hello it's monday, it's ten o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire. we're coming to you from just outside parliament today. conservatives opposed to theresa may's proposed brexit deal with the eu have said they nearly have enough support to launch a no confidence vote in her. but do they really? mrs may says she will not renegotiate her divorce bill. can she withstand the threat of a possible leadership challenge? we'll ask a tory mp if their rebellion is still on, and ask a minister if his boss can survive the week. also today, this woman's partner stabbed her through the heart when she was pregnant, she tells us why she wanted to meet him afterwards, in a process known as "restorative justice". i needed to look him in the face and tell him the impact of his actions, and what it had on my life. he left me that day, dying, as a victim. i needed to face him as a victor, i needed him to see that. and you did it.

and i did it, yeah. and would you go on a blind date with someone who disagrees with you on brexit? all this week, we are sending a brexiteer for lunch with a remainer. first up, lord mayor of sheffield magid magid and love island's zara mcdermott who has left the civil service to speak out on brexit. i genuinely think we should have another referendum. you can'tjust vote again until you get the results you want. until you're happy with it? why don't we go on the original unbiased view... well, you say that, you would say the last referendum was unbiased and it was a level playing field? it would be more biased now than it was, basically. hello. it isa

it is a big blow we at westminster. we are live from just outside the houses of parliament until 11 o'clock. do you support the attempt by some conservative mps to oust the prime minister or do you think she has the right to see it through until parliament votes on the proposed withdrawal deal? do get in touch. let's bring you a summary of the news so far. theresa may faces a critical week over her brexit deal. she will argue that her plans are good for business. it comes as some tory mps continue to press for late changes to the deal. there has been widespread criticism of the draft 588 page agreement setting out what the uk and the eu's future relationship could look like. it is set to be signed off at a summit

this weekend. this is about delivering what the people voted for, people asked for us to deliver brexit. this deal does not deliver brexit. this deal does not deliver brexit and it is my responsibility, and the responsibility of all members of parliament, for the sake of the country and indeed for the conservative party, it was in our ma nifesto conservative party, it was in our manifesto that we would deliver brexit, to make sure it is done. at the end of the day, while theresa may has had one of the most difficultjobs and i respect herfor that, it is clear she is not going to deliver brexit. 77 people are now known to have died in huge wildfires that have swept across northern california. heavy rain is now forecast, bringing new fears of floods and mudslides. around 1000 people have been reported missing, although officials say the figure could fluctuate as the list may contain duplicate names. the general medical council are urgently checking the qualifications of about 3000 foreign doctors after it was discovered a woman had been

practising as a psychiatrist for 22 yea rs practising as a psychiatrist for 22 years with no qualifications. zholia alemi claim she have a primary medical qualification when she first registered in the uk in 1995. but her claim to have a degree from the university of auckland in new zealand was fraudulent. four men have been taken to hospital with stab wounds after a fight in edmonton in north london. the condition of the men, all in their 20s, is not known. police say two vehicles which have been involved in a collision were found at the scene. television viewers have praised a bbc film crew that came to the rescue of trapped penguins they were filming in antarctica. the team behind last night's dynasties episode of the rare decision to help them prepare an quince stuck in a ravine. the actions went against the usual view of nature documentary makers not to intervene in the scenes they are filming. but their effo rts scenes they are filming. but their efforts have been widely praised on

social media. good morning, monday morning, live from westminster. so, will theresa may still be prime minister by the end of this week? as we just heard, she's making a speech to business leaders this morning to at their annual cbi conference, and will tell them that eu nationals will no longer be able to "jump the queue" ahead of skilled workers from other parts of the world. meanwhile, her opponents in her own party are still trying to gather the 48 signatures, required from mps, to trigger a no confidence vote on her leadership. but so far 25 tory mps, just over half of the number needed, have gone public, and said they've submitted a letter. let's talk to norman smith. where are we with the numbers? no one knows is the truth. graham brady said even his wife doesn't know. he has told no one. but when he has got the 48 he is going to move quickly. so it is inevitable? no, and that is

quite interesting, because winding back to last week, everything we heard from the brexiteers was that we have the numbers, we can do that, stand by for blast. now we still don't have bossed. it is a big day for the brexiteers, because if they cannot press the button, people are going to say they are a busted flush, they are all talk and can't deliver. there was a lot of pressure on them, and the difficulty they face is that there is division in the ranks about whether this is clever, whether pressing for a leadership contest might backfire spectacularly because mrs may could win itand spectacularly because mrs may could win it and it would strengthen her position, she would be locked in power for another year. and we saw at the weekend people who you might have thought would come out and say she has got to go, like dominic raab, the man who walked out of cabinet and perhaps has more reason than anyone to one shot of her saying that he is still backing her. remember, we had talk of the pizza clu b remember, we had talk of the pizza club of brexiteers, sort of manoeuvring to try and get mrs may

to renegotiate the deal. well, the pizza is going cold. they do not look nearly as certain. listening to penny mordaunt this morning, she's not sound like him minister on the warpath. will you persuade the prime minister to change your minds? i'll be working with the whole of the cabinet to get the best deal possible for the united kingdom. thank you. the other thing that is going a little bit better for thank you. the other thing that is going a little bit betterfor mrs may his business. they have come out strongly in support of her. something is going betterfor mrs may today. michael gove, environment secretary, still in the cabinet. key player. what he does may shave how other people decide whether to support or not support mrs may. so far he is hanging in. this was him

