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the quickly open up the floodgates, if you like, and more will come. and thatis you like, and more will come. and that is why it we need to stop the smugglers now before this gets out of hand. 0k. tony smith, former border force richter general. it has been really interesting talking to you. thank you for your insights. —— director—general. it is 7:30 a.m.. the bumper edition of click is coming up shortly. stay with us, headlines coming up. hello, this is breakfast with naga munchetty and roger johnson. good morning. here's a summary of today's main stories from bbc news. more than 1,000 people have been recognised
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in the new year honours list, including some of the emergency workers who responded to the terror attacks in manchester and london in 2017. also honoured were the british divers who helped rescue a team of young footballers from a cave in thailand. leading figures from the worlds of showbusiness, sport and fashion are on the list, including a damehood for twiggy, and broadcaster michael palin becomes a sir. i'm very surprised, because i've done a lot of things in my life, none of which i thought were worthy of such recognition. but maybe the cumulative effect is one of some kind of achievement. i didn't expect it, it was completely out of the blue. a shock. but the nicest shock in the world. who wouldn't want to be dame twiggy? the immigration minister, caroline nokes, is to visit dover today, amid mounting criticism of the government's response to the rising number of migrants crossing the channel in small boats. a number of mps have called for more patrol boats to be deployed, but the government fears they could be seen as rescue boats
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and encourage more people to cross. more than 200 migrants have arrived since the start of november, leading the home secretary to declare a major incident. it's been confirmed that administrators have been brought in to run the music retailer hmv, which has collapsed after suffering poor sales. the store's owners say high business rates and changes in consumer behaviour are to blame. the retailer employs more than 2000 staff across the uk. administrators from kpmg say they'll try to keep all 125 stores open while they're looking for a buyer. the government's spending more than £100 million to charter extra ferries to ensure the delivery of essential supplies in the event of a no deal brexit. the plans would allow for almost 4000 lorries a week to take goods to ports like dover, plymouth, poole, and portsmouth. the department for transport says
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the arrangements are an important part of its preparations, but insists the government still wants to strike a deal with brussels. three vietnamese tourist and a tour guide have been hit by an explosion in egypt. it is the first deadly attack against foreign tourist in egyptin attack against foreign tourist in egypt in more than a year. virgin trains is deploying staff wearing pink high visibility vest trained in conflict resolution to deal with that fans using its services. the scheme has been trialled since the start of the football season and is 110w start of the football season and is now being rolled out on a more permanent basis. company says it chose the colour pink because it is known to have a calming effect on crowds. —— of the company. helen is going to take us through the weather 110w. going to take us through the weather now. what is that picture? i don't like that. well, i am just showing you that we
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have some rain forecast today. this was taken last night in sterling. we have gone away from the completely cloudy but dry picture, we have got a little bit of rain in the forecast, but that will ease away and become mostly dry. this was taken last night in stirling by graham. it is a cloudy picture, not in stirling this morning, actually, because the cloud has cleared away. the weather front is tied in with the low pressure towards the north, which is then clearing away. high pressure moving into day and squeezing out the rain. relatively milder coming into the atlantic. that is why we've got all this cloud. that is getting pulled in across the uk and giving us the rain. it was quite wet, this is last night's weather picture, still wet in the north but our weather front further south, the one that gave us the rain in stirling camera is fizzling out now. still a bit blustery and damp across the far north of scotland and the northern
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isles this morning. the winds are exceptional, not this time of year. they are coming from the north—west so they are coming from the north—west so they will be lolling cloud across scotland, northern england, northern ireland, eventually wales and the midlands. we will keep a legacy of cloudy skies further south—east as the rain and drizzle does die out for the most part. it is mild. these are the highest temperatures. i think they will do the way through the afternoon. certainly this evening we are in for a touch of frost in eastern areas initially. a little bit of cold —— filed. as the evening and night rolls on, we have this weather front rolling back in across this weather front rolling back in a cross m ost this weather front rolling back in across most part. that brings with it rain and drizzle. that will lift the temperatures again and the fog will lift onto the hills and the coastal areas. again, as sunday morning begins it will be a rather grey affairfor morning begins it will be a rather grey affair for many. that would front does clear away as we go into the afternoon. —— weather front. front does clear away as we go into the afternoon. —— weatherfront. so there will be brighter skies developing, particularly in sheltered areas. it is in scotland and eastern england still relatively mild. lots of cloud. a very usable weather if you want to get out and
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about for a walk. watch out for low cloud on the hills and mountains. a similar story on monday. more wind in the north on monday for the western isles and the highlands we will begin to pick up some rain as well towards the end of new year's eve. still mild, tens and 11 is. if you're planning to head out on new year's eve this is the picture through the evening and overnight. high pressure, still lots of cloud we talked about. that weather front is in the north of tightly packed isobars. windy weather to the further north and central parts of scotland. for many of us it will be mostly dry. if you are heading out very late and into the early hours of new years on in, it will be a bit foggy in some places. again, still mostly dry, and changing the wind direction on new year's day to a northerly, which might encourage more sunshine. that is pretty much how i like it. you like a chilly evening, don't you? yes, with some sunshine. roger degrees. 10096. -- roger agrees. we'll have all the headlines coming up shortly. now it's time for click live
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with spencer kelly and lara lewington. shhh! why, hello there, little bedbugs. you're so sweet. i can change my face completely to match what i'm supposed to do. for example, i can be a woman like this. it's a bit creepy. we have got an informal queueing system going on here, like pub. hello! 17 minutes to go until the show begins. and we're just writing the script. we should start with "welcome." spencer kelly is really funny. better than some actors, anyway. technology has moved on quite a lot since i was at school. we didn't have any computers then. you don't get nervous. he does, all the time!
