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you're watching bbc newsroom live. it's 11:003m and these are the main stories this morning: pressure on theresa may to get cabinet backing for her eu withdrawal plans, as labour's spokesman says brexit could be stopped if the she can't bring back a deal. if she fails they would have to be a general election. that's on the table including a public vote. at least 29 people have died and more than 200 are missing as wildfires continue to spread across the us state of california. two men are to appear in court charged in connection with a collision in sheffield on friday which killed four people, including a father and his son. "motivated by spite". the australian woman accused of starting a nationwide food scare by placing needles in strawberries. a bbc investigation to expose ‘fake news‘ uncovers disinformation by russia claiming that the us army has been experimenting on humans at a secret laboratory in georgia. good morning.
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welcome to bbc newsroom live. our main story is the intense pressure on the prime minister to come forward with a brexit withdrawal deal within days. this morning, labour confirmed it could seek to block brexit by holding another referendum. shadow brexit secretary, sir keir starmer, said the party would push for a general election if parliament rejected a brexit deal, but if that failed, another vote would be on the table. theresa may's approach is also being criticised by both wings of her own party. the former foreign secretary, borisjohnson, urging the cabinet to "mutiny" against her plans, while the former education secretary justine greening said they represented the worst of all worlds. let's go live to westminster and our assistant political editor, norman smith. it's getting more and more of the
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brow? we are reaching some defining moment. senior governments are saying the next 48 hours are crucial in terms of whether there is going to be eight breakthrough because if that isn't there is no chance of an eu summit this month and if that doesn't happen the preparations for no deal have to be massively ramped up no deal have to be massively ramped up which of course creates its own dynamic momentum pushing towards a no deal of them. there's a as well if it goes beyond this month whether parliament would have the time to get the necessary brexit legislation through and lastly there is a view in numberten through and lastly there is a view in number ten they want to get this done before christmas. if the vote is pushed into the new year perhaps mps might be in a different mindset by january whereas coming towards the end of the year they might think let's get this over with and support
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mrs may. so huge pressure now to try and get some kind of breakthrough in the next couple of days. this morning, cabinet ministers were giving nothing away. the important thing is there are two checks on this deal, the cabinet and parliament. so cabinet job this deal, the cabinet and parliament. so cabinetjob is to put something in parliament that will deliver on the referendum result. we need to work together as a cabinet to do that and i will be supporting the prime minister. the prime minister is shown to get the best deal for britain and our negotiating team out in brussels and i wish them good luck. are you confident theresa may's agreement will be signed off by ministers? i'm not leaving behind my t. just as well dominic raab
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remember his tea or it could be a bit messy. you sense that everyone now is just waiting and watching to see whether ollie robins who is negotiating over the weekend to get some kind of breakthrough on this critical issue of the so—called northern ireland backstop. and this morning kia starmerfor labour coming out and saying actually brexit can be stopped afterjeremy corbyn said it couldn't. jeremy corbyn said it couldn't. jeremy corbyn caused a lot of unhappiness in labour ranks over his suggestion through a german newspaper that brexit cannot be stopped. a view he again reiterated in an interview over the weekend. but this morning a very different message from the shadow brexit secretary. yes, technically it can be stopped. we're
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doing the best we can all the next humans andl doing the best we can all the next humans and i think that this decision will be whether parliament supports any deal the prime minister manages to bring back. on that question the labour party has said there are conditions and were not going to back about deal. if it's not a good deal we will vote it down. the next decision is should there be a general election and we say yes because negotiations were failed and if that doesn't happen then all options need to remain on then all options need to remain on the table. one option is a public vote. we had a long discussion about that in the party conference and that in the party conference and thatis that in the party conference and that is a position we all agree. so kia starmer pretty clear that brexit can be stopped. i am joined by the vice—chairman of the european research group. you clearly what brexit to happen but in your bones are you still fearful that it could be stopped? our problem is that
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checkers would not represent wreckers. —— brexit. it would leave us wreckers. —— brexit. it would leave us half in and half out. we would not have left the european union and we would have lost any influence over the laws and they cancelled governess in large areas of our lives. that is why we are so dense that. joe johnson has competed the government's negotiates strategy to suez but i prefer the analogy because it's been on tactical defeat after another. every one of which has been followed by retreat and it ends in one big surrender at the end. conservative backbenchers are not going to vote for it. the cabinet i think increasingly understand that and i am open to believe that members of the cabinet when they have to decide whether to approve this deal not well have the moral courage to vote it down. if for any reason they don't then it
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will be up to conservative backbenchers to do it for them and thatis backbenchers to do it for them and that is what we will do. what evidence is there that mrs may's cabinet are going to turn against her because they signed up to checkers, they have not been any more cabinet resignations so why should one think they will revolt against her? cabinet is quite geeky at the moment and we know from those leaks that a number of cabinet members have had the courage to ask serious questions. it's an open secret that there are five or six cabinet ministers that are very unhappy about checkers. all cabinet members are going to be judged at the bar of history by what they do over the next few weeks. for them there at the apogee of our political syste m there at the apogee of our political system and they will be judged on whether or not they have the moral
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courage to defend their country or whether being called served by civil servants is more important than the nation 's destiny. what do you mean byjudgment day, that sounds like some kind of threat? it'sjust an honest appreciation of the situation. one day many years from i'iow situation. one day many years from now people will write history about this period were going through and if when those books come to be written it is seen they were members of the cabinet who privately realised that checkers was a mistake but lacked the moral courage to say sol but lacked the moral courage to say so i think history willjudge those people harshly. thank you very much. the deal perhaps could be even more like the fall of singapore, the warning there. it's now known at least 31 people have died in california,
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in what's become one of the most destructive wildfires in the us state's history. two hundred others are still unaccounted for, and moreore than a quarter of a million others have been forced to flee their homes. the governor of california has urged president trump to declare the wildfires a major disaster, which would release federal emergency funds. earlier cbs reporter tom hanson soke to my colleague carole walker, about the scale of the destruction. basically what you are seeing is a perfect storm of conditions that make these wildfires so ferocious and lethal. historically we should be about dan way the dry season by now but californian has not seen any significant rain so you have tried landscapes that feel these fires. it ta kes landscapes that feel these fires. it takes just one tiny bit of smouldering ash to causing massive blaze. these fires are hard to predict and it makes it difficult to get out in front of the flames. that makes it very risky for first responders. at this point you have
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massive efforts to combat the fires across the state. governor brown has asked for a major disaster declaration that would give additionalfunding to declaration that would give additional funding to both first response and the residents affected. the controversial twitter president trump said that yesterday and i caught this, "there is no reason for these massive deadly costly forest fires in california except that forest management is so poor". needless to say this is an incredible —— incredibly controversial treat and it has been criticised by leading democrats including the governor of california. jerry brown in a press release yesterday said that forest management is one small element and the government must take a whole range of actions to address a problem which could cost billions of
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dollars to tackle. the flames are not well contained and you have a fire which is 10% contained and you have the campfire which are standing at about 25% contained and with stronger winds along the way it does not appear those flames are going to go away any time soon. eric bush was evacuated five days ago from the town of paradise in california where 6,700 homes and businesses have burned down. he told carole his family aren't aware yet of whether their home has survived unscathed. currently, we don't really know because we have not been able to go back. we have just seen videos and pictures but not clear evidence. i am currently staying at a friend '5 house. his father went and got
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pictures of what was of his house sadly and it's honestly a devastating event to say the least. tell us about what happened when the you were evacuated. whether staged —— at that stage were the flames approaching? i wasn't even in the town. my sister was sleeping and my dad was heading to the town because we we re dad was heading to the town because we were all in different cities because i go to school in a nearby town. we found out in the second period of school it was going ablaze. i was calling my mother and father who didn't answer. i found out it was getting scary up there andl out it was getting scary up there and i saw videos of my dad on facebook and fire everywhere and also my sister because her video got shared and you could see fire on
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both sides of the street and smoke everywhere. it was scary. it's really scary. and you are safe now i'm staying with friends but what have you heard about when you might be able to return to find out what happens to your home?” be able to return to find out what happens to your home? i haven't heard much. all i know is that the national guard is up there now and most of paradise is evacuated. i know they have been casualties and a lot of people missing but we have not heard when we can go back to see our home. two men aged 18 and 23 have been charged over a crash in sheffield on friday night which killed four people, including a one—year—old boy. adnan ashraf jarral and his son, usman, died when their people carrier collided with another vehicle, which had been pursued by police. husband and wife miroslave duna and vlasta dunova were also killed in the crash. let's get more on this
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from our correspondent danny savage, who's in leeds. bring us up to date. what have those who been charged been charged with? this goes back to friday evening fairly close to the city centre and a police pursuit was going on at the time. police vehicles were chasing a black vw golf and as it was going through sheffield it hit another vehicle which was a false wagon to run which has a seven seater vehicle and it appears all seven seats were taken in that they got the time. it was a huge impact and four of the seven people died on friday evening. there has been a full investigation since then and earlier this morning south yorkshire police announced that two people who were in that golf have now been charged and will appear today in front of magistrates in sheffield. they are 18—year—old
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elliott bauer who are striving but he will be charged with four counts of causing death by dangerous driving, three counts of serious injury by dangerous driving, handling stolen goods and possession of cannabis. another person in the vehicle, 23—year—old declan bauer, we can assume perhaps they are brothers, is charged with several other offences. those two will appear in front of magistrates in sheffield today. the enquiry into the crash continues. we know south yorkshire police have made a mandatory referral and have referred themselves to the independent office of police conduct who were well investigate the circumstances of that pursuit and how the crash happened. and to families have been devastated by what happened. three other people are seriously injured in hospital at the moment as well.
