tv BBC News at Five BBC News January 21, 2019 5:00pm-6:00pm GMT
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today at five: theresa may has returned to parliament to try to ease concerns about how to avoid a hard border in ireland. and — after last week's heavy defeat in parliament she promises to be more "flexible" over brexit. i will be talking further to collea g u es i will be talking further to colleagues this week including the dup about how we can meet our commitments to be but northern ireland. —— the people of northern ireland. but the labour leader accused her of being in "deep denial" and said her deal was "undeliverable. " the prime minister also announced the £65 fee eu nationals would have had to pay for the right to stay in britain after brexit has been scrapped. the other main stories on the bbc news at five. a controlled explosion
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is carried out in londonderry after a royal mail van was hijacked at gunpoint. it comes two days after a bomb attack in the city. and a teenager has appeared in court, charged with the murder of 14—year—old jaden moodie. it's five o'clock — our top story: theresa may has been briefing mps about how she will attempt to build a majority for her brexit deal — after last week's crushing defeat in the commons. mrs may said the government had recognised there had to be changes — and had been listening to views from all parties. she confirmed she was looking for changes to the northern ireland backstop agreed with the eu — which is designed to avoid a return to a hard border in ireland.
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and mrs may announced that the £65 fee for eu citizens to secure the right to live in uk after brexit will be scrapped. but the labour leaderjeremy corbyn called it "groundhog day. our political correspondent iain watson has been following the day's developments. the prime minister meeting her new zealand counterpart in downing street, a signal the uk will rely and global trade deals after brack said. but still no deal with the eu. the reception theresa may got in parliament was less cordial. following billboard last week it is clear the government '5 policy had to change.— clear the government '5 policy had to change. — meet clear the government '5 policy had to change.— meet following the boat. this week she began the process of
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trying to win the dup over by addressing concerns of the northern ireland backstop, an arrangement which will see the uk staying close to the eu to abide hardboard.” which will see the uk staying close to the eu to abide hardboard. i will be talking to colleagues this week including those in the dup about how the commuter obligations the people of northern ireland and ireland which will command the greatest possible support in the house. i will then take these conclusions back to the eu. that means about as will have to make concessions they have so far resisted. she promises to consult parliament more often in future but not announced eu citizens in the uk will no longer have to pay a fee to stay after brexit. when we roll out the scheme in full on the 30th of march the government will waive the application fee so that there is no financial barrier for any eu nationals who wish to stay. the labour leader welcomed this
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announcement but denounced cross— party announcement but denounced cross—party talks and other issues asa sham. cross—party talks and other issues as a sham. no opposition party politician came out of the talks with the same response. there was no flexibility, no negotiations, nothing has changed. he set out his demands for taking part in any talks. the first thing she must do is recognise a clear majority in this house against leaving without a deal. and rule out no deal. but how does this place about no deal? a cross— party does this place about no deal? a cross—party group of mps are trying to seize power from central government and given to parliament. if theresa may can get a deal agreed they want mps to instructor to delay oui’ they want mps to instructor to delay our departure from the eu. if by the 26th of february government has not got as deal through it would have to bring a motion before the house of commons which would allow the house
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to vote to instruct the prime minister to extend article 50 and avoid an ordeal brexit on the 29th of march. the snp i asking for the delay in leaving the eu to consider the option of another referendum. the prime minister insisted the united kingdom must leave the european union on the 29th of march. that is not consistent with the desire to discuss our peoples of thought. all the conditions be taken off the table. —— people's vote. here we are with another bleak off—camera kicking and the truth is, prime minister, mr speaker, nothing has changed. —— another week of time kicking. -- can. the prime minister is saying in effect to brexiteers
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hold your noses and support my deal otherwise remain as it may try and prevent brexit. —— remain supporters. i have always been in favour of getting a deal ijust do not think the withdrawal agreement means the demands of leaving the european union. at the problems i changed it is not so much question of softening as a new reality to deal with. brexit is still proving divisive inside and outside parliament. despite days of cross— party parliament. despite days of cross—party talks agreement seems some way off. let's speak to our chief political correspondent vicki young. many people are as the prime ministers plan b because i'm i'm like a revised version of planning.
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it feels as if unless she is forced to do something else she will try and push through the deal she has already got. it is a deal with a lot of elements to it and she has isolated, probably quite rightly the backstop as being the major problem so backstop as being the major problem so she will speak to the dup and others about what it would be to get it through parliament and go back to the eu and say can you get me that because if you can i think i can deliver the steel. unless she is forced to do something else and the only way to do that for mps is come up only way to do that for mps is come up with an alternative plan. they merely need to coalesce around an alternate deal of an alternative such as the saccharine referendum. —— second referendum or revoke article 50. she challenged those people who said take no deal of the table and she said it is not that easy. you would need to revoke article 50 which means uk stays in the eu which is what some in the house of commons want to do you have
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to have an alternative deal. i think thatis to have an alternative deal. i think that is also a challenge tojeremy corbyn. she was very critical of them for not taking part in those talks. he would turn round and say it's up to you to bring for the mag/ thing that will unite the whole house. she still focusing on her own party and through an arrangement with the dup because of the longer term she has to cover and to govern she needs all these people. —— she has to govern. let's just remind ourselves exactly what the so—called backstop is all about... after brexit the two parts of ireland could be in different customs and regulatory regimes — meaning goods may need to be checked at the border. neither the uk, eu or the irish government want that. so the backstop is a safety net that only comes into play should the uk and the eu fail to reach a trade deal once britain leaves the eu. all parties agree that a backstop is needed to maintain cross—border cooperation and protect the good friday peace agreement.
