good morning, welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. our headlines today: more than 40,000 criminals would avoid jail every year, under plans to scrap prison sentences of six months or less. president trump digs in over his mexican border wall — hundreds of thousands of workers go unpaid during a record—breaking us government shutdown. mainland europe braces itself for more heavy snow, as austria suffers the worst conditions for 30 years. shocked and sad — huge sympathy for andy murray from his great friend and rival novak djockovich, who's been leading the tributes as the brit prepares for what could be his final grand slam appearance on monday. and flying into the new year, it's indoor bungee jumping — i've been to try the new sport which leaves you in a spin. a mild start to the weekend and it stays mild rule out but turned increasingly windy. all the details on breakfast. it's saturday, the 12th of january.

our top story: prison sentences of less than six months could be abolished under plans being considered by the ministry ofjustice. it's argued that community penalties are better than short jail sentences at cutting re—offending rates. in england and wales it's thought the move would mean about 40,000 offenders avoiding jail every year, including burglars and shoplifters. this report from ben ando. at any one time, around 3,500 people are behind bars in england and wales, serving sentences of six months or less for crimes like burglary or shoplifting. but almost two thirds of those released will re—offend within a year. the prisons minister rory stewart has described these short sentences in a newspaper interview as long enough to damage you and not long enough to heal you, adding that those jailed even for a few weeks can lose their home, theirjob and their family and be set on a course to more crime. the ministry ofjustice says that prison is meant to protect the public from dangerous

people, reduce crime, and also reform prisoners. but could it be our overcrowded jails are instead turning one—time offenders into career criminals? since the 1990s, the prison population has doubled from 40,000 to 80,000. in 2017, 86,275 people were jailed and more than half of them received sentences of six months or less. abandoning such short prison sentences in england and wales is stilljust a proposal. legislation would be needed and politicians know promising to send fewer law—breakers to prison is rarely a vote winner. but a similar scheme in scotland has beenjudged a success and is being extended to sentences of 12 months. it could be that ending short sentences will benefit criminals, and the community, in the long term. ben ando, bbc news. the standoff between president trump and members of the us congress over funding for a wall on the mexican border,

has now resulted in a record—breaking government shutdown. the row has entered its 22nd day, leaving hundreds of thousands of government workers unpaid, as politicians argue over budget. david willis has the latest from washington. at the white house, they prayed. among them, a president caught in a crisis so seemingly intractable, it might take divine intervention to solve. a government shutdown that started with museums closed and rubbish piling up in national parks has now seen hundreds of thousands of government workers go without pay. and following protests across the country, that shutdown has now set a dubious record as the longest in american political history.

i really loved the work that i did, i would like go back eventually. i do not know how long it will be and ido do not know how long it will be and i do not know if i need to start making other plans. my husband is working without pay. you have to evaluate your family circumstances and how long you can hold out. president trump had threatened to declare a national emergency in order to break a political stalemate. he still might, he says, but not now. if they cannot do it, i will declare a national emergency. there has been no formal contact between president trump and democrat leaders since talks collapsed in the middle of this week. and with none planned, washington's winter of discontent threatens to drag on and on. heavy snow is continuing to wreak havoc across large parts of europe, leaving roads blocked, trains halted and schools shut. seven people have died in austria in the past week, and two hikers are missing. conditions are also particularly treacherous in bavaria,

as andy beatt reports. from scandinavia to switzerland, and the baltic to bulgaria, vast swathes of europe in the grip of a deadly, debilitating freeze. in austria, the heaviest snowfalls in 30 years have left alpine resorts and villages stranded, up to three metres of snow bringing many to a standstill. in germany, hundreds of soldiers joined emergency workers to clear roofs and roads in bavarian towns. five districts declared a state of emergency with schools closed and many communities cut off. further north in saxony, helicopters were used to blow snow of trees to stop them falling on roads and railways. but some remain blocked, while more than 100 flights have been cancelled. three people were injured when an avalanche swept through this hotel in eastern switzerland. local reports said the wall of snow was 300m wide. and storms across scandinavia have

made some routes impassable. in northern norway, a bus full of students blew off the road, while winds on the swedish border approached almost 180km/h. 1,000 miles further south, more snow and sub—zero temperatures. drivers in romania battling blizzard conditions, police rescuing some, but reportedly finding the body of one man in a car park. translation: you cannot see three metres in front of you. right here, 200m back, you cannot see. translation: we're waiting, for the moment. we're waiting for the snowfall to stop. but there is little sign of that with heavy snows forecast to continue across europe over the weekend. for many, there is still a long winter ahead. andy beatt, bbc news. police in wisconsin have charged a 21—year—old man with kidnapping a teenage girl and murdering her parents. jake patterson was