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thank you very much. the headlines on bbc news... prime minister under pressure — theresa may tries to get cabinet backing for a brexit withdrawal deal — as labour say there could be another referendum at least 31 people have died and more than 200 are missing as wildfires continue to sweep across california two men are to appear in court charged in connection with a collision in sheffield on friday which killed 4 people — including one man and his son. the dust settles after the manchester derby. jose mourinho blamed fixture schedules for their loss. roger federer has lost. world number one job job which gets loss. roger federer has lost. world number onejobjob which gets his atp finals campaign under way later. and the furious max concerns about knife crime have led
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to a call for a change in the rules governing stop and search. adrian hanstock, of the national police chiefs' council says the threshold should be lowered to when an officer is concerned that a person could be at risk — rather than " reasonable grounds to suspect someone has committed a crime". the mayor of london, sadiq khan, has said body worn cameras can help make all the difference to stop and search — but it must be combined with an increase in numbers of police on the street. i've always supported targeted stop and search. i helped found the world... it gives the police confidence and reassurance to londoners that stop and searches are being done properly. we have to wait
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and see whether the government ‘s plans are. you can give the police all sorts of powers but if there are no police officers in our communities doesn't really matter. the message to the government is this, invest in our police, invest in our city. also investing in people as well. you are not worried that in increases of stop and search will increase community tensions? any stop and search as to be lawful and has to be targeted and intelligence led. it will be the case sometimes with somebody is stopped and searched and they are not carrying anything and that's why it's important for those of stop and searches to do —— but incurred thusly. please officers should have the confidence to use targeted stop and search. the body video one protects you and londoners will know that the body on video records interaction between the police and
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the public. it's no good of a police officer today stops and searches you unlawfully or wrongly, you go back and tell your family and then tomorrow we ask you to provide intelligence to the police and they are surprised when you don't provide intelligence. let's talk more about this fellow home affairs correspondent. there were concerns previously about stop and search and it was scaled back. now there are calls for it to be scaled back up again. there has been a massive reduction in these of stop and search. they now back to 2009 and 2010 there were 1.4 million stops and searches carried out across london but police. the latest figure shows there were 282,000 to a massive reduction and over a million fewer stops and searches. this is partly because the european court of
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human rights decision about the use of anti—terrorism stops and searches which said they needed to be more closely targeted. this predominantly because theresa may which was home secretary made it clear she wanted these powers to be used much more focused and much more intelligence led. there was new guidance to that effect and that is why the police have reined back the use of those powers. also perhaps there are fewer officers now. 21,000 fewer officers than they were in 2010. we have seen over the past 12 months a slight uptick in the use of stops and searches, particularly in london. the figures asked dillner when you're on the level we saw before. how effective were they? it's very difficult to quantify that in terms
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of arrests that took place after someone was stopped and searched the figure was about one in ten to one in every ten people stopped led to someone being taken into custody. the figure now is around one in five which suggests police are now more focused on the right people. but there is another impact because it's very difficult. if young people are out on the streets, do they know they are likely to be stopped and searched and if they do think they are will that stop them taking weapons or carrying drugs in the first place. it's a very difficult effect to quantify. some research suggests that isn't much of an impact on overall levels of violent crime but the deterrent effect is marked particularly acute talk to police officers and young people on the street about how they feel about
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carrying weapons and so on. these remarks from the national police chief counsel suggests they're going to lower the grounds. that is personal view. how likely is it happen? i don't think it's likely to happen? i don't think it's likely to happen particularly not in the near future. it's not an official position and it's not something the home secretary is actively considering. he is looking at reducing the bureaucracy run stops and searches to make the powers more streamlined. lowering a threshold would be true controversial. i don't think it's going to happen, certainly not in the immediate future. an inquest into the deaths of 10 people shot dead by british soldiers 47 years ago will open later in belfast. an initial investigation into what's
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known as the ‘ballymurphy massacre' cleared the soldiers involved, and referred to the unarmed civilians who died as gunmen. families say they've fought long and hard forjustice and hope to get some form of truth. a woman has appeared in court in australia, accused of putting needles in strawberries. 50—year—old my ut trinh is a former supervisor at a fruit farm. she has been remanded in custody. since september there have been dozens of alleged incidents of sewing needles found hidden in fruit, sparking a nationwide panic. seven palestinians, including a senior hamas commander and three other hamas militants, have been killed during an israeli military operation in the gaza strip, according to palestinian officials. israel said one of its soldiers had been killed and another wounded in the operation, carried out by its special forces. the clashes took place east of khan younis, in the south of the territory. let's speak to our middle east correspondent, yolande knell, who is in jerusalem. what was this military operation
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about? we are being told it was a high security port and split very few details about what exactly they we re few details about what exactly they were gathering in terms of intelligence. it seems this group of israeli special forces were deep inside the gaza strip. they were using a civilian car. something went wrong and they were spotted by local palestinians and there was an exchange of gunfire with palestinian militants and then the israeli military spokesperson talks about venereal rescue effort having taken place. we know as well there were multiple israeli strikes in the the time as the israeli soldiers made their retreat. afterwards a number of palestinian rockets were fired into southern israel. so this was a big overnight escalation and the
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israeli prime minister who was in paris for those world war i commemorations have to fly back early and now he is going to be chairing a meeting of his security cabinet to decide what happens next. what reaction has there been? how mass inside gaza strip has talked about the seven palestinians were killed, all of them militants, as being heroes. on the israeli side the israeli military has talked about the one lieutenant colonel and who was killed as being hero. he will be buried shortly. hammers have also said this deals a blow to effo rts also said this deals a blow to efforts which are currently under way with egypt and the united nations desperately trying to broker a longer—term ceasefire deal between hammer switch runs the gaza strip and israel. to try to calm things down on the border after seven months of deadly protests. the deal
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they are edging towards is supposed to bring back calm on the border and in exchange there would be an easing of the blockade of gaza imposed by israel and egypt and an easing of the economic situation in gaza. the foreign secretary, jeremy hunt, has said he will press the saudi authorities on the murder ofjamal khashoggi, during a visit to the country today. (tx 00v) mr hunt will ask for full co—operation with the turkish investigation and is expected to say it is unacceptable that the circumstances behind mr khashoggi's death still remain unclear. the saudi journalist was murdered at the country's consulate in istanbul six weeks ago, but no one has been charged. our world affairs correspondent richard galpinjoins me now. jeremy hunt says he will be pressing the saudi authorities on this. how far is likely to get? it's obviously
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at the level of words at the moment. we understand the foreign secretary will be saying to the saudi leadership that the international community is still raged by the murder. clearly he wants to maintain pressure on the saudis to prevent this whole issue just dissipating away and being forgotten quietly. there will be some tough language and that emphasis that the saudis must follow through with the investigation and cooperate with the turkish investigation. without anything beyond words, will the saudi authorities listen?” anything beyond words, will the saudi authorities listen? i think so. not least because this is a concerted international effort. it's not just concerted international effort. it's notjustjeremy concerted international effort. it's not justjeremy hunt, without concerted international effort. it's notjustjeremy hunt, without the us secretary of state calling the de fa cto secretary of state calling the de facto leader of saudi arabia on the
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phone and having a conversation with him stressing that point, that he must follow through with the investigation and that the us will hold all those involved in the murder accountable. the pressure is piling up. we also had the turkish president saying he had handed over copies of audio tapes as part of the murder ofjamal copies of audio tapes as part of the murder of jamal khashoggi. so copies of audio tapes as part of the murder ofjamal khashoggi. so those have been handed out to various countries including britain. britain is neither confirming nor denying this policy that will also add pressure on the saudis. the prime minister has said the foreign secretary is going to be pressing saudi leaders to do more to deliver justice and accountability over the killing. we will keep you
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updated on that. now it's time for a look at the weather. we have been dodging the shower so far this morning, mainly across southern and western parts of the uk. you will continue to have to dodge the showers. some grey clouds their in the isle of wight as those showers moving. they will continue across southern coastal counties and western areas. there will be sunny spells in between. mostly dry in eastern england and the midlands. you can't rule out the odd shower but they there than in the west. the south of —— the showers will continue from the west and the south across the english channel. clear spells in between the showers and temperatures up to around 7 degrees. during tuesday we start off with a few showers but very quickly they will die away so there will be
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plenty of dry weather with sunshine as we go into tuesday afternoon. temperatures again on the mild side. hello this is bbc newsroom live. the headlines this morning: the pressure intensifies on theresa may to get cabinet backing for her eu withdrawal plans — as labour's spokesman says brexit could still be stopped, if she can't bring back a deal. if she fails in that, there really ought to be a general election. if that's not the case, then all options on the table, including a public vote. at least 31 people have died and more than 200 are missing as wildfires continue to spread across the us state of california. two men are to appear in court charged in connection with a collision in sheffield on friday which killed 4 people — including a father and his son. "motivated by spite" — the australian woman accused of starting a nationwide food scare by placing needles in strawberries. and coming up — the five minute scan that can identify risk of dementia before symptoms appear. sport now on bbc newsroom live,
