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hello this is bbc news with ben brown. the headlines: more pressure on theresa may's brexit deal as labourjoins forces with other parties to try to force the government to publish its legal advice. at the 620 summit, the united states and china agree to stop additional tariffs and prevent a further escalation of their trade war. teachers must not be expected to act as substitute parents, according to the chief inspector of schools. representatives from almost 200 countries gather in poland for crucial talks on climate change. they will focus on how to limit global temperature rises, and try to breath new life into the paris agreement. before the papers, sport and for a full round—up from the bbc sport centre, here's olly foster. good morning. hello. we will start with the
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boxing. tyson fury‘s heavyweight title fight against deontay wilder ended in a controversial draw in los angeles. that means the american keeps his wbc belt. fury, the former world champion, only returned to the ring this year after two and a half years out with issues with addictions and depression. fury looked to be in control, out—boxing the unbeaten american and causing a lot of problems with his jab. but he started to get caught in the later rounds. he went down in the ninth and was then hit with a ferocious combination in the final round. he looked to be knocked spark out but got off the canvas and made it to the final bell. many commentators thought fury was still ahead on points, but the judges were split, one giving it to wilder, one to fury, and thejudge from england calling it a draw. a lot of reaction to that tie coming up but let's hear from the boxers. it was what it was. i enjoyed every
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second of it. i will not complain about robbery i will leave what the audience to decide what they thought. two men tried their ha rd est, thought. two men tried their hardest, the trend for ten weeks, doucoure sacrifices in and came on in great shape. very fit and it showed. i hope everyone enjoyed it as much as we did and i am sure we will put on a great showing second fight. i do not know how he got up, you know. i do not know why they did not start to count earlier, but we did not make any excuses. i started overthrowing my right hand because i really wanted to get him out of there. it felt like he had baby oil on him. he was slippery. all in all, i had a lot of fun, i had a great time, and i hope you guys did as well. you will see me soon. tyson fury was hinting at a rematch.
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there is plenty of reaction on social media, firstly from a man who has held the wbc belt, frank bruno, who says "daylight robbery" of the split decision. anotherformer heavyweight champion, lennox lewis, who thinks fury will win the rematch. "i just saw tyson fury come back from drugs, depression, "two years of inactivity and massive weight loss to outbox "the wbc heavyweight champion, who was gifted a draw! "in a rematch, i can only imagine "that he will be even better prepared." and fury‘s promoter, frank warren, has tweeted a photo of fury with the wbc belt saying, "this is how the night should have ended." there could be a possible rematch, oi’ there could be a possible rematch, or wilder could face anthonyjoshua in april at wembley. lots of deals to be done over christmas. now to the football. it's derby day in the premier league this afternoon. chelsea—fulham, arsenal—spurs and then
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liverpool against everton, so expect some movement in the top four, but no—one‘s catching manchester city today. they are five points clear at the top after a 3—1 win over bournemouth at the etihad stadium. it was 1—1 at half—time before second half goals from raheem sterling and ilkay gundogan made sure the champions remain unbeaten in the league. in the first half, we were flat, we were not on the pace that we are normally able to play. in the second half, after ten minutes, one action from raheem and when fabian delph came in, we changed our duels and our aggression to get into it. in the second half, we were like normal, we tried to be. jose mourinho say his manchester united team lack "mad—dogs" in midfield. they found themselves 2—0 down at southampton. the saints are in the relegation but were in dreamland
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after 20 minutes with goals from stuart armstrong and cedric. united equalised by half—time through romelu lukaku and ander herrera. it finished 2—2. united are seventh, 16 points off the top. we don't start well many, many times and today you had a reason for that little bit of fragility because mctominay and matic were completely out of position. to have more continuity in your attacking waves, you cannot lose the ball so easily and we lost the ball many, many times. ten—man huddersfield were beaten 2—1 at home by brighton, despite scoring in the first minute of the game. level at the break, summer signing florin andone scored his first goal for brighton to seal their first league win since october. also victories for leicester city,
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crystal palace and west ham. the floodlights went off twice in the scottish premiership game between kilmarnock and hibernian but that didn't stop killie moving up to second in the table. nosebleed time for them. they won 3—0. eamon brophy scored two of the goals. elsewhere, there were wins for livingston and hamilton. it's the scottish league cup final at hampden park this afternoon, celtic facing aberdeen. there are eight more ties in the fa cup second round this afternoon. no major uspets yesterday. non—league maidstone united missed out on a first appearance in the third round since the ‘80s. they were beaten 2—0 by old ham athletic, the league one side easing to victory in the end through goals from peter clarke and chris 0'grady. you can watch all the fa cup goals on the bbc sport website. there are eight more ties this afternoon. a ninth straight rugby union premiership win sent saracens back to the top of the table. the unbeaten champions beat wasps 29—6 at allianz park. the match was close for an hour before late tries from jamie george and then this interception
