this is bbc news, i'm martine croxall. the headlines at 8pm. the duke of edinburgh has visited a hospitalfor a precautionary check—up following yesterday's car crash in norfolk. this eyewitness described the moment he pulled the duke to safety. he was able to turn over. that was the first time i saw his face. and i realised i was holding the duke of edinburgh. a buckingham palace spokesman said contact has been made with the two woman injured in the collision, and well wishes exchanged. president trump and the north korean leader, kimjong un will meet for their second summit at the end of february. a prescription problem — patients complain of long delays in getting painkillers and anti—depressants, as pharmacists warn of shortages in over 80 common medicines. three men are jailed for life for murdering five people when they blew up a shop in leicester, in an attempted insurance scam. season's greetings for one essex art dealer — who has bought banky‘s latest artwork for a six—figure sum. steve ca rell and timothy

steve carell and timothy salome come together in the beautiful boy the story of a father trying to save his teenage son from drug addiction. hear what mark kermode thought about that and the rest of this week's releases in the film review. good evening, and welcome to the bbc news. buckingham palace has announced that the duke of edinburgh has been to hospitalfor a check up, after being involved in a car crash at sandringham last night. doctors have confirmed that he had no injuries of concern. police in norfolk say they're investigating the crash and will take ‘any appropriate action‘. an eyewitness who helped the prince who's 97 out of his overturned landrover car, described the scene

of the collision, at a road junction near the sandringham estate, as "horrendous". the woman driving the other vehicle in the crash was treated in hospitalfor cuts, while herfemale passenger broke her wrist. a nine—month old baby who was also in their car, wasn't hurt. our home affairs correspondent, daniel sandford reports from sandringham. it was the devastating car crash that the queen's 97—year—old husband simply walked away from. his land rover freelander had ended up on its side, and a nine—month—old baby boy had been taken unharmed from the other car. roy warne was the first to the scene, telling me what had initially caught his eye. i saw a car somersaulting across the road from my right. it was tumbling. it was turning over. he rushed to help the clearly elderly driver of what was a land rover freelander, but at first the man's legs were trapped. when his left leg moved, his right leg became free and he was able to turn over

and that was the first time i saw his face and i realised i was holding the duke of edinburgh, and i said something to myself, something like, "blimey", but probably a bit stronger. roy warne then helped the duke out of the car, through the sunroof. he walked away from his car and asked if other people were all right. so, his kind of immediate concern at that point seemed to be for the well—being of the people travelling in the other vehicle? he was much more concerned about other people than about himself. in the aftermath, the duke told police the low winter sun had been a problem yesterday afternoon. he mentioned that he was dazzled by the sun, which would have been directly in front of him from the direction of his travel, would have been right in his eyes at horizon level. police are still looking into the crash which they say they're going to investigate just

like any other road traffic accident, but it seems that what happened is with the sun low there will nowrbe questiens daniel sandford, bbc news. three men have beenjailed for life for murdering five people, in an explosion at a shop in leicester last february. aram kurd and arkan ali will each

serve a minimum of 38 years, while hawkar hassan was given 33 years. shortly after 7pm, a massive explosion in the basement of a shop. its magnitude meant that it destroyed the entire building, and killed the five people inside it. three men were responsible — hawkar hassan, arkan ali and aram kurd. this afternoon, all were sentenced to life injailfor murder. today marks the end of a long and complex investigation and will provide, i hope, some closure to the families, whose strength, resolve and dignity throughout the last year has been nothing short of remarkable. the men deliberately caused the explosion as part of a plan to profit from a false insurance claim. their victims, 46—year—old

mary ragoobar, her two teenage sons, sean and shane, shane's girlfriend, 18—year—old leah reek. all were enjoying a quiet sunday evening in theirflat. i don't think you ever get over it. no. it's still not real, if you know what i mean? we know she's gone, but to see her walk out the house and never, ever see her again... yeah. it hurts all the time, doesn't it? yeah. also killed in the polish supermarket below the flat, 22—year—old viktorija ijevleva, a co—conspirator who they left to die because she knew too much about their plans. this empty space is a constant reminder of what happened last february on that incredibly cold evening. this community still feels the shock of the fire that resonated around this city. jose ragoobeer said his

