tv Victoria Derbyshire BBC News December 5, 2018 10:00am-11:01am GMT
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hello it's wednesday, it's10:ooam. i'm victoria derbyshire. more than 130,000 children in the uk will be homeless this christmas, according to the charity shelter. this is where 25—year—old limarra and her nine—year—old daughter have been living. it's temporary accomodation so they are considered officially homeless. they are here to tell us what life's like for them right now. in an hour and half the government is going to publish the full legal advice on brexit after mps forced it to in a vote yesterday. cabinet ministers are rallying around the pm, but is it enough to save her. i don't believe there would be anybody else who would work as hard as she has determinedly as she has to get this deal through. so i think she deserves our support. we'll speak to three conservative mps with different views. and a chest implant compass so you can feel north, microchips under the skin and an extreme diet
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to try and live to 150. today we introduce you to the biohackers around the world. so i've got a magnet right here in this finger... when you go out to a restaurant they are like, "wow how does he do that?" hello, welcome to the programme. we're live until 11:00 this morning. will you be officially homeless this christmas? being in temporary accomodation like a hostel or a b&b means someone is offically homeless. if that's you, let us know today and let us know what the prospects are are you getting somewhere permanet for yuorself and your family. use the hashtag victoria live.
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if you're emailing and are happy for us to contact you and maybe want to take part in the programme, please include your phone number in your message. asummary of a summary of the news so far. mps are to resume debating theresa may's brexit deal, following a series of defeats for the government. among them, ministers were found in contempt of parliament after refusing to publish the full legal advice on the withdrawal agreement. ministers will now respond by releasing it later today. a british academic says he felt like he was being mentally tortured when he was held in the united arab emirates on spying charges. matthew hedges spent months in prison before being jailed for life. he returned to the uk last month after being pardoned. in his first broadcast interview to the bbc he describes some of the treatment he endured. there was no light, i wasn't allowed
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to do anything to try and distract myself. you could listen to radio or anything that sort? not until i had started the court case and my mental health had deteriorated quite substantially. then i was allowed some form of destruction. where you shackled? yes, when i went to the bathroom or on occasion to use the shower, i would be escorted by guards and i would wear ankle cuffs. whenever i was transported between different premises, i was blindfolded and handcuffed. the home office is being accused of failing to act on repeated warnings about the impact its measures to curb illegal immigration would have on windrush migrants. the national audit office has published a report claiming
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the department didn't take into account the possible impact on people originally from commonwealth countries who were entitled to live in the uk. world leaders have been arriving in the united states to attend the state funeral of president george bush senior later today in washington national cathedral. president trump has declared today a national day of mourning. the former president died on friday at the age of 94. his body has been lying in state where more than 26,000 people have paid their respects. the office investigating alleged russian collusion in the 2016 us election has said it will not be pursuing a jail sentence for former national security adviser michael flynn. mr flynn has admitted lying to the fbi — but in a memo, special counsel robert mueller said he had provided "substantial assistance" to prosecutors. president donald trump has called the investigation a witch hunt and denies any wrong—doing. doctors in brazil have revealed that for the first time, a healthy baby has been born to a woman using a womb transplanted from a dead donor. the 10—hour operation and
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the following fertility treatment took place in 2016. there have been nearly a0 womb transplants using a live donor, resulting in 11 babies but the ten previous transplants from a deceased donor had failed. that's a summary of the latest news. back to you victoria. there are six days to go until parliament votes for or against mrs may's brexit deal. will today be any better for the prime minister than yesterday? at 11.30 the government will be publishing its full legal advice on brexit. it was hoping to keep some of the advice private, but yesterday ministers were found in contempt of parliament and have been forced to make it all public. mps also backed calls to give them a direct say in what happens if mrs may's deal is rejected next week and there will be more debate today in the commons about her brexit deal. let's talk to our political guru norman smith.
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0k where are we today? we need to see how mrs may copes and how she picks herself up off the floor after yesterday. she seems to have run out of road and there doesn't seem to be any new arguments to make two mps to get them on board. the second thing we are watching is whether basically things are happening around her. she has pretty much lost control, notjust her party but of brexit itself. this stems from the emergence of this block of, call them sort of tory centrist mps, party elders, greybeards. you get what i mean, these are experienced, respected figures in the party who, yesterday, ensured that if mrs may's deal goes down in flames, parliament can step
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in to say this is what we should do 110w. in to say this is what we should do now. this is the plan b brigade, they are beginning to sketch out what should emerge from the wreckage of mrs may's deal. we will see how much support they have behind them, how united they are and can they bring on board, centrist labour mps and how much of a game changer this is. a lot of the talk has gone beyond mrs may's deal to plan b. what is it, can it work and who will make it work? cabinet minister is still bleeding in behind the prime minister. andrea leadsome. i never do predictions. ineverdo them. i am not going to start now. but what i do want to say is the prime minister has shown such incredible tenacity and determination to get a deal that can bring together those on the leave side and those on the remain side of the argument.
