good morning, welcome to breakfast with tina daheley and charlie stayt. our headlines today... the breaking news in the past hour: police have arrested a man on suspicion of murder after a passenger was stabbed to death on a train in surrey in front of his 14—year—old son. the two men were involved in a verbal discussion. that discussion lasted 3—4 minutes. it through one carriage where they first boarded into another carriage. that argument escalated to the unprovoked, violent attack which sadly resulted in the death. five teenage girls have died in a fire at an escape room attraction in poland. after a summer of chaos, ryanair is named the uk's least—liked short—haul airline for the sixth year running. mountaineers warn of the risks of winter—climbing following two deaths in a fortnight on ben nevis. tottenham kick off third round weekend in the fa cup

with a thumping 7—0 win over league two tranmere. ona on a cloudy but quietly started the weekend, although the details coming shortly. —— cloudy but quiet start to the weekend. good morning. it's saturday the 5th of january. police investigating the stabbing to death of a man on a train in surrey say they have arrested the man who they believe is their main suspect. a 51—year—old man was killed on the journey from guildford to london yesterday. officers say they're providing his 14—year—old son who witnessed the incident with "as much support as possible". just after seven, assistant chief constable sean o'callaghan from british transport police gave us this update. i can confirm in the last one hour we have arrested who we believe to be the suspect in relation to this violent offence and another person involved as well.

those arrests have taken place in an address in the surrey area this morning. we are still appealing for witnesses to come forward and help us but it is very early days in relation to the investigation. there was a number of enquiries, the detectives, british transport police and other forces have assisted us throughout the night. the enquiries have been ongoing, we looked at cctv. are you seeking anyone else? not at this moment in time, we are confident that the arrests we have made this morning and will continue with that investigation throughout this morning. can you take us through it? we know at the moment both the men boarded the train at guildford towards london. we now know the two men were involved in a verbal discussion. that lasted 3—4 minutes.

it moved through one carriage from where they first boarded into another carriage and that argument escalated to the unprovoked, violent attack which sadly resulted in the death. let's talk to our reporter simon jones, who's outside horsley station where the train came to a stop yesterday. news of the two arrests but a slightly clearer picture of the sequence slightly clearer picture of the sequence of events? police are describing this as a fast—moving investigation. the arrests were made in the final area at around six this morning. around 20 miles from the station. a man arrested on suspicion of murder, a 27—year—old woman arrested on suspicion of assisting an offender. cctv at the stations

have built a clearer picture of events. they still believe the victim and suspect did not know each other. once they both got onto a train at guildford, some sort of argument broke out that lasted several minutes, moving from one courage to another. the stabbing, police described it as an extraordinary level of violence. —— one carriage to another. the 14—year—old son who witnessed the attack is being supported by police as best they can. traumatic for those on the train. police still wa nt to those on the train. police still want to hear from anyone on board, whether or not they saw the moment of the stabbing. many people will have seen the altercation in one of the carriages before it moved onto the carriages before it moved onto the next. police want to also hear from anyone who might have dashboard camera footage from around 1pm yesterday afternoon. more police

activity at the station this morning. a couple of police cars have arrived, a police officer on the platform behind me. police are keen to stress despite these awful events what happened here was extremely rare. one violent incidents per1 million passenger journeys, they say. they understand people will be concerned particularly because they seem to be an attack involving two people who did not know each other before it happened. extra staff like the person on the platform behind me to provide extra assurance. the two arrests and police pleased with the way this is going but they still very much want to hear from more witnesses. five teenage girls have died in a fire at an escape room venue in poland. the girls, all 15 years old, had been celebrating a birthday party. escape games involve players finding clues and solving puzzles to make their way out of a locked room. this report from monika plaha

has flashing images. what was meant to be a birthday celebration amongst friends turned into an evening of horror. the emergency services were called to this escape room on friday evening after a fire broke out at around 5pm. five girls, all aged 15, locked in a room as part of the game, were all killed in the blaze. a 25—year—old man was seriously injured. the incident happened in poland's northern city of koszalin. its mayor has declared sunday as a day of mourning. officials say they are inspecting over 1000 escape rooms across the country. translation: from tomorrow, all escape rooms, game centres and clubs will undergo fire safety inspections, with special attention paid to evacuation plans, escape routes in this type of location. there should be a moderator in each location able to unlock the rooms and let people out. we will check this and it will be strictly controlled. poland's president reacted

