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works in catering. although he doesn't plan to sign on, he is also critical. it is bad timing. when it comes to putting policies into place like this one, they should totally know the sense of reality, that's the right word, a sense of reality of what goes on in the normal life, in the normal world, in the normal working class people. ashleyjohn—baptiste, bbc news. it's time for a look at the weather with louise lear. good evening. it has been a blustery, showery saturday right gci’oss blustery, showery saturday right across the country. the showers took their time across the country. the showers took theirtime in across the country. the showers took their time in getting their act together, but when they arrived, boy, we knew about it. merging together for longer spells of rain for a time when they pushed in from west to east. those showers are still going to be a nuisance across ireland and wales as they go through the night, with plenty of isobars on the night, with plenty of isobars on the chart, that is where the strongest wind will be across wales in south—west england. the showers will start to drift steadily south and we will see fewer showers
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developing through the wind is still very much a feature. widely gusting in excess of 50 or 60 mph, may be a long channel facing coasts, with exposure, we could see more than that. slightly lighter wind will allow the temperatures to fall away. in rural parts of scotland we could see a touch of white frost. the weather is starting to come from the north. a subtle change as we go through tomorrow. dry with more sunshine coming through and a cooler deal with that northerly wind direction. we could start with a few showers with the trailing friend to clear away. behind it is that north westerly flow. tagging in behind that front, the cooler air will sink southwards. a rush of showers for early birds across england and wales. they ease off, and bike coffee time they have gone. we will see the skies clearing, a brisk north—westerly. with any exposure it will feel quite chilly. 5—8 degrees across the east coast. further south and west we might see 11 or 12 if we
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are lucky. factor in the wind and it will feel on the chilly side if you are out for any length of time. in fa ct, are out for any length of time. in fact, we keep the clearer skies on the whole through sunday night and into the early hours of monday morning. temperatures will fall away in scotland and northern england. below freezing in rural spots. just above in towns and city centres. a frost is lightly, and monday morning could be the coldest start of the week. but there could be some sunshine. a week weather front trying to squeeze into the west could bring cloud and a few isolated showers. generally speaking, monday will be a quiet day, the best of the sunshine will be further east. still particularly chilly with the exception of the far south—west. that is how we loved, tuesday and wednesday. milder air trying to push in from the west, bringing the risk ofa in from the west, bringing the risk of a few showers. generally speaking, largely dry and fine. take care. hello, this is bbc news.
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we'll be taking a look at tomorrow morning's papers in a moment. first, the headlines. violence on the streets of paris — tear gas and rubber bullets have been used to break up crowds of anti—government protestors. more than 700 people have been arrested, with many others injured. senior government minister amber rudd becomes the first minister to openly discuss alternatives to the prime minister's brexit deal. meanwhile, the conservative mp will quince has resigned as a parliamentary aide to the defence secretary, saying he cannot support the prime minister's withdrawal agreement. in new zealand, detectives are to charge a man with the murder of the 22—year—old british backpacker. in the us, president trump has announced that his chief of staffjohn kelly is to leave the white house at the end of the year. hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be
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bringing us tomorrow. with me are the author and journalist yasmin alibhai—brown and the economist ruth lea. susie on twitter says she looks forward to clever winning talking over each other in a delightful way. we'll be delightful and clever but hopefully we'll try and be respectful of each other‘s talking space. we've got a bit of a problem, we can't zoom in on these front pages, unfortunately. anyway, those that we have, and we don't have many, they lead on brexit. let's begin with the sunday telegraph and the headline — "may losing grip as party is rocked by resignations" — the paper claims two members of the government are resigning over brexit and a cabinet minster is also considering whether to quit.
