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therefore no to happen and therefore no brexit was not an option on the table and for the first time i think to do we had it from the prime minister's goalmouth that is no brexit is one of the possibilities. she do that in terms of saying to her own supporters that this is one of the things you best, that there is no brexit but for those people who have been out on the streets of london and elsewhere around the country, campaigning vigorously and who would look at this and say, in a way is this better than the deal we hardly have with the european union and therefore brexit should be abandoned altogether. it will give them hope. you highlighted the fact that nick timothy is featuring? yes, former chief of staff to theresa may absolutely slams this deal. it is interesting the westminster watchers that he has come out, normally double ten use him as an outlay to make the case of the prime minister.
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you have both been directors of communications for opposing parties, have you known cabinet meetings to last as long as this, five hours?” haven't, no. ifind it amazing last as long as this, five hours?” haven't, no. i find it amazing that how things leak out so quickly. i would probably be briefing stuff at the head of the cabinet finishing because early on in the day, there isa because early on in the day, there is a huge mistake for a media management point of view because other people will frame the agenda and subsequently they will, make the statement so obviously it was a difficult encounter in there. usually cabinet meetings to go on anything like this long because by ministers like to have them pretty well fixed before they start. back in the ladies when i sat in on cabinet meetings —— tony blair days.
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didn't last so long that, the prime minister preferred debate to be done elsewhere. but when there is a difficult position like this is the only option the prime minister has is to allow everyone to have their say so nobody can come out and say we did not have the opportunity. and she is in a weak position, she has to sort of give way to different cabinet ministers. lets me through the papers. the guardian was no fan of brexit throughout the war process so of brexit throughout the war process so it takes presumably does not surprise you? no, not at all. i think you are seeing a similar flavour across all the papers. interestingly the guardian reports that one of the cabinet ministers that one of the cabinet ministers that spoke up for the deal was michael gove, one of the most ardent brexiteers, a big cheerleader. it also has the esther mcvey around it,
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it is interesting here because it says she was caught between the devil and the deep blue sea but this is the whole issue here, while people might not like this deal there is not coherent alternative that cabinet ministers are coming up with. this is why they are stuck in a hard place and this is why ultimately she will survive i think. it will be bruising but i think she will get through this. i think different factions in the party keeper in place because there is no obvious leader to come through. keeper in place because there is no obvious leader to come throughm that you take on it? yes, twitter obviously goes wild on a night like this and itjust goes crazy and so many rumours swirl around but if you listen to some of the stuff that has been said on the record, particular by the hardline brexiteers and the conservative party, that they are seriously considering putting those letters in which is the process to do that. the chairman of the
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backbench 22 committee collects these letters, was in seeing the prime minister this evening but we we re prime minister this evening but we were told that was just to talk about the deal and not to talk about about the deal and not to talk about a possible leadership challenge. the possibility of a challenge is much greater by the problems with it are ill as you have an agreed candidate... if she does win, she gets eight years grace. there was a vote potentially about her and she wins by a narrow margin she would stay. that is the least of her worries. as we continue, a slightly different take from the financial times. i actually thought given how high stakes the situation was i thought she gave a polished and poised speech. she gave it without
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notes, if i was about out teller to have a lecture on their but i thought it was quite good. there will be difficult days ahead but she's bracing herself for a leadership challenge. another point raised there, we have not touched on the border issue so far in this conversation, at least not to a great extent by geoffrey cox is quoted there, the pro—brexit attorney general, concerned about britain... this is again to the dup and their worries. this was the sticking point that held up this cabinet meeting which was supposed to have happened earlier this week oi’ to have happened earlier this week or even at the end of last week. it was the continuing discussion with the european side about this backstop deal and it does look as if theresa may and the british government have had to make more concessions on that and what that means is that in certain subtle ways
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that may never come to pass but are in the document, northern ireland will be treated differently to the rest of the united kingdom and that is an absolute deadline for the dup. it may never happen but the fact that northern ireland has talked about the movement is vastly different than the way that the rest of the uk is talked about and that means the tent dup votes when it comes to parliament, it'll be a very difficult time for two is me and those ten votes are going to be against her. just on the dup, i am reading a quote on arlene foster, this was what she has said about the meeting. rankings in interesting adjective under the circumstances. does that take us anywhere? that was a fundamental was agreement. the