to the news on twitter, writing it was a devastating tragedy that five joyful girls have had life torn away from them. the cause of the fire is not yet known but polish authorities say they will continue to investigate what caused this tragedy. a man has been shot dead by armed officers at an address in coventry. west midlands police said that two more men were arrested at the scene, on burnaby road in the north of the city, which remains cordoned off. they have described their operation in the area as "intelligence—led". the incident, which took place at around 6.20 yesterday evening, has been referred to the watchdog the independent office for police conduct. the man was pronounced dead at the scene. smokers and problem drinkers who are admitted to hospital in england will be given help to cut down or quit. the measures are part of a new long—term plan aimed at reducing demand on the health service. nhs england says problem drinkers

and smokers cost the health service £6 billion every year. donald trump says that the partial us government shutdown — now entering its third week — could last months or even years. democrats are refusing to agree to the funding the president needs to fulfill his promise of building a wall on the border with mexico. officials from the white house and congress will meet again this afternoon in a further attempt to end the budget row. ryanair has been voted the worst short—haul airline for the sixth year running, in a survey by the consumer group which?. the airline had to cancel scores of flights last summer because of a series of strikes. ryanair has called the research "irrelevant" because it says it's carrying more passengers than ever. police have confirmed that a climber who died on ben nevis on new year's day was a 21—year—old student from germany. she was in the uk studying at bristol university. another climber — patrick boothroyd from west yorkshire — died on the mountain in december.

mountaineering experts are warning of the dangers of winter climbing. it is nine minutes past nine. for new year's day lottery winners frances and patrick connolly from county down, they have some big decisions to make — what to do with £115 million. life changing. we will be joined life changing. we will bejoined in just a moment by a senior adviser, andy carter, who has spent the last two days with the winning couple. there was a little box came up and each of the numbers was ticked. i thought, hm, so ijust turned the computer round to her... and said, i think i've got some good news for you. and i could see the lottery

ticket up and i thought, it must be more than £2.60. would you say you are regular lotto players? yeah. is that going to continue? he said to me last night, have you checked the numbers? laughter. they did say we were the fourth biggest winner. i mean, we have to be the biggest. it is a challenge. at the minute, we have it on direct debit. we never really thought about cancelling. we never thought about it. what about personal security, that will be an issue for you? oh, my god. will it? with that kind of money, i would imagine so. i've never met anyone i wouldn't take down myself! laughter. applause. we'rejoined by senior advisor andy carter who has spent the last two days with the winning couple. take us through exactly what has

happened, your contact with the couple and the advice you have given them. a long two days, a great two days. the draw was the 1st of january, they discovered they had w011 january, they discovered they had won £150 million that very night. they called us first thing this morning —— that next morning. lots of conversations with them since i met them. the win for them is about friendship and family. charity and community. they will do a lot of good. ourjob is to make sure they have support from now for as long as they need it. what advice do you give them? first, take your time, they need it. what advice do you give them? first, take yourtime, do nothing quickly. let it all sink in. they both like a plan. frances in particular likes a plan and they see

it isa particular likes a plan and they see it is a big project. they will meet other lottery winners who understand what they are going through. community of lottery winners, if you like. you have the most extraordinary job, like. you have the most extraordinaryjob, meeting like. you have the most extraordinary job, meeting and advising lottery winners in the immediate aftermath. what are they like as a couple, how did you get on with them? what do you make of their decisions? they are fantastic, very warm, they welcomed me and my colleague into their home. i spoke to frances the day before several times. she was out and about. she said, iam times. she was out and about. she said, i am in sainsbury is buying food for you because no one comes into my house without being fed. they have gone through a roller—coaster of emotions. when the ticket was validated and everything

went through, the enormity of the win, the potential of what they could do, sunk in. and the decision to go public? a big decision for every winner. their personal decision. we talk to them about different ways of doing it. not right for everyone but it is a huge amount of money. they want to help a lot of people. their family is everything to them, their friends are everything to them, their friends a re really everything to them, their friends are really important. the community where they live. and lots of charitable staff. for them to do that, to help tell the story, 150 million —— 100 £15 million is a big amounted to hide. —— 115 million. giving money to 50 of their closest friends? friends and family. everyone writes a list. everyone

plays the game, what would they do if they won money on the lottery? it is early days. i know the friends and family thing is important. patrick has spoken about being involved in local businesses in northern ireland, perhaps creating somejobs for people, northern ireland, perhaps creating some jobs for people, and northern ireland, perhaps creating somejobs for people, and perhaps charitable staff. they want to go travelling as well. and making sure their children are set up. early days but a lifetime to spend all that money. and extraordinary art. thank you, andy. —— extraordinary amount. you're watching breakfast from bbc news. the headlines... police say they have arrested a man on suspicion of murder, after a passenger was stabbed to death on a train yesterday. five teenage girls die in a fire in poland after getting trapped in an escape room venue. here's louise with a look at this morning's weather.