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and of course this all comes before the crucial vote in the commons on tuesday. or not. the sunday times — billing an exclusive — says the prime minister is planning to delay the vote. the mail on sunday — "back me or get corbyn and no "brexit" — says theresa may, in an interview with the paper — pleading to tory rebels to get on side. and still on brexit — according to the independent, more than half of voters now want the uk to stay in the eu. as of this month, 52% of people polled favour remain. also on the front page is a striking image of demonstrators in paris — as a fourth weekend of anti—government protests across france turned violent. so, let's begin with paris. and the sunday telegraph. the picture on the front page, harris under siege, fire in the background, and these heavily, heavily armed police on the streets. i think they've got a harder response now. for the first
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few weekends, there was a kind of softer froch, but i think now especially as some concessions have been made on the fuel, and it seems to me, you know, things gather momentum so the original purposes lost, and actually, it comes post to an anarchic situation. initially, it was about the fuel tax increases and emmanuel macron completely backed down on that. should he have done? perhaps he thought he would stop the riots but he hasn't done and it seems to have morphed into a general protest about the economic state of the country, is able talking about wanting more pay, more pensions, there is 10% unemployment in france, all these sorts of problems, and it has morphed into a general protest against huawei who is an incredibly unpopular —— against emanuel huawei,
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who is an incredibly unpopular man. . there is an uprising gene that is spreading. i think emmanuel macron hasn't been able to deliver. and you get the protest is, the genuine protesters, and you get people pushing in who wanted and allows parts of paris. but he built himself as the antiestablishment politician, although of course he had incredible credentials in terms of his education in his career. yes. i was pleased that he saw off the hard right party, and seemed fresh, and i still think, i still believe he has a lot to offer both france and europe. but ijust feel there is something going on at his bigger
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than france, bigger than america, something that, you know, they will not stop. then you get this kind of overreaction, perhaps, 700 arrested, tomorrow it might be 1200. students work protest —— the rest did, protesting that the baccalaureate that they didn't like. he seemed to be the great new man who would clean the stables. is there anybody who would satisfy democracies anymore?” don't know. but general does appointment is one thing. people have died, the violence has been incredible. the authorities are concerned about the ultraviolet factions from all sides coming to join this group of people who don't dig really want to put a leader forward and are quite happy, staying the same. the french revolution
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started with the right reasons and the second and third and fourth revolutions were just destructive. the anarchistsjust revolutions were just destructive. the anarchists just walk in. revolutions were just destructive. the anarchistsjust walk in. it is very interesting, imagine the centre of paris. it is a real problem. problems in germany, italy, here. and the impact on the economy in the run—up to christmas when the shops are usually busy, there would be lots of tourists there, the big stores all boarded up, all closed. the eurozone economy is not doing nearly. there just seems to me as the economy is slowing down. they still have 10% unemployment and i just feel that people feel very disappointed. i think people have ridiculous expectations of politicians, but on the other hand it did seem he would solve the problems and he has not succeeded in doing that. one of the thing about france and some other european countries, and i am on the left, i
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believe in workers' rights. there has been an adjustment to modern circumstances. i'm afraid that is france and it is stuck in the eurozone. i blame the eurozone for lots of things, i certainly blamed for a lot of italy's problem. but i hope it kind of quiet and is down. i think we are in for a re—very difficult period in all our histories. there was a march tomorrow that is really scaring me, tommy robredo on and ukip are going to march tomorrow. —— tommy robinson. i would to march tomorrow. —— tommy robinson. iwould have to march tomorrow. —— tommy robinson. i would have gone on the counter march but i am ready frightened of these bugs. let's talk about wrexham. may i commend you both for not talking across each other. —— let's talk about brexit. let's look at the telegraph as best
