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tuesday in parliament. hello and welcome to tuesday in parliament. coming up in the next half hour, doubts over the man tipped to be the new interpol police chief. this is really quite an extraordinary situation to find ourselves with the possibility of notjust the fox in charge of the hen coop, but actually the assassin in charge of the murder investigation. a father shares his experience of trying to get educational support for his son. i was dealing with a very dysfunctional system of rationing, in which the central criterion was which parents could push the hardest. and how safe is your local post office? it survived two world wars, one global financial crash, why can't it survive eight years of tory government? all that to come, and more.
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but first, the government has been warned that the election of a russian candidate to lead interpol could leave the international policing organisation effectively a new branch of the russian mafia. the presidential election takes place on wednesday and follows the disappearance of meng hongwei, who resigned last month after being detained by chinese authorities on anti—corruption charges. one of the candidates to succeed him is alexander prokopchuk, who has served in russia's interior ministry since 2003. russia has been accused of abusing the agency's red notices. to detain opponents and restrict their ability to travel.
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the foreign office minister told mps that they were backing a rival candidate. we do not speculate on the outcome of the election but the uk supports the candidacy of the acting president, kim jong yang. but the liberal democrat leader and other mps wanted her to go further. would she not agree that if this russian gentleman were to become head of interpol, it would be an absolute insult to the victims of the salisbury attack? and will she explain how the government intends to pursue its own suit of red notices in russia with this gentleman in the post? would she not accept that if this gentleman were to succeed in his election, this would be a massive propaganda victory for the putin regime just ahead of a vote in the european union on fresh sanctions? would it, in effect, not amount to accepting that interpol has become, in effect, a branch of the russian mafia?
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and i use my words carefully when i say that. the minister said that the power lay with the german general council, not the president. he also raises the questions about the candidacy of the current vice president of the organisation. the uk, as i said in my opening remarks, will be supporting the candidacy of the acting vice president, kim jong yang. and we always seek to endorse candidates who have a history of observing standards of international behaviour. this is really quite an extraordinary situation, to find ourselves with not just the possibility of the fox in charge of the hen coop, but actually the assassin in charge of a murder investigation. this is a man who has corrupted the rule of law through the use of red notices, undermining the international order,
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trying to subvert interpol as an arm of his state propaganda network. this is truly extraordinary. will she join with me in saying that should this outcome happen, we will have to look very seriously, very seriously at our cooperation with an organisation so discredited and so corrupted? the fact that as the head of russia's national central bureau for the last seven years, the magor genral has directly led russia's abuse of interpol's international arrest warrant system to target government enemies and politics, is in itself enough to disqualify him in our view. and it is extremely concerning about the future functioning of interpol as a credible international organisation if he was to be elected to the presidency. so the minister of state says britain will be supporting an alternative candidate. but the question is, what diplomatic efforts will she be making in the next 24 hours before the vote, particularly in respect of our european and commonwealth counterparts to build
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a majority against the election of the russian candidate? there are a range of different factors. i made it clear what the uk's position is. of course, between the time when the previous president was — went back to china and the election tomorrow, the uk, through its diplomatic network, has been fully engaged in consulting with our allies in terms of this role. after the salisbury nerve agent attacks and the abuse of red notices by the kremlin, can ijust urge the government to recognise that the appointment of a putin appointed—general would not only weaken the operational effectiveness of interpol, but undermine our ability to rely on it and shred it credibility as a pillar upon the international rule of law? it might be the case that the man might be the candidate but let's not be under the illusion that it will be president putin calling
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the shots if he is successful at the general assembly. if he does become the president of interpol, does she not agree that it's notjust a slap in the face of this country and in particular to the people of salisbury, it's a slap in the face to the people of georgia, the people of ukraine, including eastern ukraine and crimea? it's a slap in the face to the civil society activists, opposition politicians and journalists in russia who have been hunted down by the putin regime. i don't think we believe that this election, any possible outcome of this election will have any impact on the issues that he rightly draws the house's attention to. but i will reiterate since he has raised them that we do continue to want to see the russian government come clean about its role in salisbury. we do want to see the russian government account for its use of novichok on british soil. the foreign office minister, harriet baldwin. now, the support system for children with disabilities and special needs in england's schools was overhauled four years ago. with the aim of giving families a greater say.
