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this is bbc news, the headlines: french police have shot dead the gunman who killed three people at a christmas market in strasbourg earlier this week. officers came across cherif chekatt on a street in the city and killed him after he opened fire. he had been on the run since the shooting on tuesday evening. british prime minister theresa may has urged eu members to help salvage her brexit deal, but they say they won't renegotiate. ms may has been seeking assurances over the controversial irish border backstop after surviving a no—confidence vote earlier this week. president trump has denied directing his former personal lawyer to break the law, and says he had no ties to his crimes. michael cohen was sentenced to three years in prison earlier this week for crimes he claims the president told him to commit. now on bbc news, thursday in parliament. hello again and welcome
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to thursday in parliament. in this programme... mps take stock after that vote of confidence. it's the morning after the night before, and as the handovers start to kick in, we'll all be asking ourselves just one earth did we get to last night. —— just what on earth we got up to last night. ministers celebrate theresa may's victory. and that means she won that vote by a significant majority. and an outbreak of modesty in the house of lords. it is not a matter for a junior minister... laughter. ..to... all that to come and more. but first: it was a night when more than a third of conservative mps said they had no confidence
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in theresa may. but, having won the vote, the prime minister headed for brussels to seek more concessions over her brexit deal. back at westminster, mps tried to find out when they'd finally get a "meaningful vote" on it after the decision to postpone this week's debate and vote. when andrea leadsom, the leader of the house, outlined next week's schedule there was no sign of it. something spotted by her labour shadow. i don't know if i heard properly. has the leader actually given all the business next week? because i didn't hear when the debate on the on the meaningful vote would resume. it is obviously not listed for next week, so when will it come back? she said the government could no longer be trusted. even now, the prime minister is having made an agreement with the eu, is saying she will go back and find another way. the government spent money, ministers spread out around the country, when the people they had to convince were here in parliament. what did the government do? not listen to parliament. in fact the government told parliament to shut up. the government will bring
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the debate and vote back to the house at the latest by the 215t ofjanuary. in answer to the question about the prime minister, she would understand it is precisely, it is as the prime minister came to this house to make a statement to say precisely that it is because she is listening to the debate that is taking place in this house, that she is going back to the eu to recognise that honourable members require reassurances, notjust reassurances but legally binding reassurances that we cannot be trapped in a backstop permanently. and that is what the prime minister is seeking to do. so honourable members should rest assured the prime minister is very much seeking to address the concerns that are being expressed by this house. it's the morning after the night before, and as the hangovers start to kick in, we'll all be asking ourselves just a moment we get up to last night? laughter. as we look at the wreckage of the night of mayhem, we now find that we have a prime minister who only has the confidence of 200 members of this house.
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a lame—duck prime minister, who would give waterfowl with walking sticks a bad name. a third of her party, don't want her to lead them. her credibility is in chapters, her ability to lead gone forever. mr speaker, the main outcome of next week should be a motion of no—confidence in this rotten, divided government. hear, hear! they are there for the taking, divided, wounded and unable to govern. and i've got no idea what the labour party are waiting for. we could be shut of them pretty soon. so if they're not going to put in a motion of no—confidence in this government, it will be left to the other opposition parties of this house. the prime minister won 63% of the vote. and that was against 37% who didn't support her. and that means she won that vote by a significant majority,