not too bad a start to the year. beautiful start in parts of devon. aberdeenshire, lovely start. most of us aberdeenshire, lovely start. most of us have a cloudy, great picture. the high pressure staying with us so for this january. drifting further south, consequences into next week. allowing a weather front to push this weekend. a week weather front. cloud around this morning. the cloud may well thin and break but the

emphasis is with the cloudy story. milder further west. emphasis is with the cloudy story. milderfurther west. 7—9. a cool feel on exposed coasts. the weather front pushing in. showery outbreaks of rain into scotland and northern ireland but weakening substantially. with all the cloud, temperature in the yellows and greens. not likely to see a cold and frosty start but a cloudy, grey start for many. the weather front moves into the north of england. lighter conditions behind it. 7—9 in scotland, 7—11 further south. the deep area of low pressure moving out of iceland, drifting east, isobars squeezing together. the wind will swing to a

north—west colder area, some rain, some heavy for a time. just south 50-60 some heavy for a time. just south 50—60 mph and more in scotland. not a pleasant start to the working week. higher values of 8—10 on monday. quiet across much of england and wales. monday into tuesday and wednesday, north—west of the interesting because driving in colder area yet again. showers turning wintry into the far north over the next couple of days. colder air, taking its time arriving in england and wales. 7—9 on tuesday. again, chilly. but if we get more sunshine, i will take chilly and sunny any day. have you had an accident in the last

five years that wasn't your fault? it's notjust a question you hear during daytime tv ad breaks, but also when you apply for car insurance. and if you answer yes, you may see an increase in your premium. that's because the insurance industry says you're statistically more likely to claim in the future — even if the previous incident wasn't your fault. paul lewis from radio 4's moneybox programme can tell us more. explain for us. maybe you have had an accident, nothing to do with you, wasn't your fault, and yet dart a listener called ruth was driving on the motorway, m25, car across two lanes by a lorry. she claimed on her insurance, admiral her insurer told

her. she was shaken up. she still finds it difficult to drive on motorways. renewing her premium, her policy, the price went up on £300 per year to £776 per year. part of that we have learned is due to the fa ct that we have learned is due to the fact she had made a claim that was not her fault. the lorry driver admitted it, his insurer. but she still had the penalty as she sees it on the premium. why? why is that 0k? someone has hit you, you have done nothing wrong but your premium goes 7 nothing wrong but your premium goes up? what admiral say and the industry have said to us is what you mention in your introduction. statistically, in terms of claims, people who have had a crime even if it was not their fault are more likely to make another claim. ——

people who have had a claim. there we re people who have had a claim. there were delays with getting money from the insurer but admiral says her premium would more than double because she had claims that were not herfault in the because she had claims that were not her fault in the past. they say that isa her fault in the past. they say that is a statistical matter. you might driving more dangerous places than other people. that is used as she seesit other people. that is used as she sees it to punish her because she was hit by a lorry on the motorway. wise words, which wise words from paul lewis? you get to this question on the form when applying for insurance, be honest. if you are not, the insurance will probably be invalidated when you try to make a claim. that will put up your premium. the only advice is to go to an insurance broker, explained the situation to them, you can find one

from the british insurers association website. most of us go online, find the cheapest, that may not be in many cases the best thing to do. get specialist advice. but you have to admit to it. for most people, very unfair, have an accident that is completely not your fault but the insurance industry will wrap up your premium. the best premium roof and was just about double the £300 she paid. i have to say, admiral have said they made mistakes, they are having a formal investigation as to why her premium was quite a hack and they have given her £250 and a bunch of flowers. they are admitting some problem on their side but the principle stands. if you have had an accident that wasn't your for, your premium will rise. you're watching

