he was not standing up against the abuse they received online in his name? if seeing not protect his own mps and the traditions of the labour party, how can he protect this mps and the traditions of the labour party, hc we in he protect this mps and the traditions of the labour party, hc we in he confidence, mps and the traditions of the labour party, hc we in he confidence in this under the order of the house of today, i am now required to put the question. the question is that this house has no confidence in her majesty'sgovernment. vote—macro.

division! clear the lobby. and with that five hours of debate comes to a close. we had tom watson closing from their side of the house, different in tone from michael gove, more thoughtful and camp and almost a pitying tone describing how the prime minister had failed and then a rousing speech from michael gove saying they could never put someone likejeremy saying they could never put someone like jeremy corbyn saying they could never put someone likejeremy corbyn in government. fine oratory but a lot of people around the country will be watching the shouting in westminster and saying it doesn't help. the shouting in westminster and saying it doesn't helpli the shouting in westminster and saying it doesn't help. i was going to say it was a hard act to follow, that was great parliamentary theatre

but it changes nothing, she will win the vote and then we are back to the brexit crisis. let's join 10 coburn as we wait for the vote. welcome to viewers on the bbc news channel. danny finkelstein, will the government winter night's vote?m looks like it because it has a majority with the dup and it doesn't sound like anyone has defected. sisal? i think they will win but it does beg the question what would happen for anyone to lose confidence in this government and it also begs

the question for those mps who didn't have confidence in theresa makes as leader of the party, white they think she is good enough to win this country? i think they will win because overall the conservative mps believe they are the right party of government and can deliver what they set out in the manifesto. we can ci’oss set out in the manifesto. we can cross into the house of commons, we have seen mps filing out to vote on this vote of no confidence but let's just put that question to vicki young. viewers may be wondering how theresa may could lose so catastrophically last night on her brexit agreement and yet scores of those same mps who voted against her will vote for her government this evening. it feels like a parallel universe compared to where we were here last night heading towards this

largest defeat for any government in history and yet as you can see we can see mps filing in and they will vote for their own government. partly it's tribal, there was a reason whyjeremy corbyn was so relu cta nt to reason whyjeremy corbyn was so reluctant to bring this no—confidence vote because it is the most united the conservative ventures have been for months because they stick together, as one said to me, we are ourfamily and we don't want labour in government, because aside from this hunch brexit issue, they want to stay in power. what has been the gossip today as mps came in and out? it's all about the next steps, everyone waiting to hear what theresa may says, if she wins that vote she is likely to stand up and say something about what happens next. some tory mps

have said she is not reaching out and adopting the correct time, some wa nt to and adopting the correct time, some want to move closer to what labour would like, possibly a customs union. some in the cabinet would like to do that. interviewed brexiteer mps saying that would split the party. some feel that actually that is the choice she is ending up with. either going to split the party by bringing in labourand going going to split the party by bringing in labour and going that way or take the country to no deal, which of course some feel would be catastrophic. let's get a flavour of the closing arguments of the debate. and hearfrom the environment secretary michael gove and labour's tom watson. if the house declares its no confidence in the government its no confidence in the government it will open the possibility of a general election and a change in direction for country on brexit, a change in direction for workers, for

young people and for our vital services. mr speaker, the the right honourable lady will be known as the nothing has changed prime minister. but something must change. our only choice left is to change her and her government in a general election. choice left is to change her and her government in a general electionm the leader of the opposition won't stand up against vladimir putin or against fascists in syria, if he will not stand up for this country when a critical national security questions are being asked, how can we expect him to stand up for us in european negotiations. will he stand up european negotiations. will he stand up for us against spain over gibraltar and over the commission to ensure we will get a good deal. he won't even stand up for his own members of parliament. passions running high. let me take you back

to last night. and that unprecedented defeat for theresa may. were you surprised by the scale? actually, i wasn't. may. were you surprised by the scale? actually, iwasn't. because i thought that if all of the mp5 who said they were in favour of, against the deal voted against it, it would be of that order. maybe it was a tiny bit larger. but it was the right ballpark. i was disappointed with it. for somebody like me who never thought brexit was a good idea, but agreed the referendum was lost and the government must deliver a brexit deal, ifelt lost and the government must deliver a brexit deal, i felt betrayed lost and the government must deliver a brexit deal, ifelt betrayed by that vote. i felt so much effort had been put in to provide a solution and that solution was thrown back in the prime minister's face. it was a water shed the prime minister's face. it was a watershed moment. i have lost patience with trying to - people patience with trying to gs; 2522; won't patience with trying to gs; gssg;s

won't be... who are who won't be... who are you talking about? | felt the people who about? i felt the people who supported brexit have never been able to take yes for an answer and i thought i might try no instead. i feel that people like me have gone along with something, thinking actually the people voted for it, but now if people are saying 17.4 million people want this no deal brexit, my view is i don't think they do and you're going to have to test it. the answer is this this was the worst deal in history and the mps put country ahead of party and it was not even brexit. it is worse than remaining in the eu. it is like putting the country in a straight jacket. if you think it is worse, i didn't want to leave either. so we are in agreement. what you say islet's do, the mps have voted

