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this is bbc news. the headlines at 8pm. there's been another defeat for the government as the brexit debate resumes. mps voted to give theresa mayjust three days to come up with a new brexit plan, if the current one is defeated next week, but the prime minister maintains her deal, is the only realistic alternative. the only way to avoid no—deal is vote for the deal. isn't the prime minister bringing back exactly the same deal she admitted would be defeated four weeks ago? this is the scene in the house of commons now, where mps have started five days of debate on theresa may's plans, leading to the big vote next tuesday. police say 14—year—old jaden moodie, knocked off a moped in east london and fatally stabbed, was deliberately targeted. a bbc investigation has found that eight men have killed themselves in the uk,
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after being caught by so—called "paedophile hunters". laura monk looked at me! and "the favourite" is very much the favourite. the royal comedy starring olivia coleman gains 12 nominations for this year's baftas. mps have gathered again at the start of five more days of debate over brexit, ahead of the crunch vote on the prime minister's deal next tuesday. but before the talking had even begun, the government suffered another major setback over brexit, the second in just 2a hours. in a surprise twist, mps voted that if the prime minister's deal is rejected, as many expect next week, she must now return to the commons within three working days with a new brexit plan. here's our political
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editor, laura kuenssberg. one purpose and one direction. the prime minister has to push parliament to support her, to avoid what she claims will be no deal or no brexit at all. the only way to avoid no deal is to vote for the deal. the deal protects jobs and security and delivers on the referendum and he should back it. but time and her authority is scarce. manyjust don't believe her. if her deal is defeated next week, as i hope and expect it will, will the prime minister do the right thing and let the people have a real say and call a general election? there is real rage around the place. notjust squawking over number ten‘s approach.
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suspicion is that the government knows mps will direct their brexit compromise next tuesday and is just trying to run down the clock. so a group of mp's wanted to force the prime minister to produce a plan b if she loses within days. which in normal times, the man in the chair might not have allowed. myjob is not to be a cheerleader for the executive branch. myjob is to stand up for the rights of the house of commons. extraordinary, because the speaker, john bercow, let our vote happen against convention. i have never known any occasion when any speaker has overruled a motion of the house of commons. extraordinary too because of suggestions he ignored the advice of his officials. whether you might consider under the circumstances publishing that advice ? extraordinary because of the level
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of anger that produced. lam hopping mad. do people in this house have any idea how out of touch the general public think we are most days? over an hour the commons blew its collective top. i would suggest to some of my honourable friends who are getting somewhat overexcited that perhaps they should don a yellowjacket and go outside. before the rebels beat the government for the second time in 2a hours. the ayes to the right, 308, the noes to the left 297. if theresa may loses again on tuesday she will have less than a week to come up with new goods. take a breath for a moment. the number ten this is about trying to get through the brexit compromise it's taken more than two years to reach. where we leave the union and have our own control of immigration but keep a close economic ties.
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but there is so much disquiet over the terms of the deal it's turned into a better open stand—off between parliament and the prime minister. theresa may's control of this process is long gone and mp's are consumed by this moment. the actual arguments for and against the deal at the start of this vital debate were almost mute in comparison. the house should now give citizens and businesses the certainty they seek, the way of doing so is to back these deal after two yea rs of hard fought negotiation that the prime minister has secured. promises of more control of the controversial backstop arrangement fell flat and for the first time, labour suggested officially this is all such a mess that our departure from the eu could be delayed. i genuinely think we cannot do it on the 29th of march this year, it's not viable for so many practical reasons. may be, but that's not the prime minister's intention.
