hello, it's tuesday, it's 10 o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire. good morning. ‘devastated' ‘bitter‘ and ‘angry‘ — that's how this former team gb athletics captain describes missing out on five years of his professional career after having hernia mesh surgery. dai greene is a world champion hurdler, and was told he'd be back competing six weeks after his operation. he wasn't. he's here for his first broadcast interview on the mesh implants which robbed him of part of his career. police are facing an "intolerable burden", responding to mental health—related emergencies. in london, police receive a call about a mental health concern once every four minutes. we speak to marcia rigg, whose brother died in police custody. we need action. we don't need shoptalk. people are dying in custody. and sex work in britain in 2018. this programme reveals that women are selling explicit images

of themselves on snapchat — an app used by children as young as 13. this woman says she makes £4,000 a month. well, it's like a proper business. it's like people that sing or they go and gig, or artists that go and sell their own paintings. i'm just selling pictures and videos of me! we'll bring you the story at 10:20. hello. welcome to the programme. we're live until 11 this morning. snapchat — now being used by women and men to sell sexually explicit photos and videos of themselves from the privacy of their own bedroom. two questions — firstly, do you use the app for that reason? and secondly, as a parent, how do you know what your children are potentially accessing on snapchat?

use the hashtag victoria live. email victoria@bbc.co.uk. we will feed your experiences group conversations this morning. here's annita, with a summary of the day's news. good morning. the prime minister is battling fresh criticism of her brexit vision, this time from the us, as she continues a nationwide push to get the withdrawal plan accepted. president donald trump last night said the agreement could threaten future us uk trade steel, but that has been dismissed by number 10 which insists the uk will have an independent trade policy. theresa may is visiting wales and northern ireland today as she tries to sell the benefits of her deal. she has already confirmed she a televised debate withjeremy corbyn ahead of the commons vote on the deal on december 11. this morning, the former defence secretary michael fallon expressed strong doubt it would get past mps. my

would get past mps. my beer is this dealjust gives us the worst of all worlds. no guarantee of smooth trade in the future and no ability to reduce the ta riffs future and no ability to reduce the tariffs that we need to conclude trade deals with the rest of the world. so unless the commons i think can be persuaded somehow that those things are possible, yes, then i think the deal is doomed. the british academic matthew hedges has arrived back in the uk this morning after receiving a pardoned following his conviction for spain in the united arab emirates. mr hedges has a lwa ys united arab emirates. mr hedges has always denied the charge and said he was having out to —— research for his ph.d., he banged for an office and pay tribute to his wife daniela, saying she was brave and strong —— banked. and into rubble burden has been placed on police forces in england and wales because of a national crisis in mental health ca re national crisis in mental health care watchdog has warned. the inspectorate of constabulary said officers were left to pick up the pieces and respond to tens of thousands of incidents that should be handled by mental health workers.

the home office said it was in —— investing in services and praised police leadership. thousands of cancer patients are dying unnecessarily each year under the nhs in england. the health foundation which campaigns for better treatment says more needs to better treatment says more needs to be done to close the gap in survival rates between the uk and other countries. the government says improving cancer care is a priority for the extra funding already announced for the —— for the nhs. women with academic degrees are better off financially in the first few years of work than men according to research. the institute for fiscal studies looked at graduate pay and found by the age of 29, women with a degree and 28% more than women who have not been to university. for men, that france is 8%. the type of university and subject also had a significant influence on salary. tributes have been paid to the world war ii code—breaker and long serving conservative peer baroness trumpington, who died at the age of

96. she sat in the house of lords for 37 years, becoming infamous. you up for 37 years, becoming infamous. you up to fingers to a colleague in 2011 and served under two prime ministers. international development secretary penny mordaunt described her as a trailblazer, a heroin and a lot of joy. and that is a summary of the main news this morning. thank you very much. we will talk about sex working 2018 and many are using select chat to sell sexually explicit images of themselves. snapchat says it is not illegal. eric on twitter says: "if someone wants to do it their choice, as long as no coercion. why should we police what people want to do that harms no—one?" adam on twitter: "there is a hidden side to the teen boom in social media use and we have to be aware of it." do get in touch with us throughout the morning — do use snapchat by selling

explicitly —— explicit photos or videos of yourself. and how'd you know what the children are accessing, how are you across that? let me know this morning. if you are e—mailing and want to take part in the programme, include your phone number in your message. if you text, you'll be charged at the standard network rate. one of britain's leading athletes missed out on an entire 0lympic cycle after suffering serious complications from mesh implants that he had to repair a minor hernia. dai greene, a world champion hurdler who captained the great britain athletics team at the 2012 london olympics, lost five years of his career after the surgery, which he was told would allow him to return to the track within weeks. he's told this programme that he found these complications "soul destroying". dai greene is here. we'll talk to him in a moment, in his first broadcast interview