twice, to leave with no deal. under article 50. they haven't vote ford that. they voted to leave without a deal. no one believes that. under the withdrawal act they voted to leave without a deal. i voted on that. i did - vote in favour of the doing that. that is how democracy works. passed. that is how democracy works. i'm not in favour of no deal. if you believe the public supports that... they have voted. you're backing another referendum. i'm in favour of another referendum. i'm in favour of a solution that will get through house of commons. we have no have no no deal brexit. if one solution is a second referendum, i'm prepared to support that, although i never thought it was a good idea. do you think no deal is more likely. thought it was a good idea. do you think no deal is more likelym thought it was a good idea. do you think no deal is more likely. it is on the cusp. there is no majority

today, but i don't understand why have shifted when the prime they have shifted when the prime minister has said no deal is better they have shifted when the prime mini a er has said no deal is better they have shifted when the prime mini a bad s said no deal is better they have shifted when the prime mini a bad deal. no deal is better report didn't say'they'wanted' no deatfipst are didn't say'tney'wanteo“ no deatfiost are against no deal. they have mp are against no deal. they have already approved it wir leaving.= we are already approved it wir leaving.= we are leaving. the labour managed to unite the party, the conservative party, by labour calling this vote of no confidence. nothing has united the tory party more than that?|j think the tory party more than that?” think it was right that they called for that no confidence, given the scale of the defeat yesterday. that is what you would expect. what it shows to me and listening to what people were saying today in the chamber is how scared the conservatives are of a transformational labour government and how important it is for them to

protect the status quo. they were so proud of their record, on austerity, it is unbelievable the first government to be held in contempt in parliament thought they had something to be proud of. i'm scared of your transformation and it is a big motivating feature, because it is dangerous. not always transformations... what to tax the rich more? i'm not against all the labour party's policies, we tax the rich already, but i do fear a labour government. i don't think the fact that... do you think it could be worse than this government. come on? we're going to get the result. let's go to vikki young. how will this result be interpreted ? go to vikki young. how will this

result be interpreted? mps have filed back in, so it could be close. this is mps voting on whether they have no confidence in the government. tabled of course by the opposition. it means that those who have gone through the aye lobby are the opposition, labour saying they don't have confidence in the government. those going through no lobby will be the government. we expect the government to win this. politics is in a strange place, but we politics is in a strange place, but we have heard from the dup and many brexiteer conservatives who say they will back the government, despite their reservations about brexit. we don't expect a surprise. that is how we don't expect a surprise. that is how we need to interpret it. we expect the ayes to lose. i'm going to talk to chuka umunna. your policy is if you fail, you have to look at other steps. you want another referendum. your leader is reluctant. it is

quite clear there are conservative mps who are prepared to defy the government and give this decision back to the people. jo johnson and philip lee, there is a raft of them. there are i think sufficient numbers that if labour mps were whipped to support is in going back to the people, we have got, we would would be within a shout of getting it through. that means jeremy corbyn has to go for it. you have 71 labour mps, that is not enough? that is just those who have signed the statement. it is more than that. it is somewhat more, because not all who are on the report of supporting a people's vote signed it. it is not enough. there is no doubt, in a way, this is in a hands as much of the leadership of the conservative party as the labour party as whether we actually send this back to the people. but that is clearly, if

there is impasse in westminster, how else do you resolve it? another thing that is one thing you can say in spite of chaos you have been reporting, the consensus is we shouldn't leave without a deal that. would be disastrous for our economy. the eu would need to grants us an extension to the article 50 process. and they have said they won't give us more and they have said they won't give us more time simply for more renegotiation but they would give it for a democratic vote. shouldn't you be working to find a deal. if theresa may is going to reach out, shouldn't you be working with her? with respect, through the course of these negotiations, people like me, i have argued as a way of reaching a compromise for us to stay in the single market, but i think that ship has sailed and the question is how

do you solve the gridlock and labour's resolution is clear, if we 9?"qu é: fee-ilui'fifi'li emt iii? gate £555”? 5 55551'45'5fi'l5 emt iii? gate general election, £555”? 5 55551'45'5fi'l5 emt 5555 gate general election, the of the conference motion is spirit of the conference motion is to move to a people's vote. i would hope me would mm haven't time to delay. just 37 sitting days 232; days. haven't time to delay. just 37 sitting days 5:51 days. that you: going into shortly mps have filed in and we arejust waiting in and we are just waiting for back in and we are just waiting for the result in the next few moments. faiza, listening to chuka umunna, if you lose this vote of no confidence, which you say you expected, is it a people's vote? we are going straight into the commons. 0rder, order! the ayes to the right, 306. the noes

to the left, 325. so the noes have it, the noes have it. unlock. that is the result from the speakerjohn bercow. we heard that the government has in fact won that vote and the motion of no confidence has been lost by labour. let's listen to the prime minister. it seems there's house has expressed its confidence in the government tonight. i do not take this responsibility lightly. my government will continue its work to increase our prosperity, guarantee oui’ increase our prosperity, guarantee our security and to strengthen our union. and yes, we will also continue to work to deliver on the