speaking earlier. no, it isn't, technical gremlins. he is a key player. as for mrs may, she seems to be trying to pitch the argument beyond here to the public. what we will hear from beyond here to the public. what we will hearfrom her beyond here to the public. what we will hear from her today is don't get bogged down in the divorce deal, it is temporary, it is nitty—gritty, the big picture is the political declaration, another agreement setting out the really big issues such as freedom of movement, stipulating that it is coming to an end. mrs may's pitch is that there isa end. mrs may's pitch is that there is a lot of argy—bargy at westminster, don't get hung up on it, the deal does deliver on the big things you want. hold your breath. we do have michael gove. let's see. good morning. i'm just we do have michael gove. let's see. good morning. i'mjust going we do have michael gove. let's see. good morning. i'm just going to work at the department of environment. prime minister has my full support. i hope that people get behind her,

she is endeavouring to get the best deal for britain. will you get the latest changes that you want? the prime minister is doing a greatjob and it's important that people give her all the support that she needs. she should make these changes? would you resign if she doesn't make the changes that you want? the prime minister has my full support. the truth is, time is running out for these guys. if they are thinking of resigning, really, we have the crucial cabinet meeting last wednesday. you know, if they want to make a move and resign, they've got to get a shift on. they don't sound to get a shift on. they don't sound to me like people who are going to walk out the door. i think that moment has passed. anne-marie morris isa moment has passed. anne-marie morris is a conservative mp who has submitted a letter to try to trigger a no—confidence vote. she's a member

of the european research group. lord peter lilley — he's served in margaret thatcher and john major's cabinets, he's a supporter of the leave means leave pressure group which campaigns for what it calls a "clean break" from the eu, and he too doesn't like mrs may's withdrawal agreement. used haven't got the 48 mps to trigger that vote of no—confidence. is your bid to unseat the prime ministerfailing? is your bid to unseat the prime minister failing? no, it's not. how do you know? individual mps will ta ke do you know? individual mps will take different approaches, for many, theissue take different approaches, for many, the issue is, when are we going to have the vote in the house? many of oui’ have the vote in the house? many of our holding back letters waiting for that meaningful vote. hang on, our holding back letters waiting for that meaningfulvote. hang on, on friday morning, your group claimed you have 48 mp5. not so? friday morning, your group claimed you have 48 mps. not so? yes, it is so. you have 48 mps. not so? yes, it is so. there are those that say they will, it is all about timing, some of them have gone in on a provisional basis. you can have a letter, but whether or not it is live or not is at the discretion of

the mp. you are saying you know that sirgraham the mp. you are saying you know that sir graham brady has at least 48 letters, but some are not live yet? and saint 48 members of parliament wish to have their letters in. some come i think, are in, without any discretion, such as mine. some are in with discretion, and some are still pending going in. so the rebellion is not endangerfizzling out? no. sir peter lilley, do you wa nt to out? no. sir peter lilley, do you want to see a new leader? yes, until i'iow want to see a new leader? yes, until now i have been discouraging friends from putting in letters because i didn't wanta from putting in letters because i didn't want a leadership election in the middle of negotiations, but the prime minister came back with a deal thatis prime minister came back with a deal that is the opposite to what she promised at the general election, the opposite of what she promised the opposite of what she promised the cabinet, she bypassed the cabinet, and the direct opposite of what people voted for in 2016.“ you got a new leader, are you really saying a new leader would be able to get a different deal, a better deal, before the uk leaves the eu? i'm

saying that you could get a better deal with luck, before, saying that you could get a better dealwith luck, before, if saying that you could get a better deal with luck, before, if not after. after we have left? conceivably. donald tusk has offered us conceivably. donald tusk has offered us air canada style deal, we should say, this cannot go through parliament, what has provisionally been agreed, let's go back to the canada plus plus plus, extended it to the whole uk, if we don't, we leave on 18 global brexit and negotiate from a position of strength that we will then have. what if theresa may wins a vote of no—confidence question of what if theresa may wins a vote of no-confidence question of my assumption is that she would if it takes place, and it would only take place at 48 members of parliament have said they will vote against her. that means there are more than 48 that will vote against her deal, and that means that the deal is dead. from the moment the 48 number is reached, we know the deal is dead, in which case she ought to

change view. if she will not change direction we are in a bizarre situation of a prime minister trying to do something which is impossible, and against what she promised. henri maurice, you used to work in business, the prime minister is addressing the cbi. the cbi and the federation of small businesses are pleading with mps like yourself to back this deal, because they don't wa nt back this deal, because they don't want no deal and the economic destruction that might follow. they say it would be a wrecking ball for the economy and they know what they're talking about? if you actually read what is in immediate, there is scheduled economic argument going both ways. the cbi and the federation of small businesses say it opens the door for a decent future trading relationship. it opens the door for a decent future trading relationshipm it opens the door for a decent future trading relationship. if you actually look at the figures that have been put out, it is clear when we come out we will be in a much better position. at the moment we have a deficit in terms of trade with other eu members and we have a surplus outside the uk. even the former brexit secretary dominic raab