about his experience with hernia mesh. on this programme, we've been covering the mesh implants story for almost two years. 0ur reporter, anna collinson, is with us now and can tell us more. anna, bring us up to date. good morning. we have covered this for a long time and we looked into it because we exposed the regina or mesh scandal and in the wake of the report, we got dozens of messages from people who said they had experienced the same symptoms of the women in that report, difficulties walking, chronic pain, unable to have sex. the difference was the mesh was in a different part of their body street hernia. we have done a lot of work and in september, we revealed that 95,000 hernia mesh operations in england alone. the complication rate is much debated, leading surgeons say it is between 12 and 30%. if you take that, that

means up 12 and 30%. if you take that, that means up to 28,000 patients a year could be experiencing complications. in september, we heard from david ellis who had a hernia mesh repair and he experienced chronic pain and has difficulty walking and it got so bad points he has considered taking own life. the life that i knew has gone. i can't even sleep properly. i used to sleep on my front — three hours a night if i'm lucky now. i regularly take pills. i have to — to function. yeah, it's not something that you would choose for yourself. so, that's why. .. that's how i feel. and, yeah, i have so many times come close to ending it because of the pain. how convinced are you that it's the mesh that is causing all these problems? i'm100%. i don't ever think i will

get my life back, but i want to be better than i am — with it in me. that's not going to happen. the medical device industry has been talked about. there has been a global investigating including hundreds of journalists from global investigating including hundreds ofjournalists from the guardian and panorama included looking at the damage caused by fa u lty looking at the damage caused by faulty products, covering products including pacemakers, breast implants, and the medical device industry is worth billions of pounds. it is also important to point out for many, these devices can transform lives. this investigation has pointed out several areas of concern. weak regulation and testing. they found devices which have been passed out being tested on dead bodies and pics. and doctors not being informed

about the risks that they cannot inform patients and are not able to spot warning signs. what do experts believe needs to happen to improve the safety of these medical devices? they have called for drastic change command but one of the main areas is looking at how they are monitored. if we take a hernia mesh repairs, we have spoken to hundreds of patients and they often say they experience chronic pain as they go to adopt a surgeon chronic pain as they go to adopt a surgeon and they are given pain medication or sent a pain clinic and they go home and suffer in silence, no record is taken and it means the medical community has no way to know the scale of the problem. we put this to a spokesperson on our programme in october and she said it would be logicalfor a registerfor hernia mesh and the royal college of surgeons has taken that one step further and says there should be a register for all devices. so some sort of database, we will see what happens, thank you. let's talk to world champion hurdler dai greene

about his experience with hernia mesh. thank you for talking to us in your first broadcast interview. you had just captained the gb athletics team for the 2012 london olympics. you first realised you needed a hernia operation — what kind of an operation did you think that was? i had had a knee operation and made a fast recovery. i have doctors ran the 60s a week. so to have the surgery the 60s a week. so to have the surgery would not be a big deal. lots of athletes have them during theircareerand it was lots of athletes have them during their career and it was sold as having three weeks of no running and six to eight weeks and you would be back fully training and would not know you have had surgery, that is how it was sold to me. did anyone talk to you about the side effects and potential risks of having a hernia mesh implant?” and potential risks of having a hernia mesh implant? i cannot remember much about the downsides, you want to hear about the positive

things happening. i certainly did not think it was as dangerous as it has turned out for myself. you don't get hold of the convocation is, i don't think. big baby examples of other athletes in the past that had gone through the same process with the same implants —— they told me examples. but not for me. how long after the operation did you think, this doesn't feel right?|j after the operation did you think, this doesn't feel right? i had the operation in around march 2013 and by the end of the summer, august, was ina by the end of the summer, august, was in a lot of pain in my groin. and i knew that something wasn't right. and reporting that to my doctors and physios, i was sent for another hernia repair because they thought the hernia had not fully been repaired and they want to repair ita been repaired and they want to repair it a different way. can you describe the pain and what impact it was having a new? it was getting sharp, sharp pains up my legs and my lower abdomen. at its worst point,

it would just come on during simple activation exercises, not even sprinting or running, but when i was contracting muscles, and was getting pain and irritation ending down to get something and squatting down. that sort of thing. was it affecting you hear or not? did you think you needed more surgery and you would be buying? i assumed i had been unlucky and this was going to be resolved. you always assume the best. in athletics, you have to believe you can get to the top of the ladder. you think, will have the surgery and make my progress and get back and be better than i was before. you don't think about the negative impact on the long—term impact it could have as well. tell the audience how many surgeries you have had. so, i had three surgeries that year. the first was both sides, mesh fitted, october time, i had the hernia fixed another way as it were. two weeks after

that, i knewl way as it were. two weeks after that, i knew i still had the pain so the third surgery that year was to see a german doctor to go in and look at the implants and she felt it necessary to pull out the mesh and to some year a different way and to snip the nerve which was tangled in the mesh causing my pain. every time i moved, nerve was touching the mesh which touched me and cause a lot of pain andl which touched me and cause a lot of pain and i had another surgery 18 months after that. in the summer of 2015, the other side failed and so i had the same processed and again some four in total. that meant you have missed out on about half of what your career could have been, five years when you could have been competing, you were in this pain and trying to have this sorted. when you reflect on that and you look back, how does that make you feel? in athletics, you have a finite time you can compete in your career. i was one of the best in the world for

