this is bbc news, i'm shaun ley. the headlines at 11: two people are arrested after the fatal stabbing on a train in surrey yesterday. police say the death appears to have a followed an altercation between strangers. in relation to what we know so far in regard to happened, it is not random in the fact that there was no contact between the two people before the incident. we know that they were talking together. that's all we know about the two men at this moment in time. smokers and problem drinkers admitted to hospital in england will get help to quit or cut down — to reduce demands on the health service. five 15—year—old girls have been killed after a fire broke out in an escape room in northern poland. ryanair is voted the worst short—haul airline for the sixth year in a row — in a survey by the consumer group which. and as the us federal government shutdown continues, and apple blames its financial troubles on the chinese economy — join me and a panel of guests in half an hourfor dateline london. police investigating

the fatal stabbing of a man on a train in surrey yesterday say they have arrested the main suspect. the man was detained at an address in the farnham area at about six o'clock this morning on suspicion of murder. a 27—year—old woman was also arrested on suspicion of assisting an offender. the victim, a 51—year—old father, was killed in front of his 14—year—old son, in what police described as a "violent killing". the attack happened on the 12.58 service travelling between guildford and waterloo. police said the victim and his teenage son boarded the train at around 1pm at london road station. after the attack, the suspect left the train at clandon station. officers were then called to horsley station at 1.15pm to reports of a stabbing on a train. assistant chief constable

at british transport police, sean o'callaghan, told our reporter katharine da costa more about how the incident unfolded on the train. so clearly people will be very concerned about the style of the attack. what we know so far from the our inquiries both menjoined the train at guildford. straightaway there's been an altercation between the two men. they have continued that for about three to four minutes. first in one carriage and then have moved through to a second carriage. at some stage then violence has then ensued resulting in the tragic death of the man yesterday afternoon. of course he had his son with him, there would have been passengers on either of those carriages who would have seen it. how much information have you been able to get from eyewitnesss and the son? absolutely. well, as you can imagine, really, really tragic circumstances, the fact that a 14—year—old son has to witness what happened there today and of course our thoughts and feelings

are with the family in this case. we are supporting the 14—year—old son with expert, specialist trained officers at this time. in terms of witnesses and what we saw there, yes, we have been speaking to witnesses at the time and reviewing cctv images and that is what has assisted us and led to the arrest. our news correspondent james waterhouse was at horsley station, where police were first called about the attack, to give us more information about the suspects. well, we know that a male suspect was first arrested in a house in farnham about 20 miles from here. this is horsley station, where the alarm was first raised. the male suspect, he has been described as black and in his 20s or 30, was arrested alongside a 27—year—old woman on suspicion of helping an offender. and the focus now for police is finding the murder weapon itself. they're looking in both clandon where the suspect is believed to have got off the train,

which is a stop further down from guilford, as well as farnham ipts. at- guilford, as well as farnham ipts. at — itself. there is a police presence here. the line is open, but this investigation is waiting for no one. it is a disturbing attack, because of the circumstances that we have been told about, the presence of the teenage boy as his father was dying, the police must be concentrating on trying to reassure travellers about the safety on the railways 7 travellers about the safety on the railways? well quite. this is a hugely popular commuter route in and out of london from surrey, it is an affluent county. and there is a balance to be struck, they gave the statistic that this is a rare incident and attacks like this

happen in as few as one in a million journey. but passengers and customers are turning up as we speak, the 14—year—old boy is being given help, along with the family from specialist officers, this investigation, is moving at a rapid pace and you would imagine that police officers will be satisfied with the way it is going. another thing worth stressing is the police don't believe this attack to be terror—related. a man has been shot dead by armed officers at an address in coventry. west midlands police said that two more men were arrested at the scene, on burnaby road in the north of the city, which remains cordoned off. they have described their operation in the area as "intelligence—led". the incident has been referred to the watchdog the independent office for police conduct. the man was pronounced dead at the scene. smokers and problem drinkers who are admitted to hospital in england will be given help to cut down or quit. the measures are part of a new long—term plan

aimed at reducing demand on the health service. nhs england says problem drinkers and smokers cost the health service £6 billion every year. earlier i spoke to deborah arnott, chief executive of action on smoking and health — a health charity working to eliminate the harm caused by tobacco use. i asked her how this approach differs from previous ones. because it is about dedicated funding for services for smokers to six services in the nhs. historically there are community services provided through local authorities, which have had their budgets cut. this is meeting smokers at the point where they're most likely to change their behaviour, where they have been diagnosed with something. they can't reverse the damage, people might think suspect