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the education committee is investigating whether it has improved the lives of parents and children. it heard that there's a continuing battle for resources, which put white, middle—class parents at advantage. we've noticed in the last two years, three years since the reforms, there's been a real spike in parents getting in touch with us, and i would say the majority are at the end of their tether, they come to us and then recount the most appalling experience of struggle, of fight, of battle, feeling embattled. and i think a lot of this revolves around the myth of parental choice. the idea that suddenly parents have choice and no one is thinking about the fact that the existing system doesn't allow that at all. and i think the problem is parents of disabled children and young people, including for us children, can have choice often, as long as it's the choice
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that the local authority and school or education provider wishes that child and that parent to have. therefore, that choice is there. but the minute the parent says they want something different particularly if they want a young person in mainstream with all the right support, parents are then often finding themselves isolated, labelled as difficult parents, unreasonable parents often. there is a public storm there in terms of schools struggling with league tables, struggling with funding, parents struggling to get the right support themselves and their young person, and yet still expected to talk about having choice and having a new aspiration for their children. around 250,000 children with complex teens now have an education health and care plan. a document setting out legally binding obligations for schools. the otheri million children identified as having special needs are supposed to be catered for by the school. i quite quickly understood
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the bigger picture was that i was dealing with a very dysfunctional system of rationing, in which the central criterion was which parents could push the hardest. and because i'm a reasonably well—educated, well resourced person, who can read nine pages of text and process information within two minutes, that's what i've been trained to do, i canjust about play the system successfully. and he thought the new system was failing too. you'll be faced with an almost impossible wall of paperwork. if you're well resourced enough to complete that paperwork, what happens in many cases, it happened in mine in the old system, which is always identical to now, is you then get a straight knee jerk refusal. there is absolutely no way that my son didn't require significant extra help
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at school, but we were told that he was not entitled to any. and then you end up and this goes on, in the somewhat heartbreaking situation of having to listen as a local authority tells you that your child cannot do x, y and z. very difficult for a parent. when they say he can't hold a pen, because you want to be optimistic and emphasise the positive. many parents are taking their local authorities to a tribunal. there is a class issue that people who are going to the tribunals are white and middle—class, and educated. there is an in—built problem in the system. and people can't fund them if they're low income. the tribunaljudges will always tell you that access to a tribunal is free and theoretically in law, it is. but we have seen this up upping the ante, you get a barrister... 0ne recommendation that i want to think about tribunals. what we are not getting out
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of the tribunal at the moment is any feedback at all. she said tribunals ought to provide a way of improving the service. and mps spent most of the day debating the finance bill, which implements much of the budget. tension was increased after the dup mps on whom theresa may relies to stay in power refused to support the government on some key elements of the bill. 0ne amendment was accepted by the government and put into the bill. you may remember ministers sending pressure announcing a written statement lastly that they would bring the change in april last time at next year. several mps challenged a pushback. tracy crouch resigned. she welcomed the decision. the government made the right decision. not least because it was proven that players of these machines have the highest rates of problem gambling and 32% of players
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are considered at harm. the review also found that those who are unemployed are more likely to most often stake £100 than any other socio—economic group. after her resignation, ministers agreed to bring in the maximum stake from £100 to £2. the government has organised a significant odd that fixed terminal betting can levy on individuals. the mental distress that the gambler can cause to the friends and family. this is why the government decided, having listened to the campaigning voices outside of parliament and a number of determined colleagues in this house, who i will return to in a moment, to cap the maximum stake of b2 machine games at £2. another campaigner against them said ministers should learn lessons. that the power of the backbenches
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cannot be ignored, that this house is fortunate to have so many members across all benches who are prepared to put principle before both profit and politics. the snp called for a review of the public health effects of gambling. only by gathering valid data from independent sources can the government take an evidence—based approach to gambling legislation and ensure that the industry can continue fulfilling their moral duty to promote safe gambling. by the government without a vote. and the snp suggestion and amendment to the finance bill was accepted by the government without a vote. you are watching tuesday in parliament with me david cornock. do not forget that if you miss our daily round—up, or you want to watch it again, you can catch up via the bbc iplayer. now if britain crashes out the eu without a deal, could it be 2008 all over again?