three or four years leading up to that point and ijust fell off the radar for four or five years and you don't realise how much time goes by, you just try and focus on overcoming the problems you have. but the knock—on effects of the surgery physically was difficult to overcome andl physically was difficult to overcome and i am not back to that level. i try not to think about it too much, it does make me bitter and frustrated and i cannot allow myself to be overcome by those emotions when i am trying to compete and i wa nt when i am trying to compete and i want to get back. are you angry? yes, i want to get back. are you angry? yes, lam want to get back. are you angry? yes, i am frustrated. and want to get back. are you angry? yes, lam frustrated. and no want to get back. are you angry? yes, i am frustrated. and no point was i given this sort of warning that this could be the potential fallout. i put my faith in people and sadly, that wasn't to be. just very frustrated. i try not to think about it too much because it will consume me ifi about it too much because it will consume me if i let it. about it too much because it will consume me ifi let it. yes. so, what does the future hold in terms of competing at the top level?” probably have two, three years left

in my career. i am 32 now and people retire around 35. i am still enjoying what i'm doing although i am not at the level, i made some progress last year and hopefully i can hit higher heights again year. it takes time to get fit so you might have a good year but you have to build it for the following season. we will see her next season goes but if i am not competing at a high enough level, i will not enjoy it as much either and i don't want to compete as a shadow of what i can be. so you would consider retirement? yes, it is not far away anyway. i do enjoy training, but at the same time, the end goal is to compete and to be competitive during the summeron an compete and to be competitive during the summer on an international stage. if i am not that competitive, it is not something i want is you too much longer. how do you feel that about the fact you were not told about the potential risks?m was very frustrating, i spoke to somebody from the guardian recently.

i cannot believe how many people have been affected by it and little information there is for people post surgery. information there is for people post surgery. at the time, i was told, you are weak, you need to strengthen up, which is the worst thing to hear from the support staff. i know i have been doing the work and i am not weak, was one —— and was one of the best in the world and know you are telling me i am not fit for purpose. just frustrating really and you cannot imagine the difficulty when you see people competing and you are just on the sidelines and i probably picked up a reputation of being injury prone after that through no fault on my own i don't believe. did anybody talk about other ways the hernia could be repaired, othertechniques? other ways the hernia could be repaired, other techniques? the only timel repaired, other techniques? the only time i found out about other techniques was when i was sent to other surgeons after and the surgeon i saw was close to retiring initially and they were keen to get me to see him before he retired. stories of current athletes who had been to see him and they had had

successful surgeries. not any complications afterwards. yes, just did not work out for me. one thing i would say is that since my experience, british athletics do not send anybody to have implants for hernia repairs so they have changed how they, where they send people because of my situation. would you back calls for a database so that people can report that outcomes so there is some kind of record of what is happening to mesh when it is put inside people? yes, it seems foolish there is not. talking about the percentages of people who have babies and report pain and problems, i would assume it would be 1% or thereabouts, you think it would not affect many people and it would be really low, but it is nearly one in three in some cases which is pretty bad. i would three in some cases which is pretty bad. iwould not three in some cases which is pretty bad. i would not have signed up for it ifi bad. i would not have signed up for it if i had known the percentages we re it if i had known the percentages were that way. thank you very much for talking about it, i really

appreciated, thank you, and it will meana appreciated, thank you, and it will mean a lot to our audience because there will be people out there who have had the same as you but think it could never happen to a top british athlete. so it is good you are speaking out. thank you very much. dai greene. still to come... we've discovered that women are selling explicit images on snapchat by charging users to follow them. this woman tells us why she does it. well, it's like a proper business. it's like people that sing, or they go and gig, or artists that go and sell their own paintings. i'm just selling pictures and videos of me! that is in the next few minutes. a former cabinet minister and defence secretary, sir michel fallon, has said he'll vote against theresa may's brexit deal because it offers no guarantees about britain's ability to strike trade deals around the world. theresa may has just two weeks to persuade mps to vote for her brexit deal in the house of commons. let's speak to norman smith, at westminster.

what has michael fallon said today? sir michael fallon matters in the row over brexit because he has not been part of any particular brexit camp. he is viewed as a very senior, ultra—loyal key theresa may supporter. yet this morning, we went out and really pretty much put the kibosh on mrs may's deal, saying it was doomed and the worst of all worlds, a bad deal, she needs to go back and get a better deal. and what added to the damage is, he was asked, if the deal is doomed, it is mrs may doomed? his reply was, well, thatis mrs may doomed? his reply was, well, that is up to my colleagues. he was asked, that does not sound like much ofan asked, that does not sound like much of an endorsement and he said, well, ta ke of an endorsement and he said, well, take it as you want. this matters because mrs may is really scrabbling around now to amass the necessary support to get a deal through and

