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the windy. a lot to play for in the weather, certainly this weekend we need to keep abreast of the forecast. hello. this is bbc news. i martine croxall. we'll be taking a look at tomorrow morning's papers in a moment — first the headlines. the rebel attempt to remove the prime minister failed, but more than a third of her party failed to support her. the number of votes cast in favour of having confidence in theresa may was 200. and against was 117. minutes later, the prime minister emerged from number ten to give her response to the outcome. i am pleased to have received the backing of my colleagues in tonight's ballot. while i am gratefulfor that support, a significant number of colleagues did cast a vote against me and i have listened to what they said. meanwhile, there were were wildly divergent views on how good the result was for theresa may. this is a strong vote of support for the prime minister. more mps supported her tonight
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than they did in the leadership contest in 2016. prime minister must realise that by all constitutional norms she ought to go and see the queen urgently and resign. hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are dia chakravarty, brexit editor for the telegraph, and david wooding, political editor for the sun on sunday. they have had a very busy day and tomorrow will not be any easier. thank you for being with us tonight. let's have a look at some of tomorrow's front pages. no prizes for guessing what is dominating the morning's news. keep may and carry on! says the metro, which of course leads on news that theresa may lives to fight another day after winning the confidence vote in her leadership of
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the conservative party. the daily telegraph asks a vote to remain but when will she leave? after the results of the ballot in which 200 mps voted in favour of mrs may — with 117 voting against. there's some festive fun on the front of the mirror which says it's lame duck for christmas, after her pledge not lead the tories into the next election. the guardian carries a picture of the prime minister as she gave a defiant speech outside number ten. the paper says the number of mps who voted against her leaves her badly damaged. may scrapes home says the times, which describes how a wounded prime minister was forced to concede that she would not lead the tories into the next general election in order to win the vote. the i describes it as a stay of execution and looks ahead to theresa may's latest challenge in the form of her trip to brussels tomorrow for a crucial eu summit. the mail calls on politicians to let mrs may get on with brexit after a day of high drama in westminster. and the sun simply says
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time to call it a may. to bea to be a subeditor tonight! the guardian. tory coup fails, but scale of rebellion damages theresa may. she has wonder she has lost a lot. absolutely. she has more than one third of tory mps voted against her. which is extraordinary, really. as i was saying in our previous segment, this situation leaves everybody a loser. obviously the erg tory colleagues who wanted to remove her from the office failed. that is undoubtedly true. but the way, at the sort of, the sort of support that she did get from her colleagues really fall short of what downing street was hoping to get. it is not quite enough. and it leaves her with
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the headache that at least this many of her colleagues are likely to vote against the deal that she brings back from the eu, because any sort of change that she will get from theml of change that she will get from them i think will be cosmetic at best and it just them i think will be cosmetic at best and itjust means them i think will be cosmetic at best and it just means that the parliamentary arithmetic is staring at in the face and it is not looking good for her. she has used the phrase it is a renewed mission. gas. it is very difficult to say what she can do to renew permission —— yes. they have made it quite clear that the deal she has got is all she is going to get. she said this is the only deal on the table. it is my deal or... she is now admitting it is not going to be no deal. so what is not going to be no deal. so what is it going to be, no brexit? i think she isjust is it going to be, no brexit? i think she is just going to keep banging on with this deal and trying to get it through. there will be a bit of semantics around it, i guess, to try to sell it, some arm—twisting going on, perhaps some sweetness to
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various groups to try to get them to support it, including labour mps, but the numbers, these numbers here, give you an idea of how many people, thatis give you an idea of how many people, that is within her own ranks. ii7 people feel so badly about it, these are the backbench mps. people feel so badly about it, these are the backbench mp5. you take out the ministers and the parliamentary aides and the trade envoys out about 200, it is about a majority of backbench mps who do not like it. earlier in the day the supporters we re earlier in the day the supporters were saying she only needs a majority of one and that is all that it will take to keep her in the post. but not really in any power. right. and if you think about how often that phrase has been used against her, that she is in office, but is she in power? itjust confirms that she really isn't. and many people would say she is now at the mercy of her cabinet colleagues, who are essentially saying, beginning to flex their muscles a little bit. liam fox, for example,
