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this is bbc news. the headlines: president trump says he's been advised not to listen to an audio recording of the murder ofjournalist, jamal khashoggi. he's confirmed the us authorities have the tape — recorded at the saudi consulate in istanbul — and that it's too "violent" and "terrible" to listen to. strong winds in california are hampering progress for emergency crews battling the camp fire, which is still only 60% contained 10 days after it started. at least 76 people have died, and 1200 are still unaccounted for. tensions have built in the mexican border city of tijuana, as nearly 3,000 migrants from a caravan that has been travelling through central america have arrived into tijuana in recent days. the federal government estimates the number of migrants could soon swell to 10,000. to the latest headlines. —— the latest headlines. now on bbc news, the week in parliament. hello and welcome to
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the week in parliament, as theresa may faces opposition from all sides to her brexit plan. the government must now withdraw this half—baked deal. i plead with you to accept the political reality of the situation you now face. she clearly doesn't listen. but in a marathon commons session, mrs may stands fast on her eu divorce plans. voting against a deal would take us all back to square one. it would mean more uncertainty, more division, and a failure to deliver on the decision of the british people that we should leave the eu. also on this programme — we delve back into the history of parliamentary crises and ask — would changing the prime minister make a difference? changing the leader doesn't alter the problem, unless you change the policy.
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it was the week of a breakthrough and a breakdown. the breakthrough — news on tuesday that uk and eu officials had agreed the draft text of a brexit withdrawal agreement — running to 500 pages — coupled with a much shorter document on the future relationship. the breakdown came on thursday with the collapse of a fragile cabinet consensus. theresa may had set out what was in the documents to her senior ministers in a five—hour meeting on wednesday — at the end of which, she stepped out onto a darkened downing street to announce it had been agreed. but it was to turn out to be a brief and fragile calm. the next day, the brexit secretary dominic raab threw a spanner in the works by announcing his resignation. he was swiftly followed by the work and pensions secretary esther mcvey, and a clutch ofjunior aides and ministers. the withdrawal agreement is all about how the uk leaves the european union, not the permanent future relationship. it covers things like the divorce bill, eu citizens‘ rights, and crucially, the northern irish border, during what's known
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as the transition period immediately after brexit. parliament had — one way or another — spent much of the week talking about brexit, but it was her three—hour statement to parliament on thursday that saw the tension peak — and the prime ministerforced, again and again — to defend the agreement. i know it's been a frustrating process and forced us to confront some very difficult issues. but a good brexit, a brexit which is in the national interest is possible. we have persevered and have made decisive breakthrough. once a final deal is agreed, i will bring it to parliament, and i will ask mps to consider the national interest and give it their backing. voting against a deal would take us all back to square one. the withdrawal agreement and the outlined political declaration represent a huge and damaging failure. after two years of bungled
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negotiations, the government has produced a botched deal, that breaches the prime minister's own red lines and does not meet our six tests. the prime minister comes before us today trying to sell us a deal that is already dead in the water. not even her own brexit secretary could stand over it. i could today stand here and take the prime minister through the list of promises and pledges that she made to this house, and to us privately about the future of northern ireland and the future relationship with the eu. but i fear it would be a waste of time, since she clearly doesn't listen. the prime minister rightly asserts that there are two alternatives to her plan, no deal and no brexit. the government is investing considerably in contingency planning for no deal.
