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entered 20 where she entered 20 points ahead in the polls and had a difficult campaign. she is relishing putting this out there, and as well as having nothing to lose, we will come to this a second, but there doesn't appear to be to this a second, but there doesn't appearto be any to this a second, but there doesn't appear to be any alternative to her on the table. there was no vote on whether or to accept the withdrawal agreement, it was passed unanimously and discussed for less than 40 minutes among the european council. if you are the european commission, thatis if you are the european commission, that is a big win for you. every nation is signing off on this 585 page agreement with a lot of detail. we will always end up with a very british compromises. no one will be happy because everyone will get less than what they want. by the way, i have not seen any poll numbers showing labour jumping ahead, telling us that people think the prime minister has done a terrible job here. let's pick this up, because you mentioned it, theresa may seeks corbyn tv debate on deal. as pa rt of may seeks corbyn tv debate on deal. as part of this two week mini election campaign she would like to get on tv and debate all this with jeremy corbyn, presumably in the hope that it will expose labour in
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the same way that pressure has been on the conservative party. very effectively smoking perhaps not idea out of its cave. we have seen some excitement along the dispatch boxes and jeremy corbyn calling this a blind brexit but effectively this is theresa may's invitation to say what is your solution. it has been presented and signed off, the ball has rolled down the hill to a certain extent. we are nearly at the end game, butjeremy corbyn is now being invited... he has been almost deafening in his silence over the last few months. as recently as last week, when asked about the possibility of even something as basic as the second people's vote, he said that was a question for another day. what other day is that? after election day, after a vote of no—confidence? what day out of the next remaining days is he referring to? he will have to once some of those. there are so many of those questions he should be required to answer. we were hearing that labour
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are ina answer. we were hearing that labour are in a position now where they say they will oppose the deal but would also block any kind of no deal option. we are hearing that as well from the s&p, that they don't want no deal —— snp. are they banking on the theory that no one will have the stomach for a no deal? no, they are banking on a series of fantasies of removing the prime minister and putting borisjohnson in charge to change the weather in brussels. you can have a no—confidence vote in theresa may tomorrow and she continues to be prime minister until there is a new tory leader and they will not be a coronation in the tory party because the tory party is fundamentally split on these issues. that entails a one month or two—month campaign for the tory leadership while theresa may stays in downing street and continues to do what she can to get the deal through. in 2017, theresa may did not want to have a televised debate during the general election. she didn't want to be seen giving jeremy corbyn the oxygen of publicity and
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putting him on a par with the prime minister. it is getting him into a situation in saying you don't like my deal, what is your deal? we are leaving injust 100 my deal, what is your deal? we are leaving injust100 days, what have you got? what will you go away and negotiate with the eu in less than three months? is that nothing? you can talk all you like about what you would like to have had, and it is the same for the eurosceptics in her party. you can talk about what you would like to have had, and quite strange given that some of the most senior eurosceptics in government we re senior eurosceptics in government were in the party for years and didn't raise a peep about it before. theresa may saying i am going in this direction, where are you going? none of her critics seem to have an answer to that although we are coming to one of the floated options. it is interesting that regardless of what brussels are saying, even in this article in the telegraph, we are still hearing quotes from people like iain duncan smith saying the deal must be challenged, there is a third way. we have heard from jean—claude juncker,
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this is not an option. no, as you say, as well as iain duncan smith, we have arlene foster and others saying no deal is better than this. for months they have been saying the reverse. there are voices clamouring from both sides. the likes of andrea leadsom still thinking perhaps about resigning, i leadsom still thinking perhaps about resigning, lam not leadsom still thinking perhaps about resigning, i am not sure what another resignation would do at this stage. but yes, the deal is now in its box, on the table, what are they going to do with it? you mentioned the sun, a picture of the french president, macron gloating. what has he been saying? the sun has taken against the prime minister's deal. call it a desperate campaign, so they have very much taken a position on it. i think what they are doing
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is they are confusing electioneering. .. the is they are confusing electioneering... the french president is at a historic low in the polls. things are not going well in france, so it is not that unusual that he might do a bit of sabre rattling about how we want this or that. the point is that the withdrawal agreement, that has been signed off by 27 countries. there area signed off by 27 countries. there are a lot more stages to go with this. the next stage is to discuss what the future relationship will look like, and he is making noises about fishing rights. although it is about fishing rights. although it is a tiny part of the uk's gdp, it has an outsized symbolic role in the brexit negotiations. more interesting than that on the inside pages, they are talking about ministers planning what to do if the vote goes against the prime minister and she can't get it through the house of commons. because obviously if there was no deal some sort of new arrangement would have to come about. this is about european to make britainjoining about. this is about european to make britain joining the about. this is about european to make britainjoining the european free trade association. i am not sure if we are a member of that or
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if we would need to join —— sure if we are a member of that or if we would need tojoin —— britain joining the european free trade agreement. this is basically a trade body which is like being in the eu but you are not in the eu and you have no say over the rules. this has been pitched by some tories as a solution, i am been pitched by some tories as a solution, lam not been pitched by some tories as a solution, i am not sure if theresa may will accept that, and whether she willjust resign and say i will hold on and try and see what i can salvage, bring it back to parliament and see if she can get it through again. they also have an interesting graphic where they show us all the numbers. all the possible ways she could lose the vote. all the possible way she can lose the vote. that is the point of the whole pr blitz you will see from the prime minister. she will try to convey the mps minister. she will try to convey the mp5 from all parties that this is the only deal in town and perhaps hope that their constituents will put pressure on the move forward. obviously there are elements of this such as the backstop which is to do with the northern ireland border,