world was shattered after losing his wife and sons. his youngest son, scotty, was the only one to survive the blast. every day i cry. i cried every day, because everything you do... you think of them. thejudge described the men as exceptionally callous and deceitful, who, he said, haven't shown the slightest bit of remorse for their wicked crimes. sima kotecha, bbc news, leicester. in the last hour the white house has announced that us president donald trump will will hold a second summit with north korean leader kim jong—un, at the end of february. tthey last met in singapore in june. rumours of another meeting have been circulating after a senior north korean negotiator met with president trump in washington this afternoon. our washington correspondent barbara plett usher is at the hotel where the us secretary of state is meeting the negotiator

the negotiator kim yong—chol. who has the most to gain from this summit? i move back into the barrel as you can see what the meeting between secretary of state and kim yong—chol. who has the most to gain? we know that president trump has wa nted we know that president trump has wanted the summit for a while. he is presented to the criticism that his approach is not working. he claims any sort of success with north korea to bf is making and he believes his personal relationship with kim jong—il and is very effective and he wa nts to jong—il and is very effective and he wants to get in the same room with him again. of course there will be television in the summit and that is mr trump's style. but kentjong—un is also very eager to have this summit. there have been attempts throughout the last six months by the state department to get negotiations going on the denuclearisation. they have quite a ha rd denuclearisation. they have quite a hard line in the sense that they

think you need to be made clear ice, dismounted nuclear weapons first before we give you any sanctions. —— any relief from sanctions. he has pushed against that and become angry about that saying that we have taken about that saying that we have taken a certain number of steps and we should have some kind of reward for that. he does want to speak directly to mrtrump about that. he does want to speak directly to mr trump about that, to talk about what sort of arrangement that be made. at least this is what we understand. to get this process moving. given what is happening at home how ultimately be for mr trump to focus on policy for a while? he has had a lot of distractions at home. he has this issue with his former personal lawyer, having said that he was told to lie on mr trump ‘s behalf. that is a big story today. so he has that investigation closing in and he had a shutdown of government at the moment in which he is and a head—to—head battle with the democrats. that is striking out. yes, i think he would like to have a

foreign policy success as he would describe. to taken away from all that. that this is going to happen at the end of february. that is quite a long way away in washington time these days so we will see how things are looking by them. thank you. let's cross over to salford where we can speak to dr sojin lim — a senior lecturer in north korean studies at the university of central lancashire. thank you forjoining us. we had our correspondent say that the end of february is quite a long way away. how likely is it that you think that this summit will go ahead without too much on and off? today is a meeting between trump and macro wa nted meeting between trump and macro wanted more than an hour, it was about 90 minutes. that means that they could have something productive indeed. but at the same time the usa need to think about that, in between those time frames that is how much

they could agree upon. because of that i thought it would not be about denuclearisation or easing sanctions, but something lighter than the real issue. something like for example, icbm, north korea giving up intercontinental ballistic missile. at the same time the united states and the united nations sanction partially can be east, or the united states can partially take different measures against the bilateral sanctions against north korea. we know that mike pompeo has been involved recently in these discussions. today. how important will it be for north korea that it is president trump who takes part in peace negotiations? if you think about what happened in november last year, kim yong—chol was about to

come but he all of a sudden cancelled the meeting because he knew that trump would not meet him. at this time make succeeded in meeting trump. north korea ‘s message is that they are meeting the president of the united states director, that if someone else. because of that it was very important for north korea to show that kim yong—chol met trump and for a longer time. what has changed for either side since the first summit? for either side since the first summit? m 4 hr "r,— either side since the first summit? for ts? itwas et ' ' ' ' either side since the first summit? for ts? itwas veryze' ' ' symbolic. but the second summit should be something more meaningful. and detailed. because of that, trump needs to think about what could be more meaningful rather than sending the messages. now that they can meet, it is something not different from the president of south korea meeting the united states president. the meeting itself will not be that