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here's katherine downes. good morning. jose mourinho has blamed the fixtures schedule for united's loss to city in the manchester derby. city and now have a two point lead over liverpool at the top of the the premier league. they were 2—0 up after 50 minutes with goals from david silva and sergio aguero. anthony martial scored a penalty for united, but a superb passing move was finished of by ilkay gundogan for his side's third. well in the end it was easy for city, and just before full time raheem sterling indulged in a bit of showboating with the ball — something that didn't seem to go down well with manager pep guardiola who appeared to have some stern words with him. best way to do send —— defenders
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a lwa ys best way to do send —— defenders always keep the ball. he didn't —— we did it, so we feel we did it and with three minutes left, we controlled absolutely. it is not just the best way of defending back, because anything can happen. but he made some movement with the legs, we can avoid it and he is young, and he will improve. ina week in a week where manchester city play their home three matches and we play three matches away. in a week where they enjoyed two 6—0, 6—1victories. relaxed, no pressure, no mental effort, everything nice and easy, and we played two matches away, difficult ones, where the second one was like a final for us. against one of the best teams in europe, a game that demanded from us everything we had to give, notjust physically,
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but also mentally. celtic moved top of the scottish premiership on goal difference from hearts after a 0—0 draw away to livingston. it was a bit more lively at ibrox where rangers thumped motherwell 7—1 to go third. scott arfield and eros grezda both scored twice. rangers are just two points behind celtic. the atp finals in london continue today with world number one novak djokovic due on court. his match againstjohn isnerfollows alexander zverev against marin cilic. yesterday, kei nishikori beat roger federer — he took the first set on a tie break and claimed the second 6—3. the format is round robin, so federer, who's won the end of year tournament six times, could still reach the final. there was pushing and shoving on and off the track as lewis hamilton won the brazilian grand prix. he's already reatined his world title. max verstappen was leading and on course for a superb win until he was taken out by esteban ocon, who was well behind in the race. hamilton took full advantage to take the win and guarantee merecedes the constructors title. verstappen was obviously not best
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pleased with ocon and after the race sought out the frenchman to shove him a few times in the weighing room. as a result — he's been given two days public service by the sport's governing body. verstappen says he has no regrets. despite thrashing sri lanka in the first test last week, england still have some issues over the top of their batting order ahead of the second match on wednesday. there's still no confirmation thatjonny bairstow will be fit for selection. moeen ali failed twice at number three, and fellow batsman jos buttler says he'd be happy to bat in that position. i think the adaptability that trevor and joe talked about, being flexible with the order, it's a real strength. it has been a strength of the one—day side for a while, being able to be flexible in the order and just because it is test match cricket, i don't think there are many egos in the side that need those defined roles. of course, you
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need a good balance of being settled, but i think it shows a good tea m settled, but i think it shows a good team environment and ethic that people are willing to play wherever is required of them. that's all the sport for now. i'll have more for you in the next hour. a five—minute neck scan could help spot people at risk of dementia before symptoms appear. a group of international scientists examined blood vessels in the neck and found those with more intense pulses went on to experience greater cognitive decline. we can now talk to dr karanjutlla, dementia lead for the school of nursing and midwifery at de montfort university in leicester. welcome, thank you forjoining us. the idea is that those with more intense pulse in the vessels in their neck can end up having structural changes in the brain's blood vessel network, minor bleeds and the structure of the vessels in
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the brain can be damaged as well. is that because of basically high blood pressure? what the study is highlighting is that developing... having vascular symptoms can increase your chances of developing a cognitive decline, and the first stage before you actually have all those problems that you just highlighted is blood supply. so that could be low blood pressure, high blood pressure, anything that affects your blood supply to the brain. is this something that has been known for a long time? or is it telling us something new? absolutely, yes. we have to be very careful, we are not saying that the five minutes can will say that if you've got an intense pulse rate, you've got an intense pulse rate, you are likely to get dementia, because that might scare people. what it is saying is that you are more at risk of developing vascular
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problems, which increase your chances of developing dementia. it is highlighted that actually, vascular problems can develop, cause dementia, because of the increased cognitive decline. it is not saying you will definitely develop dementia, i think we need to be really care about that. so it is high and low blood pressure? anything that affects blood supply to the brain, which is why, if there's anything that we can take on this new study and scan is the importance of exercising, eating drinking plenty of fluids, anything to encourage the blood supply to the brain will leverage the risk factors for developing mini strokes in the brain, anything that can cause a decline in the brain's functionality. because that is essentially what dementia is and what it is caused by. i guess what people listening, everybody will
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feel some level of concern about dementia, whether it is an family members or themselves, because it is such a prevalent thing and so many of us have experienced it up close. is the message basically if you have high low blood pressure, you need to do something early to deal with it and prevent potentially dementia? couldn't prevent dementia if you address the blood pressure issues? absolutely. this study has gone one step further than that as well and said that if it is somebody who has an intense pulse rate, you are someone who potentially could develop later on, maybe blood supply issues like low or high blood pressure and you need to be someone more mindful than anyone else. but the message goes to everybody, interestingly, i know from my own research that vascular dementia is common in black and ethnic and asian minorities. it is the most common type of dementia. it is because of
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the risk factors associated with diet, hypertension, diabetes. so this is raising awareness and it has proved essentially that even if owning 50% of people, that if you have any type of blood related issue to the actual brain, you need to go the extra mile to look after yourself a bit more. alternatively, if you are someone who doesn't have blood pressure problems or might not be susceptible to them, that doesn't mean that you shouldn't maintain the healthy lifestyle anyway mean that you shouldn't maintain the healthy lifestyle a nyway a nd mean that you shouldn't maintain the healthy lifestyle anyway and that you might not develop it later in life. so it is about using this research to raise awareness about the risk factors associated with dementia and that we need to look after ourselves, physically. thank you very much. a veterinary campaign group has accused the government of telling "bare faced lies" about the effectiveness of the ongoing badger cull in southwest england. the prion interest group said that government claims of a reduced number of bovine tb cases in cattle, as a result of the cull, was "badly wrong". the department for environment, food and rural affairs said
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it is the right approach and has had a positive impact. scottish wind turbines generated the equivalent of 98 per cent of all the electricity needed in scotland last month. the most productive day was the 23rd october, when turbines created enough energy to power more than 8.5 million homes, more than three times the demand, according to analysis by wwf scotland. an investigation by the bbc‘s panorama programme has found the average rent arrears for council tenants on universal credit are 2.5 times higher than tenants who still receive the old housing benefit. the chancellor, philip hammond, announced extra money for universal credit in his budget last month, to counter warnings that moving onto the all—in—one benefit system could push people into extreme poverty. catrin nye reports: anthony smith lost his job one year ago and had to claim universal
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credit. he struggled with the online system and lost benefits from using job centre appointments. i've just explained to you... he owes £4000 in rent to the council, and is facing eviction. i've look for somewhere to live and i found a eviction. i've look for somewhere to live and ifound a bridge. the only thing i'm not playing ball with is i cannot work the computer. i'm left behind. under the old system, housing benefit was paid directly to the council, but now, it is paid direct to claimants like anthony, as pa rt direct to claimants like anthony, as part of one single benefit— universal credit. anthony is should then pay rent to the council, but he is way behind, and so are others. we had a rent arrears position last year of 1.6 million. it is now £450,000 worse than it was then, and a large proportion of that is attributable to universal credit. panorama has discovered that across the uk, council tenants on universal
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credit are falling behind with their rent. they owe on average £663, compared to 263 for those still on housing benefits. that is more than double the debt. the government has rejected calls to return to the old system of paying rent direct to councils. the key point is to make sure that people get support in terms of funding. that is why earlier this year, we introduced a package worth £1.5 million, meaning that anyone who comes on to universal credit who is receiving housing benefit will get two weeks of extra money. critics argue bigger changes are still needed. you can see the panorama investigation, the universal credit crisis, infill on bbc one tonight. the details for each region are on your screen right now. it will be available on the bbc iplayer as well. in a moment we'll have all the business news, but first the headlines on bbc news:
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prime minister under pressure — theresa may tries to get cabinet backing for a brexit withdrawal deal — as labour say there could be another referendum. at least 31 people have died and more than 200 are missing as wildfires continue to sweep across california. two men are to appear in court charged in connection with a collision in sheffield on friday which killed four people — including one man and his son. here are your business headlines: the pound has fallen amid brexit uncertainty and a stronger dollar. prime minister theresa may is struggling to broker an agreement on an exit deal from the eu with ministers. meanwhile, the dollar is up on expectations that the us federal reserve will tighten monetary policy. the euro has lost ground. firms seeking staff are being hit by labour shortages, with a "reversal" in the number of migrants in uk workplaces, according to hr body, cipd. it says there is a falling interest in the uk as a destination
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for migrant workers — as brexit approaches. spirits giant diageo has sold 19 brands to us company sazerac in a deal worth £427 million. diageo says the net proceeds of £340 million, after tax and transaction costs, will be returned to shareholders through a share buy—back programme. vegetarian to our top business stories this hour. and the pound has fallen in early trade by around 1% today amid continuing concern about the likelihood of britain leaving the european union without a deal. theresa may is struggling to get her cabinet on board the so called chequers plan, a compromise agreement on the uk's future relationship with the eu after brexit. the uncertainty comes as the dollar has strengthened — over speculation that the us federal reserve will rate interest rates in quick succession. that's also pushed down the euro. joining us now is yael selfin, chief economist at kpmg. thank you for talking to us, so, to
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what extent would you say come and visit brexit uncertainty pushing the pound down today, or is it the strength of the dollar which is the biggest story here? it is both. we are still expecting a transitional period to be agreed by the end of march. but in the meantime, all the ups and downs of the negotiations are likely to impact the pound over the coming monthss. but at the same time, there is other news, and we have seen safety as well as expectation over rise in interest rates in the uk, it is pushing the us dollar up against most major currencies. there are also some concerns in italy, also impacting the exchange rate between the pound and the euro. so let's talk about the us, do you expect to see the dollar strengthening even further? we have some key economic numbers