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i don't believe there would be anybody else who could work as hard as she has or as determinedly as she has to get this deal through, so i think she deserves our support. there is a view among some mps that this is a plot to terrify tory brexiteers into backing heard deal. because if they don't there will be some softer, plan b brexit sorted out. there is no sign at the moment of tory brexiteers buckling. they are adamant that mrs may can and should get a better deal. if she can't, it is no deal. he is the former brexit secretary... i think if this deal is voted down we make the changes that will be necessary to render this deal palatable. in terms of the long—term interests of our country, our children, the next generation and we also make clear we are ramping up the preparations for no deal. we don't want that outcome
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but we're not going to be bullied into submission. and i think that's the way we are most likely to get a sensible, pragmatic response from the eu. but we need to be willing, as in any negotiation, to walk away if they are not going to continue to try and sense weakness in the uk and bully and blackmail us into submission, to what are frankly, appalling terms in the last analysis of this deal. there is a sense mps on all sides are preparing for life after mrs may's deal goes down. the other thing we have learned yesterday is mrs may's deal is almost certain to go down. she lost yesterday on votes, went for one of them she had the backing of tory brexiteers and on the other she had the backing of tory brexiteers and the dup. next used a she will have the support of neither which suggest it is inconceivable to see how she can get this deal through. thank you very
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much, norman. let's speak to three conservative mps now, fomer culture minister ed vaizey, in westminster is vicky ford mp. and also joining us from westminster is bernard jenkin — he is a member of the pro—brexit group the erg. let's confirm how you are voting next tuesday, vicky ford, will you be for or against the deal?” next tuesday, vicky ford, will you be for or against the deal? i will be for or against the deal? i will be supporting. i will be voting against it. i will be voting for it. vicky ford, are you expecting the prime minister to lose this vote? i hope she doesn't... i know you don't wa nt hope she doesn't... i know you don't want to, but do you expect her to? if it is voted down, we're looking at chaos. i am asking you, are you expecting it to be voted down?|j at chaos. i am asking you, are you expecting it to be voted down? i am not the chief whip. i am expecting
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us not the chief whip. i am expecting us to have to vote for this deal because if not, there is a huge risk. i will try once more, are you expecting it to be voted down?|j risk. i will try once more, are you expecting it to be voted down? i am expecting it to be voted down? i am expecting to vote for that andi and i hope my colleagues will change their mind between now and then. the fa ct their mind between now and then. the fact you won't answer the question directly tells me a lot. said bernard jenkin, are you expecting it to be voted down? yes, the dup isn't supporting this deal. i don't know why some people can't do the maths. ed vaizey, are you expecting mrs may to lose on tuesday? yes, although i remain weirdly optimistic she might pull it out of the hat. it is based oi'i pull it out of the hat. it is based on blind faith. so, if that does happen, if she loses, what we know is that parliament has the keys to the car, it has the right to say
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what happens next. there are many different options. what do you say the options are, ed vaizey? there was a vote in parliament yesterday which allows parliament to express its will, assuming she loses this vote on tuesday, which i think is significant. bernard doesn't think it is, but i think it is. it will be first—come, first—served. the most realistic alternative to what theresa may is proposing is the norway option, joining the european free trade association. which means we will be in the single market and paying contributions to the eu and not controlling our borders. how is that leaving the eu ? not controlling our borders. how is that leaving the eu? it gives us, minimises the impact onjobs that leaving the eu? it gives us, minimises the impact on jobs and people advocating the norway option regard it as a temporary stop before we move to the free trade deal. people forget about theresa may's
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agreement, even if it is passed, it gets us out of the eu as painlessly as possible before we negotiate free—trade arrangement with the eu. the norway option is similar. it is the most credible one and has cross—party the most credible one and has cross— party support and the most credible one and has cross—party support and a lot of labour mps have backed it and feel compelled to support it. do you accept it will be a betrayal of people who voted to leave? no, we have had to put up with the brexiteers, first of all not saying what they want during the referendum. they went into government and then left when it got difficult. they say no to anything put forward as brexit but they never say what they want that will be not catastrophic for the british economy. so how worried are you about a soft brexit, and norway? there may be a majority in parliament? first of all, as you rightly say, the norway brexit is
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not brexit because we would tough to stay in the customs union, we wouldn't be taking back control of laws, money and borders. how worried are you about that? well the second point to make is norman smith didn't explain this, there is a big difference between the law and resolutions of parliament. yes, we will get a second meaningful vote and people will have their say. parliament has passed the law is necessary for us parliament has passed the law is necessary for us to leave the european union and we are leaving on the 29th of march. unless parliament passes new laws, we are leaving. i don't think there explained to the audience how you