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if anything is clear its best tonight. what happens next is not only up to her. let's speak to our political correspondent, nick eardley, who joins us from westminster. according to betty today if i did speak about the decision to allow the amendment to go through. we know that the commons is still sitting now and the debate is continuing, what has been the favour of it so far? quite familiar, a lot of hearing in this debate this afternoon, it's very similar to what we had in this debate when it was initially held last month because the truth is, most people have not changed their mind at all. the cove na nt is changed their mind at all. the covenant is there setting the same deal, opposition parties don't like video for the reasons they have set out at length before and conservative mps, many of them still
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have real reservations about what prime minister is put on the table. perhaps, the most significant thing we have had a bit of bk list that could be heard from neighbour brexit spokesman bear, hinting that perhaps the nra and a stage where it maybe don't think it's possible to get anything that needs to be done, done by descent brexit bates, 29th of march. that's not a patient labour policy yet, the party is not sitting there saying we can do this, we need to revoke a suspended article 50 but there is fa there bear on the playstation that those who don't make it ten minutes to's prime minister's pam hobbs and neighbour asi minister's pam hobbs and neighbour as i say hinting officially fun to front bench for the first time that the official brexit babe, the one thatis the official brexit babe, the one that is written through legislation might not be possible. that's a bit ofa might not be possible. that's a bit of a good allotment. but as you say, that same identify being put forward it seems busy as was the case before christmas, nevertheless theresa may
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and the government establishing their particular proposal and still trying to paste arms tonight. yes, indeed. mps have been invited to downing street and spending time at deterministic, and the medical glass of wine, and she hopes venus into her argument. fund mps who have been coming out of a nasty having heard a couple of glasses of wine, they don't seem to really be changing their minds in great numbers anyway, for that pendant if be on course to win. we did speak to the brexiteer committee chairman of eid brexiteer group, this evening, he wanted to talk not just about whether he's been won over, but what about mmn today means. that amendment that caused so much controversy, it means by the ninth some think is going to have a much bigger role to play if you be that brexit gear is rejected. let's hope it isn't that what they have to say. if we don't get a beer
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at the prime ministers had come admitted on a bad deal. that's my view. with what happened today. the motion today is meaningless. while it acquires is our motion is made on the table which means what it says, some motions have been on the table for about two years. it does not do anything. today's events where signifying nothing. some company basically, they think this is really big moment today in the brexit process that takes some of the power from covenant, the power to happen trying to hold onto for the last two months. and gives more of it department, opens up a pandora's box of options but what happens after that prime minister passed by deal perhaps is ejected next week. we are not there yet, there is still a few days of the debate to go, they will be more warm wind and my arm twisting my attempts to get laboratories on side but as he had spoken about so many times, he does not look likely dependent if that is
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going to get enough people to change their mind and after next tuesday, anything can happen. 0k, their mind and after next tuesday, anything can happen. ok, i think if i bought. we will find out how all the stories are being covered on the front pages. and we'll find out how this story and many others are covered in tomorrow's front pages at 10:1i0pm and 11:30pm this evening in the papers. our guestsjoining me tonight are kate andrews, who's associate director at the institute of economic affairs, and the political journalist, jane merrick. police say they believe that a 14—year—old boy who was murdered in east london last night was the victim of a targeted attack. detectives say that jayden moodie was knocked off a moped by three men in a car, who then got out and fatally stabbed him. our correspondent adina campbell is in leyton and sent this report. those who knew jayden moodie say he was outgoing and knowledgeable with an interest in nature. the iii—year—old, who was under age, had been riding a moped illegally in this part of east london when he was hit by a car yesterday evening, in what police say was a targeted attack. he was then stabbed multiple times
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by a gang of three men and died at the scene. his death has devastated this local community. jayden called me grandad. he was going to start the boxing training, his auntie and that, they bought him gloves and they were setting him up so it's not like jayden didn't have any future. he was, you know, just like all of us in life. the teenager is the youngest victim of knife crime in london over the last 12 months. leyton is a busy part of east london but it is known for problems with gang—related violence and drugs. a report last year found that those gangs were increasingly using young people and gps technology as part of their competitive criminal activity with rival groups, and in some cases, inevitably, leading to people losing their lives. last year was the worst for violent crime in england and wales since 2011.
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and in london alone, 132 people were killed, more than half of those cases involved knives. since last night's attack, police say they have stepped up patrols in the area, including at local schools. absolutely shocking, i didn't sleep last night thinking about that and for his family and friends, what happened there, 1a years old. the police are here, i would like to reassure them in terms of our efforts every single day to keep them safe. it is an horrific incident that has happened and i'm not decrying that at all but every day i come to work and my goal is to keep people safe and we work with our partners in the local authority and health to do that. so far, no—one has been arrested but police say they are continuing to make house to house inquiries as part of this latest murder investigation. adina campbell, bbc news. the conservative mp for south thanet, craig mackinlay, has been found not guilty of falsifying his election expenses. the charges related to the 2015
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general election when mr mackinlay beat the—then ukip leader, nigel farage. marion little, a senior conservative party official, was found guilty of two counts of encouraging or assisting an offence. drone detection firms have been summoned to london's heathrow aiport after departure flights were temporarily suspended last night. the army is also helping police after sightings of a drone led to departures being suspended for about an hour. scotland yard said a "full criminal investigation" has been launched into the incident. traditional prison window bars are to be phased out in england and wales, under ministry ofjustice plans. newjails will instead be fitted with toughened glass and air vents. ministers said the windows would be hard to break and better for stopping prisoners "accessing contra band". the headlines on bbc news: the prime minister's plans for brexit have received a major setback after mps defeated the government for a
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second time in 2a hours. police are treating the fatal stabbing of a 14—year—old boy, knocked off a moped in east london, as a targeted attack, he's been named locally as jaden moodie. a bbc investigation finds eight men have killed themselves in the uk after being caught by so—called "paedophile hunters". and coming up, we'll be taking a look this year's bafta nominations with the film critic zoe margolis, including ‘the favourite' which is up for 12 awards — including best actress for olivia colman. sport now, and for a full round up, from the bbc sport centre, here's sarah mulkerrins. good evening. manchester city are hosting league one's burton albion in the first leg of their league cup semifinal at the etihad this evening. and the title holders are already a goal up, thanks to kevin de bruyne just five minutes into the game. marcus harness missed a good chance to equalise for burton. commentary on radio 5live and updates on the bbc sport website.