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out later this week, haven't we? absolutely. it is possible that we will see further strength there are, overall, the news around the us is driven by the strength of the economy at the moment and the expectation of a more hawkish side, as well as other news of uncertainty elsewhere, which makes the dollar a safe haven and pushes more funds there. you talk about a safe haven, because of concerns in italy. concerns of the euro, it is going toward the dollar inside. and the government there has said it will look at its big spending plans. absolutely. there is the potential for more news tomorrow, with the potential revised budget for italy. but we have heard other news around italy, in times of the banking sector and overall concerns of the economy there, that it is becoming weaker and it
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economy there, that it is becoming weakerand it is economy there, that it is becoming weaker and it is a economy there, that it is becoming weakerand it is a bit economy there, that it is becoming weaker and it is a bit more uncertain of how the situation in italy will evolve, which will push the euro down against other currencies as well as the pound. thank you forjoining us. saudi arabia's energy minister khalid al—falih has said that he sees the need to cut oil output by one million barrels per day from its october production levels. saudi arabia is the largest member of the opec cartel of middle east and african oil producers. brenchmarks brent crude and the west texas intermediate have risen on the news. cost—conscious diners seem to have hit profits at the company which owns the zizzi and ask restaurant chains. azzurri group said sales rose 8.5% to £279.8 million in the year tojuly. however, underlying profit was flat at £37 million and margins fell from 14.5% to 13.2%. azzurri chief executive steve holmes told the press association that it had been "a very challenging year from a cost perspective". british american tobacco's share price have fallen by more
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than 11% following a report in the wall streetjournal which said that the us food and drug administration wants to ban menthol cigarettes. bat owns newport, which is the biggest methol cigarette brand in the us. lets take a look at the financal markets now first the price of oil — brent crude is now up a barrel after saudi arabia, the leading member of the opec oil producing cartel, said it will cut output. that's pushed up the share price of major energy companies — like shell. and here's the share price of bat after that report in the wall street journal that the fda might ban menthol cigarettes. it has gained a little bit of ground back, now at 9%. the food and drug medication might consider banning menthol cigarettes. we will keep you up—to—date. telling white lies about your
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age is not an uncommon practise on dating websites but one man from holland is taking his search for romance a little further. emile ratelband — who's a motivational speaker by day, is trying to legally change his age from 69 to 49 with the aim of boosting his online dating prospects. he's attempting to move his birthday from 11 march 1949 to 11 march 1969. earlier he spoke to victoria derbyshire. my doctor says i have a biological age of 42, so he has put it on paper. isaid, 0k, age of 42, so he has put it on paper. i said, ok, why am i not that age? sol paper. i said, ok, why am i not that age? so i want to be that age, 49, i wa nt age? so i want to be that age, 49, i want to be 49. what can't you do at 69 that you can do a 49? we have high unemployment in holland, all those people who are unemployed are above 55. so when you are above 55, you cannot get a job. but you are
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not an applied? of course not. so that's not the reason? if i want to buy a house, i can't get a mortgage and more. have you got a mortgage now? i have a mortgage, but ifi wa nt now? i have a mortgage, but ifi want to change house, it isn't possible, because i am too old. so in myjob, many people ask me who are over70, can in myjob, many people ask me who are over 70, can easily be landward of over 25 ayes can you understand the problems? i said i am not an old man, i the problems? i said i am not an old man, lam the problems? i said i am not an old man, i am a wise man. but i always had to defend myself and lie about my age. i don't want to do that, so i wanted to legalise. why'd you have to lie about your age? people say they don't believe what isaac, —— isa. they say i look younger than i am, buti isa. they say i look younger than i am, but i have to lie to them. you have compared this to transgender people, why? we can travel wherever we can change our our names and we can also change our gender. so why
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can also change our gender. so why cani can also change our gender. so why can i not change my age? lizzie have a point? i am flabbergasted. i started thinking i would be sympathetic, but i am not sympathetic. i thought we were talking about discolouration here. agesin talking about discolouration here. ages in relation? yes, and perhaps in holland, you have less robust laws will stop what you have a job. it comes back to using it is a choice. it is not rejoice, you're talking about something that is physiological, it is well recognised. some people would love... i don't agree. some people would love to retire early.|j love... i don't agree. some people would love to retire early. i went toa would love to retire early. i went to a shrink and he said i might suffer from peter pan, axel tapia examined me and said, you don't have the peter pan complex. that means that you cannot accept your getting older. so he said i might have another complex, are you aware of what is going to happen to you? so
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he examined me again and said, you are he examined me again and said, you a re fully he examined me again and said, you are fully aware of what you are doing. so it is my feeling, it is your feeling when you are a man, you had the feeling you wanted to be a woman. had the feeling you wanted to be a woman. it's ok. and i have the feeling i want to be younger, it is my feeling. i respect you, you respect me. that is the man who wa nts to respect me. that is the man who wants to reduce his age 69 to 49. let's bring you news we are getting from the metropolitan police about the investigation that has been under way since the end of last month, at a property in the west midlands, as part of the investigation to the disappearance of susie. police were digging at a property and they saved their search is over and unfortunately, no evidence was recovered. the family of suzy have been informed of that outcome, so officers are now in the process of leaving leading property. from the people's procession to the faces of the fallen etched in the sand, yesterday we saw some spectacular armistice
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commemorations. our reporterjayne mccubbin has been taking a look at how the nation remembered the centenary of the end of the first world war. they lit beacons to symbolise an end to the darkness of war, to remember the moment the bullets stopped, to remember those who had fallen, and those who had brought their stories home. they said the war is over. i said, he's gone mad. they said, listen, it's saying the war finishes this morning. the war is over — we just couldn't believe it. it was so unreal. and we very soon found ourselves picking our way over the bodies of men who'd fallen in the early attacks that morning. yes, it was a dreadful experience, there's no doubt about that.
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still, those of us who survived think ourselves jolly lucky. corporal edward glendinning and the other great war veterans have long gone, but their photographs were held with pride as relatives marched past the cenotaph in a people's parade. these are my grandfather's medals and my great uncle's. this is for my grandfather and this is for my uncle. very emotional marching along and thinking about them, and thinking about everybody else. what a privilege, a real honour. so yeah, proud to have been here on this day, it was great. in cirencester, more than 3,000 people formed this human poppy to give thanks. around five million left these shores to fight. close to 900,000 never returned. some of the faces of those fallen were etched into the sand.
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in folkestone, war poet wilfred owen, killed days before armistice. his mother received news the very day the guns stopped. in northern ireland, john mccance, a rifleman with no known grave. in ayr, walter tull, the first black officer in the british army. in colwyn bay, hedd wyn, a welsh poet killed on the first day of the battle of passchendaele. "hedd wyn" means "blessed peace." the tide eventually took away the faces, but not the memories, as the nation once again promised to never forget. now it's time for a look at the weather with simon king. thank you very much. we have had a
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mixture so far today as sunny spells and showers. most of the showers have been across southern and western parts, but you may have been dodging the showers. if you have one coming through, it might take a while before the sun comes back out again. this is the radar imagery, you can see we have had the showers across the south—east, southern coastal counties and up through northern and western parts. through central and eastern areas, it has been mostly dry. you could catch the odd shower across the east as we go through into the afternoon. the majority of the showers will be across the south coast, through south—west england and up through western areas. with the showers, it'll be quite blustery. the wind is coming from a southpaw southwesterly direction. it is quite strong around the irish sea coasts. frequent showers coming in to north—west england and across scotland. as i mentioned, in the north—east of scotland, there might be the odd
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shower this afternoon, it will be a little bit drier. temperature wise, 11-14 little bit drier. temperature wise, 11—14 degrees. that is the above the average for this time of year. overnight tonight, more showers piling in to the west and south—west, there will be some clear spells in between the showers. temperature is getting down to a roundabout 6—8 degrees, so another frost free night. vintages, we will see quite a few showers, that quickly, the showers will die away, so as we go into lunchtime and the afternoon, it is looking mostly dry. lots of sunshine throughout the afternoon. the club will thicken up throughout northern ireland and the west of scotland. some rain will start to move in here. temperature is on the mild side, 11 — 15 degrees. on wednesday, the cloud will thicken up across northern ireland and scotland, some rain moving in here. some showers affecting western parts of england
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and wales. again, we have got the orange and yellow colours on the map, indicative of temperatures around about the mid teens, perhaps as high as 16, maybe 17 degrees in some areas. high pressure towards the east, and with that area towards the east, and with that area towards the east, and with that area towards the east, it draws in this south or south—westerly wind. as we go through to the end of the week, we keep the milder conditions, it is mostly settled with the area of high pressure. but with lighter wind and more moisture, there is the risk of some fog. stay tuned to the forecast, bye—bye. you're watching bbc newsroom live. these are today's main stories: mounting pressure on theresa may to get backing for her brexit plans. opponents sayjudgement day is coming for the cabinet all cabinet members are going to be
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judged at the bar of history by what they do over the next few weeks. for them they are at the apogee of our political system, judgment day is coming. labour's spokesman says brexit could be stopped if the prime minister fails to agree a deal if she fails there oughta be a general election. all options are on the table including the public vote. at least 31 people have died and more than 200 are missing as wildfires continue to spread across the us state of california. a senior police officer calls for changes to stop and search rules, saying they're too restrictive to tackle knife crime. "motivated by spite". the australian woman accused of starting a nationwide food scare by placing needles in strawberries. a bbc investigation to expose ‘fake news‘ uncovers disinformation by russia claiming that the us army has been experimenting on humans at a secret laboratory in georgia. good morning.
