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this is bbc news, i'm annita mcveigh. the headlines at 11. the most senior advisor to the european court ofjustice advises the uk could effetively cancel brexit without asking for permission. the numbers looking? we are feeling very confident. the chief whip says he thinks theresa may's brexit deal will pass the commons, the prime minister will open five days of debate this afternoon. before that mps will vote on whether the uk government broke parliament's rules by failing to publish the full legal advice it received on the brexit plan. the other main stories at 11 on bbc newsoom live. the french government will suspend a fuel tax rise which has led to weeks of violent protests. the schools inspection service, ofsted, says it's a "scandal" that thousands of children in england with special needs are missing out on key support. outrage
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as the first woman to win the ballon d'or is asked if she twerks, but ada hegerberg laughs it off i ching to me after and he was really sad that it went that way. —— he came to me after. i did not think about it in that moment, i did not think of it as a sexual harassment. good morning live from westminster. europe's top legal official says the uk could effectively cancel brexit without asking for permission. the non—binding opinion was delivered by the european court
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ofjustice's advocate general who said it would be acceptable for the uk to revoke article 50 unilaterally. a group of scottish politicians asked the court whether the uk can cancel brexit without the consent of other member states. the court ofjustice will deliver a final ruling at a later date. let's look at this closer now with our brussels reporter adam fleming. this is an opinion as we mentioned from the chief legal adviser to the ecj, the advocate general. how likely is it that this opinion will be followed through in that final ruling from the ec]? historically thejudges ruling from the ec]? historically the judges follow the opinion of the advocate general about 75 or 80% of the time, so that would suggest that is quite likely but of course there is quite likely but of course there is no guarantee because that means one third of the time that they don't. the fact is that campaigners
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who have been fighting for this, fighting this case, first in the scottish courts and then having seen the effect of the european court of justice in luxembourg when it was subject to a hearing last week, they are over the moon about this because they say it gives mps another option to bear in mind when they vote on the final brexit deal at westminster next week. it is also, they said, a powerful tool in the campaign for another referendum on the uk's membership of the eu because it causes off that argument or that worry that some people have that the uk could stay in the eu but they might be subject to extra conditions, for example signing up to the euro. the argument would be that if you can drop your article 50 brexit notification unilaterally in other countries do not have the opportunity to impose any conditions on you. but this is a blow for the uk government because they would argue that the ec] should not be relied on this at all because the government view is that it was a hypothetical clinical question,
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something that would never happen and if it did happen would be intensely political. and it should not be a matter for the european court ofjustice. the ec] or its advocates general saying it is definitely a matter for them to consider. thank you. interesting news from the ec] to consider as here at westminster the prime minister will urge mps to back her brexit deal once again this afternoon. theresa may will begin five days of debate in the house of commons on her brexit plan before the crunch vote on december 11th. but before she even addresses mps her government will come in for intense criticism over claims it's in contempt of parliament by refusing to publish the full legal guidance given to ministers about the withdrawal agreement. the debate on the contempt motion will happen first — expected to start around 12.30. if it loses it will be the first time a government has been held in contempt of parliament in modern history. but despite what it says in some of the newspapers this morning.
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the contempt motion does not call for any sanctions against ministers, and it is unclear whether it would force the government to publish the legal advice in full. afterwards the house will start five days of debate leading to the meaningful vote on the brexit agreement. the house of commons is expected to consider the issue for eight hours a day during the debate. the meaningful vote itself is due to take place in the evening of the 11th of december, with all current predictions showing strong opposition to the prime minister's deal. 0ur political correspondent iain watson reports. theresa may has been touring the country and tv studios trying to sell the brexit deal, but today she will face the most demanding audience of all — her fellow politicians. butjust before she begins five days of debate on the deal, mps will discuss whether ministers are in contempt for failing to publish the legal advice which parliament demanded last month. last night, the commons speaker
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granted an emergency debate, to be held around lunchtime today. i have considered the matter carefully, and i am satisfied that there is an arguable case that contempt has been committed. if theresa may is defeated and government ministers are found in contempt, this is likely to be seen more as a distraction than a disaster. a committee of mps would have to consider what action to take. the government's accusing opposition politicians of playing politics. i think it's a complete diversion from what the public are expecting to hear. we're going to have five days of important debate about the merits of brexit, the withdrawal agreement. let's get on with that and stop messing about with process. what is significant is that one of the opposition parties who want to see the legal advice is none other than northern ireland's dup, and their mps usually prop up prime minister's minority government, so this could be the shape of things to come. the really big vote isn't today, it's next week when mps decide
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whether to back the brexit deal. but today's debate may give a clue to the scale of opposition that the prime minister's likely to face. iain watson, bbc news. joining me is chloe smith, who's the minister for the constitution and labour's shadow brexit ministerjenny chapman. good morning to both of you on what is another extremely busy and extremely important stay here at westminster. an important day for the whole of the uk. corey smith, you are backing the prime minister's deal. do you think like the chief whip said that she has a realistic prospect of getting that deal? yes i do andi prospect of getting that deal? yes i do and i think it is the only deal available sire backing because i think it does what was asked about by the country, it takes back
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control of our laws and borders. i think also it contains a very good deal in the form of the future partnerships or i am looking forward to the debate, i think it is important that we get on and deliver at this moment. we know that there are many other mps including the dup at the dome of the status of the arrangement with the moment but it certainly cease to be very unstable. they say they will not back this deal and now today the european court ofjustice from the advocate general we have an opinion suggesting that there could be a third way, that the uk could unilaterally withdraw from this brexit process. so surely that will make more mps liable to not back the premise's deal if the unsure about it. i don't think it's changes anything, the judgment is it. i don't think it's changes anything, thejudgment is only provisional in any case in the uk government will not change course, we are delivering on the results of the referendum but as we think that is the right thing to do. the judge
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by the court is not important to the debate, members of parliament would be well advised to look at the deal in front of them and see how it delivers for constituents the country. ]enny chapman is a labour do you think the opinion from the ecj's advocate general is supported oi’ ecj's advocate general is supported or not? i do not think it is a surprise, we have felt that article 50 should the uk decided to proceed that the eu 27 would accommodate that the eu 27 would accommodate that and they have said as much previously so in a sense i agree with corley on that point. i disagree with her on the deal and about what is likely to happen in the vote but i think only really today in the provisional ruling today, i don't think that is greatly chaining people's minds as they consider the deal. and do you think that there is anyone who would be changing their minds, even taking this ruling out by this opinion out of the equation, do you think very from to persuade people over the next five days? 0r
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from to persuade people over the next five days? or are mps pretty much fixed in their positions? you have five days of debate and mps do like to listen to the arguments in full, that is one of the reasons we have asked for legal advice, so we can make a decision in possession of all the facts. we have this document, we have been debating it, it has been discussed thoroughly. i think there is limited prospect now for people to change their minds and certainly no prospect i would have thought of as a vote being carried by the house of commons on the 11th. you will not change your mind, will you? i will not, i think it is you will not change your mind, will you? iwill not, ithink it is a you will not change your mind, will you? i will not, i think it is a bad deal about the country so i want be changing my mind. curry that is applied, will mps release it on the fence you might be persuaded one way 01’ fence you might be persuaded one way or the other? i'm sure mps will listen to debate, but i think opponents of this deal have a bit of explaining to do is to what they think the alternative is, it is the only one on the table that will deliver brexit and give us the future prosperity that is anybody to a constituent in the country.|j
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future prosperity that is anybody to a constituent in the country. i want to ask you about what happens if the prime minister's deal is not voted through, because of course everyone has to think about that, we are only seven days away from that possibility. can you imagine an ordeal scenario? i think this deal is the better thing to be thinking about, we should be thinking about the merits of this deal, i have been setting out clearly what i think the merits are, as has the prime minister. that is what we should focus on. no mp, especially conservative mps will be standing here today thinking, well, if next wednesday morning if this deal has not gone through what are we going to do? you have got to be thinking about the alternatives. and i presume that you don't want to go down the route of an ordeal.|j presume that you don't want to go down the route of an ordeal. i think no deal would be unwise, and i also find alternative deal has not been articulated, so this deal is the option, this is the deal with looking at. what about the possibility set out by the advocate general this morning? that the uk
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withdrawing from brexit, from that process unilaterally without leaving the consent of the other 27. as i read a handset that is not the right thing to do. the uk government will continue with our position which is to deliver the outcome of the referendum and deliver a prosperous brexit. would that be better than no deal? that is what we intend to do, with the deal on the table, the right deal, and hard work has gone into that. no alternative has been explained. that is a fair point, criticism made by many people that labour has not set out in full and alternative. it is closed to make criticism of the opposition and fair play to call it for the way she does that, ina play to call it for the way she does that, in a very nice way, but the labour party has laid out a realistic alternative using a closer leash and shipped to the single market and a customs union, we want to do that looks like that and believe that even at this late stage that it believe that even at this late stage thatitis believe that even at this late stage that it is possible. the deal we
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have two large extent is asking the country, notjust have two large extent is asking the country, not just mps, have two large extent is asking the country, notjust mps, but the country, notjust mps, but the country, to take a leap of faith and we don't think that this is a firm basis upon which to proceed. we should be leaving on the way better terms than the government is presenting us with and it just terms than the government is presenting us with and itjust seems so presenting us with and itjust seems so unlikely now that this deal is going to get through. the prime minister to be coming forward and explaining what her next steps are. with the plan labour talking about require renegotiation? and eu 27 c no more negotiation. this negotiation has and, if you look at the future partnership document, it is so vague that it is clear that the negotiation hasn't even really begun, so much time has been wasted in this two—year process. we have had three months out for a general election and the resignation, we have a document now which is essentially the backstop, plus nothing. and that is not, i would say, sufficient to enable us to say, yes, we accept this deal. it is not
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good enough. labour won the general election, labour in power and a renegotiation, is that your preferred way forward ? renegotiation, is that your preferred way forward? the opposition would always prefer to be in power, clearly, but... of course but is that the only set of circumstances in which there can be a renegotiation? if there is a different government in power? that is not the only set of circumstances, the eu said that if the redline seems then that is a substantial change and they would be prepared to extend negotiation period on that basis. so if the prime minister said i want a permanent customs union, i want a good relationship with the single market, that is a fundamental change in position from the uk and that would mean that we could negotiate ona far would mean that we could negotiate on a far more clear and productive, collaborative way and that is what the prime minister to have been doing all along. final question to you chloe smith, do you think the fingerprint minister is currently listening well enough to the criticisms of her plan, because