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just getting in the last touches. are you looking forward to it? yeah. welcome to click. from broadcasting house in london, this is bbc click live. please welcome your hosts, lara lewington and spencer kelly. good afternoon, london! welcome to click live. we're going to start with something truly magical. i would like you to put on your headsets and we'll show the magic image. we're going to show you part of a show about gulliver's travels. gulliver and his daughter gilly are in the land of the giants. they've been brought to the queen to entertain her. enjoy the show. why, hello there, little bedbugs. i hear you have prepared a special song for me? like we have a choice. your highness, i am
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afraid there's been a small misunderstanding. you see, we do know how to play the piano, but we are not used to such a big one, you see. the peasant promised you would play the piano for me. yes, but... and when promises are not kept it makes my heart so sad, and when my heart gets sad i start crying, and when i start crying... please, don't cry. forget what i said. we will play a song, just as you were promised. 0k? you may. thanks. here we go. ready? ready. 0k. applause.
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i;m going to call up one of the people behind this a ar show from israel, please welcome sasha kreindlin. thank you so much. can you explain whatjust happened? what we did is, we created the tools to incorporate ar into the live show. this tool allows the artist to focus not only on the stage but the entire venue as your canvas. if everybody turned their head while the scene was going on, there is a whole castle around you. and the second revolutionary part is the interaction part, because they have buttons on their headsets and they can interact with the live show and it gives a world of possibility. cool part of the magic is going on in the glasses you are wearing. if you could put the glasses on now, we are going to hear and see some more technology, because half the magic is going on in the goggles and the other half is going on in the gallery backstage, which is where lara is right now. that's right.
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throughout the whole of click live, lots of the technical stuff is happening back here. before the ar show you have just seen, isaac has been doing something here on a computer to make it happen. what have you been doing? what i'm doing is controlling everything that happens in the ar, all the headsets, so i can play god. i can make it rain on them, do things to the actors on stage, set the monitors so they can see what is going on. synchronise everything with the sound and lighting. please give it up for the ar show. so, we're just getting the robots ready. a] is getting his laser tag guns ready, because he will trigger the robots to dance. at mekamon in bristol, 30 robot toys are being taught to tango. well, sort of. to get the bots to bust a groove simultaenously, they all need to be set off at exactly the same time. so the team behind them had to get creative. so, this fires infrared. at all the robots. and the robots get the signal, and they know it's time to dance. a tv remote was just really boring,
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so we got the laser gun. and it makes cool noises. it is cool, when it works. does it still need reloading? you have to reload the laser gun? and we can reset that. it's a cone of light that comes out, not a single beam. if you get very close to our robot it's a net that's more narrow. the further back you are, we find it's a better, wider tact. it is the same with the robots,
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they fire out a cone. they have used video animation software to choreograph the custom dance routine. i make one animation and that will be distributed to all 30. the way that we did the mexican wave was that we put it into grid so that the last bit has a staggered animation, so for that bit, they all had their own little animation. so here i've got six animations. that is how you get this. this ripple effect. because the robots don't know where they are in relation to one another, they have to be positioned in precisely the right place. but when it's done right... music plays. and i'm joined here by their proud father, ceo and co—founder of reach robotics, silas adekunle. thanks for having me. if robotics can already do this for fun, there must be some exciting prospects about what they will
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be capable of soon. definitely. with mekamon we are about education, so you can learn to code and learn stem skills with mekamon. on top of that we have robots starting to get out and the next phase for robotics, especially consumer robotics, which will be a big part of that, robots that can go to our houses and help us. some of your smart devices, they can speak you and ask questions of you. the next stage is for you to be able to say, get me there and we'll get it for you. can you tell them a bit about your story? you have an interesting background. yes, that's a photo of me from nigeria. i was born in nigeria, moved to the uk when i was about 11 or12, but before that i had been interested in science, engineering, stem. so when i moved to the uk, to cut a long story short, i went to university
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to study robotics and in that time i saw that when you combine consumer robotics with gaming, it gets a really powerful engagement. it's a lot more interesting, as you can see. these robots are a bit like videogame characters in real life. they get better and stronger all time. that was the inception of the idea behind mekamon. how do you get the motion so realistic? there are two ways we do that. one is something called kinematics, where the robot is actually figuring out where it is moving to, and the second is that we have an amazing talented team of animators who work on it digitally and try to make that motion as realistic as possible. so what you're looking at here is years of lots of research and behaviour and motion that is translating into the real world. finally, it is the mechanical engineering aspect. we have some proprietary technology that allows the robots to move like this. great, thank you so much. a man who wants to take over the world, but before we go, because we have this amazing routine taking place, we didn't want just you lot to see it, so earlier today they had a little activity outside the bbc building. take a look at this. music plays. give it up one more time for silas and the mekamon robots.