it better to put the money into prevention. you need both. it will reduce bed pressure, smokers are five times more likely to get flu, thatis five times more likely to get flu, that is a major cause of winter bed pressure. in manchester there is a pilot where they reckon they will save ten million. and you know lung cancer, which is a terrible thing to be diagnosed with, 30% of people diagnose rd still smoking. if they quit smoking they can double their life expectancy. it also helps recovery. you talked about the cost benefit. the difficulty for these things, particularly in the pressures the nhs is under, is that it has to find the money up front and get the savings a few years down the line. that is the difficult thing to convince people of, to

invest money in the service up front to get savings that we think will come, but we can't deliver them now. a report hiding in plain sight, which what is this is based on, shows that the savings are in here. the savings on reduced admissions to hospital, and reduced readmissions and shortening of length of stay happen in year one. so its cost saving, not cost causing, even in year one. that is why the nhs is including this in the long—term plan. five teenage girls have died in a fire at an escape room venue in poland. the girls, all 15 years old, had been celebrating a birthday party. escape games involve players finding clues and solving puzzles to make their way out of a locked room. this report from monika plaha has flashing images. what was meant to be a birthday celebration amongst friends turned into an evening of horror. the emergency services were called to this escape room on friday evening after a fire broke out at around 5pm.

five girls, all aged 15, locked in a room as part of the game, were all killed in the blaze. a 25—year—old man was seriously injured. the incident happened in poland's northern city of koszalin. its mayor has declared sunday as a day of mourning. officials say they are inspecting over 1000 escape rooms across the country. translation: from tomorrow, all escape rooms, game centres and clubs will undergo fire safety inspections, with special attention paid to evacuation plans, escape routes in this type of location. there should be a moderator in each location able to unlock the rooms and let people out. we will check this and it will be strictly controlled. poland's president reacted to the news on twitter, writing it was a devastating tragedy that five joyful girls have had life torn away from them. the cause of the fire is not yet known but polish authorities say they will continue to investigate what caused this tragedy. ryanair has been voted

the worst short—haul airline for the sixth year running, in a survey by the consumer group which. the airline had to cancel scores of flights last summer because of a series of strikes. ryanair has called the research ‘irrelevant‘ because it says it's carrying more passengers than ever. here's our transport correspondent tom burridge. ryanair is by far europe's largest low—cost airline. but the consumer group which? said it was by far the worst rated short—haul airline in an annual survey. which? asked nearly 8000 of its members about recent experiences on 19 different airlines. which? said rya nair's overall score was dismal, with the airline was my reputation declining significantly over the past year. 2018 wasn't a good year for ryanair.

multiple strikes by its staff across europe meant huge disruption for hundreds of thousands of passengers over the summer. the airlines werejudged on criteria such as boarding, seating, customer service and value for money. thomas cook and wizz air also came out badly. easyjet was somewhere in the middle. and jet2 near the top. ryanair described in the ratings as irrelevant. it said it is now carried mi million passengers each year. an increase of 78% injust six years. police in california say three people have been shot dead at a bowling alley near los angeles. detectives say they are working to identify those involved in the shooting, in which four other people were injured. the torrance police department — attending the scene — said the investigation was ongoing and to avoid the area. some local reports suggest a fight broke out in the bowling alley before the shooting. the headlines on bbc news:

a male suspect is arrested following the murder of a man on a train in surrey yesterday. smokers and problem drinkers admitted to hospital in england will get help to quit or cut down — to reduce demands on the health service. police in california say three people have been shot dead at a bowling alley in torrance near los angeles. research by the telecoms regulator, ofcom, shows the amount of time people spend using a landline has halved over the past five years. the use of mobile data has rocketed during the same period — to almost two gigabytes per person per month. let's talk to andrew fergusson — a consumer telecoms expert at the news website think broadband. thank you for being with us on bbc news. these first perhaps are not surprising, but they're still

striking, because of the acceleration of this change? yes, i think it is going to accelerate more, because we have a generation of teenagers who are turning 18, 19, moving into their own homes and they're going to even accelerate this even more as that moves into the work place. presumably, if anyone it is a problem, it is a problem for bt, which inherited this from the post office when it was first privatised in the 80s, have they found a way of dealing with this, in terms of their business model? in terms of business model, there has been a slow shift happening and it is a case of line rental is the thing everyone hates to pay for, but we have to, because we wa nt to pay for, but we have to, because we want the broadband. and there has been a move to not talking about line rental, but just been a move to not talking about line rental, butjust the combined price. people are starting to forget

it. in terms of underlying, it is changing, one of the problems is the costs of making the call if you do make a telephone call over a landline is increasing and that is something ofcom will have to watch for the vulnerable. that is something, as the number of subscribers diminishes, they‘ re going to have to still be generating the same amount of revenue and the obvious way is to put up the prices for the people left behind? yes we have seen that people calling about call connection charges, it with be 90 pence for the first second of a call. it has gone up a lot. that idea is it encourages you to take the call bundles. it feels like a lifetime ago, i can remember go into a telephone box with phone

directories in it, so you could look up directories in it, so you could look up numbers, those things have gone, the phone directory that came through the door was a kind ofjust a couple of inches thick. what about the economics for people in the industry now, presumably the more calls that people are making over apps like what's app or skype or other technology, the fewer people that can make money out of this. this is the problem. skype and other apps so much of what you can do is free and there is the question mark about how they will make money, generally it is through advertising. there has been a backlash about all the tracking of people and so the advertising the industry that may go through a nexus point where it is, it has to back off and then may affect what is free and we may find some apps to get the best calls or they may want to start charging.