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injune 2016, this house decided to ask the people whether we should leave the eu or remain within it. 52% said we should leave and 40% says we shall remain. that means that leave won, and that is why we are leaving the eu, just for his information. and he will recall that in scotland there was a vote on whether scotland should leave the united kingdom or not and 55% voted to stay in, 45% voted leave. that means a majority voted to stay in. one of the prime minister's conservative critics said he accepted the result. as the prime minister has said that she is going to the eu to secure significant and supposedly game changing amendments to the withdrawal agreement with the eu, will be a of the house assure us that we will get a full debate back when that agreement comes back. and given how oversubscribed that debate was, could she show was debate will last for longer than five days? can i thank my honourable
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friend, i think his approach is right, even if he did not support the prime minister, she won by a clear majority and it is right that he now supports her. he asks with the guaranteed amount of time will be and he will appreciate that the decision about that will depend on what the prime minister comes back with. it is preposterous for us to delay and mislead the boat on what we are doing for brexit. but if we bump up against the 21st of january, that will mean that as this is in this country will be wasting time, energy and money, worrying about whether there will be a new deal situations. we need to get on with it and i really say to the leader of the house to ditch all this business next week
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and let's get on with the debate and get on with making a decision, that is what parliament is for, decision. kicking the can down the road is not a strategy for government and the waiting for the sort of damocles to fall on people's homes, people's businesses and people's livelihood and nhs is unacceptable. she is deliberately pursuing a policy of running down the clock and spending taxpayers money in order to blackmail parliament into sorting her deal and i tell her now it will not work. she will realise that had we gone ahead with the boat that this house was very unlikely to support the withdrawal agreement as it stood. so while she says in not holding the vote, we are running down the clock, the actual point is that the prime minister listen to the reviews of the house and has now gone away urgently to seek changes that will mean the house can support that. in other words to put them think to the house that the house will support in the interest of the country. and downing street said later
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that the meaningful vote would not take place before christmas. just before the no confidence vote, it emerged that two mps who'd been suspended from the conservatives parliamentary party had the whip restored allowing them to take part in that vote. charlie elphicke, the mp for dover, and andrew griffiths, who represents burton, have both been accused of inappropriate sexual conduct. the news prompted protests from labour mps. she is so cute, so sweet, i cannot wait to beat her. can she take a beating? not my words mr speaker, the words of the mp for burton, while barraging two of his female constituents with thousands of sexual text messages.
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what message does this send of any process here in this place can ever be trusted? that question and also to answer me, what matters more? political power or protecting victims of sexual harassment and abuse? there has been a process that has been undertaken and it has been a decision by the chief whip. it is not something i have been privy to but i assure all honourable and right honourable members that in establishing the independent complaints procedure which is not involved in any party political processes whatsoever it is designed to enable anyone who works her visits this place to be able to take any complaints they have too an independent place for proper investigation to be applied. the leader's party yesterday lost a ny ounce of credibility in leading
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the investigations of sexual harassment and bullying in this place when the restored the waves fred the members of dover and burton and it is implausible that it is so happened that their investigations concluded yesterday. how can we be assured that party politics are taken out of the investigations into such allegations and out of crucial appointments to committees governing standards and privileges in this house? the honourable lady will be aware that all the parties across the house combined together to develop the independent complaints procedure. it was right we did that in one of the key reasons for doing that was to ensure that any complaints in the future will not have to go down party political roots. andrea leadsom. the conservatives dropped action against andrew griffiths due to his mental health at the time. charlie elphicke says he's confident he'll clear his name. police forces in england and wales are to get extra funding which the policing minister said recognised the " real pressure" they were facing.