all the signs are that she is not making any headway with the solid block of brexiteers on her own backbenches determined to vote against it and no sign really labour mps are getting on board, and you get this weather vane figure of sir michael fallon who is not in any camp saying, the deal is doomed and in effect, by the way, mrs may could be doomed as well. so it really is deeply wounding. and you just have to say, you know, everything seems to say, you know, everything seems to be running against mrs may at the moment. her hopes of trying somehow to win round mps, there is really no sign of it working at the moment. what about the brexit tv debate between the prime minister and jeremy corbyn, is it going to happen? i would say it is in the balance, to be honest. number 10 wa nted balance, to be honest. number 10 wanted to be happening and in a way, it it is desperate times mean desperate measures. by and large, it you are in pole position, you don't wa nt you are in pole position, you don't want a tv debate because you are

risking everything. you talking about putting mrs may againstjeremy corbyn because they say mrs may is the main person arguing for the deal and jeremy corbyn is the main person arguing against the deal. a lot of brexiteers say, hang on, both these quys brexiteers say, hang on, both these guys backed remain so who is remaining —— who is arguing for brexit? brexiteers want to be part of the debate. those campaigning for another referendum, the people's vote, said the idea of a second referendum is a big part of this debate, we want to be part of the debate. the scottish nationalists says scotland has a distinct view on brexit, we want to be part of it. there is a cluster of people now demanding they should have a place at the podium. so it is going to be tricky technically for the broadcasters to come up with a package which satisfies all camps. but i think it is indicative that mrs may, who dodged the debate at the general election, is saying,

yes, iam the general election, is saying, yes, i am happy to have the debate. that probably points to just how difficult the situation she is now in. thank you very much. and thank you for your messages about the interview with dai greene, world champion hurdle, telling us he backs calls for a hernia mesh database to track the outcome of such surgery. and he told us british athletics stopped its athletes from having hernia mesh implants because of what happened to him, i:e., he was robbed of half of his career because of mesh surgery. rob says, i had a hernia operation debris 2017 and like dai greene, i was told i could go back to cycling. i am a keen cyclist. i have not been able to cycle since the operation because i was in constant pain and i went back to the doctors and the surgeon and was given painkillers. and to the point injections, which aggravated it more. i was sent back to the surgeon it more. i was sent back to the surgeon again in august this year and had to go for surgery again to

remove damaged nerves which has now left me with constant tenderness. thank you for that. get in touch with your own messages. norfolk life on twitter says, i saw dai greene today, i am always relieved i did not operate —— go for a hernia mesh and went for an alternative. scary stuff and highlighting this is so important for the future. thank you for those. this programme has discovered that snapchat is being used to sell sexually explicit images and videos. snapchat is used by children as young as 13, or younger, and the vast majority of its hundreds of millions of global users are under 35. one woman tells us she makes £4,000 a month as a so—called "snapchat premium girl". 0ur reporter, james waterhouse, has been investigating. tell us more, james. this is seen as one of the latest

styles of sex work. premium snapchat isn't a part of the app itself, it's a hashtag. how it works is that people advertise their services on other platfoms like twitter and instagram using a hashtag, and direct users to their personal snapchat accounts. from there a bank transfer takes place, and then they're allowed to follow and then receive sexually eplicit content. the people that do it see this as a safer kind of sex work, because it's broadcast on their terms — there's no live streaming or directly dealing with customers. is it illegal? broadly speaking, no — unless the content is directly sold to under 18s, or if the material is especially depraved. that said, it's completely unregulated, there are no ways of telling if children end up viewing it or not, and there are no safeguards for the people putting this out. we went to meetjodie

and makes £4,000 a month doing it. a small warning — jodie talks a bit about some of the explicit work she does. it's like a proper business. it's like people that sing or they go and gig or artists that sell their own paintings. i'm just selling pictures and videos of me. earning by sharing. this isjodie, one of the many people taking advantage of social media to make money. a little moan at the end. £1,080 in one week. for a monthly fee of between £5 and £200, she sends subscribers sexually explicit photos and videos via the snapchat app, using the hash tag premium snapchat to advertise her service on other platforms to attract new clients. but while the money may be appealing and jodie says she earns around £4,000 a month, it's not without a personal cost. my friend will say, "how did filming go?" and then i'll say, "great," but then i got this message and then i'll break down. for those not aware, snapchat lets you send pics or videos — maybe with a filter

if that's your thing, and then they're are deleted after a few seconds. but it's fair to say it's often used to send things you probably wouldn't send your nan. but many — thousands, in fact — are cashing in, doing just that. so, people message me on instagram or facebook or snapchat, 0k? i will send them the information and the pricelist. they'll then send me their money. i'll add them to the premium snapchat. i'll log on four to five times a week for 30 minutes to an hour, to two hours, send them content for them to enjoy and then at the end of the month, i'll say, "do you want to be removed or do you want to pay again for another month?" through using the hashtag on their other social media profiles, users can direct people to their snapchat accounts to, in their words, see more. 0n instagram alone, there are more than 100,000 posts promoting it. i can log on anywhere in the world, i can still travel, go on holiday, i can go and film and then log on at night

