prince's trust to help disadvantaged young people. if it didn't work, it didn't work. but it was worth trying
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