arrested on two counts of first—degree homicide and one count of kidnapping. 13—year—old jayme closs had been held captive since october, after her mother and father were shot dead. she managed to escape and was found yesterday. using credit cards for gambling could be banned under plans being considered by the government. in a bid to target addiction, culture secretary jeremy wright will meet banks and bookmakers ahead of a review by the gambling commission next month. the move would affect billions of pounds worth of bets a year. the wreck of a german submarine from world war i is gradually resurfacing on a beach in northern france, after decades of being buried in the sand. shifting sand near calais is exposing the remains of the uc—61, which was stranded there injuly 1917. it's now becoming a tourist attraction again, although the local mayor warns it may only be a fleeting visit. the weather is coming up in a few

minutes' time. andy murray says he's been "very touched by all of the messages and support" following the announcement that he plans to end his tennis career this year, due to an ongoing hip injury. in an emotional press conference in melbourne yesterday, he admitted that the australian open, which starts next week, could be his last tournament. does that mean this might be your la st does that mean this might be your last tournament? he sniffs yes, i think there is a chance of that for sure. yes, there is a

chance of that, guys like i said, i am not sure i am able to play through the pain for another four of five months. she was caught unawares, it was hard to watch. it was difficult to see. well, after that conference, social media was flooded with messages of love for the former british number one. the official wimbledon twitter account says "to andy, whatever happens next, you've done more than you know", alongside a picture of his winning moment from 2013. and his former doubles partner and current british number two heather watson posted on instagram saying... "keep fighting, andy, you've got a heart of pure gold! i know all of us girls in the locker room are in awe and are so grateful for how you always fight in our corner!

thank you so much for that." ina in a moment we'll talk to professor neil reeves, who is a musculoskeletal expert who can tell us more about the impact elite sport has on the body. but first lets speak to former british number one, annabel croft, who joins us now from melbourne. ahead of the open, ur ahead of the 0pen ahead of the open, ur ahead of the open this week next week, what has the reaction been to this very emotional andy murray, and understandably so? as you pointed out, there has been an outpouring of support, emotion, a bit of shock and sadness, and just admiration for his career and what he has achieved. i think everybody really appreciate enough of what he has done in the game, the utter professionalism he has applied to his sport. to draw out every last ounce of energy,

physicality, mental strength, everything he could possibly have grown, he will have left no stone unturned. this is it, this is why fa ns unturned. this is it, this is why fans love him. it is so apparent what he has grown into the game by giving it his all. i think that's right, because i think of him as a braveheart and the losers of the word, when i first saw him compete he has this unbelievably competitive nature and spirit on the court. very tough psychologically, and i was felt that when he was up against so many opponents, including federer, djokovic, he would push everyone psychologically and physically to the absolute limit. you have to remember he is amongst this great era in tennis that we had been enjoyed for at least the last decade, 15 or more years with the likes of federer and djokovic, they have all pushed each other and made each other better tennis players.

there is a lot of mutual respect amongst all of them, but he was on a path here are but he played his part. we heard nadal say we are all ofa part. we heard nadal say we are all of a certain edge, not as young as b used to be, you will see more of us going. when you read hard it was under different circumstances. you wa nted under different circumstances. you wanted to stop. you knew you had done enough, but for him it is so apparent he doesn't want to stop. that is the difference, you feel from watching these emotions that are coming out, it not suggest that they at the conference, it was in brisbane, before the us open, in washington, he broke down and you may remember he's sobbed uncontrollably for some period of time when he had won a tight 3—set match, and that was the moment where he probably felt like his body is not where it needs to be. he is not in control of the situation. many times during the course of his

career he is someone who liked to control what is going on on the courts, he very much was in control of situations on the courts which is why he has won two wimbledon ‘s, eight us open, davis cup, beating world number one, achieved it all. he is not in control of this and cannot get this head back to where it was. if you think of him as a competitor, one of his greatest strength was his ability to track down balls and stressed opponents psychologically because he kept getting in the ball back into play and eager out the unforced errors from his opponents. watching him in the practice session today, he sat slumped in the chair, and you think, while, he is really struggling to even walk out of their own court. it is going to be incredible 20 gets out there. i believe it will be monday evening in melbourne, that as well we think he might be playing. you are not very hopeful that he

will be at wimbledon. what are the prospects? i think it depends on what happens here, at the moment it is quite clear he is an extreme amount of pain. i think it is almost when he gets into a rally, if he is pushed into the corners as he was in practice today, then he starts to struggle to push back, tennis is a sport where you are changing directions constantly and having to push from a hard surface. it appears that walking in between the points is incredibly painful. to win a grand slam, this is the start of 2019 byes grand slam season, best of five sets and they have to win the seven matches. that is a lot of tennis. there is no question in terms of his old striking and a way that he can control his racquet head and the ball and what he can do with it, phenomenal. it isjust the

