securing its long—term future was not something the bbc could compromise on. nevertheless, at a time when parts of the corporation are enduring sharp cost—cutting, this overspend is an embarrassment. amol rajan, bbc news. hello. it is thursday, it's 9:30am, i am victoria derbyshire here at westminster with a specially extended programme. it is the morning after the night before. theresa may is heading to brussels to try and win more concessions on that brexit deal after surviving that brexit deal after surviving that vote of no conference by 200 votes to 117. when you have need to get on with building a better future for this country. the bbc understands that

the eu will not renegotiate the deal but might give more assurances on the temporary nature of the backstop, which is the sticking point for mps opposing the pi minister's plans. our focus has been on the withdrawal agreement and the changes to it to get support across the house of commons. i don't think this vote really changes very much in terms of that, and that is our concern. theresa may's critics are still saying that she should stand down, insisting she will never win the battle with her own mps over her brexit deal. this isn't an ordinary election and an ordinary electorate. it isa election and an ordinary electorate. it is a very peculiar election, and thatis it is a very peculiar election, and that is why if you look at the historical precedents, i still think the prime minister should resign because she clearly doesn't have the full confidence of parliament. hello. good morning and welcome to

the programme. we are alive until 11 o'clock this thursday morning. within the last hour theresa may has set off from downing street and is on her way to brussels for another eu summit. she will also meet for talks later with the irish prime minister at leo varadkar. she is obviously trying to get concessions on her brexit deal to try and get it over the line. if you feel like we have been here before, like it is groundhog day, despite the events of last night, what do you want to happen? send us an email or the text. it is just over 12 hours since theresa may found out she had the backing of her mps but not all of them, by a long shot. she won the confidence vote by 200 to 117. here isa confidence vote by 200 to 117. here is a report with some flash photography. we now need to get on with the

job... i'm pleased to have received the backing of my colleagues in tonight's ballot. while i'm grateful for that support, a significant number of colleagues did cast a vote against me, and i've listened to what they said. following this ballot, we now need to get on with the job of delivering brexit for the british people and building a better future for this country. a brexit that delivers on the vote of the people gave, that brings back control of our money, our borders and our laws, that protectsjobs, security and the union. that brings the country back together rather than entrenching division. that must start here in westminster, with politicians on all sides coming together and acting in the national interest. is that a vain hope, politicians on all sides coming together and acting in the national interest? let's speak now to conservative mp richard harrington who's a business minister and supported the pm last night. mp sir bill cash was one of the 117 who did not support the pm last night. how long has she got? she said that

she would not be standing in the election in 2022. so how long has she got? until election in 2022. so how long has she got? unti12022. not weeks election in 2022. so how long has she got? until 2022. not weeks or months. how demoralising is it that a third of her party did not vote for her? i am uplifted by the fact that two thirds voted for her. well, more or less. this was not a conventional confidence vote. this was about to be a compromise that she is putting forward on brexit. —— about the compromise. so it wasn't really about the leadership. it was a mini referendum within the conservative mps on the deal. that news was in the market. we all knew from what we read in the papers and from what we read in the papers and from speaking to colleagues like bill and others that a significant number of people were not in favour of the compromise deal which he put forward. she listens to that and he has gone to brussels. she couldn't go to ireland yesterday because of the ridiculous divisive confidence

motion yesterday, which was com pletely motion yesterday, which was completely irrelevant, and now she is back in brussels doing what she is back in brussels doing what she is paid to do which is trying to adjust the arrangements she put forward to take into consideration what people like bill and his collea g u es what people like bill and his colleagues responsibly said, because thatis colleagues responsibly said, because that is what they believe, but i don't agree with them. you add eurosceptic mps failed to her down. that is not the issue in this case. you failed. no, from a practical point of view... we went up from 48 votes to 117 because 48 triggered the confidence motion. but to get to 117. .. the confidence motion. but to get to 117... waita the confidence motion. but to get to 117... wait a minute. let's face the fa ct 117... wait a minute. let's face the fact that in terms of the people who actually voted for her, and i understand why, most of them were on the payroll anyway in one shape or form. that is an issue itself. does it change anything? did you go into sin with no alternative strategy or leader? no. i think sin with no alternative strategy or leader? no. ithink that is

sin with no alternative strategy or leader? no. i think that is not the case. “— leader? no. i think that is not the case. —— in to soon. the reality is that was running away from the issue and the issues have not changed. we will get on to the issues, i promise you. do you accept that you have lost momentum now because she can't be challenged for a year? not in the sense in which we are looking for something which is a substantial change in the withdrawal agreement and there is no chance of that happening. the dup, and let me emphasise this, will not agree to the proposals currently being put around over the backstop, and what that really means is we could lose the dup in terms of our ability to govern this country. that is a key issue. you are smiling at that, richard. i don't know why.|j issue. you are smiling at that, richard. i don't know why. i try my best not to take bill to task but this condescending view that the only reason that people like me voted for the prime minister yesterday is because i am on the payroll! that is the last thing on

my consideration. the reason i voted for her is because i believe in compromise. people like him were far more flexible instead of sticking to this ridiculous dogma, but it is a minority of a minority view. it is not actually. it is. speak to my constituents, who voted to leave, not the ones who voted to remain, i understand that. they want to compromise. i respect you but i have got to say that their withdrawal act is the key question. their withdrawal act was passed by the house of commons and you voted for it and even can plug voted for the third reading. it says we will leave the european communities act 1972 on the european communities act 1972 on the 29th of march 2019. this withdrawal agreement undermines the repeal of that act. there is a real issue of substance and on the constitutional front, which is really important, this isn't an abstraction, it is reality, do we get subjected to laws that are made

by the other member states? by a majority vote in the council of ministers behind closed doors without even a transcript of what is going on? and the northern ireland issue. this is real stuff, real stuff. absolutely. would you describe bill as an extremist like the chancellor did ? describe bill as an extremist like the chancellor did? i can describe him as many things but extremist is not one of the words that i would use. certainly not. democrat. how do you feel about the prime minister describing you as extremists? we are democrats, backing the vote of the british people, and the withdrawal act which richard had his friends voted for, which is getting out of the european communities act 1972.|j would like to reiterate that he has a minority view in the conservative party and in the country. to leave at the end of march, as you correctly said, 2019, but i must tell you, bill, we have sarah

wollaston on next, a member of the people's vote campaign, for another referendum, and what you are doing now, if there is a possibility of us not leaving, it will be because of the behaviour of you and your collea g u es the behaviour of you and your colleagues because you are inflexible and he will not accept compromise. i am sticking to the withdrawal act which was passed by the house of commons and voted for by you, which is to repeal the european communities act 1972.m by you, which is to repeal the european communities act 1972. if i may, gentlemen, this is an illustration, a microcosm of the vicious infighting going on. illustration, a microcosm of the vicious infighting going onm illustration, a microcosm of the vicious infighting going on. it is not vicious, actually. we are seriously disagreeing. and with language like extremist... that isn't our language. and it being reported that jacob rees—mogg, a backbench colleague of yours, very eurosceptic, real critic of mrs may, describing your headquarters as a kill zone, is that true? i have never heard that. maybe it is

impossible to bring these two sides of the conservative party back together and maybe you should split up together and maybe you should split up and form a new party? that is not the question. do you fear a split? no and! the question. do you fear a split? no and i will tell you why. when we get to a confidence motion, if we do, on the whole government, it is just possible that will happen, and if it does, we will all vote to keep the conservative government in power and so will the dup on those terms, lam quite and so will the dup on those terms, i am quite sure. there is absolutely no chance someone i am quite sure. there is absolutely no chance someone like you aligning with labour in a no—confidence motion in a government in order to bring the prime minister down because you hate a deal so much? we had this over the maastricht treaty when i led the rebellion and i wouldn't do it. furthermore the dup will not either. so long as we end up will not either. so long as we end up witha will not either. so long as we end up with a government that actually subscribes to the constitutional arrangements for northern ireland, and that is what is at risk here, there will be no change in our position regarding the government.