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from nick isekwa made the scoreline more comfortable. bristol, gloucester and newcastle were also winners yesterday. glasgow warriors withstood a scarlets fight—back to go seven points clear at the top of their pro 14 conference. warriors scored tries in each half through brandon thomson and nick grigg. thomson also made the difference with his boot and scored 2a points in total as glasgow won, 29—20. the four—time world champion john higgins has hinted that he might retire from snooker after losing to fellow scot alan mcmanus in the second round of the uk championship in york. mcmanus came from 5—3 down to win the match 6—5. higgins failed to make a break over 50. he said it was the wost he had ever felt in his career. uk championship snooker coverage continues across the bbc. i will be back with more sport after ten
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o'clock. now it is time for the papers. hello and welcome to our sunday morning paper review. with me are the sunday times‘ rosamund urwin and political commentator james millar. welcome to you both. thanks for being with us. let's take a look at the front pages. the observer leads on reports that centralfigures in labour are urging the party to be ready to campaign for a possible second referendum on europe. the sunday times says the democratic unionist party willjoin forces with labour and other opposition parties in a bid to force the government to publish its legal advice on brexit, a move that could delay the crucial vote on theresa may's brexit plan. and it's a leak of that legal
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advice from the attorney general which makes the front page of the sunday times. the paper says the government had suppressed geoffrey cox's warning that britain would be trapped "indefinitely" in a customs union with brussels if mps back theresa may's brexit deal. all to do with the backstop agreement. the sunday express says senior government figures have told the paper that if mps throw out the prime minister's deal then the government is likely to put down an amendment that keeps britain in the customs union. the online independent continues the brexit theme, claiming a new poll suggests that the majority of the public want to see proponents of both no—deal and a second referendum join in any brexit tv debate between jeremy corbyn and theresa may. the mail on sunday splashes on news that a high—level security alert has been issued at every military base in britain after a russian tv
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crew was allegedly caught "spying" at the uk's secret cyber warfare headquarters. so a mix of stories there, but as ever brexit dominating. 0nly nine days until the key vote in the house of commons. talk us through the story in the sunday times. just when you thought brexit could not get any more complicated and byzantine, it has. we are talking about legal advice and co nte m pt of talking about legal advice and contempt of parliament warnings. explain it all. this is seen as very sensitive legal advise that the big complaint is that theresa may is refusing to publish this. what we will get tomorrow is geoffrey cox, the attorney general, giving a statement to parliament which outlines the government's legal position on it. within that, a summary position on it. within that, a summary statement will be made of the advice but not the letter itself. this letter is one that he wrote, it was seen as so sensitive that numbered copies of the paper
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we re that numbered copies of the paper were taken from ministers after they had raided but what the sunday times, my paper, saying, is that within that advice, geoffrey cox it said the protocol would injure indefinitely, and that means that britain would be stuck in a customs union with brussels indefinitely. if mps do back theresa may's deal. that isa mps do back theresa may's deal. that is a big if. this letter was not allowed to leave the room after people had read it, so of course, nobody is exactly, apart on the ministers who have read it, no one is sure what it said and the big argument from the other political parties is that this needs to be published. the reason it is so important is the word indefinitely and that is what the brexiteers fear, that the backstop arrangement will keep us tied to the eu for yea rs will keep us tied to the eu for years to come. you will not be surprised to learn it is complicated. it is an definite until we signa
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complicated. it is an definite until we sign a new agreement, which is what we will move on to when we have left the eu, we go on to a future agreement about the trade steel and the rest of it. in that sense, yes, it is indefinite, but the expectation is we will come up with the new arrangement with you, so it will end, but yes, the brexiteers will end, but yes, the brexiteers will say, what if that does not happen? there is lots of talk about being trapped in the customs union. the language is fascinating. certain people would suggest it is a safety net, not the trap and it is a good thing to be in the customs union. lots of people in ireland would say that because that is the key to not having a hard border between northern ireland and the republic. an insurance policy is the way the backstop is often viewed. the same story really in the sunday telegraph but they are saying that labour and the democratic unionists are uniting to force the prime minister's and on this. two are published as legal