says there will be short—term disruption. that happens with every change, the end of the day we will be more profitable and economic li more successful, there will be more jobs and we will be in a far better place coming up the other side. we then need to negotiate plus canada. we need to be clear and actually get out of this negotiation. isn't that irresponsible? you may not be affected by no deal, but those in manufacturing would be, it threatens jobs, it puts peoples livelihoods at risks. doesn't. those are part of project fear mark two. even dominic raab. he said there may be disruption. disruption he has claimed to be mitigated. mitigation means it will not be disruption. as $0011 means it will not be disruption. as 50011 as we means it will not be disruption. as soon as we get a agreement, we deliver what the people wanted, we will actually be able to focus on the word trade deal. it is something

we need to prepare for properly. the word trade deal. it is something we need to prepare for properlym it does come to a leadership contest, who is the one eurosceptic and that you believe the party could unite around? i don't know, it's not particularly important as long as we get someone who believes in what they are doing and does it with full vigour and enthusiasm, and unite the nation. you haven't got a preferred name? i might have, but my choice is unimportant. well, we are still interested. sorry to disappoint you. who is the one candidate you believe the party could unite around? we both agree, this point to suicide if we actually name the name. but i don't think it will be any of the old guard come i think it will be someone old guard come i think it will be someone from the 2010 or 2015 intake. somebody who can lead the party out and over the 29th of march, but also somebody that can ta ke march, but also somebody that can take us forward. when will graham brady say he has

the 48? when they realise that theresa may will not give mps a proper vote. it is a plea not democratic and not respectful. big divisions over europe, and you we re big divisions over europe, and you were famously thought to be one of the cabinet ministers that were described as a crude word. does it apply to conservative rebels now?|j don't apply to conservative rebels now?” don't think it applied then. it became a badge of honour. we shouldn't use insulting words for people. do we give up control? the

prime minister is proposing to give up prime minister is proposing to give up control rather than get back control. she will be replaced by somebody who was to honour the democratic voice of the people. as long as you have been in the conservative party, it has been divided over europe. whatever the outcome of this vote, could it divide the tory party for decades to come? only if it aligns with this proposal. it would notjust divided, it would mean that we are certain to lose the next election. all of the votes we were getting from people that were pro—leave would be lost, and we would not win any remainers. thank you for standing in the rain with us. thank you both very much. listening to that is the children and families minister, who is back with toulouse —— backing the prime minister. no leadership contest yet,

but would you say it is imminent? colleagues need to examine their conscience. they say they are, and thatis conscience. they say they are, and that is why they will have the letters this week. removing a prime minister will not deliver the prosperity and the promise we made to the 17.4 million people that we would brexit. if you take both of those views, those that want to scupper the prime minister's efforts, they are mistaken. ithink the british people will not forgive us the british people will not forgive us they betrayed their trust in democracy. if you make people poorer by having a disorderly brexit, and you think you canjust go by having a disorderly brexit, and you think you can just go to a no—deal brexit, i think the premise that was 's deal is where we need to be. if colleagues think about the national interest, this deal and negotiation will shape the future of this country for the next century and beyond. the prime minister has

secured a good deal because europe is moving towards a single army, they want to control the budgets... nothing has happened since last wednesday to make it more likely that mrs may will get her deal through parliament. true?” that mrs may will get her deal through parliament. true? i think we go to the summit on the 25th of november, we make sure that we continue to strengthen the principles of the future relationship, the second half of this, we bring it to parliament, and colleagues on both sides of the house, whether you are a labour, snp, dup or conservative member of parliament, you think about the national interests. making the country poorer or betraying the will of the people to leave the eu...m is half in, half out. i icampaigned i campaigned for brexit, this is brexit. globally can come here, from

the eu or otherwise, having an unfair advantage over the other individual. europeans will not have that unfair advantage. we take back control of our fishing and farming. we make sure we are outside of the jurisdiction of the european court ofjustice after we leave. of course, there is a period where we continue... the future working relationship could be based on a single customs territory. that is unacceptable single customs territory. that is u na cce pta ble to single customs territory. that is unacceptable to critics. the uk will not have a trade deal with other countries around the world. the limitation period, we have a customs arrangement. i'm talking about the future relationship after we leave. it will depend on us. any free trade agreement, ifi it will depend on us. any free trade agreement, if i negotiate a free—trade agreement with indonesia, there will be trade—offs, how close

do we want to be in our trade? therefore, what do we give up for this closeness, to be so close together. that depends on us, not on anybody else. but the prime minister wants to do is to trade confidently with europe, but, this is really important, liam fox is actually holding a briefing today on this to show that we will have a strategy to be able to do deals with the rest of the world so we can trade confidently with the rest of the world as well. sorry, to be clear, are you saying that in a future relationship, after transition, britain could be in a single customs territory with the eu and still the eu would let us make free—trade deals with other countries? at the moment, if this deal goes through, we will have a temporary customs arrangement. then we have a seven page principle of what the trade agreement will look like. there are some things in that that i am really pleased about. 80% of our economy

services. the prime minister has services. the prime minister has services into that principle. the issue of equivalence for the banking system. it is in there. it is for us to negotiate the best agreement possible and allow others to also do with the rest of the world as well. that's the important thing. is the government factoring in losing the vote, revisiting it, making changes and tweaks, bring it back before the commons? i think this agreement is the right thing for our country.” know you do. if we lose the vote, the danger for colleagues, they have to examine their conscience, the danger is you have a disorderly brexit. i'm asking you, is there a chance of a second vote, if you lose the first one. if the government worker loses the first vote, is there a chance of bringing it back with one to market changes? the danger is not whether or not you can bring it back, that is not the question. if you lose the vote, you