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there are many. i think the premise as an excellentjob bringing the spine to the table and handling it through parliament, that is thejob of the day. whatjenny and labour's proposal would give you is division, more division in the country, more chaos, and what we need to do instead is get on with this for the sake of her constituents. has ]eremy corbyn had the talk with you, jenny? yes we have read the document, and we understand very well which is why we understand very well which is why we are prepared to not vote for it. what we wanted something that we can be united around and i have to say i don't think theresa may is listening, and if she is she is doing a very good job of pretending not to. because she seems to be determined to have this process leading up to his vote that anyone can see is going to be lost. and we need to know what she intends to do when she was the vote. thank you very much for your thoughts this morning, an interesting day and week
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ahead. a crucial week for the prime minister coming up with those five days of debate and then the meaningful vote on the 11th of december. well earlier this morning the communities secretary james brokenshire and the government chief whipjulian smith were both making an effort to sound very positive about the debate and vote. are you looking forward to five days of brexit debate? but form to getting on with the debate underlining how the deal delivers for british people, keeping focused on that delivery of the referendum, which is what this is about, the positive future for our country outside of the eu. looking positively, outwardly into the world, which is why i support the prime minister's deal. good morning mrsmith, how can prime minister's deal. good morning mr smith, how can you win the vote? are you confident? how are the numbers looking? feeling very confident. with me now is our
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assistant political editor norman smith. at those brave faces or do they know something we don't?” at those brave faces or do they know something we don't? i can only assume that julian something we don't? i can only assume thatjulian smith must have some sort of torture chamber in the basement of downing street that he will put tory mps on the rack until they say that they will back you because there is though other way he can crack this. all the signs are that mrs may has been banging away at her message for weeks now, and if anything you get the sense that opposition is hardening. partly i think because most mps have made up their mind anyway about a deal but also because the great threat of no deal, for down my deal and we plunge into no deal. not that back a lot of mps than take that seriously because they look at the cataclysmic impact as sketched out by the governor of the bank of england and think no government, no government would risk inflicting that sort of damage on the economy. so mrs may have this
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great club she has been holding over the head of mps, back me or the economy will suffer, they discount that now and think we can oppose her and see what emerges from the chaos. it is an extraordinary, almost surreal situation because clearly theresa may has her loyalists like chloe smith who we just heard from her very much saying that her deal is the best way and the only way, realistic way forward. but you have this huge amount of division within the conservatives and the other parties, and the position of the dup is interesting. what is a state of the relationship between the dup and government? fractures, scratchy, arm's—length, called what you will, it seems to me that the dup are now pretty much severing their ties with the government. we have seen that in a series of votes recently. no confidence, no supply? we will see when we get there, there was a lot of blood going on here. the dup want to put the pressure on mrs me to
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leave open the possibility that we are not going to help you in future if you press ahead with this. they will certainly vote against the deal. what they will do next, we don't know. is your thoughts on the opinion issued by the advocate general, the european court of justice's advocate general saying that the uk could withdraw itself from brexit effectively. it does provide a route for those trying to plot another path, because if mrs may‘s deal goes down, whatever you wa nt to may‘s deal goes down, whatever you want to do, whether you want a second referendum, you want norway and canada, you will need time and the one way to get time is to extend article 50. the brexit years will see no way we're leaving, the end of march, we will not extend article 50, but for the people's vote brigade, that gives them more space to try and engineer a referendum, so it does create a greater opening for
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those who want to try and put another course to mrs may. from when iam another course to mrs may. from when i am sitting at all comes down to numbers now. how big is the defeat which mrs me is heading towards? if it is some say, maybe 100 or so then ican it is some say, maybe 100 or so then i can see how she survived, i can see that, if however team may manage to crack the numbers down to 20 or 3010 in the world of expectation management you can say, not such a bad loss. have another crack at it. this is naked in that circumstances we will have one more seat, go back to brussels and get a concession and tries again before christmas, that could be her route to getting the deal done if it goes down first time round. head of the game to we started a conversation. norman smith, assistant political editor. thank you. as norman was saying an
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interesting day ahead and a very interesting day ahead and a very interesting week ahead. the numbers clearly very tricky for the prime minister. he reminded that at 1230 thatis minister. he reminded that at 1230 that is the beginning of the debate on whether or not the government has actually not acted properly in not issuing a full legal advice it received on the brexit deal and then after that the beginning of those five days of debate leading up to the meaningful vote next tuesday. a terrorism schedule each day for that debate. but will that debate change any minds? will it influence the figures for theresa may? and ultimately influence what happens beyond next tuesday. let's see. back tojoanna. the french government is to announce that its suspending the rise in fuel tax that has led to weeks of violent protests across the country.
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the suspension will be accompanied by other measures aimed at calming two weeks of nationwide demonstrations. three people have died. the prime minister edouard philippe was due to meet some of the protesters, known as the yellow vests, but they've called off talks after receiving death threats. 0ur paris correspondant hugh schofield has been following this story. it will be called a moratorium, we can read into that what we will. i think most of our experience, suspensions tend to become permanent and it is very hard to see how in the short to medium term this could possibly be suspended and it could be brought back in, so we can safely say that the signals accompanying the word moratorium are that this will not be coming back any time soon. whether that in itself is enough to serve —— satisfy the protesters then we'll to see because even though this fuel tax rise and let's be quite clear about this, the carbon tax is something that goes
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back many years. it is gradually being introduced and there is another step in the introduction of this carbon tax due to come in in january, that tax, that rises now suspended. now whether that is going to be enough to satisfy the protesters then we'll have to see because it was their original beef when all started four weeks ago, things have changed since then and there are many who say that hang on a second, if this is just a suspension that is not enough and we wa nt suspension that is not enough and we want more. it's by no means brings to an end this movement, although it has to be said it is a major concession by the government. the transport secretary, chris grayling, should take some responsibility for the chaos around the introduction of new rail timetables earlier this year, according to a report by mps. thousands of journeys were cancelled or severely delayed as the new schedule went live. the transport select committee says "genuine" change is now needed to restore trust in the railways.
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mr grayling has this morning apologised over the chaos, as tom burridge reports. the stories we reported back then... i have this dread every single morning because i know that the train's probably going to be late. ..haven't been totally resolved. throughout the autumn, services have again been reduced on northern rail, but the disruption in may and june on both northern and govia thameslink was on another scale. today, mps on the transport select committee say chris grayling should have done more to mitigate the disruption. i except as possibility of our party and myself not answering the tough questions. a couple of week before this timetable was introduced, the leaders of the industry and the independent body set up to monitor and propellers for the timetable change sat in my office and said it would be fine and we will be ready.
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that was not the case and we clearly did not ask tough and up —— tough enough questions. they acknowledge the transport secretary wasn't fully informed by rail bosses, but say he's responsible for the management structures which failed. the transport secretary, while we don't hold him responsible for this, we do not think he can absolve himself of any responsibility for what went wrong. the report says disabled passengers were, at the time, simply unable to travel by train. policies are needed to help them if things go wrong again. many passengers have received compensation, but the mps say a quicker, simpler system for claims is needed, and they believe fares on the parts of the network affected should be frozen and not rise by 3.1% in the new year. tom burridge, bbc news. an independent review into an immigration removal centre run by gas has found that some staff acted in a "draconian" way and indulged in "laddish behaviour". the report into brook house, near gatwick airport, was set up after an undercover reporter for bbc panorama filmed immigration detainees being verbally and physically abused.
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the security says substantial progress has been made at the centre over the last year. more than 4,000 children in england with special educational needs and disabilities were not given the support they needed at school last year, according to the 0fsted chief inspector. the regulator's annual report, which is published today, describes the failure as a national scandal. the department for education says it's working to improve standards with a new inspection framework. navtej johal reports. that's nice. that is what i would wear. ten—year—old sienna has been out of school for over a year. she has autism and her mum jane said she was told by her school that it could not meet her needs. she said the system has let her down. it is a muddle, i would actually say shambles, i have used that quite a few times. nobody seems to know what they are doing. it is easy for all these professionals making these
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decisions, they can go home at night and sleep, but we are left in limbo, that is what it feels like, limbo. 0fsted‘s annual report said that last year in england more than 4000 children like sienna, with official education, health, and care plans setting out their needs received no support at all, five times more than in 2010. it has described the situation as a scandal. it often said that children are often being excluded rather than seeing help. we are seeing patterns of increasing rates of exclusion for children with special needs. it looks as though, that it is becoming even more difficult for them to do well in mainstream school and to carry en route to life post—16. the government says councils will receive almost £6 billion for special needs this academic year. a rise of 5 billion from 2013. but as this march by head teacher
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showed earlier this year, many schools are struggling to fund the huge increases in demand for support, a struggle which looks set to continue. navteonhal, bbc news. and since we've run this story 0fsted has been in touch to update some of the figures used in that report — 4,000 children in england were affected in 2017. this year that figure dropped to two thousand and thirty 2,030 . now it's time for a look at the weather. good morning everyone, we have clear skies across many parts of the uk at the moment, lots of blue sky and sunshine after what was a chilly start to the day. this was the scene this morning in cambridge. we have seen the cloud increase likely across south—western areas of the uk, and that is associated with weather systems working their way in. eventually there will be rain pushing into corbel but the cloud
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advancing ahead of that across england and will. the odd shower perhaps over scotland, it is dry and bright and sunny but colder than yesterday. temperatures about 6—9d. the finger of rain will continue to move between north, and temperatures will fall as far as they did last night, in fact temperatures up to 9 degrees in the self but as you can see in the east of england there will be a frost to take this into wednesday. quite a corgi on wednesday. quite a corgi on wednesday in edinburgh, —— like a cold day on wednesday in edinburgh. in mild the day with temperatures around 12—13d. hello, this is bbc newsroom live. the headlines: the most senior advisor to the european court ofjustice advises the uk could effectively cancel brexit without asking for permission. how are the numbers looking?”