movement around the court. i do not know what he will be thinking but possibly the is thinking of the pain up possibly the is thinking of the pain up ahead for six months. we will talk ina up ahead for six months. we will talk in a moment about the impact on the body, but i cannot not do that i cannot not talk to about billiejean king's, it's about what andy murray has made from sport and his absolutely relentless attacks on sexism. —— what andy murray has meant to sport. he has taken up that ma ntle meant to sport. he has taken up that mantle and released it up and championed the cause for women in sport. to encourage more women in coaching and to take higher positions. that is very much coming from his strong character as his mother, judy, who has pioneered the way and sort of lead the way in terms of him and jamie's careers. he

has enormous amounts of respect for women, and i think either carry on with that cause. i do not think that will stop whether or not he is competing in tennis. thank you, do enjoy the tournament. paykel. —— ta ke enjoy the tournament. paykel. —— take care of. let's speak now to musculoskeletal expert, professor neil reeves. annabelle made reference to andy murray talking about the levels of pain. sports people generally often deal with pain. it feels like, can you give is a sense of what it is that his body is doing to him? you give is a sense of what it is that his body is doing to him7m has been caught by the high forces that elite sport puts on the joints, and many sports will put those lows on thejoint, but and many sports will put those lows on the joint, but particularly with tennis which involves very fast original changes, rapid starting and stopping. high forces acting around

thejoints and stopping. high forces acting around the joints and over time these lows and forces can lead to g generation. it isa and forces can lead to g generation. it is a degeneration which will cause the pain. in between the points, he wants very gingerly. you can see it in every step he takes. that would be a result of the generational changes which are at a carrying in thejoint, but it generational changes which are at a carrying in the joint, but it will be the high loads that will have caused these changes but nevertheless you both feel that when you stop and come to a stop and you are walking. this will be felt many times, and when you are in the thick of the action you might override some of that pain sensation but you will feel it during everyday activity. he has spoken about various options that are open to him. one is resurfacing the hip. he says that is an extreme operation but it will help his nobility of the course. and just living life. what

should athletes expect in terms of degeneration, and how it translates into later life compared to normal people? this type of surgery, it is not something that is typically seen in young people of andy murray's age, but it is typically later in life, and these things are brought about by a degenerative changes occurring in thejoint, and so it is something that has happened much earlier because of this high loading that has occurred over a long career. part of this battle, part of his emotional battle, thinking about the rest of his life. he will write now be tried to balance those things. realistically, him being a dad and having a life, is he going to be ok in that respect? is

medicine going to help him? this type of surgery is minimally invasive, lower—level surgery for changes in the hip. people do have those type of surgery but later in life. it is necessary if the pain is high, it can be done to improve quality—of—life. people will have it done to approve quality—of—life come and it is not to say he cannot return to elite sport, but it is increasingly unlikely but surgery like this. it is more for quality of life than for every turn to elite sport performance. —— for a return to elite sport. here's matt with a look at this morning's weather. mild weekend in store, but high—pressure nudged away a bit more, increasingly windy and there isa more, increasingly windy and there is a chance of rain at times. and

this morning was part of england and wales, damp weather through southern areas in the next few hours, easing from the south coast by lunchtime, continuing in the channel islands. they will be bright sunny spells breaking through, showers across northern and western scotland, merging it is longer spells rain across the highlands. showers in north—west england and northwest wales, sheltered from the westerly winds where you are best favoured for a bit of afternoon sunshine. morning sunshine and scotland. the westerly wind helping temperatures up westerly wind helping temperatures up to double figures most uk wide. still rain tonight across scotland, splashes elsewhere, eastern part of england quite broken. south and west to stay dry, but temperatures not dropping much, sticking around 8-11dc. dropping much, sticking around 8—11dc. coolest conditions in shetland. high—pressure nudging the further away from hours, allowing airto come off

further away from hours, allowing air to come off the atlantic, whether france to take us into sunday. schama is about england and wales on sunday morning, brighter into the afternoon, staying cloud —based across the south, but most bases will see sunshine during sunday, showers frequent across parts of northern and western scotland, some to western errors but a windy day, wind parching gale force widely, but temperatures are well into double figures for many, but turning colder next week. let's return to our top story now — prison sentences of under six months could be scrapped because ministers say they don't stop reoffending. the prisons minister, rory stewart, says the move would also help alleviate pressure by freeing up thousands of places. we can talk now to frances crook, the chief executive of the howard league for penal reform, which campaigns to see fewer people in prison. she's in our london newsroom. ijust wonderfirst of i just wonder first of all, what is your reaction to the notion that it is being taken seriously by government? we had been advocating

this for many years, it is a sensible move, we need to sort out people's lives. people end up in prison for short periods often come from chaotic backgrounds, they are often the people who have to step overin often the people who have to step over in the street because they are homeless, they may have mental health problems, alcohol addiction, so if we can sort out those problems we can reduce crime. it is com pletely we can reduce crime. it is completely pointless to put them in a local prison, dump them in a cell, a local prison, dump them in a cell, a disgusting cells where they will just lie on a bug for three months and then dump them back on the street. we have been doing that for decades and it has not worked. you will be well aware of the emotive argument around this, which is the notion that if your house has been burgled and someone gets taken to court over it and found guilty, maybe there is a bit of you that wa nt maybe there is a bit of you that want someone to face a prison term. it feels like that as a penalty,