do you accept the backstop has got to be changed radically for people like bill to vote for this deal?” a cce pta ble like bill to vote for this deal?” acceptable bill and his others this is an important issue, very true. but life is about compromise. if they stick to this inflexible view... they stick to this inflexible view. . . this they stick to this inflexible view... this is capitulation, richard. please let me finish. i allowed you to finish. if they stick to this lack of flexibility and dogma they will cause a people's vote and people will probably vote to remain and that is not what they want. i respect the result of the last referendum but it is about compromise. that is what the prime and it is doing to protect the jobs and it is doing to protect the jobs and the economy, and let them have control of emigration and the supreme court and institutions that people don't want to be part of. she said that we do not truly leave the european union unless we regain control over our laws and we are not doing that. at this moment in time, we have got a withdrawal act which

was passed and that is clear, we are leaving the european union. unfortunately this withdrawal agreement undermines that because it changes the 1972 act. when should the vote be? before christmas or after? i am the vote be? before christmas or after? iam not the vote be? before christmas or after? i am not sure, victoria. the vote be? before christmas or after? iam not sure, victoria. it is for the prime minister to decide. i would much rather have the right compromise and the right vote and if it is deemed to be before the middle of january, so be it is deemed to be before the middle ofjanuary, so be it. for convenience sake, before christmas would be great, but it may not be possible. this is really detailed stuff. what do you think? it is completely unpredictable because it is in the hands of the government. i would like it to be before christmas but i don't think it will be. you cannot compromise over the law of the land and that is what the european communities act repeal really is and that is what was agreed by richard and others. eddie on email: i don't agree with the vote last night on theresa may's confidence. it was confident and no

confidence, and just like the referendum vote, in or out, so can we have a rerun of the confidence vote ? we have a rerun of the confidence vote? this text: jacob rees—mogg uses the argument that the majority of the back benches are opposed to theresa may but they are a self—selected group who have either resigned government positions or refused to take them. they do not represent the average non—conservative mp. lynn text this: what mrs may is trying to deliver it's not what the people voted for. is she mad? if the conservative party can't negotiate a good exit deal with the eu, what chance have good trade deals on leaving? a desperate negotiating position with a negotiators. that is from someone who does not leave their name. we can talk to sarah wollaston now, the conservative mp, who supported theresa may last night, but believe the prime minister will have to eventually take ideal to the people. can you take us through how that

would happen in practical terms? there are competing versions of what people voted for in the referendum and the reality is that parliament has reached gridlock. there is no version that will pass the commons, and so eventually we either fall out with no deal and no transition in just over 100 days, or we actually ask the prime minister to take the deal back to the people and ask them a simple question, is this what you voted for and what you meant by brexit or would you rather stay with the deal we already have? you are not helping the prime minister either. why don't you give her a break? i have. i voted either. why don't you give her a break? i have. ivoted for either. why don't you give her a break? i have. i voted for her last night. actually the point for me is that i don't think we have informed consent for this version of brexit. this is just the start, and for future framework, 26 page document, is little more than a wish list. if anybody thinks voting for this means that brexit is done and dusted, they

need to look carefully. we have yea rs need to look carefully. we have years ahead of us of this kind of wrangling over brexit with no leverage, within the negotiations. so people like me that look at this as chair of the health and social ca re as chair of the health and social care committee in parliament, i see no version of brexit that does anything but harm to our nhs, public health, research. you wanted local people's vote with the hope that people's vote with the hope that people would vote to remain? as a clinician i know that people can consent to things that are risky because they feel the benefits outweigh the risks. now we know what brexit looks like, this is the deal, wa rts brexit looks like, this is the deal, warts and all, the right thing to do in my view, more than two years from the referendum, now we know what brexit looks like, take it to the people. parliament frankly is not going to vote for it. ask the people. is this what you wanted? and if the people vote for that, i will accept that 100% because it would be informed, valid consent in my view.

you know that mrs may had said they will not be a second referendum when she is prime minister. she has also said they would not be a general election in the past. we either go for a referendum on the actual brexit deal or we crashed out with no deal. there are more ways than that, sarah wollaston. it would have to pass parliament and parliament is in gridlock and that is the reality. it is in gridlock now. what if mrs may reached across the house to bring on board some labour mps?” wish she had done that in the first place. what if she said, ok, we will go for a customs union? she may decide to put forward the so—called norway plus model, but those who voted against her last night would be even more opposed to a norway style plus a customs union brexit. what about labour mps?” style plus a customs union brexit. what about labour mps? i don't think any version of brexit would pass the comments. this is just any version of brexit would pass the comments. this isjust me expressing what i think is the reality of the situation, that we have reached

gridlock. do you think it is a government's duty now to make sure this country is absolutely prepared for leaving on the 29th of march, deal or no deal? to be quite honest, we are in no way prepared for a chaotic exit injust we are in no way prepared for a chaotic exit in just over 100 days. so the preparations really do have to step up? even if they do step up, we will see serious unintended consequences that will hit peoples lives. our committee has been looking at the consequences for the supply of medicines and medical devices. there will be serious harm that will affect people's lives and that will affect people's lives and thatis that will affect people's lives and that is what we are talking about here. i don't think any responsible government could let us crash out with no deal. but if there were enough preparations? they won't be in time. we are simply nowhere near that. we will have to extend article 50 whatever in my view. 0k, we will see what happens. mrs may has fired the starting gun in the race to succeed her. if someone like boris

johnson or dominic rab or david davis were to end up as leader of the conservative party, what would that do for somebody like you?“ the conservative party moved off to the conservative party moved off to the right, that is not where i am. i would have to very seriously think about whether i could continue. the point is that last night, they had their opportunity last night, and what we saw last night was the conservative party deciding against forming a circular firing conservative party deciding against forming a circularfiring squad, but also delivering a very clear message to the hard brexiteers that there is no majority in parliament for their version of brexit or their right wing style. and there is no majority in parliament for a second referendum, which is what you want. but i think when you reach gridlock you have to macro alternatives, either over the cliff and ask the people. i think people would prefer to be asked rather than going over the cliff. sarah wollaston, thank you. many messages, as you can imagine. wherever you are in the

country, let us know your reaction to the events of the last 24 hours. victoria on twitter: the queen to step there now and to solve the shambles of a government. she has no political experience than the rest of them combined and you put the country before herself. ed said: the skunk —— this can't continue. parliament needs to rethink urgently or lose all democratic credibility. masked enigma: they had lost power and they can't replace the leader. there is a clear majority in parliament not to have no deal. their ability to blackmail has been diminished and their views. it can only be a soft brexit or remain now. and this text: she is a lame—duck prime minister and the only one she can trust other eu leaders but she treats them with the same contempt and arrogant deceit as everyone

else. we are seeing now at last stand up to the european research group, that group a backbench conservative mps like bill cash and jacob rees—mogg, who don't like her brexit deal at all, or will she remain wishy—washy, weak and wobbly? amid the drama of last night's vote, something that happened which might have passed you by what the prime minister reinstating the whip for two conservative mps who had been suspended from the party. 0ne two conservative mps who had been suspended from the party. one was andrew griffiths, who resigned as a business minister in the summer, after text messages, lewd text m essa 9 es after text messages, lewd text m essa g es of after text messages, lewd text messages of a sexual nature which is sent to two women from his constituency. they leaked. the other was the dover mp charlie elphicke was the dover mp charlie elphicke was suspended in november last year and has since been interviewed under caution by police for alleged sexual offences. charlie elphicke has denied wrongdoing and said yesterday that he remains as confident as ever of clearing his name. 0ne mp who was very angry about the fact that the two suspended mps had the whip restored so they could vote in that