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we can. we can read the headline but we can. we can read the headline but we cannot read the text so we are going to have to risk around it a bit. me losing grip as party is rocked by resignations. —— theresa may losing grip. we know about pps, will quint has stepped down, after a long line of resignations, because the cannot support the withdrawal agreement that is going to be voted uponin agreement that is going to be voted upon in tuesday. he is a veryjunior minister, the pps is the lowest rank in the ladder. 0ver minister, the pps is the lowest rank in the ladder. over the last six months, we've seen borisjohnson, david davis, dominik raabe, esther mcveigh, though. when you start losing cabinet minister is, it becomes readable call. a big question hang in overall of this is when sirgraham question hang in overall of this is when sir graham brady, the chairman of the 1922 committee, might trigger
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a leadership election with the signatures. it is what the nation needs to happen and then what the tory party wants to happen and it seems to me that... i'm afraid... i'm afraidl seems to me that... i'm afraid... i'm afraid i am utterly and totally dismayed by the political shenanigans at the moment. joined the labour party. corbyn? you must be joking! mcdonnell? he the labour party. corbyn? you must bejoking! mcdonnell? he is my the labour party. corbyn? you must be joking! mcdonnell? he is my sort of guy! i feel it is very worrying andl of guy! i feel it is very worrying and i don't like to see this but i think this can only lead to extra speculation that there will be some sort of leadership election. that won't solve the whole brexit issue. of course it won't but i'm just trying to suggest where it might be going. let's look at what is going to happen this week. we'll look at
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the daily mail. sorry, the mail on sunday, a different paper. exclusive, pm's wa ke—up sunday, a different paper. exclusive, pm's wake—up call, back me or get corbyn and no brexit. it was back the deal or get no brexit, oi’ was back the deal or get no brexit, or get a hard brexit, wasn't it? and now we've got this extra element here. it is the sound of weakness, when you hold up corbyn as a major kind of wicket devil that is going to come and take it. everything is so rational at the moment. it is like blind faith, yellow, —— you know, i grew up on the colonies, we used to think this was such a pragmatic, superefficient come true, right? it doesn't look like that any more to the world, does it? but it is democracy, isn't it? it's not democracy, it is shambolic.”
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is democracy, isn't it? it's not democracy, it is shambolic. i agree with every word yasmin has just said. a first. that's bottle that, shall we? rewind it. available on iphone. joking apart, the brexit negotiations have been shockingly handled. right from the minute we had the referendum which was way backin had the referendum which was way back injune had the referendum which was way back in june 2016, had the referendum which was way back injune 2016, obviously had the referendum which was way back in june 2016, obviously then there was a change... it seems so much long ago. then there was a change of time minister, at that point, that is when the new government and theresa may should have decided what sort of exit they wanted. you didn't hear a thing. after the election, they should have had it. they've only with the year by then. sorry, i'm talking about when she became prime minister after the referendum, sorry, did i say collection? i meant referendum, in the summerof collection? i meant referendum, in the summer of 2016, that was the time to think about the brexit that you wanted but we didn't hear anything. to be fair, we did have
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the lancaster house speech in january 2017 when she said no deal is better than a bad deal, do you remember that one? that was the riff at the time. and of course we would be leaving the single market and the customs union. and i thought, we are on our way. customs union. and i thought, we are on our way. figured article 50. but if you ask a lot of different people what they meant... with remain, it was clear what they wanted. if you voted to leave, you got dozens and dozens voted to leave, you got dozens and d oze ns of voted to leave, you got dozens and dozens of different interpretations of what that meant. most people i know who left took the view that it was voting leave to get control, leaving the customs union, and that is what it so me said. and if i may say so, to pursue it for a second, then we had the general election, and everything went quiet, and the commission drove all the negotiations, they called all the shots, and we seems to be going
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behind. you know, what you said, eve ryo ne behind. you know, what you said, everyone you know had this very clear idea of what they were voting for. actually, different people had very different ideas of what they we re very different ideas of what they were voting for. they said they wanted to leave the eu to gain control... i went to kirklees two weeks ago... that in yorkshire! i used to go there a lot to teach. i went to talk to people and i can tell you, there were ten, 12, different reasons given. they did not know enough about the technicalities. what they were saying was they wanted parliamentary sovereignty. well, we've got parliamentary sovereignty. that's great, you have hit the nail of the head. while entry sovereignty means out of the customs union, out of the single market. canada is a free trade agreement, that is consistent with parliament we sovereignty, norway, it is at cracking idea.