breakfast from bbc news, time now for a look at the newspapers. margaret doyle, a financial analyst with deloitte is here to tell us what's caught her eye. andrew roberts in defence of cromwell. the man who saved england from tyranny. turning around a bust of oliver cromwell to face the wall, this man was accused. stephen pound has long said oliver cromwell was a tyra nt has long said oliver cromwell was a tyrant in fact. guilty of war crimes and religious persecution. interesting to say he is the man who saved england from tyranny because in ireland cromwell is known as a

tyrant, the sacking of wexford. i came yesterday from wexford. interesting to see. we are re—evaluating cecil rhodes and other historicalfigures. whether re—evaluating cecil rhodes and other historical figures. whether the statue should come down. huge controversy statue should come down. huge c0 ntrove rsy over statue should come down. huge controversy over oliver cromwell‘s legacy in ireland. cromwell himself said we should not kill any civilians but civilians were killed. cromwell did not stop it, did not punish the perpetrators. while i think people would say that was cromwell‘s intention, but his record on tyranny is... people have two attitudes. they might think, come on, get on with what is happening today or think, these things are important to come to conclusions about what people were and were not.

no question cromwell‘s legacy is a mixed one. to say this is a cheap political point about the ill treatment of catholic irishman... they may seem cruel and unjustified now. . . they may seem cruel and unjustified now... his record is not one... cromwell himself rules without parliament. he replaced one to crack and ruled as an autocrat himself. the year and now, the nhs. the problem with finances and whatever, this is a story about what do you do if someone is in the nhs system and isa if someone is in the nhs system and is a drinker or if someone is in the nhs system and isa drinker ora if someone is in the nhs system and is a drinker or a smoker. the new plan, to be unveiled next week, doctors are going to be asked to identify problem drinkers or smokers and they will be recommended to get treatment. i think this is a sensible move. we think of a

emergency rooms and trauma surgery, thatis emergency rooms and trauma surgery, that is the glamorous side of the nhs. you don't have tv programmes made about public health. but things like smoking, drinking, exercise, they are the things over the long term which cause huge amounts of illness, distress. and cost the nhs a lot of money. the head of public health england said, actually, this is what will help the nhs remain sustainable. we know the nhs costs more and more as people live longer. actually, if we do this, he said if we do this, it will prevent 50,000 admissions... if it works, it is a cheap way... i was looking for a number attached to it. this is what the shadow health spokesman has said, a carter alcohol, addiction

services, community smoking cessation services. you will need to put money on it, he said. and we should not pressure smokers to quit, especially if they are in hospital for non—smoking related reasons. we are all paying for the nhs so this isa are all paying for the nhs so this is a way of preventing the expensive and painful diseases. the point is, treating it beforehand might save money later on down the line? again, the financial times. talking about two cases. england is known as the divorce capital of the world. for the rich and for people with international lives. because people will get lucrative settlements? for those people with an access of money, the english courts have attended to award only 50—50 basis. often rewards for life. a

financially independent spouse, often the wife, the court will say, you, the breadwinner, has got to pay maintenance for the rest of your life. the assumption that the woman would not go out to work afterwards. this is talking about a couple of recent cases where the courts are saying, we are going to limit the number of years. this is not going to be an award for life. we will expect you to earn a living, written to the workforce. a shift in the traditional way in which english divorce settlements are made. to be financially weaker spouse, you are basically saying, get a job. will there be a change? try to change the law so there is a cap. in scotland and other european countries, there isa cap and other european countries, there is a cap on maintenance payments and how long they last. leaving the judiciary with the degree of

flexibility they have now. they have a lot in terms of, this is how we think it should be divided. the downside, couples go to court and end up fighting and it ends up being expensive, long, drawn—outand painful. our time is up. do you still use your landline? yes! i do use it. rarely, of course. broadband often use it. rarely, of course. broadband ofte n co m es use it. rarely, of course. broadband often comes with the landline so you buy the whole package together. it does surprise me how many people no longer have a landline. does surprise me how many people no longer have a landlinelj does surprise me how many people no longer have a landline. i don't. don't need it. maybe it is a sign of your youth, in fact. i will take that. is the number up for telephone landlines? we'll be discussing how new habits are ringing the changes for devices like these. stay with us, headlines coming up. hello, this is breakfast with charlie stayt and tina daheley. coming up before ten, we'll get the weather with louise.