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and, as it stands, the backstop means northern ireland would stay aligned to some rules of the eu single market — but only if another solution cannot be found by the end of the transition period in december 2020. and our europe correspondent damian grammaticas is in brussels where eu foreign ministers have been meeting — theresa may seems to be still focussed on a breakthrough on the backstop — how likely are the eu to give ground on that? i think there will be a bit of confusion because they were hoping, all the foreign ministers came here today further meetings so they were looking to london for some clear direction and what they have got its aspiration, i think, direction and what they have got its aspiration, ithink, and not much more. theresa may said she would go
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and talk to the dup in northern ireland are then come to brussels and try to renegotiate something on the backstop. but that does not give them any detail to work with and i think that will be the problem here. we know today that met the irish foreign minister and they can be the message that the eu is still negotiating as one. the polish foreign minister today floated a suggestion of five year time limit on the irish backstop. very quickly that was batted away as freelancing by him. the irish and came out and said that the text that includes the backstop is not up for renegotiation at this stage and what they have all been saying today and indicating is that what could be done is there could be some flexibility on the accompanying the second document
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that was agreed about the future relationship, the future ties and the implication is that theresa may can come with a more radical vision for closer relationship with the eu then the eu would respond very favourably and that could deal with those irish issues that way. but the actual text of that withdrawal agreement, the crucial treaty part of it, the message from here is not up of it, the message from here is not upfor of it, the message from here is not up for negotiation and i don't think they have had anything to that moves that forward. —— have had anything. we can speak the conservative mp and former cabinet minister, nicky morgan, who joins me from the houses of parliament. you voted for the deal. but the prime that lost by a massive majority, 230 boards. is there anything you heard her say today
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likely to get it to next time?|j don't likely to get it to next time?” don't think today so much apart from the fact the prime minister was actually right that if mps like me wa nt actually right that if mps like me want there to be a deal and i support her look agreement last week, there has got to be a deal put in place. but your right to say that today was not a day for detail, it was not a day for saying exactly what the primers that would roll it back to russell ‘s worth —— what the primers that would go back to russell —— brussels where. she clearly wa nts russell —— brussels where. she clearly wants a majority in house of commons. today has been holding pattern. the next big day will be next tuesday when her motion is debated and i suspect there will be a lot of amendments put down by mps across the house which might begin to chart exactly where that consensus can be found in parliament. what do you say to the allegations she is effectively running down the clock now and
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focusing more than anything i'm trying to get the dup and the brexiteers wing of the tory party on board particularly on the backstop? i think that this true and we know the prime minister has been having conversations with the dup and lots of members of parliament on our benches and also write the way across the house. there is a concern that time is very short. i visited in your manufacturer in the east midlands is morning. for them they are midlands is morning. for them they a re really midlands is morning. for them they are really having to boot contingency provisions in place right now about how they will continue to do business if there is not a deal on the 29th of march. that is why a number of mps are now putting down amendments proposing bills and pieces of legislation to say if the government cannot get an agreement in parliament will to step in and request the government extends the article 50 notice period
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for the something else to demonstrate without consensus can be found in parliament for deal. it is all uncharted territory and it would be much better if the prime minister we re be much better if the prime minister were able to piece together an agreement which does command majority support in the house of commons. but we know how challenging matters. where would you stand on those parliamentary attempts to either extend article 50 rule out no deal? we have heard people like liam fox say that parliament effectively tries to steal brexit for the british people. i don't agree with that at all. i think what parliament is trying to do is try to bring some way forward to the brexit process. the government has had over two and a half yea rs the government has had over two and a half years now since the referendum to provide that way forward , referendum to provide that way forward, that path, that agreement that commands a majority in the house of commons. we know that is not yet happened. i think it is absolutely right that members of parliament, we hear from constituents on all sides of the debate. the rest of the debate. the
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rest, no deal are very real and i think they must therefore be addressed. a smack on the risks of an ordeal. the uk should not be prepared to leave without any agreement in place. i support the yvette cooper bill to see can get agreement approved and if not the secretary of state government would be requested to extend article 50. i would much rather not do that and i would much rather not do that and i would much rather see an agreement in place. that is exactly what liam fox was talking about, stealing brexit from the people. extending article 50 is not the same as scrapping the article 50 notice, it is just saying we need more time to put an agreement and the deal.” much more time is a question. put an agreement and the deal.” much more time is a questionm put an agreement and the deal.” much more time is a question. it is a very good question. in our bell, suggested as the 31st of december of this year and the eu have not indicated they would even give as much time as that. but there has to
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bea much time as that. but there has to be a period of time respecting the european parliament elections and the new commission that has to be put in place. if parliament can demonstrate with getting towards a position, that is lots of talk honestly about customs and regulatory alignment and they could get that position the eu can see a deal is being formed, something the majority of mps would sign up for, that shows that actually extension would be worthwhile because a deal can be reached. i do think they're both sides want there to be a deal. that is something we should remember. thank you very much for your time. as we've been hearing, the prime minister confirmed the government will now waive the £65 fee for eu citizens applying to stay after brexit. the new "settled status" will be awarded by the home office through online registration. under the government settlement scheme, eu nationals already resident here continuously for five years, are now able to apply for settled status to remain in the uk afterjuly 2021. those here for less can apply for pre—settled