much meaningful now. but the context and contents are the most important thing for them. of course wherever we mentioned north korea we have to think about the influence that china has on pyongyang. what will the chinese feel bf the second summit, should it take place? there is a possibility that north korea wants to invite china for a three party talk. before it was north korea who wa nted talk. before it was north korea who wanted to have the direct discussion with the united states, but now the north korea realise that the china and us trade work can be a very good way that north korea can use. so because of that, there is a possibility that north korea could invite china because china also wa nted invite china because china also wanted to take part. japan also wa nts to ta ke wanted to take part. japan also wants to take apart, but does not have big bargaining power in this discussion but china now does.

because of that maybe there's a possibility it will not only be bilateral but can be trilateral for second summit. thank you very much for your time. thank you. the prime minister has spent the day speaking to other european leaders, and meeting members of her cabinet, to discuss the future of her brexit deal, overwhelmingly rejected here's our political correspondent ben wright reports. mr gove, are you confident of getting the brexit deal that you want? what now? today, the prime minister continued to listen, with cabinet ministers trooping in and out to share their advice with the prime minister, who has a brexit deal the house of commons hates and the eu insists cannot be changed. tight—lipped, but for brexiteers, some red lines on trade must stay. 1:2; t’iisééiii £57}; 774 7 if we stayed in a customs union. the reason for that is, in a customs union, with the european union,

we would have to apply european trade law, without having a say in how it's made. he's happy to sign agreements with australia, but he won't sign up to a customs union compromise that might lead to cross—party support in parliament for a new deal. while some in theresa may's divided cabinet are telling her that leaving the european union without a deal would be ok, others, particularly a camp dubbed "the gang of five", are urging the prime minister to find a cross—party solution to this crisis, to compromise and to rule out what they think would be the disaster of a no—deal brexit. and, of course, there's very little time left. on monday, the prime minister will make a statement in the commons, setting out the government's plan b, and mps will start to put forward their alternative ideas, as amendments to that motion. the following tuesday will then see a series of crunch votes on all of that. and, as things stand, exactly two months later, the uk is set to leave the eu, whether parliament has agreed a brexit deal or not. the former foreign secretary toured a pro—brexit business this morning,

keen to tell the prime minister to fundamentally renegotiate her deal with the eu and under no circumstances to delay telling the british public after all this hoo—hah that we have abandoned the project of leaving the european union would be so utterly pathetic. it would reinforce people's view that there is some kind of plot going on at westminster to stop this thing. here, competing ideas to break the political paralysis are being argued over and many mps do see the merits in asking for some more time. if we need further negotiation and article 50 is extended for a few months, let's say until the summer, then i don't have a problem. a few months. and i don't think the public, they are fairly reasonable on this, and wouldn't have a problem either. before leaving downing street for a working weekend, theresa may spoke to eu leaders, but her headache is here — trapped between the demands of her divided party and a fractured parliament. ben wright, bbc news, westminster.

well, we saw in that report there that the international trade secretary, liam fox, said that he did not believe the uk could have an independent trade policy if we stayed in a customs union. with ten weeks to go until this country is due to leave the eu, he admitted today that none of the a0 trade agreements, he's worked on, has been finalised. for more on this, let's speak to meredith crowley, who's a reader in international economics at cambridge university. shejoins us from cambridge now. thank you very much forjoining us. what is the hold up on these a0 deals which not so long ago liam fox said would be very easy to strike? so there's two different types of deals the uk government is trying to negotiate. 0ne deals the uk government is trying to negotiate. one is a rollover deal. they are just trying to get the counterparties, say canada orjapan, to agree to give birth in the same