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with parliament we sovereignty, norway, it is at cracking ideal lot of people are supporting it. amber rudd is. she is a remainer! norway plus, that would keep us in some kind of customs union, access to the single market, it would require... there would be freedom of movement. but, surely,, not surely, is that way of pushing people towards the that is currently on the table? a lot of people who prefer a ha rd table? a lot of people who prefer a hard brexit or no—deal brexit, the current deal is at norway plus. one would have to ask amber rudd but all i would say is that the norway plus option isjust i would say is that the norway plus option is just an appalling option. why? it stay in the single market, if it is the plus, basically staying in the customs union as well. it will have to be to sort out the irish problem. where was norway does not have that problem, norway'sjust
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in the single market. it means you are absolutely in hock to the eu legislation. not the ec]. and you are expected to comply with it.” think we need another referendum which asks this question, there are only two options now, no deal leave or remain? i think nothing else is going to work. in that case, the deal will have to die, and then the commons, parliament will have to have legislation. people need to decide do they want to stay in the eu or leave without a deal. i think all the rest is just hot air. eu or leave without a deal. i think all the rest isjust hot air. you may think that but you've got to have legislation in order to have a second referendum. and you would have to extend article 50 and the eu 27 would probably say yes to extending article 50 of it were for a second referendum. that rings us
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back to the headline, back me or get no brexit and corbyn. if it's inevitable that theresa may stands down? is it inevitable that her tenure as a minister has to come to an end? there is an interesting photo of her in the telegraph where she has a blue suit on like margaret thatcher and she was to hand back... she's evoking margaret thatcher. let's look at it. shall i put it on the desk? there she is, this is the picture we are talking about, on the sunday times. it is our last paper which we also can't read very well. an exclusive, theresa may to hand back brussels in a frantic bid to save il. the subheading is pm will delay commons vote, which is something she said she wouldn't do.
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she often says things and then a nswe rs she often says things and then answers them. she's all over the place. what is she responding to the situation? where is the leadership? do you know? i think there is a caesar in this woman. the state is made, and! caesar in this woman. the state is made, and i think she should be very careful, she doesn't carry her cabinet with her. she needs to be much more a person who can work with people. but how can you carry a cabinet with you if your deal was so difficult to win because of the negotiations and not everybody wants it, likes it, there are elements that suit some people and not others? i should be very interested to see what truth there is behind this story, i think this is an important story by the way. to hand back brussels in frantic bid, in other words, she wants to go back to brussels and renegotiate the deal,
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which is all 599 pages, and they have said no. unless she has some major, major concessions from the eu, the commons is going to look at it and say, it is basically the same. and the really big problem is the protocol, and this would click in at the end of the transition period if there was not the future relationship sort that out because the transition period can be extended. i think it is a way of delaying things. i don't think it will really change brussels. there are will really change brussels. there a re two will really change brussels. there are two huge problems with the protocol, one is we don't have the unilateral ability to leave it, it has to be a joint decision. you mean the backstop? it keeps northern ireland ina the backstop? it keeps northern ireland in a customs union, keeps us all in the customs union. huge, huge physical differences with that question, with full commission give way on those things? but it gives
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her time. she says, way on those things? but it gives hertime. she says, i'm way on those things? but it gives her time. she says, i'm going to go and go back. tuesday is in two days' time. i can't believe it. two days! women to be leaving at the end of march, it is bizarre. the ides of march. i think that is in the middle of march! what you make of the concerns expressed early in the week about the problems we have seen —— we would see other ports, in particular? six months of chaos, kent coming to a standstill, not enough customs inspectors to see all of the goods into the country. the first thing is it was called the worst—case scenario in the event of no deal. i would love to know what probability they assigned to it, i expected is not .1%. in the telegraph today, it said the ports can manage. there is a specific robin with dover because of course they can always be problems on the other side of the channel but
