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hello, it's friday, it's 10 o'clock. i'm chloe tilley. move back! move back now! as new video emerges of up to 100 teenagers surrounding and attacking police officers in a town centre in county durham, police in stanley call on parents to take responsibility for their "out of control teenagers". parents were asked to come and review the footage from the officers‘ body cams of the incident that night. they all agreed the behaviour of their children was appalling. an mp who publically revealed that he's hiv positive yesterday tells this programme he was worried he would cry when he stood up in the house of commons to make his speech. jeremy corbyn, our leader, of course just came in at that moment. he leant over and just reached out to me and said, "good luck." i had been 0k until then but suddenly, just that last thing,
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suddenly i got a bit kind of, the bottom lip kind of wavered. you can hear that full interview with lloyd russell—moyle in a few minutes‘ time. and after we went undercover to expose the lettings agency charging prospective tenants hundreds of pounds just to view a flat, we've been back to see whether it's still going on. i found one that looked very nice. i liked the pictures and i was like, ok, i can take this one, i would like to book a viewing. and they said, "no, you have to put in a deposit fee in that case for it to be held and saved for you." after our exclusive story yesterday, lots of you got in touch to say it's happened to you — telling us other letting agencies are also charging non—refundable deposits. hello. welcome to the programme. we're live until 11 this morning. if you've got teenage children — do you always keep track of where
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they are and what they're doing? is it easier said than done? police in stanley in county durham say parents should take more responsibility for their "out of control" children after up to a hundred teenagers surrounded police officers, some of them throwing bricks and fireworks. do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about — use the hashtag victoria live. what are your experiences if you live in the stanley area? if you're emailing and are happy for us to contact you — and maybe want to take part in the programme — please include your phone number in your message. if you text, you'll be charged at the standard network rate. here's annita mcveigh with a summary of the day's news. rail fares railfares will go rail fares will go up railfares will go up by an rail fares will go up by an average of 3.1% in january. rail fares will go up by an average of 3.1% injanuary. they rail fares will go up by an average of 3.1% in january. they will see the annual cost of getting to work rise by £100 when the new fares come
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into effect onjanuary rise by £100 when the new fares come into effect on january the rise by £100 when the new fares come into effect onjanuary the 2nd. passenger groups say the rise comes as punch vanity and reliability on the railways is the worst in five yea rs the railways is the worst in five years —— punctuality. they say that 5p years —— punctuality. they say that spin years —— punctuality. they say that 5p in every pound is reinvested into the railways. the increases help to fund the day—to—day running of the railway allowing for billions of pounds of extra investment to be targeted where it is really needed, in stations like this at london bridge, liverpool lime street and new rolling stock which passengers have been asking us for. thousands of patients will be prescribed a low—calorie liquid only diet after trials showed it could help to reverse type two diabetes. more than 3 million people across the uk live with type two diabetes, nhs england says alongside the diet it will expand an existing prevention programme. a labourmp who programme. a labour mp who revealed he is hiv—positive told the programme he was worried that he would cry when he stood up in the house of commons
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to make his speech. lloyd russell—moyle, the mp for brighton and kempton, made the announcement to mps during a debate to mark the 30th anniversary of world aids day on the 1st of december. you can hear our full on the 1st of december. you can hear ourfull interview on the 1st of december. you can hear our full interview with him after this summary. the metropolitan police says it is considering deploying armed officers to tackle gang violence across parts of london. commissioner cressida dick said that the move was a temporary measure and would only be used in extreme circumstances. 127 people have been murdered in the capital so far this year, including 72 fatal stabbings and 1a shootings. schoolchildren in australia have taken part in a day of rallies to demand action on climate change. what do we want? when do we want it? now! thousands attended marches in sydney, melbourne and brisbane, despite a call from scott morrison, the country's prime minister, urging them to stay in school. that's a
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summary them to stay in school. that's a summary of the main stories today. we will be talking in the next few minutes... this is the body comforted from one of those police officers. if you have teenage children, it's difficult to keep track of them, do you know where they are and what they are doing? is this all very well in principle but in reality very different? we want to hear from you, especially if you live in that area. tell us what it is like. give us area. tell us what it is like. give us your experiences. use the hashtag and if you are e—mailing and happy for us to contact you, you are taking part in the programme, include your phone number in your message and if you are texting, you will be charged at the standard network rate. lloyd russell—moyle —
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the labour mp for brighton kemptown who revealed he is hiv positive in the house of commons yesterday — has told this programme how he was worried he would cry when he made his speech. the former labour councillor was elected to parliament in 2017. he's just the second mp to say they're hiv positive publically after chris smith, the former culture secretary, announced he had the virus back in 2005. lloyd russell—moyle has had hiv for almost ten years and said he felt now was the right time to talk about it publically. mr deputy speaker, next year i will be marking an anniversary of my own. ten years since i became hiv—positive. it has been a long journey, from the theory of acceptance and today hopefully advocacy. knowing that my treatment keeps me healthy and protects any partner that i may have. well i've been speaking to lloyd — and started by asking him to tell me about the moment he was told he was hiv positive nine years ago. my memories of complete...