solemn promise we made to the people of this country, to deliver on the result of the referendum and leave the european union. i believe this duty is shared by every member of this house and we have a responsibility to identify a way forward that can secure the backing of the house. to that end, i have proposed a series of meetings between senior parliamentarians and representatives of the government over the coming days and would like to invite the leaders of parliamentary parties to meet with me individually and i would like to start these meetings tonight. mr speaker, the government approaches these meetings in a constructive spirit and i urge others to do the same but we must find solutions that are negotiable and command sufficient support in this house. and, as i have said, we will return to the house on monday to table an amendable motion and to make a statement about the way forward. the house has put its confidence in this government. i stand ready to work with any member

of this has to deliver on brexit and ensure that this house retains the confidence of the british people. mr jeremy corbyn. thank you, thank you mr speaker. last night the house rejected the government because my conclusions ? order! i called the prime minister ona order! i called the prime minister on a point of order and the prime minister was heard and she was heard in relative tranquillity, and certainly with courtesy. and the same courtesy will be extended to the leader of the opposition and to others who seek to raise points of order. that's the way it is. jeremy corbyn. thank you, mr speaker. last night, the house rejected the government's deal.

emphatically. a week ago, the house voted to condemn the idea of a no—deal brexit. before there can be any positive discussions about the way forward, the government... the government must remove, must remove clearly once and for all the prospect of the catastrophe of a no—deal brexit from the eu and all the chaos that would come as a result of that. i invite the prime minister to confirm now that the government will not countenance a no—deal brexit from the european union. point of order, ian blackford. thank you. i must say i welcome the offer of talks from the prime minister. i think it is important, mr speaker, that all of us recognise the responsibility that we have and on the back of the defeat of the government's motion last night, that we government's motion last night, that we have to work together where we can to find a way forward. icommit can to find a way forward.

i commit the scottish national party to working constructively with the government. however, ido to working constructively with the government. however, i do think it's important in that regard that we make it clear to the prime minister, in the spirit of openness in these talks, that the issue of removing or extending article 50 of a people's vote and avoiding a no deal have to be on the table. we have to enter these talks on a basis that we can move forward and achieve a result which will unify all the nations of the united kingdom. well, we had a statement there immediately after winning that vote of no confidence from the prime minister, theresa may, followed by the labour leaderjeremy corbyn and also by the leader of the snp in westminster, ian blackford. first of all, your response to the interesting offer from theresa may which she didn't make last night. she said she was reaching out that this was a specific invitation to the leaders of those opposition parties. what's changed? i'm very

glad she made it. she has to stop this is done from a position of weakness. you made a very good point earlier when you spoke about the fa ct earlier when you spoke about the fact that the government have won the confidence vote but you can't just ignore what happened yesterday. there was a massive political defeat. the government has to do this to find a solution. jeremy corbyn's answer was very significant. i corbyn's answer was very significa nt. i waste corbyn's answer was very significant. i waste out the problem with reaching out, and one of the reasons. . . with reaching out, and one of the reasons... we'll try to guess what happens in brexit but it depends what the labour party from bench to side and they have a made up their mind yet. so we can't guess, because they do not know. i genuinely think he has... dodging having the talks because he wouldn't know what to say in them. was it wise to make that a red line, ruling out a no deal? is an important point for a lot of mps, they want to take no deal off the table. i think is very wrong to say thatjeremy table. i think is very wrong to say that jeremy corbyn hasn't table. i think is very wrong to say thatjeremy corbyn hasn't been wanting to have discussions. in fa ct, wanting to have discussions. in fact, on one hand, people complain he doesn't want a public vote again

and the other he says —— but they say he doesn't want to push through brexit. he says again and again, it's around the customs union and a good relationship with the single market. this is where theresa may will come into trouble. all other opposition leaders will say that. he was just offered there and we just saw it. i thought that he turned down the offer to stop no, he didn't. he made it a precondition. he starting the negotiation from minute one. i think what we have heard just then means that actually an extension to article 50 is very much more likely, with all the consequences that that involves. i think everybody has to understand where that is going. that actually means, for example, we face the very serious and important point that we are going to have to fight the european elections in may, for example. we can't extend article 50 are not fight those elections. that

hasn't been properly thought through. we on the leave side will start gearing up for that and ensure that those elections are fought. you can'tjust that those elections are fought. you can't just extend that not have those collections, for example. was it wise to make a precondition before the talks started? would you advised jeremy corbyn to do that? we had two one half years of going round in circles. it is such a mess. the only reason why we will have to extend this now is because theresa may has handled it so badly. we can't have no deal unless we have a deal or some sort of arrangement. parliament can declare it... theresa may can't even declare there won't bea may can't even declare there won't be a deal. she doesn't want no deal because she has advanced the deal, she wants a deal but she can't announce there is going to be no no deal. there are members of her cabinet that want no deal taken off the table. i want it not happen but you can't take it off the table, because if we don't have a deal, there will be no deal. is the reason we had such a bad deal was because