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would stop it. he voted for that amendment yesterday, i see a hugely chaotic... you have explained you don't want a no deal, i see a hugely chaotic process and a high risk of a no deal " b rex it" process and a high risk of a no deal " brexit" if process and a high risk of a no deal "brexit" if this does not go through on tuesday. labour politicians are playing with fire, if they think they will get a second chance to renegotiate this in brussels. those red lines cannot be met. how would you stop a no deal? we have put in place a mechanism that allows parliament to have this, but what bernard says has some truth in it, what really upsets me about bernard's position is the agreement, the withdrawal agreement is a way of getting us out of the european
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union, that is what he has backed all his life in a way that does not harm jobs or the economy. it becomes an opportunity for her to negotiate the relationship with the european union that he wants to see. there is a chance we will get a no—deal brexit, walking away, not my fault the government did not prepare for this, chaos and misery that will be prepared by it. . government how worried are you about not getting brexit at all? that is such a crazy idea, and the british people... british people wa nt to british people... british people want to leave the eu. all these scare stories have proven
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to be wrong. this is important, france and other countries and the eu are already preparing for the possibility of what one might call a negotiated no deal withdrawal. we can trade with the eu on wto terms, it will be sensible for the eu and uk to temporarily agree there will be no terrace. the idea, this is very important, the idea that leaving without a withdrawal agreement is somehow jumping leaving without a withdrawal agreement is somehowjumping into an a byss agreement is somehowjumping into an abyss is just another lie. agreement is somehowjumping into an abyss isjust another lie. it agreement is somehowjumping into an abyss is just another lie. it is agreement is somehowjumping into an abyss isjust another lie. it is not true. legal framework, trading abyss isjust another lie. it is not true. legalframework, trading with other countries, most of our trade is done with other countries on wto
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terms already. what about the people living here from in the uk, from elsewhere in europe, brits living elsewhere in europe, brits living elsewhere in europe, their lives and livelihoods are affected by this, the businesses... the withdrawal agreement is the way to have an orderly exit, the other eu 27 countries have negotiated this in good faith they have said, take this or leave it, where will you get more from the eu leaders. they have negotiated for two years and made this offer, so i think, throwing this offer, so i think, throwing this back in their face right now is enormously high risk. the chance you can have a new negotiation, i've been speaking to businesses... real cliff edges, realjobs, decisions that are going to need to be made before christmas, about jobs that are going to need to be made before christmas, aboutjobs and livelihoods, in my constituency, in your constituency, if we vote
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against this on tuesday. let her respond. these are the same industries that said we needed to join the euro, thank goodness we did not do that, they all campaigned to remain. people in my constituency have lost jobs. of remain. people in my constituency have lostjobs. of course remain. people in my constituency have lost jobs. of course we would... i think the rest of the european union is made up of civilised countries, they would not wa nt to civilised countries, they would not want to spike the rights of british citizens living in their countries, the idea that the eu can hold people hostage to blackmail us, signed an agreement which we could not subsequently leave because we would be stuck in the backstop, that seems to put the uk into a much weaker position to negotiate than if we left without an agreement. we don't know what is going to happen on tuesday, people predicting, so many people are predicting that she will lose this, i suspect she will not have a nswers lose this, i suspect she will not have answers to that. we should be
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talking to one another, you have three mps in front of your cameras who are all good friends. you are?! you don't seem to be. if he were to stop using language like hostage, and bankrupt, then perhaps it would appear more like that. three good friends. coming up... we're meeting a bunch of so—called biohackers, inserting magnets and microchips under their skin. this woman wants to use hers to open her car door. then, the moment of truth for raven. . . then, the moment of truth for raven... does it actually work? it's working! nice! and officially homeless, nine—year—old naveah sealy
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is sleeping on a sofa in her grandma's front room while her mum limarra, who works full time, sleeps across from her on another sofa. they're here to describe how they are in this siutation, one they never thought wld affect people like them. the home office has been accused this morning of not heeding repeated warnings about the impact on the windrush generation of its measures to curb illegal immigration. the windrush generation is a term for british people who arrived to the uk from caribbean countries before 1973, some of whom have been wrongly detained, denied their rights and even deported under what has been called the government's ‘hostile environment‘ agenda. the report, from the national audit 0ffice found that many of those who've lost out financially as a result of the windrush scandal, still haven't been repaid. it said: "it failed to protect their rights to live, work and access services in the uk, and many have suffered distress and material loss as a result. this was both predictable and forewarned." and it said that people from other commonwealth countries have been neglected in the government's
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response to the crisis, saying: let's talk to nick monaghan who was born in nigeria, but has lived here for a0 years, served more than a decade in the british army, he's now £15,000 in debt as he was forced out of work while having to apply for his passport. and with me here is gus john, who came here from grenada in the 1960s.
