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with mexico unless congress agrees to fund his controversial plan to build a wall between the two countries. the dispute, prompted by illegal immigration, has caused the partial shutdown of the us government. a tourist bus in egypt has been hit by a roadside bomb, near the giza pyramids, killing three vietnamese tourists and a local guide. the authorities say 12 other people were injured. two of them are in a critical condition. the british home secretary has declared a "major incident" after a surge in the number of migrants trying to cross the english channel in small boats. 75 people have reached the uk in the past three days and at least 221 people have attempted the crossing since the start of november. now on bbc news, it would be an understatement to say tensions have been high between russia and the uk in 2018. but what do younger russians really think of their british counterparts? newsbeat‘s will chalk went to find out if we're enemies, or can we make friends?
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poisoning, spying, hacking, meddling in elections, peddling fake news. to say tensions with russia are high right now would be an understatement. our media and our government is making them out to be boogeymen. it is highly likely that russia was responsible for the act against sergei and yulia skripal. but are they as bad as all that? well, to find out, we're heading there. hey! russia! putin riding a bear! with a gun on his back. we'll be finding out what they really think of britain. do they like us? i don't really believe we're enemies. it's just politics. when it comes to average people, we are friends. i grew up on england's music, you know, and british.
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my favourite band was oasis. and if not, why not? people don't find it offensive to ask you whether all russian girls are sluts and how much vodka can you drink. so, we're starting ourjourney at a barber's shop. not, unfortunately, to do anything about this — believe it or not, i like it this way — but because here they're seen as the height of western sophistication. go back five, ten years, and barbers' shops like this didn't really exist. if you were a bloke and you wanted a haircut, it was a very regimented "in, chop, out" experience. now, everything's changed. obviously, there's loads of stories in the uk media right now that are negative about russia. but, in terms of culture, you don't think there's a problem. i don't really think so, because if you look into movies, into music, for example, we love it. and in terms of culture, in terms of even business, we do take loads of things from the west.
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0k, here's our barber, eugene. very nice to meet you, eugene. eugene offered to show me the basics of being a barber. and, somehow, he found a willing guinea pig. big finger on this section. 0k. i'm sorry in advance. you must have been one of the first barbers in russia. yes. maybe. now, it's one of the most popular professions for young people. i have never been in britain or america, but i think i'm a cosmopolitan, and i like every country. it's one of my first... ..passions in my life, it's music, and i really like the british music. of britpop, i like gorillaz, i like damon albarn, and i like oasis. it's not so hard. just a little bit more practice. yeah. yes. do you think we're enemies,
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russia and the uk? no, i don't think so. i spent quite a long time in the uk and ijust, all the time i wanted to come back, to experience these vibes of the country. i don't really believe we're enemies. it's just politics. when it comes to average people, we are friends, we can go to festivals, to concerts, to the cinema, just to enjoy ourselves and share some good moments of our lives. he's going to finish it himself! laughs not a glowing endorsement, is it? back home, you don't have to look very hard to find negative stories about russia. there's the public inquiry in 2016 into the death of former russian spy
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alexander litvinenko. it concluded that his murder was probably approved by russia's president, vladimir putin. then there's the american media, which has been full of accusations that russia meddled in its 2016 presidential election. very strong on the fact that we can't have meddling, we can't have any of that. not to forget crimea. it's a bit of land between russia and ukraine that's belonged to both countries at different points in history. it had been part of ukraine for 60 years until, four years ago, russian troops marched in and controversially claimed it back. and, of course, there's the poisoning this year in salisbury of another former russian spy, sergei skripal, his daughter yulia, and two innocent bystanders. a murder investigation has been launched after a woman who came into contact with the nerve agent novichok in wiltshire died. things like these tend to get noticed by other countries. so, whether it's the enhanced air—policing mission the raf have just spent three months taking part in off the coast of romania,
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or a joint uk and us marines training exercise in norway, just 100 miles away from the russian border, they tend to be justified in the same way. and deter russian aggression. we're here doing the same thing. for seven decades, it lived under communist rule, and it's still trying to adapt to being a capitalist country. and, to be honest, it's been a long, hard slog. whilst here in the capital, moscow, there are plenty of displays of wealth, even though russia's got twice as many people as the uk, it's got less cash — much less. per person, russia has around a quarter of the money the uk has, and it means people have to be creative to get by. how would you describe what you do for a living? what's the closest you've ever come to falling off? so, there are things
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like this all over the world, urban exploring and stuff, but roofing seems to be especially popular in russia. you guys are like celebrities. why do you think what you do has captured the imagination of young russian people so much? despite what kirill says, roofing is a risky way to make a living. several of his contemporaries have died and, on his point about politics, he's spent time in jail when one stunt, which he says he wasn't even involved in, was deemed to be — you guessed it — too political. but as we left, we had our own problems. getting off the rooftop meant going through kirill‘s mate's flat. what's happened, will?