have a disorderly brexit. not necessarily. of course you do, you are intoa necessarily. of course you do, you are into a territory when we leave on the 29th of march. the markets, where they thought the deal would not happen, not just where they thought the deal would not happen, notjust property companies and financial service companies, but retailers got hit. why? because the market has not priced in a disorderly brexit. what lam priced in a disorderly brexit. what i am saying to colleagues is that voting for this deal means we deliver audley brexit and we deliver on the promise of the british people that we take back control of our borders and our money. —— orderly brexit. can you confirm that the army is on standby in the event of a no—deal question marks? no-deal question all army is on standby in the event of a no-deal question all i will say is that no—deal is bad for the economy, and if you make people poor, they will never forgive you. look what happened after the erm debacle. will never forgive you. look what happened after the erm debacle]! it conceivable with no deal that the army could be on the streets to help? i didn't say that. i'm asking you. with no-deal it would be very

back of the uk economy, that is what lam back of the uk economy, that is what i am conceding to you. as a brexiteer, i can tell you the economy will be hit. as politicians, we have to think of the national interests. it's not in the national interests. it's not in the national interests to harm our economy, our jobs. neither is it in the national interests not to leave, as we promised the british people. this deal delivers on both. i will be supporting it. thank you very much. that is the children and families minister. what happens when you put two people with opposing political views and invite them to lunch. find out what happens when lord mayor of sheffield magid magid meets love island's zara mcdermott in the first of our brexit blind dates. gareth thomas has revealed he was the victim of a homophobic attack and showed his injuries in a video he posted online. he's also said he chose to meet his attacker, a

16—year—old boy, to talk to him about the impact of the attack. it's about the impact of the attack. it's a process called restorative justice. now, one of the the biggest police forces in the country — the west midlands force — is rolling out a restorative justice programme. they've decided to do it because of the amazing story of a woman called janika cartwright. her ex—partner stabbed her eight times when she was eight weeks pregnant, piercing her heart. she was attacked in a car park and her heart was pierced. she and her baby survived. janika chose to meet her ex, who was jailed for attempted murder, to ask him why he did what he did. i've been talking to janika cartwright, and steven duncan — who committed multiple burglaries over 30 years to feed his crack cocaine addiction and who's become friends with one of his victims. and the police and crime commissioner for west midlands police david jamieson. i want to begin by asking you, if it's ok with you, if you can describe to our audience,

tell our audience what happened that day in the car park. well, i'd split up with my partner. we'd been split up for five weeks. we had a nine—month—old daughter, and i was nine weeks pregnant. there was an agreement for him to see our daughter that day. he was very down, and had been verbally abusive over the weekend. but i said, "you can see our daughter, that's fine." i pulled into the car park, had about half an hour. it was a very sunny day. i'd come back from holiday the day before. i pulled into the car park, and, basically, he got into my car. i turned off my car, turned around to look at him and he had a knife in his hand. his face was very contorted. his voice sounded like something from the pit of hell. and he just basically said, "if you do not agree to be with me, i'm going to slit your throat and go to prison forever for you." so he hit me in the face, got me into a headlock and was strangling me.

i was screaming for help, and i kind of put all my hope into getting out of the car, because i was outside of a gym and i could see in the mirror that there were men in the car park. so after a few minutes of that happening, i managed to get out of his grip and get out of the car and screamed for help. isaid, "somebody, please, help me. he's got a knife. he's going to kill me." at that moment, everybody that was in the car park, it was as if i'd pressed the pause button, everybodyjust froze. i thought no—one's going to help me. no—one did anything? nobody, no. just paused. so then he came round to my side of the car, and i was wedged in between my door and my car, kind of pushed me into the car and lifted up his hand in a stabbing motion, said, "i'm going to kill you now, because you don't want to be with me," and just started to start at me. so he went for my face. i put my arm up and he stabbed me in my arm. and pulled it out, and as soon as he pulled it out of me i thought, "this is actually happening. i don't know how i'm going to come out of this situation." so i was fighting, kicking,

screaming, punching him, screaming as loud as i could, "somebody, please, help me. he's killing me." i didn't realise at the time... i knew i'd been stabbed as many times as i had, which was eight times. i didn't realise that i'd been stabbed in my heart. i thought i'd been stabbed in my stomach, because i was lying down. oh, my goodness. yeah... how on earth did you survive? it was a miracle, basically. the heart surgeon said it was only a miracle that i survived. i shouldn't have survived those injuries. he'd never seen anything like it. for someone to survive those injuries. and the gynaecologist said it was a miracle my son survived. and your unborn baby was nine weeks at that point? nine weeks foetus, yes. yes. that's what they said, yeah. but you went on to have... very healthy, beautiful, little boy, yes. nine months later, yes. amazing. your ex—partner was jailed. he was. when did you think you wanted to meet him to talk about what he'd done to you? and your little boy? the day that i woke up in intensive care. really? yes. because i woke up as a victor, not a victim. and i refused to be a victim. i refused to live my life as a victim. i run away from the word