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despair is the wrong word, but, you know, a complete blankness at the same time as a complete kind of... a million things running through your mind at once, and it's a rather strange kind of feeling of both at the same time. and i remember very vividly being in the room when they tell you and it does feel like the wind has been taken out of you, and you kind of imagine maybe this is some joke. you kind of almost hoping that this is some kind of horrible candid camera moment where someone is going to kind ofjump out, or it's some kind of cruel nhs education project. all those things you wish, you wish anything
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would happen, but it doesn't. what people say in the room beyond your diagnosis kind of get lost in your personal... and that's the same if you talk about people getting diagnosis for a lot of things. they say that you are told and then your mind is going off on other things and then you kind of come back to the room and they are saying, is there anything else you need? they are all very good when they told me, i have got no beef there particularly. i think that the nhs has really supported me through that process. of course, in my constituency, we now see the funding cuts on some of those support packages that were able to be offered so i hope that other people coming forward would be able to have the same kind of support that i did. nine years ago, it is not like the 19805 when people were diagnosed with being hiv—positive, but even so, did you still worry about telling friends, family, former partners?
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that is difficult, isn't it? you have to tell immediate former partners who you might have had relations with in between the time that you contracted it and i tried to go in person to partners to tell them, and that was a difficult process doing it face—to—face, but i thought that was important to do. i told my very immediate family, my parents, within the first week, and actually i am very grateful that i did that. i think i was still in semi—shock at that point and so it was easier to get it out than if i had probably waited a bit. it would been harder. it takes longer to tell other friends and family and it takes you a little while. you have to work out how to do that. and how to tell people. you don't want everyone to suddenly be too sympathetic, you know? that is difficult as well as everyone is just constantly weeping about it. so you try to tell people
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when they need to know in the right kind of context and try to go forward. and did you everfind any anger from former partners or frustration? i remember one person being frustrated that i hadn'tjust rung up straightaway and told them, that i had that week to go up and visit them. but i felt it was the right thing to do, and it was important also for me in that week to put things altogether, to work out who were the right people to tell. but i've never had very much anger. i'm not the person to be able to, myself also, hold angerfor very long. i find it too exhausting. i'm the kind of person that will have the argument, have the spat and then ten minutes later say, do you want a cup of tea? let's get on. and most of my friends are similar to that temperament, so luckily that's not been a problem.
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and how has the diagnosis affected your life? because initially an hiv—positive diagnosis was a death sentence and that's not the case now. well, of course, immediately, you feel like it is going to be the end of your life. you think you will never find a partner again. you will never be able to have children. i mean, children were never high up on my agenda, but suddenly all of those things that you feel that you've lost, and then you start to realise that actually that's not the case, and actually i remember my parents, my father particularly, who is an engineer and someone who took a very scientific kind of approach to it. he said, here is the research, here is the evidence, you will get through this and you will live a healthy life. and now i take one pill a day before i go to bed and that pill a day literally keeps the doctor away. and as long as i keep taking that i will have very little problems going forward. i will live a normal and full life. and so it becomes less and less important. you just do it after
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brushing your teeth. it becomes part of your routine. also, let's remember that hiv diagnosis, thankfully because of the good work of the recent campaigns, is reducing. so it doesn't seem to be playing out that reducing fear is increasing diagnosis. in fact, it's the other way. reducing fear has actually helped us also reduce the number of transmissions, and we are now at the situation in this country where we really have it in our grasp to get to zero transmissions. we are the first country in the world to meet the un 1990 90 target, 90% of people with hiv tested. we have actually got 92%. making sure that 90% is the target for people on the drugs. we have got 98%. and making sure 90% are undetectable like myself, so i couldn't even pass it on if i tried. the virus is not detectable in my blood or my body.