trivial thing that is tangible. do you understand the way people might think along those lines? as i was burgled three weeks ago, i do understand that the problem is we do not catch burglars. we are not actually talk about burglars, though somebody sort of people who are edible and short prison sentences. the people who get short prison sentences by magistrates are people who are chaotic. they are the people who are chaotic. they are the people who are chaotic. they are the people who are shoplifting because they are homeless, una ting in the street, drunk, they are people who are annoying and desperate but they do not endanger others. they are not dangerous. the only people to whom they are dangers of themselves. they are harming themselves, so we need to sort out their lives. trinity centres, community sentence can help sort people out, and also get them to make amends for the wrong they have done which is really important, asa have done which is really important, as a short prison term does not do

that our help victims, and the facts show, and i like facts, it increases crime because it does not sort out people's problems, so it guarantees that there will be more homeless people and more crime. there was a report this week that showed that 30% of the people coming out braked in prison had nowhere to live. known secure accommodation. these problems we need to sort out, then became clear them out of the prisoners and prison should be reserved for serious and violent offenders, and we should concentrate on them. one of the problems here is that the statistics bear out what you are saying, we note the prisons are overcrowded, statistics show that keeping people out ofjail is better at making sure they do not reoffend. it is also a fact that most home secretaries and prime minister do not want to be the one who stands up in front of the nation and is accused of going soft on crime. do

you think fundamentally the reason this has not changed already is that they do not want to be that person with that label attached to them, that remains the case? that is why i am so pleased that thejustice secretary and the prisons minister, who is also charge a probationary community sentences, are being sensible and bold and talking about this and a very sensible way. we need this kind of leadership, and we need this kind of leadership, and we need politicians to come behind them. the reds one problem, i hate to put a spoke in the wheels, but the probation service was destroyed some years ago when chris grayling was secretary of state. we need to sort out the probation service so that when people get eight community sentence it is dealt with immediately and there sorted out, and it is recommended that the service should be reunited, part of

it has been privatised, we need to sort that out. we can make society safer, we can solve people's problems and we can do it in the community, and it is cheaper and more effective for victims, so not to like? ayes —— what is not to like? you're watching breakfast from bbc news. time now for a look at the newspapers. broadcaster beverley turner is here to tell us what's caught her eye. we'll speak to beverley in a minute, some people finding washing andy murray at getting so emotional ebb and uncomfortable. he was initially

and uncomfortable. he was initially a tough sell, it has taken him if you yesterday northover, but that is partly the reason why we are so fond of him. he wears his heart on his sleeve. that was genuine emotion. it is an enormous occasion for a professional athlete to retire as as this. what do you do with your life? it isa this. what do you do with your life? it is a problem. lots of people say he will be coaching. that often does not fill the void. he has been honest about the fact that he will find it a challenge. if you are an elite athlete and you are dedicated to it, there is an irrationality, there is a reason why we are not elite athletes. to give you an example, when james elite athletes. to give you an example, whenjames cracknell won his first 0lympic example, whenjames cracknell won his first olympic gold, there were nine 0lympic his first olympic gold, there were nine olympic gold medallists in that september in sydney, by the christmas only two of them were in

the existing relationships, they had all been in relationships. there we re all been in relationships. there were 13. by the prisoners, the majority of those relationships had broken down. —— by the christmas. being an elite sportsmen and a civilian is challenging. the scrutiny is huge. you are on your own arbel in court, and with andy murray, and the emotions erupt. he wears his heart on his sleeve. he is surrounded by great family, his mother is amazing, his wife is probably long—suffering and knows what she is dealing with. two young children. you hope he can find interesting business ventures. it but be hard for anything to fill that gap but hopefully he will be happy and continue to be so. his achievements have been absolutely the top of his game for many years.

we heard yesterday, this is the mother of a schoolgirl who died from an asthma attack and that has been linked to the pollution in south london. she has been granted the right to go to the high court for a new inquest. who would blame her? if you lose your child like this, it was five years ago, her mother genuinely feels and believes that has some medical evidence to support this, that the death was in part caused by the airport pollution around the south circular in lewisham. air pollution is an issue we can all feel ambivalent about. the problem is it doesn't seem to affect most of us. it has affected this poor woman and she's doing what she can. there is another story about increased risk of miscarriage through air pollution. there are certainly more investigation is being done at the

moment. this seems to be the next big one in terms of environmental impact that our lifestyles are having on the planet. it'll be interesting to see if she is granted this or not. a lot of interest in what is happening in america, politics, donald trump and the wall. in amongst it there are some interesting stories. this is about a young member of congress. there is a lot going on around her, a lot of criticism. there is a lot of talk around her. a lot of people don't know her name yet. she is very photogenic. she's 29 years old. she is the youngest woman ever represented to the house of representatives. she's from new york. she represents the and queens. and she is extremely radical. she would like to shake up politics and she's doing her best. every time you see her interview she is full of