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status, until eligible for full settlement rights. the rules do not apply for irish citizens in the uk. before the scrapping of the fee was announced, the bbc spoke to the owner of a greek restaurant in cambridge and his british wife about the new system. i have been running this restaurant in cambridge for the past six years andi in cambridge for the past six years and i have been in this country for 16 years. at this moment we have put other plans on hold. we do not know what the future will be. we're just a little bit stressed to see what will happen with our settlement status. i was born in the united kingdom and i have been married to george for ten years. i am fortunate to be british and have been born
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here. georgia is not so fortunate and does not hold british citizenship. being a european was as good as that. but now we're worried about what the future holds for us and ourfamily. about what the future holds for us and our family. what guarantees do we have that a future government mightjust we have that a future government might just scrap her status applications and makers and legal citizens in this country? it makes you feel scared. and anxious and worried about my future, notjust in england but as a person in the world. with me now is axel antoni, from the 3 million campaign, which is calling for eu citizens living in the uk to keep their existing rights after brexit. we know that from today people can apply for settled status. they were being told they had to pay £65 for
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that they were an adult. now that has been scrapped, what is your reaction to the prime ministers saying that been scrapped? we're very pleased the prime minister has listened to us and she mentioned us today and parliament saying we had been campaigning for it. we have been campaigning for it. we have been campaigning for it. we have been campaigning very hard for for this one hurdle settled status to be scrapped together with unions like unison and today and that we're success. removing one of the hurdles to make settled status and success. it isa to make settled status and success. it is a little bit late in the day to be scrapping is be because some people presumably have already paid it because the scheme started the day to mark the scheme started in this trial is back in november. so about 50,000 people —— 30,000 people have paid the £65 book and a prime minister said it will be reimbursed. she said it in parliament. other people feeling generally, eu citizens living in the uk, about brexit? we had in that film report
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that some people are still feeling very anxious and concerned and worried and uncertain despite all the assurances they have been given. exactly. we have effectively been put on notice injuly 2016 straight after the referendum when we were made in negotiation bargaining chip. for anybody to understand what it means, it's a bit like being put at risk at work for redundancy and having to wait over a thousand days to know whether use still have what you have. and having to be applied for your job. you have. and having to be applied for yourjob. we're you have. and having to be applied for your job. we're reapplying you have. and having to be applied for yourjob. we're reapplying for staying in this country which we call home. are you saying that eu people in the uk shouldn't have to register and anyway and reapply for any kind of status? there's a big difference between registering people and making people reapply for a new status. what we have is an application system which means it can be rejected. why not make a registration system? that is a very simple and why not make it local where people can go rather than an
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online that puts many people don't know how to use? do you think people are being rejected will be rejected? so far the trousers sure nobody has been rejected which is good news but we don't know. the way they are looking at the status is by looking at government records. if the government records are incomplete or incorrect, people have to provide more further evidence. some people might not have so much. that could be people who have been retired or people who were husband—and—wife or somebody who did not work. there might be people who are victims of domestic abuse accountable to the next husband to get the paperwork needed to prove their status. i think there was a real risk year. —— i think there is a real risk year. plenty more from here at westminster — but for now it's back to clive in the studio. (pres) thanks ben —
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let's take a look now at some of the day's other top stories. police in northern ireland have confirmed they're dealing with a second security alert today in londonderry, involving a hijacked vehicle. on saturday night, a bomb exploded in a hijacked delivery vehicle outside the city's courthouse. 0ur ireland correspondent chris page has more from belfast. two security alerts in londonderry at the moment. both involving hijacked fans, both in and around the creggan area in the west of the city. a controlled exposure has been carried out in one of the vehicles and army bomb experts and police are also dealing with the other van. a number of residents have been evacuated from their homes nearby. local politicians again blaming dissident republicans opposed to the peace process. on saturday night a car bomb exploded outside the
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courthouse in derry. it was a crude device and nobody was injured and was no damage caused to surrounding buildings but nonetheless it is reawakened memories are very bad days. derry suffered a lot during the troubles, the their 30 year conflict. the still remain paramilitary groups on the republican and loyalist sides and this paramilitary group is one of the police have been concerned about for a number of years. the police have been concerned about fora number of years. it the police have been concerned about for a number of years. it is. they are the most heavily armed of the dissident republican parliamentary groups and the most active and largest in terms of numbers. that said, they have minimal support in the community which we have seen the condemnation from across the political spectrum including sinn fein. theresa may and the irish by minister also adding their voices to the condemnation. there have been messed the there have been men in