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it's there, it's somewhere in reserve, but the drug keeps it totally at bay. we have met those targets so now we should be going for 100% on those targets and i think the minister, with a bit of a push, might be able to get there. we eradicated smallpox in the last century. we are close to eradicating polio in this century. for the next, let's make sure aids is the thing we can abolish, and that is the glory of science and true knowledge that we need to be spreading about the facts. and is that why you decided to stand up in the house of commons? an incredibly brave thing to do in front of your peers, your colleagues, yourfriends, and say, i am hiv—positive and this does not define me. how did you come to that decision personally? there's a few reasons why i came to that. one of them is that i was nominating people for their good work around hiv in my constituency and they were winning these awards and i was at that award ceremony last year where the founder of lunch positive, which is a lunch
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club for people with hiv, won the award. i had nominated him. he was up there. people were talking about how brave he was in talking about his hiv status and i honestly felt that myjob as an mp is to talk about political things. to turn the personal political and the political personal as well. and if i am unable to put my money where my mouth is, congratulate others for doing it but i cannot do it myself, then there is something wrong, so i felt morally that it was possibly the right time. and politically it was the right time because of the fantastic statistics that came out this week, but also the fact that we have seen huge cuts to public health. and if we suddenly take the foot off of the accelerator we might start to slip back. so it is a fork in the road and hopefully my announcement will help us go down the right path. and those moments before you stood up in the house.
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what was going through your mind? my heart was fluttering. racing. jeremy corbyn, our leader, of course, just came in at that moment and he lent over and just reached out to me and said good luck. i had been 0k until then but suddenly, you know, it is just that last thing, suddenly i got a bit kind of, the bottom lip wavered and my friend emma next to me said, don't suddenly start crying before you've even started. so i ploughed on. and those first few sentences i was close to tears and i thought i've just got to keep going through this because if i don't get it out now and turn into a jibbering wreck i won't ever be able to get it out. i am quite proud that i did manage to get that out and the reaction has been very positive. normally on social media and the internet it's a cesspit but actually it's been totally the opposite of
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that and people have been very positive and lots of people have written saying they are going to get tested or they now feel braver about speaking out themselves and that's surely the point. thank you ever so much. thank you. yesterday, we brought you the exclusive report that one london letting agency, flintons, has been charging hundreds of pounds to allow prospective tenants to view a property. the practice, by flintons, breaches guidelines and could be unlawful. flintons deny any wrongdoing. after ourfilm aired, our reporterjames waterhouse went back to east london to see whether flintons was operating as usual, and chatted to people coming out of the agency. three people said they were asked to pay a £300 deposit to view a property, but decided against paying. one person said they had been able to book a property viewing without any upfront payment. one man, alexander barinov, told us he paid £400 to hold a room
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ahead of viewing it. i came here this morning and none of the places that i'd been looking at were available anymore. they said they had already been taken. so we looked through other places, and ifound one that looked very nice. i liked the pictures and i was like, "ok, i can take this one. i would like to book a viewing." and they said, "no, you have to put in a deposit fee, in that case, for it to be held and saved for you." i paid a £400 holding fee, and i'm going to go and view the place tomorrow. are you worried about that £400? given that you haven't seen the place yet. i am, and i did ask if it's refundable and it's not. it's not refundable? it's not refundable. however, i'm able to use that money to get any other place provided by them in the future, if i don't like that place. and that extends for one week and after that one week i have to give them another additional £100
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for a relocation fee. it is either get a property through flintons, or lose £400. flintons deny any wrongdoing. they have told us that they do not charge any fees for viewings and payment is only taken when a person confirms that they wish to take the property. they say that their holding deposits are always non—refundable, and they do not believe there would be any purpose in taking deposits if you could get your money back. we received an overwhelming number of responses from you with similar — and sometimes even worse — stories, which showed that the practice of requiring these kinds of charges is by no means limited to flintons, or even london. two of those people join us now. sarah desforges, got in touch after having seen our film to tell us about her experience. she first moved to london in 2012 and has faced upfront payments from three different other london—based agencies. none of those were flintons. and david pearce, a landlord who, after discovering some of the charges his letting agent
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was demanding, withdrew his properties and found an ‘ethical‘ letting agency to work with instead. thank you both are coming in. so, sarah, you first moved to london in 2012 from france, and say that on three separate occasions, with three different agencies, you were asked to pay upfront to be able to view a potential room? i moved here to do my masters at university college london. i did not have any friends or family knowledge of the london property market and what to expect. i had problems at first because i did not have a uk—based guarantor. a lot of landlords turned me down even though my university offered her as a guarantor. i ended up on the doorstep of letting agency who said