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welcome to bbc newsroom live. our main story is the intense pressure on the prime minister to come forward with a brexit withdrawal deal within days. this morning labour confirmed it could seek to block brexit by holding another referendum. shadow brexit secretary, sir keir starmer, said the party would push for a general election if parliament rejected a brexit deal, but if that failed, another vote would be on the table. theresa may's approach is also being criticised by both wings of her own party, with the former foreign secretary, borisjohnson, urging the cabinet to "mutiny" against her plans. (00v) (00v) the bbc has been told that several members of the cabinet expressed significant doubts from the start about theresa may's chequers brexit plan. ministers described the proposal, which involves maintaining close ties with the eu, as "worrying", "disappointing" and "
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let's go live to westminster and our assistant political editor, norman smith. so many lines to talk about this morning as we get ever closer to a deadline. there is a sense that everything is now moving towards that pivotal moment. in the past hour the vice—chairman of the european research group says cabinet members faced judgment day if they back the prime minister over checkers. government sources are saying the next 48 hours could be critical if there is to be a breakthrough in the negotiations. they argue if there is no breakthrough today or tomorrow that means there is not likely to be an eu summit this month to sign of a deal which means serious preparations and serious money will have to going to now deal, which
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will increase the momentum towards that outcome. it has been suggested they would not be enough time to get they would not be enough time to get the crucial brexit legislation through parliament if it wasn't agreed this month and it is a view that downing street want mps to have their crucial commons vote before christmas in the hope they will be in end of year feeling and christmas in the hope they will be in end of yearfeeling and mps christmas in the hope they will be in end of year feeling and mps will just want to get it over with and will back the prime minister. critical in all that is how the cabinet respond to any deal. this morning we heard from penny mordaunt, who in the past has not been willing to publicly speak out in favour of checkers. she was signalling the cabinet could yet provide a check on any deal. the important thing is they are two checks on this deal. the cabinet and parliament. so cabinet's job checks on this deal. the cabinet and parliament. so cabinet'sjob is to
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put something to parliament that is going to deliver on the referendum result. we need to work together as a cabinet to do that and i will be supporting the prime minister to get a good deal for this country. at the same time we've heard from one of the key figures in the european research group, the group of hardline yougov sceptics saying the state of the negotiations are not compatible to suez but actually it's more like the fall of singapore to the japanese. and also i thought striking a threatening note towards cabinet ministers suggesting that judgment day was coming if they chose to back mrs mail the brexit. it's an open secret there are 56 cabinet ministers who are very unhappy with checkers. what they do will be up to them but all cabinet members are going to be judged at
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the bar of history by what they do over the next few weeks. for them, they are at the apogee of our medical system and judgment day is coming and they will be judged on whether or not they have the moral courage to defend their country or whether a red box and being called sir by civil servants is more important than the nation's destiny. strong words there. i am joined by phillip lee who was the first minister to resign from the remain side. let'sjust start minister to resign from the remain side. let's just start with that comment, that cabinet ministers who back mrs mail the brexit could be facing judgment day. back mrs mail the brexit could be facing judgment daylj back mrs mail the brexit could be facing judgment day. i think he is trying to apply pressure for his side of the argument and i understand that and joe johnson's resignation was from the other side so this is not what the public vote is for. we will end up here with collea g u es is for. we will end up here with colleagues at going to have to
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realise they will have to make difficult decisions over the next few weeks and ultimately they need to ask themselves and examining their own consciences and say i'm going to be complicit in delivering something which is consistent with what the public wanted and what the public were sold in 2016? i don't think the government will be consistent with 2016 so that is why we need a second referendum. clearly we need a second referendum. clearly we haven't got a deal but do you think opposition to mrs may is hardening or softening?” think opposition to mrs may is hardening or softening? i suspect it is hardening. it's an unholy alliance of people who are saying this arrangement, i refuse to call ita this arrangement, i refuse to call it a deal, this arrangement will not please either side which is why think we need to involve the public
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in this. if this arrangement falls or is blocked by parliament, can this is may survive? yes and i don't see this as a judgment on her position. but what i do see is the most important question facing parliament since the war and i think her colleagues need to vote in a way thatis her colleagues need to vote in a way that is consistent with their own judgment and conscience on this issue. we saw the shadow brexit secretary saying this morning brexit can be stopped. do you agree? in theory he is right. if that is a second vote on this, remain will be on the ballot and if the public vote for it to brexit will be stopped. my point all along since i resigned as exactly the same pointjoe has made recently is that we need the consent of the public for this form of brexit and if the public consent to
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that then we brexit. if they don't we remain. you mentioned joe johnson who resigned on thursday, how serious do think you take the warnings if there are a number of other like—minded ministers who are poised to quit if this is a —— mrs may strikes a deal. i think there will be others. let's wait and see. each individual minister has two consider their position. but yes i do expect there to be more resignations. is there anyway mrs may will get a deal through parliament because if there are sufficient number of labour mps who think it keeps us close to your bank will go with it, she might be able to get it through. if the labour party stays true and if each colleague stays true to all of the
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public statements and the positions they have taken this deal with not pass. they go she asians in brussels last night we are told to not end until 245 in the morning which gives you a sense of how desperately the negotiators are trying to get some sort of common ground over this issue of the northern ireland backstop. so far, despite that meeting, no sign of a breakthrough yet. gordon brown will be giving a talk at 12:15pm in central london and we will have coverage on the bbc news channel. it's now known at least 31 people have died in california, in what's become the most destructive wildfires
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in the us state's history. two hundred others are still unaccounted for, and more than a quarter of a million residents have been forced to flee their homes. the governor of california has urged president trump to declare the wildfires a major disaster, which would release federal emergency funds. earlier cbs reporter tom hanson gave this update. basically what you are seeing is a perfect storm of conditions that make these wildfires so ferocious and lethal. historically we should be about through the dry season by now but california has not seen any significant rain so you have dry landscapes that fuel these fires. it takes just one tiny bit of smouldering ash to cause a massive blaze. these fires are hard to predict and it makes it difficult to get out in front of the flames. that makes it very risky forfirst responders. at this point you have massive efforts to combat the fires across the state. governor brown has asked for a major disaster declaration that would give additional funding to both first response and the residents affected. the controversial tweet
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president trump sent out yesterday and i quote this, "there is no reason for these massive, deadly, costly, forest fires in california except that forest management is so poor". needless to say this is an incredibly controversial tweet and it has been criticised by leading democrats including the governor of california. jerry brown in a press release yesterday said that forest eric bush was evacuated five days ago from the town of paradise in california where many of those who've lost their lives in the wildfires were killed.
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earlier he told us his family aren't aware yet of whether their home is among the thousands that have been destroyed. currently, we don't really know because we have not been able to go back. we have just seen videos and pictures but not clear evidence. i am currently staying at a friend's house. his father went and got pictures of what was left of his house, sadly, and it's honestly a devastating event to say the least. i wasn't even in the town. my sister was sleeping and my dad was heading to the town because we were all in different cities because i go to school in a nearby town. we found out in the second period of school it was going ablaze. i was calling my mother and father, who didn't answer. i found out it was getting scary up there and i saw videos of my dad on facebook and fire everywhere and also my sister because her video got shared and you could see fire
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on both sides of the street and smoke everywhere. it was scary. it's really scary. i haven't heard much. all i know is that the national guard is up there now and most of paradise is evacuated. i know there have been casualties and a lot of people missing but we have not heard when we can go back to see our home. time now to say goodbye to viewers on bbc two. two men aged 18 and 23 have been charged over a crash
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in sheffield on friday night which killed four people, including a one—year—old boy. adnan ashraf jarral and his son, usman, died when their people carrier collided with another vehicle on friday evening, which had been pursued by police. a married couple were also killed in the crash. our correspondent in leeds, danny savage, has more on what happened. a police vehicle was chasing a black vw golf and as it was going through sheffield it hit another vehicle which was a volkswagen turan. that isa which was a volkswagen turan. that is a seven seater vehicle and all seven seats were taken in that vehicle at the time. there was a huge impact on four of the seven people died on friday evening. there has been a full investigation since then and earlier this morning south yorkshire police announced to people who are in that golf have now been charged and will appear today in front of magistrates in sheffield.