there is things that will change, we don't know what will happen. there isa don't know what will happen. there is a lot of business models around for the app industry and they're losing lots of money and they're hoping to make a lot later. the question is will later be 20 years' time or 15 months. how long do you give the domestic landline? we are due to switch off the traditional landline in 2025 and your telephone line will be plugged into your broad babd. —— broadband. that needs agreements from all the different companies. i would say the traditional landline we witness see it will see it disappear. more and more houses will have a fibre optic

cable. that should be the whole uk by 2033. thank you. fascinating changes coming whether we like them oi’ changes coming whether we like them or not. donald trump says that the partial us government shutdown — now entering its third week — could last months or even years. democrats are refusing to agree to the funding the president needs to fulfill his promise of building a wall on the border with mexico. officials from the white house and congress will meet again this afternoon in a further attempt to end the budget row. earlier we heard some analysis on this story from ryan heath — political editor at politico europe. it isa it is a gamble now, if you're a federal worker, you can turn up in the faith that you will eventually be paid for your hours. but there no guarantee that will happen. some people are told to stay home. others of course use it as a chance to roll the dice and say, hang on i will

probably get back pay any way, i may as well take the days off. why should a support a president that will gamble with my livelihood. you may face closed national parks and museums and other monuments. the president has said he has minded to turn this into a national emergency and that would allow him to carry on governing and taking the powers back from congress for these purposes, get the federal government open again. is that a credible option?|j don't again. is that a credible option?” don't think it is, it could be used asa don't think it is, it could be used as a band aid solution to get some construction going down at the southern board we are mexico. the department of defence does own a significant amount of land over one hundred miles of that 2,000 mile border. he could attempt to reappropriate some department of defence spending to start construction. that is viable. however, at the end of the day,

c0 ng ress however, at the end of the day, congress has to approve all spending and congress has said it won't approve this sort of spending. you can see immediately that this would ends up in court and it could up build the case for trump's impeachment if he insists on spending money congress has not approved. do you think he has stumbled into this confrontation, it is not the first federal shut down we have had, but we have had arguments about the wall before, the democrats have just gained control of the house of representatives and they are seizing this as an opportunity for them to kind of flex their political muscles, do you think quitejudged the think quite judged the mood correctly? i think he may have overestimated himself. nancy pelosi seems to have moved him into a corner. if you say you are willing to shut the government for years, that doesn't give you many options.

you have to climb down or do something that people won't support. in many countries, immigration is a concern among the populations and they tend to reward governments that are willing to be tough onboarder security. however, the democrats haven't said they don't believe in border security, they're just drawing the line at particular elements like the wall. trump may be able to exploit the fact that he is willing to be tougher than the democrats. but the democrats are also pointing out that trump said mexico would pay for the wall. sport and for a full round up, from the bbc sport centre. it's fa cup third round weekend. 32 ties played across the weekend. league two tranmere got us underway last night, they were beaten 7—0 by high flying tottenham last night. sports correspondent natalie pirks was watching. friday night lights at prenton park.

tranmere's fans were up for this one. the big boys were in town. spurs maybe title contenders, but they haven't won the cup for 28 yea rs. they haven't won the cup for 28 years. but one mistake was all they needed to pounce. aurier! there would be no giant—killing and in fa ct would be no giant—killing and in fact it was to get worse for tranmere. three goals in nine minutes saw spurs go 4—0 up. son in great form. the sixth was llorente's hat rick. there was only one thing to do hat rick. there was only one thing todo— hat rick. there was only one thing to do — bring on harry kane. 7a league places separated the sides — seven coals showed a chasm in class ona seven coals showed a chasm in class on a night where spurs turned on the style. after a superb start to life

at manchester united, the fa cup offers a chance of redemption for ole gunnar solskjaer against reading. this goalfrom didier drogba in the 2007 final brought an end to his playing career. since his appointment as caretaker manager he's won four out of four, and wants to make that five later. if we can get an fa cup to the final and geta if we can get an fa cup to the final and get a trophy, everyone knows how tough it is to lose a game. that was my last game for united, i lost a cup finaland it my last game for united, i lost a cup final and it was tough. we lost it last year. let's see in may if it's a success or not. spare a thought for blackpool who play arsenal, in what should be an historic day for the club. but such is the frustration with the clubs owners, away supporters are expected to outnumber the home support as fans continue to boycott matxches. i think that is a disadvantage,