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what contingency is she doing for no brexit? we are making no plans for no brexit, because this government is going to deliver on the vote of the british people. so we risk chaos, job losses, environmental rules torn up, the nhs in crisis. now, that was never the will of the people, they did not vote for that. this isn't a parlour game, it's real people's real lives. would she at least undertake today not to rule out taking us back to the british people and having a people's vote? so it's quite clear she cannot command the house of commons on these proposals. in fact, i'm almost tempted to ask if the honourable members opposite would put their hands up if they and actually do support the prime minister on this set of proposals? not one. as what my right honourable friend says and what my right honourable friend does no longer match, should i not
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write to my honourable friend, the member for altrincham and sale west? that's graham brady — the mp who chairs a backbench group of tory mps and who would tell the prime minister if 48 of them had called for her to go, triggering a leadership vote. in the chamber, it took nearly an hour before an mp stood up to offer support. i want to pay tribute to the fact that the prime minister did get agreement in cabinet, and can she reassure us regardless of how many ministerial resignations there are between now and the vote, that the agreement will come to parliament and parliament will have its say, and that she is clear that voting for that agreement is in the national interest? can i say to my right honourable friend, i can give her the assurance that obviously we have the support of the european union and council in finalizing the deal, but the deal finalised would indeed be brought to parliament,
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and as i suggested earlier, it would be for every member of this house to determine their vote in the national interest. it is therefore mathematically impossible to get this deal through the house of commons. the stark reality, prime minister, is that it was dead on arrival at st tommy's before you stood up. so i plead with you, i plead with you to accept the political reality of the situation that you now face. will she not accept that, at this stage, are we all being collectively sold out but the people of northern ireland are being sold out absolutely? and it was a similar story in the house of lords. so let's be clear, what is most important — the prime minister is failing the people of our country. this agreement document bears all the hallmarks of monty python's dead parrot. it is bereft of life. my lords, the prime minister in her statement speaks of bringing the country back together. does the minister believe that this is a credible and achievable aim? and if so, how will
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it be brought about? yes, i do believe it is a credible and achievable end and it's something the prime minister has been focused on, delivering brexit and we have a deal. we will be bringing a deal to parliament and parliament we hope will support it, and we will bring the country back together in a strong relationship with the eu going forward. northern ireland is now being pushed onto the ledge and into no man's land. this is hardly acceptable, and not an acceptable way to protect the union. a former brexit minister spoke out. i fear my misgivings about what would happen in this process have been too true. this latest political declaration is meaningless waffle. worse still, it's laced with the cyanide of the backstop. how can the government possibly contemplate this and the absolute opposite of what the people voted for, rather than put it back to the people and let them decide? the views in the commons
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and the lords on theresa may's draft brexit agreement. it's all left those of us who've been around westminster for a while trying to think of another time when parliament has been quite so divided. so i called in an expert — professor vernon bogdanor, who's a professor of both politics and contemporary british history. i asked him if this was the most divided parliament he could ever think of. europe is a uniquely divisive issue in british politics, because it splits both parties right down the middle. when we first thought of a european engagement in 1915, labour's foreign secretary warned against. -- 1950. he said once you open that pandora's box, a lot of trojan horses will fly out. these trojan horses fly out from both parties
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and the conservatives very obviously denied it but labour is not, so obviously that's a covered that division in the election campaign, and they cover it in the six keir starmer principles by saying we want managed migration but we also want all the benefits of the customs union and the internal market. now, the european union's never given those benefits unless you accept free movement, so labour's trying to finesse the issue to hold the party together in that way, and the conservatives did that until recently but now, of course, they face the moment of truth. so it's europe, particularly, which divides parties within parliament you think? absolutely. you can think of all sorts of historical crisis in one party. jacob rees mogg mentioned the repeal of the corn laws in 18116, which divided the conservatives and kept them in opposition for 27 years. then you can look at the home rule crisis of 1886, which divided the liberals and kept them in all its position for most of 20 years. europe divides both parties, and the last comparable occasion was actually when we tried to enter the european community in 1972, when the second reading of the bill