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they are 18—year—old elliott bauer who was the driver. he will appear in court charged with four counts of causing death by dangerous driving, three counts of serious injury by dangerous driving, handling stolen goods and possession of cannabis. another person in the vehicle, 23—year—old declan bauer of the same address, so we can assume they are brothers, is charged with aggravated vehicle taking and several other offences. those two will appear in front of magistrates in sheffield today. the enquiry into the crash continues. south yorkshire police have made a mandatory referral and have made a mandatory referral and have referred themselves to the independent office for police conduct who will investigate the circumstance of that pursuit. and of course to families are completely devastated by what happened. three other people are seriously injured in hospital at the moment as well. so for people dead and three seriously injured as a result of
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this terrible accident on friday just before 9pm in sheffield. the headlines on bbc news: we're going to leave the headlines because the former prime minister speaking about brexit in london right now. i want to talk about something that is putting this debate in what i think is the proper context. we've had a weekend where we have been discussing whether we will be a rule
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ta ke discussing whether we will be a rule take oral maker and if the temporary deal that is signed is eventually passed by the house of commons and agreed by the eu. but i want to suggest that whatever the deal, whatever the deal now is, and whether that is a deal not, the long—term questions are resolved. just think of it this way, over the last two years we've had a series of negotiations, over the next few yea rs negotiations, over the next few years lie a further series of negotiations on the eventual deal between the eu and the uk. but as we stand and in a deal that is published what our relationship is to the single market is resolved, what our relationship is to the customs union is unresolved. whether we're going to go the way of norway or canada is unresolved. whether we have the power to sign free—trade
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deals without conditions is unresolved. the future of northern ireland is unresolved. after two yea rs of ireland is unresolved. after two years of negotiations and after all the publicity none of the major issues are resolved. we have got at best coming away a short—term temporary fix in the absence of having a long—term end point. a resting place, whatever you call it. we have a short—term fix coming our way if we have a deal in the absence ofa way if we have a deal in the absence of a long—term end point that is agreed. we have a short—term fix ahead of us because the cabinet and the government cannot agree what they long—term destination is. it's probably worse than that because the selling point of the short—term fix is that it is agreed and published
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and debated in the house of commons will be for the hard brexit here's but still open to them is the option of going the way of a hard brexit, the way of canada and that will be one of the selling points the prime minister will use to try and get the deal through. normally in a negotiation you start by having a long—term objective and then you see how you get to it. the british public would be shocked and will be in the next few weeks when they find that after two years of negotiation we have yea rs that after two years of negotiation we have years ahead of negotiation, we have years ahead of negotiation, we have years ahead of negotiation, we have no agreement on the long—term objectives were trying to reach and indeed there is no possibility of this government getting a consensus in its present form on these long—term objectives. if you think of it this way the decision has been made not to have a decision. the decision is
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indecision. what churchill said about his party in the 1930s that they were resolved to be resolute and solid for fluidity and all that impotence is coming home to us today. no long—term plan to be announced. everything still open evenif announced. everything still open even if we have a deal. what we're finding also is that the process itself is defective. the process as we can see now over these last few yea rs has we can see now over these last few years has been inward looking, it has been non—inclusive. it has been partisan because it been truer than by internal party considerations and it's been piecemeal because many of the long—term issues have not been addressed. think of it this way, if you cannot have an agreement from long—term objective, then you cannot a nswer long—term objective, then you cannot
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answer the questions about what our long—term economic future is likely to be, what the investment decisions companies are going to make, up to that risk the future of the union because many issues relating to scotla nd because many issues relating to scotland and the uk and wales and the uk as well as northern ireland and the uk are resolved. our role in the world is undecided because we cannot say where we will be in relation to the european union in yea rs relation to the european union in years to come and of course as we found in the brexit, many of the problems railed by brexit cannot be solved by brexit because they are related to the social fabric of the uk. but what the debate has shown is we used to say that short his —— short—term is and was the devil of british industry and we mismanaged decline in the 70s and you can think
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of this debate which is the ultimate inshore termism because we made a decision to have a referendum without publishing sufficient information about the consequences ofa information about the consequences of a brexit. we then saw the government rushing to article 50 and decide they would have a date for withdrawal before they had a plan for doing it. we then found a few weeks ago we had no deal preparations hardly ever being undertaken and so we've had failed at inshore termism in this to date and i've looked back at two incidences where we have proven that we can do things a different way. the macmillan government in the 19505, if the macmillan government in the 1950s, if you look at two major documents that were commissioned by harold macmillan after he became prime minister in 1957 on the future of britain, the documents which led him to advocate that we join the european union these are serious
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documents that luck at the geopolitical economic and industrial and financial indications, a serious document looking at what the future of britain would be and all sorts of different scenarios. then when it came to the euro, we had 23 separate investigations into all aspects of the euro and what it would mean and diesel hundreds of thousands of words that were published in a transparent way with widespread consultation which led to the decision but a process that was in death in a way we have not seen on a far bigger issue. now we are debating the whole of our relationship with europe. so there you have this problem that it's not just a problem with the decision
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itself, that is a problem with the process. this process goes on several years more. even if there is a deal in the next few weeks and we leave in march and it all goes to the plan the prime minister would like to adopt, she has at least two more yea rs like to adopt, she has at least two more years of negotiation on almost exactly the same issues and the public will be exposed to the same process of inward looking decision—making to have an bipartisan considerations, not inclusive, not open, not allowing the public away in that might satisfy the grievances that in some respect brought about brexit in the first place. there is a westminster bubble, they have... when einstein
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said his definition of insanity was to do the same thing all over again and expect different result, that is the prospect we are looking forward to another two years of negotiations and the government expecting something may change but the most likely thing is we will be sitting here two years from now looking at exactly the same problems and resolved. before i make my proposals, if nothing changes we will be an even more divided britain. more divided than during the three—day week of the 70s, more divided than the poll tax disagreements of the early 90s, more divided than over the iraq war. think of the cornwall agitation and
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the irish question in the 1880s and you think back to these major internal political agreements but also to these massive disagreements within the country in the last 30 yea rs within the country in the last 30 years and i don't think we are as divided then as we are likely to be now. the effect on the cohesion of our country and the corrosion of trust in our democracy would be absolutely mind blowing. if you think of the loss of trust in politics over the last few years 20% didn't trust the government and the loss of faith in politicians and then you think of the consequences ofa then you think of the consequences of a long—term breakdown of trust, what you see in other countries, allegations on all sides, that becomes the language of politics and
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remain as to why young same old people have let them down by mortgaging the future. remain as say the campaign was conducted in a fraudulent way which has been proven by the electoral commission. believers say they were promised all these things would happen the day after brexit, they would be better off and the nhs would have more money. it would be an easy brexit and could happen overnight. and most of all brexit years thinking we voted because we wanted to be listened to, we thought we were striking a blow for a more open discussion about what is happening and now we find we are not been listened to. so the betrayal that people feel is a corrosive our democracy and trust in politics and if you just think forward a year
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from now the same debates going on and the same issues being brought out because these are the questions that remain unresolved. so we have context now where we don't have agreement on a long—term destination, where we have a breakdown in trust and division within the electorate, allegations of trail created toxic atmosphere in politics and that is fertile ground for those kind of politicians who don't offer solutions positives but who's stock in trade is simply to articulate anger on behalf of people without giving any positive way forward. so unless something changes
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i believe we are in for a difficult period ahead and i want to suggest how we might do something about it. our challenge is to reunite a divided country. our challenge is to see if there is a way to end the deadlock. my sense is that the challenge of reuniting a divided country and given that we have so many years ahead of us is we have to break out of the westminster bubble, we have to start listening to the people of this country on issues that concern them and we have got to find a way of doing so. so think forward the next few weeks, i am clear it would be a travesty of democracy if there was not an open debate in the house of commons on the deal. i know the procedure of the deal. i know the procedure of the house of commons will recommend three options for the debate. the meaningful vote, one of the mr
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holder vote on the governments proposals first in which case almost every other potential amendment falls. surely we have got to argue that the correct way in an open democracy trying to connect with people is to allow all these to be heard and to have amendments first before you have the conclusive vote. one of these amendments must be the opportunity to renegotiate the deal the government has done if people find itan the government has done if people find it an satisfactory. that is no reason in my mind and i am used to european negotiations and used to negotiations with the ulster unionists, there is no reason why you can't go back to brussels in my view and say this deal is not the one we want, this is another deal. it is not no deal versus another deal, it seems it is possible to go
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back and renegotiate. i have always said that i think there will be a second referendum. i believe that in the end, the situation will have been seen seem to have been changed, and that the people should have the final say in the end. but i also believe that we have got to find a far better way of listening and hearing the voices of people. so i wa nt to hearing the voices of people. so i want to suggest that we have a new kind of royal commission. a royal commission of a very different type from the usual greater good sitting there pontificating, as you might say, as harold wilson said, taking minutes and spending years, we need a new commission, one which is a commission that is charged with hearing the voices of the british people, going out into the regions and the nations of the united kingdom, raising with people and deliberative hearings and