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he was invited to downing street for the windrush anniversary celebration but wrote back saying it would be a "betrayal" to attend gus wrote to theresa may saying it would be a "shameful betrayal" to accept the invite. why did you say that? for the reasons given by the national audit office, what they have not said in the report is that many people have died as a result of this hostile environment. how do you know that? families have said, they have reported it to the home office themselves, people have gone back to themselves, people have gone back to the caribbean and have perished because they were receiving treatment here, for quite serious diseases, or conditions, which was withdrawn, and as a consequence of that, not being able to access the same medical treatment where they we re same medical treatment where they were deported to, they died. how many people have died?” were deported to, they died. how many people have died? i am told by those who have been monitoring this with their communities is that it is up with their communities is that it is up to about 13 people. i believe
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thatis up to about 13 people. i believe that is quite important. the report has not said that, from what i have read, they have not yet used the word human rights once, this system seems to me to be a complete betrayal and denial of human rights. if you could concisely sum up for the audience, the situation you found yourself in. well, yes, i came to the united kingdom in february, 1963, i was six months old, i came on my mothers passport, and i lived a normal childhood. join the army from school, had no problemsjoining the army. while serving in the army, iwas, i the army. while serving in the army, i was, i had to apply for a passport, turns down first time, but on my commanding officer's urging, it was finally issued. and i didn't
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think anything of it and carried on living mine life normally until february, 2016, when i had lost my passports but i was told i had to produce a passport, to prove i had the right to work in the united kingdom. after several visits to the passport office, and refused out of hand, because i could not reduce an english birth certificate, they kept refusing, refusing and refusing. if it wasn't for the polite... did you get fired from yourjob, because your firm was fined for illegally employing you ? your firm was fined for illegally employing you? because you did not have a passport? yes, yes, my firm, bless them, they hang on to me for as long as possible but i don't know if they were fined but they were threatened with a fine and my contract was terminated and i have not worked since. the report from
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the government spending watchdog, the government spending watchdog, the nag, the government spending watchdog, the nao, there is a number of criticisms, but it suggests that the targets the home office had for removing illegal immigrants would have influenced how enforcement staff carried out work in a way that would have increased the risk of wrongful removal, do you agree with that? yes, i do, when this first happened, we used to laugh and joke, because where could they send me? back to nigeria? i have no family, i have nothing out there. when it wasn't funny anymore and it got serious, i was genuinely worried, i had depression, if it was not for a very kind landlord, i would have been homeless. do you agree with that? the environment, the so—called hostile environment, had such an influence on staff that it meant that commonwealth citizens like nick we re that commonwealth citizens like nick were put under a lot of pressure?
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yes, that is the context, to use an analogy which the whole world would understand, the conservatives were courting you kip, nigel faraj was behaving like a peacock, calling the shots. the conservatives got into bed with you kip, and brexit is the offspring of that. what we have to understand is this, the conservative government and the liberal government and the liberal government were playing ping—pong about the number of people being let m, about the number of people being let in, and how many were being deported successfully, that was the context in which this hostile environment occurred, let us remember that theresa may, as home secretary, in 2013, had these fans running around london, saying, go home orface arrest. now, within that environment, people in the home
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office scrutinising the residences, the right to stay, of all of those people from the commonwealth, the caribbean in particular, were not concerned about the impact upon people, what they were concerned about was simply hitting these numbers. the home office has apologised, a profound apology to the windrush generation for the experiences they have faced, and as the report, more than 2500 people of any nationality have been helped prove their status. i know that you are ina prove their status. i know that you are in a lot of debt since losing your job, are in a lot of debt since losing yourjob, £15,000, would are in a lot of debt since losing y°urj°b, £15,000, would you like the government to give them that back? yes, i really would. can i say, the one thing that hurt me most, all the visits to the home office passport office, it was a typical "computer says office passport office, it was a typical " computer says no" situation, they were not prepared to
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look into it, i did not have the proper documentation, so the answer was a flat no, it was not nice, that is what hurt. biohackers. if you haven't heard of them you're about to. biohackers are people who want to make their bodies and brains function better — by "hacking" their biology. that could be as simple as taking vitamin supplements but if you call yourself a biohacker you're likely doing far more than that. i'm talking about people trying to edit their dna, changing their diet to try and live to 150 and trying to create entirely new human senses. our reporter catrin nye has been talking exclusively to people in the?uk, germany and the us who want to push the limits of what it means to be human. and a warning, ?this film starts with a quite?graphic image of a needle implanting
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a microchip into someone, so turn away briefly if you don't want to see that. ? are you ready? ready. take a nice big breath in for me. well done. this the chip is in. i am a cyborg. meet a group of people from different corners of the world, all linked by a desire to make their bodies and brains function better. they are inserting technology under their skin, adopting extreme diets, trying to change the biology they were born with. some, trying to live to 150. i would be willing to take pretty much anything in order to improve my biology. meet bio hackers.