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music plays. give it up one more time for silas and the mekamon robots. hands up if you own a phone. hands up if you have a phone with you. 0k, keep your hands up if you have a camera on the phone. yes, pretty much everyone, of course. i would say the average phone photo has about 8 or 10 or 12 million pixels in it. so it is about a 12—megapixel camera. but, what would happen if you had more megapixels in your image? well, maybe you could do this. and it could zoom in — this is new york we are looking at — and you can zoom in, and you can zoom in. this is an image not
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with a million or so pixels, but a billion. it was created by a device called a gigapan, which takes lots of zoomed—in shots like this in stitches them together. it's one massive image of a billion pixels. but what would you do if you had a device that could take a billion—pixel image in one go? well, obviously you would put it in space. and that's what our next guests have done. from the institute of astronomy at the university of cambridge, please welcome dr giorgia busso and dr anna hourihane. so, um, this is the gaia satellite currently in space. this is a model of it. yes, that's gaia. it's a space telescope. it's one of the cornerstone missions of the european space agency. and, as you say, that's a model. the real one is ten times bigger. what have you been trying to find out using gaia? well, with gaia we're trying to discover the the shape of our galaxy and how it formed. and we need gaia's measurements to pinpoint exactly where the stars are and what the structure is.
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for example, how many spiral arms there are in our galaxy. it's crazy, isn't it, when you think about it. i grew up thinking that we knew that the milky way was a spiral with two arms. but what you're saying is, of course, we don't actually know because we're in it. we just think we know. exactly. so what kind of things is gaia measuring then? gaia is repeatedly scanning the sky and it's taking images at different times. and then, with these, by processing these images with a very complicated software system we can figure out how far away the stars are and how they move and with that we build up a map of the sky. it's basically like google maps for the galaxy. and you've made some remarkable discoveries already, haven't you? yes. one thing we recently discovered is that the milky way was involved in a head—on collision with another galaxy early in its lifetime, about 10 billion years ago. we see that the stars are on these and elongated kind of sausage shaped orbits that show they've come from another galaxy. for that reason, the galaxy that crashed into us is named the sausage galaxy. they've called it
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the sausage galaxy. would you please thank georgia and anna. that was fascinating. thank you very much. applause. camera clicking. and what show is complete without a cheeky selfie? if you were there, well, see if you can spot yourself here. three, two, one, there we go. camera clicking. so i have a background in technology and magic. and magicians are interesting. their allusions accomplish what technology cannot. but what happens when the technology of the day seems almost magical? what happens when you can do this? now, 100 years ago that would have been the magic of levitation. now, is it possible to create illusions in a world where technology makes anything possible?
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jump. now, 100 years ago that would have been the magic of levitation. now, is it possible to create illusions in a world where technology makes anything possible? jump. now, if you know how the trick is done, where is the illusion? but still, our imagination is more powerful than our reasoning. and it's easy to a tribute personality to machines. these are quadcopters. but they are more than mechanicalflying machines. they analyse the environment around them and react to everything i do. advanced algorithms allow these autonomous machines to fly in close formation, aware of each
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other, aware of me. mathematics that can be mistaken for intelligence. and intelligence for personality. anthropomorphism — that's the illusion. an illusion created by technology and embroidered by our imagination to become an intelligent flying robot, a machine that appears to be alive. i think they say hello. hey, guys. that's it. all right. time to go home. come on, everybody. right over here. there you go. everybody, come on. you can fit in there. go on. there you go. everybody, no pushing, no pushing over there. everybody, there you go. marco, you said you were a magician as well as a technologist. how much of that was an illusion? there was a little bit of trickery involved.