but first, a summary of this morning's main news. police investigating the stabbing to death of a man on a train in surrey say they have arrested the man who they believe is their main suspect. two arrests were made at around six o'clock this morning in the farnham area — a 27—year—old woman was detained on suspicion of assisting an offender. a 51—year—old man was killed on the journey from guildford to london yesterday. officers say they're providing his 14—year—old son who witnessed the incident with "as much support as possible". assistant chief constable sean o'callaghan gave us this update just after seven o'clock this morning. i can confirm this morning that in the last hour, we have arrested who we believe to be the suspect in relation to this violent offence, and also another person involved as well. and those arrests have taken place in an address in the surrey area this morning. we are still appealing for the witnesses in this crime

to come forward and to help us, but it is still very early days in relation to this investigation at this moment in time. let's talk to our reporter simonjones who's outside horsley station where the train came to a stop yesterday. significant developments this morning. can you take us through what we know now? yes, police and describing this as a fast—moving investigation. at six o'clock this morning they made two arrests in the farm area. a man was arrested on suspicion of murder and 27—year—old woman arrested on suspicion of assisting an offender. also have from police a bit more detail about what they believe happened. they say that after the two men got onto the train in guildford, there was then an altercation which lasted for

around three to four minutes, so they do not think this was a random attack. they say that the argument went from one cabbage to another, then resulted in what we're calling an extraordinary level of violence. the 51—year—old father stabbed to death in front of his 14—year—old son, who is being given support from the police and his family. police wa nt to the police and his family. police want to hear from anyone who was travelling on the train, whether or not they saw the attack, because many have people would have seen the altercation that led up to it. we are told that a0 officers are involved in the investigation, still looking for the weapon used to carry out the stabbing. police are so far pleased about the investigation this is taking. five teenage girls have died in a fire at an escape

room venue in poland. the girls, all 15 years old, had been celebrating a birthday. escape games involve players finding clues and solving puzzles to make their way out of a locked room. the polish president has described the fire as an appalling tragedy. a man has been shot dead by armed officers at an address in coventry. west midlands police said that two more men were arrested at the scene, on burnaby road in the north of the city. the incident, which took place at around 6.20 yesterday evening, has been referred to the watchdog the independent office for police conduct. smokers and problem drinkers who are admitted to hospital in england will be given help to cut down or quit. the measures are part of a new long—term plan aimed at reducing demand on the health service. nhs england says problem drinkers and smokers cost the health service £6 billion every year. police in california say they are responding to a shooting

with "multiple victims" at a bowling alley near los angeles. the torrance police department has urged people to stay away from the area. torrance is a coastal city located around 20 miles south—east of los angeles. donald trump says that the partial us government shutdown — now entering its third week — could last months or even years. democrats are refusing to agree to the funding the president needs to fulfil his promise of building a wall on the border with mexico. officials from the white house and congress will meet again this afternoon in a further attempt to end the budget row. ryanair has been voted the worst short—haul airline for the sixth year running, in a survey by the consumer group which. the airline had to cancel scores of flights last summer because of a series of strikes. ryanair has called the research ‘irrelevant‘ because it says it's carrying more passengers than ever. police have confirmed that a climber who died on ben nevis on new year's day was a 21—year—old student from germany. she was in the uk studying at bristol university. another climber — patrick boothroyd

from west yorkshire — died on the mountain in december. mountaineering experts are warning of the dangers of winter climbing. those are the main stories this morning. time to get some sport withjohn. last night, tranmere rovers were playing spurs. they were 6—0 down, and the last man you want to see came on, harry kane. and he scored. 7-0. a came on, harry kane. and he scored. 7—0. a spirited effort. it was a lwa ys 7—0. a spirited effort. it was always going to be hard against high—flying tottenham, but we could see more upsets potentially this weekend. are still went out at this stage last year. —— arsenal went out. 32 ties across the weekend, 22 today. there was to be no upset for league

two tranmere who were beaten 7—0 by high flying tottenham. sports correspondent natalie pirks was watching. friday night lights at prenton park, league two tranmere's fans were up for this one. the big boys were in town, spurs may be title contenders but they haven't won the fa cup for 28 years but one mistake was all that spurs needed to pounce. there would be no giant—killing, in fact it was about to get a whole lot worse for tranmere. three goals in nine minutes saw spurs go a—0 up, heung—min son in irresistible form. their sixth was also fernando llorente's hat—trick. he takes the match ball home. there was only one thing for spurs to do, of course, bring on harry kane. talk about adding insult to injury. here's harry kane. and he doesn't miss those. 7a league places separated the sides, seven goals showed a chasm in class on a night where spurs turned on the style. natalie pirks, bbc news.