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you have room to you in a flat sharing west london but it is £200 in order to view it. the reasons they used was that it was for preserving the property. if i did not pay this fee and they showed it to me someone might call in a bucket, basically take it from under my nose. they claim they have a lot of demand that they need to charge for the viewings. did you instantly say yes or did it concern you?m did concern me. they told me up front it was nonrefundable. they quickly reassured me and said if i did take the room it would be deducted from any fees or deposit i would have to pay. did you take the room? yes, i did take the room. i was really overwhelmed by that point. i've just found london was really overwhelmed by that point. i'vejust found london huge. just getting around, it took awhile
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to get to know london very well. yes, i was desperate to have a roof over my head before started classes. david, you are a landlord. many people will think of these some agencies are charging is working with the landlord and the landlords are getting this money or agreeing with it but that was not the case with it but that was not the case with you. i was shocked. i had trusted lettings agent to act in my name and sign contracts on my behalf to run the show. that is what i was paid to do. it came as a shock to me. i took a phone call from a tenant. i knew the tenant. he was a tough, strong man. he was almost broken by what had happened. i went round to see him and it turns out he had been asked for £700 because he
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had been asked for £700 because he had a change of partner in the flat. his change of partner is none of my business or the lettings agents. they wanted the deposit and £300 simply to change the name. the name on the contract? that was more than that man took home in a week. he was put in an impossible situation. what was the justification for this? very coy. they tried to avoid talking about it. you said that is it, i do not want to use you anymore. about it. you said that is it, i do not want to use you anymorelj about it. you said that is it, i do not want to use you anymore. i was lucky in finding a small, local agent that would have none of this at all and simply did not go in for this. what i found later to be quite ridiculous extent of charges. this was not the only hidden charge which landlords were not told and still i
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find under proposed legislation we might one day have landlords will still not be told what is being done in their name. when you watched the report yesterday where you surprised about the extent of this or do you know from your experience speaking to friends and colleagues that this isa to friends and colleagues that this is a problem? the fees, you mean? in my experience it was very common. i was not surprised at all. i have beenin was not surprised at all. i have been in five different flat shares since i moved to london and i have lived with about 25 different people through those flat shares. every single one has had not very good experiences with letting agencies and has had to pay quite steep fees, upfront steep fees to book their rooms. we say this is legally questionable that it is allowed. with a old to the way you view this
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in the future or do you feel you are trapped and if you want to move to a different place for this is what you have to do? it has altered my view of it in the future. i did not know it was legally questionable until i read the article on the bbc website. i knew most of my rights, including how my deposit had to be protected. this one i did not know about. in the future i will try to argue against it but the fact is there is so much demand for affordable housing in london, i think agencies can get away with charging these fees because they know that if someone refuses to fees because they know that if someone refuses to pay and walks out someone someone refuses to pay and walks out someone else will come in five minutes later and paid double the money to get that room. so, what is the answer? what would you like to see change to make sure tenants are
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not put under this pressure?” see change to make sure tenants are not put under this pressure? i would like the law to be like it is in scotland, that the extra charges which have been developed by larger lettings agencies in this country are simply made illegal. we did not used to have them in lettings agency make quite a good living without them and the smaller ones still are. i was amazed at how expensive they are. idid i was amazed at how expensive they are. i did some sums on the way. on the chargers sheet of the largest lettings agents in this country and a couple moving into a flat with a dog at the weekend over a reasonably short period of time, they would be paying on top of the rent in front, on top of the deposit, another £857, which takes the outlying for a young couples starting out in a tenancy
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into the realm of the ridiculous. does this mean you are more likely to stay where you are now? absolutely. i have stayed in horrendous flats for that very reason. i stayed in a room where i had black mould coming out of the walls. i have stayed in a flat where i had really serious problems with one of the other tenants who was violent and either threatened me because i knew the alternative was dealing with the property market for london and i actually chose to stay. let me read you this statement we have got from the government. the housing minister said it is an a cce pta ble housing minister said it is an acceptable of governance are being asked to hand over money before they even view a rental property. "under our consumer rights act, letting agents must clearly set out their fees and can be fined up to £5,000 by trading standards teams if they don't. and our tenant fees bill will go even further by allowing tenants to see upfront what a given property