type of trade agreement that britain currently enjoys. with that country through its membership in the eu. in some sense, the stills it shouldn't be too complicated. but the problem is these countries don't want to begin to really negotiate that deal until britain is outside the eu. and if they don't know what britain ‘s relationship is with the eu, those countries don't want to commit to something. so it is tricky. you can't really negotiate the deal until after you know what the relationship it is with the eu. that is the fundamental problem. that is why it has not gotten done yet. how problematic is the leave date of the 29th of march, assuming we get a deal by then everything should be 0k, should it? if we get a bail by the 29th of march everything should go along smoothly. essentially the withdrawal is going to keep britain ‘s relationship with the eu pretty much like it is today. and it starts a period of transition during which they could be some hard work of negotiating likely future relationship is to be. how the two

countries are going to trade. what types of immigration policy they will have, etc. if we don't have a withdrawal deal in place by the end of march, it can be real chaos for the uk. we have heard that many people have expressed a concern that trade deals cannot be struck independently, freely, if we are tied into some form of customs union. there is also the union —— issue of the backstop as well. how problematic is it in your view? issue of the backstop as well. how problematic is it in your view?“ the uk remains part of the european customs union, it is not possible to strike a separate free—trade deal with the united states or canada. so that just cannot happen. with the united states or canada. so thatjust cannot happen. a customs union means that the uk ‘s trade policy would be conducted centrally through the european union. what has been proposed for the future idea that the uk has is that they want a very tight relationship with the eu that has some features of a customs union, but is essentially a

free—trade agreement. in the idea that they have in the uk is that they that access to year up, but then they want to have the freedom to go ahead and negotiate say a different terrace on imports of auto parts from japan than the one that germany has —— a different tarrif. it is not clear that this is a valuable thing to have particularly, but that is where the current straight strategy lights. my are we in this position caligula we are only a few weeks to go until we are due to leave the european union, when charlie it is obvious how tricky and complex trade deals are to strike? there's two different things. one is the question of why didn't we agree on withdrawal agreement and the second issue is why is it so hard for a country like the uk to go ahead and negotiate a new free—trade deal with new ceiling oi’ new free—trade deal with new ceiling or with the us or with japan. —— with new zealand or with the us or japan. a lot of the stuff you want

any trade agreement or deep integration between two economies. so you go in and you look at domestic regulation in the two countries and you see if you can somehow harmonize cells are smooth bells if you get greater trade. also the uk is really interested in negotiating services agreements. so they want to be able to sell banking services to customers and middle income countries, other places around the world. when you do that, you really have to get into deep discussions with sav banking regulators of a foreign country, and thatis regulators of a foreign country, and that is a really much more complex negotiation. then something like just setting what a tarrif is going to be when you buy or sell a good between two countries. from the university of cambridge, thank you very much for your time. thank you. another big weekend of champions cup rugby is under way at murrayfield.

edinburgh are taking on french powerhouse montpellier, knowing that a win will see them into the quarterfinals forjust the third time in their history. and edinburgh have taken an early 6—0 lead... jaco van der walt slotting two penalties. a win tonight would also help glasgow qualify... it would be the first time that both scottish teams have made it out of the pool stage. newcastle are already out of the competition. they're trying to end a run of six successive defeats against three time winners toulon who are also out. newcastle leading 10—7 there. west ham have previously stated he is not for sale but yesterday their manager suggested he could leave if a deal sit at both parties. west ham's marko arnautovic has been left out of their squad for tomorrow's match against bournemouth. rumours continue that he'll be moving to china for a fee of around £35 million. west ham have previously said that

he's not for sale but yesterday, manager manuel pellegrini suggested he could leave if a deal suited both parties. they haven't commented on why he won't play tomorrow. norwich can move to second in the championship tonight with a win over birmingham at carrow road... and they started well with teemu pukki putting them ahead on 13 minutes. shay adams then equalised just seconds later for the visitors. but mario vrancic then restored norwich‘s lead. and tom treebull made it 3—1 with less than 25 minutes on the clock. the main upset today at the australian open came as defending champion caroline wozniacki was been knocked out, by maria sharapova. the five—time grand slam winner returned from a doping ban in april of 2017 — and has struggled with injuries since. but took a tight third set to secure what she said was a "really rewarding" victory. .. i thought it was, as usual, as expected, a physical map. didn't have to be. in some ways. but i felt like even in the longer rallies i did a good job of winning those. i put a lot of pressure on her. those we re put a lot of pressure on her. those were the rallies that i think many yea rs were the rallies that i think many years ago, she used to win, i thought he did a greatjob of getting a higher percentage of wins