no—confidence vote last night was a labourmp no—confidence vote last night was a labour mp jess phillips and no—confidence vote last night was a labour mpjess phillips and she is how. —— here now. why where you cross ? how. —— here now. why where you cross? when the #metoo movement and the westminster scandal started we we re the westminster scandal started we were told by people like theresa may and andrea leadsom that power and patronage would no longer play a role in this and it didn't matter which political party you were from. if you had admitted wrongdoing, we had a proper process to deal with it, and theresa may yesterday basically proved that she lied when she said those things to the women staff in that building, the women who might have been abused by mps, lords, people working in parliament. she lied because when it came to it, all that mattered what she wanted their vote and she stopped the process of their suspensions and she

let them back in because she wanted power. does it matter that a p pa re ntly power. does it matter that apparently the two man cancelled each other out? andrew griffiths supported the prime minister and it is reported that charlie elphicke did not support her last night.” don't care for the psychodrama of the tory party and whether they cancelled each other out. what i ca re cancelled each other out. what i care about is that process, promises and frankly principles were com pletely and frankly principles were completely roughshod over. what is it going to say to women who are going to come forward and say that they have been treated badly? they have been sexually assaulted, they have been sexually assaulted, they have been sexually harassed. what that said, what happened yesterday, said to them that we don't care. the boss both of the country and of the conservative party basically mandated groping mps yesterday.” conservative party basically mandated groping mps yesterday. i am utterly disgusted. they are allegations and investigations are ongoing. is it fair to say she mandated groping mps? she basically stopped a process from going on in order to curry favour. that is what happened yesterday. how would you describe that? it is absolutely

despicable. we were promised that things would be different. the #metoo movement means nothing when the most powerful person in our country basically says oh well, never mind. can i ask you about labour's position? there is some frustration among labour supporters that the labour front bench is not capitalising, it is perceived, on this moment of crisis for political rivals because they haven't launched this no—confidence motion in the government. i think as time ticks on it gets a bit unusual that the labour party hasn't launched a no—confidence motion. we certainly have no confidence in the prime minister. it would be difficult to have any confidence in her at the moment. you know what the argument is. at this point you would not win so what is the point? i can see it from both sides. this is a

politician's answer! i can see it from both sides. nobody wants gestural politics in the country and what happens in the conservative party yesterday tells us that the country party yesterday tells us that the cou ntry ta kes party yesterday tells us that the country takes a dim view of gameplaying. but for me the labour party has a policy which was agreed at its party conference that the first thing that we should try and do is to try and trigger a general election and then we would support a vote going back to people on the deal and remain. and that is why some of your supporters want you to lodge that, which you would lose, and that would get that out of the way and labour could go straight to a second referendum backing it.“ would be dishonest of me to say anything other than that. yes, that is what a lot of labour supporters wa nt is what a lot of labour supporters want but the trouble is that we can't be seen as playing too many westminster games. at the moment there is a new world order. they are saying they wouldn't back a no confidence at the moment but who knows what will happen next week?“

mrs may reached out to people like yourself and others in the labour party to make a concession, and for the sake of argument let's say she would go for a customs union, which labour once, can you imagine voting for her deal? she totally let me down with her alleged feminism yesterday by letting those two men do whatever they wanted. i might have considered talking to theresa may. she chipped away slowly but surely at the shred of respect i had left for her but she has missed the boat very badly. a year ago she should have been talking to people like me. she should have been talking to trades unions, people who vote labour, trying to build a consensus during the negotiations, to see what she could have got

through. this is all too little and too late. she said she was listening last night. do you believe her? no! she doesn't listen at all. she certainly isn't listening to me. she is doing nothing to reach across the aisle to people like me who represent leave seats. she has really missed the boat. thank you for talking to us, the mpjess phillips. in the last via minutes the president of the european council has tweeted this: i will meet pm theresa may for last—minute talks. norman is at downing street. that will be encouraging for her, will it? i missed the bit before that. what will be encouraging? donald tusk will be meeting theresa may for last—minute talks, quote, before the summit gets under way. yes and no. mrs may did meet donald tusk just the other day, yes and no. mrs may did meet donald tuskjust the other day, after which he described it as a long and frank meeting. i take that to mean a bit

ofa meeting. i take that to mean a bit of a stand—off. i have no doubt that eu leaders will try and find some formulation of words that can ease life for mrs may. but she needs so much more than that. she needs a legally binding concessions on our old friend the northern ireland backstop. without that it is very ha rd to backstop. without that it is very hard to see how you get the 117 tory mps who voted against mrs may last night back on board. so donald tusk and the others, they may give some warm words. there may be some assurances and clarifications, but u nless assurances and clarifications, but unless it is legally binding or within the withdrawal agreement, it will not cut any ice with the brexiteers. everything we have heard from the eu leaders so far has been pretty much a firm no to reopening their withdrawal agreement. bearing in mind that mrs may had already been to see chancellor merkel when she got out of the car, and chancellor merkel said we would like to help you but forget it. we will not be reopening their withdrawal agreement and that message was echoed wherever mrs may went on the

continent. it is hard to see how mrs may will get something substantial, which means the problem of what will she do when she brings the deal back to parliament, how will she get a meaningful vote through parliament, remains completely unresolved with no easy way through this and impasse. 0ne attitude among tory mps is that mrs may is going to have to appeal to the opposition party to get them on board because clearly if you have 117 of your own party who will not help you out, you have got to find help elsewhere. their suggestion is that mrs may now needs to adopt a more inclusive approach. the problem with that is two fold. mrs may has not shown much inclination, appetite or ability to reach out to the other parties. and

two, mr corbyn, john mcdonnell, the labour front bench, they are not in the market to help out and they think they have got mrs may on the ropes so why would they come riding over the hill to rescue the prime minister? the chances of any time soon minister? the chances of any time soon getting a cross—party consensus to bypass the brexiteers, that looks dodgy. you are then forced back basically into our old friend the fear factor. can you so terrify mps with the prospect of no deal that at the end of the day they buckle? that is another option but it is a high—risk option, and given the way eve ryo ne high—risk option, and given the way everyone is so entrenched, it is not even clear that it would work. the big problem of how to break the deadlock over the deal still remains. enough from me. deadlock over the deal still remains. enoughfrom me. let's deadlock over the deal still remains. enough from me. let's get a news summary remains. enough from me. let's get a news summary with annita mcveigh. the prime minister is travelling to brussels this morning, after winning a vote of confidence in her leadership. theresa may is hoping eu leaders will give her legally binding promises about the irish backstop in her brexit deal. ahead of the formal summit, mrs may will meet with the irish prime minister,

leo varadkar, and european council president donald tusk for what he has called last—minute talks. back home — leading brexiteers say the prime minister should still resign, as a third of her mps voted against her leadership. but cabinet colleagues say the issue is now settled. she has got the support of the party behind her and i wish her every success today in making sure she delivers on the question some of my colleagues have had about the backstop. thank you. french police have released an image of the gunman suspected to have carried out the attack on a christmas market in strasbourg. cherif chekatt is described as dangerous, and not to be approached. the search for him has been extended to germany. two people were killed in the attack on tuesday night. hundreds of soldiers are being deployed at christmas markets across france in response to the incident. at least nine people have been killed, and more than 40 injured in a train crash in turkey. the high—speed service collided with a locomotive used to carry out track inspections, and came off the tracks, at a station in the capital ankara.

more than 40 people are said to have been injured. canada's government says it's trying to locate a second canadian citizen who's said to have been detained in china. chinese state media reported that michael spavor was being investigated on suspicion of endangering national security. beijing had threatened reprisals over the arrest of a senior executive at the telecoms firm huawei. ambulances in the uk have been vandalised more than 200 times in the past three years, according to a bbc investigation. fireworks, knives and bricks have been used in attacks that have caused thousands of pounds worth of damage. 0ne trade union says penalties for those responsible should be similar to those given to people who assault ambulance staff. new research claims the calorie content of meals in uk restaurants is "excessive" — and sit—down restaurants are unhealthier than fast—food chains.