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will cost them. "we are cracking down on the minority of rogue landlords and agents — and we are introducing a new regulatory framework for property agents." thank you very much for coming in and sharing your experiences. women in madagascar are being sent to prison for crimes their male relatives are accused of. as part of the 100 women series, the bbc has had access to madagascan prisons to speak to women who have been detained for months — and sometimes years — told they were "accomplices" or should have known what their husbands, brothers or sons were doing. that film is part of this year's bbc 100 women series — shining a spotlight on stories about women that go often go unreported. you can find more stories at bbc.co.uk/100women, or find them on social media @bbc100women police in county durham are calling
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for parents to take responsibility for their "out of control" teenagers after officers were surrounded and attacked by a group of up to 100 children. it happened in stanley earlier this month, but the force has just released body cam footage of the incident. we're asking people nicelyjust to move away. you can see what is going on. move back. move back now. can you not see what is going on around you? well, durham police have put out a message on social media calling
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on parents to take responsibility for where their kids are and what they're doing. here's some of what local sergeant emma kay had to say. we have faced outbreaks of out—of—control children in the town centre. about 20 people through bricks and fireworks and attacked my officers. 0ne pcso was punched in the face by a young person. disorder of this kind is totally unacceptable. violence against our officers will not be tolerated. action will be taken against all individuals involved in the incident that night. whilst there is a ha rd core that night. whilst there is a hardcore group of individuals involved in this incident, many people were stood on the sidelines. young people who will effect their life chances by continuing to engage in this type of behaviour. we are
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asking for parents to step up to the plate and take responsibility for your children. do you know where they are world they bring trouble to your door? it's up to you to keep your door? it's up to you to keep your children safe, out of harms way and out of trouble. when you see that footage, is it shocking? we have always had disorder problems, this is not new but the number of people we see here, and the ages of children who think it is acceptable to attack police officers, what we are seeing is quite new and it is testament to the problem that we see across the country. really, down to the fact that young people engage with social media, they see people, politicians,
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some politicians in parliament, and local councillors who are disrespectful towards police. they think it then becomes acceptable and we see this kind of av playing out. i think it is really good that the sergeant was going on social media and putting the point across saying that we are going to deal with this but i think we need to get this message across, that is totally unacceptable and you will be dealt with and you will find yourself in front of a court, and if it happens again you could end up in a young offenders institute. these messages are messages we need to get out. it isa are messages we need to get out. it is a problem we've got and we've got an entire generation of young people who have grown up in the tory government being disrespectful towards police and difficult, antagonistic at times as well. and simply we need this to stop. we need to respect for the police and young people to understand they cannot be doing this. david, let me bring in
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harry stephenson, a former detective superintendent with county durham police, he worked in the stanley area where this was filmed. when you saw that footage, knowing stanley as you do, where you surprised it had happened? yes, i was. you do, where you surprised it had happened? yes, iwas. initially, but looking back on how policing has developed in the last few years, and the lack of resource input into policing, not really. my experience of stanley is that the people there are good people who, in the main, support police and during my time there with durham place, i found that they were first class and would go out there way and would support you on every occasion. but over the years, i'm aware that because of police cuts and police numbers, there are a dwindling number of office rs there are a dwindling number of officers in that area. what is going wrong, harry? the police officer in the video there, there was a hard
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co re the video there, there was a hard core of 20 kids throwing bottles, bricks and fireworks at police officers but about 80 standing around observing and seemingly think this is acceptable. how have we got to this point? i think what has happened in the last number of years, police numbers have been cut and cut, and there are fewer office rs and cut, and there are fewer officers in the community. regardless of the spin that police wa nt regardless of the spin that police want to put on it, those are the facts. my experience of stanley was when we serve there, there were up to 30 officers working in that area andl to 30 officers working in that area and i appreciate that times have changed and have moved on but if you wanted to do the survey of how many office rs wanted to do the survey of how many officers are working and covering that area, over a 24—hour period i would think it is minimal. for me there has been a breakdown with the community and police. does it help?