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massive snake! and i'm not talking about a small pet snake. a massive boa constrictor has just escaped from the cage, but everyone‘s just acting like it's the most normal thing in the world. it's now behind the fridge! yelling laughing did it open the cupboard? oh, my god! it's in the cupboard! this is horrible! we're at an ordinary market stall here. so, you've got t—shirts of people like ronaldo, messi, sporting heroes. khabib, obviously, a russian hero. and just above them, putin riding a bear! with a gun on his back.
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putin, slightly out of date, kicking barack 0bama in the face. it might seem strange, but it's because he's been in power for nearly 20 years, so for a lot of young people, even if they were born slightly before he first came to power, he's all they've ever known. so, they see him like a bit of a god. it is odd, there's no doubting it, but the more i stand here, the more i find myself kind of getting taken in by it. we are just outside the food hall.
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so, we're going to meet makar. he's the leader of a group called set. that's how it translates into english. they call themselves the puteens, because they're young — teenagers — and they love, love, love vladimir putin. so, we're going to go and meet them and see what they think of people like us in the west. makar? will. nice to meet you. shall we get out of the road? laughs set is essentially an arts collective. fashion designers, painters, graphic artists can all come and use it for free. there's just one condition. so, if we take one recent example — the poisoning in salisbury. you must believe that the uk government has done this to make russia look bad? almost the common—sense way to
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look at it from my perspective is, with a lot of these things — so, with the salisbury poisoning, with ukraine, with how democratic the elections are — most of the rest of the world tends to agree that russia is in the wrong. so, if you were just looking at it as a neutral, do you think it's more likely that the whole world is ganging up on russia, or do you think it's more likely that things aren't maybe as you've portrayed them? so, if the problem is that your news says one thing,
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our news says the other thing, no—one wants another cold war — how are britain and russia ever going to kiss and make up, i guess? so, god's honest truth, i actually didn't think me and makar were going to get on that well at all. someone who loves the powers—that—be so much that they've started an arts collective to celebrate how great they are. but, actually, he's a great guy. he's lovely. i think a lot of his views probably seem quite mad to people outside of russia, but then, he's clearly a rational guy. so, i guess a lot of what we believe must seem quite mad to him. a common theme we've found here is that people are chatty with you until you bring up politics.
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but, to be honest, when you think about it, it's not really that surprising. it's widely believed that all the main tv channels here are under the control of the state. but what we do know for certain is that they're all pro—vladimir putin, and protesting can get you thrown in jail. there are elections, but there are usually questions about whether they're rigged. announcer: vladimir putin! think votes being found in ballot boxes before the polls have even opened, or cctv cameras in polling stations being conveniently covered up. hey, we were watching that! recently, the main opposition leader, alexei navalny, has found himself in and out ofjail after being arrested for stuff he says has just been made up to stop him doing hisjob. so, a lot of the rules here are unwritten and quite subtle. so, the government would say people have freedom of speech, but at the same time, if you're seen chatting to someone like the bbc in certain parts of the country, you might find yourself — coincidentally, of course — getting a visit from the police later on. despite this, we've come to chat
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to some people who've told us they're not afraid to speak to us. to be completely honest, i think there is a distinction between being afraid and being free. i can't say that i'm afraid because i never was challenged by something to be afraid of, if that makes sense. but i can't say that i'm free. there's no political power or political party which i can support, with which views i would agree. i don't think that i am represented in parliament. i don't think that our government cares about us. and, obviously, they lie to us. they're always finding someone to blame. it's always the west. or it is always some people in russia, or it is homosexuals, or whatever it is, and they never take the blame. so, a big story in the uk at the moment is the spy, sergei skripal, who was poisoned.