health experts say meals should not exceed 600 calories. but researchers from the university of liverpool who analysed thousands of meals, found an average calorie count of 1,033 in restaurants, and 751 in fast—food chains. they said theirfindings were a cause for concern. the bbc has been criticised for failing to deliver value for money in its re—development of the set for eastenders. the national audit office says the project — at elstree in hertfordshire — is likely to cost £27 million more than expected and finish two—and—a—half years late. the bbc says it has faced challenges beyond its control and it was keeping the work under close scrutiny. that's it from me — back to victoria at westminster. its absolutely freezing here. can

you hear me? is my microphone up? hurray! we've switched on the microphone. i wasjust hurray! we've switched on the microphone. i was just telling you how cold it was. not that we expect any sympathy whatsoever here at westminster. we are here until 11am, it's just after 10am. andrew on twitter says mrs may won a large majority last night than in the leadership contest. jacob rees—mogg should resign. diane on e—mail says i'm glad she won the fight, it's about time her party got behind her, she's doing a good job. labour will only want a general election and will never agree to any deal. it's a disgrace. another viewer says, what a mess we are in as a country. parliament go off next week for their christmas break with nothing resolved. we've had that vote, the people have spoken, put your foot down mrs may and tell them they won't get their billions if we don't

get what we want. let's speak to some conservative party members who are also standing here freezing at westminster. you voted to remain, it seems like such a long time ago now. she definitely supports theresa may. you want to leave the eu even if it means leaving without a deal. you initially wanted to stay in the eu and now wants to leave and conservative association chairman of the cities of london and westminster, hello. let's cuddle together because it's so cold! laughter what is it like as a conservative supporter looking on at your conservative mps tearing themselves apart again over europe? i'm furious with them. most rank—and—file conservatives are totally loyal to theresa may and we are completely fed up with the way mps are behaving. what's your message to them? they've done the

damage, so now that debate is over i think they should rally solidly behind theresa may. and fight for her deal with or without extra concessions? the brexit deal is fairly appalling, i think everyone is unhappy about it and she's unhappy about it. hopefully she might be able to get things improved. 0k. let's talk to you. hello. what's your message to conservative mps? i think we had a very challenging few days and we must put it behind us now. we really do need to get behind theresa may. what does that mean in practical terms? we need to focus on making sure the brexit deal happens, is fated through comic get the best deal we can and i think it's really noble given the crazy few hours theresa may has had that she is in brussels asking for concessions today. i trust her to be the best for us. mps who hate that deal, he

believe it is not the brexit the people voted for, who believe it's so people voted for, who believe it's so much of a compromise that we will end up being rule takers and having no say over those rules, you say just wait for it anyway?” no say over those rules, you say just wait for it anyway? i say, when we got a brexit referendum result which is so split, we have to find something in the best majority interest. it's very difficult to get anything everyone is going to agree on, but this seems a very good compromise. if it's the best she can get, and! compromise. if it's the best she can get, and i hope she might get some twea ks get, and i hope she might get some tweaks delivered today and tomorrow, then on monday when she makes the statement to parliament i trust it will be her best effort. what do you reckon? i reckon that on the point that mps have to unite behind theresa may, i think they have tea because she's our only leader for at least the next year. that's already not happening. some conservative mps have said she still needs to resign.

yes, there is an argument for that but in practical terms i don't think she will. i think we need to get behind her, we need to see what she comes up behind her, we need to see what she comes up with in brussels and then if necessary vote down the deal and hopefully leave with no deal. i think for now we need to support her trying to get some concessions from brussels. why do you want to leave with no deal? ideally i wouldn't, i would want to leave with a super canada arrangement like david davis and dominic rab were suggesting. but i think if it's necessary, we need to leave with no deal because the promises people voted on, and this is from both the leave and remain campaigns, i'm afraid this deal doesn't deliver on all of the promises. it has to be a compromise. you aren't going to get every single thing he wanted. we aren't going to get every single thing with the deal but the eu promised us last year that they would be open to a super

canada arrangement. if we agreed with the eu back then to keep pushing on things related to the customs union and i think we would have got more of a deal in the national interest. do you feel theresa may's authority is draining from her? we had a vote last night and iain duncan smith at the last election said the family is damaged and we have to come together. it's the same here. i can only speak for myself but i think we need to unite for theresa may against the opposition, jeremy corbyn, liberal democrats and the other parties. that is the ultimate revenge of parliament to go against our party. it's a heartfelt plea for your mps to unite. you know you are living in fa ntasy to unite. you know you are living in fantasy land when you appeal for that. i don't think it's fantasyland because i think some of our mps are obviously going to go against our

prime minister. they won't fight with her but i feel like enough mps could back this deal, could back a new version of this deal and could get this through parliament and i pray that happens. you've now heard from four members of the party picked at random and all four of us think it's time that conservative mps behave themselves better and united behind theresa may. i hope they listen. all of us are fed up with the people who voted against her. the conservative party has always been a broad church. we've always been a broad church. we've always not may be agreed on everything. but this is the time to unite. i think theresa may yesterday made it clear we must as a party come together in the national interest. i think she will actually come out and go out to other opposition people too. clearly the parliamentary arithmetic proves we need other people's backing. reach

out to labour, you mean? try to all mps. would be back her doing that?” would because we need a deal in the national interest. i supported the plotters yesterday but now they've lost i think we should unite behind her because there is a greater threat which is a corbyn government over anything related to brexit. we need to stay united to defeat corbyn evenif need to stay united to defeat corbyn even if theresa may isn't the ideal leader. would you pack some quite major changes if she was able to get this through to her deal which meant labour mps could come on board and fight for it and get it over the line? yes. the idea of a customs union is out of the books because remaining ina union is out of the books because remaining in a customs union, you know, creating a new customs union asjeremy corbyn know, creating a new customs union as jeremy corbyn once, isn't possible. changes that could entrench workers' rights further, even entrench workers' rights further, evenif entrench workers' rights further, even if it is in writing, i think is

a reassurance and a change. i think the eu are being tough at the moment but they have admiration for theresa may and you can see that. in salzburg they treated her awfully andl salzburg they treated her awfully and i think they've learned their lesson. we have to make sure labour mps, conservative mps backed the deal and get it through parliament. if conservative mps don't unite behind mrs may and we know that some won't, i mean, theyjust won't. who is the person that could bring the two sides, the two halves of the party back together? 0r two sides, the two halves of the party back together? or is thatjust impossible? it might be difficult but it would be unwise for me to say who i would like to take over. i give her all my support and i don't think it would help for me to say who i would like to replace her. do you see the party splitting? try the party is clearly split. breaking in

two ? party is clearly split. breaking in two? i don't think so but it's clearly split. the rank and file people say we want to see them unite. i've been to conservative parties every evening this week and everybody is serious at the way the conservative mps are behaving. funky full standing in the cold with us. i really appreciate it —— thank you for standing really appreciate it —— thank you forstanding in really appreciate it —— thank you for standing in the cold. it's not too early to say happy christmas, is it? happy christmas! our too early to say happy christmas, is it? happy christmas! 0ur reporter was in hastings last night, just as the fight was announced, the results of the vote was announced. it's a marginal constituency, amber rudd is the mp for the area. she has got a majority of just over 340. theresa may did win the confidence of her party, the backing of her party, but with many of her colleagues choosing to vote against. so we are joined by some local residents and voters,

most of whom are conservative party supporters. so let's get some reaction. just to my right, what do you make of last night's vote? do you think theresa may is now in a stronger position than she was? i think so, yes, definitely. i think the europeans are always wanting to have... they want to know where they are. and we know where they are, because may has said she's going to resign. she's got the support of her conservative party. the labour leader hasn't asked for a vote of no—confidence, which would worry them. if they don't give some concessions at the next meeting of the parliament, maybe jeremy corbyn will come up with a vote of no—confidence. so that is what really frightens the europeans more than anything else. they need somebody like may in power at the moment, so that they can, you know, negotiate their position. ok, so theresa may's position is potentially strengthened in brussels, then. that's interesting. let's move along down the line. so you think she's here to stay now, at least for the foreseeable future? yeah, well, now she's actually got the vote to stay, as such,