in those. birthday girl angelique kerber thrashed australian wild card kimberly birrell 6—1 6—0, injust 58 minutes. the former world number one turned 31 today. while 2009 champion rafael nadal is also through to the last 16... there was lots of support for his opponent though — 19—year—old australian alex de minaur. despite the backing of the home crowd, nadal won in straight sets. he'll play tomas berdych on sunday. defending champion roger federer swept past american taylor fritz in straight sets but it was a lot tougher for the sixth seed marin cilic. he came from two sets down and saved two match points in a fourth set tiebreak before overcoming spain's fernando verdasco to reach the last 16. judd trump is through to the semi finals of snooker‘s masters after knocking out world number one mark selby. trump will play either neil robertson and barry hawkins who meet this evening the opening two frames took more than an hour, but trump found his groove to sprint 5—1 ahead.

fellow englishman selby pulled a frame back, but trump kept his cool in a battle of wits in the eighth frame to ease through. trump will face either barry hawkins or neil robertson. you can watch their quarter final livei on the red button or via the bbc sport website. that match is 2—2 at the mid session interval. that's all the sport for now. i'll have more for you in sportsday at 10:30pm. thank you very much. the bbc has learned there has been a big rise in the number of supplies for england. increased global demand and the rise of cost of materials have been blamed. here's how health correspondent, catherine burns. here's a truck which as you can see here has gone completely red. as we found, the realisation that another drug is running low. this main wholesaler - not gone completely wholesaler has ntfc gonetom‘pletely

wholesaler hes ntfc genetom‘pletely of wholesaler has not gone’som‘pletely of stock. now suddenly we're out of stock. now suddenly we're going to have to start shop around to make sure customers and our patients continue to get access to this medicine. it is not unusual for this medicine. it is not unusual for this to happen. problems with supply and demand for medicines. in fact every month the government agrees to pay a premium for some drugs where availability is low. what is unusual is the number of drugs they are doing this for. lists are published every month showing which medicines are in such short supply. injanuary 2015 there were 12. the highest number looking 2017, well before brexit became a pressing issue. at the end of last year there was a sergeant from a5 in the autumn to the most recent figure, 80. many of the most recent figure, 80. many of the shortages have been for commonly prescribed drugs like when used to treat high blood pressure and another which is a common anti—inflammatory. wendy tanner can struggle with everyday tasks. she has a condition which means that she is always in pain. she says her

medicine keeps it down to a manageable level. i've got tablets left for today and tomorrow and then they are gone. and i am worried. i ama they are gone. and i am worried. i am a bit scared about it. and it is stress. if you cannot get any in time she is going to have to take a less strong alternative. pharmacists say there is almost always something else to try, as long as people get their prescriptions and in good time. most people won't notice this and will still be getting their prescriptions filled as normal. but i have spoken to others who are really worried, especially people with long—term conditions. 0ne really worried, especially people with long—term conditions. one woman told me she has tracked down her medicines online in america. 0thers say they are sharing with friends. 0ne say they are sharing with friends. one man told me he is having to cut ta blets one man told me he is having to cut tablets and have to guess the right dosage. all of those had their own risks. there are several possible reasons why this is happening. from increased global demand to the rising cost of raw materials. some in the industry think there could be

an element of so—called unconscious stockpiling, along the supply chain ahead of a possible nokia brexit. but the government and others say there is no evidence that is happening. i don't think brexit is the factor at the moment. it is too early, we are too far away. one of the things we have is the nhs has been good at getting trucks at that price is. but of course the companies are involved globally. if they get a better price with smartness in the well it may well be the air supplying fells other countries and priority to the nhs and the uk. the government says it is working closely with the industry to make sure patients get the medicines they need. catherine burns, bbc news. thank you for joining us here. how much of a problem is this on a daily basis for pharmacists across england ? pharmacists are spending for much time trying to start medication at the moment. unfortunately that is taking away from valuable time with