victim, to be honest. i knew i was a victim of this crime, attempted murder is what it is, but i was not going to let this ruin my life. so i knew... the question that i had when i woke up was why has he done this to me? how could he do this to me? this is a man that i've loved for five years, would have done anything for. how could he do this to me? i need to ask him that question. because nobody else can answer that question for me but him. i started to ask the question to the police, first, about two months later. i would really like to have a meeting with him. i knew it was called restorative justice, i had seen this happen in america. so the policeman first said that doesn't happen in this country. that would never happen. the crime is too severe, and the risk is too severe. but to me it made perfect sense. he's in prison, it's a safe place. there are people there. you did meet him. i did meet him. three and a half years later. it was the most scariest but powerful thing i've ever done in my whole entire life. it was the most powerful thing i did for myself, to heal. it was hard. i did have a little mini panic attack while i was there. but seeing him come in,

seeing his face full of shame, that he couldn't look at me for the first ten minutes, is what i needed to see. what did you ask him? i asked him why did you do this to me? how could you do this to me? the same question i woke up with in intensive care is what i asked him. and he gave me his reason, which is that he was on drugs at the time. he'd been hearing voices, he'd asked for help and had a blackout when he was in the car. it wasn't really about what he had to say, but what i had to say to him. and i needed to look him in the face and tell him the impact of his actions and what it had had on my life. but he left me that day dying, as a victim. and i needed to face him as a victor. i needed him to see that. and you did it? and i did it, yeah. incredible. when you left that meeting, how did you feel? i felt so empowered. i felt so light. my posture was different. i slept for the first night in three and half years.

i hadn't slept for three and a half years. i was like this for three and a half years, going over that conversation, what would i say? what would he say? and the fight i had for it as well, the fact that nobody would support me, no agency would support me in what i wanted to do. i didn't have that fight any more. so all the adrenaline i was running on for three and a half years, it was gone. i just felt so much better in myself, yeah. and i needed to look him in the face and tell him the impact incredible. thank you. and we can see how emotional it makes you talking about it. steven, hello. steven duncan, you have been to jail several times over a criminal career spanning 30 years. you were a burglar. yes. and you have met four of the people you have burgled. that's correct. what was that like from your point of view? very difficult going into it. i was obviously very scared. what were you scared of? just telling the truth and owning up to what i'd done and listening to how it was for the people that

i've harmed. i think what i missed for a long time was the impact my crimes were having on people. i was a drug—addicted offender for a long time and i wasjust in this haze, chasing. i never really stopped to think of the damage i was causing and i think what restorative justice done and meeting those victims really got me in touch at the deepest human level with how much damage i'd actually caused the people. what did they say to you? theyjust talked me through the fear they were in. the fact they couldn't sleep at night. i met an elderly woman, an elderly black woman that i'd stolen some money from. she basically laid out the fact that she hadn't had a decent night's sleep from the time that burglary happened until she met me. the fact that she was in fear. i think the two biggest questions all those victims had was why me? like you had. and if it's going to happen again. are you going to come back and do it again? just getting in touch with the fear. and i walked away from that thinking i didn't realise i'd caused that harm really. i didn't actually realise i'd caused that much harm. the first time that you met someone did you go on to burgle someone else? no, no. since it's been done i haven't reoffended.

so no, the answer to that is no. knowing what you know now, from the people that lived in those houses that you broke into, you're never going to do that again? i will say that to myself but let's be honest about it. there has to be action behind that. i can make those promises and say that but it's a daily battle for me not to use drugs again. if i use drugs again i'm at risk of doing it again. i have to be honest about that. the daily action that i take is getting support for my drug addiction, making sure i don't relapse. managing it? yeah, absolutely. it's easy to say it. fair enough and thanks for your honesty. david jamieson, hello. why are you rolling out this restorative justice programme across the west midlands area? we're going to hear what we've heard today from the two people here, one a victim and one perpetrator of the crime, the benefit this can bring to those parties. and to hear the story there, you wanted to know the reason why, and many other victims have come to me and said, "look, i wanted to know why." so what we've done is put

in place a programme over the next three years. {1.4 billion we're spending. and it's not police money. it's coming out of the victims' fund which comes from the ministry ofjustice. we are putting that in so we can roll out across the west midlands probably the largest restorative justice programme of the country so that victims who want it, and i stress that, it is not for victims who don't want it, victims who want it, and in many cases the perpetrator or the person who has committed the crime also has to agree to it, but you can see the benefits that brings. research has shown that about one in six of those perpetrators who have been through restorative justice don't return to crime. one in six, is that all? that's right. that's not good. nevertheless that is better than that one in six carrying on. this could be hundreds and hundreds of people carrying on. we are not saying it is a perfect programme to stop all criminality. but the main thing is it helps the victim. we know the vast majority of victims

say it has really helped them but it has the by—product of the perpetrators, the people committing crime, drawing them away from crime as well. finally, what are your thoughts towards your ex—partner now? well, for me, the kind of person that i am, i found forgiveness for him in my heart. that was for me, to set me free from the anger and bitterness and hatred that was really trying to play with my heart because i knew how toxic that could be. a lot of people didn't understand it and i lost friends. i need to do what i need to do for me to heal. so i didn't hate him. i don't wish to have any relationship with him orfriendship with him. i know the person that i am and i'm glad i've remained who i am and true to who i am. can i say quickly, of all the four victims that i've met, every single one of those victims had got back in touch either with me or through the police and spoken