i believe now it's time just to kind of get on with it now. and, you know, maybe now that she — as she said at her party, she's listened to the criticism, and hopefully that'll probably make her a bit of a stronger person now, so... 0k. and a lot of people are voting against theresa may last night. do you think there's a lot of frustration with her potentially inside the conservative party? there probably was a great deal of frustration, but to be truthful after that vote i think that a lot of people will actually be more confident with her at the moment, and as the other gentleman said i do believe the eu will give us a little bit more from that vote. and billie, i believe you're just 16. what you make of everything that's on? what you make of it all? i think she's done well, to be honest. with all that stress she's been through, something so big, and now everyone's trying to get her out, but she's going through it really

well, to be honest. ok, so sort of provisionally of theresa may. you think she's doing well even though she's been given a tough time? yeah. 0k, great. hello, sir. i think you work at the estate agentjust down the road? round the corner, yes. is that right? and what's your reaction to the vote yesterday? your conservative party voter. do you think that this has solidified theresa may's position, or perhaps we can her because quite a lot of colleagues did vote against her? i think that it's given her a sound basis now so that she can move forward with her plans, because it was like a bit of a distraction for her, when she clearlyjust wants to get on with the job in hand of getting us the best deal and moving up of europe. now she can have a sound asus to move forward and work hard, as she has been doing recently, and move forward and get a positive result for us. ok, so after last night's vote it looks like there is qualified support here amongst these voters in hastings. if sarah wollaston is talking sense

this morning. it doesn't have to end in chaos. another viewer says, i live in northern ireland and we voted to remain for financial reasons after seeing the intransigence and dictatorial position of the eu and ireland in particular we would vote leave in a second referendum. even if it meant no deal. another viewer says, i voted to leave the eu, if this is the best theresa may can do i would rather stay in the eu. another viewer says, i voted rather stay in the eu. another viewer says, ivoted remain rather stay in the eu. another viewer says, i voted remain and if there was another vote i would vote leave. this shows we have no sovereignty over our country. but the government and opposition are a joke. i will read some more messages ina joke. i will read some more messages in a moment. let's speak now to the conservative mp philip davies — who voted against the prime minister

last night but now thinks she won fair and square. do you accept the result? yes absolutely. she's entitled to our support. which means he will vote for her brexit deal? that's two different things. i will stick to the promises i made to my vote is the promises i made to my vote is the general election, that we will leave the customs union and the single market. i won't vote for her deal as it is currently formed but i accept she should remain as leader of the conservative party. what if she gets some concessions on the northern irish backstop, the controversial measure that may or may not come into play if we haven't got a free trade deal and if the transition period isn't extended? be backstop has to be time—limited or not exist at all. i don't see any need for it but it has to be in the legally binding treaty. it's got to

be part of the legally binding treaty. you know that isn't possible. it have to be legally binding, it can't not be. the second thing is the money, we are handing over 39 billion for nothing in return, not even be a guarantee of a free trade deal when i would prefer that money to be spent on schools, the police and other cash—strapped parts of our public services. they are the big things in the deal that are the big things in the deal that are currently are the big things in the deal that a re currently u na cce pta ble are the big things in the deal that are currently unacceptable to me. right. you're making it so hard for her she might be. with and degree for example to stay in a customs union to get her deal the line. she need to keep her promises she made to the general public at the election. we've got to keep those promises which means not being in the customs union, not being in the single market, taking back control of our laws, borders and trade policy. on the subject of a time limit, reported in the times today that eu leaders might be prepared to offer that on the backstop to help

get her deal past, words along the lines of this would only be in place for a short period and only while trade talks continued. yes, it would be non—binding, but why would that not be enough for you? because it's got to be legally binding. 0nce not be enough for you? because it's got to be legally binding. once we signed it, it's a legally binding international treaty and once we signed up to it that's it and they could keep us trapped forever. the point of the referendum was taking back control. this would be giving up back control. this would be giving up control of our future policy on customs and trade to the eu. that's com pletely customs and trade to the eu. that's completely unacceptable. how long has she got as prime minister? she said last night she wouldn't fight the next election as leader. when might that be? i suspect in 2022 so i suspect she will stand down at some point before then. who can predict what's going to happen these days? absolutely nobody. who would

you like to succeed her? there may be four years ahead, so i don't want to get into that at this point. jockeying position is going on now, the race to succeed has begun.” don't know who the candidates may or may not be in three years so i will decide who i will support when the time comes quite frankly. philip davies, conservative mp who did not support the prime minister last night. but he accepts the outcome. although it's going to make no difference to whether he fights for the brexit withdrawal deal unless there are some major changes. in a moment we will get some information from the labour party about their strategy. with labour mp chi 0nwurah who is a shadow minister for industrial strategy and newcastle mp. when are you going to launch a

no—confidence motion in the government? we want to hold the government? we want to hold the government to account. this is a total shambles. we need to make sure it has maximum impact. we need to make sure that we have a reasonable chance of success. we've seen that the vote yesterday make no difference to the working lives of people in my constituency or to the brexit negotiations. it's been a distraction to the reality of trying to get a deal that works for people. as the opposition we are going to respond to the situation but is ongoing and make sure that if and when we launch the vote of no confidence it has a maximum impact, that it has a chance of being successful. so it's not a guarantee? right now nothing is guaranteed in politics. it is our intention to hold the government to account and particularly to hold theresa may to

account. just because she ran away from a vote she couldn't win, its not up to us to give her a fake she can't lose. we need to make sure the vote of no confidence has maximum impactand vote of no confidence has maximum impact and makes a real difference in the negotiations. it's not about the gesture. what do you say to your members, some of whom want you to launch that no confidence vote, because that gets it out of the way and you can pivot as the terminology goes, you can go full steam ahead for backing a second referendum. we had 600,000 members. our nation at conference, we have had a plan that we are sticking to, which is that we wa nt we are sticking to, which is that we want a general election because that is what will make a real change to peoples lives. we need to make sure we go about that in a way that has a chance of success. if we can't get a general election then absolutely nothing is off the table. i think

that there is a strong argument for a people's fight but we want a general election first and foremost. right now, would you be... sorry, i can't think of the word... would you be amenable if theresa may made some concessions in order to get your fights for her deal? this government isa car fights for her deal? this government is a car wreck, is a shambles. she can't come back with a deal that works. her own backbenchers won't tolerate a deal that has a permanent customs union. that's the only thing which will avoid a hard border in ireland. and also give us... she actually can't get a deal which meets her own fractured and divided party. if she gets a deal which meets our six tests, we have always

said we will be going for that but she can't do that because her party is such a car crash of division but they can't agree on something which is workable. whereas we have said we wa nt is workable. whereas we have said we want a permanent customs union and we wa nt want a permanent customs union and we want to maintain workers' rights and environmental protections so we aren't competing with the eu in some kind of low—wage labour protection economy. whatever she comes back with, what if it's weighted down and the country is then on the path towards —— what if it is voted down and the country is them on a path towards... no deal is catastrophic for our economy. but if you vote it down then that is what will happen. it doesn't work for the economy, it's either her deal or no deal. no. we have a parliament. parliamentary sovereignty is what this is about

and parliament needs to have a meaningful vote which means being able to change the deal. she shouldn't be kicking the can down the road putting that off, that's the road putting that off, that's the basic requirement that the country needs. thank you. chi 0nwurah, the shadow minister for industrial strategy. theresa may is on her way to brussels where european leaders are gathering for the european council summit. she's hoping to get some legally binding promises on the irish backstop. let's get more from our correspondent in brussels, adam fleming. what chance of her getting anything? a really good chance. we know that because the document the other eu 27 will consider tonight is floating around brussels and we've seen it.