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who has been very quiet over the past few weeks, has said today that if that same deal comes back to the cabinet again, that cabinet members, her cabinet colleagues are not actually going to accept that deal. because she is weakened. the cabinet colleagues also note that a huge numberof colleagues also note that a huge number of backbenchers do not support her. she is reallyjust there, but after almost having begged her colleagues at the 1922 committee meeting, before the vote, please stay with me for now and i promise... —— know. she did not say promise, but she did say i understand i cannot lead you to the next general election, but please let me say for now. that is what it has come down to. that does not sound like a prime minister who is in power. it sounded like it was a fairly impassioned speech that she made to them before the vote, with a number of ministers present confessing to be in tears at the end
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of it. the home office minister were saying that she felt herself welling up saying that she felt herself welling up listening to it. —— was saying. the thing that theresa may will have to do is suddenly she has been accused of not doing enough, that is to listen. mps, senior mps, ex— cabinet ministers, and existing cabinet ministers have all spoken to her about the way she is handling the brexit process for two years now. their criticism is they feel she only listens to a small group of trusted aides, the chief of staff, a couple of civil servants, and she won't listen to anybody else. i think perhaps there may be some more pressure on her to start listening to other people rather than those small group of people who are driving this, because clearly listening to those few people has not given her what she needs to get this deal through. the daily mirror, her goose is cooked, it says. the picture of theresa may walking back into number 10 with the christmas
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tree in the foreground. it is lame duck for christmas. theresa may fends off rebels but only by promising to quit. a second referendum looms. how likely is it that we will end up with a second referendum now if parliament, in some ways, tries to wrest back control. there are so many ways the backward and could and couldn't happen. i think it would be very unlikely that theresa may can allow or instigate a second referendum. she has said time and time again that that is not something she thinks would be seen to be supporting or respecting the 2016 referendum. and reports are that whenever somebody brings up the possibility of a second referendum, thatis possibility of a second referendum, that is the only time she loses her cool and gets agitated, saying we cannot go down that lane, we will not have any credibility left. to a great extent she is absolutely right. we keep hearing that the 2016
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referendum was 2.5 years ago now, people are entitled to change their minds, butjust last year people are entitled to change their minds, but just last year about 80% of all these mps in parliament actually stood on manifestoes, both labour and conservative, which promised to respect the 2016 referendum. they then are overwhelmingly voted to deliver, to trickle article 50 in order to start the process —— trigger. you asked us to instruct us, and we gave you an instruction, it does not sound too good for them at all. that was before we knew the shape of the deal. and if people don't like the deal, should they put it, is it more likely that people put it back to the country? we have been asking this for weeks. the big problem is, if you put it back to the country, what is the question going to be?m would have to be multiple questions. if you asked three questions, deal, no deal, or remain... you are splitting the vote, the leaves of
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votes between the deal and no deal, which then allows remained to win. so you cannot do a 3—way vote. which then allows remained to win. so you cannot do a 3-way vote. you mean it is not simple? the other thing is the conservative party could never give a second referendum. most of their membership and supporters, their voters even, are either in support of brexit or not having a second referendum. that is bad. the labour party are discussing it, privately, in the parliamentary labour party. jeremy corbyn does not want a second referendum. they said they are not ruling anything out. that is because he is getting pressure from his troops. they are even divided on what the question should be. it would have to be a two week question. i think a 3—way question come protected even more. but too much information, that is the problem. so many questions i would wa nt to problem. so many questions i would want to ask people, just to make sure. the times, theresa may scrapes home. managing to get out of the car
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this time after getting stuck in it the other day meeting angela merkel. the mp will —— the pm will be forced to quit downing street before the next election. but when before? she cannot face another confidence vote from a party for a list of months. so she has laterally. one quote i thought was interesting there. —— so she has that. one minister said of that result, it was not enough, so the party can drive a stake through the party can drive a stake through the european support group, and it is not enough for the other group to drive a stake through the heart. ——a heart. if you are looking at elections in recent years that have sold up in, you can add this onto that as well. another situation where it was opened up to a vote of some sort which has absolutely settled nothing. meanwhile, she is still dependent upon the dup for any