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the fact that they showed this video to the parents of some of the identifiable children in this body comforted ? identifiable children in this body comforted? they showed it to them and they said it was unacceptable and they said it was unacceptable and their children have behaved appallingly. i think it's a good tactic and it is necessary for children to appreciate that when children to appreciate that when children leave their home, this is what they get up to. it is not acceptable. i would think the vast majority of the parents of those young people involved will find and will agree with the police and support them. carry, thank you for speaking to us. harry stephenson, former detective superintendent, and david, a former metropolitan police detective. many of you getting in touch this morning. lee says that parents should be fined and sent a bill every time police have to deal with their unruly kids. tony says, what
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happened to these officers was terrifying and sends the wrong message to visitors to the uk. gillian says that the children should be arrested, charged and convicted. get in touch with us don't. still to come. schoolchildren from across australia have taken part in a day of strikes calling for action on climate change. we'll be talking to a 14—year—old girl who organised the protests. yesterday, we showed you shocking footage of a 15—year—old syrian boy being attacked at a school in huddersfield. the footage showed him being grabbed by the neck and thrown to the floor, before having water poured over his face. now support groups are warning that physical and verbal attacks are increasingly becoming part of the refugee experience in britain today. organisations representing syrians
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say they're facing a growing number of vicious attacks that aren't receiving media attention. in a moment we'll ask what's it like to arrive in the uk as a refugee, and whether we should be doing more to help people settle into society when they've come here seeking safety. earlier this year, our reporter sean clare went to the north of england to find out what it's like for asylum seekers being housed here when they arrive in the country. and what it's like for the exisiting local communties. if the home office decides those seeking asylum are destitute and need housing, after three weeks they are supposed to be rehoused in parts of the country with a supply of cheap, longer term accommodation. so how does it feel to be sent somewhere where nothing and no—one is familiar, somewhere with social problems and already stretched services and somewhere where you could find yourself at the sharp end of resentment and fear? it looks like you are not welcome.
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they are not friendly. no—one will come to help you because they don't know who is that person. even though there is a community around you, you are still alone. asylum seekers like this one are sent to parts of the country where local councillors said they will take them but, in places like loftus, a small, isolated town on the north—east coast of england, the council decision is not always backed up by local people. it is one of the least diverse parts of the country and the lack of local services here is a common complaint. this is my shop here. i've been here in loftus business for 27 years. when we heard the asylum seekers were coming to loftus we were told that this was the building that they were going to be housed in. it only has one entrance to the building. it is above a pizza shop. i think the children would have just hounded them. the children, at this time a night now, would have
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been gathering outside the pizza shop and it would have just escalated after they had been drinking. what do you say to those people who say they have probably come from civil war in syria where they have seen worse than a pizza shop and a few kids? but they should not be victimised when they come to another country. we don't want them to come here and think this is what england is like. it is not like that. but the way g45 and the council did it, it was, itjust was not right. it was not fair to make us look as though we are horrible and we're not. so, you're not racist? not at all. well we can talk a bit more about integration and some of the problems facing refugees and asylum seekers with sleman shwaish — who arrived from syria in 2012 and is close to the refugee family at the centre of that attack in huddersfield. he's in our leeds studio. here with me are abdulaziz almashi who came here from syria 2012. he's co—founder of the syria solidarity campaign which works with recent arrivals
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from the country and dave brown who's the head of migration yorkshire. migration yorkshire is charged with integrating new arrivals in the region. you are close to the family in the huddersfield case. the sun and the daughter have both been attacked at school. and those videos emerging. obviously, we do not want to identify them but how is the family coping? firstly, thank you for having me. basically, i can describe how they are feeling. you can see what happened to them. they have tried to report what happened in october that they feel that nobody took action or nobody cared. they have been here since october.