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yeah. do you guys think it's... ..it‘s possible that russia was behind it? i don't really know. i don't like lots of things about our government, but, to be completely honest, the west wants and needs to portray us as bad. it's like the war on terrorism. you always need someone bad for yourself in order to distract people from something what happens inside. loads of people we want to talk to here have said they'll talk to us, but not about politics. lots of people ask me not to. they were scared about me, like, how it might affect me in future. i don't know. i think that, who, if not me? and when, if not now? everyone in this country's scared. and as long as everyone is scared, we're going to be where we are now. there might be consequences, even bad. i don't know what will happen next day or in a week. whether it will touch my family, but giving the idea to the western public that russians are not the scariest white people, and showing people that we are progressive might make some change. i was living in scotland, like, nine months ago, and being from eastern europe, it is hard in the uk. people are stereotyping.
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people are putting labels on you. people don't find it offensive to ask you whether all russian girls are sluts, and how much vodka can you drink. so far, we've spoken to entrepreneurs, people making money through instagram, quite modern ways of making a living. but these next two are doing things in a much more traditional way. pop music. they're part of a genre that's called meme pop, and it's absolutely massive here in russia. but it's yet to make any waves in the west. but do these guys hope that could be about to change? let's go find out.
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counting time in russian. they play. they sing. he applauds. how would you describe your music? funny, but sad. something completely different. it's called meme pop, is that right? no. no, we don't like that. do people call it meme pop? yeah, some people. you guys are getting a name for yourself in russia. it's kind of this classic thing where people want to break the west and get big in america? no.
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no? no, i don't think so. no. maybe we want it! a little bit. but i think that our music and our lyrics is very connected with russia and russian culture. and it's very difficult to understand it without context. do you think there is a divide, then, between what works for a uk audience and what works for a russian audience? yeah, yeah, i think so. there's obviously a political divide between the uk and russia right now. do you think music and culture is one of the ways we might be able to fix that? i think music is a right way. but, maybe it will work, and maybe not. and what about you guys and what you listen to? is it mainly traditional russian stuff? no. i grew up on england's music, you know, and british. my favourite band at 16 was oasis. it's a very common thing. and i think that's the way the culture is connected, by this. so, we've chatted to a few people now, but i'm interested to find out
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how much what they've been telling us is representative of what young people across russia think as a whole. so, we've come to meet a guy from the levada center. it's basically a big survey company. it might sound a bit dull, but it's interesting because it's one of the few organisations in russia that's not run by the government that's allowed to ask people what they think. as a whole, how do young people feel about vladimir putin and the government in russia? half a year ago, my answer would have been different, because just six months ago, young people, together with pensioners, were one of the main supporters of vladimir putin. but now, somehow, putin is not so appealing now for young people. maybe — i don't know, because we are only trying to understand it — maybe because they started to pay more attention on young people, so there were more meetings of young
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people with putin, more state attention towards young people. maybe this didn't work well. had the opposite effect? yeah, probably. and what's your research found about young people and their attitudes towards the west? in recent months, we saw that more and more young people are becoming... ..feeling more positive towards the west, and there is kind of a widening gap between young people and the population in general. but i think when the questions are directly about politics, still, ithink, even with the younger people, they will be pro—russian, of course. that russia should not give in. that russia should go on. russia should be independent. but if you ask about way of life, if you ask about what countries would we like to take this example from... emulate, i guess?