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how are the numbers looking? i am feeling very, very confident. the chief whip says he thinks theresa may's brexit deal will pass the commons. the prime minister will open five days of debate this afternoon. but before that mps will vote on whether the uk government broke parliament's rules by failing to publish the full legal advice it received on the brexit plan. the french government will suspend a fuel tax rise which has led to weeks of violent protests. the schools inspection service, ofsted, says it's a "scandal" that thousands of children in england with special needs are missing out on key support. 0utrage as the first woman to win the ballon d'0r is asked if she twerks, but ada hegerberg laughs it off. time now for the sport.
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good morning. luka modric has dedicated his balon d'0r award to all the other players who were overlooked for the past 10 years. either cristiano ronaldo or lionel messi have won the prestigious award for the last 10 years. modric captained croatia to the world cup final and also helped real madrid win a third successive champions league title. ronaldo was second and messi down in fifth. england captain harry kane was 10th. the inaugral women's ballon d'or was overshadowed by a sexism row. norway's ada hegerberg was the winner but the host of the awards show in paris, french dj martin solveig, asked her if she could twerk, a sexually provocative dance. he pologised for any offence caused and had asked other award winners similar questions. he came to me after and he
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was really, really sad that it went that way. i didn't think about it in that moment. i did not consider it as a sexual harassment or anything. i was just happy to get a dance and celebrate winning the ballon d'0r, to be honest. england's lucy bronze was also nominated for the award is a teamate of hegerberg at lyon. this was her take on the incident. it was because the dj asked each person not one what their dance was. he did a nice little slow dance with her. she can, so she was lying! i
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think it was more of a joke. her speech was amazing, into long winches, that are not even her first language. —— languages. how about this for an absolute howler in the fa cup? guiseley were looking to upset fleetwood town but the guiseley keeperjoe green was badly caught out as they lost 2—1. not something he'll look back on with any fondness. fleetwood then are in the third round. and this was the moment that solihull moors found out they'd be at home to arsenal. that's sporting director mark fogarty. they have to beat blackpool first in a replay, but what an incentive. the full draw is on the bbc sport website, of course. jose mourinho has clarified his use of the word miracle
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when taling about finishing in the top four. we just need to be not so unlucky with problems that we have. we need some players to perform better than they are. we need as a team to perform better than we are. but apart from a miracle, not at all. tyson fury had questioned whether deontay wilder would agree to a rematch after their contentious draw over the wekeend. that saw the american retain his wbc heavyweight title (00v) fury was knpocked down twice but many commentators felt that he was ahead on poinst in los angeles and should have won the fight. he says he cannot wait to face him
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again. we will see. that's all the sport for now. i'll have more for you in the next hour. welcome back to westminster. there will be a five—day debate leading up to the meaningful vote on the 11th of december and then this morning, we had the news from the european court ofjustice ‘s senior legal adviser, with that recommendation, the opinion and i should stress it is an opinion, that the uk could withdraw unilaterally from article 50. effectively cancel brexit. i am joined now by the snp ‘sjustice and home affairs spokesperson.
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0bviously, home affairs spokesperson. obviously, you are delighted with this relaying. what does it mean, do you think for the process? as you have already emphasise, it is a preliminary opinion, we hope to get the final opinion before christmas but in 80% of christmas, the court follows the advocate general ‘s opinion. we are reasonably optimistic the court will say it is possible for the united kingdom to unilaterally evoke the article 50 notice and stay in on the current terms of our current membership. what this does and our purpose in bringing this action was to bring members of parliament who have to vote on the deal the choice to remain in the european union, to establish that there is a third way, theresa may would have us believe it is either heard deal or no deal but we wa nt is either heard deal or no deal but we want to make it clear there is a third option and that is to revoke article 50. in order for that to be
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done, i think there would have to be a second referendum and anti—scottish national party supports a people's vote and there is growing support for that across parliament. i think the crucial focus is to get the deal voted down. i put my name to hilary benn ‘s amendment, as have many of my colleagues. we support that and then to give parliament the opportunity to give parliament the opportunity to look at the alternatives in a meaningful way after this vote has been voted down. we hope this will give parliament the option of holding a second referendum and the option of provoking article 50 notice, so we can stay in the european union on current terms and conditions, and in that way protect the british economy, jobs and living standards and rights across the uk. ata minimum, standards and rights across the uk. at a minimum, mps would standards and rights across the uk. ata minimum, mps would have standards and rights across the uk. at a minimum, mps would have too votes for this third option, but you think that it should go back to another referendum. that is what the snp have voted in our conference to
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support, a second thought. 0bviously scotla nd support, a second thought. 0bviously scotland voted to remain by 62%, so did northern ireland. england is more populous and so across the uk, the vote was to leave. i think it is crucial to go back and look at the votes a nd crucial to go back and look at the votes and the promises on which the votes and the promises on which the votes to leave were made. 0ne votes and the promises on which the votes to leave were made. one by one, they have been broken or shown to be undeliverable. i'm not criticising people who voted leave. many voted with a genuine belief it would improvejobs many voted with a genuine belief it would improve jobs and many voted with a genuine belief it would improvejobs and living standards. it is now crystal clear thatis standards. it is now crystal clear that is not the case. all the research that has been published into this deal that theresa may has achieved and using that word loosely, including the british government ‘s own research, shows it will make us all worse off and have a massive hit with the british economy. people did not vote to lower their living standards, to lose theirjob, for their children to have less opportunities in the future. we hope that this court case will be the impetus for the decision
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to go back to the people and at this time the vote will be different than the vote will be to stay in the european union. to those people who did vote to leave and continue to be happy with that decision, what do you say to them? do you say that this ruling, this opinion, i beg your pardon, from the chief legal adviser to the european court of justice and your hope of a third way, effectively cancelling brexit potentially, that that is thwarting the democratic will of the people? no, the court cannot make britain change its mind. the courtjust tells us it is possible to change our mind. i believe the decision will have to go back to the people for a second vote. holding a second referendum is not thwarting the democratic will of the people. it is giving the people the right to decide in possession of the facts, not in the possession of a pack of lies or misrepresentation that they we re lies or misrepresentation that they were told by the likes of boris johnson last time. in possession of the facts. we know that there is no way of leaving the european union
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that will not make us all worse off. do you think that this opinion will influence and i'm thinking in particular of conservative mps who are on the fence at the moment not to show which way to go, do you think it will bring some influence to bear when they decide whether to back the deal next tuesday or not?” know it will. many of us meet cross— party know it will. many of us meet cross—party at the moment and discuss these matters. i know it will influence some conservatives but this is a case that was referred to the court ofjustice by the scottish courts. scotland has been overlooked throughout this process. scottish people voted to remain, the scottish people voted to remain, the scottish government has put forward a number of reasonable compromises to the british government and been ignored every time. i am absolutely delighted it will be scottish parliamentarians and the scottish courts who will now go all the people of the united kingdom a lifeline at this criticaljuncture andi lifeline at this criticaljuncture and i really do hope that in the
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future when scotland becomes an independent country and seeks its rightful place at the top table in the european union, our actions will be remembered and people will remember that it was scottish parliamentarians from the snp, the labour party and the greens who fought to give people a chance to reverse this terrible mistake that has been made. let's speak to our reality check correspondent chris morris. tell us more about what we have heard from the advocate general this morning. both the government and the eu actually would oppose this kind of outcome in this non—binding opinion. the government tried very ha rd to prevent opinion. the government tried very hard to prevent the case coming to the european court ofjustice in the first place. they took it all the way to the supreme court in westminster and they lost. and then when there was a hearing of the ec], lawyers said a unilateral revocation
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would be a dangerous precedent because any country could then potentially say, we are going to trigger article 50, try and renegotiate whatever they wanted to know —— negotiate and then withdraw and the process could be abused. but what the advocate general is saying and again, it is important to stress it isa and again, it is important to stress it is a non—binding opinion, not a final ruling from the court itself, is that if a country has a member state triggers article 50, article 50 talks about the intention to withdraw, not a decision to withdraw. his argument appears to be a you arejust withdraw. his argument appears to be a you are just putting forward the intention to withdraw then you also have the right to new battery to change your mind because you have all the rights and responsibilities of being a full member state as long as the article 50 process is continuing. very briefly, how quickly do you think the ec] could come back with a final decision on this? they have already agreed to
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speed things up. this opinion today came very quickly. there is some suggestion it could happen before christmas. if not, shortly after christmas. if not, shortly after christmas. if not, shortly after christmas. i think it is important to note also that they have the non—binding opinion which says there do need to be some... any party, sorry, that needs to observe the principles of good faith and sincere corporation, in other words, you can't abuse the system. i think it is possible if the court when it does issue its full ruling, it might add some caveats if it were to agree with this non—binding opinion to ensure that the article 50 process was not able to be abusing the future. chris morris, thank you very much for that. joining me is the green party mp caroline lucas. do you think that this opinion is
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going to make a difference to how the debate unfolds between now and next tuesday? i think certainly it will get give comfort to those mps who were perhaps considering the prime minister might have been right when she said it was either heard deal or no deal. i think mps have more comfortably at the people's vote campaign, the idea of going back to the people and if they choose to remain, the fact that we have now got this advice that suggests that, it'll be possible for the uk to unilaterally revoked article 50 and stay inside the eu, it comfort to that argument and it really does... how then if the primaries to was to lose the vote next tuesday... how then would this opinion fit into the jigsaw, if you like, of everyone considering what happens next —— the prime minister. what we do know is thatjeremy corbyn for the labour party has said he wants a vote of no—confidence