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west ham have received a bid of 35 million pounds from an unnamed chinese club for striker marko arnautovic. the austrian is the hammers' joint—top scorer this season with eight goals in 17 games in all competitions. it is understood west ham have no desire to sell arnautovic, who is under contract with the club until 2022. wembley is going to be tottenham's temporary home for at least another six weeks. they have confirmed that their new 62,000 seater stadium, which is on the site of the old white hart lane, won't be ready to move into until at least march. the club say that building tests need to be carried out and trial events need to be organised. their next four home matches, including their champions league game against borussia dortmund next month will take place at the national stadium. so would a potential fa cup fifth round tie if spurs are drawn at home.
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stoke city have appointed luton town boss nathanjones as their new manager. he replaces gary rowett, who was sacked on tuesday. jones takes over with stoke lying in 14th in the championship. jones had been with the hatters since january 2016 and guided them to promotion from league two last season. for the second year in a row, there's been an increase in the average time premiership rugby players are out injured. whereas the number of concussions has fallen slightly, tackling remains the biggest risk, owen farrell escaped punishment for this challenge during the autumn internationals, rule—makers now say they'll look to improve safety in the tackle. it's not necessarily the person carrying the ball that's injured, if the person making the tackle, that comes down to technique and height
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of tackle and dante had unhooked contact within the tackle so we need to look at that. also the speed of the collision. at an important been, how about ball carrier fha spins and the movement into contact. he i our way to mitigate against back and make it safe. the former hull kr centre thomas minns has been given a 16—month ban after testing positive for cocaine last march. the 24—year—old failed the test after a game and was released by the club injuly. he admitted taking the drug, which he said came at a time shortly after his mother had died. the suspension is backdated and he'll be free to play again injuly. it's a a big year for england cricket, they head to the west indies this week. but they'll host the world cup this summer, before the ashes series that starts in august. the ecb's new director of cricket ashley giles, who has taken over from andrew strauss, believes england can win the world cup. this year creates probably the best opportunity for a long time. how we are playing our cricket. i think we have found ourselves
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in the past running into world cups with suddenly a bit of a meltdown going on and change. that is not the case this time round. if you talk about my role again, as much as anything, that train is moving quickly along the tracks for the world cup and i need to make sure that down the line it's clear and there is no interference which will derail us. that's all the sport for now. you can find more on all those stories on the bbc sport website. that's bbc.co.uk/sport. manchester city mark 2—0 app. 29 minutes gone in that world cup semifinal. the bbc has learned that at least eight men in the uk have killed themselves after being exposed online by so—called paedophile hunters. typically, these "hunters" pretend to be children in online chat rooms to lure men into meeting them. they film the suspect, and put the videos online, sometimes live, and often before an arrest is made. police are concerned
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about such vigilante tactics, saying it's trained officers who should deal with allegations. our reporter catrin nye has been speaking to one woman whose father killed himself after being exposed, and to a former hunter. have you arranged to meet a 14—year—old boy here today? no. this is a sting by a so—called paedophile hunter. police are on their way right now. you're joking. they're dramatic and sometimes help put sex offenders behind bars. but there are other consequences. i loved him to bits. yeah. he was a born entertainer. was a 15—year—old girl. it was actually a paedophile hunter and was posted online for all to see. my daughter was upstairs. she was only 15 at the time. she came down because she could hear me screaming and she asked me what was wrong. and i have to live with the fact for the rest of my life.
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because i wasn't thinking... and i showed her the video. days later, michael killed himself. we've found at least seven other people who have killed themselves after being confronted in this way. the majority of these men took their own lives within days of being filmed and then put all over social media. and crucially, that means before police charged them with anything. i understand why people will say what they thought was there. but the reality is, he may not actually have committed any crime at all. we don't know because as soon as he committed suicide the case was closed. lesley‘s experience left her desperate to talk to someone who does this hunting. this is jamie lee, a prolific paedophile hunter. someone he caught also took his own life.
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hi. lesley. nice to meet you. and you. because obviously you're one of the online hunters, how did you actually get into that? it was actually my mum's husband, not my father, someone else she married, he abused me. if i can stop that happening to somebody else then i will do. i understand obviously wanting to work with the police and get convictions. but why is there the need to then live stream it and put it on facebook. my argument's always been, like, not live streaming it, and then it comes out in the paper, it's still going to come out. they're still going to get the stick. to know who you are. they're still going to know who your kids are and what school they go to. what's the difference ? i think with my dad, the group who got my dad posted that viral. they've potentially robbed victims of any criminaljustice at all. jamie has decided to stop his paedophile hunter work. lesley still has no more answers about her dad. catrin nye, bbc news.