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i've come to leicester to meet some bio hackers who are into body implants. to find them, someone is coming to meet me here who has directions in his hand. hello. are you carl? i am carl, yes. nice to meet you. have you got something for me? i've got a chip in my hand. oh my god. that has my directions on it? it does have your direction. i can see the chip. it feels like a matchstick in there that sort of size? it's about the size of a grain of rice. so how do i get my directions from this? you just bump your phone against the chip,
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hold it against there and there you go. and there it is. it's read the address off that, straight into google maps? straight into google maps. hi. you're genova? lam, yeah. this is genova. at this salon, as well as more conventional things like ear piercing, she inserts chips into people. what we have going in today is a microchip implant. what kind of people are getting these chips? there's definitely more people that are interested just for the novelty of having one and having the, i've been upgraded to a cyborg. augmenting technology is one of the reasons why i want to do it. i have an nfc reader in my car and it has got keyless entry and keyless start, so i would like to be able to start my car without needing my keys. this is your entry into bio hacking. this is my entry into bio hacking. i've been very curious about it before and i've written about it extensively,
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i like to automate all processes in my life if possible and this is just another way of doing that. the chip is currently located roundabout here, just in the neck of the needle. that's pretty big. all right, are you ready? ready. take a nice big breath and for me. well done. super. all done. so, we just press down and that. your chip's in. my chip's in. you're a cyborg, woohoo! yay, i'm a cyborg. you're a bio hacker. look at me, mum! and then the moment of truth for raven, does it actually work? cool, so now i'm approaching my nfc tag. yes!
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it's working! nice. her hand can now link to any website and she can hopefully programme it to open her car. i meet the next bio hacker on hampstead heath in london. he has developed something called the north sense. he can literally feel north. what's inside here? lots of electronics. so you have a compass chip, you have a bluetooth and lots of other stuff. i'm making it work. and how is it attached? so, there are two titanium bars going one from here to here, one from here to here. oh, yeah, i canfeel them. and i buy them here. piercings here. that's still a bit red.
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how fresh are they? they are not that fresh but with all the people touching, pushing... with all the weirdos like me. go round, face north. oh, yeah. yeah. so that's north there. yes. it's like you're getting a text message with your phone in your pocket, vibrating when you hit north. yeah, it's the vibration, yeah. this bio hacker is all about creating new human senses. some animals can already sense north, why shouldn't we? he wants this to be the start of an entirely in—built navigation system. it's got the north pole, netherlands, israel, paris, us. rich lee is a ao—year—old cabinet—maker from st george in utah in the us. basically, i stick this onto my arm and it basically charges my body. it's like a taser. i can do fun pranks where ijust grab a door knob
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and just wait for somebody to come up and get electrocuted. i think it's hilarious. he's also a grinder, a bio hacker that does extreme body modification. so, i've got a magnet right here in this finger, right on the side, and another one on my middle finger right here. on the other side of my hands i've got a small nfc chip that's about the size of a grain of rice right here. i've got another nfc chip right here. it's about yea big. over here i've got a bio thermal chip on my arm. up here i've got implants right in my tragus, this little bit of cartilage stuff that you have got right at the front of your ear. when i go out to a restaurant or something like that, i'lljust be messing with it at the table and it always catches people's eyes and they are like, wow, how is he doing that? as soon as you get it, you go round and now the world has
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magnet porn and you're looking at your microwave and seeing all these different appliances that are putting out really big fields and it's just always going in the background and it's like your sense of taste or something, you just take it for granted. i want to see a biologically fluid society where people can just augment these things. lidocaine, if i need to numb myself for a procedure. tonnes of syringes, inner muscular injections. ok, these are fantastic legs. this home experimentation can of course go very badly wrong. these are the scars left by one of rich's failed body hacks. in—built shin guards that got so swollen they had to come out again. and then we had a metal rod that was basically being shoved down the length of my shin and basically separating the tissue from the shin. on the removal, i didn't use any anaesthesia at all. i took out the scissors and cut the stitches and pulled it out with pliers. so that was it. there are bio hackers working with far less extreme methods
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and i've come to berlin to meet one. this is dirk. his bio hacking is all about experimenting to try and optimise his health. as unrealistic as it sounds, dirk wants to live to 150. this started with trying to keep your hair. essentially. and spiralled. let's get this up here. that's what i take almost daily. 5000 i use per drop. l—carnitine, l—glutamine, l—tyrosine, dcaas, amino acids, collagen. omega 3 is pretty standard. mk7. sleep optimisation, melatonin. chaga. that is the nastiest supplement i have. i would not recommend taking that. that is just your standard glucose meter, just like any diabetic. 0h! dirk is not actually diabetic but checks his blood sugar daily to make sure it's at optimum stable levels. i would be willing to take pretty much anything in order to improve my biology. is this all available