after filming. jodie's been doing this for eight months now and first started thinking about it after appearing on itv‘s take me out a couple of years ago. from then, i had like men message me. at first, i was like, "oh, no," just blocked them because it was a bit creepy — like, their messages. they wanted me to send them underwear and stuff like that. and then i found that going from filming, doing something i loved, to going back to an office and being told off for talking in—between phone calls and stuff in an office, i thought, "do you know what? why don't i just actually try saying yes to some of these requests?" let's talk consequences. you've just showm me there that guys save to their camera roll if they pay for it. yeah. how can you honestly say you know where this content ends up? honestly, i don't, and i can't say. you can't control everything. i'm just doing what's best for me at this moment in time. so, you wouldn't mind, in ten years' time, these are put on the table in front of you — you can live with that? you see, this is why my

family worry about me. my thing is, and i was going to say my problem is, but i don't see it as a problem, this is just the way i am. i don't think about the consequences because i think life's too short. like, i'd never do porn, or i'd never do... i've been offered to do web cam modelling and even that, i worry about, because it's live. with snapchat i can just record something, if i don't like it, i can delete it. but there have been immediate consequences forjodie. she gets daily messages of abuse online and endless demands from her customers. i've just had an interesting message for you all. i'vejust had one from a random man, saying, "but you are a ho though. you're gorgeous, don't get me wrong, but shame you sell your body or pictures, no morals unfortunately in this world." but then i act fine about it, but then tonight, like, my friend will say, "how did filming go?" and then i'll say, "great, but then i got this message," and i'll break down.

so i say it doesn't affect me but, really, it does. is it worth it? you know, i can't win because i was miserable there and then i do this and i love the money, but then i also get this hate. whilejodie says she gets her clients to prove they are over 18, there's no real way of knowing who is going to end up watching her content. so, is it purely about the money for you? it doesn't sound like it makes you totally happy. yeah, i think i'm very honest and it's fair to say that it doesn't make me 100% happy doing what i'm doing, but it's fair to say that the money makes me happiest than i've ever been because i can afford to eat. like, my family members used to have to bag me up tins of food for me to eat because i couldn't afford it even though i worked two jobs. ijust always had more outgoings than incomings. but now, like, i've got more incoming than outgoings. what do snapchat say? they are not

happy about it but because they are doing it on private messaging they don't know about it unless they are directly reported to them. we also showed our findings to directly reported to them. we also showed ourfindings to instagram and asa showed ourfindings to instagram and as a consequence they have banned the hashtag as well as any related ones because they don't want people advertising on their platform. but new ones have already sprung up. yes, ministers are hoping to bring in new laws to make social media safer. they are still hoping to bring out age verification technology for pawn websites but that does not extend to social media but it's been delayed because it so difficult to regulator paws regulate. i have some messages asking for similar things, let's talk about this, about whether this way of making money is safe for those selling videos and images. catherine stephens is from

the international union of sex workers, josh smith from an organisation called demos, which studies the impact digital technology has on our lives, and in exeter is laura higgins, who founded the revenge porn helpline charity. first of all, what do you think of women selling sexually explicit photos and videos of themselves via social media? and some men of course. whenever a new technology is being developed it's been used to distribute sexually explicit imagery from the invention of the printing press onwards. what we need to see is a regulatory framework that is effective, is established in consultation with people in the industry because unless you do that it won't actually work. two parents who are worried about their children accessing material like this i would say you cannot rely on the government or profit—making companies to solve these problems for you. what you need to do is talk to your children notjust about pornography but sex and

relationships and respect and consent, there are great resources out there for that. but you will not be able to restrict your child's access to the internet to such an extent that they never see sexually explicit images. let me put this to you josh, it comes from twitter, please don't conflate paid for snapchat images with access for 13—year—olds, to use snapchat to the age has to be 13, but to view paid images requires a user to be a consenting adult. i don't think that's true ? this is why it's such a degree regulatory area, where you have got such, it's taken the business into individual snapchat users since the one you are talking to, that transactions between two individual people rather than a company who can be regulated against and the user of the company. right,

but it's not unheard of for a teenager to use their parents e—mail address, get their debit card from their purse slash wallet, to be able to access this kind of stuff. absolutely. one on texting i hope they pay tax on their earnings from these pictures and videos, another says it is safe depending on how much they identify themselves, physically safer, yes probably, but inwardly safer, good for their mental health? that requires another discussion. what do you think? this is one of the oldest professions in the world, sex work. we have a situation where technology has become part of everyday life and it is inevitable it will be used in this way as well. this is not a new phenomenon, people have been using these platforms to engage with clients for some time. we are concerned, we do see issues on the helpline for your people are

blackmailed because of it, they are named and shamed in some way because of it. and of course these images can resurface later. if people actually give their consent to share them online it makes it really difficult for us to get them to come back down again. you heard jodie talk about the abuse she receives for doing what she is doing. 0ne message, you are a ho though. the issueis message, you are a ho though. the issue is the discrimination experienced. it's all right for kim kardashian or people to use their sexuality in a way to sell products and might be quite harmful products, for example weight loss treatments, but when someone is engaging in a straightforward transaction seeing if you give me this amount of money i will provide this imagery or service people see it as fair game for abuse. what you think about? i