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kind of business under this confidence and supply issue. that is in the balance because the backstop regarding the hard border in ireland has not been resolved. and the dup, you just need to lose them and it sta rts you just need to lose them and it starts to wobble all over again. in this times article it says there is a brexiteer conservative mp who says, he or she, a brexiteer conservative mp who says, he orshe, it a brexiteer conservative mp who says, he or she, it does not say who it is, would be prepared to vote against the government in a no—confidence motion put by labour. 0ra no—confidence motion put by labour. or a no—confidence vote to have taken out of office. i don't think this has particularly gone away. i think there will be looking at other ways to undermine her. she has been badly dented today. let us not forget that. tomorrow, to brussels, a group of countries who have said we will not reopen it is. what can
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we will not reopen it is. what can we say, she is weakened even more fiow. we say, she is weakened even more now. if they thought previously that she did not have much authority, that has been confirmed. they will think that even more. i think it is really interesting what david was saying earlier about her colleagues having this complaint against her that she simply does not listen. there were that she simply does not listen. there we re i’uitioui's that she simply does not listen. there were rumours that she told brussels, essentially, that she was going to pull the vote, the meaningful vote, on monday, going to pull the vote, the meaningfulvote, on monday, even before she discussed with her cabinet. she was sending cabinet colleagues like local —— michael gove out in the morning, i think i was on a rival radio channel saying that the vote is absolutely going to go ahead, when there were rumours at that stage that brussels already knew it was being pulled. downing street says that is not true. they deny that happen. but the fact that people believe that about her says lots about just how much distrust there is within her little team. the
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optics. perception carries a lot of weight. theresa may, one of the other issues, not just weight. theresa may, one of the other issues, notjust not listening to what cabinet ministers a about her, is that she holds everything close to her chest. she does not reveal very much. 0ne close to her chest. she does not reveal very much. one of the reasons she has run into so much trouble of some other policies, do you remedy dementia tax during the general election, she does not roll with the pictures —— do you remember. dropping some hints that she will do something in advance. tony blair would do this, we will reform this tuition fees, we'll start talking about it and speculative about it, and when the announcement was made we we re and when the announcement was made we were in the right frame of mind to listen to that. she just suddenly announces she will propose a dementia tax. she will say this is my deal. she is owed nobody any sign of that deal. she needs to show a little bit more what is going to do and where she is thinking and it helps. let's look at the daily mail.
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tory vote drama, get on with the job. theresa may sees plotters with two thirds of the party behind her but will not need it next election. we have commented on it before, but the difference with the daily mail with a different editor in charge is noticeable. is absolutely noticeable, isn't it? ithink noticeable. is absolutely noticeable, isn't it? i think this will be one of the few newspaper headlines that she might to get a bit of comfort from, which offers hera bit of comfort from, which offers her a little bit of comfort. there is some truth to this, i suppose, there have been a number of mps, i wasjust checking there have been a number of mps, i was just checking twitter drinks break and it seemed like another —— the numberof mps, break and it seemed like another —— the number of mps, like mps like brent —— ben bradley, who said i acce pt brent —— ben bradley, who said i accept this and now let's get on with it. the question is, what is it that she is meant to get on with's —— get on with? that she is meant to get on with's -- get on with? it is not how we
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speak. that is beautifully framed. that is the question. what is now going to happen? if we accept, most people do, that the deal with her now is not really going to change that much, no matter how many different european capitals she visits. what is it that she will be able to bring back to her own parliament which everybody falls behind? so she has delayed the inevitable, secured herself through and other confidence vote for another 12 months, but this boat she decided to have on tuesday... sorry... —— vote. decided to have on tuesday... sorry... -- vote. you are really not listening. i am really not listening! there we go. back in. sorry about that, that has never happened before in all of these yea rs. happened before in all of these years. this vote has got to come back and they want to get on with it. she doesn't have long, we are leaving the eu in 15 weeks!|j