patients. at the moment we can be contacted for or five wholesalers and be struggling to obtain what we would call bread and butter trucks, really. common drugs in my practise that i have been struggling to get hold of, things like naproxen and hrt medication. medication which might be used to treat a range of conditions. medication used for gout. it is very frustrating. what impact do you say it is having on patients' health? at the moment we are doing our absolute best. i think pharmacists across the country and pharmacy teams are being absolutely fabulous at keeping this from patients in a sense, and that we are ringing other pharmacies, we are co nsta ntly ringing other pharmacies, we are constantly onto the wholesalers but sometimes we can order medication from the wholesalers and then it simply does not come in. from too much time is being spent trying to do all this admin work, when actually it could be time better spent with patients doing what

pharmacy teams do best. they are cancelling patients on their medication and speaking to gps as well is a problem because we are wasting time of their time being wasted in getting prescriptions changed. as you might know, there is some tracked restaurants —— draft legislation on what it's got a serious shortage protocol which was laid before parliament today and it should come into force in early february 2019. and that might actually help us with this. the legislation is needed to support pharmacists. how much of the fish just down to supply and demand? if you want the drugs, you're going to just have to pay more for it? i'm not an expert on the supply and demand. with regards to big pharma. what i would say is that when patients are ordering through pharmacies we just patients are ordering through pharmacies wejust don't patients are ordering through pharmacies we just don't know you can have everything your list. we are going through exactly each item as we always do. where i work. it is very frustrating. i think the thing is as well, patients may sometimes feel frustrated at their pharmacy teams, that they are not being able

to get their medication. but actually as i said, we are doing our absolute best and almost hiding some of the problems that we are encountering from patients. what would you advise patients to do then, if they know they are running short of a drug that might be on the shortage list? i would encourage patients not to stockpile because that will actually cause further problems. what i would ask you to do is continue to reorder your medication seven days before you are going to run out. if you have got any medication at home, which you have got stockpiles of, then the first thing i would ask you to do is check the expiry dates on them. and make sure that you are using them up in an orderly fashion so that you are not using once which are later updated first. we have all had a responsibility. every part of the chain of medications that we help make sure that patients actually get their medication on time. but please, we are doing our absolute best to meet patient support. from the royal pharmaceutical society, thank you very much.

now it's time for a look at the weather with darren bett. hello good evening. it is staying colder this weekend. it has certainly been a cold day today after the very frosty start. there is still a little more sleet and snow to come, mainly over the hills of northern england and scotland for a while. some pockets of showery rain further south. much more cloud around overnight. it won't be as cold and frosty as it was last night. the frost isn't far away. we will have some clearer skies across northern scotland to give us some sunshine tomorrow. perhaps into east anglia. but elsewhere, cloudy skies. still some showers around. most of them towards wales and the southwest where they could be on the heavy side. get a bit of sunshine in the far southwest. temperatures could make 10 degrees. further north and east it is going to be a struggle at around a, 5 or 6 celsius. a little more frost around on sunday morning. but perhaps more sunshine too across england and wales. still some cloud too. we have got this band of cloud and rain and a bit of hill snow.

that is not really amounting to very much. with sunnier skies returning to scotland and northern ireland in afternoon. hello, this is bbc news. the headlines: buckingham palace say the duke of edinburgh has visited a hospital for a precautionary check—up following yesterday's car crash in norfolk. a spokesman for the palace also said contact has been made with the two woman injured in the collision, and well wishes exchanged. president trump will hold his second summit with the north korean leader kim jong—un at the end of february. pharmacists warn of a shortage in supply of many basic medicines, including painkillers and anti—depressants. three men are sentenced to life in prison for the murder of five people following an explosion in a shop in leicester in an attempted insurance scam. the international trade secretary liam fox admits the government has yet to finalise trade agreements with a0 countries less than three months until the uk leave the eu. and coming up, a close encounter

for one group of divers in hawaii who came up close and personal with a great white shark and lived to tell the tale. the latest work by the graffiti artist banksy, which appeared on the side of a garage in port talbot in december, has been sold privately for a "six—figure sum". entitled season's greetings, it depicts a child apparently enjoying snow falling, but the other side reveals it's actually ash from a fire. the new owner, john brandler, who runs a gallery in essex, joins us now. first of all congratulations on your new purchase. what attracted you to it? oh, i love it. ithink it is a classic brilliant banksy. it will turn out to be one of his five or ten most famous paintings, i think.