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over—the—counter? what you see here is, there's stuff that's not. how do you get it? it's not over the internet. i actually get it from pharmacies. prescription stuff? yeah. that you haven't got a prescription for? yeah. may i ask who is doing that for you? no. what does your doctor make of what you do? my doctor doesn't even know anything about it because one thing about bio hacking is taking 100% responsibility for your own biology. i do my research myself and i do take the full responsibility for it. you want to try and live as long as possible. at the highest quality of living. if i have no quality of living, that's not really worth living. how long do you think you can live? easily 150 years. well, i'm a relatively old dad of a 16—month—old and being a biologically young dad is one of my biggest motivations behind all that. back in utah, and grinder rich works
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on his most ambitious project yet. i've got so many vibration motors, it's not even funny. the lovetron 9000. a very long—running plan for a built—in vibrator to be installed under the skin just above the penis, basically designed to turn him into a sex god. a material that was made to simulate flesh. it wasn't too big of a stretch just to say i'm putting a vibration motor in my body. why not have one downstairs and become a sex cyborg or something like that? i have been through so many prototypes. i think i'm on number ten right now. i estimate that i've maybe sunk $15,000 into it. still running into hurdles but we're getting there. my parents and my kids have been really supportive. some things theyjust think are kind of gross but i don't pester them about golf and they don't pester me
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about bio hacking. and you can read more about that story by going to the bbc news site. lawyers representing the family of a 49—year—old mum of two of two from birmingham who died after cosmetic surgery abroad say they're invstigating up to ten further cases where plastic surgery in a foreign country has gone wrong. in october we revealed on this programme that tryce harry is the second british woman to die in a syrgery abroad this year. she had undergone a so—called "brazilian bum lift" operation in hungary. it's a proceudre where fat is liposucked from one part of the body and re—injected into the buttocks. yesterday at her inquest a coroner ruled that her death wasn't the result of negligence, but of a fat embolism which is essentially when fat tissue passes into the bloodstream and lodges within a blood vessel. tryce harry's family say they're devastated. her husband kirk said in a statement:
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"if i could turn the clock back, i would, and i would advise anyone considering this procedure to have it done here in this country where medical practices are expected to be better. whatever the cost, one can't put a price on life. you only get one life." the family were represented at yesterday's hearing by isabel bathhurst from solicitors slater and gordon. the family were represented at yesterday's hearing by isabel bathhurst from solicitors slater and gordon. she went into the clinic in budapest, under the care of a co nsulta nt budapest, under the care of a consultant plastic surgeon in hungary, she investigated the right surgeon, and went in in good faith, when she went into the surgery she was probably assessed, during the third part of the procedure, where fat is reinjected into her buttocks, that was identified by the autopsy
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of having gone into her bloodstream, causing oxygen blood levels to fall, resulting in cardiac arrest. about an hour after the surgery had finished. that is a risk with the procedure, it is not neglect from the clinic? it is of high risk, because when contemplating the surgery, one must look at what is of higher risk than normal surgery. surgery, one must look at what is of higher risk than normal surgerym the statement, they said it was not a decision made lightly by either of us, but we had no misgivings, we thought we had found the perfect place, other people had been in the same, and very happy with their treatment. that is absolutely right, thatis treatment. that is absolutely right, that is what people are doing, researching, finding competent surgeons abroad, what has happened here is possibly something just went wrong during surgery and we are investigating as to what went wrong, it isa investigating as to what went wrong, it is a medical question. the
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difficulty is, abroad there might not be the regulation we have here and also the follow—up, we don't know exactly what happened following the end of surgery and relation to her after care. hence, the emotional plea from mr harry, if you are considering something like this, don't go abroad, do it here, because of the reasons you have outlined. don't go abroad, do it here, because of the reasons you have outlinedm isa of the reasons you have outlinedm is a very important message, he is heartbroken, that is a heartfelt plea of his. we are not using a photograph at the request of the family, i know that she has two grown—up children, how are the family? they are distraught, they are still recovering, they are a private family and did not want to be dragged into this, they wanted to raise concern of this kind of decision about going abroad for this kind of surgery with all the risks involved. is there a possibility