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basically when you are pushing trade through, you don't do massive checks on it, it is basically electronic and the customs do certain minimum checks. wasn't that the case, though, because we were in a customs union and they'll supposed to be free movement? and we would be losing that. can ijust say... i've given up. wishful thinking. losing that. can ijust say... i've given up. wishfulthinking. could i say something? yes, please do. 5596 say something? yes, please do. 55% of our trade is with non—eu countries, and we trade and wto rules and it is done electronically with very few checks. and that is the wto system. but even to be part of the wto system, it is not instantaneous. oh, it is! we are members. if we leave with no deal, it will be no trade deal, we will go
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straight into trading under the beauty oh rules. this is quite irresponsible, ruth. it's true! you are creating these fairy tales. we've had the national health service, the care workers, those who own care homes, which had the economic forecasts... own care homes, which had the economic forecasts. .. you didn't believe those, did you? are you an economic forecaster?” believe those, did you? are you an economic forecaster? i do respect mark carney, i do. and ijust think this is like blind faith. really, it is like mind faith. a formal faith we just want to demonise everybody who brings you some information. excuse me, how do we trade with non—eu countries? we trade with them underwto. non—eu countries? we trade with them under wto. what was the figure you gave us watching mark 55%. what happens to the other rest. we trade under wto is rules. but the eu won't
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give you that. they will. they will be infringing the cbo —— wto agreements. one day, you will see. that music... at 11:30pm. that's it for the papers this hour. yasmin alibhai—brown and ruth lea will be back at 11.30pm for another look at the papers. good morning. saturday was a windy, showery day for many bus. the bulk of us on sunday, it will be dry with sunny spells. the strongest of the winds over the
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next two hours will slowly start to ease but we still could potentially see gales forced guff in places. 0ne of the reasons they will either way is due to a change in wind direction, starting to push down and that will push the frontal system further south in the early hours of sunday morning. introducing some cold air behind it, the wind direction coming from a northwesterly. we could have some early showers, they would ease away, it is an improving picture as we go through sunday, clearing skies, and sunny spells coming through. a few showers into north wales and northern ireland in the art and then, everyone to and western isles. but as windy as the last few days but you have to factor in the direction of the wind because that will make it feel cooler out there. six to 7 degrees in the north, we mightjust see a 11 down into the south—west. 0vernight, sunday night, we keep to the clear skies and the winds falling lighter still.
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temperatures are likely to fall away ina temperatures are likely to fall away in a northern half of the country, scotland, noble england, we will see... a chilly start, jerry, across the country. a cold start to the new working week but try, bright one, again some sunshine coming through. a few isolated showers out of the west. this will be the trend as we move into the week. the best of the dry, sunny weather will be in eastern areas but that is where the coolest of the weather will be, four to6 coolest of the weather will be, four to 6 degrees in the south and west, ten to 12 degrees the high. this will be the theme. to the east, dragon in the colder airfrom the near continent by the west wants to drag back the milder air and the south—westerly winds and mac could also bring more and settled weather with it. we see this again on tuesday, southerly wind drives in the weather front, tuesday, southerly wind drives in the weatherfront, bringing outbreaks of rain. further east,
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drier, brighter, colder weather, four to 6 degrees again the high, ten to 12 into the south—west. further ahead, we start to see that milder weather pushing its way in as that bumps into the cold air, it could get tricky with some wintry weather to higher ground. this is bbc news. i'm martine croxall. the headlines at 11: tear gas and rubber bullets have been used to break up crowds of anti—government protestors in paris. 126 people have been injured, including several police officers. they have been pushing them up and down the street all morning and li tingshen is starting to rise. —— and the tension is starting to rise. a plan b for brexit? amber rudd becomes the first minister to openly discuss alternatives to the prime minister's deal. what happens if it is voted down and
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anything could happen. there are lots of different things that could happen, most of which they don't wa nt to happen, most of which they don't want to happen. so when they think about this deal they happy way up the alternatives as well. —— they have to weigh up the alternatives. meanwhile, the conservative mp will quince has resigned from the government, saying he "cannot support" the prime minister's withdrawal agreement. police in new zealand are to charge a 26—year—old man with the murder
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