yeah, but these lads are resilient and we have used to it. it won't be the first or second time that's happened. it's happened a lot at the away fans have been bigger than the home fans. so we almost use it as a positive. here are some of saturday's stand out fixtures and possible upsets. holders chelsea play nottingham forest — the team who knocked out arsenal at this stage last year. and halfway down your screen — everton play league two lincoln, who had that incredible run to the quarter finals a couple of years ago, earning them about £2.5 million. the full list of matches is on the bbc sport website. they might have lost, but saracens still managed to move top of the premiership following their 211—18 defeat at sale. sarries were leading early—on after a try from england's billy vunipola but denny solomona set sale on the comeback, touching down just before the break. a late saracens try gave them the losing bonus point that took them ahead of exeter.

if you've got a ticket to the start of netball‘s superleague season today, you're in for a treat. all five matches played back to back at the birmingham arena. england captain ama agbeze, involved in that special win for england at the commonwealth games, is playing for a new franchise, london pulse. it is something new and exciting and i know that in london there is lots of amazing young players coming through the and there was nowhere for them to go. the pulse have kept the girls. and there is some 17 and 18—year—olds keeping me on my toes. it is just exciting and being in london isjust it is just exciting and being in london is just exciting it is just exciting and being in london isjust exciting outside it is just exciting and being in london is just exciting outside of netball in general life and i wanted to be part of that. that's all the sport for now.

next the weather hello. quiet but cold probably summarises the first week of january but this weekend we keep the quiet weather but it will be a little bit milder. a weak weather front trying to push into the far north—west but it is not going to make that much of an impression through this weekend. for the rest of saturday, it looks likely the best of the breaks in the cloud may be across parts of eastern scotland and the east of the pennines and north—east england, but generally it is going to be cloudy and grey for many. cooler along the east, five or six degrees, for the rest highest values of between seven and nine. if you are heading to the fa cup matches this afternoon let's hope the football is more exciting than the weather, because it will be a cloudy and grey affair but it will be largely dry. into saturday night and sunday, we will see this weather front pushing in from the far north—west,

that will introduce showery outbreaks of rain through scotland and northern ireland eventually into the north of england but with all the cloud temperatures should hold up above freezing. if we get some breaks into the east we might see close to freezing but it is going to be a slightly less cold start to the day. on sunday the weak weather front, a band of cloud through northern england and north wales, behind it brighter conditions, the wind swinging to more of a north—westerly, fresher conditions pushing into scotland, between seven and nine, between eight and 11 further south. the real change arrives during monday as we see this area of low pressure bringing wet and windy weather. the isobars squeezing together on the southern flank of that low as the winds swing back to a north—westerly, we will see gusts of wind gale force in places and some of the rain quite heavy moving through scotland, northern ireland and the north—west of england during the afternoon. gusts of winds, 50 to 60mph to the far north of scotland, showers to come. a bright and breezy affair across much of the country,

highest values between seven and 11. moving out of monday into tuesday and wednesday, across scotland and northern ireland it is going to turn colder again, some showers turning wintry as well. for england and wales we could see more sunshine than recently, between seven and nine to start but through wednesday it will turn colder still. hello, this is dateline london, the programme that brings together some of the uk's leading commentators with foreign correspondents, filing for the folks back home, with the dateline ‘london‘. this week: divided government is back in washington. why has china taken a bite out of the big apple? the latest on brexit. and from bangladesh to brazil, the politicians who glory in the adjective ‘authoritarian‘. to discuss that, dateline's authoritative panel: the canadian—born, emmy—award winning broadcaster jeffrey kofman, eunice goes, portuguese writer and academic. the sudanese journalist nisreen malik and the british conservative commentator,

alex deane. donald trump's trade team will be in china next week, as the two countries attempt to replace a truce in the trade war with a more permanent peace. apple, the technology giant blamed a slowing of the chinese economy rather than trade hostilities. for cutting its sales by between five and ten billion dollars in the quarter ending last week. either explanation should worry the united states, but its leaders have been pre—occupied by the political battle between democrats — emboldened at taking power in the house of representatives — and a president emboldened by the pre—christmas white house clear out. in the base all the year or less to drop has lost his the retired generals and others, how well equipped as the administration to deal with the stand—off? equipped as the administration to deal with the stand-off? if you thought the last two years were engaging reality television, i think

washington, you have not seen anything yet because donald trump's bluster and modus operandi as i am the guy who