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masks hijacking vehicles in londonderry this afternoon. there is no real fear at the londonderry this afternoon. there is no realfear at the moment londonderry this afternoon. there is no real fear at the moment this will translate into another sustained campaign. the thinking of the security forces is the capability of these dissident republican groups at these dissident republican groups at the moment are that they are not capable of carrying out a long campaign similarto that capable of carrying out a long campaign similar to that carried out by the provisional ira during the troubles but they are dangerous and the threat remains severe and will be concern about the nature of these attacks. a teenager has appeared in court charged with the murder of a 14—year—old boy in east london. jaden moodie was stabbed to death earlier this month after being knocked off his moped. daniela relph reports. jaden moodie was killed in east london on the 8th of january. he was 1a years old. london on the 8th of january. he was knocked off his moped by a car
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and then stabbed several times on bickley road in leyton. today, 18—year—old ayoub majdouline appeared in court charged with his murder. wearing a prison issued grey tracksuit, he also faced wearing a prison issue grey tracksuit, he also faced a second charge of possessing a bladed weapon in a public place. ayoub majdouline answered a number of basic questions in court. he confirmed his name and his date of birth as august 2000. he gave his address in wembley in north london and he was finally asked for his nationality. he told the court he was british. although one person has now been charged, the police say this remains an active investigation and detectives have renewed their appeal for witnesses to the murder ofjaden moodie. ayoub majdouline has been remanded in custody. he is due to appear in court again on wednesday, but this time at the old bailey. daniela relph, bbc news, thames magistrates' court. a baby boy who was critically injured when a car hit his pram in penge in south london has died. his mother, 23—year—old nicole
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newman, who was pushing the pram at the time of the crash, died at the scene. eight—month—old luciano died yesterday, a week after the collision. scotland yard said the driver of the car, who stopped at the scene, is co—operating with police. victims of domestic abuse are to receive a wide range of new protections, under government plans for what it calls "landmark" new legislation. it says penalties for perpetrators will be increased, and also that — for the first time — abusers will be prevented from cross—examining their victims in family courts. frankie mccamley reports. sarah, not her real name, survived years of domestic abuse. he would control the finances, so comment on what i spent, how much i spent, ask me why i spent something, so i'd just stop. if i was going out with my friends, he'd comment on the outfit — it was too short, i looked too fat. but when she had to fight to keep the child she had with him, she had to face her abuser
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in family court, where he was allowed to cross—examine her. it re—traumatises you. you believe them more than yourself, because they're allowed to tell you how to think, and he was allowed to tell me how to think for three years. so, by allowing him to cross—examine me in court for three hours, it took me back to a place i thought i'd have got away from. the cross—examination by a perpetrator is just one practice the government wants to abolish as it launches its draft domestic abuse bill. the proposed legislation would include a new definition of domestic abuse — focusing on economic abuse, which includes stopping someone from going to work or getting an education — a domestic commissioner, and domestic abuse protection orders that could force offenders into rehabilitation. polygraph tests are going to be piloted on hundreds of convicted who are at high risk of reoffending. they'll be asked questions to make sure they haven't broken their parole conditions. if they fail, it doesn't mean to say they're going back to prison, but what it does mean
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is their case could be reviewed. but with no new money backing the proposals, some charities are only cautiously welcoming the bill. what we'd really like to see is embedded specialist domestic abuse workers in the nhs, better co—ordination between the court systems, so that they're speaking to each other and understanding the risk to various family members. we'd like to see really great training around relationships and sex education, and we want to see a cross—government strategy on perpetrators of abuse which goes even further than what we've heard today. and as government experts estimate domestic abuse costs society in england and wales £66 billion in a year, some campaigners describe the amount being spent tackling the issue as a drop in the ocean. frankie mccamley, bbc news. time for a look at the weather. here's susan powell with the forecast. it is cold. no surprises there. it
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is staying cold but overnight tonight we do have a complication which is a weather front running across the uk and the upshot of that is basically we will have quite a lot of rain overnight and is the skies clear by the weather front it will get much colder and ice could bea will get much colder and ice could be a big dealforfirst will get much colder and ice could be a big deal for first thing tomorrow. this even quite squally winds of this front goes across england and wales. this is white across scotland and on the manhunt with a spell of snow and when trish showers. —— across scotland and northern ireland. ice could be an issue anywhere. lows around —3 “11 in the coldest spots. tomorrow morning rain, sleet and snow. not much settling there. a lot of sunshine through the day as a whole aplenty wintry showers first thing for scotla nd wintry showers first thing for scotland and northern ireland and stretching into northern england and ending the day across central and
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eastern parts. covering possible just about anywhere where we get the heavy showers. even we get the sunshine wintry day with temperatures of the lower end of single figures. you're watching bbc news. a top stories: theresa may has returned to the commons to spell out how she hopes to break the parliament to deadlock over brexit. including a promise of further talks on the irish backstop. i will be talking credit this week to colleagues including in the dup to colleagues including in the dup to consider how we might meet our obligations to the people of northern ireland and ireland in a way that can command the greatest possible support in the house. the labour leader has accused her of being in deep denial and said her deal was a deliverable. what makes her think that what she tried to renegotiate in september will succeed in january? tried to renegotiate in september will succeed injanuary? mr tried to renegotiate in september will succeed in january? mr speaker, this redoes the bit like groundhog day. the prime minister also announced
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the £65 fee eu nationals will have to pay for the right to stay in britain after brexit has been scrapped. a controlled explosion has been carried out in londonderry after a royal mail van was hijacked at gunpoint, just two days after a bomb attack in the city. from the world of sport has the details. djokovic marches on in novak djokovic marches on in into - quarterfinals at melbourne into the quarterfinals at the austrian open. the world number—1 reinforcing his staters is one of the favourites. he was up against his opponent and took it in form. the world number one is hoping to become the first man to win seven australian open title.