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consultative exercises the questions they have about migration, sovereignty, about the long—term economic future of the country, seeing, i suppose i'm saying, if we can find seeing, i suppose i'm saying, if we canfind a seeing, i suppose i'm saying, if we can find a way that a consensus as possible on a key set of this use that appear to divide people fundamentally at the moment, but in my view are capable of being resolved if we have an honest and phil and competence of debate on these issues. the aim of such an exercise, because we have these yea rs exercise, because we have these years ahead of us, is not to think short time that we need a six we will have to have a fixed tomorrow, it is to say, how can we engage the country a dialogue and conversation about the key issues that matter, listen to the voices that are coming from both sides of the industry, i do not think the government has been a slinky even side of industry in the way that it should, but also the voices of the regions and the nations. what then are the long term this use that have got to be resolved and have got to be part of
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this debate? i think on the table, it has to be our long—term economic future. i don't think, in a strange way, that despite two years of negotiations and debate, it has been on the table. take the car industry as one example. it is true that if there are tariffs and customs duties, then the car industry faces an enormous problem, a 10% tariff, selling exports, 4.5% with imports, 4.5 billion cars. it is also true that if you have no customs union, you have the friction when parts and components are going back and forward. the many crankshaft alone goes back and forward four times before it is sold on to someone in continental europe. so you have the problem of friction. but you have an even bigger problem, which symbolises the problem that we have to address about our long—term
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economic future, which doesn't seem to be as part of the debate as it should be. we produce 1.7 million ca rs should be. we produce 1.7 million cars a year, 1.3 million of them are exported. the actually exported 1.6 million engines. 80% of our cars and more of our engines are actually exported from britain. the car industry in britain, which was built up industry in britain, which was built up in the last 30 or 40 years, depends on an export trade that is 80% of what it produces. the whole market does not cover the production of the car industry. but every car company in britain at the moment is making a decision very soon about the long—term investment. they are moving from diesel to non—diesel cars, of course, but they are also moving into electric cars and they are also moving into driverless ca rs. are also moving into driverless cars. that new technology dominates the investment decisions that these car companies are going to make, and they have a choice. if they are exporting to mainland europe and 80%
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of their cars are exported, more than half of them to the eu countries itself, then they are faced with a choice, do they build their cars and engines in mainland europe where the market fundamentally is biggest? or do they make the decision in britain? these long—term investment decisions have got to be made in the context of what will happen to the british economy, what is our relationship long—term going to be with europe? what is it going to be to the customs union and single market, none of these issues are resolved at the moment. we have to debate these. trade, everybody knows that trade with china and india and australia, new zealand, america... it is important. but when you look at the figures, 1% of our trade is with india, 1% with sub—saharan africa, 196 india, 1% with sub—saharan africa, 1% with australia, less than 1% with new zealand, one present with canada. for 5% with china, the vast majority of our trade is with
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mainland europe. the people will understand if we put the question that there are answers that we have to find. another example, the european investment bank invests 10 million in britain. since 2010. that isa million in britain. since 2010. that is a european investment bank run by the countries of the eu, infrastructure investment in britain has depended on that for the last 20 or 30 years. britain is a shareholder, to leave the eu in march, we have to leave the european investment bank full stop we have no other arrangement been proposed yet, but we will be forced out of the european investment bank, they will not accept us, but we should be thinking about a partnership with the european investment bank if we leave, or certainly what we do on these big issues. so our economic future, and i give any these three samples, has got to be part of this debate. the future of our union has got to be part of this debate. there are two major problems that arise andi are two major problems that arise and i don't think it is properly appreciated in london from the devolution settlement and what happens if we leave the eu. the
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first is that because of the devolution settlement which said that all power are transferred to scotla nd that all power are transferred to scotland and wales, unless specifically not transferred, then they should have been an automatic tra nsfer of they should have been an automatic transfer of powers over agriculture and fisheries, regional policies, some aspects in other areas, from brussels, through london, but to edinburgh, to belfast and to cardiff. but the government decided, in their wisdom, that they would hold these powers in westminster for seven yea rs, hold these powers in westminster for seven years, or up to seven years, and they decided to defy the devolution settlement by saying that aspect of the uk single market overrode that, despite the fact that the legislation previously has said otherwise. that is an issue that is unresolved. but an assault also from scotland, wales, northern ireland and for the regions, is access to europe, access to markets. so we leave the eu in 2014 referendum,
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what we said was that scotland should stay part of the uk and this isa should stay part of the uk and this is a very strong argument, because our influence in the world depends on the combined weight of scotland, wales, northern ireland and england in international councils through the uk being a powerfulforce in the g-7, the 620, the the uk being a powerfulforce in the g—7, the g20, the united nations and nato and everything else. but of course, what scottish nationalists are saying is that they were promised that there would be access to europe and that while our international efforts through the united kingdom were always part of the eu as well. nobody has come up with a way, although i think there isa with a way, although i think there is a way and i can suggest it, of allowing this question to be solved. if you promise you will access through the uk to the international community and then you cut yourself off from the eu against the will of the scottish people in particular, i'm talking about here, what do you then do about it? but it raises fundamental questions about the
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future of the union, which are a risk to the union and will become clear over the next two years as the debate goes on and on. the third issue that we have got to be clear about— our influence in the world. since churchill, we have talked about three concentric circles of influence. so that britain has gotten through it in the world through our relationship with the commonwealth, our relationship with america, our relationship with europe. the european union of course was the later relationship that was formulated in the 60s and 70s, we finally joined formulated in the 60s and 70s, we finallyjoined in 75. the point of three circles of influence, these concentric circles, was that the more influence we had in europe, the more influence we had in europe, the more influence we would have in washington, the more influence we had in washington, the more we would have in brussels and berlin and paris. part of that equation is no longer true. because if we were to
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leave the european union, then we lose influence in europe and we have asked, what does that mean for our role in the world? and what debate is taking place on that at the moment that can solve some of these problems? i, for one, think that we should be thinking of the fourth concentric circle of influence, that is our role in international institutions. britain had influence in the united nations more than it has the moment, and we have always been afraid of the un as a colonial power, because they could tell us what to do about the remaining dependent territories and colonies, if we had more influence in the world bank and monetary fund, that would make a difference. but no government paper, no recommendation, nothing has come that suggests there is any thinking going on about this. finally, long—term issue, the health of the social issues. we know that the reasons many people voted for brexit was nothing to do with brexit
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itself, it was the frustration at the way economic changes hitting their communities, hitting the industrial towns, the manufacturing centres, the regions that we know are incredibly important to the future of our country, particularly of manufacturing. and the discontent that people felt was reflected in wanting to be listened to in one way and this was the chance for people to wa nt and this was the chance for people to want to listen. but the social fabric in our country is breaking down. it was based on four pillows, one that if you worked hard, you would get a decent wage. the second that there was a ladder of opportunity and therefore upward mobility for the people who strove and had ambition. thirdly, top pay was related to merit and effort and contributing to the community. fourthly, there was a minimum below which people should neverfall, both in the provision of public services and in terms of income. all four of these pillars are breaking apart. wages are not big enough for millions of people to escape
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poverty, and there are now 4 million, rising to 5 million, children in poverty, mainly in working cameras. operability. .. the former prime minister, gordon brown, speaking in london on his concerns about what is happening with the brexit debate and where he thinks things need to go going forward. in terms of its concerns looking backwards, he said that the debate has been the ultimate short—term debate. the country has rushed into a decision, rushed in to article 50 data for original, before a clear plan was made. he says it is all about short—term temporary fixes and there is no agreement on what the long—term destination is. he co m pa res long—term destination is. he compares the situation with future relationship with the eu over what happened when consideration was given tojoining the happened when consideration was given to joining the euro. happened when consideration was given tojoining the euro. he happened when consideration was given to joining the euro. he spoke them about 23 separate investigations which were carried out then into what publicly. it was a process of in depth says decision, and that has not been the case he
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was saying with the eu relationship. he stuck his fears of what it is doing to trust in a democracy. he said the long—term impact of this could be mind blowing. his solution is what he would describe as a new kind of royal commission. he said it would not be about the great and good, taking minutes and spending yea rs. good, taking minutes and spending years. effectively, putting forward the idea... pontificating will be future should be. he wasn't to be about the people being able to be empowered and engaged on the way ahead. he wasn't clear on how he would envisage that working, how long it would take, but he was saying that even if a deal was agreed before the end of this year, which would lead to britain leaving the eu in march, there are still several years the eu in march, there are still several yea rs of the eu in march, there are still several years of negotiations going forward with no clear destination. that is what concerns him. do let us
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know your thoughts on what gordon brown was saying. 61,124 is the numberfor text, brown was saying. 61,124 is the number for text, and we will give you a reaction on his speech later. other breaking news today, the couple who named their baby after adolf hitler had been found guilty of being members of a banned terrorist group. adam thomas and claudia, from banbury, along with another man from leicester, were charged with being a national action. bring a —— birmingham crown court heard they gave him the middle name of adult inclination of the nazi leader. they also had a document with terrorist information, a bomb—making annual. national action was founded in 2013 and it was forbidden under anti—terrorism laws after it so limited the murder of the labourmp,jo laws after it so limited the murder of the labour mp, jo cox. if it couldn't national action demo
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before it was found after celebrating the murder of labour mp, jo cox. on the left, enthusiastically giving the nazi salute was national action's main organiser in the midlands — alex deacon. open about his nazi views, he would recruit in universities and even targeted schoolchildren. but after a national action was banned, he took his members underground, borrowing tactics from so—called islamic state, he communicated using unencrypted chat group called the triple k mafia, named after the ku klux klan. they are learning from other terrorist organisations how to camino kit, how deradicalise, how recruit individuals, how to gather weapons and agreement. their mission hasn't changed, they are seeking violent extremism, they are seeking to wage to war on the streets of the