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a video of the arrest of nazanin zaghari—ratcliffe, the british—iranian mother who's been detained in iran for more than two years, has been shown in a documentary on iranian tv she was jailed for five years after being convicted of spying. she denies all the charges against her. she's now planning a hunger strike because she's being denied medical treatment. police in norway have confirmed that they're treating the disappearance of a woman who's married to one of norway's richest men as a case of kidnapping. they said anne—elisabeth falkevik hagen, who's 68, has been missing since october the thirty—first, and believe she was probably abducted from her home. the police are recommending that her relatives do not pay a ransom demand they've received. her husband, tom hagen, made his fortune in the real estate and energy sectors. days after her success at the golden globes, olivia colman has been nominated again, this time as best actress at this year's baftas for her role in the favourite. the comedy is leading the field
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with 12 nominationsstars, also in the running are the freddie mercury biopic, bohemian rhapsody, and a star is born, which have seven nominations each. lizo mzimba reports. your majesty... i would like to enjoy the music now... the favourite certainly lived up to its name. the period comedy drama was way out in front, with more nominations than any other movie. as well as best film, rachel weisz and emma stone are both up for best supporting actress and its star olivia colman is nominated for best actress. did you just look at me? did you? look at me. look at me! how dare you?! close your eyes! after the metoo and time's up campaigns, the symbolism of the most nominated movie being the film led not by men but by three women is clear. i think the favourite is really capturing the tenor of the times, it's about a power struggle
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but it's about women holding the power at court, in the court of queen anne. and i think that has chimed with people. # i'm off the deep end, watch as i dive in # i'll never meet the ground...# the most nominated film isn't always the big winner on the night, though. a few behind the favourite's 12 is a star is born — a remake of a remake of a remake — with recognition for lady gaga in best actress and producer—writer—director bradley cooper, in multiple categories. # so you think you can stone me and spit in my eye...# also with seven, queen biopic bohemian rhapsody, including best actor for rami malek‘s portrayal of freddie mercury. fine, turn the box back on... one of first man's seven nominations is for claire foy‘s performance as janet armstrong, the wife of the first man on the moon. i've got a dozen cameras on my front lawn, deke. d'you want me telling them what's going on?
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and streaming service netflix has reached another milestone, with its first best film nomination for roma — a story set in mexico in the 1970s. the directing nominations have reflected an overall lack of films from female directors over the last year. maybe she didn't die, maybe she just moved back to the suburbs. richard e grant, though, gets his first ever acting nomination for playing a man who befriends a fraudulent writer in can you ever forgive me? # in the blue ridge mountains of virginia... steve coogan gets a best actor nomination for playing comedian stan laurel, but has strong competition from fellow brit christian bale for his portrayal of former us vice—president dick cheney in vice. the vice—presidency is mostly a, er...symbolicjob. right, right. it's not just about the glory of winning one of these, though. voting started earlier this week for the academy awards in los angeles. and a good showing here could well have an influence on the other
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side of the atlantic for those all—importa nt oscars. lizo mzimba, bbc news, at bafta hq. joining me now to discuss all the runners and riders is film critic zoe margolis. good to see you, thanks for coming. i saw the favourite on new year's day, bringing trade to spend the afternoon. i thought it was absolutely fantastic. the most number of nods as it were, how close do you think it a few getting all of them if possible? my suspicion is a 12 on the board, i think it will, if a substantial film. it has olivia coleman who is up for so many whites, i think she will definitely rent it and carried a scam, i'm pretty sure it will rain. what i personally laughed about it was the fa ct personally laughed about it was the fact that you had three strong women at the front of it, and all the men
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we re at the front of it, and all the men were simply elements. the three performances in the top there are absolutely superb. which means that perhaps retail price could get a nod, perhaps in a stone can get a nod, perhaps in a stone can get a nod as well. they might share the best supporting actor and white. what's so great about if it's got strong women and it's also acknowledging that time in history, when he did not have any power and get the relationships with each other and also with other people and also with other people in film showing that women can find a way to empower each other and to have strengths. even given their own impressions. slight controversy around best directed category. no one in indiana, and also the case when he did not have any power and get the relationships with each other and also with other people in film showing that women can find a way to empower each other and to have strengths. even given their own impressions. slight controversy around best directed category. no one in indiana, and also the case with the golden globes as well. when he could have had a good night at that. i think so, he could have had a good night at that. ithink so, it he could have had a good night at that. i think so, it does seem in this day and age that we should have parity in the fy and i'm really disappointed at that. i think so, it
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does seem in this day and age that we should have parity india whites andi we should have parity india whites and i believe is a point that baxter had not made an absolute commitment to having a 50—50 in their nominations. it is not. but van zy except for the next, he's up elsewhere in the bathtub. not the best directed which she said have had. yes. having said all about, slightly who has been around quite a while now, are you keeping him for best director? i think he has been ofa best director? i think he has been of a database director i wired. i think it might go to him by this. it's an outstanding family. you think it could be his time? i think it might be his time. i would have liked to seen if his best and which was not nominated it was a beautiful them, absolutely wonderful. we had got a clip of patrick i think we can pay now. jenkins is a direct impact. but you think spanky could be dennant to think that white? possibly. ok. that is go on. as embiid may be about a british