enthusiasm and excitement about the job. she looks like she has won the lottery. she cannot believe she has got this position. she refuses to conform to some of the expectations. she is kicking back? she is absolutely kicking back. she uses twitter with a bit more intelligence and sat stunned donald trump and she clearly has high expectations of herself in politics. she has only been there since the mid terms in 2018. she has got some kickback not only from members of the republican party, but also from democrats. whoopi goldberg, who confirmed —— a confirmed liberal, she has said, sit still for a minute and learn the job before you start picking on people. she is under scrutiny. she is a name to look out for. fascinating to hear her talk. if you saw m&d same age doing the same job would he get the same scrutiny? men have been quite radicalfor same scrutiny? men have been quite radical for years.

same scrutiny? men have been quite radicalfor years. they same scrutiny? men have been quite radical for years. they wouldn't be. men come into politics all the time, especially in america. and they shoot from the hip and say what they think. they have been doing this for yea rs. think. they have been doing this for years. but when a woman does it it does attract more attention. thank you, beverly. headlines coming up. see you soon. hello, this is breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. a summary of this morning's main news. prison sentences of less than six months could be abolished under plans being considered by the ministry ofjustice. in an interview with the telegraph, prisons minister rory stewart argued that community penalties are better than short jail sentences at cutting re—offending rates. in england and wales it's thought the move would mean about 40,000 offenders avoiding jail every year. the standoff between president trump and members of the us congress over funding for a wall on the mexican border, has now resulted in a record—breaking government shutdown. the row has entered its 22nd day.

about a quarter of all government agencies are closed, leaving hundreds of thousands of government workers unpaid, as politicians argue over budget. heavy snow is continuing to wreak havoc across large parts of europe, leaving roads blocked, trains halted and schools shut. seven people have died in austria in the past week, and two hikers are missing. conditions are also particularly treacherous in bavaria. promotional deals on unhealthy snacks placed at supermarket tills could be banned under new government proposals. the department of health has said offers for high—sugar, high—fat foods linked to childhood obesity should be restricted. it said the number of children classed as seriously obese is at a record high, and it's now consulting on its plans. the charity age uk says more than 50,000 pensioners will be pushed below the poverty line if they lose free television licences. the government is withdrawing its funding for the over—75s scheme, and asking the bbc to cover the cost. the corporation is looking at a range of options. the wreck of a german

submarine from world war one is gradually resurfacing on a beach in northern france, after decades of being buried in the sand. shifting sand near calais is exposing the remains of the uc—61 which was stranded there injuly1917. it's now becoming a tourist attraction again, although the local mayor warns it may only be a fleeting visit. now that is something you would go out of your way to see if you lived there. an extraordinary image. rather remarkable. it is a little eerie. those are the main stories this morning. i think we have got some pictures of andy murray back on court. yes, they should be here at some point. after the tears, the hug from the mum, the love from the world of tennis and beyond, which made him feel a lot

better. he has his match on monday morning, just after seven o'clock. that is uk time. this is in training on saturday. they are way ahead. this is him having a knock up on the right labour court against grigor dimitrov. not playing a full match. —— the rod laver court. he seems to be moving 0k. —— the rod laver court. he seems to be moving ok. we spoke to annabel croft. she said she was watching. she saw bit of it. he did look a bit ginger when he was walking around. she has got a more trained eye than i have. but credit to him, he is moving. it could be the last game of his career on monday. grigor dimitrov is a close friend of his. and above described this very well, pa rt and above described this very well, part of his game has always been chasing balls down. —— annabel. when

he is going at full pelt, the pain has been kicking in. that is when he can't continue. it is when he pushes at crucial moments in big games, big moments of the game as well, that the pain starts. then it gets worse. they will miss him. murray's great rivals are going to miss him for sure. in a moment we will hear from rafael nadal. but first, andy murray's, great friend, the world number one, novak djokovic. they grew up playing against each other, but the contrast now couldn't be more different, with the serbian making a full comeback from his own injury problems. it is quite a shock for me. we are the same age and the same generation. it is kind of sad to see him going through what he has been going through in the last couple of yea rs going through in the last couple of years with his injuries. as someone who has been through a major injury with my elbow the last couple of

yea rs, with my elbow the last couple of years, ican with my elbow the last couple of years, i can definitely empathise with him and relates to what he is going through. 0bviously probably the extent of his injury is even worse than mine. it seems like he had not a very long career because today, players are playing that long. but he is 31. ten years ago he will... if he had retired at 31, we will say that he had a great and very long career, so that's — that's the real thing. so all the best for him. we will miss him. but today is him. tomorrow, another one. we are not 20 anymore, our generation. everyone is more than 30. these kind of things happens. now, who will step into murray's huge shoes? well, cameron norrie, who's 23, has been doing his best in the country where he grew up. he made his first atp final in new zealand, and although lost overnight to tenys sandgren, his progress in auckland will see him rise towards the world's top 50. former england international jermainejenas has called for leeds to have points deducted,