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united kingdom. some are perhaps the most dangerous recruit to deacon's group was this man. a serving lance corporal in the british honour. he wrote about crating civil disorder and attacking national info structure, he commuted a personal arsenal of guns, crossbows and knives. he had a dummy in his garage which he used to practice starving and a collection of nazi themed weapons and badges. he had access to young soldiers in his regiment and recruited at least three to the neo—nazi cause. he has now been found guilty of being a member of national action and has been thrown out of the army, along with one of his nazi recruits. these individuals we re his nazi recruits. these individuals were weeded out, there was a joint operation tween us and the police. if there are serious breaches of values and standards, the army will ta ke values and standards, the army will take the most serious action against these individuals. what does that involve ? these individuals. what does that involve? that rangers, but it can
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result in their service being terminated. one of the most extreme people in the group was adam thomas, who also wanted to join the army. he and his partner, claudia, gave their baby the middle name, adolf, after adolf hitler. amazingly, just two yea rs adolf hitler. amazingly, just two years earlier, adam thomas had been in israel and trying to convert to the jewish faith. by the time of their arrest, claudia and adam's house was full of ku klux klan paraphernalia and nazi symbols. they also had ambitions for violent disorder, stockpiling weapons and machetes in their bedroom and buying a £1000 crossbow. adam thomas even discussed stealing an assault rifle from the army. his friend, darren fletcher, seen here on the left, wrote in the accredited chat group about killing anti—white mps and the government. adam thomas agreed this was a good idea. it has not been just talk, in wales, one former
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national action member, zach davis, was convicted of attempting to murder a seat dentist with a machete. another, jack renshaw, admitted plotting to murder his mp and lancashire. a third, jack coulson, was found guilty of building a viable pipe bomb in yorkshire. the national action phenomenon and other extreme right—wing groups have led to a change in tactics from the government. the security service, mi5, is government. the security service, m15, is now taking the lead in gathering intelligence on the threat. it means that extreme right—wing groups that pose a threat of violence are now being treated in the same way as other terrorist organisations. the former liberal democrat peer lord lester is facing a record suspension from the house of lords after he was found to have sexually harassed a woman in the course of his parliamentary duties. the lords privileges
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and conduct committee recommended he should be suspended untiljune 2022 after offering the complainant "corrupt inducements" to sleep with him. lord lester stepped down from the liveral democrat front bench and his membership of the party's group in the house of lords was suspended after the allegations surfaced. peers are expected to vote on thursday whether to accept the committee's recommended punishment. concerns about knife crime have led to a call for a change in the rules governing stop and search. adrian hanstock, of the national police chiefs' council says the threshold should be lowered to when an officer is concerned that a person could be at risk — rather than " reasonable grounds to suspect someone has committed a crime". the mayor of london, sadiq khan, says body cameras can help make all the difference to stop and search — but it must be combined with an increase in numbers of police on the street. i thought always supported stop and search, i was a big advocate for it and helped find the world's biggest videos. why? it gives the police
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confidence to use this tool, but reassures londoners that stop and search is being done properly. we will have to wait and see what the government's plans are. but i am clear that the you can give the police also to paris, but unless there are sufficient pleas officers to keep londoners say, it doesn't really matter. so, the government must invest in our police, our city generation to the sufficient number of police officers. you're not worried that an increased use of stop and search without reasonable ground will increase tensions? and search has got to be lawful, targeted, intelligence led. it will be the case where sometimes a summary is stopped and searched, they are not carrying a weapon, drugs, they've done nothing wrong. that is why it is important for them to become courteously. the body one video is important. the police have the confidence to use targeted intelligence stop and search, happy couples to use this tool. the video will protect you from complaints,
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but also, londoners will know that the body one video record interactions between the police and public. it's no good if a police officer today stops and searches you unlawfully or wrongly. you go back and tell your family, and unlawfully or wrongly. you go back and tell yourfamily, and tomorrow, we ask you to provide intelligence to the police. they are surprised when you don't provide intelligence. an investigation has found that housing arrears are 2.5 times higher than those who still receive the use of universal credit. the chancellor, philip hammond, announced extra money for universal credit in his budget last month, to counter warnings that moving onto the all—in—one benefit system could push people into extreme poverty. catrin nye reports. anthony smith lost his job a year ago and had to claim universal credit. he struggled with the online system and lost benefits for missing job centre appointments.
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i have just explained to you... he owes £4000 in rent to the council and is facing eviction. i've even looked for somewhere to live, and i've found a bridge. the only thing i'm not playing ball with is i can't work the computer. i'm left behind. under the old system, housing benefit was paid directly to the council, but now it's paid direct to claimants like anthony as part of one single benefit, universal credit. anthony should then pay rent to the county council, but he's way behind, and so are others. we had a rent arrears position last year of 1.6 million. it's now £450,000 worse than it was then, and a large proportion of that is attributable to universal credit. panorama has discovered that across the uk council tenants on universal credit are falling behind with their rent, owing on average £663, compared to £263 for those still on housing benefit. that's more than double the debt.
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the government has rejected calls to return to the old system, paying rent direct to councils. the key point here is to make sure that people get support in terms of funding, and that is why earlier this year we introduced a package worth £1.5 billion, which means anyone coming on to universal credit who is currently receiving housing benefit will get two weeks of extra money. critics argue much bigger changes are still needed. telling white lies about your age is not an uncommon practise on dating websites but one man from holland is taking his search for romance a little further. emile ratelband — who's a motivational speaker by day, is trying to legally change his age from 69 to 49 with the aim of boosting his online dating prospects. he's attempting to move his birthday from 11 march 1949 to 11 march 1969. earlier he spoke to victoria derbyshire. my doctor says i have a biological age of 42,
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so he has put it on paper. i said, ok, why am i not that age? so i want to be that age, 49, i want to be 49. what can't you do at 69 that you can do at 49? we have high unemployment in holland, all those people who are unemployed are above 55. so when you are above 55, you cannot get a job. but you are not unemployed? of course not. so that's not the reason? if i want to buy a house, i can't get a mortgage anymore. have you got a mortgage now? i have a mortgage, but if i want to change house, it isn't possible, because i am too old. so in myjob, many people ask me who are over 70, —— you are almost 70, how can you speak the language of people 25? you are an old man. i said i am not an old
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man, i am a wise man. but i always had to defend myself and lie about my age. i don't want to do that, so i want to legalise it. why do you have to lie about your age? people say they don't believe what i say. they say i look younger than i am, but i have to lie to them. you have compared this to transgender people, why? we can travel wherever we want, change our names and we can also change our gender. so why can i not change my age? does he have a point? i am flabbergasted. i started thinking i would be sympathetic, but i am not sympathetic, the more i listen to this. i thought we were talking about discrimination here. age discrimination? yes, and perhaps in holland, you have less robust laws. but you have a job. it comes back to using it is a choice. it is not a choice, you're talking about something that is physiological, it is well recognised. some people would love...
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i don't agree. some people would love to retire early. i went to a shrink and he said i might suffer from peter pan complex, so he examined me and said, you don't have the peter pan complex. that means that you cannot accept you're getting older. so he said i might have another complex, are you aware of what is going to happen to you? so he examined me again and said, you are fully aware of what you are doing. so it is my feeling, it is your feeling when you are a man, you had the feeling you wanted to be a woman. it's ok. and i have the feeling i want to be younger, it is my feeling. i respect you, you respect me. the man who wants to change his name from 69 to 49. in a moment it's time for the one o'clock news with simon mccoy but first it's time for a look at the weather with susan powell
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we have seen some heavy and persistent rain to the west, but we have a weather front feeding in a the area of low pressure, which is dominating the weather at the moment. more showers to take us through the main of the afternoon and into the evening rush hour. driest in the fourth north of scotland, and the eastern counties of england. but a mild story, rise of england. but a mild story, rise of 14 degrees. through the evening rush, some showers will remain potent, not the greatest of conditions to be on the road. by the time we get into the small hours of tuesday, things. to calm down considerably. we showers are thinning out to the south of the uk. still some lingering for northern england and southern scotland, as tuesday gets under way. a mild night, lows of 6—8 degrees full stop tuesday daytime, there will be showers around first thing, but
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overall, the prospects in contrast to today look a good deal drier. there will be brightness and a breezy day to come. low pressure still driving our weather, but the showers that we see first thing will thin out by the time you get to the afternoon. almost all bus will enjoy afternoon. almost all bus will enjoy a dry spell and sunny spells. sunshine turns a little hazy through the west in the afternoon, as high clouds start to arrive. as a 13 or 14 degrees. the high cloud is a weather system coming that will affect many northern and western areas on wednesday. high—pressure closed by the continent, that will come into play later on in the week. wednesday will be the final day when we see some weather systems pushing their way across as at least this week. so some wet weather from northern ireland and northern england first thing. wet story for the north—west of england. but the high pressure will start to clear things from the saudis, even later on into wednesday. some very warm
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weather, 16 degrees in belfast, despite the cloud. for the latter pa rt despite the cloud. for the latter part of the week, the weather will push its way across the uk. dry weather and mild weather as well. we could get stuck in some places with persistent cloud and maybe some lingering patches of fog. the middle name adolf, in tribute to adolf hitler. their ambition hasn't changed, they are seeking changed, they are seeking violent extremism, they are seeking to wage a race war on the streets of the united kingdom. we'll have the latest from birmingham crown court. also this lunchtime... pressure intensifies on theresa may, with 48 hours to arrange a deal in time for a hoped—for summit in brussels later this month. but a brexit minister says there's no need to panic. we can't rush it, we have to get the right deal, this is an agreement that will endure for many years, so we have to take the time to make sure that we get it right. 31 people are confirmed dead in california's wildfires, with more than 200 missing, making them the deadliest in the state's history.
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