it is one and a bit pages long, six paragraphs and still in draft form. you can tell that because it's got square brackets around lots of it which is the technical way the diplomats say this is still to be agreed. there are three key things in it. firstly, it says the withdrawal agreement is non—negotiable. the text of the treaty which contains the infamous backstop isn't going to change. but thenit backstop isn't going to change. but then it looks like eu leaders are going to make a pledge to continue using their best endeavours, legal words for trying really hard, to com plete words for trying really hard, to complete a trade deal which means the backstop can be swept away even if it has come into force. so you would have brexit day, then the transition period where they would be negotiations for a trade deal. if that didn't work it would get into a backstop at the negotiations would continue with the idea of the backstop is pulled out and replaced by the future relationship. that's making explicit something that was

only implied in the brexit documents so only implied in the brexit documents so far. i think the uk will see that asa win. so far. i think the uk will see that as a win. thirdly, the eu is saying let's spend the next couple of weeks working on what other documents we can come up working on what other documents we can come up with that could provide even more reassurance that we mean what we say when we say the backstop is temporary. that's how they are trying to reassure mps. ok. we've spoken to someone this morning, u nless spoken to someone this morning, unless it's legally binding, some have already told us they will not be reassured. so, if eu leaders sign up be reassured. so, if eu leaders sign up to this document, it will be politically binding. all 27 will have sat round a table, we will have seen have sat round a table, we will have seen them, they will publish this document and it will be in black and white. it will be politically binding which means it is a statement of intent. what they will then spend the next couple of weeks doing is looking at all of the options they've got to deliver something that is legally binding. that's what theresa may has said she

wa nts. that's what theresa may has said she wants. we'll get the political bit tonight and potentially a legal bit injanuary tonight and potentially a legal bit in january next year. the tonight and potentially a legal bit injanuary next year. the problem is, the eu isn't prepared to write anything that's legal that contradicts the withdrawal agreements. they say that is the prime legal text. it sounds a bit complicated and tricksy but it will come down to two things. how far can they go to convince mps and are the mps convinced ? they go to convince mps and are the mps convinced? thank you. let's speak to conservative supporters who have used their money to either back the prime minister or try to stop her eu withdrawal deal. with me is charlie mullins, who runs a plumbing business and wanted theresa may to go, and rami ranger, chairman of an export firm and a big financial backer of theresa may. how big in terms of financial backing? supporting the conservative party is cheaper in the long run because the other lot will cost me more in high taxes and how much have

you put into the party? about £1 million. that is chicken feed if you compare the consequences of a labour government to the economy and to my business. what about yourselves in terms of wanting to remain, how much have you put into bat? about £100,000. that is well spent. the confidence isn't there anymore, we need a people's fight. undoubtedly she is not good enough to leave the party therefore she can't be good enough to do brexit. you say it's money well spent, we are nowhere near a second referendum.” money well spent, we are nowhere near a second referendum. i think we are very close. except she's safe for a year. i don't think she's going to stay. we've got to put it to the people. people have got to be allowed the fight. the best deal we've got is the deal we've already got. all we need to do is withdraw

article 50 and stick to the deal we've got. she's had two one half years to get the deal and look where we are. what do you say to the millions of people who voted to leave two and a half years ago? i say let's do a people's there because of circumstances have changed. if she isn't good enough to be party leader, how can she be good enough to ta ke leader, how can she be good enough to take on the biggest change that we have made in 50 years? she has got no respect, no power at all now. do you respect? very much though. i think she has worked incredibly hard. all these guys who were united for the cause of undermining their own leader, they do not realise the repercussion of their actions. they will face that at the next general election. no party wins if a party is not united. with these lacklustre guys. they have undermined their

prime minister. how can you send a weak prime minister to get a deal which is good for everybody? and most importantly, in a democracy, the prime minister has got to care for the aspirations of those 48% who wanted to remain. we no longer have an empire. we have got to do deals. we have got to cooperate with other countries in order for our economy to survive. we can't be dictating out to survive. we can't be dictating our turns to the rest of the european community. we are drinking from different teapots on this one. i respect what he says and he is a great businessman that we have got a leader that can't lead. if you remembera leader that can't lead. if you remember a movie called el cid, they had a dead leader that they put on a horse that we have a leader who is live and kicking. i don't understand who the other leaders? who has the guts to be premised of this country?

nobody. they are just ganging up on a lady who is working really hard and trying to divide the country and stop us getting a deal which is good for the economy and good for britain. we will attract investment from countries like japan because we have access to the european market. that is what we are lacking at the moment, investment in the stocks and people have lost confidence. she has said she is not good enough to lead us said she is not good enough to lead us into the next election so why is she good enough to deal with brexit? we have a prime minister now... are weakened prime minister. we made her week. these lacklustre guys who do not understand the consequences of their actions. at the next election, their actions. at the next election, their marginal seats, they are going to definitely lose because of the actions of these people. we will lose because we have a leader who can't lead. stevie on text says that brexit is a shambles. now that we know, we will personally be worse off when we leave so let us have a

second referendum to see what the people now think. this text says: hard brexit or riots. this text says theresa may is doing a brilliantjob and it is time people accepted the results of the referendum and stopped selling the seeds of economic crisis. caroline taylor no taxation without representation. if you run a second referendum without ano you run a second referendum without a no deal option you fail to represent a proportion of the population. i would represent a proportion of the population. iwould prefer represent a proportion of the population. i would prefer my children grew up in tough times with fewer material possessions and better understanding the value of money but with the democratic right to choose and change the person at the top. never an option in the current eu institutions. how do you respond to that? it is not all about the money? everybody is thinking of the money? everybody is thinking of the future but there won't be no future the way it is going on. but this woman caroline has weighed up the risks and she actually wants to go the risks and she actually wants to 9° by the risks and she actually wants to go by something that gives us more

democracy, even if it means circuits being poorer. that is easy for her to say that she is probably not on the poverty line. millions of people in poverty don't want that. it is all very well saying that if you have got a few quid. we don't know if she has. nobody with no money wa nts to if she has. nobody with no money wants to be worse off. they all want to be better off. i am very sorry that we do not realise the consequences of hard brexit. if you have a second referendum, i can guarantee you we will have an overwhelming yes vote. really? call it on then. but it is not democracy because we have already had a referendum and we have got to deliver on that and the prime ministers doing a very difficult job to please everybody. you are not going to please everybody. 0f course. she has had to macro votes. we voted her in for the election and now we have given her a second chance. why can't she change her mind? you have no understanding of

what could happen in northern ireland and scotland could go for independence. we may destroy the union of this country if we are not careful. you say we bet it is theresa may. no, the people who are focused on brexit, brexit, brexit. they don't realise the country has got to remain united. we have got to ta ke got to remain united. we have got to take into consideration the aspiration of 48%. what kind of democracy is this, ignoring half of your family? 42 votes away from losing herjob and here we are. win isa losing herjob and here we are. win is a win is a win. it is very uncomfortable for her. do you think the prime minister will change the circumstances? of course not. the prime minister is trying to resolve the situation. two and a half years. she has got to deal with 27 opponents all fighting their own corner. 0ne

opponents all fighting their own corner. one day they will be fighting britain. will her deal get through parliament? that is beside the point. but at least we should give hera the point. but at least we should give her a fighting chance and support her and empower her so she can go as a strong leader and fight our corner. no deal, no theresa may, no brexit. send more messages and then we may need to talk to you further because we don't know where the next guests are! so i hope you have got something left to say! leanne on email: i almost wish for a general election. thenjeremy corbyn will be forced off the fence and his party will get real. half his party wa nt to party will get real. half his party want to get rid of him and half the government. no wonder they are too scared to table a vote of no confidence in the government. sebastian says: how ironic they tabled this vote on leadership despite there being 12 macro years ago, following that logic another referendum on brexit would be legitimate. i stopped voting for the

tory party because of theresa may when she was home secretary but the party needs to get the job done. the thought of her having power and anything to do with the brexit process is terrifying. and this one: theresa may should resign now because she has no mandate to remain as tory party leader. she is wasting money travelling to and back to brussels. get back to the meaningful vote. if she thinks she can court the labour party, she is deluded. thank you, gentlemen and happy christmas and thank you for coming on. while we wait for our next guest, let's take a look at how the country got here. have a look at this. the result of the ballot held this evening is that the parliamentary party does have confidence. cheering the magic number has been reached.