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it. she doesn't have long, we are leaving the eu in 15 weeks! i tell you, it is 100 days the state until the leave the eu, i had that one in my diary. it is 107 then there. 170 days. i had in my diary, i might do a feature on it but of course it is overta ken a feature on it but of course it is ove rta ke n by a feature on it but of course it is overtaken by this so it doesn't really matter. she has still got to get this deal through and she is dotted about the steel. she is go to have to do something different. it will just the voted have to do something different. it willjust the voted down again. so where are we then? assuming it gets voted down, then what? two options. 0ne voted down, then what? two options. one is leaving without a deal which parliament will vote down the. how do they vote that down? there isn't a vote on that. the default position is if this deal gets voted down, we are in the realms of no deal, leaving on wto rules. theresa may has already betrayed the thoughts that she does not want to leave
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without a deal, she said no deal is better than a bad deal. chess, with a bad deal but still thinks it is than at no deal. isn't it interesting how changes? it's interesting. parliament will find a way, they will find a motion and it will be voted on to say they do not like it. we have the greed amendment. —— grieve. so that we have another way of saying what we want. we might steer towards the norway option, or the other thing is... norway plus, i think it was. the hardline remainers might try to get a second referendum. then you have got to have an act of parliament to get back in. extending article 50. let's look at the daily telegraph, talking about those parts of theresa may's inner circle, who speak highly of her and says she is a kind, caring
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and thoughtful person, but addicts say she does not listen to other people. here is somebody used to be a part of her inner circle writing a commentary. she lives to fight another day, but heard deal is as dead as a dodo. —— her deal. another day, but heard deal is as dead as a dodo. -- her deal. he talks about what nick talks about because the column is essentially about what next? the three options david just said and it says here is no deal, or norway plus deal, which you just talked about. or a second referendum. all three of those come with their own issues, with the no deal option is exactly what we were saying, is parliament going to step in and stop that? that is still the legal certainty. if they cannot agree on anything at all, then we leave on the 29th of march, that is actually set in law now because of
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the withdrawal, because it triggering article 50. it is very clear that the deal is not going to get through. it must mean that the deal she has negotiated will not get through, again, it is another uncertainty you have there without anything changing properly and it doesn't seem like anything is going to change dramatically. change cleverly said in one interview that borisjohnson has cleverly said in one interview that boris johnson has his cleverly said in one interview that borisjohnson has his pack at unnecessarily, that £7 50, he would not get back on sunday, he looked very smooth head compared to normal. ——james very smooth head compared to normal. —— james cleverly. very smooth head compared to normal. -- james cleverly. i must correct james on this because i saw auris last week and he had it cut in the house of commons headdresses and they charged me £15 to have that haircut. either he has got a half price deal, orjames cleverly has been naughty about the house of commons headdresses. that is it,
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thank you so much. such a busy day for you and it will continue tomorrow and for the next however many days, weeks months and years, we will be talking about it at the end of our careers, i am sure. that's it for the papers tonight. don't forget you can see the front pages of the papers online on the bbc news website. it's all there for you, seven days a week, at bbc.co.uk/papers. and if you miss the programme any evening you can watch it later on bbc iplayer. thank you, dia and david. had to have you here tonight. do buy a paper tomorrow. night night. hello, i'm sarah mulkerrins at the bbc sport centre. manchester city have sealed top spot in their champions league group, with a 2—1win at home against hoffenheim. after going a goal down early on, it was leroy sane who powered city to victory. his first goalfrom
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this fierce free kick. he then added a second just after the hour mark, finishing off a swift counter—attack. so city top of group f, with lyon in second. but manchester united suffered a 2—1 loss away at valencia and that means they finish second in group h. already qualified, jose mourinho made 8 changes to his team and valencia found things easy early on. carlos soler finishing well for the hosts. a lacklustre display was further compounded with an own goal from philjonesjust after the break. there was a late consolation when second half substitute marcus rashford pulled one back. juventus finish top of the group, despite losing 2—1 to young boys. a quick look at some other results — real madrid suffered their biggest ever home defeat in europe, thrashed 3—0 by cska moscow. they had already won their group. and there was a thrilling 3—3 draw between ajax and bayern munich. two reds, two penalties, and two late goals in that one.