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advice. they are not normally bedfellows. this is a bit like my enemy's enemy is my friend. they have a common interest in wanting this advice published, the dup and labour, and also the lib dems and the snp want this. what is being suggested is that they will write a joint letter to the speaker. theoretically, the speaker, as senior ministers are worried about, could see that the government is in co nte m pt of could see that the government is in contempt of parliament by not publishing this full advice. i guess thatis publishing this full advice. i guess that is what will be pushed for if it does not get published. that is what will be pushed for if it does not get publishedlj that is what will be pushed for if it does not get published. i do not mean to be boring but it is complicated. we have been here before. we had this around the war in iraq. publish legal advice and the government always says, no, the rule is you do not publish legal advice, it stays behind closed doors. hence, we baby in contempt of parliament would be not? that is a
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tricky call. in the end, it might be obscure but it does not help theresa may in her campaign to get more mps to vote for her deal and at the moment everyone says the maths is stacked against her, with maybe a majority against her deal of 95, maybe 100 mps. quite, she does not seem maybe 100 mps. quite, she does not seem to be winning people over and she has now had resignations from both sides, from the remainers andy moore are ardent believers. 0ne both sides, from the remainers andy moore are ardent believers. one of the people who has been scathing about the backstop, unsurprisingly, is the former brexit secretary, dominic raab. all the papers are listing whole ranges of scenarios, seven 01’ listing whole ranges of scenarios, seven or eight different scenarios if she loses the vote in nine days' time. the front page of the observer is key labour figures are getting the party ready to go through the gears and prepare for a new brexit
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referendum. that is a fairly conservative number for the possible outcomes. it is a terrible headline. inside the labour party there has been pressure for a new brexit opinion poll for the past six months. what is new is that things are moving in parliament and the second pole is beginning to come into view. but the question remains, what is the question? if you have a second referendum, what will the question be, what will be on the ballot paper, and nobody can answer that. it is all well saying, let's have a second referendum but what are you asking, remain or leave again, dealer no deal, are they the only two on the table? what about this tv debate betweenjeremy corbyn and theresa may? lots of people are saying that does not encompass all of opinion? there is pressure to put somebody who is backing remain and
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somebody who is backing remain and somebody who is saying no deal, their positions are not too far apart for politicians who theoretically also farah part on everything else. it is interesting. i don't think, obviously political journalists are at a point where they feel rather scathing about the whole thing, somewhat inevitably, because corbyn doesn't have a very clear position still, it isn't clear where labour is going to go. 0bviously, john mcdonnell is sort of suggesting the possibility but we still have called in saying no. in terms of a second referendum. in terms of a second referendum. in terms of a second referendum. in terms of a second referendum, yes, and we have theresa may who now has and we have theresa may who now has a clear position, very unpopular one, but they aren't really far enough apart, i feel, one, but they aren't really far enough apart, ifeel, to have what would constitute a working debate. james comey keith hill a tv debate would shed new light on the whole issue and help the public and help mps? it is hard to see how, at this stage, people are not getting one
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over, the numbers do not move in theresa may's way. there must be something, theresa may is very hard to read, she doesn't gossip, there must be some master plan up her sleeve. master plan if loses the vote ? sleeve. master plan if loses the vote? to win the vote, because otherwise she is walking into gunfire, why would she be carrying on like this and is a debate really going to change the mind of 100 mp5? absolutely not. i have a different reading. 0bviously, absolutely not. i have a different reading. obviously, we are all going to get this wrong but i have a reading that she knows she's going to lose this at this point but she is on to lose this at this point but she isona to lose this at this point but she is on a path that she has to take she knows it is a necessary step and thenit she knows it is a necessary step and then it is what comes next that she's planning for and that is watch they are doing behind—the—scenes. she's planning for and that is watch they are doing behind-the-scenes. he think she is all ready planning for a second vote in parliament. yes, but i think i'm wrong. a second vote in parliament. yes, but i think i'm wronglj a second vote in parliament. yes, but i think i'm wrong. i think we allare, but i think i'm wrong. i think we all are, nobody knows what is happening. inspire us with