think it's a historic double standard around women's sexual behaviour and we are still at the sharp end of that. when a society treats women who sell sexual services with respect then all women will be treated with greater respect. we will only have an honest and open and meaningful conversation about sex and pleasure when we are having an honest and open and meaningful conversation about the sex industry. josh, as james was seen as a sex industry. josh, as james was seen as a result of the investigation instagram have banned the hashtag premium snapchat, since then new hashtags have popped up, one illustration, that it's hard to regulate. the social media companies are in an interesting position that they have to be seen to doing something. the youngest snap chat

user is 13. but there are definitely younger children using it. yes, the problem is, sex is an effective way of grabbing attention, in a way the fa ct of grabbing attention, in a way the fact that this is going on, it means there is this vital content being shared on social media which is driving the business model. laura, you said this imagery, these images might resurface online in the future and that might damage an individual potentially like jodie, and that might damage an individual potentially likejodie, what do you mean? we've supported a lot of victims who might have done some escort work or modelling online, the pictures have gone out, they have willingly done it at that point in

their life, but ten years down the line may perhaps want to move on and get a professional career. unfortunately people may still have those images. they will use them to shame them in some way, posting them online and potentially that will cost people issues and getting employment. we supported one person who had willingly made some videos, ten years later he trained as a barrister and unfortunately it was difficult trying to get some of the content ta ken difficult trying to get some of the content taken down. e-mails seeing as much as i think we should empower people to live their lives as they choose i am concerned such platforms could provide incredible young individuals with access to materials which could be damaging to their early development and understanding of sex. snapchat is targeted at a very young audience. i don't believe it should be a platform which simultaneously targets this demographic and allows for this type of co nte nt. demographic and allows for this type of content. and another says i have snapchat and two children, one is

eight years old. my eight—year—old has a smartphone and is always asking if you can have snapchat on his phone because he likes the funny filters for pictures and videos but i have personally come across some snapchat when i am seeing pictures of naked men and women and videos andi of naked men and women and videos and i could not believe how easy it was to access. basically pornography on my phone. some work to do for these social media companies, thank you all very much for coming on the programme. keep your e—mails coming the government has been warned about a national crisis after a report says police have become the default service to deal with mental health patients and police officers are having to pick up the pieces. the inspectorate of constabulary — which is responsible for inspecting the effectiveness of police in england and wales — said every year forces were dealing with tens of thousands of incidents that should be handled instead by mental health workers. in london, for example, the police receive a call about a mental health concern once every four minutes, and send an officer to respond to a mental health call every 12 minutes.

it warned that an intolerable burden is being placed on police i've been speaking tojohn apter, from the police federation of england and wales, marcia rigg, whose brother sean had paranoid schizophrenia and died in police custody in 2008 and zoe billingham, hm inspector of constabulary. zoe wrote the report which sets out the pressures facing police. so, what we are saying is the police are doing a really good job actually when responding to people with mental ill—health, particularly when people are in crisis, they are caring, compassionate, they get there really quickly. but the police are stepping into the shoes of mental health practitioners. they're having to give care and treatment to people who are ill when actually the right people to give that care and treatment are people who are medically trained, who have mental health expertise and are able to care for people in hospital beds, not in the back of police cars or, even worse, locking people with a mental illness up in police cells. we say it's just got to stop.

and it's happening with alarming regularity, isn't it? every single day the police are going beyond their core roll in order to keep people in mental health crisis safe. we are also finding that mental health practitioners, when they shut up shop, at the end of the day, are pushing some of their demands and responsibility onto the police because the police are a 24/7 service. i think you mean mental health professionals are telling people, "ring the police if you have an issue." we have evidence of that happening. also, because the police often now have mental health nurses working with them in the control room where the 999 calls come in, it is seen as a quick route into getting medical care. this is never what this was intended for. we are saying that the mental health system, in which the police are operating in, is broken and it needs to be fixed urgently. marcia, it has been a decade since your brother, who had paranoid schizophrenia, died in police custody.

what is your reaction to zoe billingham's report today? it is nothing new. this is something that's come up so many times before sean died and aftersean died. at the inquest, the coroner had a rule 43 report that said there was nojoined up working relationships between all the stakeholders — that's the mental health and london ambulance service and the police at the time. and that inquest was six years ago. the inquest was six years ago. so, what actually has changed since then? this is a report which i'm not disagreeing with at all. what we need is implementation and action and not another report saying what we have known for the last six years, at least in my brother's case. john, what kind of action is needed? immediate, andl john, what kind of action is needed? immediate, and i share the views, i

welcome the report because i think it validates what i and many others in policing have been saying for a numberof in policing have been saying for a number of years. let's be clear, since the events such as the death of sean, police awareness of mental health has been improved dramatically and are working with the medical professionals is much better. but for far too many cases the medical professionals are passing the buck. we are there and will never see no because anyone in crisis we need to support. there will be occasions where it's right and proper the police are involved but all too often the police are being deployed to a situation which isa being deployed to a situation which is a medical emergency, it's not a police emergency. are medical professionals passing the buck because they don't have enough people to deal with people? absolutely, i have no doubt, it's not a criticism of those individuals, the mental health nurses and paramedics because we know everyone in the public sector is stretched. but in allowing the