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serena williams is also into the quarterfinals but it was not a straightforward match against the world number one. serena williams on it in three sets, keeping alive her hopes of matching her record of 2a grand slam singles titles. she was quick to commend her opponent. she was literally lifting her game toa she was literally lifting her game to a new level and i didn't. i stayed at the same level and i should have lifted my game as well. but it is a part of this journey on my way back. if she wins her quarterfinal match, she will be in line for the semifinals. jamie murray has entered into a war of words with dan evans, saying he has made a hash of his career.
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eva ns, has made a hash of his career. evans, who served time out for a drugs ban said he saw no sense in celebrating people who didn't have the attitude to make it in the singles game. merry, who is into the quarterfinals in melbourne had earlier accused him of not promoting the success of doubles. i think it isjust dumb really the success of doubles. i think it is just dumb really the question the reason that we're on the doubles tour is because we don't work as hard as the single skies, it is just nonsense. to come from someone who really hasn't applied himself as much as he shared and really, he has made a hash of his career with his decision—making. to come out with those sort of comments is just ignorant. he leaves the same coaching role at huddersfield was my previous manager replied. he left huddersfield by
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mutual consent last week. the club are bottom of the premier league, ten points adrift of 17th place newcastle. we're expecting a major protest at bolton tonight ahead of their game against west bromwich albion. fans are unhappy at the way the club is being run. bolton have struggled with financial problems this season and they are second from bottom in the championship. ireland have suffered too much injury blues ahead of the start of this year ‘s tournament. iain henderson will be out for several weeks after he injured a finger in ulster‘s win over leicester at the weekend and earlier today, ireland confirmed another forward will also miss the ; two m weeks with a miss the first two m weeks with a knee injury. england cricketers are preparing for the first test against west indies which starts on wednesday. selectors will have half an eye on the big bash in australia. will is ve half an eye on the big
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will isjust lf an eye on the big will isjust lf an i it: on the big will isjust lf an i it for the big will isjust lf an i it for now. |ig will is just lf an i it for now. derby have signed former england county have signed former england back ashley cole on a deal left back ashley cole on a deal the end of the season. the until the end of the season. the 38—year—old is reunited with his former chelsea and international team—mate, frank lampard. there is more on the website. sportsday is here at 6:30. back to ben at westminster. welcome back to westminster where theresa may has been on her feet in the commons for most of the afternoon, briefing mps on her plan to try and build more support for her brexit deal in the house of commons. the deal, rejected resoundingly last week. time running out until we are due to leave the european union on march 29. we have been looking at what kind of brexit we could end up with. the prime minister's main aim is
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still to make changes to the irish backstop. that is the plan to make sure the land border between ireland and northern ireland remains as open as it is now. unless and until a future trade agreement means the backstop is no longer needed. most tory brexit ears and the dup hate the backstop. neither wanted we need reviewed. the eu has shown no sign agreeing to any of that. it says it doesn't want to have to use the backstop and it would only ever be temporary but its status in law is non—negotiable. if there is no change to the backstop, many would prefer change to the backstop, many would p refer to change to the backstop, many would prefer to leave the eu with no deal at all. that would mean most of the laws that govern our relationship with the rest of the eu would suddenly ceased to exist. in the short—term at least, it would cause significant disruption. it is clear
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from recent book is that the majority of mps in the house of commons are determined to prevent that happening. but is that enough? we have to decide about what to do on the 29th of march because at the moment, that says we will be exiting the eu on the 29th of march unless parliament or the government does something to change that. so what are the possible alternatives? most of them have to do with the future relationships with the eu after brexit rather than the detail of the withdrawal agreement itself. backed by labour would be for the youth k to enter a permanent customs agreement with the eu which means no ta riffs agreement with the eu which means no tariffs on goods moving between eu and uk. it would go some way towards solving problems on the irish border but in terms of the prime minister's red lines, it would also mean the uk would not be able to do its own comprehensive, independent trade deals around the world. a lot of trade policy would still be done at eu level. the other main economic
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mission ship, that the uk has with the eu is the single market. staying in that would mean that all the rules and regulations that govern the uk economy would be the same as the uk economy would be the same as the eu's. that would make things easierfor the eu's. that would make things easier for businesses that deal with europe but again, a red line issue the prime minister, freedom of movement would continue. the trouble with all of these ideas at the moment is that there does not seem to bea moment is that there does not seem to be a majority in the house of commons for any single option. that is why a growing number of mps argue that we will have two extend article 50 gosh it in period. it runs out on arch 29th but that would be one way to find a sensible solution. some of them would like to use that time to hold an election or at least another referendum. 0thers, hold an election or at least another referendum. others, to finalise a deal they can be agreed next few weeks. extending article 50 means the agreement of all other eu countries and it requires a change