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writer, director or producer. that is for this scam, it could be a sense that the director of that could be in the running for that. yes, i think he would be really good runnerfor it. yes, i think he would be really good runner for it. it's an incredible baby your family. it's runner for it. it's an incredible baby yourfamily. it's brave, it's moving, it's got anything to find face and for advice on directed that i think it could be very proud of his achievement. what about a star is born? it seems to be doing pretty well at the box office. it makes me think. i think it could be a strong contender there. what is the attraction? people like tragic love story typing. essentially forgot an international language, romance and tragedy. what do you think of the quality of the nominations this year? i think they are really strong. i think also we should talk about the writing might as well. it's been a couple of lead that
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nominations can the adapted screenplay by ken you ever forgive me which is co—written by element. the original screenplay from the favourites and i think we have got really good writing in bcs nominations. i think we have got good nominations for the names yes, backgrounds meant, i would have liked to have seemed black panther in there as well. there is a quest that near category. as a base year 01’ that near category. as a base year or is it next year for what is the most popularfamily or is it next year for what is the most popular family think the other yes. looking for by the public. 0k. that is the kind of found that could make that particular category in the oscars. do you think the path that nominations and eventual winners is a pretty good precursorfor chris and philip mcatee at the oscars? a pretty good precursorfor chris and philip mcatee at the 0scars?|j think and philip mcatee at the oscars?” think so, yes and philip mcatee at the oscars? i think so, yes i met my favourite it's likely to be a star is born may be bohemian rhapsody given success as well. 0k. thank you
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for joining given success as well. 0k. thank you forjoining us. now, a daring rescue in the french alps at an altitude of 2,200 metres, which took place last week. this is the moment a police helicopter rescued stranded hikers from the side of a snowy mountain. one person had suffered a knee injury and the group was stranded. but there was no opportunity for a proper landing for the aircraft. the pilot had to make a manoeuvre in which one of the landing skids of the aircraft touches the slope enabling rescuers to leave the aircraft. the pilot performed this manoeuvre because he said it was the fastest way possible. the injured hiker was then safely winched into the helicopter. now it's time for a look at the weather. most of us had a decent day with
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some spells of sunshine but crowds have been gathering to the northwest and they are rain bearing clouds, a few spots getting into scotland, northern ireland and not an event overnight. great amounts, a lot of clear skies, some patches of frost with a frustrating night claiming to be confined to my senate and placed in areas as the weather turned increasingly mild across the night and rest with temperatures writing here through the night. overnight it was down to —3, minus four degrees on the coldest spots of southwest england. tomorrow we have not placed any means of feeding them but they are dragging in air coming from spain still had be rising across the north of the uk. we have got a warm front that pushes out bringing crowd and a few spots of rain across england and wales on thursday afternoon. to be north of this, i lot of crowded living in a quest scotla nd lot of crowded living in a quest scotland and northern ireland and be able to see some of the highest temperatures reaching a height up to 10 degrees through thursday afternoon. it you went there. hello, this is bbc news with clive myrie. the headlines.
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the government has suffered a second defeat on its brexit proposals in 2a hours, meaning that theresa may has to return to the commons in three days with a new plan if her deal is voted down next week. police say 14—year—old jaden moodie, knocked off a moped in east london and fatally stabbed, was deliberately targeted. a bbc investigation has found that eight men have killed themselves in the uk, after being caught by so—called "paedophile hunters". and a ban on nuisance calls about pensions starts today, to help tackle fraudsters trying to trick people out of their savings. mps have begun five days of debate on the government's brexit deal ahead of next tuesday's crucial vote. and in the event that you don't watch the entire debate, every evening, we'll be selecting
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some of the day's key moments in the commons. this evening, david cornock from bbc parliament joins us from westminster. to see thanks for being with us, help us make sense of all this. i wa nt to help us make sense of all this. i want to talk about starting with steven barclay, the brexit secretary. how much of a do over is this since what we saw before christmas? how was the government trying to renew the cell steel? his argument was that this deal is the best one, in terms of defending the referendum result, honouring the referendum result, honouring the referendum result. he said it would also respect ha rd—won referendum result. he said it would also respect hard—won peace in northern ireland. in terms of concessions to his own side, he suggested that mps can have more of the same further down the line if britain was faced between a choice
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of extending the transition period 01’ of extending the transition period or going into what is known as the backstop, that device that keeps the border opened in northern ireland. but in terms of those concessions, not a great deal of difference from a patient was put forward before christmas. but he did argue and defend, saying it had been worthwhile to pause that debate before returning to the issue today. it was clear that there was much the members agree with, but we listened to the views of the house, which in particular expressed concerns in relation to the backstop. we therefore paused the debate to allow those concerns to be discussed with the eu leaders. he argued that although those concessions were made, he did accept that they would not convince all his colleagues, and he certainly did
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appear to face a difficultjob in winning them around. the arguments did not seem to have changed a great deal since mps were less debating the subject for— five weeks ago. this is in advance of the meaningful vote on tuesday. there is still a lot to get there? the timetable is shrinking and shrinking, as we get closer to 29 markets. it is shrinking, we are talking weeks now before that deadline of 29 march, when britain is due to leave the eu. the shadow brexit terry set that date would slip, brexit would have to be delayed. it would have to be agreed by all 27 members, the rest of the eu. that in his speech today, he compared what was on offer before christmas and what the government was offering now despite seeking reassu ra nces