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and there are aspects which are deeply uncomfortable. my position is that any deal you brought back from brussels will have things that people will be uncomfortable with, principally because the leave campaign was based on a series of things that we now say in retrospect were basically unachievable. leave campaign is worth saying this is the easiest trade deal in history, and it is difficult to get to this stage. we must move on, the guardian also doing brexit. looking at the top, a faulty implant scandal. this isa top, a faulty implant scandal. this is a combined investigation between various journalistic bodies, the guardian, the bbc and other investigative reporters. tell us what this is about. we have heard this from time to time, this kind of mass scandal. it has been lost in this brexit campaigning but it is a huge investigation which has taken place across the atlantic, both the uk and the us, participated in by the guardian and the bbcjoining the resources together, and it is a
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tribute to hefty, in—depth, long—term investigativejournalism, which we don't see enough of, so a quick doff of the cap to that. they have discovered a whole range of different medical implants have got as far as different medical implants have got as faras human different medical implants have got as far as human insertion, and it has now transpired that many of them have failed tests upstream in terms of, i don't know, leakage, chemical imbalances, all sorts of things. the first thing we should say is that the surgeons... we don't know to what extent they are responsible because it is all to do with registers. as in regulatory bodies who signed off on these things and they appear in hospitals, saying thatis they appear in hospitals, saying that is fine, you can use that. you can save someone's life with that. the problem is they have been 1004 resulting in death, so this is no small story. we will be hearing more about it over the weeks as people respond to it. has you were saying, the interesting thing is the scale of this investigation across 36 countries, in some cases it is a
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failure of not collecting data from all surgeons across the world or from all less than positive outcomes and having them on a central database. it and having them on a central data base. it may lead and having them on a central database. it may lead to some reforms. we have only got a minute left but we can't go without touching on i'm a celebrity, and noel edmonds playing the role of agony uncle, and people don't like it as emperor noel enters the jungle. this will be a turnaround if he comes the jolly uncle type. one of the great charms of the programme is these unlikely alliances, and emily is a young comedic actress and screams a lot, i can inform you, and is afraid of heights, which is why she was the one that got thrown out ofa she was the one that got thrown out of a helicopter in the first show. this is yet another chapter in knole edmonds's rollercoaster of a career
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—— noel edmonds, and he is making every bit of whether he can out of it. which are big -- wichetty every bit of whether he can out of it. which are big —— wichetty grabs your kind of thing? that's it for the papers tonight. don't forget you can see the front pages of the papers online on the bbc news website. it's all there for you 7 days a week at bbc.co.uk/papers and if you miss the programme any evening you can watch it later on bbc iplayer. thank you tony and caroline. goodbye. next, yalda hakim talks to senator john mccain's widow cindy mccain about her husband's legacy and what he would make of the current divisions in america. this past august, america lost one of its great statesman. senatorjohn mccain was a war hero, a presidential candidate and a husband. i sat down with his widow, cindy mccain, here at the halifax international forum in nova scotia. senatorjohn mccain led the delegation here for years
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and now cindy mccain is continuing his work through the mccain institute. i asked her about his legacy and what he would of thought about divisions in america and what it was like to be married to a true maverick. lam good. —— it has been two months since the senator passed. how are you? lam good. it is a day by day thing for me. some days are good, some are not. but he wouldn't want me to be anything but strong. so i live by that now. during the week of his passing, you carried yourself with such extraordinary poise and grace. it really captured that moment. i think both in the united states and internationally. well, i did what i hoped john would be proud of and that was to at least remain strong and be strong for my children.
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i appreciate your words about that, for me it was just what it was and who am i guess. the only way to describe it. when the news came of his passing, there was this extraordinary bipartisan outpouring. why do you think the nation reacted in that way? john was truly the conscience of the senate and i think in many ways the conscience of the country. people recognised him for his ability to work across the aisle and his belief in working across the aisle. and also his willingness to debate but not demean as a result of differences. so, i think we have lost... i believe we have lost those ideals forever right now. if that makes sense. he represented so much to the country and i'm hoping
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that we swing back and begin to realise really the importance of doing whatjohn did. many people said that it wasn'tjust like a president had died. it was like a great president had died. and that stopped the nation at that moment. yet, the president was not there. can you tell me about the decision behind having him not there? was that the senator's call? was that the family's call? well, you have to remember even though it was a very public funeral, we are still a family. for all of us and for the sake of my own children, i didn't want any disruption. this was aboutjohn. not about anything else. it was important to me that we kept it respectful and calm and not politicize it. it sounds funny coming from a political family in a political country, but it was important we kept it with dignity so i didn't want
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the hoopla that came with that. what did it tell you about that moment, because there seems to be this deep yearning for a kind of leadership and statesmanship that senator mccain really represented ? our country right now, it is in a little bit of disarray. i am the first one to tell you we will remain strong and free and democratic and all of the ideals that we believe in, but we have our problems right now. john would be the first to say that. i think people hopefully will learn from him and throughout this and i hope that the president learns from him. when you do see one of the president's tweets, what do you think? some days it is fine. i wish the president would take more time in commenting or answering or asking. but i would say that to any of our other leaders as well. at this point in time, how does america get out of this
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hate and toxic environment? i think it takes all of us. you have to change the narrative. i think you are seeing that. i think you saw that in this election process somewhat. it is about changing the narrative and also about taking a breath and stepping back. let's remind each other and talk to each other and disagree with each other in a civil tone. john mccain stood for a certain approach to the world. he was morally self—confident. john had an unwavering moral compass. that was in large part due to his experience,

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