what makes you say that? it personifies what street art is all about. it is not a nice pretty campus to hang on the living room wall, it is not a nice piece to put into a westing gallery, this is a unique piece as opposed to a law of others, this is a unique on an exterior concrete wall where it was just found. there was no fanfare about it. not like the of her peace with was fanfare about it. this is just perfect. it's political, it is of the moment, personally i believe we are the last generation where we have time to do anything about pollution and we are the first generation that knows about the fact that if we pollute the air in port talbot, people in australia will be diluted down but they will suffer from that pollution and vice versa. and it's making a very strong

political comment with a lovely twist that if you look at the picture from one angle, if you live in your own little world, however big you think that is, if you live in your world and you look at the first part of the picture from one angle, it's just a first part of the picture from one angle, it'sjust a boy first part of the picture from one angle, it's just a boy standing with his sledge and the sledge implies it is snow. so the boy is standing there in the snow enjoying himself and then you pull back to a5 degrees onto the corner and you can see the actually the snow if the pollution from the blaze less than a metre from the blaze less than a metre from him. that is the beauty came of that shot, that juxtaposition. from him. that is the beauty came of that shot, thatjuxtaposition. but you mention, it is not a campus, it is on you mention, it is not a campus, it isona you mention, it is not a campus, it is on a wall. i had noticed that. it is on a wall. i had noticed that. it is not portable. what are you going to do with it? anything is portable.

not obviously. how are you going to move it? we are going to remove the unnecessary move it? we are going to remove the u nnecessa i’y excess move it? we are going to remove the unnecessary excess on the two walls and then clamp it and move it towards one corner and shaped piece. it cannot be broken. it is concrete blocks, not breeze blocks, so even with a diamond cutter, you cannot cut these blocks. so someone will need a new garage when you move it. do you own the whole garage? need a new garage when you move it. do you own the whole garage ?|j need a new garage when you move it. do you own the whole garage? i do now. i have discussed it with the man who sold it to me. and basically i have asked the council, because they are very keen to work with me, there is a development and the development is we want to use, i wa nt to development is we want to use, i want to use this as the key to get more important street art and street artists to port talbot to make port talbert a go to place rather than a go from place. so i want to take

another four, five, six, go from place. so i want to take anotherfour, five, six, seven, more banksy, damien hirst, otherstreet artists, things like that to port talbot, get some of the international artists that we know to paint on other big walls in the town so you go to the town and walk around the town and spend your money in the local cafes and spend money in the local cafes and spend money in the local cafes and spend money in the local newspapers and may stay in one of the hotels, whatever, so people will go to port talbot not to look at 1p but to look at several paintings and they will have to encompass the whole town. how much other street art have you already got that you can put into that exhibition? hundreds. have you? not all of international level art. but you are talking about new commissions in port talbot. yes, i

am talking about sanctioning new artist, some are internationally famous but not known as artists. 0ne can paint on a wall but never misses the edge of the picture or runs of the edge of the picture or runs of the space. he has an amazing eye. some of the light from blackpool a few years ago. so i'll ask you to do something because i have known him for years. i will ask an artist called my dog size, who does things everything literally, the end of a flattened tin can which he uses as a brush with two bristles on to commissions where it is nine stories high on the side of a building. and he is currently travelling and has been invited to go and paint on bob ma rley's been invited to go and paint on bob marley's house with a bob marley foundation. so he is now internationally but is not pop art, if you like. tell us about some of the other banksy works that you have got or would like to get your hands