holders chelsea play nottingham forest — the team who knocked out arsenal at this stage last year. everton play league two lincoln who had that incredible run to the quarter finals a couple of years ago. that turned around £2.5 million. that turned around £2.5 million. that is what the fa cup is about for a lower league sides. the full list of matches is on the bbc sport website. they might have lost, but saracens still managed to move top of the premiership following their 2a—18 defeat at sale. sarries were leading early—on after a try from england's billy vunipola but denny solomona set sale on the comeback, touching down just before the break. nick tompkins's late try for saracens gave them the losing bonus point that took them ahead of exeter. exeter play later on. netball‘s superleague season starts today with all five matches played back to back at the birmingham arena. it kicks off a huge year for the sport with the world cup to come in liverpool injuly.

england coach tracey neville was there. just to start the season, it is at one venue, just to start the season, it is at one venue, enables all the fans to interact, it enables all the best players to be onshore. it also increases the fan base, bringing together six to 10,000 people in one venue, butjust giving them the highlight of what they can expect this season, and there has obviously been some changes to the team. if you got a chess set for christmas, and perhaps also want a work—out that's a bit more physical as well as mental, this could be for you. the underwater chess championships will be back in the uk later this year. mike's been to give it a go — but be warned that you need specialist equipment to play this

ancient game with a modern twist. take a magnetic chessboard with weighted pieces, sink it to the bottom of a swimming pool, and you have made the great mind game of chess an intense physical challenge as well. so the board is set, 1.2 metres down underwater. to work out what we are doing we have to go down with our goggles on. eaton's got the first move. off he goes. probably moving the pawn first — or maybe the knight. once he comes up i can pop down and find out. at first it might leave you scratching your head, as you try to work out what's going on below and ponder your next move.

it's extremely physical, both improving your breath, knowing how to exhale and get close to the board. your body tends to naturally float. that's very difficult to do. once you've played several long game is underwater it also gets cold so you do some around a warm—up your blood circulation. it is extremely physically taxing. oh, that is a terrible move. i panicked! he has got his bishop on the go down there. it's all out the window. the goggles are steaming up. i'm trying too think too quickly. i felt under pressure. that's the hardest thing, you've got limited time down there. i should have followed erica's lead, she uses weights to help stay under for what seemed like an extraordinary amount of time. on average, 55 seconds, one minute or two minute, independent of the move. sometimes the move it is right away

and sometimes you need think a little longer. the element of surprise could also be a tactic to leave your opponent breathless. the strategy changes dramatically. for example, sometimes you might actually come up with a tactical sequence and then decide to play really quickly, just to avoid giving your opponent time to catch their breath. maybe wearing a fish hat is the secret. it worked for the current world champion, who left all before him floundering. i am proud to be world champion at anything. what a great thing, diving chess world champion. it is completely bonkers, but first and foremost it's fun. back in my my match i'd lost key pieces and soon had nowhere to go. you have got me. checkmate. i tell you what, physically exhausting. i feel like i've swum about 20 lengths in about half—an—hour. i was like my king at the end of the game, exhausted and ready for a lie down. mike bushell, bbc news, in a pool in london. bizarre. how into star you in the

underwater chess malarkey? i'm intrigued. i don't know how good it would be of a spectator sport. don't be dismissive, there is a world champion in it! the headlines. police say they have arrested a man on suspicion of murder, after a passenger was stabbed to death on a train yesterday. five teenage girls die in a fire in poland after getting trapped in an escape room venue. it is the weekend, and louise can

tell us if it is a weekend for getting out and about. line good morning, yes, it is. a lot of dry weather. full of contradictions. a little milder across the country, but we have cold spots, and in devon, despite it being a beautiful start, temperatures are down to 6 degrees. another lovely picture from one of our weather watchers, from aberdeen. we still have high pressure, so it is still a house —— high—pressure story. it then is killed off when it bumps into the low—pressure. for the next few hours we keep cloud with us, and by the rest of the afternoon it stays dull. if we're going to see some breaks it will be east of the pennines, but generally it will be called across