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was offering now despite seeking reassurances from the eu. he said that theresa may was simply offering mps the same choices. the prime minister is often mocked for saying nothing has changed. but this time, nothing has changed. the proposition before the house today is the same proposition as the prime minister put before the house on 5 december when she opened the issue to debate. i have my own copies, but these two copies were laid there at the beginning of this debate. they are the proposition before the house, and as everybody in this house knows, these are precisely the same two documents that were put before the house... when we go through the lobby next tuesday, we're voting for or against these two unchanged documents. and if theresa may was hoping some of the smaller parties might ride to her rescue, she would have been disappointed but not surprised today. the snp say that this deal is simply so damaging, the snp opposed
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brexit and scotland voted to remain, but they say this deal is so damaging, they will not be voting for it. in these benches, we cannot vote for a deal that will make us poorer, less secure, more isolated, deliver worse public services, and a worse future for young people, depriving them of the rights and opportunities that we ourselves have enjoyed and taken advantage of, as well. at a time when we have the biggest crisis in modern times with a weak and unstable government that is clearly the most incompetent in living memory, the scream will be coming to the united kingdom soon. the snp are looking forward to the next exhibition of the british museum, clive. you mentioned the snp, they won't vote for the deal, the lib dems will not either. the vast majority of labour, as well. but what is of huge concern is the dup, but we note that 20 tory mps
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defied them yesterday, and a number also backed the amendment today, thatis also backed the amendment today, that is of particular concern at the government cannot shore up its own forces as it were, then this deal is sunk? indeed, the ministers had been hoping mps would return from their constituencies refreshed by encounters with their constituents and decide that maybe it was better to support the deal after all. but that has not turned out like that, and they also hoped to get the dup on their side, with whom theresa may relies on for their majority. if they could, that would be a back door to getting more tory mps back onside. but certainly the dup today say are concerned and their concerns remained before christmas, and they're also concerned about the impact of the deal, possible impact of the northern ireland peace process. the withdrawal agreement, and especially the backstop arrangement, which actually forcibly would remove northern ireland from the rest of the united kingdom,
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laws made in brussels rather than westminster, northern ireland economy cut off from trade deals which the united kingdom would enter into with the rest of the world, that has put injeopardy the same balance there was in the belfast movement. it does not look like the dup are coming back onside on this deal, and if theresa may is hoping to win back conservative rebels, again that will be challenging. i would not say the tone of the debate was entirely friendless, as far as the deal is concerned, but there were very sick —— very few supportive speeches from the conservative benches. here is a flavour from the brexit here who resigned from the governmentjobs so she could vote against this deal. the division we have seen is a result of the prime minister's own making. her desire to get a deal at any cost, prolonging project fear, and her decision to postpone last—minute withdrawal agreement vote was a mistake, and it has only led to more division
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at a time when our country should be uniting behind a democratic decision to leave the eu. just one example of the critics on the conservative benches, another former member, andrew mitchell, compared to the prime minister's strategy to the charge of the light brigade. if she is going to turn this around before next tuesday, she has a big job on her hands, but i think she probably knew that.” think she probably knew that.” think she probably knew that.” think she did, as well. thank you, david. with me now is ruth fox, who's the director of the hansard society, which is a political research charity whose work focuses on parliament. good to see you, thanks for coming in. first of all, you must find all this fascinating? absolutely, this
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is our meat and drink. controversies surrounding john bercow to allow this amendment to be all that —— voted on the floor. explain why this is so controversial? the common understanding of the way in which this type of motion is worded is that it this type of motion is worded is thatitis this type of motion is worded is that it is not debatable or amendable. the speaker has accepted an amendment from dominic grieve, which he has voted on and the house is supported. it essentially challenges the principle that the government finance the business of the house, the order paper, how things are done in the chamber. and the normal understanding is, as i said, that that motion would not have been amendable, the backbench conservative mp yesterday said he tried to lay an amendment and was told he couldn't. it challenges the predictability of the rules, which is problematic, and it challenges the convention that if the government does not have a majority in the house, should it be able to
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command the rules of the game, if you like? and in a sense that the speaker, took some agree, has unilaterally concluded today in favour of challenging the government's position, and that obviously has found support in some corners of the house but not on the government side. primarily because the amendment which was but before the amendment which was but before the floor before christmas was voted on, and therefore is settled business. no, it is the wording of the new motion the government has laid down, and it all hinges bizarrely on the use of this word, forth with. and whether or not is debatable, the question has to be immediately put and whether or not you can have an amendment before the question is put. and the traditional understanding of the procedure has been that you don't, and what the peak —— speaker today allowed was an amendment. it was simply voted upon, not debated. the question is, should