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confidence! let's move away from brexit, also on the front pages of the observer, this morning from the 0fsted chief amanda spielman, schools can't be substitute parents, what you make of that, rosamund?” am sympathetic to her argument, she is raising the issue around knife crime, obesity, and obviously it isn't only up to schools, schools have their duty to do their part in that but, obviously, kids that are eating one meal a day in theory, obviously they are having breakfast at school as well, you have to set boundaries as parents and she is saying that teachers can play a role in educating children about these issues but the problems do lie elsewhere to address.” issues but the problems do lie elsewhere to address. i think we have a slight difference of opinion on this. kids are in school for five or six hours a day, they are substitute parents. you hand your children over to the teacher and they have the duty of the care. surely it is about the role, parents
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have a role and teachers have a role. but teachers do have a big responsibility to these kids they are looking after, and to teach them. it doesn't just are looking after, and to teach them. it doesn'tjust mean times tables, as michael gove may have it, there is broad education and they have a role in that, healthy eating, not carrying knives. one of the point she's making is that kids arriving atjunior point she's making is that kids arriving at junior school not point she's making is that kids arriving atjunior school not toilet trained and parents need to get their act together on that. we had a debate on this earlier. i have friends were primary school teachers they has said this is an issue, you get kids that four who are still wearing nappies. covering brexit three—year, i am wearing nappies. covering brexit three—year, lam not wearing nappies. covering brexit three—year, i am not massively cynical, but i have never seen any evidence that this plague of kids turn up... what has brexit got to do this? itjust makes you very cynical. this idea that kids turn up not toilet train, i have never seen any evidence for it. i'm not saying it is not true, ijust approach it with extreme scepticism. but you
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don't work at a junior school. absolutely, so bring me the evidence. she is chief inspector of the mail on sunday, russian tv spies caught at secret army base. tell us more about that, rosamund. this is a journalist, well, that'll be the defence, caught at a military base in berkshire, where the uk sort of has its secret cyber warfare waged you. the 77th brigade, a top secret army unit that works alongside m15, mi6 and the sas, apparently. army unit that works alongside m15, m16 and the sas, apparently. so what they do is they do cyber on terror networks and combating propaganda, things on the dark web, and that is their specialty. this russian crew outside the base, not inside. no, they were filming outside and you are right, they didn't get into the base. however, they have now issued a warning saying, please don't go and talk to these russian
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journalists standing outside. they told the troops? not to engage in, station. it seems pretty basic in the security service. when the headline says russian spies, it is allegedly. they have a professor of the director of security intelligence studies at the university of buckingham who says they are definitely spies, soviet spies for putin's regime and it is deeply concerning. it is not particularly good spying because the report the guy made has now gone out on russian telly, but as the report says, there is fake news in it. they used footage from a different video and presented it as being related to this base, so it is certainly a bit dodgy. and obviously, they claim the salisbury attackers break news. -- was fake news. the sunday telegraph, charting the rise in the number of
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migrants risking their lives to come across the channel in boats to get to the british coast. this is a story to watch, i think, a lot of papers are picking up on this and just beginning to get a handle on it. we hear increasingly of migrants using boats to get across the channel, partly, ithink, because the jungle has been closed down in calais and partly because the border for so doing a good job of checking lorries, sevigny to find other ways to get into the uk. obviously, taking a little vote across the channel is extremely dangerous and not very wise at all and is going to do the treasury and cover if it hasn't already. they're already bodies washing up and the mystery of who they are and this will grow over the winter. there are pictures elsewhere of the votes they are in and it does look like a terrifying thing to be attempting. obviously, they have rescued a number of people trying to make this crossing, who have ended up in trouble but there have ended up in trouble but there have been a couple of bodies that
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have been a couple of bodies that have washed up and, from what i understand, couple haven't been identified, so they don't know who they are. it is horrific. dramatic violence in paris over the weekend, james. full—scale riots, right in the city centre of paris, right around the arc de triomphe, all about prices, fuel prices in particular. fantastic picture on the sunday telegraph and i think it inside the sunday times, they call themselves the yellow vests, one of themselves the yellow vests, one of them waving the trick alert while standing atop a pile of christmas trees —— the tricolor. the issue, it seems trees —— the tricolor. the issue, it seems to be general unhappiness with president macron's regime, particularly focused on petrol prices. i mean, it does sort of him that he is indeed the new tony blair because he had a big petrol prices