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but labour has condemned the funding settlement for 2019 to 20 as another "real terms cut" with much of the money having to come from local taxpayers. in a statement, the minister said police forces would get more than £300 milllion in extra government grant, with local police and crime commissioners able to raise a further 500 million pounds from council tax at a cost of around 2a pounds year on the average bill. there has been a major increase in the reporting of higher harm previously hidden crimes such, as child sexual exploitation. the challenge from serious and organised crime networks is growing through the serious violence strategy we are bearing down on the worst spike in serious violence and knife crime that we have seen in this country in a decade. so madam deputy speaker, this settlement combines increased central funding with increased local contributions to local policing. it enables the biggest investment in frontline policing since 2010 and the start of the journey to get this country back to
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living within our means. it will allow pccs to manage their costs while maintaining their plans to recruit and fill capability gaps not least detectives. it will strengthen our capabilities in the fight against serious organised crime and terrorism. no precedent in post—war history for governments who have undermined —— labour accused said ministers of having created a "crisis in public safety". no precedent in post—war history for governments who have undermined the police in the way this one has no government in post—war history has ever slashed resources available to the police by as much as 30% and cut officers in every year. it has been in office. never since records began has violent crime been
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as high as it is today. never has knife crime been as high as it is today. arrests have halved in a decade. and she said passing the vast majority of the cost of dealing with that to council tax payers was "peverse and unfair". the only determination this is based on is local house prices. once again the minister is at the despatch box announcing cuts from central government funding and trying to dress them up as good news. i'm afraid no one is falling for it. account of inflation and also the increased pension costs and funding that there isn't a real increase in government funding for police forces. and could he also say what he thinks the impact of this funding will be? given that the arrests obviously have halved in the last ten years and even in the last three years we've seen about a third increase in the level of recorded crime but a quarter drop in the number of charges and summons? and therefore one of the things that i am the home secretary will be following very closely next year as i'm sure her committee will be doing is an improvement in exactly
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those outcomes that she identified despite the exceptional efforts there is a growing concern that too many serious crimes such as berger and attacks on people is going without investigation. can he ensure my constituents that additional resources going into the forest will allow for more investigations into those crimes? i hope he welcomes this settlement which builds on the settlement that results in an additional £4
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million pounds of policing. this settlement allows £11 million of further investment. it is up to the local crime commissioner and working with colleagues to decide on how the resources are allocated but i am sure he will be a powerful advocate for what he just described. the policing minister, nick hurd. you're watching thursday in parliament with me, david cornock. the police have been urged to do more to tackle online videos that glorify gun violence. a conservative mp criticised the sharing of so—called "drill music" videos and said the police should use their powers to ban them. there is one example of a gang who were glorifying violence, were convicted, they were banned from making any music videos and putting them online unless the police approved it. the police did approve one particular video which had absolutely shocking lyrics glorifying gun violence, and the police approved it! i mean, no wonder campaigners
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have their head in their hands when the police make decisions such as that one. i do feel that we have got to be a little less forgiving actually, of those who do present these very, very violent images on tv and then sort of shrug their shoulders, when we think it's having an impact on how our children view each other, their friends and how they view situations in their day—to—day lives. the minister will be aware that, for as long as anyone can remember, people have sought to blame the music they listen to for young people's bad behaviour. but let me say this: much of that drill music and the videos are horrifying and appalling, but, at the end of the day, the music is a reflection of the lives and the reality of those young people. it is not a cause of violent crime. just to clarify. i am grateful to the right honourable member for giving way.
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i wasn't claiming that the music causes serious violence. but from a safeguarding aspect, ijust... i don't know. as a mum, surely we want to keep our children safe, we want to protect them. and we have got to have a debate. and i don't know where that line is at the moment, about what sort of music and videos we as mothers want our children to be watching. and what sort of videos we don't. you know, there are very clear cases where they have been inciting violence. i appreciate there is a great area where they may not, where they have terminology we may not like. but do we still as mums not want for them to be watching? that is the point i was making. as a mother, let me gently tell the minister that what you want your children to view online and what they actually view online are two different things. but i would go further and say that if she is concerned about safeguarding children, maybe she should spend some time lobbying her ministers
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in education to make more money available for education. particularly in some of the areas with the biggest incidence of violent youth crime. the government has been accused of breaking its promise over the free television licence for the over 75s. the bbc takes responsibility for funding the concession in 2020. by then, it's expected the cost will total almost £750 million — a fifth of the its budget. the bbc has published a consultation which includes a range of options for the public to consider on the future of that concession. and we expect the bbc to make a decision byjune of next year. but i've made it clear that we expect the bbc to continue with the concession after 2020. speaker: diana johnson.