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shortly after that dealers voted down. 0ne seems almagro assumes that will not get through but after that point, that if we are to believe what labour tells us, they will then swing behind a people's vote. back to the here and now, what is happening today, the debate on whether the government was in co nte m pt whether the government was in contempt in not publishing its full legal advice on brexit and then the start of the five days of debate leading up to the meaningful vote. do you think that anyone is in a position to change their minds or our view is pretty fixed amongst mps? our view is pretty fixed amongst mp5? i our view is pretty fixed amongst mps? i think people are still changing their minds, to be honest. some people have changed their minds but have not quite decided when to reveal that. i do think there is all to play for in these debates. as i say, i will be making the case this should go back to the people because
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i think we know that theresa may ‘s deal does not have the support of a majority in parliament, no other proposal, including no deal at all, has support in parliament and i think all of that gives moment to the idea that when you are against the idea that when you are against the wall, when there aren't any other ways out of this gridlock, thenit other ways out of this gridlock, then it makes even more sense to go back to the people because two years have elapsed since the referendum and a lot more information has become available since then. the prime minister has talked about the possibility of rerunning the vote again, would that be a pointless exercise as far as you are concerned? it would be ironic. the public cannot have a second goal in terms of expressing their view, and yet she wants a second bite of the cherry herself. realistically, i don't imagine what she can do to make a big enough change to the vote in parliament but with be small enough to be allowed by the european union. the chances of her being able to get some, i don't know what it would be, letter of comfort,
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addendum to the main package, i can't imagine that is going to be enough to get a majority behind her view. caroline lucas, thank you very much for your time. we will bring you in extensive coverage over the next week, starting off today with that initial debate, beginning at 12:30pm. that is about whether the government was in contempt when it did not publish the full legal advice it was given on brexit and then of course, the start of those eight—hour days of debate, five days, eight hours each day, leading up days, eight hours each day, leading up to the meaningful vote. lots of live coverage on the bbc news channel. in a moment, we'll have all the business news, but first the headlines on bbc news. the most senior advisor to the european court ofjustice advises the uk could effetively cancel brexit without asking for permission. theresa may will set out the case for her brexit deal in a five day debate beginning this afternoon. but before that mps will vote on whether the uk government broke parliament's rules by failing
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to publish the full legal advice it received on the brexit plan. now time for the business news. the governor of the bank of england, mark carney, has said food prices could rise if there is no orderly brexit plan. mr carney told a committee of mps that in the most extreme scenario, prices would go up by 10%, but in a more orderly scenario by more like 6%. govia thameslink must pay £15 million towards improvements in services for rail passengers and will make no profit in 2018 according to the department for transport. it says the company already spent a similar amount in passenger compensation after chaos following new timetables that were introduced earlier this year. the dft said its performance after the may timetable change was unacceptable. budget airline ryanair has reported an 11% rise in passengers last month compared to the same month last year. it also said it had reached
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an agreement with a german pilot unions over wages and benefits. walkouts by the airline's staff in several european countries, including germany, led to the cancellation of hundreds of flights this summer. 300,000 bt pensioners find out if the company can switch bt has lost its court case within the last few minutes. it wanted to change how pensions are calculated. earlier this year, the high court said the company couldn't switch but bt appealed and today we hear the court of appeal‘s verdict. unison, the trade union, says that bt pensioners would be left thousands of pounds out of pocket if their pension increases were tied to cpi measure. bt has a £14 billion pension deficit and is one of the biggest pension providers. john ralfe is an independent
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pensions consultant. he's in our nottingham newsroom. this verdictjust coming through, bt losing the appeal. no great surprise. it wanted to do it to try and cut costs. talk us through the significance of this move. they tried to overturn the ruling that earlier in the year was rejected as well. this is one of the things that is highly technical. it would have had an impact on british telecom, as you say, would have reduced the costs because the pensions would have gone down a little bit. in the greater scheme of things, for british telecom, however, i don't think it makes a great deal of difference one way or the other. british telecom is always thought of as the bellwether uk pension scheme, it is the largest pension scheme in
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the uk. it has got about £55 billion of liabilities. it is huge. to put that into perspective, that is twice the market capitalisation of the company. it is an issue for british telecom. it even had the case been won, it would have been restricted just to british telecom and there would not have been a read across to other uk pension schemes. would not have been a read across to other uk pension schemesm would not have been a read across to other uk pension schemes. it is a pretty watertight deal that they have with their pensioners, including, we will honour the agreement that you signed up for, which is not to change it to a cheaper measure. it all depends exactly what the trust rules say and the rules for the 6000 pension schemes are not consistent. bt had a peculiar one. that made it look as though, if you like, there was a possibility of changing it. that has been argued through the courts and as we have heard this morning, has been rejected. when we talk about
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pension schemes like this, you touched on it, a huge deficit, all of them are trying to cut how much they have to contribute because more of us are living longer and it is costing them or to keep paying out. this is a problem for the whole industry, not just bt. this is a problem for the whole industry, notjust bt. private sector pensions are pretty underfunded, on the whole. over the last couple of years, virtually all the 6000 private—sector uk pension schemes have closed to notjust new members, but they have close to what they call new pools, you keep the pension you have earned but going forward , pension you have earned but going forward, you might be 40,50, pension you have earned but going forward, you might be 40, 50, you are in what is defined as a defined contribution pension. that is a big change. that means the companies that are in a whole can stop digging but they still have to find money to plug deficits. that money has to be found from somewhere. it acts i think in the case of british telecom
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and other big schemes, things have cheered up a bit, deficits have gone down, the real problem is with the smaller, weaker companies, which aren't doing very well at the operating level anyway. they probably have a lot of debt and to cap it all, have a pension problem. and companies to go bust and when they go bust with the pension scheme, it is a big problem. we had karelian earlier on in the year which we covered in some lengths. they had a lot of people in the pension scheme, large deficits. the good news for the pension scheme met —— members is they go into the so—called pension protection fund, the lifeboat set up by the government. they don't receive all their pension but they receive the lion's share. that is the good news. absolutely. thank you forjoining us. and thank you for explaining all of that. it can be complicated and that highlights the scale of the
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problem. just confirmation of that, bt losing that court case. it had appealed as to whether it could move those contributions to a lower rate and the court of appeal says no. expect to see a little bit of a reaction. i put oil on the board because you can see it is creeping up because you can see it is creeping up once again. we are expecting production costs changing from saudi arabia. more from us a little later. one of the most prestigious awards for a british artist, the turner prize visual arts, will be announced this evening in a star studded ceremony at tate britain. this year's exhibition has been described as the most political yet with subjects such racism and the arab—israeli conflict reflected in the entries. 0ur arts correspondent, rebecca jones, reports. it is the sight and sound of
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old—fashioned technology. it is the sight and sound of old —fashioned technology. luke it is the sight and sound of old—fashioned technology. luke list thomsons 35mm films show people who have been affected by state brutality. this is diamond reynolds, whose partner was shot dead by police in america and event she streamed life —— live on facebook. the next artist has spent a year making a film recorded entirely on her smartphone. it is autobiographical and is about her coming out as gay in rural aberdeenshire. and the scottish countryside plays a starring role. if you are in a rush, this exhibition might be a challenge. there is no painting, no sculpture, instead for the first time in the history of the prize, all the artists are presenting films. and you would need four and a half hours to watch all of them. the longest is this one, 90 minutes. it is about a man who spends a decade living alone in an abandoned airport. the artist
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also makes documentaries using archive footage which explore the issues of migration and excel. the finalfilm is issues of migration and excel. the final film is the work of a research agency called forensic architecture. they are presenting footage of a police raid on a village in southern israel last year. the winner of the prize will be announced tonight. and you can see the turner prize winner announced live here on bbc news in a special programme at 9.30 this evening. now it's time for a look at the weather. the message really is that if you wa nt to the message really is that if you want to get out and about and enjoy the weather, today's the day to do it because it is going to turn quite u nsettled it because it is going to turn quite unsettled and quite an person really the next few days. we have some sunshine out there this morning.
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some lovely sunshine in hampshire. many of us started off with clear skies. quite chilly and frosty. 0ut towards the west, we have more cloud, which isjust starting towards the west, we have more cloud, which is just starting to gather and move in a north—east with direction. it is linked with this area of low pressure. there is some rain on this as well. for the rest of this afternoon, we will continue with lots of sunshine, particularly across scotland and northern parts of england. england and wales, high—level cloud moving in. rain eventually moving into the far south—west. there is some cold weather today, compared to yesterday. that rain pushing northward and eastwood, moving its way into northern ireland. but with the mild aircoming way into northern ireland. but with the mild air coming in, it is not good to be as cold as it was last night. a real big contrast and the temperatures tonight. some clear
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skies. there will be a frost. temperature is minus four celsius perhaps in aberdeen. throughout wednesday, that cloud, that rain, will continue to move its way northwards. there could be a bit of snow over higher ground in the pennines, the southern uplands later on in the day. a wet day for all of us on in the day. a wet day for all of us during wednesday really. maximum temperature is around 11 to 13 celsius. the best of the sunshine in the far north of scotland. through into wednesday, we keep this westerly air strea m. into wednesday, we keep this westerly air stream. we have this area of low pressure moving its way into. associated weather fronts moving in. more wet weather in the forecast. there will be a few dry interludes in the east initially and later in the day, some dry spells moving into the west and further showers will spread their way in. sunshine will be limited during thursday. it is a mild day.