the european union, they never believed that we were prepared to walk away. that is why it was such a weak, feeble negotiation. let's go back into the houses of parliament, where vicki young is no doubt meeting mps as they come out of the chamber. that is right, pretty intriguing, jeremy corbyn getting up and saying she has to take no deal off the table. putting conditions on the talks before they even start. theresa may clearly wa nti ng before they even start. theresa may clearly wanting to get going as quickly as possible, saying westminster party leaders could meet her as soon as tonight. let's find out what the snp's viewer is. stephen gethinsjoins out what the snp's viewer is. stephen gethins joins me. out what the snp's viewer is. stephen gethinsjoins me. is your party also putting preconditions on these talks? nearly three years on from the referendum, two and a half years on. what we said is first of all we need an extension of article 50. you can't do this by the 29th march, given the complexity and the time that has been wasted by the prime minister already. also, she needs to consider a people's vote. she can't disregard something that

has been talked about by a significant part of the population and a significant number of mps. finally, no deal has to be off the table as well. that is something i think we can all agree on. extension of article 50, give us time to have proper talks for really important. to clarify here, are you setting it out as a precondition, you won't step in the room and where she says it? orare you step in the room and where she says it? or are you willing to meet her to discuss it? as ian blackford may clear a few moments ago, he said the prime minister must consider it. let's give the prime minister the opportunity to respond to that, she hasn't had the opportunity to respond. we have a clear position where we would like to end up and we have a very clear position that we put to the prime minister and she needs to start engaging with that. is there any negotiated deal that he would support? are you being disingenuous question that you want a second referendum, you want to stay in the eu, you have been open about that. you are not looking for negotiating a deal here? there is no party in the house of commons that has as much experience of successful

minority government as the snp. we are in our second stint as minority government, we pass meaningful legislation but that means talking to colleagues and other political parties and a responsible opposition. it has happened in the scottish parliament. there is no reason why it shouldn't happen down here as well is that no other party has the level of experience the snp has the level of experience the snp has on this. the prime minister must meaningfully engage. the first party to come out with any compromise was the scottish national party two and a half years ago. stephen gethins, thank you very much indeed. that is the view from the smp. we will see how soon the other leaders take up this invitation from the prime minister and whether they can make much headway before the deadline of next week, on monday, when the prime minister has to come and lay a motion here in the house of commons. faiza, it may be theresa may as lonely this evening ifjeremy corbyn, neitherjeremy corbyn or ian blackford turn vicky and stephen geffen ‘s, nigel

dodds was on his feet pointing out that the government didn't have the dup ten votes, the government could have lost by one this evening. it's an important point because the dup have said their biggest concern with the prime minister's deal is still that backstop. we also heard from ian blackford that he would meet with the prime minister this evening, as willjeremy corbyn, a change from what was reported earlier because although the prime minister said she wanted to reach out to labour, it was over the heads of the front bench and it now seems like she will askjeremy corbyn to talk with her. with me is henry newman, and grace plenty welcome to

you both. henry, no one is pretending the prime minister is in a good position at the moment, it's a good position at the moment, it's a dire situation but is it possible that she becomes emboldened by the vote and goes back to europe at some point and says she now has the confidence of the house? tonight was a decisive win for her, it showed thatjeremy corbyn's strategy has backfired and the next question will now backfired and the next question will now be what does labour want to do with brexit, and we saw labour mps asking what their policy would be if we asking what their policy would be if we had a general election? we don't know ifjeremy corbyn will back a second referendum but theresa may could present herself as the only national party leader backing brexit, and we had two big nights here at westminster but nothing has

really changed, the same options are in there as there were before, either we leave the eu with a version of the prime minister's deal for we leave without a deal or we don't leave. at this point jeremy corbyn has a choice. he will meet the prime minister this evening, if he gives support for a customs union, how will that go down with labour members who want to remain?” don't agree that the strategy has backfired. labour has sued the strategy agreed at conference and the aim was to expose this government as unfit to govern, and we re government as unfit to govern, and were it not for the fixed—term parliaments act we would be facing a general election, and theresa may would have been defeated. she needs a two thirds majority to bring the

government down, and worry to face a vote of no confidence outside that ad, you wouldn't need the two thirds majority. she couldn't even get at straight majority, she didn't need two thirds. it was off by a very small margin. can i talk to you about the negotiation this evening, we are about the negotiation this evening, we are hearing from labour and the lib dems that they will talk to the prime minister as long as no deal is off the table. the prime minister may be reluctant to do that as she sees may be reluctant to do that as she sees the no deal bit of this as the leveraged with her own backbenchers. parliament voted in favour of article 50, that would lead to the uk leaving the eu after two years and now labour mps are saying they do not want no deal, they say they wa nt do not want no deal, they say they want a permanent customs union

whereas in the backstop there is a customs union and i don't understand where the labour party's policy is. i find it strange the amount of time we're spending talking about the labour party, if i had the responsibility to go through a deal, the factories may has failed and is clinging on by a thread suggests this government is not fit to be doing these negotiations and in this situation of parliamentary deadlock, we i have yet to find anybody who wants a general election. i know many people who would prefer a general election to a second referendum not only because of their views on europe in the context in which we find ourselves in that led to brexit, this economic stagnation and wage stagnation and all these issues the government has failed to address because it has been so focused on