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not long into his... and the french tend to go a bit more, notjust a blockade. and it is a story that will run and run. eight won't be the last of the protests. and he's not dealing with it, he's not there this weekend. and finally, not the most important story but interesting non—malays, a about avocados causing climate change. very clever, avocadon't. the trendy superfood causing the death of the planet! you like avocados? they are supposed to be good for your skin. but this story, the big ridiculous line about millennial is, the reason they can't afford houses is because they are too busy eating avocado and spending money on that that this is saying all of these fashionable cafes are
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worried about sustainability and you have to fly these avocados 5,000 miles across the world to get here and, also, there are problems to do with mexican drug cartels controlling them... avocado cartels, years. so, effectively, we shouldn't be eating them. we both live either side of the london hipster conclaves, as it is described. are there lots of trendy cafes near you? there are and they serve up smashed avocado on toast. £8 50 for one in the cafe in question here, which is based in a yurt, apparently. that is very hipster. it is a great story, because it is a classic sunday story, some people will read it and say, idiot hipsters, what are they doing spinning a pounds 50 on an avocado and others will go, that is
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the millennial is' problem, they are spending a pounds 50. it is not really about avocado, it is about society, if you want and it is a great talking point. if you are in a cafe having smashed avocado on toast this morning and you open the paper, it will spoil your morning. none of the hipsters read the mail on sunday. they are reading the observer, 100%. all right, thank you very much, nice to have you with us, as usual. that is it from our sunday morning edition of the papers. you can see the front pages of the paper online and on our website and if you missed the programme, you can see it later on our bbc iplayer. thank you to my guest and goodbye from others. —— getss. hello, there. much of the country started sunday off on a cloudy but rather mild note and this weather watcher pictures sent in from cheshire illustrates the point quite clearly, but we did have a chilly
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started the far north, in scotland, and that is where the driest of the weather will be but we are surrounded by weather fronts weather will be but we are surrounded by weatherfronts pushing in from the atlantic, a milder westerly wind goes with it across the south of the country and that will continue to drive in plenty of showers along those west facing coasts. with it, gust of wind in excess of 35, a0 mph. further north, clearer skies but a cooler feel. lighter winds, yes, but temperatures are going to struggle, so we will see a real difference, despite one or two showers across the northern and western isles, a maximum of 7 degrees for the south, highest values of 1a—16, way above where we should be per this time of year. through the night, more showery rain will move out of southern island, southern scotland. those perhaps staying in double figures for the south where as we are still in that influence of cold air up to scotland, solo single figures here not out of the question. but, still
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under the influence of this atlantic flow for most of us, still mild and still, at times, wet. that is going to be the theme as we go into the week so we will see a band of rain moving its way through south—west england, wales, northern england during the day on monday. a little bit ragged. further north, the northerly flow keeping conditions dry but not particularly warm. highest values on monday may be 11-1adc. the highest values on monday may be 11—1adc. the northerly flow influencing the story in scotland digs its way a little bit further south of the started tuesday morning, so choose they could be the cold est start morning, so choose they could be the coldest start throughout the week as we start to see the cooler air pushing its way further south. not for long, milder air pushing its way further south. not for long, milderairwaiting in the wings is set to return but worth bearing in mind if you are up and offer early on tuesday morning that we could see a wide widespread frost across the country, but it will be a dry and bright start with the best of the sunshine and it won't be long
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before weight and whether pushes into the south—west and it drags in milder air. so cooler to the north, staying mile down to the south. take care. “— staying mile down to the south. take care. —— staying mild. this is bbc news. i'm ben brown. the headlines at 10: more pressure on theresa may's brexit deal as labourjoins forces with other parties to press the government to publish its legal advice. for the government to say, on the one hand, we're not going to vote against the order being made and then to round, if it does turn round tomorrow and say, we're not going to comply with the order, is to get themselves into really deep water. at the g20 summit, the united states and china agree to stop additional tariffs and prevent a further escalation of their trade war. teachers must not be expected to act as substitute parents, according to the chief inspector of schools. also this hour, representatives from almost 200 countries gather in poland
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for talks on climate change. the talks will focus on how to limit global temperature rises, and try to breath new life

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