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was passed byjust eight votes, and that involved labour people voting with the conservative government, and the third reading was passed byjust 17 votes. so europe is as i said a moment ago a deeply divided issue in british politics for both parties. looking back then to the last time europe was in crisis in parliament, how did parliament deal with it best time around? is there anything this government could learn? well in one sense, parliament is weaker now than it was when we had the maastricht debate in 1993. because thenjohn major lost a vote on maastricht, he immediately returned the next day to make it a matter of confidence, he said if you don't support me,
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i will dissolve parliament and there will be a general election. that, of course, brought the dissidents into line. you can't do that anymore because of the fixed term parliament act, which means that a confidence vote can't be tacked onto some other motion. you have to have a specific vote of no—confidence in the government. is that still an option for theresa may? can she press the nuclear button and say it's my deal or a general election? no. because of the fixed term parliament act, you could only have an election if two thirds of the commons vote for it. that's what happened in 2017. the conservatives are not going to vote for an election again because last time, they were 20% ahead in the polls
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and look what happened. they lost the majority and they're not going to risk that again. they won't vote for an election, the only other way you could get it is if there was a vote of no—confidence in the government which was passed, an alternative government could be formed at 101a days. that too is unlikely and the conservatives i believe would not allow that to happen. what about changing the leader? does that fix a problem or is that just a by—product of having to change the policy? chaining the leader does not alter the problem unless you change the policy. the problem is that those opposed to theresa may are a collection of this. some of the people oppose it because they want a much harder brexit. looser ties with the european union, but most scope for an independent trade policy. 0thers oppose it because they want a much softer brexit, 01’ even a remain 01’ even a people's vote. there's no way those two groups are going to agree on anything else and i suspect that neither of these lines the policy have a majority for them in the house of commons. you may argue the only way out of it is a further referendum or a people's vote, but as i said,
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there may be no majority either in the house of commons. there are plenty of historians, is there anywhere in history where you would point to them that might offer them a way out of this particular crisis? i think there isn't, and it's partly because of the fixed that was founded on 2011, to lead to quite different circumstance, namely the problems involved in a hung parliament and a coalition government. a hung parliament but not a coalition, and this is a different sort of situation than that in 2011, but it does cause difficulties that the prime minister can no longer threaten a general election if she doesn't get her way, giving her a much more difficult position than the prime minister's in 2011. professor vernon, thank you very much for coming onto the programme. now let's go to the house of lords, where peers voted against the immediate suspension of lord lester, after an inquiry found he'd groped a woman and offered her a peerage in exchange for sex. lord lester said the allegations were completely untrue, but the lords privileges committee
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recommended that the veteran human rights lawyer should be suspended for three—and—a—half years, which would be the longest suspension ever. the deputy lords speaker defended the report by the conduct committee, and the work of the commissioner for standards: she implied the house over a code of conduct. she should not be criticised for doing exactly what the house asked of her to do, and the criminality for, she had done properly. but the leading lawyer, lord pannick, proposed that the case be sent back and examined again, arguing the process had been unfair if you're going to assess the credibility of competing contentions as to what happened over 12 years ago, if you're going to apply a very serious sanction against someone, and if you're going to destroy their hitherto
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unblemished reputation, you have to allow them, through their counsel, to cross—examine the person who is making those allegations. which turn on credibility. at the end of that debate, peers voted by 101 to 78 to support lord pannick‘s amendment, so lord lester's case will be reconsidered. lord mcfall, said he was "deeply disappointed" by that decision — lord lester meanwhile said he looked forward to restoring his reputation. now let's take a look at some news from around westminster in brief. the government's making clear it's got no immediate plans to change the rules on "stop and search". some police forces have been pressing for the scrapping of the requirement that "reasonable grounds" are needed before a person can be searched following the spate of recent fatal stabbings and the rise in knife crime. i was first stopped and searched at age 12 and i wet myself,
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it was that scary. we got to a place where the home 0ffice did a review which found there was no discernible, significant increase in crime using stop—and—search, and the current prime minister reached a cross—party consensus on the issue in this house. can i caution him against his party moving to a place where we break that consensus? outside stratford a week in january, one week operation engulfed 27 people arrested, ten highly offensive dangerous scary weapons seized. it has its place. a conservative has called for unauthorised traveller sites to be made illegal. andrew selous also wants councils to convert caravan sites into housing, to provide temporary stopping sites, and schooling for traveller children. he highlighted the fears of local residents, levels of crime and the travellers own living conditions. ina large