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temperatures tend to 14 celsius. and then we have another weather system moving its way in for friday. that will give us some strong winds in the northern half of the uk. heavy rain on friday which will clear. but they could be disruption on friday because of those strong winds. it is worth staying tuned to the forecast. in mild the day with temperatures around 12—13d. this is bbc news, i'm annita mcveigh. the headlines at twelve
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how are the numbers looking?” how are the numbers looking? i am feeling very confident. the chief whip says he thinks theresa may's brexit deal will pass the commons, the prime minister will open five days of debate this afternoon. but before that mps will vote on whether the uk government broke parliament's rules by failing to publish the full legal advice it received on the brexit plan. the most senior advisor to the european court ofjustice advises the uk could effectively cancel brexit without asking for permission. the other main stories at midday on bbc newsoom live. the french government suspends fuel tax increases for three months after violent protests. the schools inspection service, ofsted, says it's a "scandal" that thousands of children in england with special needs are missing out on key support. good afternoon
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live from westminster. the prime minister will urge mps to back her brexit deal this afternoon as the government becomes embroiled in a constitutional row with parliament. theresa may will begin five days of debate in the house of commons on her brexit plan before the crunch vote on december 11th. but before she even addresses mps her government will come in for intense criticism over claims it's in contempt of parliament by refusing to publish the full legal guidance given to ministers about the withdrawal agreement. the debate on the contempt motion will happen first, expected to start around 12.30. if it loses it will be the first time a government has been held in contempt of parliament in modern history.
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but despite what it says in some of the newspapers this morning. the contempt motion does not call for any sanctions against ministers, and it is unclear whether it would force the government to publish the legal advice in full. afterwards the house will start five days of debate leading to the meaningful vote on the brexit agreement. the house of commons is expected to consider the issue for eight hours a day during the debate. the meaningful vote itself is due to take place in the evening of the 11th of december, with all current predictions showing strong opposition to the prime minister's deal. 0ur political correspondent iain watson reports. theresa may has been touring the country and tv studios trying to sell the brexit deal, but today she will face the most demanding audience of all — her fellow politicians. butjust before she begins five days of debate on the deal, mps will discuss whether ministers
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are in contempt for failing to publish the legal advice which parliament demanded last month. last night, the commons speaker granted an emergency debate, to be held around lunchtime today. i have considered the matter carefully, and i am satisfied that there is an arguable case that contempt has been committed. if theresa may is defeated and government ministers are found in contempt, this is likely to be seen more as a distraction than a disaster. a committee of mps would have to consider what action to take. the government's accusing opposition politicians of playing politics. i think it's a complete diversion from what the public are expecting to hear. we're going to have five days of important debate about the merits of brexit, the withdrawal agreement. let's get on with that and stop messing about with process. what is significant is that one of the opposition parties who want to see the legal advice is none other than northern ireland's dup, and their mps usually prop up prime minister's minority
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government, so this could be the shape of things to come. the really big vote isn't today, its next week when mps decide whether to back the brexit deal. but today's debate may give a clue to the scale of opposition that the prime minister's likely to face. iain watson, bbc news. 0ur assistant political editor norman smith is in parliament's central lobby. take as to what the process is today, an extremely busy day. we are expecting this contempt motion to begin probably i would think in about half an hour, 45 minutes' time. that'll go on for an hour, at the end of which mps will vote to in effect centre —— censure the government for being in defiance of parliament for refusing to publish the full legal advice. this
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does not mean that as a result the attorney general will be dragged to the commons and being around the head and forced holidays, what it probably means is that the speaker will get up and again urge the government to comply with the will of the house so the ball if you will will be passed to the government, and they have been pretty clear that they see no reason to give the advice because they say they have or are they published a summary of it and the attorney general has been on his feet for two and a half hours yesterday. they told mps what the guts of the legal advice is, they are not going to release their actual text because they say there is no precedent for that so we will be in is no precedent for that so we will beina is no precedent for that so we will be in a slightly stand—off situation, i imagine, if the government lose the vote. they may not lose the vote because tony brexit here say they are not going to support the opposition in this motion, they do not want to defeat the government on this. they are saving their fire until the meaningful vote next tuesday. so once we have dealt with that motion
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we get mrs may, just before mrs may we get mrs may, just before mrs may we have what is cold the business debate about business, how many hours in her time as queen to be allotted for the full brexit debate. and then about four o'clock or 430 mrs may will get up on her feet and begin herfinal pitch mrs may will get up on her feet and begin her final pitch to mps about why she believes they should back deal. thank you. europe's top legal official says the uk could effectively cancel brexit without asking for permission. the non—binding opinion was delivered by the european court ofjustice's advocate general who said it would be acceptable for the uk to revoke article 50 unilaterally. a group of scottish politicians asked the court whether the uk can cancel brexit without the consent of other member states. the court ofjustice will deliver a final ruling at a later date. well lord kerr actually drafted article 50 and is a former uk ambassador to the european union, and we can speak to him now. thank you very much forjoining us
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here on bbc news. and the author of article 50 probably least surprised person around at this opinion from the ecj's advocate general because you have always argued that this could happen. it is no surprise, but it is significant because it confirms that the choice is not the deal the government have produced or crashing out with no deal, we can keep the deal we have now, the one that margaret thatcher got for us on the money and that theresa may got for us for euro poll and the european arrest warrant. and we can't be obliged to be —— tojoin the euro because the major deal from maastricht would still survive. if we took back the letter we would never have left in the thames of membership would never have changed. like max in the thames, to be clear, your opinion is that the thames of the uk's membership would not change if at this stage the uk decided to
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stay in the eu? that is right, there is no political or financial stay in the eu? that is right, there is no political orfinancial price that can be charged if we would decide to change course. and legal opinions don't necessarily always translate into legal judgments, legal ruling, but do you think that this opinion from the advocate general is more likely to lead towards a second referendum? yes, i think it is likely to sustain what the advocate general has said this morning, it usually does, and it things to be that this lends added releva nce to things to be that this lends added relevance to the people's vote campaign. since the question is not academic, it is a real question, if we decided then that having seen the terms of leaving we would rather stay with the deal we have then we could do so and there would be no price to be paid, so i would have thought that increases the momentum
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already building for a people's vote. the latest public opinion polls i seen show 5743 in favour of having a people's vote.|j polls i seen show 5743 in favour of having a people's vote. i am interested to get your views on the first debate that will be happening in the commons on whether the government is in contempt of parliament for not publishing that brexit legal advice in full.|j parliament for not publishing that brexit legal advice in full. i am not a lawyer and in a very little about commons and contempt. i read the attorney general‘s opinion yesterday, the memorandum he submitted and i thought it was a very impressively honest explanation that if one got caught the backstop one had no unilateral way out of it, we might be caught in it for a very long time. i thought she was very honest and explaining that. the question the commons today is a different one about whether the documents he should to cabinet years
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now required to show parliament. very good to talk to you anyway, lord kerr, our —— author of article 50. so a crucial week ahead for the prime minister with five days of debate and then that meaningful vote on the 11th december. well earlier this morning the communities secretary james brokenshire and the government chief whipjulian smith were both making an effort to sound very positive about the debate and vote. good morning mr brogan shire, you looking forward to five days a brexit debate? looking forward to getting on with the debate underlining how this deal delivers for the british people and keeping focused on the delivery of the referendum which is what this is about, the positive future for our country outside of the eu. we are looking positively outwardly into the world which is why i am supporting the premise's deal. and the government when? karen —— are
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you confident of winning this fight? i'm feeling very, very confident. i'm joined now by the mp ben bradley, who's a former vice—chair of the conservative party antoinette —— thank you for your time. what are your thoughts as we head into these final five days of debate? we haven't talking about this this morning, five days, eight hours per day, there will be a lot of discussion on various things waited to brexit. you oppose the premise of‘s deal, and your mind be changed? it would be difficult without the deal being changed, she has been very clear that she feels this is the only option on the table. that isa the only option on the table. that is a disappointing approach to be honest but i hope over the course of the next what will be very long days it seems, actually i hope we will see colleagues stand up and put
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forward alternatives, as i hope to do. there are other options out there and on both sides of the arrogant people have been laying out what the alternatives are. we need to make clear the case for the reasons we don't support this deal but also we the alternative ideas as well. of the other options what interest you most? if not theresa may's deal. we are late in the day at this point, but we haven't talking for a long time about what has been called a canada style deal. a loose trading arrangement that gives us more independence. with the prime minister is right and eu are not able to consider a deal that works for us as a united kingdom and i don't think we have anything to fear from leaving without one, particularly if we can accept that now and talk to the eu about how we manage that transition to what we would call a clean brexit. is the ideas being talked about today of the back of this opinion from the advocate general the ec] of the uk staying in the eu on its current
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terms, is that viable for you? we are not cancelling brexit, certainly my constituency is an area that voted 71% to leave, we would be pretty horrified by that and actually faith in democracy is sometimes pretty brutal anyway. i certainly feel that going down that kind of route would really damage our democracy in this country. have you been sending out your constituent in the recent weeks and months? that has very much been theresa may's thrust in recent weeks to talk directly to the people unseat mps, with the constituents. there has been a lot of discussion are talking to business or have a business lunch, we sat there with ken clarke not so long ago and ken got a bit of a posting about how the businesses wanted to leave the eu. got a bit of a posting about how the businesses wanted to leave the eui will interrupt you for a moment to say goodbye to our viewers on bbc two. here with me still is ben bradley.