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that have happened? there have been calls for him to issue the advice he was given on that question, should that be made public as you know, i don't think it was even written advice, it may have been verbal advice, it may have been verbal advice from a clerk of the house. generally speaking, the ruling is that code —— those kinds of guidance are not published, and the speaker's decision is final. there are rare provisions where the speaker must ta ke provisions where the speaker must take advice from other members. or other panels of shares, but that does not apply in these motions, and nobody has insisted that the procedure... when they looked at the rules for this motion, they did not —— insist upon it and put they could've done. it should not be published, but the speaker has opened a difficulty for himself because the fact that mps have a lwa ys because the fact that mps have always understood that these motions would not be amended, the future
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business where this use of the term forth with is used, those motions might also be amendable in the future, it has created an unprecedented situation. the former head of the civil service, lord o'donnell said today that he was involved in the discussions in the 90s. they are a piece of cake compared to this. he said that he was involved in the formation, or at least all a creation of a coalition government and the coalition talks. that was a piece of cake compared to this. you are from the hansard society, you've been around parliament and seen the inner workings. this is so unprecedented, there are no ground rules for what happens next, are there there are in a sense that we have a european union withdrawal act, and we have triggered article 50. so the
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ultimate ground rules are that we are leaving the eu on the 29th of march with or without a deal, unless the house of commons resolves otherwise. there is an awful lot in between, and how you get there, and the procedures for getting there, there are procedures in the house and what is known as section 13 of the eu withdrawal act which laid out a statutory process to get there. but ultimately, it is very clear what members of the house of commons are against, it is much less clear what they are in favour of and whether there is a majority in favour of any particular option as an alternative to an ideal. and we need a process, whether that is the amendments that are chosen next week ona amendments that are chosen next week on a meaningful vote tuesday night, 01’ on a meaningful vote tuesday night, ora on a meaningful vote tuesday night, or a second round of voting at a later date. we need a process whereby members can reach a conclusion. at the minute, that the fading on for siege or an process, but what they need to debate is the
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policy decisions. does that mean it feels to you perhaps indicative that votes might be the way of getting a sense of a parliament actually thinks should be the way forward? that is one option. the government's motion this time, as opposed to last month, opens the way for more amendments that they had planned to permit in december. so we make a a version of votes, but the problem will be the ordering of those in the tactical voting that comes into play will matter. it may be that this time, we get an amendment which retracts support, enabling theresa may to go back to brussels and... if these concessions can be made. she's probably already done that.” suspect she has, but she will have the numbers as public evidence of what's happened. ruth fox from the hansard society, what's happened. ruth fox from the hansa rd society, good what's happened. ruth fox from the hansard society, good to see you, thank you very much. that's it for brexit: the debate,
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but we'll be back tomorrow with a full round—up, as the debate in the house of commons continues. the headlines on bbc news. the prime minister's plans for brexit have received a major setback after mps defeated the government for a second time in 2a hours. police are treating the fatal stabbing of a 14—year—old boy, knocked off a moped in east london, as a targeted attack. he's been named locally as jaden moodie. a bbc investigation finds eight men have killed themselves in the uk after being caught by so—called "paedophile hunters". an update on the market numbers for you, here's how london's and frankfurt ended the day. not too bad there. and in the the united states this is how the dow
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and the nasdaq are getting on. more than 150,000 people are expected to attend the consumer electronics show in las vegas this week. it's the largest trade show of its kind in the world, and seen as a showcase for the next major trends in technology. but one of the biggest talking points of this year's show isn't new products, but the growing tension between the us and china, particularly on technology. our north america technology reporter dave lee sent this report. for decades, ces has been a thrilling ride into the future of the global tech industry. a multi—million dollar sales pitch of the weird, the wonderful, and maybe, the ground—breaking. companies from china have long been a familiar sight, with firms like huawei now taking up almost as much room as the top us names. it makes business sense for them to come here, because they can meet their buyers from all around the world. but while huawei has come out
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in force for this tech show, none of the us phone networks offered their smartphones. that's because the us government is concerned that china might use them to spy on americans. we don't believe there is any evidence in the world of any issues issues regarding huawei and their the products. and we are more than happy to have a conversation with the us government about how to come up with a security insurance framework geared for the united states. tensions rose further when huawei's chief financial officer was arrested in december. she is fighting extradition to the united states, where she faces charges of bank fraud, allegations she denies. and then, there's the ongoing trade war between the two countries, which threatens to impact tech firms greatly. the climate is making it harder for chinese companies to find success in the us. chinese brands in the us have always struggled, they've never had a significant market share. i think with the amount of power that huawei has,
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they could have had a really big impact, again, as we've with the rest of europe on the us market. most here hope and expect the trade dispute to pass, but there is a growing atmosphere of suspicion between the two global superpowers over how they use new technology. dave lee, bbc news, in las vegas. donald trump has walked out of a meeting with democratic politicians after they told him they would not fund his proposed wall along the us southern border. the meeting had been arranged to try to break the impasse between the two parties that has led to a partial government shut down, which has now dragged into its 19th day. a ban comes into force today to try to deal with cold calling scams which can rob people of their pensions. any firm which phones people about pension savings, without having specific permission, could face a fine of up to half a million pounds. cold—calling has been used by fraudsters to try trick people out of their savings.