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thomas muller one of the men sent off for a really high challenge with his foot in that game. so here's the full list of teams who've qualified for the knock—out stage. four teams from england, after liverpool and tottenham made it yesterday. three each from germany and spain, two from france and italy, with portugal and the netherlands also repesented. the draw takes place on monday. the celtic striker leigh griffiths will be "out of football for a little period of time" as he receives help with "ongoing issues", including his mental health. his manager brendan rodgers called the issues "confidential", but says griffiths "needs to find a happiness". he has had ongoing issues now for a number of months. he has done amazing to get through, to play to
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the level and score some of the goals that he has. but he has reached a point where it is a struggle for him and now, for us, we are going to give him all the professional help that he possibly needs to get himself into a good place, to come back doing what he does best. and england's men's hockey team have made it through to the semi—finals of the world cup. they beat reigning 0lympic champions argentina 3—2 in a thrilling match in india. with the scores level in the dying seconds of the third quarter, this brilliant long—ball from barry middleton set up will calnan to put england in front. argentina then levelled in the fourth from a penalty corner. gonzalo payat with his second goal of the match. but less than a minute later, england were back in front. harry martin sending them through to their third world cup
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semi—final in a row. that's all the sport for now. it is turning cold out there, quite widespread chill in the error as we go on into tomorrow. that chill exacerbated by a pretty brisk wind. it will be dry for most of us, high—pressure in charge. is frontal system tried to push in from the west bringing rain in western areas. it won't make more progress because it is running into the high blocking its progress and the squeeze between the two will be driving a brisk south—easterly wind across the country. starting off tomorrow morning, with temperatures hovering around freezing, maybe a little bit below in some places where we will have had clear skies through the night and then into tomorrow for many, it is looking dry. a few showers peppering north sea coast and a weather front wriggling around, bringing cloud, patchy rain into northern ireland, west wales and the far south—west. elsewhere there will be sunshine but there
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will also be a brisk wind, the wind particularly dusty for some western coastal areas. if you put, the moment outside, it might say four, five, six, seven degrees but factoring in the wind this is what it will feel like. spending the day in the channel islands it will feel like subzero, freezing in birmingham, one degree in glasgow, a chilly feeling day leading into a chilly feeling day leading into a chilly feeling day leading into a chilly feeling night. the wind will ease a little bit, more clear skies overhead, a recipe for a widespread frost across scotland down into england and wales, many places into freezing or below. even the towns and cities hovering around freezing. further west, not quite as cold because we will have more cloud. this weather front wriggling around, a few spots of rain on it and weekly cloud and a bit of rain in northern ireland by friday. elsewhere, fine, one 01’ ireland by friday. elsewhere, fine, one or two showers feeding into north sea coast. not as windy on friday, even though these numbers to look impressive it might feel a little less chilly than it does tomorrow. as we head into the
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weekend, these frontal systems which will have been blocked by this area of high pressure, by this stage they have more about them, making more progress. wet weather, but that rain running into cold air. just about anywhere they could temporarily be a little bit of snow mixing in and over high ground in northern ireland and partick over high ground in northern ireland and pa rtick scotland, over high ground in northern ireland and partick scotland, there is the potential for fairly widespread and disruptive snow on saturday. will keep you posted. the wintry weather likely to turn back into wet weather eventually as mild as spreads from the south—west and all of us will get into that mild air by sunday and monday. 0rfrom get into that mild air by sunday and monday. 0r from the four now, i wish you could announce —— all from me now, i wish you good night. welcome to newsday. i'm babita sharma live at westminster. the headlines: the parliamentary party does have confidence. theresa may survives a vote of no confidence from her own party, but the challenges over brexit remain. here is our new admission,
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delivering the brexit that people voted for, bringing the country back together, and forming a country that truly works for everyone. i'm rico hizon in singapore. also on the programme: president trump's former lawyer is jailed for three years. he says he felt it was his "duty to cover up his boss's dirty deeds."
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