after head coach marcelo bielsa, admitted he was behind the spying incident, at derby's training ground. derby manager frank lampard also described the action as "unethical", even if no laws were broken and no—one was arrested. leeds went five points clear at the top of the championship after beating lampard's side 2—0. all eyes were on bielsa before the match. the argentine says it was his decision alone, because in other countries he's worked in, it's common practice. kemar roofe and jack harrison, scored the goals in front of over 34,000 at elland road. it was the spying mission though that grabbed headlines still afterwards. dan walker will explain why in a moment. doctor dan. i'm not a real doctor. thank you for dropping the end. doctor dan. i'm not a real doctor.

thank you for dropping the endlj was there last night. the match was one—sided. i was sitting behind gareth southgate. in terms of this story, a polarised opinion. some people find it funny. lots of clever tweet about it. 0thers saying it is a serious matter, it is unethical and leeds should be punished. surely it has been done before? the difference here is he has been caught red—handed. he has admitted it. if you saw frank lampard's interview, you can understand the angerfrom his interview, you can understand the anger from his point interview, you can understand the angerfrom his point of interview, you can understand the anger from his point of view. interview, you can understand the angerfrom his point of view. it would be naive to think it doesn't go on an awful lot in all sorts of sports. i am go on an awful lot in all sorts of sports. iam not go on an awful lot in all sorts of sports. i am not sure what the sanction would be. i would imagine the league managers association will have a word with him. some people are talking about a points deduction. i don't see how that would be sanctioned. who knows? maybe they will ban binoculars! they

will have to have those heat—seeking cameras that find people hiding in the bushes, training grounds everywhere. it couldjust the bushes, training grounds everywhere. it could just be called research. we will be talking about that today. also the championship. looking at hull, seven point of the play—offs. also, sadio mane. liverpool play brighton this weekend. he talks to dion dublin. he talks about how his parents wanted him to be a teacher. he used to skip school and practice football instead. make sure you go to school eve ryo ne instead. make sure you go to school everyone expect harry winks of spurs. they take on manchester united tomorrow. 0le gunnar solskjaer could be the first manchester united manager to win his first six games in charge. andros townsend talks about a revival at crystal palace. they take on watford. he has been watching jamie vardy videos and leicester to see how his movement should be around the box. an open and honest

interview. and the huddersfield manager, david wagner. they are in trouble. no team has ever had ten points after 21 games and stayed up. in the last two games manchester city blade runner and burton albion and scored 16 goals. that is three more than huddersfield have managed in the league over the season. are you comparing apples and oranges fell? added that. it is two games. it shows you are struggling. 13 goals in 21 games will not keep you up. the boss remained optimistic. goals in 21 games will not keep you up. the boss remained optimisticlj believe up. the boss remained optimistic.” believe we have a chance. this is the truth. if this will happen i have no idea. but i had no idea last season. i had no idea we would be promoted when we came into the play—offs. honestly this second i'm not interested in the bigger picture. i don't care about the bigger picture. i only care about cardiff city. how can we beat them?

how can we cause them problems and score macro ‘ ‘ how can we cause them problems and score macro “ score goals? how can we cause them problems and score macro —— score goals? how can we keepa score macro —— score goals? how can we keep a clean sheet and collect the point? i don't care about the bigger picture i only care about the win over cardiff city. more from him on football focus. i saw you interviewing 0ti mabuse yesterday. we have her predictions today. you will see her at the end of the programme. matthew wilson and martin keown johnny. which football team does she support? i'm not sure. that has never been a barfor someone does she support? i'm not sure. that has never been a bar for someone to do football focus. as sylvester stallone proved when he predicted somebody would win 52—0. huddersfield have goal—scoring problems. a professional footballer from japan has extended his career for another year — nothing strange in that, you might think, but that means

kazuyoshi miura will still be playing for second division side yokohama fc, at the grand old age of 52. miura started his career back in 1986, at the age of 18. he won the last of his international caps forjapan some 19 years ago. two years ago, aged 50, miura became the oldest professional to score a goal, breaking the record held, since 1965, by sir stanley matthews. i played over christmas in an 11 aside game. i didn't score. how many days did it take you to recover? how old are you? 53. playing is not the word associated with what i did on the pitch that day. now you know the fun toddlers have in their baby bouncers? have you ever thought that looks like fun? not really. i have always

thought it was fun. now there's a version for all of us and it's the latest keep fit craze to come from the us. it was the idea of a bungee jumper in america and is called ‘bungee fitness'. i've been to pembrokeshire in west wales this week to one of the first centres in the uk, to release my inner child. flying into 2019, the aviation pioneers of a new way of getting fitter on the end of a bungee cord. # i'm spinning around. it really releases the inner child. because obviously i'm at the older age level, shall we say, but i feel about five years old again. for all those people too terrified to do a bungeejump, well now the bungee has come to them, enabling them to fly and dive, but in the safety of a gym. it's exercise and it doesn't feel like hard work at all, and you just want to keep doing it. you know, come away from it with such a buzz.