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our personal finance correspondent simon gompertz reports. hello? it's a scourge on pensioners and savers like graham, who's bombarded with calls from fraudsters. they carry on, even at a gathering in south london to equip pensioners to deal with scams. how many have you had today? i've been in the centre today for half an hour now, and i've had five of those calls already on my phone. and i've blocked them, and they literally phoned me back a couple of minutes later, using a different phone number, and this goes on. and i get that about 10—12 times a day. apparently, it was a few thousand they took out... mary was tricked into paying out thousands of pounds from her bank account, so she's anxious about the calls. ijust put the phone down now, and i said, "i'm not interested," and ijust put the phone down.
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what you think of people like that? they're scum. helpers here say, "yes, put the phone down if you suspect you're being conned, or turn the tables on the scammer". i encourage them to say, and even before they give their name, to say, "well, who are you and why are you calling me? what is your organisation? " and ask those questions, because often, if you ask the question to the scammer, the scammer will soon put the phone down. the scale this has reached is frightening. the total number of cold calls, e—mails and texts running at nearly 11 million a year, typically people scammed out of £91,000 from their pensions. against that, now, there will be a penalty of up to £500 million for people who flout the ban. -- £500,000. the treasury ministerjohn glen
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wants victims to take the number, if they can, and report the calls to the information commissioner. he promises to stay vigilant if the culprits change their methods. we're onto it, and we need to make sure that we stay head of this, and we're not saying this is the end of it, either. if there's a mutation in the scammers' activities, we'll be looking very carefully to take further action in the future. the government's been criticised for not serving up the cold calling ban sooner. but now, anyone calling without your permission about your pension savings is breaking the law. simon gompertz, bbc news, south london. wrecking news considering the death of 14—year—old jaden moody, the man... detectives who are leading the investigation say they've found the investigation say they've found the vehicle that may have been involved in that killing. the black mercedes b class was apparently recovered in the carlisle road area of late and this afternoon. it is
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now being looked at by forensic experts, detective chief inspector chris sewage from the homicide and major crime command are leading the investigation, he says that they're treating the recovery of the car as a significant development in their inquiries. they're still very much in the early stages, police have said that they believe this was a targeted attack and that it was suggested the vehicle collided with jaden, knocked him off his bike, his moped, and then he was attacked on the ground. the recovery of the vehicle, police believe may have been involved in the jaden moodie killing. it's 30 years since london's air ambulance first took to the skies. during that time, it's helped with major events like the 7/7 bombings, and the paddington train crash. today, the duke of cambridge, himself a former pilot for the east anglia air ambulance, met with the emergency responders to mark the anniversary. tonight, karl mercer visited the iconic rooftop of the royal london hospital
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in whitechapel, where the helicopter takes off and lands. not bad, eh? we're 17 floors above whitechapel, this is where the air ambulance lives. this is the ramp that patients are brought down when they're brought back on the air ambulance back to the royal london hospital here. and here you see the city over that side, and then, canary wharf over here. not a bad view at all. over there, the olympic stadium. just where the light is there, that's where the crews and firemen come up when the helicopter lands. and today, we know it's a special day for london's air ambulance, don't we? it's their 30th anniversary, and they had a special visitor flying in, a man who's used to flying helicopters and air ambulances, in fact. prince william piloted in from wilmington palace earlier this morning. —— kensington palace. he did land here a couple of times when he was a pilot on the east anglia air ambulance. so he flew in, landed pretty much where i'm standing right now, went downstairs and saw some
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of the crews doing their practise methods that they go through every day. and then, he went on to meet some patients whose lives have been saved by the air ambulance. that was karl mercer reporting there. now it's time for a look at the weather. clouds have been gathering to the northwest and their ring bearing clouds, his feet —— few spots getting into scotland and northern england overnight, no great amounts. further south, patches of frost, but the frosted and i will tend to be confined to more southern and western areas as the weather turns increasingly mild across the north and west, with temperatures rising her through the night. overnight lows down to minus 3—4d, the coldest spots in southwest england. tomorrow we have northwesterly winds feeding him, but those wins are dragging an aircoming from spain, him, but those wins are dragging an air coming from spain, so temperatures will be rising across the north of the uk. our warm front
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pushes southward, bringing its own cloud in a few spots of rain across england and wales on thursday afternoon. north of this, a lot of cloud flowing in the northern ireland, but here we will see some of the highest temperatures, reaching up to 10 degrees to thursday afternoon. that is your weather. hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source. the prime minister will now have just three days to come up with a new plan, if, as expected, her brexit deal is defeated in parliament next week. president trump is meeting senior leaders in congress to try
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and end the government shutdown. they already knew what he message would be. he asked to pelosi, will you agree to my wall, she said no and hejust got up and said that we have nothing to discuss and he just walked out. the saudi woman who fled her family, and then barricaded herself in a hotel room in bangkok, has been granted refugee status. we'll have the latest from thailand. and we'll bring you the latest report from the ces tech show in las vegas.
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