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in both eu and uk law. the rest of the eu will need to have a viable plan emerging from all the current disagreements. with me now hear live in westminster is former director of legislative affairs at downing street. thank you grey much further being with us. what did you make of what the prime minister had to say this afternoon? a lot of people say it doesn't amount to anything new? for me, you look for the nuance and overall i think something is identified where they are looking to convince mps on smaller issues so things that i draw out is the promise of working with select committee chairs, confidential meetings. the involvement of the devolved administration to try and form that consensus. with that be helpful or then you also have on top of that, removing of the fees are citizens.
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again removing some of those little things that might be singing mps. the little things as you say and she lost the vote last week by 230 boats so what happens next in terms of her dying to get this through the commons? procedurally, what we now haveis commons? procedurally, what we now have is next on monday, we have the boat that is required once a deal has been rejected. that is a vote on a motion that will be on neutral terms. in that statement, as the pm made today, it will set out all the things she is arguing for and if you get a yes vote for that, that will be the house in sourcing it. that would then mean it should secure that, she will have to come back so we could be doing this for some weeks to come. as you know, parliament is trying to assert themselves, various attempts at amendments that would run out a new dual brexit, extend article 50 and
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so on. how likely do you think they are to be successful? it is very difficult tojudge. when are to be successful? it is very difficult to judge. when we see successful, is whether they are successful, is whether they are successful in getting the vote or achieving the end objective and we have two distinguished between the two. what we have seen before is that agreements are often very successful, people think of them are something they might want to back and see the government defeated but in terms of whether they can achieve their objective, there is a lot of debate around. to achieve it, you have the terrible lot of the rules and that may stay people's hand. that is the key issue in all of this, constitutionally, isn't it? it is about pa rliament‘s this, constitutionally, isn't it? it is about parliament's assertion of some authority, some control in terms of putting motions, legislative motions of the government and that is changing the balance if you like between parliament and government. yes, and
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you have two campus almost. there are camps and i freely admit, i'm a product of the whips office at number ten so i favour the traditional constitutional balance. i favour a strong executive, traditional constitutional balance. ifavour a strong executive, and think is stability in the legislature is there to scrutinise, the state no but in itself but the proposed policy of the government to oppose that. there are other that they, we want this new way of doing things and we're quite rolling to do it on the hoof. i am not a good person to advocate for that but there are two campus. how worried you think people in downing street would be about parliament strengthening its hand and maybe rolling out a no—deal brexit, maybe extending article 50? rolling out a no—deal brexit, maybe extending article 50 ?” rolling out a no—deal brexit, maybe extending article 50? i cannot judge, i have not had conversations with them about that. i think the concerns would be twofold. 0ne with them about that. i think the concerns would be twofold. one in terms of how it affects brexit policy and the second one, how it affects the strength of the
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government, its longevity, because the more powers that go away, the harder it becomes long—term to continue. it is very difficult to get that balance back. effectively it would be taking some power from the prime ministerfrom downing street and the government? yes and once you establish a new mechanism works, what is to stop this happening again? that is where you get into this issue of what pathway are we on. thank you so much for being with us. the commons debate is still going on. a little earlier, we heard from yvette cooper who called on the prime minister to give parliament a say. the prime minister seems to be talking as if she lost by 30 boats, not 230 votes. now she once to give parliament say on the political declaration and the future partnership am about to be honest, we have heard all of this before. she serious, why not give parliament asa before we finish the article 50
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negotiations, not after. why not put the parliament some votes on her red lines, including a customs union? 0therwise, how can any of us believe a worker she says? but was yvette cooper, we also heard from the conservative, john redwood, who also had a suggestion for the prime minister on how to break the current logjam. a majority of the referendum voters voted to leave and did not vote to signa voted to leave and did not vote to sign a new comprehensive treaty binding is back into thejurors sign a new comprehensive treaty binding is back into the jurors with the eu but i think a big majority in the eu but i think a big majority in the country would welcome comprehensive free—trade agreement and the use of article 24. will my right honourable friend, when she goes back to brussels, table such a combo pens of free—trade agreement and see if that break the logjam with mike lets just show you the scene behind us outside parliament
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where demonstrators, as ever, or waving their flags. pro—and anti—brexit protesters there it is relatively quiet today but it is relatively quiet today compared to previous days we have but it is relatively quiet today corr herei to previous days we have at parliament, i have to had here at parliament, i have to say. £sz discuss . had here at parliament, i have to say. £sz discuss today's events say. that discuss today's events with deputy political editor from the times newspaper and the guardian's political correspondent. guardian‘s political correspondent ta ke goarciian‘a political correspondent? take on the prime your take on the prime minister's statement some we re were going to get a plan b they were going to get a plan b after her defeat last week. was it a plan b orjust another plan a? you are right, the plan b is planning a all over again. the prime minister set out what you told the cabinet last night that she was going to do. her primary plan seems to be to try and get some kind of mandate from the commons a week on tuesday for some kind of change to the backstop. she once the dup to contemplate