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both of the videos have now been published, and it made them more scared, not feeling safe. as a family friend, i try my best to just be very close to them and support the victim and the family. as i say, it is that i cannot even describe how they are feeling. and is this an isolated incident or something other refugees coming to britain are experiencing? what has your experience been? by mike came i personally had many issues and i came to the uk in 2012 and my english was not good. a big issue for asylum seekers and refugees that they could not even speaking flesh and it will be so difficult for them to report or complain or how to deal
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with the law in the uk or how to contact the police. for me personally when i came here, the home office was saying it would send you to another city, to relocate you all rehouse you until you get a letter to be interviewed by the home office and they will take the decision. so they sent me to sunderland and i can member when they sent me there, earlier in 2013, i know it might be just they sent me there, earlier in 2013, i know it might bejust a they sent me there, earlier in 2013, i know it might be just a funny thing but when i arrived, after that, my neighbours started to throw eggs on my window, which, first of all i had a feeling that it might be something cultural or it was part of a festival or a cultural thing to welcome a new arrival but i then saw how he was really angry and shouting and just smiling. after a few days i woke up and saw somebodyjust trying
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to block the garden gate by putting rubbishjust too to block the garden gate by putting rubbish just too tried to block me or block the gate so i would not be allowed to go from my garden and, like, after ten or 15 days i came back from the centre in sunderland to my home and somebodyjust crossed me and he opened the window and threw a bottle of beer on me. so it was many issues happening personally to me. for myself it was not the best place to stay in sunderland. as i work very close with asylum seekers and refugees as part of my job i was here about their issues. i am not going to say it is from eve ryo ne am not going to say it is from everyone but there are some people who are anti—refugees, anti—asylum seekers, who are like, they tried
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a lwa ys seekers, who are like, they tried always to not protect these people and even to not deal with those people. do stay with us. i also want to bring in abdul aziz and dave about their experiences. abdul, how common are the experiences you have had with the people you work within this country? to be honest, i did not think they were that many. recently we took a call on the same forum asking people if they have been subjected to hate crimes. i personally went to many people who expressed how they were subject to hate crimes and it was all over the country. give us some examples. a man and his wife were shot near exeter. the shooter missed the target. at 23 years old, he was
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arrested by the police. that is one incident. another in bolton in manchester. somebody told me we woke up manchester. somebody told me we woke up early in the morning and we found a pig 's head on our doorstep. a child, after the terrorist attacks in manchester, he was abused in school and told, you came here to kill us. his parents went to the school and actually words take —— and action was taken immediately. many incidents all across the country. in london, in tottenham, the gentleman told me how someone we nt the gentleman told me how someone went to tesco to buy stuff. in the evening his wife is back home and he said someone tried to break into the house. he called the police. he thought it was a robbery but it was shocking because, three days later, the same group apparently came and
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broke whiskey bottles on their windows. a couple of days later they we re windows. a couple of days later they were abusing them with racial remarks in the street. this is really big, unfortunately. it is yourjob to help with integration in yorkshire. we do know there is a huge amount of asylum seekers who have come to yorkshire. yorkshire and humberside have 5000 refugees in the community. what challenges do you base with integrating with the local community the new arrivals? there are quite a lot of challenges for refugees and the local communities themselves. sometimes local communities look at it from another perspective. they do not know what is going on around them and they are unprepared. the challenge they sometimes base is the way things are sometimes betrayed by politicians and the media which has a real impact on what they think. it is not that they are targeting
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refugees, it might just is not that they are targeting refugees, it mightjust be they are foreign and they look different, something they do not understand and they have been told it is a problem. for people themselves, they are in a com pletely for people themselves, they are in a completely new country. they often have not had a choice where they go to. the system of support around them, the syrian programme there is a comprehensive level of support. in the asylum programme there is less local control around them. it is the responsibility of everyone in a community. i wonder if we pick up on what andy burnham said. the north—west of england hosts 25% of the national population of asylum applicants and support 70% of those in greater manchester. there are certain parts of the country where there are no asylum seekers, 180 local authorities across the country have no asylum seekers at all. is
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there also a problem that too many people are being sent to certain areas and local people feel uncomfortable for whatever reason? there is a sense in some communities that this has been accumulative impact. we had that reported to us andi impact. we had that reported to us and i think it was clear the home affairs committee and other places where it has taken place. everyone wa nts a where it has taken place. everyone wantsafair where it has taken place. everyone wants a fair system, therefore refugees and local communities. that isa refugees and local communities. that is a way to bring things together. people sense of unfairness. a lot of response in the last few days has been the very british response of fairness and wanting to stick up for the underdog. do you think it would be better if asylum seekers was bred or evenly across the country?m might help. if i compared to the numberof might help. if i compared to the number of refugees that have been taken number of refugees that have been ta ken by number of refugees that have been taken by germany, i mean britain did not take anything compared to the huge number of germany in 2015.