there will be the first phase in a leadership challenge tonight.” there will be the first phase in a leadership challenge tonight. i will contest that vote with everything i have got. the change of leadership in the conservative party now will put our country's future at risk and create uncertainty when we can least afford it. the prime minister sweeping down to parliament for one of the most important days of her career. she has nine hours from now to persuade her colleagues that she is the person to lead the country and has earned the right to keep her job. mr speaker, today i will have meetings, possibly many meetings, with ministerial colleagues and others! whatever happens with her conservative leadership vote today,

it is utterly irrelevant to the lives of people across our country. i have reached the conclusion that because the prime minister is unwilling to move away from a deal which i don't think delivers brexit andl which i don't think delivers brexit and i cannot support, that i felt it was time for a new leader. when we leave here in the evenings, we are stepping over sleeping bodies in westminster tube station. there are so westminster tube station. there are so many pressing issues for this government to tackle but all our energy is being sucked up with brexit and now an internal row that does nothing to improve the lives of people in our country. i'm pleased to have received the backing of my colleagues in tonight's ballot. while i'm grateful for that support, a significant number of colleagues did cast a vote against me, and i've listened to what they said. following this ballot, we now need to get on with the job of delivering brexit for the british people and building a better future for this country. the conservative party has

challenged its leaders in the past from within. let's talk now to people who have witnessed previous tumultuous times. baroness altmann, who wants us to remain in the eu, former cabinet minister david mellor, who supports brexit and the mp michael fabrica nt who's tweeted this morning that the tories must now unify and avoid the self—destructiveness of the major years. remind the young viewers how terrible that period was. it was terrible that period was. it was terrible but this is worse. there was never the over there between two

large groups in the conservative party. this morning we had the privilege of hearing a former conservative leader saying they would vote against the current leader even though the current leader even though the current leader had survived. i think the fa ct leader had survived. i think the fact they cannot contain their detestation for each other, it is a fundamental blow to what was always said. loyalty was the conservative pa rty‘s said. loyalty was the conservative party's secret weapon, well, it is a very secret weapon now. how do you react to the chancellor describing some of his colleagues as extremists? it proves my point. the prime minister we have to blame for this article does not theresa may but david cameron, letting unleashing these demons. europe has a lwa ys unleashing these demons. europe has always been destructive for the tory party thatjohn major used a word beginning with b to describe his colleagues. but there wasn't the overt hatred. are there people beginning with a b in the

conservative party? probably enough bees to fill a decent size hive! would you describe michael as one of them? i am a nice guy. but i will disagree with you because arguing is always good on a television programme. i don't think it is as bad as thejohn major era. i was there as well. we are both getting old gracefully. and the rails i saw breaking out in the tearoom, you don't get that now. —— the rows. breaking out in the tearoom, you don't get that now. -- the rows. but they have people in front of the cameras, the chancellor, calling some colleagues including yourself extremists. i know and that was raised at the secret meeting which i shouldn't be revealing. but it was raised at the meeting with the prime ministerand raised at the meeting with the prime minister and the chancellor was that he looked at his shoes. philip hammond is a lovely guy but he does occasionally put his foot in his mouth when it comes to certain use of language. but there isn't the loathing between individuals that i think existed back in the john major years. a lot of that stemmed from...

he knows better than we do. loathing. i don't think that exist at the moment and it shouldn't. what is your view? i actually think this is your view? i actually think this is all about one issue and it is all about what is our relationship with europe and where does britain stand in our relationship with europe? and no conservative party leader has been able to satisfactorily answer that question over decades in order to bring the party together. and thatis to bring the party together. and that is where we are now.” to bring the party together. and that is where we are now. i think what david cameron was trying to do was get rid of the animosities and the fundamental differences on europe. he was trying to see off phuket. and then we could bring the party back together. but unfortunately because of what happened with you —— ukip and the referendum, we are being torn apart by the same party forces which have

split us for years, another labour party is divided, so we have a country divided from its political class right down to other elements of the population. i think we need to bring the country back together, respect each other's views, value our place in the world. and actually find a way forward. plenty of people would agree with that but who is a person to do that? we don't have an obvious leader and a lot of the country has huge sympathy for theresa may and you can't argue with how she has been trying her absolute utmost day and night to find a way forward to try and please those who really don't agree with europe. and thatis really don't agree with europe. and that is why i think there were just 117 votes. come off it! just? 200 people supported her. i totally agree with ros and we have got to get the party together at one of the ways i am keeping the party together is not telling anybody howl ways i am keeping the party together is not telling anybody how i voted.

how does that help? because if i say i will make enemies. but i will make some of my colleagues angry. and i am an emollient sort of guy, so they can guess, but i am not going to say. the problem for the conservative party is that david cameron unleashed these demons which have always been difficult to control and the conservative party. what has now become impossible is there is no happy issue out of these negotiations that is possible. that is why i think sensible people will say we had a go at this brexit, a false prospectus was given to people, and i listened with patience to you so... you interrupted me several times! brexit, to you so... you interrupted me severaltimes! brexit, the to you so... you interrupted me several times! brexit, the agenda put in by those advocating brexit was that we could just send them a text and say we are find a stronger letter follows and that would be all right. i don't think it was quite as simple as that. but the reality is

it has proven to be impossible and instead of brexit all that is likely to be on offer in any renegotiation is brexit name only. brina. if we are talking about the motherhood and apple pie stuff are bringing the country back together, the best way to do that is probably to accept that this will not work, and the divisions it is causing are not worth the effort. and what divisions would there be if that was the approach? we are in the sort of situation where there is no happy issue out of these afflictions that nobody is going to pay them because they know theresa may, having failed to win an election, has no clout. they also know there is no majority for brexit. whenever the national interest. this is notjust about the tory party. we need to come together and find a way forward that can command a majority in the house of commons for the sake of our country. at the end of the day it will be a

compromise and it won't be david and it won't be those who want to have a completely clean brexit. it will be a compromise, but we have already seen a compromise, but we have already seen last night that the european union is beginning to move. and that is the way they always do it. they leave things to the last minute. and thatis leave things to the last minute. and that is why i voted to leave. thank you to all of you for coming on the programme. martin untaxed: i was a brexiteer but now i see that we were conned. —— martin on text. time for a people's vote and this time with full enfranchisement with votes for expats, eu citizens in the uk and 16 to 18—year—olds, and under international supervision, a true people's vote. jim said: it is a disaster for our country that theresa may is still a minister when her heart is in the wrong place. she has refused to use her head, waiting to and half years not negotiating but compromising. the only person she listens to its herself and some

unelected and unaccountable bureaucrats in the eu. it was disastrous after the first compromise that we must work on coming out on world trade 0rganisation rules, and then negotiate some kind of trade deal. frank said: in 2016 we voted to leave the eu in a snap election theresa may try to strengthen her negotiating position and the public decided to weaken her. we are now paying the price of our actions. we need to compromise and support the best deal we can get and get out. europe has a short memory and is treating us with contempt. why would we wa nt treating us with contempt. why would we want to stay in? this has strengthened the leave argument. and one more now. i am really fed up of listening to mps trying to say that leave voters have changed their mind over brexit. immigration is still top of the list. as long as freedom of movement is stopped, we can live with the other problems we have. we will get through it eventually as we have always done. well, let's get the view