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ten years ago there were dramatic scenes on both sides of the atlantic. when several well—known banks either collapsed or had to be bailed out during a financial meltdown. well, the governer of the bank of england said that there is no chance of that happening again. he made the promise at the treasury committee. in the event of a no deal brexit should households and businesses be prepared for soft interest rate that rises on top of the... what they should expect is the following. that their financial system is there to serve them just as it is today and we will make sure that that is the case. the real action, the real issue as far as the real economy. it will be about how the logistics system works, where business confidence is, what access, if any, is there in a no deal no transition brexit. this is not the financial crisis market, round two. where the bank of england and other central banks were centrestage,
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this is a real economy shock and therefore, central banks have a role but we are more of a sideshow. it's ourjob to be prepared for the worse, we have gone into some detail of how we are doing that. and to provide for parliament any information for problem it relative to our mandate that is useful, we will do that. and i think the other thing that is important the governor stresses, whatever the outcome, people in the uk can have assurance that they will not see a financial second meltdown like the one they saw in 2008. there aren't too many facts known by too many organisations and companies. the government setting up a new centre for data ethics and innovation. aimed among other things, helping to prevent serious breaches of personal data. labour questioned the value
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of the new centre, but the minister said that today's open data society posed challenges, that information had to be used ethically. what are the ethical implications of using technology to be able to determine someone‘s likelihood of reoffending ? is it right to use a programme powered by al to make hiring decisions? and can it ever be right to have an algorithm influence who should be saved in a car accident? these are no longer questions of science fiction, but real questions that require clear and definitive answers where possible from policymakers. she said there was widespread support for these objectives of the centre of data ethics. to revise government on necessary policy and regulatory action and to empower industry through the best practise. in turn, we can build public trust in data—driven technologies and make the most of the opportunities they present to society. if this new centre is going to be a place that simply writes voluntary
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codes, publishes best practise, then frankly, it is not going to stop online hate speech, data breaches and it will not stop the risk of new algorithms coding old injustices into new injustices and inequalities. this centre nowjoins 12 other regulators and advisory bodies with some oversight of the internet. so mr speaker, we now have 13 different regulators and advisers looking over this space. the snp welcomes the announcement of the centre of ethics and innovation, in the age of data and tech firm power, it is vital that the users have confidence that their data is being used in an ethical manner. mps had examples of abusive data. a dating service, which optimises for short term relationships to ensure repeat business. taxi services that charges you more when your phone battery is going down, a recruitment service which prioritises men
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for higher pay vacancies. mr speaker, i welcome the centre, but with respect, these examples do not require ethical investigation. they require regulation and enforcement. does she not agree there are studies that suggest that 28% of jobs by young people could be lost to ai and that this is one of the most important challenges facing our nation and she we not have a royal commission to look at impact to regulate this? i can confirm the committee warmly welcomes the establishment of the centre, one of the issues that the consultation governors response did not really cover was whether it will have within its jurisdiction to advise on the need for clearly guidelines, for the sharing of public sector data so that the enormous data sets of the nhs and other public services can be shared for the benefit of the public but while maintaining trust.
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we used to have a policy of reducing the number of geegaws. which igor are we getting rid of two established this new one? i thank my honourable friend for his helpful question. this, i think, is in response to a new and growing need, which perhaps was not anticipated when we of course, established the policy to reduce overall the number of advisory bodies to the government. after all the excitement of last week, you're probably wondering about the latest developments on brexit. well, peers have been debating the draft withdrawal agreement agreed by the prime minister and the eu. what we have agreed last week is the draft treaty. which means that we will leave the eu in a smooth and orderly way on the 29th of march next year and it sets the framework for a future relationship that delivers in our national interests. it takes back control of our borders, our laws,
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our money, protectsjobs, the security and integrity of the united kingdom and my lords, it delivers in ways that many said simply could not be done. but a former conservative leader wonders about the insurance policy or backstop to avoid border checks in northern ireland. under the backstop provisions of the withdrawal agreement, the united kingdom can only leave with the consent of the european union, how can that be described as taking back control? there are mechanisms to bring the backstop to an end, but my honourable friend is right to say that there are mechanisms that need to be mutually agreed. the clock is ticking. the european parliament will disappear in april, but has to endorse the deal, business is desperate to know where we are heading and certainly
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they want to know that we are not facing no deal. a former ukip leader said that the way forward was obvious. we should stop negotiating with the european commission, whose only interest is to keep its project of european union afloat. and we should make an offer directly to the people of europe through the council of ministers. a church of england bishop said the brexit debate raised questions of honesty. to ask of honesty is not to accuse anyone of dishonesty, but we hear little or no acknowledgement of the polarisation of our people. a fracture that will neither be addressed nor healed by the repetition of mantras about the glorious future. labour mps have attacked the decision to increase the number of post offices run by the chain, w h smith. over 41 post offices are to be relocated into w h smith's stores, with 33 that have already been moved to be managed directly by the firm under a franchise agreement. in the commons, concerns were raised
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over the impact on jobs. 7a of the public post offices have been privatised without the permission of the public. w h smith are already advertising the part—time roles to take over post office counters while consultations for these jobs have yet to be completed. can the minister imagine what it must feel like to be under consultation for your job? facing possible redundancy, seeing it already advertised for someone else? will you intervene, call this practice out and call this out as matter of principle? thank you, mr speaker. and i'll highlight that the honourable minister has no crown post offices in his constituency. but the franchise is a part of those supporting the long—term sustainability of the 11 and a half thousand network of post offices
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that we have throughout this country to maintain that. but also as i have highlighted, there is reduction under the last labour government and we are committed to delivering on a post office and keeping the stores open. they are preventing constituent from providing various services. why is the government giving big business a sweetheart deal and preferential terms by offering, allowing them terms of preventing other post offices from having the same? mr speaker, i respect the honourable gentleman that he has issues in his own constituency with particular post offices but to set off a long—term sustainability programme for the post office against potential postmasters, is quite frankly wrong.