the east, a little milderfurther west, 7—9, because the wind direction ahead of this front is coming westerly. we will see the front moving through, bringing showery outbreaks of rain to scotla nd showery outbreaks of rain to scotland tonight, but with all the cloud around, temperatures will stay above freezing. we have lost the blue colours, so there won't be frost. the weather fronts it's behind the cloud, and temperatures will peak between seven and 11 degrees. we will see more significant change on sunday, and along that southern flank the isobars will get closer. the wet

weather will moving across northern ireland into north wales during the day. cloudy skies, but largely quiet with high temperatures of 8—10d. we will see a difference in the feel of the weather due to the wind direction. swinging to north—westerly. a colder field tuesday into wednesday, and any showers and scotland will be more wintry in nature. on tuesday, temperatures seven to 9 degrees. wednesday will feel noticeably colder, through the middle of the week. a little mr algerfor a little mr alger for you now. maybe

it is the sound. —— a little bit of nostalgia. see how long it used to take? with more and more people using mobile phones, internet video, and smart speakers to make calls, landlines could soon become a distant memory. these are some of the devices that used to grace telephone tables across britain. but new research suggests that not only are many people no longer using them, some of us don't even know what an area code is. with us now is professor nigel linge from the university of salford. thank you for bringing these. you're welcome. some people will remember those, or still use them. they still work on a moderate landline. fewer and fewer people are using

landlines. fewer people are using landlines. fewer people are using landlines for telephone calls, but let's not forget that landline is essential for broadband because let's not forget that landline is essentialfor broadband because it is the broadband routers in the home connected to the landline which gives you internet access, so we may not be using a telephone like that, but we are putting broadband routers on the end of the landline, which gives as the internet. if you're like me, i have the connections for the internet, but i do not use the actual landline. there are about 1596 of uk homes like that. when we got landlines like that telephone there, you talked about area dialling codes. people didn't have a telephone. your house had a telephone. your house had a telephone and your house did not move around, so the location of the phone was reflected in the number.

people in manchester was 061, now it is 0161. when you got a mobile phone, that made it personal, and onceit phone, that made it personal, and once it is personal, it is with you, and you move around, so now the phone number does not have a location relevance, it is a personal releva nce, location relevance, it is a personal relevance, and that is a huge change in how we use technology. you have brought in some items. this is the early days mobile phone. that is the iconic brick phone. in 30 years we have gone from first—generation analog bricks like the one you're holding, a motorola, and later this year we launched the fifth generation of mobile phone technology, five generations in 3a yea rs. technology, five generations in 3a years. there is a curious kind of nostalgia about these things. if you

walked around using that, you would get more attention than some and getting a fancy one. imagine putting this in your handbag. the network on which this when operated close down a long time ago, and ironically, although most of us have more mobile phones than ever, there are more mobile phones than people, however that was designed for a purpose, and we're not using mobile phones for the purpose they were intended, making phone calls. the average use of a mobile phone has declined in terms of talking. people are using it for other things. internet searching, social media, and increasingly watching television and video. social media, and increasingly watching television and videolj social media, and increasingly watching television and video. i do not think it is extreme to see that a lot of young people are too scared to pick up the phone and speak to

people. in the research which came out with ofcom, they interviewed a lot of young people, and they said that if they need to talk or contact the company, if they offer an insta nt the company, if they offer an instant messaging option, i use that rather than speak to them. it is a fascinating observation on how youngsters use technology. let us go back to the 1980s, maureen lipman. hgppy happy birthday to you. happy birthday, dear grandma. # happy birthday to you. a voice like an angel.

congratulations on your exam results. but i failed. looking at these mobile phones, and this phone here, i'm going to state the obvious, this was here, and this went in front of your mouth, but they are much smaller now. part of your voice was played back into your ears, so your voice was played back into your ea rs, so you your voice was played back into your ears, so you did not shout. a lot of people shout on mobile phones and it has been suggested that because you do not get that feedback, you're compensating for that. a bit like wearing headphones, when you shout because you cannot get the natural feedback. that was done on those phones to stop you shouting. newscasters used to have telephones on their desk. i quite like that.