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so they're not really following my gestures or my commands. they're preprogrammed. and the way they work is to have tiny little cameras inside them and they track that pattern on this magic carpet we see around the stage. 0h, magic carpet! that is how they self—localise know where to go. say a big thank you to marco tempest. thank you, everybody. thank you. applause. after almost seven months and 350 million miles, nasa's insight finally entered the martian atmosphere in november this year. what followed was seven minutes of terror — before touchdown. it is only the eighth time that nasa has successfully landed on the surface of mars and follows on the footsteps, so to speak, of rovers like opportunity and curiosity. rovers that have helped to radically change our perception and knowledge of the red planet over the last 15 years. and we were lucky enough
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to have a member of nasa's jet propulsion lab with us to speak on all things martian. what have we learned over that course of time that wasn't apparent when first landed ? well, we have learned that there was a lot more water than we originally thought and it is much closer to the surface than we had thought. so if we were to send humans there at some point we would be able to extract that water, turn it into energy, turn it into drinkable water, and be able to establish a habitat. so finding the water was, of course, a huge moment. what are the exciting moments have you had more recently? the most recent discovery on the curiosity mission is the discovery of ancient organics, right. what this means is that we have discovered methane—like products, which means it could have potentially been hospitable for life on mars at some point in the distant past and maybe at some point in the not so distant future. nasa has also been hoping to educate people about its work on mars, using the virtual augmented reality.
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i am going to turn on the app. select all the mars missions. we've got curiosity here and insight, of course. get all the good feel about what the spacecraft looks like. take a picture and selfie with it. it's a great time learning about the spacecraft. so some of the details we are looking at, what are the parts and it they go wrong, you can't send it to fix it? you're right. if anything breaks we cannot send a repairman. so we have to make sure everything is triple redundant. absolutely fascinating stuff. victor, thank you very much. ai. that's what the future's about, if you believe the hype. computer programmes that learn from past experience, that improve, and that sometimes learn to solve problems in ways that even we hadn't thought of. it's learning to drive, to play games, it's learnt to paint, it's learnt to understand what we say. and it is certainly true that al
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is already replacing us in particularjobs. now, for many that thought is quite a scary prospect. not, though, for sachin duggal, who runs a company that uses ai to help design apps. we've created a platform that allows anyone to build software. so when you think about the thousands of applications, hundreds of thousands, the millions of applications out there, they all have common building blocks. how many people have an app that uses facebook? how many people have more than one app that uses facebook? and yet when yo're building software people are rewriting the same thing again and again. so we said, well, that
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doesn't make any sense, why don't we do it like cars, you know, where we have these common building blocks, you can use them again and again, and it means we can build it faster, cheaper, and better. and you want anyone to be able to build an app, even if they can't code. that's the idea, isn't it? right. and if you think about the fact that everyone in this room must have had an idea. so what we found is 90% of people who have an idea don't even go past the stage of an idea, because it seems overwhelming. we're so much cheaper and so much faster because we're just using the code once and machines are basically finding where this has been done before, pulling it out of a library, putting it together, going to 32,000 people around the world, seeing who is available, choosing people for an hour a day or a week and putting it together. so, i mean, what's weird is we talk about some jobs possibly being replaced by ai, but i would imagine there are computer programmers in here and students who would like to be computer programmers for the next 20 or 30 years, and i guess they thought they were safe from the ai revolution, but what we're saying here is that even those jobs are not safe from al?
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and, again, i think it's nuance, right. so what you think students should be studying at college now? are they studying the right things or those things going to be replaced? if i'm slightly controversial i would say the whole idea of stem and learning to code and that becomes like this overarching thing and everybody‘s gonna become a developer, ifeel like that's so oversold. why do you need to be able to be in the digital economy, you know, build ideas, build software, why do you have to learn how to code? you should be taught how to be creative. how to think about product, how to think about problems that need solving, whether it's at a micro level or a macro level. and that's a much more important. sachin duggal, everyone. thank you very much. thank you so much. thank you. and a click live show wouldn't be a click live show without some lasers and a game that involves lots and lots of applause. well, you've gotta get it somewhere, haven't you? three, two, one — go! being chucked off stage. a fitting end if ever there was one. all that remains is to thank
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everyone who turned up to see us live and, of course, you at home for watching. all: goodbye! good morning.
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welcome to breakfast with rogerjohnson and naga munchetty. 0ur headlines today. named in the new year honours list — the british divers who rescued young footballers from a cave in thailand and emergency workers at the manchester and london terror attacks. leading figures from the world of entertainment and sport, including alistair cook, michael palin and twiggy, are also recognised. the nicest shock in the world. who wouldn't want to be dame twiggy? the immigration minister is to visit dover today amid mounting concern about the number of migrants crossing the channel in small boats.
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