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they'd to 1 huge number of germany in 2015. they'd toi million refugees and they managed to deal with all of them. it has not be ideal in germany. i know it has not been. in germany. i know it has not been. in germany there is an integration programme. they know their rights and have a chance to learn a language. and people will be easily integrated in the community. we talk about integration and we always blame refugees are not being able to integrate but it has to come from both sides. if there is no willingness from the outside i will never be able to integrate. thank you for coming in. school pupils from across australia have taken part in a day of strikes calling for action on climate change. thousands attended rallies in sydney, melbourne and brisbane despite being told to stay in school by the australian prime minister. we do not support our schools being
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turned into parliament. what we want is more learning in schools unless activism in schools. we can now speak to harriet o'shea carre, one of the 14—year—olds who helped organise the strike — but first let's hear her in action giving a speech to one of the rallys. to all the politicians who know they could be helping save our futures but turned away. there is no plan b. australia needs you now. you have been elected with the expectation that you will do what is in the best interest of the country. do not let us interest of the country. do not let us down. thank you forjoining us, harriet. i use iusea i use a prized by the number of people who turned out? yes,
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definitely. it is incredible how many people have come. —— are you surprised that i was astonished with all the people from castlemaine. i saw everyone on the steps of parliament house. so many people! where did it all start? what was the germ of the idea on how did you pull it together? my friends read an article about a 15—year—old swedish girl who had been striking outside the front of the swedish parliament. she told me about that and we immediately were like, we must do this in australia because we're both ina this in australia because we're both in a position where we are so terrified about our future and what's going to happen. it is so unsure, so one what's going to happen. it is so unsure, so one table —— so unstable, our position right now. this is the perfect sting. did it grow through
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social media? yes, well, there were eight couple of strikes prior to the main event that gained publicity. we have been going up to our local mp's offices and tried to talk to them and talk to people on the streets. we read articles in newspapers and things. yes. they need just through social media and things. some people already care about a lot. lots of people are looking for somewhere to channel their feelings. this is people are looking for somewhere to channel theirfeelings. this is a great solution. what do you make of the australian prime minister slapping you down and saying you should be in school? you should be studying. the people in power are not sorting this out for that this is why we have to strike for them if
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we continue to live the way we do, by 2015, climate scientists predict half a billion out of the 9 billion people on this planet will survive. the chances that i survived that are so the chances that i survived that are so low and the chances that everyone and everything will survive are practically impossible. we cannot bear that. politicians will not deal with that. if they do not do that we have to make them. congratulations on getting so many people to turn out in australia. in stanley, pupils were attacking police officers. i live near stanley and we had anti—social behaviour for two years. and we had anti—social behaviour for two yea rs. we and we had anti—social behaviour for two years. we phoned the police unaided not do anything about it. the police ask for their names. when
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we say, no, it does not quite come together. thank you for your comments. hello. good morning. after the turbulent weather yesterday today is much more tranquil for many parts of the uk. some lovely sunshine at their the moment. this is a scene in norfolk. the sea is not as rough as yesterday. we have lots of sunshine as you can see yesterday. we have lots of sunshine as you can see here on yesterday. we have lots of sunshine as you can see here on the map for the rest of the day. some showers moving into the western areas but they are few and far between. more frequent showers across the west of scotla nd frequent showers across the west of scotland northern ireland and the far north—west of england. temperatures getting up to seven to
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13 celsius. the showers will continue in the north. clear spells in the north and east down towards the south—west. this area of rain will start to move its way in. temperatures at about four to seven celsius with a touch of frost in the north. the weekend is quite difficult to summarise but there is rain in the forecast primarily on saturday and sunday mornings before things brighten up into the afternoon. goodbye. you're watching bbc newsroom live. it's 11.00, and these are the main stories this morning. tackling type 2 diabetes — the nhs is to offer thousands a low—calorie, liquid diet in a bid to reverse the condition.
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