it was started by an american bungee jumper who worked in a circus and who wanted to bring her aerial skills to the masses, so creating bungee fitness. last year, she brought it to south wales where a local dancer has been passing on the techniques to groups of all ages. so you're doing everything like if you were doing a zumba class, so you'd be running forward, running back. i can really access and engage many people in this because there are people who probably didn't do pe coming to the class. low impact, it's fab for your joints. if you're working with the resistance, you land gracefully. upside down splits one—handed. what? that is your signature move? yeah! my favourite bit is spinning because, like, you cannot stop. everyone's upside down and they look like bats. they look like bats? i like it when i spin around and jump 'cause i feel like i am a bird. just to get used to that resistance.

before i could release my inner bat — or, indeed, bird — it was on with the harness and a bit of a crash course in the basics. if it is your first time, you do not want to fly before you can walk. nice! well done! yes! drop your hips. good! nice! good! it's like walking on the moon but weightless... keeping up all my energy. i cannot stop, actually. # i'm spinning around. # move out of my way. #i know you're feeling me... it can take a while to get used to the harness and to trust your new powers of bounce, keeping up with the class. however, i've also learnt there is only so much spinning you can take before you start to get a bit dizzy and lose all sense of spatial awareness. i'm laughter. we're tangled up!

we're completely hitched there. sorry! a bit ofa a bit of a tangle but eventually i got through. it was great fun. everyone seemed to lord. we will see you later on. i wonder if matt would fa ncy you later on. i wonder if matt would fancy that? matt, you're kind of thing? i would love that. that looks great fun. great way to start your new year. if you are planning to get fit outdoors today, you will not need too many layers. it is very mild. it will turn increasingly windy. it is not exactly dry everywhere. for central and southern england and wales, drizzle working site. clearing from a list by lunchtime. lingering across the channel islands. elsewhere, showers linger. longer spells of rain in scotland. away from that a lot of dry weather. the best of brighter breaks to the

south—east of northern ireland, east of scotla nd south—east of northern ireland, east of scotland and eastern england. a westerly wind is bringing the mild airof the westerly wind is bringing the mild air of the atlantic. temperatures between ten and 12 celsius. tonight we stick with the milder air. some splashes of rain in western scotland. part of northern ireland. temperatures not dropping much from daytime values. 10 degrees in glasgow. the reason things are about the milder is that high pressure has drifted towards the south—west, bringing the atlantic air but the weather front. more rain bringing the atlantic air but the weatherfront. more rain this weekend. for tomorrow, showers pushing south. they will continue in north—west england, north west wales through the day. as they will across northern and western scotland. most prolific in northern scotland. and even windy day tomorrow. sunshine at times. temperatures, sorry, winds

ghosting. milder on tuesday and wednesday. colder air by the end of the week. more later. thank you, matt. a little bit down for quite a few people. hopefully you'll enjoy your weekend anyway. a growing number of people in england are being fined for claiming free prescriptions they're not entitled to. the nhs says these claims cost it more than £250 million every year, but chemists argue the rules are too complex and confusing. paul lewis from radio 4's money box has been looking into this. do you want to take us through the basics, first? who is exempt from prescription charges paul? a prescription cost more than £8 per item. the people exemplify the over 60s, children over 18 if they are in

education, pregnant women with children up to the age of one. then there are people with long—term illnesses. not all long—term illnesses. not all long—term illnesses. asthma is not covered, hiv is not covered. then there are no income schemes which include a lot of people on benefits. but not everyone. it is hard to work out if you are entitled, even if you are on sale universal credit you may or might not be entitled. there is confusion. it is difficult to work it out. that is why a lot of people think they are entitled if they are not. what happens if you wrongly claim? there are random checks and they seem to be growing because i'm getting more complaints about this. a chemist i was talking to yesterday said she was getting members of the royal pharmaceutical society getting more complaints. they carry out random checks. if they can't establish you are entitled, they issue a fine and you have to prove that you were entitled. about a

million fines were issued in 2017. more than 300,000 were withdrawn because the people said, actually i am entitled. it is very confusing for everyone. i must say the royal pharmaceutical society would like eve ryo ne pharmaceutical society would like everyone to get them free. as they do in scotland, wales and northern ireland, where there are no charges. what does the nhs england say? they say they have a responsibility to collect the money were a patient has claimed exemption. they can't prove they are entitled, they do find them. they are introducing real—time checking over the next few months, a pilot. you will check of the chemist when you claim every prescription. the chemists are not happy about that. they say it is not theirjob to police this. they are not happy. if someone is worried they may be doing it inadvertently, how can they check? they can check