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question is can you start peeling off labour mp5? what is question is can you start peeling off labour mp5? what i5 i5 question is can you start peeling off labour mp5? what i5 is a number off labour mp5? what i5 is a number of people come out and condemned the deal without reading it. brexiteers but also people like jeremy corbyn, quite frankly i55ue mu5t opportunist in that point. it is 585 pages long and even our people won't have the chance to read it very much. the express has been very pro—brexit throughout but to an extent it has softened. it has become a big chill for it theresa may, a bit like how the male ha5 softened for it theresa may, a bit like how the male has softened its tone as well. there has to be comprises an difficult days ahead and i think once again picking up on the snow brexit line which, i think for all these brexiteers, this is the culmination of their political work from any of them. this was what they have been in parliament for for 25 years so have been in parliament for for 25 years so if we do but the deal down
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there is a good chance of brexit won't happen and it has to be a big clock elation for them to wake up. the headline also tells us that no brexiters on the table in a way it wasn't previously but also theresa may is using different arguments by different people that she has two sweet. with yours sceptics she's saying it is my deal or no brexit, for the people who are broadly in favour of staying in the union she is staying it is my deal or no deal and all the chaos that goes with that and for the rest of the party she is saying well it is my deal or it isjeremy corbyn the she is having to use... should there is not one consistent line she is using ca re one consistent line she is using care and that shows how weak she is. inside the express we are back to the leadership challenge. detox like the leadership challenge. detox like the difficulty of that parliamentary vote coming mid—december. the difficulty of that parliamentary vote coming mid-december. no party once the leadership election in the middle of something as serious as
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this and that i'm sure, is something that tory mps will be weighing up quite seriously. from all the mutterings that have been going on throughout the evening it looks as if the possibility of a leadership challenge is there. my hunch is and giles knows them better than i do, my hunch is that she is with it because although you trigger and a leadership election, she only has to get a slim margin of votes think she would win it at this time. if we get through brexit it would be a whole different ball game. to bring a prime minister down on one of the most unprecedented times and a past 100 years would be a huge thing to do. we will order the daily mirror, not a fan of theresa may or brexit. sub rab c hadley war cabinet is not altogether unsurprising.”
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sub rab c hadley war cabinet is not altogether unsurprising. i think they are over egging it. they may have asked questions, they may have expressed reservations, they may not have come out wholeheartedly in favour of it but it doesn't mean that they are at war. we will do all this again in 45 minutes' time. that is all it for the paper at this time. it's all there for you — 7 days a week at bbc.co.uk/papers — and if you miss the programme any evening you can watch it later on bbc iplayer. thank you to my guests, the political commentators, lance price, and giles kenningham. we'll all be back for a longer look at the papers at 11:30. the weather is next. hello, we have got a largely trite settled theme to the weather over
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the next pda. we did have a bit of rain over the north and the west on wednesday but for most of us it was strike, this was the picture as the sunsetin strike, this was the picture as the sunset in oxford trier. as we had to the day on thursday things will mostly dry and mild but there will be more cloud than recent days but also some sunshine just picking through that card, particularly to an immediate. we have a weather front just sitting to an immediate. we have a weather frontjust sitting to the an immediate. we have a weather front just sitting to the far north—west, just bringing a few of rain but for much of the uk we are under the influence of a big area of high pressure that will influence oui’ high pressure that will influence our weather through the course of the weekend. for thursday summer in for the far west of northern ireland, north of scotland to but for most of the country it is dry. there will be a bit of mist or, low cloud and fog but are not the scotla nd cloud and fog but are not the scotland and east of scotland it will feel mild. 13 to 15 degrees most of us, higher then we would expect that that time of year. a bit of river scotland but into friday things will become dry across the
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board. we will see some myths, fog and low cloud building. it will be frost—free and most of us, temperatures on double figures from the word go on friday. weatherfront of sitting out in the atlantic but the economic and away across uk down toa the economic and away across uk down to a big area of high pressure. it is really in the driving seat through friday and into the weekend to. against a mist, some fog and some low cloud, especially in central southern and eastern parts. that should turn to break up during the day so sunny spells developing but still fairly grey in places by the afternoon. dumped averages around 13 to 1a degrees on friday and just a subtle change into the weekend, it should stay dry and settled but things will start to feel a little bit cooler. silver saturday, idris started the some mist, fog and low cloud but it should clear fairly quickly with clear conditions working in from the south—east. will not be quite as mild with temperatures about ten to 12 degrees on saturday. it cold
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night saturday into sunday, could be a touch of frost but from the word 90, a touch of frost but from the word go, clearer skies than most of us. babies and cloud around. afternoon, not quite as mild, around ten to 12 degrees. this is bbc news. the headline that 11 p.m.. the cabinet approved theresa may's brexit plans after five hours of debate. the prime minister claims that this is the best brexit plan on offer, urging mps on all sides to lend their support. i believe that what i owed to this country is to take decisions that are in the national interest.
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and ifirmly that are in the national interest. and i firmly believe with my head and my heart that this is a decision which is in the best interests of oui’ which is in the best interests of our entire united kingdom. as ministers left downing street, opposing voices were being heard among conservative mps and among the government's parliamentary partners. i will vote against it and i expect many others will. this does not meet either the result of the referendum
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