about the freedom that they found, the freedom and forgiveness and the power of that forgiveness and what it's done in their lives. i've not had one negative comeback. and for me it's taught me about the power of the human spirit and its capacity to forgive and also forgiveness for myself. guilt, shame, remorse and fear is what comes from looking back at a 30 year history of doing that stuff. briefly have you been able to pay any of the money back that you've stolen? i paid back one of the victims. $8,000 i stole from them, a jamaican lady, who i've managed to build a friendship with. i call her mum, she calls me son. we have regular contact on the phone. this is stuff you couldn't make up. stuff you wouldn't believe if you tell it to people. so yeah, an amazing story, yeah. thank you, all of you. thank you very much. we really appreciate your time. thank you all of you. thank you. people are inspirational and orderly

or e—mail, so proud of your guest, who managed to meet her attacker and ove rco m e who managed to meet her attacker and overcome her fear. so who managed to meet her attacker and overcome herfear. so great. while we are at westminster... eu brexit negotiator michel barnier is holding a news conference in brussels after a meeting with eu ministers to discuss brexit — so far he's said he is pleased they support the draft agreement and that now is a decisive moment for brexit for the future relationship both the eu and uk will have full control of their legislation and would making. this is essential or the integrity of the single market, is essential but the uk in terms of taking back control. now more than ever we must remain calm and keep our focus and

the need for the uk to leave the eu in an orderly fashion. labour's leaderjeremy corbyn says his party will vote against theresa may draft document — so what is their plan to avoid a no—deal brexit? well to answer that question is labour's shadow brexit ministerjenny chapman. thank you for talking to is in the pouring rain. 0n thank you for talking to is in the pouring rain. on thursday you told us pouring rain. on thursday you told us it would be unlikely that labour would support the agreement, you've read at. what do you think? we have professionals who are capable of breathing our leader, it's quite a dense document, quite a lot there, some things you need to read again and again to understand fully stop your definitely voting against it. now we have seen it, it isn't good enough, it's not what we expected, it's not what we've been asking for, we've been really clear about what

it was we would need in order to support, we are long way from that. are you still maintaining labour would get a better deal in terms of exit when there is absolutely no evidence of that? the reason we think that, we've had a completely different starting point, we are saying we want permanent customs union, all of this debate about the backstop union, all of this debate about the ba cksto p of union, all of this debate about the backstop of the irish border, all of thatis backstop of the irish border, all of that is much easier to resolve because we have a completely different ways in which to start. do it in five months? i believe we can. you in fa ntasyland ? it in five months? i believe we can. you in fantasyland? we would not propose something we did not believe was achievable, but we are not going to do in the face of a threat from the prime minister of which we don't believe she would actually fulfil itches to take the country out without a deep, we think that this isa without a deep, we think that this is a bluff, to take the country out without a deal would be a decision which this prime minister which is known for her caution we don't

believe she would do that. well she says she will, if the agreement... she is saying that. because that is the only deal on the table in the real world of real politics. don't fall for it, she is saying it because she needs to threaten people in order to get support for a deal she has little confidence in herself because she was confident she would not need to threaten, if you don't like this i am going to take you all out without a deal, i don't believe she would do it, the only reason she is trying to frame it another way is to achieve support for a week agreement. what would be your message to any labour mps considering supporting theresa may? i don't think there are very many. there are some. there may be some. labour in deeply maghera responsible type of people, babel be thinking ha rd type of people, babel be thinking hard about what is best for the country and colleagues that i have spoken to, many of them are concerned about this and i have spoken to the mp5, the names are

being touted around as people who are likely to support the dealer and iam are likely to support the dealer and i am telling you they are thinking very ha rd i am telling you they are thinking very hard and they know the prime minister is trying to cajole people into supporting a deal that is not right and into supporting a deal that is not rightandi into supporting a deal that is not right and i don't think they are going to fall for that. right, labour in thes supporting theresa may could help her get a deal over the line. she can't even persuade her own cabinet of mind her own parliamentary party, to then said the labour party, you need to help me out, help me get my deal through, we all know the deal is not good enough, i don't think that's a realistic strategy for her to attend. your colleague caroline flint said of parliament rejects the deal i want assurances from my front bench that we would become the accomplices of the hard brexiteers leading the eu crashing out on the 29th of march. i have the right to know how we guarantee the worst scenario. i speak to caroline and

she's absolutely right to ask that, parliament will prevent no dealer because the only thing, the only bit of certainty and parliament right now is that there is a majority, a very large majority in parliament against no deal. but what i do practical things you do to make sure that those that happen? think this through, the meaningful vote takes place, the deal may be rejected, in that circumstance what you are asking is that parliament sits there and is nothing until the end of march. i'm asking you thought you would do. i'm trying to explain. those who are suggesting no deal is inevitable, what they are arguing is that parliament sits there for that period of time and is nothing, what in fact it would need to do is pass legislation in order to leave without a deal. every time that happens issues like agriculture, fishing, immigration, all of these issues, that is an opportunity for

parliament to assert itself and prevent no deal. but i promise you is what would happen. thanks for talking to us, jenny chapman. thank you. we all know how divisive the subject of brexit is. but what happens when two people on opposite sides of the debate who've never met before sit down to thrash things out over lunch? can they find common ground — or at least make it through the meal without chucking their dinner at each other? this week sees the return of our political blind dates series. a different celebrity couple is going on a date each day — first up it's love island's zara mcdermott, who, we can reveal, has quit herjob as a civil servant to speak out about her political views. she met the lord mayor of sheffield, magid magid. was it love at first sight, or did it end in tears? let's see how they got on... brexit is coming. and politics is on the menu. so what happens when you send two people with opposing views on a blind date?