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voting for amendments that show brussels that if they make the changes she asks for, she could get the bill through back home. it is a high stakes strategy because it relies on the free bets, firstly that the dup will buckle, that the ha rd that the dup will buckle, that the hard brexit ears will bend and thirdly, that brussels will bend, so three big things that need to change in herfavour and three big things that need to change in her favour and if three big things that need to change in herfavour and if not, parliament is going to insert an insurance policy underneath the amendments which moved towards an attempt to extend article 50. that is the big choice for parliaments next week. they did not learn a lot more about what theresa may once, when do we ever? she is now going to put together some kind of coalition so she can send brussels a message. together some kind of coalition so she can send brussels a messagem that how you see it, that she is not really pivoting towards a soft brexit to try and attract labour mps, she is going through the dup, going for the brexit here when of the tory party? absolutely and i
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think anyone who has seen theresa may and knows her personality could have guessed that is the way she is going. she is always going to want to bring her own tribe back on board rather than reach across the commons to the labour party. many around her don't believe that you can trust the opposition to properly up. it is not just about is about but other legislation that you would need to leave in an orderly ways i don't think she leaves she could depend on opposition verbs. in a way, because we have this about next monday, there will be a lot of parliamentary jockeying about the movement on that. theresa may has a little bit of time to think and consult with people and have conversations with brussels to find out what it is they could back. what could the eu give her night that they had not given her night that they had not given her already that would help bring the dup and others on board and even if they get that, with the marks bbn enough for her? she lost by 230
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beds? beheaded yesterday from the irish, the starting vote is nil. they are not willing to reopen the withdrawal agreement. they say they are not going to provide any meaningful change to the thing that was signed in november and has already gone to a catastrophic defeat in the commons. the worst we have seen. if plan b is plan a, we're not playing me they said that once again today. there are some people in brussels saying that maybe the pressure of a new deal on national capitals as opposed to the commission might turn a few heads in maybe some parts of europe but they are quitea maybe some parts of europe but they are quite a dogwood and if you look at what really happened in december, and outline of the help you might see. back in december, written nearly got is known as a legal codicil, a legal memorandum that wouldn't be absolutely binding in law but it mightjust be sure some people that the backstop in northern ireland might be temporary other
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than a permanent, that is one of the things that they are looking at but the problem for theresa may is that evenif the problem for theresa may is that even if she source just the issue of the backstop, there are many other concerns with her withdrawal agreement and future relationship plan that leaves them unsatisfied and whether or not she can get down the numbers, 118 tory mps who voted against the last week, whether she can get that number down to 30 or 40, even still it is difficult even with help from brussels. do you think she is still running down the clock, still hoping that somehow she can whittle that number down and at some stage when that vote in the commons? i think she certainly is letting the clock ticked down, i don't think we will get a meaningful vote until mid february which leaves as little time but i'm not sure if this is the thing that will speak those who need to come and vote for her. there are material things that might persuade the group to come over. some of them just want a date,
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others want the whole withdrawal agreement. there are degrees of extreme response that they want. the clock is her friend in a way. i don't think that will be the thing to push these hardliners over the line. what about these other mps like yvette cooper, to roll out now brexit and extend article 50 and so on and really to assert parliament's power over the government? we were just talking to a lady who used to work in downing street, how worried will theresa may be and all of that? i think the big question is no commons and around westminster this week is how far do those attempts to change the rules to free up a bit of time to discuss non—government business, how realistic is the prospect of those getting in? at the
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moment, the labour party is looking seriously at whether it might bike it and if they do, some of the amendments, won by yvette cooper, does have a realistic chance of getting through. you heard in the commons earlier, theresa may does not like this, she says there is no such thing as extending article 50. she is worried that as the time, there are ministers who are putting enormous pressure on the government to give them a free vote on this issue. amber budd has been the number ten and has told senior figures there that unless they give agreement on the amendment next week, maybe the team for 20 members of the government may resign. that is the kind of pressure theresa may is the kind of pressure theresa may is facing. she is caught between those who don't want to move, the dup have made this a constitutional area and now ramirez who are threatening to voted against. that isa threatening to voted against. that is a tough position for her to be
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in. thank you both very much for being with us. that's about it from ame being with us. that's about it from a me from westminster. theresa may addressing mps, trying to break that brexit deadlock. but now to clyde with other news from the studio. well, if you were up early enough this morning you may have been lucky enough to see a stunning red moon like this. it's a lunar eclipse, called the ‘super blood wolf moon,‘ and was visible across the uk, in places that weren't covered by cloud. the unusual event happens when the earth passes precisely between the sun and the moon. pallab ghosh reports. eerie and beautiful. it's happened for billions of years, yet each time, there's a sense of awe and wonder when the moon turns blood red. across the uk, stargazers gathered to witness one of nature's greatest spectacles.