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in a large number of traveller sites, no proper sewage system with human excrement flowing into local ditches. some sites don't even have proper water supplies and in some cases, residents have lost their supply of water when it's been illegally tapped into. there was a call for supermarkets to offer customers packaging free — or eco friendly packaging — for all fruit and veg. the debate came after 125 thousand people signed a petition on the subject. an mp called plastic pollution one of the great environmental challenges of our time. every piece of plastic can take decades or longer to degrade and will simply breakdown into smaller and smaller particles. we then find plastic entering the ecosystem, and it has the potential of killing seabirds, fish and animals through ingestion and releasing their harmful toxins as the plastic breaks
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up. there was victory for campaigners who've been fighting to lower the maximum stakes on high street gambling machines, known as fobts. the chancellor announced in his budget that the maximum bet would be reduced from £100 tojust £2 but not until october next year. that prompted the sports minister tracey crouch to resign and provoked the threat of a backbench rebellion. on wednesday, ministers announced in a written statement that the change would come in earlier, in april next year. there was a call for recognition for the fastest man you've probably never heard of. steve jones was an raf aircraft technician from south wales who held the british marathon record for 33 years until sir mo farah beat it earlier this year. he won marathons in london, new york and chicago. we've got this great man who accomplished incredible things, and inspires people to follow in his blood steps, but who simply is nowhere near as widely recognised as
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he should be —— footsteps. nick smith on sporting hero steve jones. now, we all know names can be tricky, hard to pronounce, tough to remember and all too easy to get wrong! well, there's a bit of row going on in cardiff over the new name for the welsh assembly. the ruccus is over whether it should be know as the seneth or the parliament. i asked bbc wales olitical correspondent eckew gwowr to explain. a consultation was held to see what the name should be. the assembly has powers now to change the name if they wish. the consultation decided it should be welsh parliament. however, the presiding officer has recently said that she's decided it should be called a seneth. that colloquially is what people call the assembly anyway, it's what the building is called, so i think in terms of simplicity, they want to call it one name. but others say maybe english—speaking as word quite
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understand what it is, they may still call it the assembly —— english speakers won't. there are concerns if it was called the welsh parliament, the members would be called members of the welsh parliament. mups. that could be interpreted as the beginning of muppets, which means stupid in welsh, so there are little complications involved there. also, if it is the seneth, assembly members will be called members of the seneth, mns in english. in welsh they will be called ask, which is what we call mps in welsh already —— will be called ask. but this is only part of a bigger bill, isn't it? someone is in this, so the votes for the assembly, whatever you want it. as opposed that the big ticket item in that bill is lowering the voting age to 16 for assembly elections, something the government is really pushing for and this is a small part
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of that bill and if that bill is passed, the name will change and 16—year—olds and 17 year—olds will build a boat in the will be able to vote in elections. —— will be able to vote in assembly elections in 2020. i understand there has to be quite a bit majority for the change to come in, so how likely is it you think this change will come through and what happens if it doesn't pass? a0 votes out of 60. a if it doesn't pass? a0 votes out of so. a big if it doesn't pass? a0 votes out of 60. a big proportion will have to vote for it. it's quite likely this will happen. it has the backing of the labour party and plaid cymru as well. i think it's quite likely this will be pushed through eventually. we will wait to see. thank you for coming onto the programme. now for a look at what's been
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going on in the wider world of politics, here's alex partridge with our countdown. at five, westminster marks parliament week with a visit from a life—sized toy brick suffragette. the results of a public contest to "name our sister" actually did this month. —— are due this month. at four, temperatures freight in the sri lankan parliament as mps veto the nomination of a new prime minister. an awkward moment for angela merkle in france as an admirer mistakes her for madamme macron. and two, a sign language interpreter on the bbc news channel reacts to the developing brexit story. notjust not just because mr notjust because mr raab pass departure might involve... —— mr raab's departure might involve... and that one, w1 star
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hugh bonneville on what brexit might mean for bbc parliament. alex partridge. westminster hall is hosting an art installation as part of celebrations to mark the centenary of some women gaining the right to vote and to stand for parliament. as simon vaughan reports, house of doors was partly inspired by the paving stones of the hall itself... when you put this in a space like this, what you have is people approaching it, i'm sure if they've got a person there or not. the softness of the cloak, and did you get to about level with the threshold, you do not know if there is someone that were not. so there is a disconcerting element that maybe engages people a little bit more as well. 0ne inspiration was this painting from canterbury. the little girl at the door. it was painted in 1910 that they're also at the issues surrounding women's rights, access to public life, that is what really got me thinking about it.