this failed brexit deal. we will come back and discuss this further but vicki young has a guest with her. to get some cabinet reaction straightaway to what has just happened i'm joined by the communities secretary, james brokenshire. on the confidence vote, not a huge surprise but a relief given what happened yesterday? the prime minister said yesterday she wanted to test the opinion of the house to see we have the confidence of the house of commons which we do. therefore to move on to those discussions with other party leaders. as the prime minister said, wanting to work with other parties, parliamentarians to test the support and the things that need to happen to ensure we can make brexit happen and therefore following through as she said she would. what you make of jeremy corbyn? he said in order to join those talks he is asking the government to take the possibility ofa government to take the possibility of a no—deal brexit off the table. the prime minister has always sought

to act in the national interest. seeing that we follow through on that boat, that we deliver on brexit. as she said last night in a very open way, saying she wanted to reach out and talk to other parliamentarians and saying she wanted to talk to the leaders of the other parties and get that going this evening but i find it extraordinary that having said that, jeremy corbyn says, i will attach some conditionality to it, i will not engage but attach preconditions. i hope he reflects on that. otherwise it looks as if this is all about party political manoeuvring rather than acting in the national interest. that is what the prime minister is determined to do, to see that we do deliver on the vote of the british people and we deliver on brexit and make it happen. jeremy corbyn would also say it is a bit late in the day, we are now incredibly close to our departure from the eu and it was always the case there would have to be some kind of cross—party compromise? you area kind of cross—party compromise? you are a minority government, it is a contentious issue and should she not

have reached out earlier? obviously the prime minister has been working in parliament and i'm sure many people have seen the hours she has been here, answering questions and listening to people and equally we do of course need to reflect on the vote from yesterday in terms of the vote from yesterday in terms of the vote on the deal and why i think it is right she has formally underlined that a sense of engagement with other political parties come up with other political parties come up with other parliamentarians. that was firmly the next step and coming back to parliament on monday to deliver a further statement, to provide a motion that this place can then amend and subsequently debate. i think it is about reflecting and acting on it yesterday and actually taking this forward in the national interest, to deliver that right and positive future we know we can have asa positive future we know we can have as a country and equally doing so in as a country and equally doing so in a way that respects and recognises the vote of the people through the referendum. some of your colleagues are saying a customs union is the way forward. it would be pretty controversial. it seems as though

the option of the prime minister is to split her party by going towards what labour might want or going towards a no deal scenario which many fear. it's important we give properly affect to the wishes of the british people in the referendum, deciding we should leave the eu and equally ensure that we are able to trade freely, internationally, and how we can do that. it is something thatis how we can do that. it is something that is negotiable with the eu. that is what the discussion and the debate that the prime minister will now have in terms of the hours and days ahead, to understand where that space can be, to command the support in this place, to go back to brussels as necessary, to reflect that pack in terms of further negotiation or discussion. that is the right process, that is the right approach and that is what we are getting on with. james brokenshire, thank you very much. i'm going to bring in the deputy leader of the labour party, tom watson, thank you for speaking to us. jeremy corbyn seem for speaking to us. jeremy corbyn seem to put a condition on entering any kind of discussion with the

prime minister about finding a way forward , prime minister about finding a way forward, taking no deal of the table, why has he done that?” forward, taking no deal of the table, why has he done that? i think what our concern is, we have a prime minister who had the biggest defeat in history last night, narrowly escaping a no—confidence vote today, and doesn't appear to offer any concessions on her red lines. you haven't got in the room yet. it wasn'tjustjeremy haven't got in the room yet. it wasn't just jeremy corbyn, the leader of the lib dems and snp also said, you have not spoken to us for two years, we want to resolve this and we think is important we can an intelligent conversation. for us to convince our members this is the right thing to do, we want you to show us a little bit of goodwill. there is clearly a view in the house of commons that there should be no support for a no—deal brexit. business is saying that, many families are saying that, i don't think it is unreasonable forjeremy corbyn to say, are you being serious. we had radio interviews this morning with people saying she would not meet the party leaders.

there has obviously been a change of plan this afternoon. i think i could say on behalf of the labour party, we are very amenable to talks but i think the prime minister needs to show us that she is serious about that. is she actually going to concede on some of these red lines, are they going to be meaningful talks? she will presumably explain that when you get into the room but the problem is taking no deal off the problem is taking no deal off the table is not that easy because it is the legal default position so aren't you better off speaking to her about a customs union, something you might like? it is very difficult to negotiate with this government because they have been so erratic, calling folks and changing folks, their positions have changed, resignations and different times and read lance —— calling and changing votes. we are saying we are amenable to talks but you need to let us know you are being serious. we have been