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at first i was really sceptical. i thought i can't see any red, you know. and then it got sort of redder and redder and i was kind of convinced it was red. so really don't want to stop looking, really. just keep having another glance at it. it was enjoyed by crowds in los angeles. this year, amateur astronomers were in for a special treat. the moon was at its closest point to earth, a so—called super moon. we have a super moon because it's full and it's close to the earth. it is a wolf moon because it's the january full moon. and it's a blood moon because it's a total eclipse, so we have a super wolf blood moon eclipse according to some folks. so why does the moon turn such a strange colour? well, it happens when the earth gets directly between the moon and the sun. that blocks out most of the light, but a little bit still gets through, through the outer edges of our atmosphere, so what we see on the ground as sunset and sunrise is projected onto the moon. and the effect is incredible.
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unfortunately, there was heavy cloud during the crucial hours, spoiling the view for people in scotland, northern ireland and wales. and there was early morning fog in many parts of the country, but for the rest, the view was spectacular. this from south wales. here's one from eastbourne. and the blood moon through the trees from normington in west yorkshire. the interesting thing about astronomy is that it is a science everyone can be involved with and that's why it has such a huge appeal. you don't need very much to go out and look at a lunar eclipse. and i think it's also fair to say this is something that unites us across the whole history and prehistory of humanity. it's very easy to imagine that if you've got enough to eat, if you've got adequate shelter, if you're otherwise safe, you can take a little bit of time to look up at the night sky. and something like a lunar eclipse must have given you pause for thought. a beautiful event that won't be seen so well in the uk until 2023. some cloud obscuring the view of
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that super moon or whatever it was! the weather is next. it is staying chilly. the snowdrops poking their heads up at this time of year but will it be covered in snow in the next couple of days? in may will do. it is cold and are staying cold but we have the convocation overnight tonight. there isa convocation overnight tonight. there is a weather front moving in and thatis is a weather front moving in and that is what has been feeding in more cloud through the day today. it will mean for some through this evening, a spell of snow. scotland and northern ireland and further south because it went and wales is likely to be rain. we could see some snow across the pennines and the mountains of wales. a rough spell of
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mountains of wales. a rough spellmi along with the front then of have web then of have web then and have down is perfect for some widespread that ls. perfect forsome widespread. of ice first stretches of ice first thing tomorrow on untreated surfaces so remember that. it will be a cold start once again. temperatures in towns and cities, minus two or minus three. tuesday will be towns and cities, minus two or minus three. - by uesday will be towns and cities, minus two or minus three. - by cold ay will be towns and cities, minus two or minus three. - by cold airwill be day dominated by cold air originating from the north—west and feeding in at times, some generous amounts of showers. looking quite wintry for much of scotland and northern ireland first thing on tuesday. we will see more in the way obsolete at lower levels but when they turned heavier, they produce some snow. a difficult set up a potentially for the evening rush
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hour with those showers moving through. even with sunshine, another cold day. a cold night will follow and guess what? and other cold day. it stays cold basically and to the end of the week and friday gives us a blip, a return to average temperatures with some milder weather but only very short term as it will turn colder again for the weekend. here is wednesday, a beautiful looking day. there will be lots of sunshine. a few more wintry showers in the north—west, maybe a few across eastern england but it will be cold with temperatures down at the lower end of single figures. but thursday, again, a chilly start. perhaps more cloud coming into the west and just the signs of something that'll milder. friday, a return to average temperatures but as promised, only briefly because it looks like once this area of cloud and rain sweeps away that the weekend, we'll be back shivering in our shirts. the prime minister promises mps
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a more open and flexible approach to her brexit deal but the labour leader says nothing's changed. after her crushing defeat last week, theresa may refused to rule out a no—deal brexit. she said there'd be no new referendum but she would seek changes to the irish backstop. my focus continues to be on what is needed to secure the support of this house in favour of a brexit deal with the eu. what makes her think that what she tried to renegotiate in december will succeed in january? mr speaker, this really does feel a bit like groundhog day. and then, a surprise u—turn on fees for eu nationals wanting to stay here — on the day the scheme's launched, mrs may says there'll be no charge after all. we'll be asking why.
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