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i'm very grateful to the secretary of state for that answer because we know it was a very popular initiative brought in by the labour government in 2000 to recognise that tv is a lifeline for many very elderly people, and also to recognise to give them something back for their contribution to this country. so i'm very pleased that he is saying that is the case. does he think that the consultation so far is indicating that the cost of actually administering a new system where there might be means tested would well outweigh the savings that the bbc are looking to make? well, mr speaker, the honourable lady makes a fair point about means testing. of course, whenever means testing is proposed, that is exactly one of the considerations that must he accounted for. i think the right approach here is to allow all those who wish to, to comment on these consultation options, for the bbc to properly consider them, and to decide what to do next. that is now their responsibility. but the expectation of the government is clear, and i suspect, as she says, the expectation of many members of this house on both
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sides is also clear. the government may have devolved welfare cuts to the bbc, but the secretary of state will not be able to devolve responsibility for this impending policy disaster. so will he now admit, on record, to this house, that his government have broken a manifesto pledge and he has broken his promise to all those people in his constituency? hear, hear! no, mr speaker, of course not, because that hasn't happened. let me just say again to the right honourable gentleman, what he is positing here is a hypothetical situation — it hasn't happened. and it's important that the bbc get the chance to consider the right way forward here. all that he says about the importance of television, to those who are elderly and particularly as he says to those who are lonely, is quite right. but there has been no decision made here yet. and i think it's right to give the bbc the space in which to make it.
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and that i think is the right way forward. the culture secretary, jeremy wright. the head of the civil service has told mps that some government departments have "paused" domestic policy work to focus on preparing for brexit. sir mark sedwill was appearing before the public administration and constitutional affairs committee for the first time since he took over as cabinet secretary in october. some departments, for example, have paused some of their other domestic policy agenda in order to focus their attention on planning for the 29th of march. and that partly reflects the nature of their brexit portfolio, if you like, compared to others, and in some other cases releasing officials to do so. each department essentially needs to make its ownjudgements between the secretary of state and the permanent secretary about what their capacity is to deliver. but essentially, the brexit agenda is incorporated alongside the rest of the department agenda. in some cases, we've had increases in resources, and i think we will be familiar
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with some of the numbers on that. but then they have to prioritise within that and mainstream, as much as they can, of the work to navigate their particular portfolios through the brexit transition. the government's been told that the many billions of pounds going to the high speed two rail project would be better spent on other transport schemes or on different priorities altogether, such as the armed forces. hs2 promises to increase capacity and cutjourney times from london to birmingham, manchester and leeds. speaking for the government, a former transport secretary, lord young, said cost estimates for hs2 would be published next year. but some peers thought the government had its priorities wrong. it's a huge amount of money involved. there is not much money around and things have changed. can i ask the noble lord, does he think that increasing capacity on the west coast main line is more important than,
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for example, sorting out the shambles in the civil nuclear industry, thereby safeguarding our future energy supplies for the nation? does he think it's more important than getting a secure gps system to replace galileo, from which we were so disgracefully excluded by the eu? does he think it's more important than resolving the funding crisis in our armed forces, at a time that russia is confronting and destabilising our nation? if not, don't you think there's a time that we should pause and reconsider maybe where this money should be spent? laughter well... the noble lord will know that the question about the allocation of resources between a range of government departments is one taken collectively by the cabinet and announced by the chancellor of the exchequer at the appropriate time. it is not a matter for a junior minister to... laughter
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..to comment on the allocation of public expenditures between the ministry of defence, transport, energy and a whole range of departments. on the last part of his question, i think it is right to go ahead with this project. it is expensive, but the phase one funding has not increased since the spending review settlement in 2015. phase one is scheduled across £27.18 billion 2015 prices. and we have determined to keep it within the cost estimate. a labour former transport secretary joined the debate. in respect of hs2 and hs3, my lord, it is vitally important that we improve intercity connectivity between london, the midlands and the north. it is also vitally important that we improve connectivity between the northern cities. and, my lord, we should not have to choose between them. so would the noble lord agree that the right thing to do