online with nhs england. the system wasn't fully working yesterday. it is long and conjugated. lots of questions. also, if you need more than three prescriptions in three months, three items, you should get a prepayment certificate, which will work out cheaper. if you are going to need more than 12 items in the next year, a prepayment certificate will cost you £104. it is cheaper if you need more than 12 items. check, a lwa ys you need more than 12 items. check, always pay, and if you get a receipt you can claim it back if later you find you were entitled. don't risk the fine, which is £44 per item. that is on top of the £8.80. poll, thank you. you can get more on this story on radio 4's money box at midday today. thank you for watching. the issue of migrants coming to britain to seek refuge, has been back in the news recently. and now a new play is aiming to highlight the difficulties asylum seekers face when they first arrive in this country. featuring a cast from three different continents, including those who have gone

through the process, welcome to the uk takes a satirical look at the migrant experience. director sophie besse and baraa halabieh, a performer and refugee, join us now. good morning to you both. sophie, what do you hope people will get out of this play? i think we hope that people hear about what is happening when people arrive here to seek refuge. it is a very difficult process. i don't think people know about that. they have 28 days only once they are granted asylum to find a home. 0therwise once they are granted asylum to find a home. otherwise they are kicked out in the street. it is a very difficult one. we also want the audience to enjoy the show with us. we ta ke audience to enjoy the show with us. we take them on a roller—coaster between comedy and tragedy. you have

experienced this. how does that reflect what is going on in the play? the play reflects our stories as individuals. i was in the refugee camp at calais. many of the cast... when you say the calais refugee camp, was that thejungle? when you say the calais refugee camp, was that the jungle? yeah, i was in the jungle. most of the actors were there. two years ago we did a production which describes the journey you go through to get to calais. people think the moment we arrived in the uk we are settled. but we are facing new challenges. the moment the home office grant you refugee status, and it is a big and ha rd refugee status, and it is a big and hard process, they send you a letter telling you you have 28 days to leave the hostel where they accommodate you and they will stop the financial help they are giving you, which is £5 a day. with this

letter you have 28 days to apply for a national insurance number, to open a national insurance number, to open a bank account, apply to a job centre, find a place to stay and to find work. these things are challenging for someone who speaks a different language. if you don't speak english, it is really hard. sophie has described it as a roller—coaster. there is comedy in it as well. on the face of it it is ha rd to it as well. on the face of it it is hard to see where that lies. we have seen just recently the dangers, the risks people are taking to get your. many lives have been lost. this is a story you are very familiar with? exactly. some people ask why people are risking their lives. for me, i left syria because my life was in danger. the unknown for me is safer than the war zone i am coming from. i was than the war zone i am coming from. iwas in than the war zone i am coming from. i was in calais. i saw how the

french police force or violence towards us. one refugee left a war zone and found himself in france. the police were so violent. i didn't leave it dictatorship to find myself in anotherone. leave it dictatorship to find myself in another one. sophie, how do you make this entertaining? had you make a comedy out of it? that was a choice i made after giving a workshop in the calais jungle. choice i made after giving a workshop in the calaisjungle. i choice i made after giving a workshop in the calais jungle. i saw so many positive things that people never talk about. we always feel fear or pity for refugees but we don't know how resilient they are. they have a great sense of humour. they have a great sense of humour. they have a great sense of humour. they have great talent. musicians, singers. i wanted they have great talent. musicians, singers. iwanted people they have great talent. musicians, singers. i wanted people to know about that. i guess i want to try to throw a bridge with the audience thanks to humour because laughing together is something that brings people together. i don't think fear

will lead us anywhere. it is credible us apart. there is quite a lot of polarising going on at the moment. extreme views on either side in politics. do you think people are open to the idea of hearing this story told in a different way? with borderland we were very lucky. we started at the cockpit theatre. we we re started at the cockpit theatre. we were meant to have two performances and we ended up having a two—year run that took us all the way to india. so far, so good. when you are performing on stage and you see people respond, given what you have been through, it must be very emotional being up there?m been through, it must be very emotional being up there? it is so emotional. to be honest, the feedback, when you talk to the audience afterwards, it is amazing. even when you see refugees among the audience who come and shake your hand afterwards and say, you are representing me, thank you. we are not on the presenting our stories,

we are presenting the stories of everyone who is not able to be onstage and tell their stories. we try to tell everyone's story. humour helps as well. for example, our youngest performer has been waiting three years for refugee status. he arrived at 16. now in the play he is the wizard of the funfair. he has got a long white beard. he has been waiting outside the home office for more than 200 years. for him, he says it is a relief to laugh about that. it is a different perspective. you make people laugh, which is positive. thank you. tuesday the 22nd. good luck. thank you. you are watching breakfast. we'll be back with the headlines in a few moments. good morning, welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. our headlines today: more than 40,000 criminals would avoid jail every year, under plans to scrap prison sentences of six months or less. president trump digs

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