clear about our red lines. keir starmer has been on the bbc and other news channels for almost two years now. we have said we want to get close to a form of customs union, we want to align nearer the single market because that is good forjobs in business and there are some red lines we have on work protection. she might offer you that but you don't know. let's see. jeremy corbyn has not said no, he has said where are you are no—deal brexit. he has made it clear and the ball is now in the prime minister's court. if she is in this seriously, it will take some time but she can broaden out her reach if she is serious about that now we regret she did not do it earlier but let us know where she's prepared to go and we will an intelligent conversation. i don'tjust we will an intelligent conversation. i don't just speak we will an intelligent conversation. i don'tjust speak for the labour party, i think most of the party leaders in parliament take that view as well. tom watson, thank you very much. we will have to see whether those talks even - a lot $5555 55; 55 5555 555 5:55, 555

her own side. thank you very much. we're seeing philip hammond arriving back at number ten this evening. of course there will be those meetings with other parliamentary leaders but you heard from tom watson that support from the leaves come at least sitting down to talk in great depth, will depend on the promise of taking no deal off the table so lets get reaction to that. what do you make of that? they are saying to their members, labour, the prime minister does not talk to us for two yea rs, minister does not talk to us for two years, you have to show good faith and that means taking no deal of the table. labour continues to respect the policy that was agreed by members at conference which is to push first and foremost for a general election but to keep no options off the table so that it does include potentially negotiating with the government. but in this theresa may managers to claw herself

away from the current impasse where she is being held to ransom by the erg essentially, there is little headway... she is not being held to ransom. he has been for the last two years. think about the context in which we were discussing this immediately after the referendum. very few people were talking about a no deal, we were talking about soft brexit, staying in a singer market and customs union, the erg has consolidated its position in the tory party and has essentially forced... is a bit like three—dimensional chess because there was talk tonight that backbenchers are moving towards a customs union. if they do that, she is going to lose the erg. then you are ina is going to lose the erg. then you are in a position of can we pull across enough labour backbenchers to support us and can we rely on them if we put this deal back to the vote. the labour party's own policy test for brexit it must deliver the same benefits as membership and that by definition is impossible. you

speak to people in the european commission and can't have a delivers 5 ' ’ delivers the 5, 5 delivers the same 5— 5 delivers the same benefits % delivers the same benefits asfi that delivers the same benefits as it's not happen, it is a membership, it's not happen, it is a front seat. she speaks tojeremy corbyn, i'm sure they will sit down and it will be a lovely discussion but at the end, the labour party will not suddenly vote for the prime minister's brexit policy. there would be a risk in that. nor should labour stand up. they shouldn'tjust give theresa may, the way that negotiations panned out, the way she has... that's why we need a general election. can ijust ask you... we are at an impasse, a constitutional crisis and the way out is to change the parliamentary arithmetic, it is common sense. he said before we spoke to vicki young that you speak to more people who want a general election rather than a second referendum but if there was that election, what is labour going to campaign on? on remain orfor brexit? what they would be campaigning on would be decided by the membership. they are proper

dumps that predominantly in favour of remain so we would be looking on the lines of a soft brexit! .jeremy said . jeremy said he would respect the result of the referendum and that continues to be labour party policy. are you forsaking the labour brexit voters predominantly in the north? labour has the task of retaining leave and remain voters by refocusing on the real divide in this country which is the economic divide. to do that it means that they need to respect the result but also do something that will not destroy the economy or play into the hands... you said one of the options was to have a second referendum which would not respect the result. the labour party is in this position where we cannot the labour party is in this position where we cannot even the labour party is in this position where we cannot even be told what their policy would be if they had won their policy would be if they had won tonight. there could be a position where the government lost a vote tonight which is whatjeremy corbyn tried to do, we discussed why we are corbyn tried to do, we discussed why we are here, because he called a vote of confidence in the government. if that had been lost, we are government. if that had been lost, we are facing a general election and

the labour party have just omitted, you have just omitted... the labour party have just omitted, you havejust omitted... you the labour party have just omitted, you have just omitted. .. you are taking ona you have just omitted. .. you are taking on a labour supporter, a lot of people say, a customs union which ties us into the european union which does not allow us free independent trading policy, that is not what we voted for. we can have a separate discussion about that but it is not just separate discussion about that but it is notjust grace is saying that, jeremy corbyn was challenged in the commons on this and he said it would be decided by the membership. coming back to the central fact, if they start to cross that red line on a customs union, how are the conservatives going to be able to tell people we will have a fully independent trade policy when we are tied to the trading policies of the eu. they would be great in that red line and you would not have an independent trade policy. at which point you would say to brexiteers, they would say, what is a point of leaving if we are tied so closely. the reason for talking so much about labour is because it is quite clear

everybody knows the conservatives don't have a policy on this and they cannot move forward. there is one deal that has been negotiated with the eu and that is the prime mr‘s deal and that deal would leap —— allow to leave the customs union. brexiteers can make different arguments, but there are lots of others. used to say that we want to get out of the ever closer union, we won't have control of our agriculture and fish and immigration policy, we want to stop sending huge amounts of money to europe and the deal does all of those. i think we should also be out of the customs union but that is one element of the deal. they are now charting a course of no deal. you might build to agree on this, if we come to the motion on monday and it is a short period of time, she has to come back with a plan, there will be amendments, perhaps they are indicative votes on a customs union, perhaps on a second referendum. is that the way forward?