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here with me still is ben bradley. he opposes theresa may's deal. you are speaking about what your constituents are insane about the deal, having been persuaded in any way about what theresa may has had to say? about what is in her opinion the only realistic way forward. to say? about what is in her opinion the only realistic way forwardm isa the only realistic way forwardm is a divisive issue, i have heard from constituents want me to support the deal and constituents want me to remain but the vast majority, i have the local polling, and it is overwhelmingly the quarters of people prefer to leave on world trade terms than for me to vote for the steel saw a resounding vote in my constituency, and in constituencies like that, eddie is like mansfield, or people with to leave the idea that they do not understand what they were voting for, they certainly felt that leaving meant leaving only the situations are not being into that budget and not being bound by eu rules. thank you. we think that the
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debate will get under way earlier this afternoon after the contempt debate, if i can call it that, that is due to begin at around 1235 or 1245, perhaps a timeframe slipping a little bit, but it will be really interesting to hear from conservative mps, in particular over these days about whether they are persuadable, whether they are open to potentially changing their mind. those are the mps that really trees in me is focusing on and has been focusing on in recent weeks and days. of course making those direct appeals to the public, but also saying to mps, listen to your constituents. theresa may clearly believe that she can connect with the public to change opinion. well one conservative mp who certainly has been undecided, i rubber gasket
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if she still is undecided about whether to back the premise of‘s deal or not, is a conservative for xp in cheshire. you're very welcome, thanks forjoining us. are you still persuadable one way or the other?” think i will be backing the premise of‘s deal, for my constituents, no deal would be a dreadful outcome and it would hit the northwest particularly ha rd it would hit the northwest particularly hard in our key sectors of chemicals, aerospace, car manufacturing, food and drink, and pharmaceuticals, so those are highly paid, highly skilled jobs at risk and to my mind the prime minister has not got the perfect deal, but she has a deal that can potentially deliver the referendum outcome.” think i'm right in saying that it was quite recently that you're undecided but you know say you will back the prime ministers deal, is that as a direct result of speaking to constituents in recent days and weeks? i have been pulling my
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constituents have had over 800 constituents have had over 800 constituents doing a poll and around about, i would say 67% of them want either a deal, and the style to remain. and the remaining 33% or so are no deal outcome, but in terms of 40 from a future constituents and those who can't afford yet, i think it is my responsibility to consider the future for young people in my constituency and how our decisions will affect them. what will you do, do you think, what will happen if next tuesday the prime minister's deal is voted down? you sound as though you could not countenance the idea of no deal. i could not countenance the idea of no deal, i think that parliament would need to see whether it can express a view, whether we can unite around a view, for example, staying in the original common market now called the eas to
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style arrangement, or whether we may have to go for a people's vote. i am not at the stade supporter of the people's vote because i think palin should make its decisions, but that may be the only alternative reality. so you could perhaps be persuaded that ultimately that might be the way to go, second referendum?” would like to see consensus on parliament to like to see of parliament to like to see of parliament could unite around a —— a particular deal and i think we should look at what modern we could work like the norway option, staying in the original customs union and single market, so the old common market but coming out of the political situations of the eu and stopping an ever closer union. thank you very much for your thoughts today. interesting to hearfrom one conservative mp who was undecided until recently and now says she is backing trees may‘s deal, talking
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about her constituents and their desire for some sort of certainty, a clear path forward, and other mps i've spoken to recent weeks, there are those who are undecided to our persuadable. treason me is clearly hoping to capture those mps, to persuade them of the merits of deal. but the numbers at the moment with very, very difficult for her and one group of mps she will not get support from, they having clear from the outset when the staff deal was published, those other mps of the dup andjoining me published, those other mps of the dup and joining me now is their brexit spokesperson sammy wilson. good afternoon. first of all i ask you the staters have the confidence and supply arrangement you have the government? it does seem to be in tatters. it is still intact, we have said we support domestic legislation however we have had 2 cents on warnings to the government that if
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they persist down the road that they are at present, where they have broken the confidence and supply arrangement, confidence and supply had two sides to it. we will support brexit legislation and governments domestic legislation in return for the government ensuring that the delivered on the vote of the people of the iter kingdom to leave the eu and the vote of the united kingdom for the whole of the latest kingdom to leave the government has singularly broken that part of the agreement. under the persist singularly broken that part of the agreement. underthe persist down that road then of course that does call into question the confidence and supply arrangement but hopefully we will rescue the government from its folly next week when we fought against the withdrawal agreement as it is currently constituted, that will then only the government from any legal obligation for a backstop arrangement which would have broken
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up arrangement which would have broken up the uk. let's look at the different issues you have raised, essentially if you vote against the government which you say you're going to do that could lead to the downfall of this government. going to do that could lead to the downfall of this governmentm going to do that could lead to the downfall of this government. it does not necessarily, what it should do is, because it will modestly ourselves, there will be a large numberof ourselves, there will be a large number of conservatives who will be voting against this deal next week as well, but have expressed that publicly and told the whips that'll be the case, so the government will have to look at it on policy because it cannot even carry that policy within its own party. and in doing so within its own party. and in doing so of course it will deal with the issue of the backstop arrangement. so envisaged this day week, the deal is voted down, what happens next? what happens after that depend upon notjust the what happens after that depend upon not just the government of the what happens after that depend upon notjust the government of the uk, but it depends upon the eu. the first thing that could happen is the eu recognising it has pushed too hard, gota eu recognising it has pushed too hard, got a deal which is too one—sided, a deal which even remain
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as in the house of commons could not possibly vote for, will look again at the elements of that deal and see how it can be changed in order to get the majority in the house of commons. eu has said it will money negotiate so if that is not possible... it has said that at present, but having seen what a push over the government has been to date you would hardly expect the eu to say, by the way, we will change. they will push the government to the absolute limit because they have already seen that pushing the government forward —— that pushing, the government falls over. i would not expect change until it is quite clear that this deal is going nowhere and hopefully next week that is what will happen. if the eu decides to persist in insisting that this is the only deal in town then we have the 20th of march when relief eu and we leave with no deal. what do you say to not at your own constituents in northern ireland, articulately in the business sector,
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and on the border with the republic of ireland to have clearly expressed that they are deeply concerned. they say they cannot go on with this uncertainty. i would say do not live with uncertainty of the withdrawal agreement, because the withdrawal agreement, because the withdrawal agreement leaves us with huge uncertainty. what laws are you going to have to face and ferment which will affect your business from europe without any chance of a change by the ministry from here or in northern ireland. do you really wa nt in northern ireland. do you really want to have the uncertainty of not being able to participate in uk trade deals on future and do you wa nt trade deals on future and do you want the uncertainty of a denayer seat which would cut you off from your main market? would you rather remain how things are? now, i think the people of the uk voted to leave the people of the uk voted to leave the eu,i the people of the uk voted to leave the eu, i think the government has a duty, democratic duty to deliver on that, and let's get on with the job of doing so. thank you very much. where are we? not too far away from
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the beginning of that debate. first of all and the contempt proceedings, whether the government was in co nte m pt of whether the government was in contempt of parliament when it decided not to publish the brexit legal advice info. maybe 15 or 20 minutes away from the beginning of those long days of debate leading up to the meaningful vote next tuesday. for now from westminster back to you in the studio. according to the 30 inspector several children were not given the appropriate care. the department for education say they are working to improve standards with a new inspection framework. then -year-old sienna has been out of school for over a year, she has autism and her
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mother was told that it could not meet our needs. she said the system has let her down. it is a shambles. i have used that phrase a few times. nobody knows what they are doing. it is easy for all these professionals making these decisions, they can go home at night and sleep, but we are left in limbo, that is what it feels like, limbo. 0fsted‘s annual report said that last year in england more than 4000 children like sienna, with official education, health, and care plans setting out their needs received no support at all, five times more than in 2010. it has described the situation as a scandal. it often said that children are often being excluded rather than seeing help. we are seeing patterns of increasing rates of exclusion for children with special needs. it looks as though, that it is becoming even more difficult for them to do well in mainstream school and to carry en route to life post—16. the government says councils
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will receive almost £6 billion for special needs this academic year. a rise of 5 billion from 2013. but as this march by head teacher showed earlier this year, many schools are struggling to fund the huge increases in demand for support, a struggle which looks set to continue. navteonhal, bbc news. and since we've run this story 0fsted has been in touch to update some of the figures used in that report — 4,000 children in england were affected in 2017. this year that figure dropped to 2,030. we can talk to the founder of the special—needs jungle which helps pa rents special—needs jungle which helps parents find resources. thank you very much forjoining us.” parents find resources. thank you very much forjoining us. i think this was ten years ago that you
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started having difficulties with the education system. what do you think today, hearing this 0fsted education system. what do you think today, hearing this ofsted report? it does not this price, because we support this everyday. we hear from pa rents support this everyday. we hear from parents everyday whose children are fighting to get provision, they're getting provision taken away or having their children excluded are advised that there —— that they may be better off home—schooling their children so this is a reality for far too many children. now the spotlight has been shone on it very clearly in this of the report and the government says that is more funding, do you expect things will change? there is an quietly going on at the moment with the education select committee and they have received over 600 submissions from the families and from people saying
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the families and from people saying the same thing, there is not enough money within the system, but is not the training within the system, the culture has changed along with reforms to put the family at the centre, that is just not happened. and although they say we're putting in more money than ever before, they have extended the system from birth to 25, so it should not come as a surprise that young people aged 16-25 do surprise that young people aged 16—25 do want to access the help thatis 16—25 do want to access the help that is supposed to be out there, so there is just not enough that is supposed to be out there, so there isjust not enough money that is supposed to be out there, so there is just not enough money that is going on that is being put into that area as well. what impact do you think this has on outcomes for children with special educational needs and disabilities? the outcomes are that they don't get employment, there are far too many children particularly with autism, i think it is, iam particularly with autism, i think it is, i am not sure of the figures but far too many who cannot get the job
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or apprenticeship. there is not even support for universities to help them. the government will see it as them. the government will see it as the ds a but that does not provide sufficient support for those young people who do get a universities and there is some provision, residential provision, but that is very expensive and local authorities do not want to pay for it because you don't have the money either. thank you very much. the french government has suspended a planned hike in fuel tax following the violent "yellow vests" protest — which saw four killed and several hundred injured. stricter vehicle emission controls set to kick in next month will also be suspended. the prime minister said no tax wa nted the prime minister said no tax wanted endangering the unity of the nation. we can go to paris correspondent hugh schofield. how much of a setback is this for emmanuel macron and will it be enough to calm the protest is
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anyway? i'll take the second question first. we don't know, obviously. it will go a long way to satisfy the more moderate among them, this is after all the suspension of the fuel tax rise, the key demand would start of the whole thing off a month ago and arguably had this, earlier we would have avoided all the aggravation and scenes we saw on saturday so i think it will satisfy them, the moderate element and it will satisfy also a large part of public opinion which is very much behind the protesters at which will see this as the government listening and acting. there is i am afraid another side to this and that is the hardline element whose appetite has been whetted by seeing the government on the run and we will have to see whether they feel this is acceptable and there are indications that many of them don't but whether they have the weight to carry the protest movement onto another day we will have to see. 0n the question president macron,
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thatis 0n the question president macron, that is a huge question. it is a setback for him. it is the first time he has climbed down and been humiliated basically since coming to power. he has prided himself on being the kind of person who does not give into the street. he says giving in the street has been a disaster and he was not going to do that. but he has done that. and all his predecessors must be saying, there you go. it is not so easy after all. now it's time for a look at the weather. most of us have seen cindy a decent sunshine already today but it looks like being the coldest day of this week for many of us. despite the sunni skies, temperatures are staying down in singerfigures. four to7 staying down in singerfigures. four to 7 degrees vary wildly. bricks of rain will begin to spread in this evening and overnight. it will turn damp. —— outbreaks of rain. we will
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see temperatures actually rising through the night. by the end of the night temperatures of around 12 degrees in plymouth. quite a contrast in scotland. big contrast weather wise to take us into wednesday. sunny, cold and frosty in scotland. cloudy and wet for most of the uk. the rain will be quite heavy, accompanied by brisk south—westerly winds. that will drag in mild airacross south—westerly winds. that will drag in mild air across much of the country. temperatures in double figures across good parts of england and wales. further north in scotland, hanging onto that cold air. in the countryside, one or two places may not get above freezing in the far north. that is your latest weather. hello, this is bbc newsroom live. the headlines: how are the numbers looking? i am feeling very, very confident. the chief whip says he thinks theresa may's brexit deal will pass the commons.