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another inspiration was the floor of westminster hall. as i started to ta ke westminster hall. as i started to take droppings from the floor, you begin to see how they're really quite mesmerising. you've got this incredible texture, you've got indications of were different people have worn them down over time, and all of those footprints, all of those steps that have gone through and up those steps leading on to playing different active roles in shaping society. of course there's also the reality that 100 years ago it was the very fabric of this institution that was preventing women from being able to move forward. so by placing this in the hall, you have this incredible juxtaposition between what the reality was for women then, and how that's changed. so we get this amazing situation where female mps are walking beyond this now. they've got their active roles here, and really i think itjust puts it much
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clearer in people's minds how much has changed in that time. and house of doors is in westminster hall until december the third. that's it from me for now, but dojoin us on bbc parliament on monday night at 11 for another round up of the day at the start of what promises to be another frantic week. and don't forget you can always find the programme by searching for parliament on the bbc iplayer. but for now from me, goodbye. hello there. this is the week where winter makes something of a comeback. the weather is set to get quite a bit colder, probably the coldest day tuesday in the week ahead. now, we've had clear skies over recent hours. that's allowed temperatures to plummet away. northern scotland have already seen temperatures down as low as —a in inverness, and also in braemar. but over the next few hours,
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cloud will be spreading in from the north sea across much of scotland, much of england, and into eastern areas of wales as well. that combined with a breeze should prevent a frost for many of us, but it will still be a chilly old start to the day. now, the big change with monday's weather compared with what we had over the weekend is there's going to be much more cloud in the sky. there'll still be occasional brighter spells, but through the afternoon, the cloud will thicken with showers. they'll come along in shower streams. one of those could well target kent and essex, another one running into parts of norfolk and lincolnshire. now, running up the eastern coasts, you'll notice the showers get a little bit less widespread as we work towards north—east england and eastern scotland. you should be quite unlucky to see showers here, there will be one or two knocking around. temperatures not as warm as the weekend. we're looking at highs typically into single figures, and the colder air will begin to move in as we head into tuesday.
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the cloud thickens, as well, so there'll be further showers around, perhaps a bit of wintriness mixed in too, particularly but not exclusively over the hills. temperatures — well, we're looking at perhaps five degrees in places. but factor in these strong winds, gusting to a0, maybe 50 mph around the coast, and it will feel colder than these numbers would suggest, not that five is a particularly warm day. that's pretty cold for this time of year. but if you add the wind onto that, it will feel more like freezing in places. and there could be a bit snow of around tuesday night, perhaps around the hills of wales, also the brecon beacons as well. now, the middle part of the week sees this big blocking pattern set up in thejet stream. that means the warmth from the atlantic really won't be pushing in this week. instead, the winds will be coming in from a an east—south—easterly direction. so it's a slow recovery process with temperatures from tuesday into wednesday. you'll notice the winds coming from slightly more of an east—south—easterly direction, and that will push the cloud and showers further northwards into northern ireland and scotland. bits of white mixed in. yes, a bit of snow over the hills, the grampians could see some
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of that, maybe the tops of the northern pennines and the north york moors. another cold day, mind you — highs of between seven and eight degrees celsius for most. that's your weather. welcome to bbc news, broadcasting to viewers in north america and around the globe. i'm reged ahmad. our top stories: president trump says he's been advised not to listen to an audio recording of the murder of journalist jamal khashoggi because it's too "violent" and "terrible". california's wildfires. how the emergency services are coping with the crisis, with more than 1000 people still unaccounted for. residents in the mexican city of tijuana take to the streets to protest the arrival of migrants at the us—mexico border. the british prime minister speaks of a crucial few days ahead for her brexit plan, saying replacing her as leader won't make negotiations any easier.
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