this is going to go round and round across the road ad nauseam. the only way to get to the bottom is to have these indicative votes to find out what there is a majority for. white and now the executive has demonstrably failed to deliver on the policy it is advocating, the initiative. parliament. in the absence of a general election that would change the arithmetic, what you're looking at is no deal will not get through, as it of impediments have been placed in the way of that and that is not the majority for a second referendum. do you do that as a free vote and take the politics out of it and have a free boat across the house and a whole range of options, the alternatives that are to find out what parliament can support.” alternatives that are to find out what parliament can support. i can't imagine... henry says this is in the national interest, with 72 days to go until brexit. doesn't the commons have to put the party politics to one side and decide this is what we can support? the point of politics

in this country is party politics. it is the fact that different interests are represented by different parties. there is no such thing as the coherent national interest. there is such a thing that it is true. you have different parties but you can also decide on a common interest. the question of the indicative votes, some people are suggesting the facts would become clear in the two and a half years since the referenda but if you watched the debates in the commons in the last few days, you can see mps between all kinds of fantasy ideas are perfect brexit and perfect way of stopping it. there is more confusion and disagreement and there has been before. the danger of putting pallant has been before. the danger of putting palla nt in has been before. the danger of putting pallant in charge, of course it has to ultimately agree on whatever deal is secured, and ultimately i think the prime minister boss michael deal will get through, but due but the commons in charge, you will have divisions repeatedly on different amendments, mps are rushing into different lobbies, not sure what they are voting for and you can make this chaos much worse. i have to leave it there. really interesting and a good debate, thank you both. we canjust

tune into a little of what the prime minister said before she left the house of commons this evening, reiterating that she would continue to deliver on that result of the referendum. this house has expressed its confidence in the government tonight. i do not take this responsibility lightly and my government will continue its work to increase our prosperity, guarantee our security and to strengthen our union. and yes, we will also continue to work to deliver on the solemn promise we made to the people of this country to deliver on the result of the referendum and leave the european union. i believe this duty is shared by every member of this house and we have a responsibility to identify a way forward that can secure the backing of the house. to that end i have proposed a series of meetings between senior parliamentarians and representatives of the government over representatives of the government over the coming days and i would like to invite the leaders are parliamentary parties to meet with me individually and i would like to

start these meetings tonight. mr speaker, the government approaches these meetings in a constructive spirit and i urge others to do the same. but we must find solutions that are negotiable and command sufficient to support in this house. and, as! sufficient to support in this house. and, as i have said, we will return to the house on monday to table an amendable motion and make a statement about the way forward. the house has put its confidence in this government. i stand house has put its confidence in this government. istand ready house has put its confidence in this government. i stand ready to work with any member of this house to deliver on brexit and ensure that this house retains the confidence of the british people. the prime minister, who has now returned to downing street where she will meet party leaders this evening. i'm joined by the chair of the labour party, ian lane three. good to see you. things will develop pretty fast in the next 72 hours as we move towards a new motion for the house

towards a new motion for the house to vote on. what do you think has a credible chance of getting through the house? first of all, it is two yea rs the house? first of all, it is two years since these negotiations started. for the prime minister to make a started. for the prime minister to makea claim started. for the prime minister to make a claim to meet with the leaders of the parties is a little bit too late. she hasn't at any stage, not at one stage, sought to seek the advice on discussions or negotiations with the opposition parties. ifind negotiations with the opposition parties. i find that very distasteful. it is probably why we have ended up in the situation where we have ended up in the situation where we have, where we had a vote last night, 230 rebels against what can only be described as the worst deal possible from brussels. yes, fast moving. what we will look to do is to see what the plan b, as it were, would be from the government on

monday. that is obviously amendable. we will look what the amendment are and what amendments we want to put forward. hopefully we want to see some forward. hopefully we want to see some sort of remedy to the situation. bluntly, is there a scenario where labour could help the government get brexit through? we wa nt to government get brexit through? we want to ensure that there is a brexit for the people. whatever brexit for the people. whatever brexit is there forjobs and the economy and businesses... could you do that within the 72 days without a general election? that probably is down to theresa may, notjeremy corbyn. i hear already that theresa may has been setting red lines on what discussions might take place. we will have one red line with these discussions and that will be an absolute guarantee that there will not be a no—deal brexit. everything is on the table. it will be up to theresa may to accept what the labour party might wish to put forward. i hope she listens because she hasn't listened until now.