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the prime minister will open five days of debate this afternoon. but before that mps will vote on whether the uk government broke parliament's rules by failing to publish the full legal advice it received on the brexit plan. the most senior advisor to the european court ofjustice advises the uk could effectively cancel brexit without asking for permission. the french government suspends fuel tax increases for three months after violent protests, the schools inspection service, ofsted, says it's a "scandal" that thousands of children in england with special needs are missing out on key support. it's a crucial afternoon for brexit. let's go back to westminster and my colleague anita mcveigh. welcome back to westminster, where mps will begin a week—long
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debate on whether to support the brexit deal negotiated by the government with the eu. it comes as a top european law officer said the uk should be able to unilaterally cancel its withdrawal from the eu. the non—binding opinion was delivered by the european court ofjustice's advocate general. joining me isjolyon maugham, founder and director of the good law project, who has been behind a number of legal challenges to brexit. you are loosely delighted with this this morning. yes, he is a judicial officer, and a legal officer. it is only in about one in five cases that the court does not follow the advocate general ‘s opinion. this is advocate general ‘s opinion. this is a strong signal about which way the court will be facing. as to whether iam court will be facing. as to whether i am pleased, court will be facing. as to whether iam pleased, i court will be facing. as to whether
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i am pleased, i think in normal political times, anybody would say that it was a good thing for mps to understand the legal framework when they are making incredibly important decisions and to have all options on the table before them. that is all this case does. i detect a bat! you said in normal times you would be pleased but... i am mystified as to how the government has fought tooth and nail, we have had 11 hearings before the one last tuesday. why the government has fought tooth and nail to keep mps in the dark. it must have spent hundreds of thousands of pounds trying to block this case. the only effect of this case is to put mps in the know, to tell mps what options they have and that must be right and circumstances where there seemed to be very little support for the prime minister ‘s deal. the news for the advocate general is music to the ears of remainers but what impact do you think it can have either on this
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debate or what follows next tuesday after the meaningful vote? debate or what follows next tuesday after the meaningfulvote? your viewers at home are not the only people who are struggling in a sort of morass of confusion. parliamentarians are also struggling to know what happens when as looks to know what happens when as looks to be inevitable the deal is voted down next week. and mps will welcome the clarity that this judgment provides. they were welcomed the knowledge that so far as eu law is concerned at least they can choose just to cancel brexit. this is an thing actually that notjust remainers seem to want nowadays, certainly there are a number of leading brexiteers who say that leaving without a deal is unthinkable. and that would be a decision for mps or a decision that should go back to the uk in another referendum? from my perspective, if
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there is time, i think it should go back to the people. we don't know that there will be time. we know that there will be time. we know that parliament can move very quickly. in greece for example, it only took seven days from parliament approving a referendum for the question in the referendum to be put to the people. if needs be, we could move to the people. if needs be, we could m ove very to the people. if needs be, we could move very quickly. it is a matter of political will. isn't this thwarting the democratic will of the people who voted in the original referendum? i do hear that argument being put. i do really struggle to understand how the people can thwart the democratic will of the people. i think that argument really just the democratic will of the people. i think that argument reallyjust does indicate what a terrible muddle we find ourselves in as a country. what the people dead, the people can and do. they do it every five years when we have a general election. thank you very much for your thoughts
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today. just to give you a little bit of sense on the timing for today. first of all that initial debate, before we get onto the meaningful vote debate, the initial debate and that is about whether the government was in contempt of parliament in not publishing the full legal advice on withdrawal from the eu. publishing the full legal advice on withdrawalfrom the eu. i am publishing the full legal advice on withdrawal from the eu. i am told that could go on until maybe seven o'clock this evening, potentially. the debate, the five—day debate, leading up to the meaningful vote next tuesday, that could not start perhaps until much later today. after 7pm. we know that theresa may is going to be the first speaker there. 0nce is going to be the first speaker there. once again, making her case for heard the land saying that is the way forward. it looks likely to bea the way forward. it looks likely to be a marathon session in the house of commons today ahead of a marathon
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week. let's talk a little bit more about the process. i'm also joined by maddy thimont jack, who's a researcher at the institute for government, focusing on brexit. thank you very much. so, tell us first of all about today and what we can expect. we have two debates. exactly. the first debate that we have appears on a contempt motion, this is around whether the government should publish the attorney general ‘s legal advice on the withdrawal agreement in full or not. the government so far has published some explanatory notes, the attorney general answered questions yesterday and they say that should be sufficient for parliament. the opposition leaders have written to the speaker and say it should be a matter of contempt, interrupting the proceedings of the house of commons and so first up, we will have a vote on a motion because the speaker said the commons should have a right to debate that. in
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practical terms, is it going to be leading to that legal advice being published in full? very recently the attorney general has written to parliament saying he will not be publishing the legal advice in full. he does not think that will serve public interest properly. we'll have to see what happens with that. parliament, if there is a majority in the commons for finding that the minister is in contempt, i mean, there are some quite serious questions as to what that means practically. that would be from theresa may ‘s perspective the worst possible way to start these five days of debate. as we go through each day and they will be marathon sessions as i mentioned, there will be different themes explored. yes, thatis be different themes explored. yes, that is my understanding. today, the first thing that needs to be debated and approved is the business motion. this is something that allows a debate on a motion to last five days because normally it would only last 90 minutes. this is something the government has to pass so parliament candidate the deal for five days. what is interesting is about the
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business motion is dominic grieve has tabled an amendment to this motion. what he is trying to do is look at what will happen after the meaningful vote, so if parliament voted on the deal, he wants to make sure that any subsequent motion brought by the government would be amendable. there are quite a lot of different motions and amendments going on at the same time. one has to said it is all very carefully. 0f course, everyone is naturally thinking about what happens next, even before this bait woodworker debate begins. -- debate actually begins. it looks at the moment as if the mps are going to vote down the deal. there are five days of debate. we will not know until the vote at the end. if the deal is voted down, is rejected, what then happens after that? there are some quite big questions. what we know has to happen is under the eu withdrawal
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act, the piece of legislation passed before the summer, the government has to within 21 days come back to parliament and say this is what we are going to do next. they might say we are going to renegotiate an aspect of the eu, bring the deal back and hold another vote. but that has to happen and then seven sitting days later parliament has to vote on a motion to take note of what the government has said. this is what dominic grieve is making sure is actually amendable so there might be an opportunity for parliament to have a bit more say. that has to happen. we know that will happen. there are some quite big questions about what might happen politically. it could be that labour table a vote of no—confidence in the government, which then a vote will have to happen, they will vote on that, if there is a simple majority, it will trigger 14 days for someone to try and form a government and obvious he within the conservative party, there are questions as to whether a leadership election might be
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triggered by 48 letters to the 1922 committee. thank you for your expertise. i think as you can tell what we do know is that whatever happens next tuesday, and that is the bit we don't know exactly, it is going to be followed by a very, very busy period for mps and for the political life of this country of the uk over christmas and the new year. we will have much more coverage of course from here throughout the day as we follow events in the house of commons. this week we've been looking at the issue of care in the uk the governor of the bank of england, mark carney, has said food prices could rise if there is no orderly brexit plan. mr carney told a committee of mps that in the most "extreme" scenario, prices would go up by 10%, but in a more orderly scenario by more like 6%. the warning came as he defended the bank's apocalyptic brexit forecasts last week,
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saying some of the criticisms were "unfair" this week we've been looking at the issue of care in the uk and yesterday we revealed scotland spends more on it than england and wales. personal care is free for scottish people over the age of 65. but next year, funding will be extended to everyone, following a campaign led by the widow of scottish footballer frank kopel. so how does it work in scotland? lorna gordon has been finding out. four times a day, archie has carers visit him at home. a stroke left him paralysed down one side, and he gets help with bathing, dressing, the preparation of food. they get used to you coming in and you get to know each other. i have been coming here, yeah, six years as well. knew them for quite a while! for much of the day, his care falls to his wife mavis, but because he is over 65, the 2.5 hours or so of personal care he is assessed as needing by his local authority, is provided for free. it makes a huge difference, honestly. i don't know what we would do without this care. to me, they are like angels, he's getting emotional
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about it, that's what it is. he knows how lucky we are to have them all. free personal care was introduced in scotland to try and encourage people like archie to stay and receive care in their own homes for as long as possible. more than 45,000 people here are now assessed as being eligible, an increase of 8% over the last decade. it now costs nearly £380 million annually. the policy is well liked, but some say it could work better. people would like it to extend further into mopping and shopping—type services and there are some complaints that people may wait for the assessment of the service or the delivery of the service. we estimate that if you introduced the scottish system into england, for example, it would cost about an extra £7 billion by 2021. he's got to have a support and he does from frank kopel... footballer frank kopel died after early onset dementia just weeks after turning 65.