but maybe not on the cover. and you don't have to lift the handset any more. you just type numbers and press send. thank you for bringing along the props. now, we as the director, what are we going to do now? were going to talk about veganism. all this week we have been talking about vegans. it is the time of year people talk about what they eat, not necessarily going the full way to becoming a vegans, but thinking about it. with even high street bakeries catering for vegans, is it easier than ever to cut out meat and dairy? in the last of our series on meat free diets, breakfast'sjohn maguire has been shopping with two vegan chefs. so the big question, how easy,

how realistic is it to try and leave meat out of your diet, and become vegetarian or vegan? the answer — a lot easier than it was just a few years ago. boom, look at the ranges that are available. or should i say bosh. good morning to you. give us a couple of tips about shopping. we know it's easy. there are loads of vegan foods around the supermarket, from rice, to pasta. you're looking for milk and eggs and gelatin, avoiding them. taking the internet by storm with their advice on how to shop for and how to cook vegan food, henry and ian's youtube channel receives 26 million views a month. they have written the biggest—selling vegan cookbook ever. here we are in the kitchen, then, in your studio kitchen. fellas, what's cooking? we're going to make the big breakfast, which has got hash browns, mushrooms, tomatoes, but we're also going to give you a treat, which is our scrambled eggs, but it's vegan eggs.

and how do you make vegan scrambled eggs? we've developed a technique which uses two types of tofu, firm and silken. the silken gives it the smoothness of scrambled eggs, and the firm gives it the lumpiness, the texture. and there's one interesting ingredient. smell this. so what is it? this is black salt. it's a little bit sulphuric, it gives it that egginess. you're not using exotic or difficult to find things. it doesn't have to be expensive, it doesn't have to be difficult. nobody wants to go to a health food shop to get ingredient is not available in a supermarket. that looks great. eating with the eyes — a delicious vegan breakfast for you, made entirely from plants, but packed with flavour. desperate to try the scrambled egg.

let us know what you think. let me see. that is pretty good, isn't it? delicious. i think ithinki i think i believe him, i think he thought that was tasty. let's talk about this a bit more with geneticist dr giles yeo and comedian jessica fostekew, who've both tried vegan diets. jessica, first of all, what is your relationship with meat at the moment? i don't really eat it. that's quite simple. very occasionally in very extreme examples. earlier this year i met ashchev in newcastle who made things with parts of a pig that would otherwise have been thrown away by the butcher. —— i met a a chef. that was incredible, so it was the one insta nce was incredible, so it was the one instance this year. that was quite a

big leap! it would have to be very extreme circumstances now for me to eat meat. what extreme circumstances? well, like that. like an opportunity. are less moral example would be if i travelled somewhere in the world where i had never been before and would never go again under speciality involved as pa rt again under speciality involved as part of their culture was eating a specific thing, i would eat meat then. my journey was i did it for a month for a television programme to see if you could do it healthily, andl see if you could do it healthily, and i was a little afraid of it initially, but once i learned how to find the food and found that i didn't try to replace meat with something else, i cooked food that wasn't designed to have meat in it,

i found it was ok. john was doing scrambled egg, the vegans way. is that a problem trying to replace the meat? it can be a problem. the big supermarkets are trying to help that with people trying to do veganuary, so it is like pretend beef or pretend port, it looks similar, and we eat with our eyes and nose, not literally. but not necessarily healthier if you're eating processed vegan food. you can be a very unhealthy vegan, so it does not necessarily mean healthy.

unhealthy vegan, so it does not necessarily mean healthylj unhealthy vegan, so it does not necessarily mean healthy. i feel like i have to say, i had stomach issues my whole life, and within about three weeks of being com pletely about three weeks of being completely vegan at the start, when i was completely vegan, i felt amazing. that is a strong endorsement. did you find similar benefits? when i became vegan, at lunchtime, i have to cycle home after work, and because a lot of vegan takes longer to die i felt better, and i have therefore stuck to being vegan at lunchtime is. that is it for us. enjoy the rest of your saturday. —— a lot of vegan food ta kes saturday. —— a lot of vegan food takes longer to digester.

this is bbc news, i'm shaun ley. the headlines at ten. two people are arrested after the fatal stabbing on a train in surrey yesterday. police say the death appears to have a followed an altercation between strangers. in relation to what we know so far, it was not random in terms of their was no contact in terms of the two people before the incident. we know they were talking to people and that is all we know about the two men at this moment in time. —— talking to each other. newsjust coming in from california — police say they're dealing with a shooting at a bowling alley in torrance near los angeles. reports say there are multiple victims. smokers and problem drinkers admitted to hospital in england will get help to quit or cut down — to reduce demands on the health service.