obviously, since the labour party conference, people talked about the order things might happen within the party, jeremy corbyn might be under increased pressure tomorrow to seek a second vote, a people's vote. you have spoken against that. 71 labour mps signed a letter today calling for it. you could probably round that up to a hundred but it is less than a majority of labour mps. is it something that you would like to see taken off the table? not at all. the party conference decides policy of the labour party. you were quoted as saying it was distasteful to have a second referendum. i'm a democrat as well my abide by what they members decide at the annual conference and the annual conference motion was quite clear, that we would seek to get a good dealfor brexit. if that did not happen, then we would seek to have a general election. we are still in that mode. we are not put

back by what has happened today with theresa may because no confidence vote tonight shows that there is absolutely no confidence of the tory mps in winning their seats. that is a major thing that has come today, they are frightened of a general election. we want a general election and it is notjust about brexit, for heaven sake. the country is on its knees. we have to get back and address the domestic problems facing the country. we want a brexit deal based on the jobs and economy, the country. we want a brexit deal based on thejobs and economy, a brexit deal with a customs union, a brexit deal with a customs union, a brexit deal with a customs union, a brexit deal which allows access to the single market. looking up the jobs, the economy, the environment, and a friendship, a cordial comradeship with the other eu states. if she does not cross those lines, if she cannot cross those lines, if she cannot cross those lines at the same time keep her party together, would the labour

party wa nt party together, would the labour party want to bring another motion of confidence in the government?” would think it is absolutely impossible for theresa may to bring her party together. if she decides on one thing, the other side will disagree. if she decides on another thing, the other side will disagree. we have to get serious and get a brexit deal that satisfies the best interests of the people in this country. to satisfy the best interests of working people, the best interests in business, so we can get back to looking after the domestic situation which is a failing ordinary people in the country. as politicians, we have got to get together and negotiate. but we to get together and negotiate. but we will not accept a no deal puts it under any terms. you might be in a position in some weeks where there isa position in some weeks where there is a general election and you will have to decide whether you are don't have to decide whether you are don't have to decide whether you are don't have to campaign for remain or brexit and that is a conundrum for the party because as we were talking

about, if you go with the majority of labour voters, are you going to forsa ke of labour voters, are you going to forsake the labour voters who voted brexit in the north—east and north—west? brexit in the north—east and north-west? what will happen is that each political party has a process to develop their manifesto and the labour party is the same, we are a members led party. at the right time we members led party. at the right time we will come forward with the proposals from the membership, from the trade unions, the constituency parties, from everybody within the membership of the labour and trade union movement. at that stage we put everything on the table and when i say everything, i mean everything. we will have a discussion and we will come up with a manifesto. what that might mean at that point in time, i really haven't got any idea. but there will be pressure from all sides because this country is split on brexit. would you accept you can't go into a general election

with the ambiguity that labour is followed until this point? you would either have to be that we are remaining or leaving? if we are successful and i sincerely hope we are, it's that ethnic successful in getting a general election, sooner rather than later, next week rather than next month there will not be any beauty. we will have the discussion, our manifesto will set out clearly what the position is with regard to brexit. good to see you, thank you for sparing your time. we will be back at the top of the hour. if you'rejustjoining us, you can see the result of the confidence motion. the government has won it, 325 306, but as the dup pointed out afterwards, without the dup folks, the government would have lost —— the dup votes. and they want more movement on the backstop. difficult times for theresa may. she is meeting party leaders that you would have heard that labour other

morning they drop dashwood as she drops no deal if they are to engage in those discussions fully. plenty more to come. hello. we end the week on a colder note, certainly to how we started the week, with some sleet and snow in the forecast. the reason is this area of low pressure pulling out into the near continent and that is opening the floodgates to the arctic and this cold air will be pushing south across the uk tonight, also bring some sleet and snow to northern parts of scotland where some of the snow will be settling in the hills across northern scotland. there is a band of rain moving southwards overnight, could be some sleet in that as well as the air turns much colder. there will be a risk of ice in central and northern areas, watch out for that, temperatures falling close to freezing in towns and cities but even colder out in the country. we start tomorrow on a cold and frosty note, watch out for the early ice in central and northern areas, and we continue with the sleet and snow showers particularly in northern and eastern scotland, being driven on by a strong and bitterly cold

northerly wind which will feed wintry showers into the east of england as well. perhaps a bit more prolonged in east anglia for a time as that front eventually clears away. elsewhere, a lot of crisp sunshine to start the day. we hold on to the wintry showers across northern and eastern parts of the country with that strong and bitter winter throughout the afternoon but elsewhere, thanks to that ridge of high pressure, it's actually quite a glorious day with plenty of crisp winter sunshine but colder than we have been used to with temperatures in the low to mid single figures. that ridge of high pressure continues to push eastwards on thursday night into friday so we will have a cold and frosty start to friday but this next feature will move into the western areas, bringing more cloud and outbreaks of rain, sleet and snow. we think the rain will be mainly over the hills but as it meets the cold air on friday, you could start to see some on lower levels in central and southern scotland and perhaps parts of wales and south—west england.

another chilly day, not quite as cold as thursday but largely dry with some sunshine in eastern areas. heading into friday evening and overnight, it looks like that mixture of rain, sleet and snow will push slowly eastwards but will tend to fizzle out so it is not looking bad for the weekend, mostly dry, on the chilly side with the best of the sunshine will be on sunday and more cloud on saturday. this is a bbc new special, live from westminster where theresa may has survived a vote of no confidence in her government. she won by 19 votes with the support of conservative and unionist mps who voted against her brexit bill yesterday i do not take this responsibility lightly, and my government will continue its work to increase our prosperity, guarantee our security and to strengthen our union. the prime minister invited other party leaders to meet her — beginning tonight.

labour's leader said first she must rule out a no—deal brexit. the government must remove clearly, once and for all, the prospect