police to fix the broken parts of the nhs is failing my colleagues, those dedicated men and women doing their absolute best, but it's also feeling the patients and that is what they are, they are patients, not prisoners. your report gives some stark facts, the police receive a call about a mental health concern once every four mac minutes and sent an officer to respond every 12 minutes. welsh forces estimating each call takes an average three hours. is the fact that the police are dealing with mental health calls stopping officers from preventing and solving crime? yes. clearly. every night there are certain number of police officers out on patrol ready to respond to 999 calls when the public most need them. if you have two mac officers who are with a patient in accident and emergency waiting to be seen by a medic, another two guarding someone in a police cell who ought to be in a

hospital bed, do the maths victoria. you have far fewer officers available to stop crime in action and go after burglars and go to fights and other things the public also expect the police to be doing. is the message to the government they need to invest more in mental health services? mental health services since 2010 have been cut, the government putting between 1—2 billion into services since then. resources are not being put in in the right way in my opinion. for instance we have death in police custody still happening which should not happen. what we need is care. i don't think a lack of resources can affect that. what we need is care. when someone has been restrained or is vulnerable, the excesses force being used, that should not happen. police are involved in this, we do have nurses and custody suites. it's not a 24—hour service. if somebody

comes into a police station they should receive that risk assessment bya should receive that risk assessment by a medical nurse and they should be treated accordingly, not restrained to death with excessive force being used. that is why we have recently got the new law which hasjust come out of have recently got the new law which has just come out of this have recently got the new law which hasjust come out of this month because excessive force is being used to the point of death. this is what the public are concerned about. why are people being restrained to death when they are vulnerable and not criminals. there will be a gross misconduct hearing involving several officers in relation to your brothers death next year. you would not necessarily want to comment on that but do you accept, bearing in mind what has been pointed out in this report that mistakes are being made by officers, albeit for reasons to do with overstretched resources? indeed, there have been great

improvements in police officers awareness of mental health in the la st awareness of mental health in the last ten years and the impact their presence can have with somebody suffering a mental health crisis. but deaths in custody has risen by 64% ? but deaths in custody has risen by 6496? and custody as a place people in mental health crisis should not be. my colleagues have a real dilemma where there is nowhere else to take them. the government will see there are fewer people who go to police custody in mental health crisis. but let me tell you they are not going into police cells, they are going into police cars, police canteens, until space becomes available. by 9596 since 2011-12, we are investing 2 billion in mental health services including a mental health services including a mental health or in accident and emergency departments and nhs england will be

setting out its proposals to improve mental health services in the long term plan. i want you to watch this next short film — it's a tearjerker but a very happy story: a 10—year—old boy, who was diagnosed with a rare blood disorder, has been reunited with the man who helped save his life. rupert cross spent 80 days in a specialist unit at great 0rmond street hospital, on a course of chemotherapy before a match was found. this is his story. that is the best story of the day. a new report today is calling for a proper definition of anti—muslim prejudice, or islamophobia. the all—party parliamentary group on british muslims says the lack of such a definition leaves muslims open to abuse in this country. the group hopes the government will adopt this — "islamophobia is rooted in racism and is a form of racism that targets expressions of muslimness or perceived muslimness". let's talk to baroness warsi.

she was the uk's first female muslim cabinet minister and is a member of the cross—party british muslims group that produced this report. also here is hanan abdel—khalek who's a freelance journalist and writer. in nottingham is malaika kayani — malaika converted to islam in 2008. and maz saleem is here — herfather was murdered in a racist attack five years ago in birmingham. welcome to all of you, tell our audience what happens to your father? my father was 82 at the time, on the 29th of april 2013 and he was walking home from mosque at final prayers. he was walking home on the what he does five times a day every day and he was followed home on this particular night by a neo—nazi terrorist who followed my

father home, stabbed him to death. then he went on a three month bombing campaign putting bombs outsides three mosques in the west midlands. it was one of the biggest a cts midlands. it was one of the biggest acts of terrorism in the uk and i feel not as many people know about my father's death as they should. that was an islamophobic attack, the man who murdered your father has been jailed man who murdered your father has beenjailed for 40 years. man who murdered your father has been jailed for 40 years. what difference would having a definition of islamophobia make?” difference would having a definition of islamophobia make? i welcome the definition and the report. i think it's important islamophobia is taken seriously. i felt like when it's important islamophobia is taken seriously. ifelt like when my father was murdered it was not taken seriously. in regards to how the police dealt with our case i don't think it was taken with the seriousness it deserved as it did with the lee rigby case which quite rightly had a lot of media attention

and was condemned and theresa may went out to corporate meetings, we did not get any of that and dad was murdered just three weeks before lee rigby in one of the biggest acts of terrorism on uk soil. there was a murder investigation, a man was caught and jailed. of course, i feel we need to hold the media and politicians as well who are perpetuating bigotry, demonising the way muslim women dress from the very top. we need to hold them to account by perpetuating such bigotry and then having the media normalising this type of torque. on the question of the way muslim women dress, baroness warsi, borisjohnson criticised muslim women wearing a parka saying it's ridiculous people should choose to go around looking like like lacquer boxes, is that islamophobic? that's why we need the definition. when that row came to the fore it was clear everyone was