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they may take legal action? that is being contemplated, yesterday they went through the inquest and there are questions that remain unanswered, and that would be the mechanism to look into this so they can get to the truth, which is there a concern. thank you very much for talking to us. cold, damp, rats and dirty public corridors shared with strangers, it doesn't sound much like a home. but housing charity shelter claims that more than 130,000 children in the uk will be homeless and living in temporary accommodation, hostels, b&bs and emergency shelters in conditions like this, this christmas. the charity claims one in every 103 children in britain is now homeless, the highest number in more than a decade. let's talk now to 25—year—old
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limarra sealy and her daughter neveah, who's nine. they are currently officially homeless, they've been living in hostels, and are currently sleeping on limarra's mum's sofa. limarra works full time as an assist manager at nando's. also with us, 39—year—old mum of two cha ntelle welsh. she was homeless with her children for 13 months and it still affects her. and we have also been contacted by one of the viewers this morning. lola, from the south—west of england, made homeless just yesterday, with her two young daughters. talking to us on the phone. talking to us, i am going to talk first if i may with limarra and neveah, who has permission to have the day off school today to talk to us, how did you find yourself in the situation you are in now, sleeping on your mothers sofa, three weeks
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before christmas? i was renting privately for seven years, in september last year, the landlord wa nted september last year, the landlord wanted possession of his property back, i went down to my local council, i had no clue what the section 21 eviction was. the first question i was asked, am i in arrears? which i was not. i then had to wait for a possession order, and a court order. before the bailiffs we re a court order. before the bailiffs were due to come, the council moved me out, and they said, settle any rent. me and my daughter would be moved into suitable accommodation, we went into the council, all the staff in a removalfan, and they said, the only suitable accommodation would be in redbridge, ididn't accommodation would be in redbridge, i didn't know where that was until i googled it, or outside of our borough, which was 90 minutes away. an hourand a borough, which was 90 minutes away. an hour and a half from where you go to school. i then had to put all my
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stuff in storage on that day, we went to this property which they said was a studio, it was actually a bedroom come up with a cooker right next to our head. we have some pictures. let's have a look at these. you can talk us through it. this is a picture of the hostel we moved into after the studio. this is one of the bathrooms we had to use, that was one of the cleanest bathrooms —— cleanest bathrooms, actually. that is the property we we re actually. that is the property we were given first, with the cooker next to our head, the mattress was com pletely next to our head, the mattress was completely dirty. this one is where we are living at our mothers, not a lot of space, we have to put stuff outside that is not in storage. because it was so far from neveah‘s school, you stayed in the 1—room place and you stayed with auntie, so you could go to school. the hostel
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was better than living in the place that we went before. i did not get to visit that, but i knew it was better. still worth it, i did not get to have my own room, i had to share. now, living with my grandmother is better but i still have to live on the sofa. when you wa ke have to live on the sofa. when you wake up, you are on the floor, because you have fallen off. what is it like when you sleep on the sofa and try to go to school?” it like when you sleep on the sofa and try to go to school? i am sticking to the sofa, when i wake up, because it is leather, it is sticky. when i was living in the hostel, it was weird living with strangers. was it clean? what was it like? when i went to the shower, i had to wear slippers. in the night, i would wet myself because i could not use the toilet in the night.
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because it was so disgusting. not use the toilet in the night. because it was so disgustingm not use the toilet in the night. because it was so disgusting. it was actually horrible, sometimes, shared showers, you press a button, so if you are washing your back, the water cuts off, people would use it and not clea n cuts off, people would use it and not clean it out, we were going to the shower with bleach and everything, cameras as well, when you are walking down the hallway in your town, there is cameras, people coming out of their rooms, people coming out of their rooms, people coming in with shopping, it was not nice. thank you for talking to us, we appreciate you contacting the programme, what happened to you being evicted yesterday, december four? ongoing thing since last year. the house was in a quite severe state of disrepair, leaking roof, mouldy, i couldn't find anyone to ta ke mouldy, i couldn't find anyone to take us on being a single mother,
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nobody accepts housing benefits. where are you living now? where did you sleep last night? we were given emergency accommodation, it is quite nice, we were really lucky, i don't know how long we will stay here. how old are your children? eight and nine. how are you feeling? i don't know what the next step is. we are a bit relieved. we don't know whether we will get to stay there the next week, where we will be for christmas. you said people will not ta ke christmas. you said people will not take you because you are on benefits. you work, you are an assistant manager at nando's, it was the advice given to you, cut down your hours, then you can get universal credit, but you didn't wa nt to universal credit, but you didn't want to do that. it took them two months to work out if i was entitled to housing benefit for the hostel.