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and this is part of a sustainable programme so we, this government, can keep the 11 and a half thousand post offices open and also increased the pay for the post office workers are entitled to with longer hours, better locations and making sure that the post office workers earn more. there is not room to swing, i wonder how does management will look again and see the layout of the post office within retail businesses. thank you mr speaker, i do not note the honourable gentleman's particular setting that he is referring to, but i'll be more than happy to meet with them to discuss, so i can raise his concerns directly with the post office. for 134 years, the post office has been the anchor of our high street and community,
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it survived world wars, and a financial crash, why can it not survive eight years of tory government? as i've said repeatedly during these questions, we are not closing post offices and in her particular constituency, if she has a particular problem, i would like to hear about her individual case, we are not closing down post office is to make sure that we achieve and maintain 11 and a half thousand branches across the uk. and that debate brings us to the end of tuesday in parliament. thank you for watching and i'll be here at the same time tomorrow. goodbye for now. hello, good morning. as expected, tuesday was a really cold day, and it's been cold enoughjust
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recently to bring some sleet and snow to lower levels, even into the south—east of england. but on wednesday, the coldest air and the strongest winds will push northwards across scotland and northern ireland. so we should see some improvements further south. but we've got a cloudy start on wednesday morning. the wetter weather for northern ireland moving away from northern england, up into scotland. again, some sleet and some snow, particularly over the hills. but then we should see things brightening up, a few showers coming in as well. more detail in the afternoon. you can see the showers in the west country perhaps affecting east wales and the west midlands. for eastern england this time, some welcome sunshine, much drier weather as well. and that sunshine may develop through the afternoon later on into southern parts of scotland. northern ireland still stays quite wet, frequent showers around here, quite wet for central and northern parts of scotland, some more sleet and snow, mainly over the hills. quite windy across scotland,
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gusts of 40mph around some of those eastern coasts, so if anything, it's going to feel colder than it did on tuesday for scotland and northern ireland, especially with the strong winds and rain, but it shouldn't feel quite as cold as it did on tuesday for england and wales, especially if you've got some sunshine and the winds are not as strong as well. but the wet weather will tend to clear away for most areas during wednesday evening, and that means clearer skies, that means tumbling temperatures, before we see cloud coming in off the north sea, bringing with it some drizzle, arresting the temperature fall, but further west with clearer skies, frost likely and maybe some icy patches. some early sunshine perhaps across northern ireland, into wales and western scotland. maybe some sunshine developing at times across southern counties of england, but elsewhere, cloudy, a little bit damp with some wetter weather pushing back into eastern scotland, seven degrees if you're lucky here. eight or nine, i think, will be fairly typical elsewhere. another chilly sort of day. the threat of rain coming into the far south—west with this area of low pressure. higher pressure to the north of the uk, hence this east
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to south—easterly breeze, not particularly strong on friday. a nothing sort of day on friday. not much sunshine, a fair bit of crowd, most places will be dry, showers more likely in the south—west, and wetter weather again coming into eastern parts of scotland. those temperatures getting up to eight, nine, possibly even the heady heights of 10 degrees, so the temperatures are going the right way. the air is getting a bit less cold as it comes in from the south, but still not particularly warm if you're stuck under the cloud and some pockets of rain. a very warm welcome to bbc news — broadcasting to our viewers in north america and around the globe. my name's mike embley. our top stories: american interests first. president trump says he'll stand by saudi arabia, despite the killing of the journalist, jamal khashoggi. we also need a counterbalance and israel needs help also. if we abandon saudi arabia, it would be a terrible mistake. the president's lawyer says he's given "unprecedented" co—operation to the inquiry into whether the trump election team
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