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his wife amanda successfully campaigned so free personal care would be available to all, regardless of age. she is still pushing to make sure that the thousands of younger people who would be eligible from april, will benefit notjust in principle, but also in practice. he said, tell them amanda, it is too late for me, but it will help others in the future. help people like jeff adamson, he became paralysed when he was 41. he welcomes frank's law, but worries it will not be fully funded. it makes me very angry for myself, but for other people. i have no idea how it is going to be implemented. i am concerned that i won't see any benefit whatsoever when this policy is introduced. free personal care in scotland is provided as a legal right. the challenge, to ensure this popular policy remains durable when it comes to cost, and works as intended. lorna gordon, bbc news. the headlines on bbc news:
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theresa may will set out the case for her brexit deal in a five day debate beginning this afternoon. but before that mps will vote on whether the uk government broke parliament's rules by failing to publish the full legal advice it received on the brexit plan. the most senior advisor to the european court ofjustice advises the uk could effectively cancel brexit without asking for permission. the body of former us president george hw bush is lying in state in the capitol rotunda, following a sombre ceremony. the event was attended by mr bush's family along with senior officials. several hours after the ceremony, president trump paid his respects, along with his wife, melania. 0ur correspondent in washington, rajini vaidyanathan, reports. for george hw bush, it was the final journey to washington dc —
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a city to which he devoted much of this life. with his son, america's 43rd president george w bush watching on, the casket of the country's 41st was carried out the steps of the us capitol building, accompanied by a 21 gun salute. 21 gun salute. president trump, who mr bush reportedly didn't vote for, paid his respects with his wife, melania. republicans and democrats, and politicians past and present lined up to pay tribute. he was known as the quiet man. it was not for lack of nerve or daring. for in all his 94 years, president bush never lost his love of adventure. and he never failed to answer the call to serve his country. and that call began as a teenager when he enlisted in the us navy.
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his plane was shot down over the pacific, and he survived. in a nod to his service and his love of colourful footwear, he'll be laid to rest wearing these socks. i will faithfully execute the office of president... president george herbert walker bush was a consummate public servant. before he entered the white house he was a congressman, the head of the cia and vice president to ronald reagan. a family man, he was distraught when his wife barbara, who he'd been married to for seven decades, died in april. president george hw bush's casket will lie in state here at the us capitol building in washington until wednesday morning, giving members of the public their chance to say a final goodbye. then it will move to washington's national cathedral, where america's 41st president will be afforded a full state funeral. george w bush will deliver a eulogy,
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president trump will attend, alongside democrats barack 0bama and bill clinton — testament, many say, to the spirit of a man who forged bonds across the political divide. rajini vaidyanathan, bbc news, washington. let's go straight to the commons. keir starmer is opening the debate. the issue before this house on this motion is very simple. as the government complied with the order made by this house on the 19th of november this year to publish the full and final legal advice by the attorney general to the cabinet concerning the eu withdrawal agreement under framework for the future relationship? yes or no. that
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order was binding. mr speaker, future relationship? yes or no. that orderwas binding. mr speaker, on the 13th of november i sort your advice on that issue. and you ruled in the following terms. the ruling i give is simply that the motion is effective. i have been advised of us. it is not an expression of the opinion of the house. it is an expression of the will of the house that certain documents should be provided to it. yesterday, the government published a reasoned position paper. that was not legal advice. it simply described the deal. it was a synopsis. it was in the nature of unexplained. and explain having already been published when the deal was published. was a long way from legal advice. the attorney made a statement of a house and then he a nswered statement of a house and then he answered questions. but the government did not publish the full
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and final advice by the attorney general to the cabinet. mr speaker, thatis general to the cabinet. mr speaker, that is the long and short of it. the government is wilfully refusing to comply with a binding order of this house and that is contempt. mr speaker, yesterday, the attorney general as good as admitted it when he said and i quote, i wish that i could comply with the request of the house but if i did, i sincerely believe it would not be in all our interests. and slightly later he said, although the house says i should disclose, i believe that the public interest compels me not to do so. i'm sorry, mr speaker, that's a plea of mitigation. it is not a defence. i make three points about the government ‘s position. first as
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the government ‘s position. first as the honourable member made clear yesterday, for the attorney general to say that in his view it is not in the national interest is not good enough. the honourable memberfor north east somerset went on to say andi north east somerset went on to say and i quote, when the government loses a vote, they must follow the will of this house and a humble address. according to all precedent it is no longer a matterfor the government tojudge. it it is no longer a matterfor the government to judge. it has it is no longer a matterfor the government tojudge. it has been decided by this house. which is a higher authority. mr speaker, my second point is this. if the attorney general feels so strongly about this matter that he has repaired now to put the government in contempt of parliament for refusing to comply with the binding order, why on earth did he not vote against the order in the first place? 0r anybody else on the government benches. that was not an
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oversight. the government knew very well what was being asked for. the attorney general must have known what was being debated and voted on. yet it appears from answers given by the attorney general yesterday that he was not asked before that vote for his views on the wisdom of not voting against the order. nor did he offer any advice directly or indirectly. again, mr speaker, i quote the attorney general, i had no discussion with the chief whip on this subject, none was sought. now i don't doubt the attorney general ‘s word for a minute but really? before that vote, nobody asked... nobody asked the attorney general ‘s views on the consequence of not opposing the order? the truth... the truth is that the decision not to oppose the order was a political decision. taken by the government because it
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feared it would lose the vote. mr speaker, they didn't want the short—term humiliation of losing a vote and the price of that was higher than voting against the order. and none of them did it. mr speaker, that's not for the first time. i will in a moment... that's not for the first time. for months, the government has ignored opposition day motions and now their tactic has got them into very deep water indeed. the government cannot come to this house and say we took a political decision not to oppose the making of the order to publish the full and final advice by the attorney general and then we took a decision not to comply with that order, but somehow we are not in co nte m pt of order, but somehow we are not in contempt of parliament. the third point i make, mr speaker, is this, and it is about the amendment. it is
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about the government ‘s amendment in the name of the leader of the house. asking this house to refer the matter of whether governments response fulfils the response. the short point of this, there is nothing to refer. a binding order was made. and the government is refusing to comply with it. the reality is yet again by its amendment, the government is simply playing for time in the hope that this ends up in the long grass until the crucial vote is long gone. so, mr speaker, this motion is extremely important. it has huge constitutional and political significance, bringing the motion is not something i have done lightly on the... on the contrary... 0n the contrary... 0n the contrary...
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mr speaker, on the contrary... 0n the contrary... order. i don't need somebody yelling rather stupidly from a sedentary position give way. the right honourable and learned gentleman would give way if and when he wants to do so. and that is the end of the matter. the same will apply when the leader of the house is on her feet. let me make it clear, these are extremely serious matters and the public is entitled to expect that this debate will be conducted with courtesy. however long it takes... however long it takes, that is what will happen. keir starmer. thank you, mr speaker. i have not taken the decision likely because i
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entered stand the constitutional and political significance of this motion. on the contrary, we have raised points of order on a number of occasions about this order. we have asked urgent questions and i have asked urgent questions and i have repeatedly urged the government to reconsider its position, both publicly and privately. making it clear of the consequence of not doing so. but the government has chosen not to do so. i urge the government now, even at this 11th hour to think government now, even at this 11th hourto think again, government now, even at this 11th hour to think again, to stop, to pull back from the brink of being found in contempt of parliament. this motion is a last resort. the issue before us is simple. this house passed a binding order, the government is wilfully refusing to comply with that order. that is co nte m pt of comply with that order. that is contempt of parliament. order. yes,
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the right honourable gentleman has very clearly completed his speech. the question is as on the order paper, to move the amendment, i call the leader of the house, andrea leadsom. i beg to move the amendment in my name on the order paper. in responding to this motion, i want to start by thanking my right honourable and learn it friendly attorney general for putting himself at the disposal of the house yesterday for over two hours. to provide information about the legal impact of the withdrawal agreement. he did so... he did so... he did so with his characteristic candour and integrity. the use of this motion has happened very rarely in the history of parliament. and i don't think any member of this house can be in any doubt that the information that the attorney
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general provided yesterday was a very frank assessment of the legal position. the key questions posed by members on all sides are on our once we must all consider. my right honourable friend responded to all those questions in a conference of fashion. alongside yesterday's nearly two and a half hour session the government has also provided a 48 page legal, terry which sets out the legal effect of each part of the withdrawal agreement. the information provided to the house is the detailed legal position on the withdrawal agreement and as the attorney general said to the house yesterday, he continues to be at the disposal of parliamentarians to several questions.
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