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they told me, pay the service charge. i told them, i am working full—time, it was literally all my pay plus my storage and my travel, i would have no money left, i showed them, and they said, have you thought about cutting your hours and going on universal credit. and you decided to move to your mother's. universal credit. and you decided to move to your mother'slj universal credit. and you decided to move to your mother's. i wanted to carry on working, they told me, stay in full—time work, i would not be able to afford the hostel, and i would have got evicted for rent arrears. it is a crazy cyclical nightmare. you were homeless for 13 months with your 14—year—old daughter and nine—year—old son. what
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impact does it still have on you? the impact is financial, i am still financially recovering, emotionally recovering, my daughter, especially, really impacted her in a big way, i wanted her to come today but she is dealing with the shame, and very private... it is the shame of what she went through, i don't think there is enough exposure and enough awareness about the effects of what homelessness does to children psychologically. and also what homelessness is. many people think it is about people sleeping in doorways and without a roof over your head, they may say to you, at least you have a roof over your head,it least you have a roof over your head, it may be temporary, it may be officially homeless, at least you are not rained on? that could not be further from the truth, if you are homeless, if you are sharing with friends and family, that is no
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excuse, by law you are entitled to your own home, i think it is an easy way out for, i don't know, the government, local councils, to sweep people under the carpet, that is why there is this thing of invisible homelessness, i am glad you have touched on that, there is a misconception, stereotypical views of what homelessness is, people like myself, and neveah and her mother, you think, you are ok, you have a roof over your head... did you ever think you would find yourself in this scenario? my situation is very similarto limarra, i this scenario? my situation is very similar to limarra, i was renting for six years, my landlord needed his property back urgently, during that time, i was pregnant, my landlord said that by law, because they were different sexes, they
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would be entitled to their own room, i went to the council with my section 21, i took them away, went back with my eviction notice, they did not take the housing application seriously. this is from the homelessness minister, she is a conservative minister, she said, no family should be left without a roof over their head, especially during the winter months, we are working to ensure everyone banned all children have a safe place to stay where they can thrive, councils have a duty to provide temporary accommodation, we have been clear they also have a duty to prevent homelessness in the first place. does not address the lack of houses that have been built in order to cope with people so there is enough houses for families to live in, notjust those... there is not enough. coming to the end of the programme, what hope do you have that you will get a permanent place for you and neveah?”
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that you will get a permanent place for you and neveah? i don't have any hope at the moment, they accepted my homeless application, it took 177 days to find me homeless, i'm supposed to be bidding but it is suspended, one part of the council is blaming the other part of the council, first saying it could be the arrears on the account, which have been cleared for the last two weeks now. i was asking for them to clear it, but i earn enough for them to clear it, it is for incomes, and we have not seen what will happen next. we will continue to be in touch with you. we want to see this through to an optimistic end if we can. thank you, all of you, thank you for coming onto the programme. back tomorrow, ten, bbc newsroom life is next. rain is edging north through
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scotland, far north of scotland remains dry and bright, some sunshine, a bit chilly here, elsewhere, quite a milestone, really, temperatures getting to about ten to 14 degrees. wet weather for a about ten to 14 degrees. wet weather fora time, about ten to 14 degrees. wet weather for a time, eventually it will clear, lots of cloud over that tonight, further showers moving into the west, nowhere near as cold as la st the west, nowhere near as cold as last night across northern scotland, getting down to —9, temperature nine to 11 degrees across the south, during thursday, lots of cloud, showery outbreaks of rain west to east, but again, mild day for all of us. you're watching bbc newsroom live.
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it's11.00am and these are the main stories this morning: in the next half—hour, the government will publish the full legal advice it was given on theresa may's brexit plan after it was found to be in contempt of parliament. mps will resume debating the brexit deal this afternoon, as the prime minister battles to save her plan. i think that there is, as i have written recently, a real danger that the house of commons, which is a natural remain majority, may attempt to steal brexit from the british people, which i think would be a democratic affront. in his first broadcast
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