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is to proceed with hs2 and hs3? and if we weren't having to spend £39 billion on brexit then we could do both very comfortably? hear, hear! my lord, you don't see one transport secretary for a long time and then two come along at once. laughter. the noble lord is right. hsz will directly connect eight of the ten largest cities in the country — it is about connectivity and capacity as much as about speed. lords young and adonis, one former transport secretary to another. and finally, some great news for political anoraks and fans of a legendary nineteenth century house of commons clerk, thomas erskine may, who literally wrote the book on parliamentary procedure. and mr speaker, i am pleased to be able to spread some festive cheer to the house this morning. the new edition of erskine may which is due to be published in 2019
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will be publicly available... hear, hear! ..on parliament's website as well as on parliament to the internet and in hard copy as normal. the first edition was published in the mid—19th century, and new editions are published approximately every six or seven years. but this will be the first publicly available online. at £300 for the hardback it's definitely good news we'll be able to read it for free online. time for me to get my anorak. do try to join me on friday at 11:00 for the week in parliament. thank you for watching. bye for now. hello. thursday brought us a cold and a frosty day across many parts of the country, but there was some
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blue sky and some sunshine. this picture was taken by one of our weather watchers in wiltshire and i think friday morning will dawn on a very similar note. again, it will be a cold and a frosty start to the day with subzero temperatures first thing. plenty of spells of sunshine for many of us through the course of the day to compensate for that fairly chilly start. but temperatures fairly widely will be below freezing, it won't be quite as cold in the west, particularly for northern ireland, where we have more cloud first thing friday morning, keeping temperatures around 11—5 degrees. after that cold, frosty start for many of us it will be a decent, dry looking day, always a bit more cloud for northern ireland with a chance of a few showers at times too. and just one or two showers around this exposed eastern coasts, particularly for eastern scotland and north—east england, could even be a wintry flurry towards east anglia and the south—east. but for the vast majority of people, you'll miss those showers. and temperatures for most of us around 4—7 degrees. then, into friday evening, we see the cloud bringing more outbreaks of rain parts
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of northern ireland and the west of scotland too. eastern areas keeping in that cold air. so you can see blue colours later on through friday and then on into saturday. but some milder airjust waiting in the wings here out towards the south—west, that will be drawn in on this weather front. so a bit of a change in conditions as we head through into the weekend, as a frontal system works in from the west, it will bring not only the milder air but also some outbreaks of rain which will for some of us turn to snow. so, for saturday, things are turning pretty wet and windy. some fairly heavy snow and also some ice across scotland and northern england combined with some strong winds, too. so there could be some travel disruption through the day on saturday as this weather front bumps into that cold air. you can see snow across parts of northern england and scotland, too. could be about 10—20 centimetres across central parts of scotland, even more of the high ground, 2—5 centimetres across parts of northern england. now, it will turn back to rain further south across the country, where we have got some slightly mild airworking in, but you will really notice the strength of those winds. it will feel around “11 degrees there in hull.
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for northern ireland, you've got the slightly mild air moving in, so any early snow turning back to rain. but some heavy snow across scotland could be quite problematic through the day on saturday. that rain—snow mix slowly easing away towards the east as we head through into the second half of the weekend, but we keep that pretty chilly wind coming in from the west. so, although things will turn milder through the day on sunday, most of those heavy and wintry showers should ease away, too. bye— bye. welcome to bbc news, broadcasting to viewers in north america and around the globe. my name is mike embley. our top stories: french police kill the man wanted in connection with the attack at a christmas market in strasbourg. ready to help but unwilling to renegotiate, that's the message from eu leaders as theresa may tries to salvage her brexit deal. president trump denies telling his former lawyer to do
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anything wrong, a day after michael cohen is sentenced to jail. president trump denies telling his former lawyer to do anything wrong, a day after michael cohen is sentenced to jail.

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