i was really nervous. will daggers be drawn.... will we keep the borders open? did you hear me say that? 0r deals done? high five. will they want brexit hard or soft? and will the political... i would have voted for brexit. i'm leaving. get personal. we could have a wonderful time. really, darling? is this going to have, like, a bit of a tongue in cheek kind of vibe to it? 0k. hello, i'm zara, i was on love island this year and season four and used to be a civil servant. you have to be completely impartial so i've chosen to resign. do you know how weird it is to be able to talk

about my political opinion. i've had to hold it in for three years now. conservative is what you'd say probably. my name is magid, lord mayor of sheffield. i generally don't fit the role what people would expect when they think of a lord mayor. people either like me generally or they really loathe me. i voted to leave. i voted remain. i'm actually excited. i brought some flowers. set the tone a bit. lam single. in an ideal man they have to be quite charming, a little bit sensitive and can have good conversation. i just completely described my boyfriend. this is so over. everybody go home. i was really nervous. i'm not usually outsmarted. i think this person is going to be smart. good afternoon.

hello. magid. zara. nice to meet you. i know the country is going through a bit of a divorce but i thought i would just bring some flowers. thank you. and i can't forget, i've got you some of sheffield's finest henderson relish. thank you so much. nice to meet you. how are you feeling? a bit nervous. what about you ? i am really excited. are you single? no, i have got a boyfriend. god! shall i just leave? what party do you think i am aligned with? i'm not sure. probably say, maybe labour. i'm just thinking. i'm green. you're green party? very interesting. before you met me, what was the stereotypical green person? interest in trees.

loads of leaves round here. i'm joking. can i ask, you, politically... align? i'm quite conservative. i always have been. how did you vote in the eu referendum? i voted to leave. what about you ? leave. leave ? remain. i was going to say, that wouldn't be a very good debate, would it? did ijust drink your drink? i thought they're both mine. they're both yours! oh, thank you. where is the henderson's relish? it's here. have some. thank you, sorry, you were saying. did you know the uk has to submit its annual budget for review to the eu commission before it even tells its own people what it's going to be spending? things like that, i think there are elements of almost control in the eu that we don't perhaps need to have.

we are not part of the euro, you get so much of the benefits of other countries in the eu don't get. i don't think it'sjust the eu. i think britain is being difficult saying listen, we want all the benefits but we don't want freedom of movement. you can't have that. it's simple. if you are in the single market you're going to have to have freedom of movement. stuff like that. i think theresa may and the government are being quite ridiculous. i do agree with your point. you think theresa may has done a good job? she's trying her best but if i'm completely honest i think she went in very soft and it's kind of like, for me, if you want to leave, leave. if you want to stay, stay. you can't sit in the middle. she is trying to keep everybody happy. the fact of the matter is you can't keep everyone happy in politics, you never will. i don't think she's doing a greatjob. that's why i generally think we should have another referendum. what are your thoughts towards people saying that we should

have a people's vote? a people's vote? yes. on what? one, the government have come with the best plan they've got, the chequers plan. do you want a hard brexit, let's just leave, no deal or let'sjust remain in the eu with the intention of reform? you can'tjust vote again until you get the result you want. so you are happy with it? being honest, when we voted in 2016 it was like do you want to leave or remain? nobody, even the government didn't know what the outcome of that was going to be because let's be honest, they thought we were going to remain. i thought we were going to, to be honest. the whole point of democracy is you are allowed to change your mind. i think people obviously change their minds now and i agree, i think if there was another referendum that would come out remain but you can't just say we are going to go down this path and you go all this way and then you go, should we do it still, do you think we should still do it, should we still go for it? i think, all of that time would have

been completely wasted time. it's devaluing it i think, devaluing the democracy. there is a lot of, there's a lot of like, opinions out there that brexit is going down the pan. why should we go on almost like a tainted view, why don't we go on the original unbiased view... would you say it was... unbiased. you would say the last referendum was unbiased? it was a level playing field. it would be more biased now than it was, basically. you reckon there was any lies in the leave campaign? to the people, to the electorate? i mean, i don't know. £350 million. i'm sure there was on both sides. both parties lie. that is fact. a lot of people voted leave on immigration. and i think there is no integration, is no unity. i do think that's a bit disappointing.

ijust think that's human nature. absolutely. say if you move to the democratic republic of congo, and you see some other people from essex. yeah. i'm going to go to the people from essex. you're going to live with your people. i completely get it. that's not to say that you are disapproving of the rest of them. i would always think, why can't we all be friends? why can't we all get along and why can't we always respect each other‘s cultures and understand it? people will say black muslims need to integrate more. people, for example, like myself, i was born in somalia. my family came to sheffield for a better life. and i couldn't speak a word of english when i first came to the country, and neither could my mum. but i integrate. i got elected to the council and became lord mayor. and people still aren't happy with that. they are, like, what gives him the right? he shouldn't be lord mayor, that should be reserved for somebody of specific background. listen, what do you want me to do?