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emulate, yes. it's... it's, first of all, western countries. so, this is it, ourfinal morning in russia. we're on our way to the airport now. if i'm honest, before i came here, i did have a slight nervous preconception as to what it might be like. probably because of all the negative news stories about russia that have been kicking around. now, we've only been in moscow, so we can'tjudge the whole country, but it's not been like that at all. just walking around, it feels like any other city. and, to be honest, ifeel a bit stupid for having that nervous preconception at all. that being said, after you've been here for a few days, you do sense an undercurrent of fear, i think, it's fair to say, among people? we went to a football match in some of our downtime the other day. we went to see spartak moscow. and i've never seen a crowd being so well behaved, as they filed out of the stadium, in my life. but it's because there were hundreds
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of army officers lining the street. and, in terms of talking to us, even the people who are really keen to talk to us are nervous about it. and some of the people refuse because they are too scared, because they say they don't know what the authorities will do to them if they say the wrong thing. in terms of how we can make things between the uk and russia better, most people here seem to say the solution is just to, for us, the normal people, the nonpoliticians, to meet up and talk and have fun, because they say, "look at the world cup." there was so much negative press about how that might go, and, actually, it went great! although, if we're honest, that might not be that easy. so, getting permission to film in russia was a nightmare. getting permission to come here on holiday is hard. and the vast, vast majority of russians don't own a passport, so they've never left the country. so, as much as they might like to take politics out of it, it's not that easy. hello there.
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here comes your weather forecast for the rest of this year and i have to say, for many of us, it doesn't bring any huge changes. it's going to stay pretty mild through the next few days. mostly dry as well although northern parts of the uk are going to see some bursts of rain and some brisk winds at times as well and that's certainly the case during saturday. this little area of low pressure moving across northern scotland. providing wet weather through the first part of the day. some windy weather too and the wind for all of us coming from the south—west, bringing this mild air in our direction. so we start off saturday morning with outbreaks of rain in parts of scotland but the worst of it looks likely to have cleared away by the time it gets light. still a few hefty showers through the morning and also some gusty winds. the black arrows here show wind gusts in excess of 40mp, might get close to 50mph on high ground but northern ireland and england, perhaps the north midlands and wales will see some extra cloud, maybe the old spot of brain around. but the south, mainly dry and rather cloudy and murky to the day
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and as we had deeper into saturday, many areas will brighten up, particularly across scotland, sunshine across northern ireland and northern england and perhaps the midlands later in the day. should brighten up nicely. further south, or more in the way of cloud and we keep that mild feel in the south, temperatures coming down as the weather gets on in the norther half of the uk. we move out of saturday to sunday and we do it all again. we bring more wind across northern areas of scotland and england, much of it clear by the end of the night, the further south you go mostly dry. mild air returning once again from the south—west. sunday looks like this, some patchy rain. it'll mostly clear, but could linger for a good part of the day across the northern isles and largely dry, a lot of cloud in the west. best of brightness for nothern scotland, north—east england. those temperature is still pretty impressive for this time of year. into the last day of the year, monday, new year's eve, it's looking like another largely dry day. areas of cloud, mist and fog and patchy rain at times. again, those temperatures in double digits. if you're out celebrating in the evening, this is the weather set—up. high pressure in charge, a weak frontal system in the north, so patchy rain and here
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we have the high pressure, still a lot of cloud trapped underneath it stood midnight, i'm expecting it should be dry but rather cloudy and a bit murky as well. this is bbc world news i'm lewis vaughan jones. our top stories: president trump threatens to close the us—mexico border unless congress agrees to fund his wall. a roadside bomb has killed four people and injured 12 others on a tourist bus near the giza pyramids in egypt. the rising number of
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migrants trying to cross the english channel is declared a major incident by the british home secretary. satellite images reveal anak krakatau has lost over two—thirds of its height and volume since it exploded last week, killing more than 400 people. and monty python's michael palin and model twiggy are among the stars recognised in the new year's honours list.
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