questioning whether it was appropriate or inappropriate, i consider those comments to be islamophobic because it's demonising women who wear them. if we had a genuine debate about the face veil on the head covering i don't have an issue with that, both most muslims do not have an issue with that. but islamophobia is not about shutting down debate on islam, there is a long discussion within islam and we make that clear in the report. islamophobia as it is currently defined in the report is about the protection of muslims or people who are perceived to be muslims and what we have found during the investigation is there is overwhelming evidence to show many people who are not muslims such as sikhs, the families of white converts, such as an italian man a couple of weeks ago who was beaten up couple of weeks ago who was beaten up in london, many people who are

perceived to be muslim are also subjected to islamophobic abuse. right, what islamophobia have you faced? well obviously, hearing that in its most explicit sense and it's horrific. what i worry about, this report is a step in the right direction but at the same time a lot of islamophobic abuse, it's like micro—aggression so it can be done in the street, on the train ? like what? it is like when you are in a situation where it is emotionally abusive, it is like gas lighting, did that really happen? did what really happened ? did that really happen? did what really happened? i was walking down the street and a man followed me in the street and a man followed me in the crowd and hit me. how and where? did he punch you? he hit me on the arm. i carried on walking because i

just thought it's probably a rough area. and it was only when two women behind me were shocked and asked if i was behind me were shocked and asked if iwas ok behind me were shocked and asked if i was ok that i internalised what happened and because i am so used to it, so used to these micro aggression is that we internalise it. it's like we develop compassion fatigue towards certain attacks. if it does not sound outrageous is it that bad? i understand. you have lived as a white british women and asa lived as a white british women and as a muslim convert, tell us how attitudes towards you change when you converted? i find quite a lot of aggression especially locally where i live initially. quite often people swear at me, i live initially. quite often people swearat me, i i live initially. quite often people swear at me, i do not wear the scarf but i used to. we would swear, i have had people push me, refused to sit next to me on a bus. did you stop wearing the scarf because of

the abuse? yes i did. baroness warsi you have accused elements of the conservative party of being in denial about islamophobia, what do you mean by that? i will answer that question but it's important to respond what hasjust been said, these are the kind of everyday experiences we hear about in the writing of this report. the most subtle forms, the way it impacts every day lives. it leads to a distressing daily existence especially for women who busily identify as muslim and that is why it is essential, it cannot be right that british citizens, our fellow british citizens are treated in this way and that even now despite the statistics we don't have a definition to see what this is. until we define this we are not going to be able to deal with it. that starts with political parties including the conservative party taking on this definition, we have raised this matter with the home secretary, he has had an opportunity to see the definition and is

considering it and i sincerely hope my party are front and centre of adopting this definition which is rooted in the experiences of real british muslim communities. what difference would an official definition make to you for example? well, i am definition make to you for example? well, lam not definition make to you for example? well, i am not sure at the moment because this is a systemic problem and it roots down, it trickles down into everything, our education, the way we are treated in institutions, in the media. personally i was hit bya car in the media. personally i was hit by a car in texas just last week so it's notjust for by a car in texas just last week so it's not just for british muslims, it's not just for british muslims, it's all over the world. we cannot just treat it in a vacuum. i think it's part of a greater system and i think only when we can tackle those problems can be really make some sort of change. i'm going to pause because we are coming to the end of the programme but thank you all so much for your contributions, we will see if the home secretary adopts the definition, thank you for coming on the programme, we appreciate all your time. thank you for your

company, have a good day. good morning, a ratherfoggy start to the day but that fog has now pretty much lifted and cleared away, it's rain we are now focused on and thatis it's rain we are now focused on and that is moving its way through northern ireland, wales and south—western parts of england at the moment. this is the radar rainfall image, if we go through to the forecast we can see it moving its way further north and east through this afternoon. brighter skies towards eastern scotland and the eastern side of england, eventually sunny spells in wales and south—west england but strong winds developing around the irish sea

coasts and temperatures generally 6-10 but coasts and temperatures generally 6—10 but signs of the mild air starting to move its way into the south—west. the rain will clear it to the north sea tonight followed quickly by another band of rain moving in from the waist and strengthening winds for all of us into the early hours of wednesday morning, cold night, temperatures above freezing, frost free but during wednesday a windy day for all of us, gales and severe deals in northern and western areas and with it some heavy rain for us as well. goodbye. you're watching bbc newsroom live. it's11am and these are the main stories this morning. theresa may is on the road trying to rally support for her brexit deal, as her former defence secretary

launches a scathing attack. my fear is this deal actuallyjust gives us the worst of all worlds. so unless the commons, i think, can be persuaded somehow that those things are possible, yes, then i think the deal is doomed. downing street insists theresa may's plan will allow the uk to strike a trade deal with the us, after president trump suggests otherwise. i think we have to take a look at seriously whether or not the uk is allowed to trade, because right now, if you look at the deal, they may not be able to trade with us, and that would not be a good thing. matthew hedges — the british academic released from detention in the uae — arrives back in the uk.