do you want me to integrate? it's a real shame that it's like that. i think, for me, is less about immigration and more about the fact that people can't keep almost like coming in, taking advantage of things like the nhs or the health care system, and then leaving. because it's unfair. i understand where you're coming from, but it's statistically proven that migrants are more of a gain to society than a drain. they actually pay more in taxes than they actually take out. actually, we are winning. but i think some of the rightful worries that you do bring, like the nhs struggling, that is all down to failed government policies. cuts, after cuts, after cuts. government's just crap. cuts to things that are being absolutely, like, taking advantage of, ie the benefits system and the nhs... taking advantage of? there are definitely people on benefits or do not need to be on benefits. and i think there's a really good thing to be able to produce in the uk.

almost like a couponing system. to be able to really monitor that, and now that it's not going to waste. because i think it is quite a risky thing, isn't it, to give someone a lot of money andjust be, like, here's some money for you. if they're an addict, it won't feed their addiction, so i think that would be really beneficial. ijust think it's an inhumane way to say, listen, here's some tokens, you can only buy this. it takes that freedom away from people. people want to get a luxury from time to time. and just because they're on benefits, doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to do that. but i think that there should be at least 50% or 60% of it should be that. no system is ever going to be perfect. there are always going to be flaws in the system but we should try and make it as best as we can. we know a majority of young people voted to remain. and, fundamentally, they're the ones who are going to be impacted by it the most.

and probably have to just deal with the crap and just fix it. you could argue, yes, people like me will probably have to pick up the pieces a little bit more than my grandparents, who are in their 805. but i think that they are able to make a potentially more informed vote. i mean, i've gone and spoken in so many schools, and you would not believe the amount of students i get looking at me, like, what does this mean? they do make informed decisions. if we look at, like, the scottish referendum, they had 16—17 year olds voting. do you think the voting age should be lowered to 17? why not? i got my apprenticeship when i was 18, and, by god, did that teach me a lot. and i think if i had voted the year before, i would have had no idea what i was doing. that's your case. and i completely understand your case. but i'm quite an intelligent girl. i'm quite motivated to learn. do you not think that you be allowed to vote, you would have read

and would have actually got more involved because you are allowed to vote? no. is there anybody you look up to? i worked under amber rudd. i kind of looked at her and thought, that's a really strong woman who knows her stuff. she was a really good person to work under, quite inspiring. also, i really liked david cameron as well. he knew what he was doing. i felt a lot safer under his wing, if you know what i mean. i felt happy. would you say he fitted the character of prime minister? yes. i think he was a stronger candidate for prime minister. would you ever stand to be a politician? i don't know, do you think i'd be all right? don't know, would... have i sold you anything? you think i'm good at... well, you're pleasant to have lunch with. thank you. is that it? i think there's a gap in the market for someone like me, for sure.

i think there's such a gap for people of my age, or younger, to get into government and just started making a difference as much as they can. i would encourage you to stand as a candidate. but not a tory candidate. you see, i'm not one of the people that will go out and preach tory. that's not me. i would not know whether you were a tory. without having to actually probe you... sorry! that's ok. be completely honest with me, right. i don't know how many first dates you've been on. not many. 0k. out of a first date, how do you think i did? any tips, do you reckon? i think you've done really well. i feel like you've listened to me and you look like you're really interested in what i'm saying. so i'd give you ten out of ten for this date. high five! i'll take that. on that note, shall we bounce? thank you so much for these flowers. no—one ever buys me flowers. did you get the eu

resemblance in the flowers? no? oh, it's the eu flag? i get it! sorry. my brain. 0r ukip, depending on how you look at it. but i was going for the eu. honestly, thank you very much. it's been a pleasure. i don't understand why you're single. i think you're fantastic, i really do. i swear to you, i've genuinely enjoyed it. she's been an absolute joy. i'd be friends with the... is it the lord mayor of sheffield? yeah. everyone in sheffield calls me mayor. and in five years' time she's going to be a green mp. they have become friends! and tomorrow, another blind date. scientist, tv presenter and labour peer professor robert winston meets former big brother contestant aisleyne horgan—wallace.

theresa may is speaking at the cbi in an theresa may is speaking at the cbi inana theresa may is speaking at the cbi in an a few minutes. we will have coverage of that. that's it from us today. have a great day. good morning. they cold easterly wind at the moment bringing in quite a bid of cloud across the uk and some showers. a number of rainbows this morning spotted by weather watchers, those showers continuing to feeding mainly across eastern parts of england, some showers stripped in westwards across the midlands, across wales, generally speaking the further west uart, some

sunny spells, much colder feel compared to today. maximum temperature 7—10d. 0vernight tonight, the showers heading in mainly across eastern areas, picking up mainly across eastern areas, picking upa mainly across eastern areas, picking up a touch through tonight, the showers drifting further west into tuesday. a frost free night, the strong wind staying temperatures above freezing, it will feel colder tomorrow with the strong easterly wind, some of the showers turning wintry over higher ground, sleet at lower levels from time to time. maximum temperatures by padding a degrees, with the strong easterly wind feeling colder than temperatures suggest. goodbye. you're watching bbc newsroom live with me joanna gosling at westminster. theresa may will tell business

leaders her brexit deal will curb eu migration — as she faces a week of further pressure on her leadership. the prime minister will speak at the the cbi conference shortly — they say her government's current immigration policies won't work for the economy. the eu's chief negotiator says the spotlight is now on the future relationship — when both sides will have control of their own rules. now more than ever, we must all remain calm, and i will remain calm, and keep our focus on the needs for the uk to leave the eu in an orderly fashion. and i'm rebecca jones, the other headlines at 11.