from sam coates, deputy political editor at the times. and norman smith. how do you assess where theresa may is now? the morning after the night before feeling today. i can't imagine that the conservative headquarters christmas party last night was much fun. everybody is claiming this morning that last night was a win and everybody is saying that their opponent lost. allies of theresa may are saying that she won pretty resoundingly with 200 people voting in her favour. pretty resoundingly with 200 people voting in herfavour. 0pponents in the conservative party say that she lost more than one third of her party, which is equally true. and labour are suggesting she does not have the authority of govern and asking her to put forward a meaningful vote. it could be said that we are not much further forward than on monday but it seems to me that theresa may is just a bit more we can. dominic raab came out this

morning making comments that he also thinks that her time is up. the prime minister had a couple of cards left to play. she is in brussels today and possibly tomorrow looking for a bit more out of europe. but i don't think she is going to get anything like the minimum that would convince most of her own side and the dup, so that is a problem. and she could just bring forward the vote. to before christmas? to before christmas. i know both wings of her cabinet would like to do that. remainers would like to bring it forward to leave and then have an addictive vote to find what might work. brexiteers want her to come forward and do the vote and lose and then they can have what they regard asa then they can have what they regard as a proper renegotiation that try to get rid of the backstop, something that europe had said all along that it will not do. —— indicative vote. labour wanted it christmas because they want to vote it down. personally ijust want christmas but that is not one of the options on the table. norman, how do you assess things? what will happen?

sam is right that not much has changed. 0ne significant may be movement is that the number of tory mps who are prepared basically to block this deal is probably higher than we thought. 117, given that the brexiteers were caught on the hop yesterday, they were not ready, the leaders were at sixes and sevens so they didn't have a coherent message, and downing street on the other hand was straight out of the blocks getting people in front of the cameras. the pm had a good session at pmqs and she got a bounce at the 22. a dismal day for brexiteers and yet they still got 117 despite mrs may offering up the reassurance that he will not stand at the next election. that says to me that we could be reaching a tipping point in the tory party in this unending civil war over europe. whether we are now heading for the final clash... are now heading for the final clash. . . the are now heading for the final clash... the denouement? maybe. what will it look like? they're is wild dog about whether the party can stay

together. not entirely fanciful. —— there is wild talk. there is an ideological divide between the different camps and many of them to test each other, so how do you bind them together? that is not out of them together? that is not out of the question. there is also loose talk about how maybe the way through this is trying, trying somehow, to get some broad cross—party consensus. in other words, get some broad cross—party consensus. in otherwords, if get some broad cross—party consensus. in other words, if you could get the tories on board, and the only way for mrs may to crack thatis the only way for mrs may to crack that is to reach out but she has shown no aptitude, ability and maybe even shown no aptitude, ability and maybe even interest in reaching out beyond her own ranks. but looking at it in terms of the numbers, it isn't going to go through unless she can get people beyond the tories on her side. some kind of reaching out to labour. that would be one strategy. i suspect a strategy will be to put her head down and keep battering away at that wall trying to wear people down with a dose of fear,

that unless they crack, we really are heading for no deal. i think a whole political style is to keep going and going. to take defeat and come back and have another defeat and just keep pummelling away in an attempt to break through. can you see the conservative party splitting into two over this? i think there are the first signs that is entirely possible. norman is completely right about leaving. a lot of business and politics these days is conducted in private on whatsapp groups. and you see people forming tribes or piling into each other on these private messages, which continually leak. and what you see in this conversation behind—the—scenes are the visceral hatred is being entrenched on social media. it is a new form of politics which is having a destabilising effect. previously you would have talked it out and now you would have talked it out and now you and your tribe fight it out and form hardcore and resilient groups. iam form hardcore and resilient groups. i am talking to tory mps now who say

that if the conservative party want ano that if the conservative party want a no deal exit and that is their policy for the next manifesto and the election, that they wouldn't stand on that. 20, 30, 40 mps, they speculate, would refuse to stand on a no—deal brexit. 0thers speculate, would refuse to stand on a no—deal brexit. others say if you just had boris johnson a no—deal brexit. others say if you just had borisjohnson orjacob rees—mogg leading the party, then some people wouldn't support that, mrs allen would not take the whip, she said. they have gotjeremy corbyn on the other side of the fence and they all agree they don't like him but one of the fascinating bits of labour's tactics as they are dialling down the noise. people were confused byjeremy corbyn in pmqs yesterday. he left it until question number six out of six until he raised the issue of no confidence. maybe he is not good at pmqs? but no, it is a deliberate tactic to shrink into the background and let the two wings of the conservative party slug it out because theyjudge thatis party slug it out because theyjudge that is the best way to clear a path for them to walk through and

possibly into power in the next few months. regarding labour, you have just described that. there is some pressure on them from their own supporters to do something. there is massive pressure. from the grassroots, from mps, who want me to call them to do two things, want to put down a vote of no confidence, the government is in disarray, go for it, and there are talks with the dup, and would they succeed? probably not. and if that happened, shift gear and move to open and explicit are campaigning for another referendum, which i think it is mr corbyn's real problem. he does not wa nt corbyn's real problem. he does not want to get into one option of a second referendum because he fears for the impact that would have among leave supporting labour constituencies. a lot of people around mr corbyn are terrified of

the impact that would have on traditional caught northern working—class labour constituencies, that the party would lose its grassroots. they are desperately trying to hold it back, that when you look at grassroots level is among the activists, just anecdotally, every labour person you come across it seems to be saying we'lljeremy corbyn back a second referendum? he very personally and those around him are the block to a second referendum and labour campaigning for another one. he and those around him. would you agree? everybody is looking at the labour leadership to see if they could shift and i think they will. 0ne leadership to see if they could shift and i think they will. one of the most fascinating changes over the most fascinating changes over the last four weeks has been a group inside the conservative cabinet to just look like they are tiptoeing a bit closer to a second referendum. not theresa may yet, but david gall, david livingstone, amber rab, philip hammond, greg clark. having previously been playing with the single market customs union idea, so now if that, why not stay in and

have the vote and have the representation? i think that option inside the cabinet, despite everything that has gone on over the last to and half years, is just running up the agenda. could you imagine theresa may being persuaded by that ever? there tactic is that theresa may is methodical and she must be walked through every option and be convinced that every other option does not work and then she might but they acknowledge it is very difficult. thank you very much, sam coates and norman smith. thank you for your company. bbc newsroom live is next and we are back tomorrow at ten o'clock. have a lovely day. good morning. if you have been

outside already, you will know that it is cold out there. we had a fairly strong south—easterly wind but it is also bringing in some sunny spells today compared to the last few days, so that is the scene towards kent, and quite widely across england and wales and up into scotla nd across england and wales and up into scotland there will be sunny spells through the afternoon. a bit of cloud for northern ireland, west wales and the south—west of england, and some spots of rain as well. showers in the east of scotland. most dry and bright but temperatures of six or seven. back in the strong winds and it will feel like freezing to two or three degrees. 0vernight there will be a lengthy clear spells and temperatures will drop away fairly quickly with cloudy skies across northern ireland. that keep temperatures above freezing and elsewhere down to minus two or three. friday should be dry and

bright for england, wales and scotla nd bright for england, wales and scotland but still cloudy in northern ireland with some spots of rain possible. temperatures up to 6 degrees and there will be a breeze and not quite as cold as today. goodbye. you're watching bbc news — we're live in westminster covering the fallout from last night's dramatic events in parliament. the headlines at eleven: theresa may gets back to business, heading for talks with eu leaders after winning a vote of no confidence called by her own mps. we now need to get on with the job of delivering brexit for the british people and building a better future for this country. the prime minister is returning to brussels where she will seek binding pledges from other european leaders

on the irish backstop at today's eu summit. it is confirmed there will be no commons vote on her deal next year. the supreme court rules that parts of holyrood's brexit legislation are outside the powers of the scottish parliament. i'm annita mcveigh, the other main stories on bbc