on to be part of this project. one is the snake is small and mickey mouse. a big sculpture about two metres long. another is called lab rat and you notice people in london and it is 2.2 by 2.a m and that is and it is 2.2 by 2.a m and that is an early painting, no spraying, but an early painting, no spraying, but an early painting by him. i want to use one of the funniest ones, if you like, is one called a self—portrait because the banksy, you cannot see his face most of it is covered with a monkey mask. i like that sort of humour. i have another one and it is ofa humour. i have another one and it is of a tank, an armoured car. and around the base, there is a better title so i always wear a bowtie. it has rabbit ears that i do not wear. that has been used on several record cove rs. that has been used on several record covers. another one called happy choppers, which is apache helicopters with a bowtie around the rotor blade. so i like the ones where there is a bit of an edge to

them. i have another one called britannia, which is a very famous one it was used in the bristol show and is painted onto the sheet metal that used to secure derelict buildings. and it shows britannia sitting in her chair with a line beside her and eight cctv camera over her shoulder. they are the ones slightly edgy, that sort of thing. another artist i want to take is a man called blake. heat started the whole street art movement. he was doing in paris and then banksy realised this was a brilliant idea and took what was a very small parochial way of doing our and made it globally famous. so any exhibition of street art, any major exhibition of street art, any major exhibition should in my opinion start with him. so we will put him in to start it and then banksy and then people like pure evil and mick walker and all these people. been a kind is that usually if you see

every work of a beautifully graphic letters, world famous. there is one hanging in the oval office. it is bringing world recognised artists and this particular piece i want to use in port talbot because that is where it belongs. it belongs in that setting. how much enthusiasm for what you are proposing is there in port talbot quiz? you have to have the cooperation of the town. absolutely. i met people from the assembly and from the council. and they are very very enthusiastic but obviously this is the trouble with organisations. you get committees, it has got to be discussed and signed off on by lots people. they are working on this over the weekend. we have selected a number of sites that would be suitable from my point of view. 0ne

of sites that would be suitable from my point of view. one in particular but we have selected a number of sites that now they have to discuss with the welsh assembly and with the council to see which ones we could actually use. how helpful is street art in getting people involved in art in getting people involved in art generally? because a lot of the artwork can be very off—putting to people, can it not? it can be quite intimidating if you do not know anything about it. how might this project welcome people in who have never really engaged with art before. the point about the reason that artists become so celebrated is because if it is handled correctly, you embrace people. you go into some galleries, especially in london, and the first thing they do is look you up the first thing they do is look you up and down and decide if you are worth talking to. if you walk into my gallery in brentwood, i am lucky to say you what is your coffee? have

a look at some galleries and a lot of the west end galleries because they have huge openings, a lot of them have to sell you something to exist. my overheads, i am them have to sell you something to exist. my overheads, iam in them have to sell you something to exist. my overheads, i am in essex and my overhead is negligible. i do not sell art. i display art, i talk about it and if you want to buy it, thatis about it and if you want to buy it, that is fine, you can buy it. i do not want to sell you something, i wa nt not want to sell you something, i want you to understand what you are looking at. so i want to embrace you asa looking at. so i want to embrace you as a person. i want you to know more about what you are looking at before you choose to buy something. whereas, as i say, in london, there is an awful lot of viciousness because they cannot justify the is an awful lot of viciousness because they cannotjustify the high prices. i would like you to invite me or us prices. i would like you to invite me or us to port talbot when you get this off the ground. no problem. i will hold you to that.

congratulations on your purchase. cani congratulations on your purchase. can i say one thing? and that is i have handled a lot of banksy works, i began dealing in the bank in 2003, and this is the first one that... there are others that i like, the self—portrait and britannia this is the first one i am proud to own. i feel honoured to on this one. the people of porto but will be glad you are keeping it there for a while. thank you very much. i enjoyed talking to you. thank you indeed. you might think that no—one would be daft enough to swim with a great white shark, but a group of divers in hawaii had a close encounter with one of the huge predators and lived to tell the tale.